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Transcripts For BBCNEWS Breakfast 20240709



english football needs an independent regulator to stop it "lurching from crisis to crisis". that's according to a fan—led review into the sport. another fantastic night for english clubs in the champions league. victories for manchester city and liverpool as both win their groups, and city's sterling outshines messi and co. and the fab four as they once were. a new documentary featuring hours of unseen footage of the beatles is released roday. we'll hear from the director peterjackson. will the christmas party get started this year? bookings are back up after a tough 18 months for the hospitality industry. but many firms are warning that a shortage of staff means they cannot operate at full capacity. for many of us today it is going to be dry, sunny and cold, breezy if not windy. some showers in the forecast. when to be in the north but then as we head towards the end of the week, potential for some disruptive weather. i will have all of the details later. it's thursday the 25th of november. the prime minister and president macron of france have agreed to step up joint efforts to prevent illegal crossings of the channel after at least 27 people drowned when their boat off the coast of northern france. four suspected traffickers have been arrested on suspicion of being linked to the sinking. jon donnison has the latest. along the northern french coast, the search for the missing went on after dark. but with temperatures in single digits, the chance of finding anyone alive increasingly remote. at least 27 bodies have been recovered. the biggest loss of life in the channel since it became the preferred route of people traffickers. translation: the first people responsible for this despicable | situation other smugglers. that is to say, criminals who, for a few thousand euros, organise the trafficking of human beings from iraq, afghanistan, africa and asia. it's thought around 25 boats like this set off from the beaches of northern france yesterday. where are you going now? the uk. this one, we know, made it across the channel, but it's a treacherous journey, across one of the world's busiest shipping lanes. this disaster underscores how dangerous it is to cross the channel in this way. and it also shows how vital it is that we now step up our efforts to break the business model of the gangsters who are sending people to sea in this way. last night, the government's cobra emergency committee met, and the prime minister held an urgent phone call with the french president emmanuel macron. downing street said the two men agreed to step up joint efforts to prevent the crossings. any decisions made? evening. and to stop the gangs putting people's lives at risk. but people the bbc spoke to at this calais migrant camp last night said they would keep trying to reach the uk. uday said he attempted to cross earlier this week but gave up because the waves were too high. we need to create safe and legal routes for people to get here, through planned resettlement programmes and family reunion. and we also need to have a safe and fair asylum system here so that people, when they've made theirjourneys, can claim asylum and be fairly assessed. in calais last night, people demanding refugees be better treated held a vigil for those who died. after a year of record numbers crossing the channel, people on all sides of the argument have warned this was a tragedy waiting to happen. jon donnison, bbc news. our correspondent simonjones is in dover. good morning. it has been a very harrowing 2a hours. we know the politicians are talking, tell us a little bit more about what we know about what is happening on the ground. it about what is happening on the round. ., about what is happening on the i round. ”i ,., ., , about what is happening on the iround. ”i ,., ., , , about what is happening on the round. ., , , ., , ground. it may potentially be a bit wind for ground. it may potentially be a bit windy for crossings _ ground. it may potentially be a bit windy for crossings today, - ground. it may potentially be a bit windy for crossings today, but - ground. it may potentially be a bit| windy for crossings today, but over the past few weeks, it's thought up to ten people have lost their lives out there in the channel before yesterday plasma tragedy. that did not stop hundreds of people attempting the crossing yesterday. we know that many people were brought to people brought to —— we know that many people were brought to —— dover by the border force, the french authorities rescued 106 people in the channel but 27 were sadly pronounced dead. initially it was thought the death toll was 31, that was revised downwards overnight. when these boats take to the water, they are confusing situations, we know that people were found in the law to. but extremely worrying for the —— in the water. extremely worrying for authorities on both sides of the channel, we don't know where these people are from or why it capsized. they have been reports in the french media that it was potentially hit by container ship but the french authorities have not commented, they just say the boat was extremely fragile. they have been initiatives to try to stop the crossings, upping patrols on beaches in northern france and turning boats back at sea but that has not had any success. boats have not been turned back. so the authorities have a real challenge to prevent further tragedies as we head into winter. our political correspondent damian grammaticas is in westminster. as you are hearing from simon, so many initiatives have been put into place to try to prevent these crossings were taking place and now we hear borisjohnson chaired a meeting of the cobra committee last night, we understand crisis talks will be happening in france amongst ministers there, what next? i will be happening in france amongst ministers there, what next?- ministers there, what next? i think we will see — ministers there, what next? i think we will see a _ ministers there, what next? i think we will see a renewed _ ministers there, what next? i think we will see a renewed joint - ministers there, what next? i think we will see a renewed joint effort l we will see a renewed joint effort between the uk and france to try to come up with ways to deal with this. that will follow on from the lead given from that conversation between the prime minister and president macron in france yesterday, where they talked about stepping up joint work. the difficulty here is the uk side has been wanting to havejoint patrols, uk involvement on french beaches, joint patrols of boats in the channel, and that has not been acceptable to the french side. so short of that, what then is the action the uk can take? we see that there is, the home secretary has the nationalities and borders bill which is going through parliament, that will make it tougher for people trying to come through this route, to try to deter them. it will include measures such as a two tier system. so if you arrive on a boat across the channel, you'll get a lower status, you will have less records or no recourse to public funds to, less time in the uk, 30 months in the uk is what might be given. underthat months in the uk is what might be given. under that process. months in the uk is what might be given. underthat process. so months in the uk is what might be given. under that process. so the idea to try to make it less attractive. but we have had the home secretary and others talk for a long time about making this route not viable, and the difficulty there is, as you had, in that report, people still want to come despite those measures. and the most difficult thing, really, is removing people once they do come. the uk does not have, since brexit, agreements with eu countries to do that and send her back once they have crossed the channel. ., , ., , ., , channel. lots to explore -- send them back- _ channel. lots to explore -- send them back. lots _ channel. lots to explore -- send them back. lots to _ channel. lots to explore -- send them back. lots to explore - channel. lots to explore -- sendj them back. lots to explore here, thank you. english football needs an independent regulator to stop it "lurching from crisis to crisis". that's according to the chair of a fan—led review. former sports minister tracey crouch carried out the review after six premier league clubs caused a widespread outcry when they tried to form a breakaway european super league earlier this year. 0ur sports news editor dan roan has more. it's the most popular sport in the country, but with clubs going bust, and after the threat of a breakaway, scrutiny on football has intensified. the woman tasked with the landmark review of the english game told me it was time for a radical reform. we've seen football lurch from crisis to crisis over the last decade or so. and unfortunately, we haven't necessarily had the right levels of regulation in place to stop that crisis from happening. i think we've reached a point where people are saying, no more. crucially, crouch wants a powerful independent football regulator that would have stopped the attempt by the premier league's big six earlier this year tojoin the european super league. 0verseeing financial regulation, it could even block spending by owners deemed to be irresponsible. the regulator would enforce a beefed up owners' and directors' test for new buyers. 0ther proposals include a transfer levy to get more money from the premier league to the rest of the game, reform of parachute payments to relegated clubs, and fan empowerment through shadow boards and a so—called golden share. that would mean support a consent needed over key decisions, that would mean supporter consent needed over key decisions, such as a change of club name or stadium relocation, unlike in the past when wimbledon was infamously moved to milton keynes. and this season, a championship club that twice won the first division title in the 70s also fell into administration. derby county, for many, is sadly emblematic of a broken and unsustainable club system. one that encourages too many to overspend in the pursuit of promotion, and which shows why radical change is now needed the way that clubs are both financed and run. criticised for allowing the controversial recent saudi takeover of newcastle united, the premier league said the reforms mustn't damage the game. but with the government likely to support crouch, football seems set for momentous change. dan roan, bbc news. a jury in the us has found three white men guilty of murdering a black man as he jogged in the city of brunswick, georgia, last year. they claimed they were defending themselves while trying to perform a citizens' arrest on ahmaud arbery who they said "looked like a burglar". his death, along with that of george floyd in minneapolis, helped to inspire the black lives matter movement. 0ur north america correspondent aleem maqbool sent this report from georgia. 0433. there have been times when this moment seemed very different distant prospect. we the jury, find the defendant, travis mcmichael, guilty. whoo! the shout of relief came from the father of ahmaud arbery, who was shot dead in february of last year. two others were also found guilty of murder. they had all seen 25—year—old ahmaud running through the neighbourhood. and claimed he fitted the description of a crime suspect. they chased him and killed him. during the trial, the man who had fired the fatal shots, travis mcmichael, was the only one of the three to take to the witness stand. ishot him. why? he had my gun. he struck me, it looked obvious that he was a... it was obvious that he was attacking me, that if he would have got the shot gun from me, then it was a life or death situation. his justification was that he killed in self—defence. but of course, that was only after he, his father and a neighbour had chased ahmaud arbery in their pick—up trucks for five minutes. ahmaud's family waited more than ten weeks and had to rely on public pressure for the police to even make any arrests. i never thought this day would come. but god is good. yes, he is. and i just want to tell everybody, thank you, thank you for those who marched, those who prayed, most of all, the ones who prayed. yes. lord. — thank you, god, thank you. well, there may still be questions about the way the police behaved after this killing, questions about the underlying issues surrounding race in this society, that contributed to the killing. but for now, at least, all of those that for months have been calling forjustice for ahmaud arbery, there isjust a huge sense of relief. aleem maqbool, bbc news, brunswick, georgia. plans to modernise the british army will be outlined by the defence secretary ben wallace today, adding to the integrated defence review earlier this year. he'll announce an extra 500 troops on top of the 72,500 previously set out. this is still less than the current target of 82,000. the army says the announcement will lead to sweeping changes to the way it's organised and how it operates. a man will appear in court today charged with the murders of a couple who were attacked in their home while their young children slept upstairs. stephen and jennifer chapple suffered fatal stab wounds on sunday evening. colin reeves, who's 33, is due before magistrates in taunton. the government has set aside nearly £1.7 billion to allow the energy firm bulb to continue supplying customers. the company went into special administration yesterday which means it can continue trading until a buyer is found. bulb is the latest of 22 energy firms to fail since september following a spike in wholesale gas prices. let's take a look at some of today's front pages. they all lead on yesterday's tragedy in the channel. the daily telegraph quotes the prime minister saying france must "step up" and stop migrant crossings. the paper pictures two of the 255 people reported to have successfully made the journey to england yesterday. it's a "human tragedy" says the daily mirror's headline. the paper pictures children sitting in a dinghy that it says was launched "under the noses" of french police. no reason to believe that was the actual craft that sank. borisjohnson�*s comments also lead the daily mail. the picture shows a french police car appearing to stand idle behind a group of people placing a dinghy into the sea. according to the guardian, the french interior minister said the boat that sank had been "very frail" and compared it to an inflatable paddling pool. it is 16 minutes past six. now the weather with carol. certainly getting colder. and from that picture, windy of as well? absolutely, there is the potential of damaging weather this weekend, because of the strength of the wind and also some sleet and snow. not everyone will see it, an area of low pressure is coming our way, and what you get is dependent on the track of the low pressure. it is going to be cold. a cold start, some frost across cumbria, temperatures in some parts below freezing, and wintry showers dragged in on a northerly wind across the north of scotland. it will continue through the day, most of that on the hills. strong winds down the north sea coastline and the irish sea. 0n the far north of scotland, dragging in showers, most of which will be rain but we could see some wintriness on the north york moors. top temperatures fourin north york moors. top temperatures four in lerwick and nine in cardiff. clouds thickening by the end of the afternoon bringing rain to the north—west. through the evening and overnight, the rain will slip further south, and the wind is going to strengthen across parts of scotland and northern ireland, and the irish sea, gusting as much as 60 miles an hour. clearer skies in the far south—east, miles an hour. clearer skies in the farsouth—east, here miles an hour. clearer skies in the far south—east, here you could see a touch of frost and it will be another cold night. tomorrow the rain quickly pushes south, clearing at lunchtime. scattered showers behind, wintry on the hills. some of the wintriness in scotland could get down to lower levels. again windy across scotland, northern ireland and the of england, the met office has a yellow weather warning ad for this, but will get more windy and more unsettled friday night to saturday. thank you, see you later. we want to tell you now about a man called tony hickmott. he's 43 and he's been detained for the last 20 years, 100 miles from home. tony hasn't committed a crime. he has autism and he's held in a specialist hospital while his parents are desperately fighting to get him housed in their local community. sadly, tony's case is not unique. around 100 people in england have been held in specialist hospitals for at least two decades, as jayne mccubbin reports. 0njune 29 2001, time stood still for pam and roy. nine months, be away for nine months until they found him a suitable place in the brighton area, that's what we were told. but it was far from the truth. he's lived there longer now than he lived at home. you can't take that trauma away. june 29 was the day their son was detained in a specialist hospital. he is still there, 100 miles from home, two decades on. pam would say to him, "you're coming home soon, tone. in the summer, when the yellow flowers around, in your garden, that's when you'll be coming home." he used to... his face was glee, he was really happy and everything. but over the years, we've been telling him, now we tell him, he doesn't take no notice. happy birthday to you. happy birthday, mummy. the bbc has had to go to court to try and tell you this story. his family have had to go to court to try and bring him back to brighton. i love you. i love you too, tone. one week runs into a month, a month runs into a year. then that year went, then another year went. he speaks to us on the telephone at night, he describes all the rooms in the house. he explains what colour wallpaper i've got up. that's long gone. furniture, his memory is, that's all he's got, is home. he talks about the neighbours. all them neighbours have gone. they've died. i mean, we've travel back sometimes, we pull in, we both sit down and cry. i mean, i've come home, i've got pam, she's got me. he's got nobody. tony is in an assessment and treatment unit. they are really designed for short—term stays in a crisis. the problem here isn't tony but the system. psychiatrists say he has been fit for discharge since 2013. but the process of trying to get him his own place to live, with the right support, back here in brighton, has been bogged down in delays and wrangles. so this month, the family went to the court of protection to try and break the deadlock. there, a judge said the delays are facing tony have been egregious. that the progress made to date has been glacial. the bbc successfully challenged a court order which had prevented reporting of this case. lifting the anonymity order, thejudge said she had no doubt tony's case was in the public interest and it was clear that a lack of resources had left him detained for so long. tony's care right now is funded by the nhs, but ongoing support in the community would have to be paid for by the council, who told us... they are working with the nhs and tony's family to find other options. the judge has told them to get on with it, right? we've only got this limited time. we're still not doing it, we're still fighting over money. can you believe you're at stage where you had to go to court? to get him out and actually, none of the authorities thinks he should be in there? no. that's the problem. everyone we speak to, they say, this isn't the right place for tony. he shouldn't be here. but he is there. we used to sit and he used to draw sometimes, this house. we used to say, they're building the roof at the moment. how long does it take to build a roof? he doesn't believe that he's coming home. because it's gone on so long? yeah, he doesn't believe it any more. that must break your heart. yeah. it's a decade since bbc cameras captured the neglect and abuse of people with learning disabilities in winterbourne view. this event prompted the government to set ambitious targets, to move people into real homes with appropriate support. but those targets have been repeatedly missed, and tony is one of 2070 people still detained, 100 of those people, like tony, detained for more than 20 years. it's just appalling. these people are not criminals. they haven't got sentences through the criminaljustice process. they are stuck in services, just as people used to be stuck in the long—stay institutions. ultimately, these settings should not exist, and ifeel strongly about it because we have so much testimony from people with learning disabilities, people with autism, and theirfamilies, about how harmful their experience is, and has been, when they are removed from all that is familiar. nhs england told us they are continuing to work to find the highly specialised support required. the judge has ordered authorities finally find a plan to bring him back to brighton by may next year. tony's wait continues. when we visited tone and we're leaving, he pushes his face right to the window and watches us till we disappear. i can't look back. what have they done to all of us, the family? they've destroyed us. oh, dear. jayne mccubbin, bbc news. we should say a big thank you to roy and pam who very bravely shared their story with us and we will follow it going into the future as well. the time is 6:24am. we're entering the christmas party season which was a write—off last year because of covid. ben's taking a look at how the hospitality industry is gearing up for this year. explain where you are and what is happening there. good morning, can you believe it's that time of year again? welcome to swingers in west london, this place normally would be packed but it is quite at this time of day. here, they are full of parties, groups of people, workgroups, work parties, to make the most of this. it is a crazy golf place, djs and cocktails, all sorts of things going on. and this time of year, as you said, really important. they make a third of their money, hospitality businesses, at this time of year, before it gets quiet again injanuary and february. particularly important this year because last year was pretty much a write—off because of covid so they are really counting on this year to deliver. what we know so far about the kings this year? figures suggest they are down 4% on pre—pandemic levels, that is good news. there is some impact, smaller group sizes, less planning, peoplejust decided to have a party at short notice rather than planning too much and being disappointed. so far so good, people are coming back but there is a huge problem for the hospitality industry, and that is a shortage of staff. there are not enough staff to man places like this. shortage of about 200,000 hospitality staff, everything from chefs and pot washers to waiters and barmen. that is a real problem for the industry meaning they cannot accept all of the bookings they want to. that is certainly true for simon's hotel in yorkshire. he has lots of big bookings but he is having to turn some away because he does not have the staff. ~ , ., ., ., , _ the staff. whilst we have had a busy summer and — the staff. whilst we have had a busy summer and it _ the staff. whilst we have had a busy summer and it has _ the staff. whilst we have had a busy summer and it has been _ the staff. whilst we have had a busy summer and it has been a _ the staff. whilst we have had a busy summer and it has been a great - summer and it has been a great season and demand has been very good, we are basically still playing catch up. we desperately need a good christmas. partly to catch up and partly to put a bit in the bank to get us through the first quarter safely. christmas demand is looking good, the christmas numbers and bookings are up on previous years, there is definitely an appetite and demand for the public to get out and enjoy this christmas. talking to colleagues in the industry, there is a nervousness about whether we will have enough staff for the busy nights, friday and saturday, but overall it is encouraging. the demand seems to be there and people seem to be looking forward to a really good christmas this year. that is the view from yorkshire. let's talk about those issues with kate nichols, the chief executive to of uk hospitality. we ran through some figures there. it depends what sort of business you are, arrestment, pub and bar, and where you are in the country, what are you hearing from your members? it is hearing from your members? it is variable hearing from your members? it 3 variable depending on where you are and what could have a business you run. we know across the uk and across all types of businesses, normally we would be 90% —— 95% pre—booked for the christmas business period, and we are running at 80% said bookings are down, turnover and footfall is down but when visitors are coming out, demand is strong and people are looking for experiences and trading up and going premium. fix. experiences and trading up and going remium. �* . ., experiences and trading up and going remium. �* _, . ., ., .,, premium. a welcome change to last ear, we premium. a welcome change to last year. we were _ premium. a welcome change to last year, we were talking _ premium. a welcome change to last year, we were talking about - premium. a welcome change to last year, we were talking about it - premium. a welcome change to last year, we were talking about it and l year, we were talking about it and how difficult it was for the industry which was all but closed 12 months ago. industry which was all but closed 12 months age-— industry which was all but closed 12 months ago-— industry which was all but closed 12 months ao. , , ., months ago. yes, people were in and out of restrictions, _ months ago. yes, people were in and out of restrictions, variations - out of restrictions, variations across the country, people could not travel and that knocked consumer confidence for even those businesses that were open. to be looking ahead to a valuable trading period and know that we can get some trading under our belt and look forward to the new year with confidence is credibly helpful for those businesses who have struggled for so long. businesses who have struggled for so lonu. �* . businesses who have struggled for so [on _ �* ., ., ~' businesses who have struggled for so lon. �* ., ., ~ ., long. and we have talked about smaller groups _ long. and we have talked about smaller groups and _ long. and we have talked about smaller groups and a _ long. and we have talked about smaller groups and a bit - long. and we have talked about smaller groups and a bit less i smaller groups and a bit less planning, people turning up on a whim, that is difficult for the industry? it whim, that is difficult for the indust ? , ., ., whim, that is difficult for the industry?— whim, that is difficult for the indust ? , ., , industry? it is hard to plan. this eriod is industry? it is hard to plan. this period is normally _ industry? it is hard to plan. this period is normally 95% - industry? it is hard to plan. this - period is normally 95% pre-booked, period is normally 95% pre—booked, we know that people will turn up and we know that people will turn up and we are still seeing high levels of cancellation. we are not seeing the large corporate parties and bookings where people would take out the whole of the venue. so smaller groups, departments or small businesses rather than a full companies, and the fact that you don't have those corporate bookings means that the big event spaces are struggling. the means that the big event spaces are stru~lin~. , means that the big event spaces are stru~lin-. , ., ., means that the big event spaces are stru~lin~. , ., ., ., , struggling. the staff shortage means that the industry _ struggling. the staff shortage means that the industry will _ struggling. the staff shortage means that the industry will have _ struggling. the staff shortage means that the industry will have to - struggling. the staff shortage means that the industry will have to turn - that the industry will have to turn away some good bookings? that that the industry will have to turn away some good bookings? that is the cruellest of ironies, _ away some good bookings? that is the cruellest of ironies, we _ away some good bookings? that is the cruellest of ironies, we are _ away some good bookings? that is the cruellest of ironies, we are open, - cruellest of ironies, we are open, restrictions are lifted and people are turning away bookings even at this stage and even with bookings down, simply because they do not have the staff to accommodate them. if interims —— event catering, hotel rooms, pubs, bars and reference, a quarter of the businesses are having to cut down hours because of labour shortages. to cut down hours because of labour shortaaes. . ~ to cut down hours because of labour shortaaes. ., ~ , ., , to cut down hours because of labour shortaaes. . ~ ,, , . shortages. thank you very much, we will talk to you _ shortages. thank you very much, we will talk to you later. _ shortages. thank you very much, we will talk to you later. a _ shortages. thank you very much, we will talk to you later. a bit _ shortages. thank you very much, we will talk to you later. a bit of- will talk to you later. a bit of pace, the kings are back up after a difficult year but as kate was —— bookings a backup but as kate was explaining, there are difficulties. thank you very much, see you later on. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, i'm sonja jessup. an officer from scotland yard's parliamentary and diplomatic protection command who'd been charged with rape has now been accused of sexually assaulting three more women. hertfordshire police has confirmed pc david carrick has been charged with an additional 13 sexual assault offences. he's due before westminster magistrates tomorrow. as londoners face a tube drivers' strike tomorrow, the mayor has called for further talks with the rmt union. the action's due to affect the central, jubilee, northern, piccadilly and victoria lines— as well as the relaunch of the night tube on saturday. the dispute is over rosters and night tube duties. 0ur message is the rmt, talk to us, come back round the table, tfl, all of them have accepted that the night tube needs to return and accepted that the rosters and the economy of the night tube, but also women safety. several self defence clubs have told the bbc they've seen a rise in the number of women taking up self defence classes, amidst continuing headlines about women's safety. one group in south east london says enquiries are up by 75%. i think ithinki i think i started to feel a bit more unsafejust i think i started to feel a bit more unsafe just walking around by myself, especially in winter, in the evening when it is getting dark, and just feeling i did not know what i would do if someone were to try to attack me. i bought a rape alarm, but i don't have any other idea what i would do in this situation i wanted to be a bit more empowered to take care of myself. wembley park will be lit up tonight with the return of the christmas lights trail �*winterfest�*. it's centrepiece is a 25 foot tree. the big switch on happens at 7 o clock tonight with free live performances. travel now. the metropolitan line has severe delays between moor park to chesham and watford — not enough trains running again. 0nto the weather now with elizabeth rizzini good morning. it's been a very cold week of weather so far across the capital and things are only set to turn chile are still as we head through the rest of it but there will be some sunshine around at times, notably today. it's another cold, frosty start to the morning for many of us especially towards northern home counties where we saw the cloud clear first. northern home counties where we saw the cloud clearfirst. further south in a claudia picture and it will clear southwards and a slightly milder start to the day but lots of sunshine emerging just about everywhere and a bit more cloud for the afternoon and in noticeable northerly wind so some will ? wind chill to factor into the temperatures and it will feel cold and highs of six or 7 c. as we head through the evening and overnight, watch out for a sharp frost developing for the first half of the night with temperatures dropping below freezing in a few spots but then there will be more cloud into friday morning itself and on friday we have an area of low pressure that will give a strong, gusty winds and some outbreaks of rain that will fall as rain and temperatures ever so slightly higher but not a great day of weather and plenty of added wind—chill but windier still as we go into saturday. watch out for some showers as it will be feeling cold and some of the showers could be wintry on the higher ground. more from me in half an hour, and you can check out our website too. hello this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. the first part of the long—awaited beatles documentary "get back" is released today. it's made by the lord of the rings director peterjackson who has given his only uk tv interview to the bbc. we've got a different "fab four" on the sofa before nine as westlife drop in for a chat about their new album. and we'll hear the story of the wartime pantomimes which featured two real princesses — elizabeth, now the queen, and her sister margaret. let's return to our main story now — and throughout this morning we'll be bringing you reaction to the terrible events in the channel yesterday. 27 people drowned while they were trying to enter the uk illegally, having set off from northern france in a small boat. we can speak now to jean—marc puissesseau who is head of the ports of calais and and boulogne. good morning to you and thank you so much for your time this morning. i know you are a very busy man. can i ask you first your reaction to what happened yesterday? you ask you first your reaction to what happened yesterday?— ask you first your reaction to what happened yesterday? you know, i am ersonall happened yesterday? you know, i am personally very. _ happened yesterday? you know, i am personally very. very _ happened yesterday? you know, i am personally very, very sad, _ happened yesterday? you know, i am personally very, very sad, but - personally very, very sad, but between us i can tell you that we thought it would happen one day, because these people they are taking such enormous risks to get to europe and to get to your country. when they leave their country it is because they are suffering their and they have only one idea and wish, to get to your country and they are ready to risk their lives, as they did yesterday. it is 20 years that we have had migrants coming to calais and we have only one wish, to get to your country. and it's really time that europe and the uk together, that we try to get together, that we try to get together and solve the problem. these people arriving in calais, 0k, 0k they get something to eat and we take care of their health and it is sanitary, but we don't get them anything else. i think it should be anything else. i think it should be a european enterprise to bring them to a special centre and they can be informed that it is not possible to get to england and to give them their rights and tell them what they have to do and also maybe if the english authorities in the centre in order to help them to select them and when i say select, to understand what they are wanting to do or what they are able to do and if they have family but it is possible that we know these people are crossing europe and they come to calais and thenit europe and they come to calais and then it is tough because there is then it is tough because there is the sea and it is very, very safe in the sea and it is very, very safe in the port and we are controlling a truck and it is very difficult and now through through the smugglers, these murderous smugglers, now they try to cross and i say they are murderers because yesterday, to let people cross in such a small boat with the weather, we know that everybody knows in the middle of us in the channel, it's more and more dangerous even if the wind is not blowing so strong. but there is the big danger and that happened yesterday. and i hope that europe and borisjohnson will discuss together. we cannot let the people arriving calais and say stop, its not possible. you are not allowed to get to great britain. we have to take care of them. can get to great britain. we have to take care of them.— get to great britain. we have to take care of them. can i ask you and i take care of them. can i ask you and i understand — take care of them. can i ask you and i understand you _ take care of them. can i ask you and i understand you have _ take care of them. can i ask you and i understand you have spoken - i understand you have spoken directly to some of those involved in the rescue yesterday, so what can you tell us about what they saw, the vessel that these people were using and what did they see? this vessel that these people were using and what did they see?— and what did they see? as far as i know, and what did they see? as far as i know. because — and what did they see? as far as i know, because it _ and what did they see? as far as i know, because it was _ and what did they see? as far as i know, because it was yesterday, l and what did they see? as far as i l know, because it was yesterday, we know, because it was yesterday, we know when it arrived, because one of our sailing ships, how do you say, went out and crossed, and i think there were boats from your country there were boats from your country there and the little boats, they would sink, because there was water getting in and ultimately they try to get the water out and they were of course more people than normal and the boat sank into their and i think about 50 people. and we hope they are still alive, yes. i tell you, they are ready to do everything to get your country. that is why we have to protect them and we have to organise when they are arriving in calais and not enough control has been done before in greece or spain or italy and we have to have an international organisation to take care of them. . international organisation to take care of them-— international organisation to take care of them. , can you explain to the audience _ care of them. , can you explain to the audience here, _ care of them. , can you explain to the audience here, you _ care of them. , can you explain to the audience here, you ahead - care of them. , can you explain to the audience here, you ahead of. care of them. , can you explain to i the audience here, you ahead of the ports in calais and boulogne and you see these people every day either being brought back, hopefully saved, but this is something that you see all the time. but this is something that you see all the time-— but this is something that you see all the time. , , , ., all the time. yes, we see every day, ou know all the time. yes, we see every day, you know you _ all the time. yes, we see every day, you know you are — all the time. yes, we see every day, you know you are controlling - all the time. yes, we see every day, you know you are controlling each i you know you are controlling each trucking calais and that is another problem because we don't get any support from anyone to do thatjob and i don't want to do further, and thatis and i don't want to do further, and that is one point but for us we are opening each truck and we discover migrants but now they are trying with a little boats and to survey all of the coast, it is enormous and when i am listening, it is a shame the french are not controlling and why don't the english forces help and they should not come and help them, it is enormous, the smugglers are so proficient now and they arrive and within ten or 15 minutes they are on the boat and they try to cross, and that is 100 kilometres of bushes and forested control. i can tell you there are a lot of controls but i think we have to, when the migrants arriving close to calais, i think they should immediately be brought to a specialised centre and we have to welcome them and it must be an international centre where they can ask authorisation to get your country, maybe it can be done, but we cannot have the people arriving in calais and trying to get your country. it's not more possible. and if the death of this 27 people can help, and it is a pity we have to wait until people die, but if that can help, they are all concerned and all discussing these human problem, that will be a big step. human problem, that will be a big ste. . ~ human problem, that will be a big ste. ., ~' ,, human problem, that will be a big ste. ., ,, i. human problem, that will be a big ste. . ~ . human problem, that will be a big ste. ., ,, . ., human problem, that will be a big ste. . . ., step. thank you so much for your time this morning. _ step. thank you so much for your time this morning. very - step. thank you so much for your time this morning. very good - time this morning. very good speaking to you and good luck with the work you are doing. the head of the work you are doing. the head of the ports of calais and boulogne speaking to us this morning. good morning. mike will bring us up to date with the sport and we have had to uk team is doing very well. liverpool had won their group and done theirjob, but they overcame psg with their attacking line to win their group as well and it's important because you get the advantage when it comes to the ceiling in the draw for the last 16. and manchester city will be in the pot to face runners—up, but how they tamed the likes of lionel messi and company. it was a night when messi and co were second best to manchester city who like liverpool won their champions league group to give them an advantage when it comes to the draw for the knock out stage. city beating paris saint germain 2—1 while liverpool scored one of the goals of the night as they saw off porto. 0ur sports corresponent andy swiss reports. a night of intrigue at the etihad.. manchester city facing paris st germain whose manager mauricio pochettino is one of the favourite for the vacant manchester united post but his current job soon seen sickly enough as city dominated the first half. riyadh mahrez then gundagon even nearer so near but still goalless at the break. after it though psg's stars finally struck. lionel messi finding kylian mbappe with thumping results. against the run of play the visitors were ahead but not for long as city is thrillingly stirred once more and this time they made it count. raheem sterling transforming the mancunian mood. excited? just a bit. so could city find a winner. with 15 minutes left gabrieljesus provided the perfect answer. jesus scores. a 2—1 win for city sealing their qualification and exhilarating fashion. as for liverpool the top spot in their group already guarantee they eased to a 2—9 win against porto. a stunnerfrom thiago and anotherfrom mo salah and all four english teams into the knockout stage then. could it once again be their year? now as you may have heard earlier the other big football story this morning is this review of the way football is governed in england which has concluded that an independent regulator is needed to ensure the financial sustainability of the men 5 game across the leagues to make it fairerfor all and to give fans a say in the way teams are run. nesta mcgregor has more. the hammers' first goal! the game itself has changed much over the past 150 years but one thing in football has remained constant, the relationship between supporter and club. although recently that has been tested. look no further than protests against ownership, breakaway leagues or a club's financial health. all of which led to a government review into how football in england is run. ultimately it will ensure that football clubs have good financial regulation in place, that it will have good corporate governance, will have to engage with fans which are a core part of the conversation in terms of this review, so i really think it will strengthen football, english football as we go forward into the future. since the end of the 2018—2019 season gigg lane, the home of bury football club has remained unused. the club went out of business after running into financial trouble. some say had football had an independent regulator the club might still exist today. the lancashire—based club was sold forjust £1. unpaid wages and mounting debts then led to it being expelled from the league. lots of football clubs and lots of football supporters around the country will be wondering what the big fuss is about with this particular review. my message to them is you don't know what you have until you lose it. it's more profound than people realise. several other well—known clubs have vanished from the footballing landscape. a collapse that not only of affects but the local community and its economy. ever present in the premier league, arsenal have a crowded trophy cabinet and plenty of money in the bank but they need too recognise the need for a healthy football pyramid built on firm foundations. their institutions they are part of the social fabric in the country. it's really hard thing at the time of the super league but arsenal fans weren't just fighting for arsenal we were fighting but all of football. english football is based on the pyramid and sporting merit promotion and relegation. there is no point in having an arsenal if you don't have a spurs or west ham or chelsea or leicester to hopefully beat as well. so we are all in this together and we recognise the common duty to look after football as well as look after arsenal. mps will now consider tracey crouch's recommendations before deciding when, if or how they could be implemented although getting all the relevant players on side could prove tricky. nestor mcgregor, bbc news. that is the key point. proposals are one thing the action is another and they still need everyone to come on board to make the proposals turn into action but a big step and broadly welcomed by lots of different football clu bs broadly welcomed by lots of different football clubs and bodies. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. it is definitely getting colder. definitely feeling wintry. you are ri . ht definitely feeling wintry. you are riaht on definitely feeling wintry. you are right on all— definitely feeling wintry. you are right on all counts, _ definitely feeling wintry. you are right on all counts, as _ definitely feeling wintry. you are right on all counts, as ever- definitely feeling wintry. you are right on all counts, as ever and l definitely feeling wintry. you are l right on all counts, as ever and on saturday there will be a severe wind chill and you will notice the difference, and we will give you a heads up on what is happening this week and into the weekend and there are the risks of gales of severe gales and some of us will see rain and snow and it's been a cold night and snow and it's been a cold night and you can see how through the course of the day the blues move across the whole of the uk and it will turn colder than it has been on these are the temperatures if you are just walking out and bridge foot in cumbria is —3 and a new key in the south—west, it is plus seven at the south—west, it is plus seven at the moment so some of us are starting with a touch of frost and some of us starting with snow. the snow showers have been growing through the course of the night through the course of the night through northern scotland dragging on a cold northerly wind and some of these might get back to lower levels for a time before they retreat into the hills but if you are anywhere near the windward coast, that is where you will see showers and it could be wintry in the north york moors and also the hills in northern ireland but for the bulk of the uk, as well as being a uk, it will be a sunny one, crisp, dry, and quite pleasant for this time of year and the kind of weather you would expect at this time of year. as we head through the evening and overnight the cloud will have gathered bringing in rain across the north west and that will be sinking steadily south through the night and increasingly we will see wintry showers across scotland again and some of those getting down to lower levels although showers, not all of us will see them and it will be cold enough skies in the south for a touch of frost the wind again is feature of the weather particularly across parts of scotland and northern ireland and the irish sea coastline and if anything as we have three tomorrow it will continue to be so. we have this area of low pressure and the front sinking south and the exact position where they land will determine what you get and where the strongest winds are and if you see sleet or snow. so tomorrow we start with all of the rain pushing away quite quickly by lunchtime and if we follow it around it is wrapped around an area of low pressure and that is a weather front which will bring in more snow, increasingly to lower levels across the north and west of scotland and on friday the met office has a weather warning out for wind across scotland, northern ireland and parts of northern england and we could have gusts up to 60mph, possibly 70, and you can see further showers as we push further south. thru friday night and saturday, here is the low pressure and we still have this front wrapped around it and we are looking at snow showers at lower levels across parts of scotland and in some of the other showers dotted around we will see snow but mostly on the hills. still very windy, especially out towards the west with gusts to gale force, if not severe gales. as we head through the rest of friday night, you can see how the rain, sleet and snow pushes further south and the wind is still strong, straight northerly and it will be cold and there will be frost around as well, so lots going on with the weather and on saturday the rain, sleet and snow pushes to the south, still windy and most of the showers will be across the north sea coastline and some of those could be wintry but we will see a few getting into wales and the south—west and the met office has a yellow warning out for almost the whole of the uk on saturday for the wind and the strength of the gusts could potentially be damaging or disruptive, except for the south—east. that could change, so keep an eye on the forecast as we head into sunday. iforgot keep an eye on the forecast as we head into sunday. i forgot i keep an eye on the forecast as we head into sunday. iforgot i had this chart. this is the wind chill. it will feel raw during the course of saturday, like below freezing that on sunday things settle down and the low pressure moves away and high pressure starts to build in and it will still be cold, but not as windy. beatles fans — the wait is over. for more than half a century nearly 60 hours of footage which shows the band making the "let it be" album has remained in a vault. now it's been restored and made into a three—part documentary by peterjackson who directed the lord of the rings trilogy. the first part comes out today on disney+ and peterjackson has given his only uk tv interview about it to our entertainment correspondent colin paterson. # get back. we'll have to do it sitting down. or we will get too excited. the sounds, the colours, thejoy of the beatles making music unseen for more than half a century. ringo said we thought we just had to tell it like it is. the man entrusted to restore almost 60 hours of footage from the let it be sessions injanuary 1969, the lord of the rings director, peterjackson. what made you want to dedicate four years of your life to this project? well, i wouldn't have done if it was the rolling stones or something. bit controversial, sorry. a musical documentary is not of huge appeal to me to me but the beatles, yeah, i'm100%. four years no problem. i've loved every second of it. # speaking words of wisdom... do you want it more heavy? we will never get - a chance to do it again. the project almost happened by mistake. peterjackson was meeting with the beatles company apple to discuss the possibility of a virtual reality exhibition. so cats and kittens ? but as a beatles obsessive he took his chance to find out something he always wanted to know what happened to the outtakes from the 1970 beatles documentary let it be. they said to me well yes we've got it all which was great. as a fan i was sat there thinking yes "you've got it all." they were thinking about using it for a documentary a stand—alone documentary and they didn't have a film—maker attached so it's the only time i have ever done this and i put my hand up and said if you're looking for somebody please think of me. just say whatever comes into your head each time. try into your head each time. to be a cauliflower until get try to be a cauliflower until you get the — try to be a cauliflower until you get the word. peterjackson was offered the job the same day. his only concern he'd always been turn that the making of the let it be album was a gloomy time of the beatles but when he sat down to watch the outtakes what surprised him was just how much fun everyone was having. if the footage showed everyone a truly miserable band not wanting to be doing what they were doing, i wouldn't have made the movie. that's not the movie i wanted to make. i was amazed and surprised to see the footage showing a very different story to what i believed for a0 years. it's going to be such a comical thing in 50 years' time they broke up because yoko sat on the amp. paul mccartney said watching this documentary has changed his perception of the break—up of the beatles. that's quite a thing. when i talk to ringo or paul about their memories generally of 1969 they talk to me and they say i think you are remembering the movie let it be from 1970 because you're obviously saw it and i think what you have brought us is a let it be is where you are unhappy in may 1970 there was arguments there was lawyers, it was clearly a very stressful and miserable time for you guys. you're not remembering this was a perfectly happy time and this was not a band who were going to break up when you see this and that's what you see on screen. now going to tape the beatles, so be quiet. oh, so you're recording our conversation? - and the secret nature of much of the filming allowed a unique insight into what it was really like to be in the studio with the beatles. looking for a blast from the past? they hit the button and had ten minutes then go away and have a cup of tea so the beatles would think that guy's not got the camera sitting there so they would loosen up and feel that they weren't being filmed and they could be honest with each other. and it's when they don't know that they are being filmed when you get amazing bits and an amazing insight into the individuals in the band. what did you learn about the beatles then from those moments? i mean i learned in january 1969 they were unbelievably normal people. they were liverpool guys. there is a psychic connection between them where they don't have to talk to each other to know what they are thinking and what to do. it's a strong depth of that friendship that really struck me. the best bit of us always has been and always will be is when we our backs are against the wall. all we've got is us. what do you think? in the end there was so much footage that get back has been divided into three parts and there is one other trilogy that links peterjackson to the beatles. 0ne real curiosity, in the 1960s, the beatles actually wanted to make a lord of the rings movie directed by stanley kubrick. what do you know about that? i've been scraping together little pieces of information and interrogating paul about it. when they went to india, when they stayed in india for three months with the maharishi in the beginning of 1968, john paul and george each got one lord of the rings book to read in india and they got excited about it and ultimately they couldn't get the rights from tolkien, because tolkien didn't like the idea of a pop group during his story. paul as frodo and john as gollum. i believe. apparently. how different your life might have been had they made the movie. when i spoke to paul about it he said i'm glad i didn't do it and you got to you do yours and i like your film, but i don't know. and i said to him it's a shame you didn't do it because what would the soundtrack be like? that would have been 1a or 15 beatles songs that would have been pretty incredible to listen to. one, two, three, four. peterjackson, thank you very much for speaking to us. you are very welcome. thank you. asa as a dating seeing those images and you know peterjackson is a top director and you know that from the quality of the zoom. episode one is released on disney plus at eight o'clock this morning. and episode two will be tomorrow and episode three comes after that. the thing about that is, paul mccartney endorsing it by saying it made him think differently about the time he was living. which is quite something.— was living. which is quite somethina. ,. , ., , something. reminiscing, you see thins something. reminiscing, you see things differently. _ something. reminiscing, you see things differently. enough - something. reminiscing, you see things differently. enough of - something. reminiscing, you see things differently. enough of the | things differently. enough of the philosophy. we will be back at seven with the headlines. good morning, i'm sonja jessup. an officer from scotland yard's parliamentary and diplomatic protection command accused of raping a woman he met on tinder has been accused of sexually assaulting three more women. pc david carrick, from stevenage, appeared in court last month on the initial charge which he denied. police say a further three women have now come forward and made similar complaints against him. as londoners face the first of series of tube drivers' strike tomorrow, the mayor has called for further talks with the rmt union. it'll affect the central, jubilee, northern, piccadilly and victoria lines as well as the relaunch of the night tube on saturday. it's over changes to working hours which the rmt says are unfair. 0ur message to the rmt is talk to us, come back round the table, talk to tfl. all of the unions have accepted that the night tube needs to return and accepted that the rosters. they understand the importance to the nighttime economy of the night tube, but also women's safety. several self defence clubs have told the bbc they've seen a rise in the number of women taking up classes amidst continuing headlines about women's safety. one group in south east london says enquiries are up by 75 percent. i think i started to feel a bit more unsafe just walking around by myself, especially coming into winter, in the evening when it is getting dark, and just feeling i did not know what i would do if someone were to try to attack me. i bought a rape alarm, but i don't have any other idea what i would do in that situation. i wanted to feel a bit more empowered to take care of myself. wembley park will be lit up tonight with the return of the christmas lights trail �*winterfest�*. its centrepiece is a 25 foot tree. the big switch on happens at 7 o'clock tonight. travel now. the metropolitan line has minor delays between moor park to chesham and watford, not enough trains running again. time for the weather now with elizabeth rizzini. good morning. it's been a very cold week of weather so far across the capital and things are only set to turn chillier still as we head through the rest of it but there will be some sunshine around at times, notably today. it's another cold, frosty start to the morning for many of us especially towards northern home counties where we saw the cloud clear first. further south a cloudier picture and it will clear southwards and a slightly milder start to the day but lots of sunshine emerging just about everywhere and a bit more cloud for the afternoon and a noticeable northerly wind so some wind chill to factor into the temperatures and it will feel cold and highs of six or 7 c. as we head through the evening and overnight, watch out for a sharp frost developing for the first half of the night with temperatures dropping below freezing in a few spots but then there will be more cloud into friday morning itself and on friday we have an area of low pressure that will give us strong, gusty winds and some outbreaks of rain that will fall as rain and temperatures ever so slightly higher but not a great day of weather and plenty of added wind—chill but windier still as we go into saturday. watch out for some showers as it will be feeling cold and some of the showers could be wintry on the higher ground. more from me in half an hour. and you can check out our website. good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. 0ur headlines today. britain and france agree to step up efforts to stop people crossing the channel after 27 men, women and a child drowned when their boat sank as they tried to reach the uk. protestors held a vigil in calais overnight. french ministers will hold crisis talks in this morning. translation: the first people responsible for this despicable | situation are the smugglers. we'll be hearing from the people trying to reach the uk about why they're willing to risk their lives crossing the world's busiest shipping lane in tiny inflatable boats. where are you going now? the uk. english football needs an independent regulator to stop it "lurching from crisis to crisis" — that's according to a fan—led review into the sport. while the city slickers make it a miserable night for messi in the champions league. raheem sterling proves his worth as manchester city and liverpool both win to top their champions league groups. will the christmas party get started this year? bookings are backed up after a tough 18 months for the hospitality industry. many firms worn shortage of staff means they cannot operate at full capacity. we have got a real blast of winter coming our way over the next few days, turning colder, some of us seeing some rain, sleet or snow and severe gales. today is quieter, a fair bit of sunshine, a few showers and windy along the coast. it's thursday the 25th of november. our main story. the prime minister and president macron of france have agreed to step up joint efforts to prevent illegal crossings of the channel after at least 27 people drowned when their boat capsized off the coast of northern france. four suspected traffickers have been arrested on suspicion of being linked to the sinking. jon donnison has the latest. along the northern french coast, the search for the missing went on after dark. but with temperatures in single digits, the chance of finding anyone alive increasingly remote. at least 27 bodies have been recovered. the biggest loss of life in the channel since it became the preferred route of people traffickers. translation: the first people responsible for this despicable | situation other smugglers. situation are the smugglers. that is to say, criminals who, for a few thousand euros, organise the trafficking of human beings from iraq, afghanistan, africa and asia. it's thought around 25 boats like this set off from the beaches of northern france yesterday. where are you going now? the uk. this one, we know, made it across the channel, but it's a treacherous journey, across one of the world's busiest shipping lanes. this disaster underscores how dangerous it is to cross the channel in this way. and it also shows how vital it is that we now step up our efforts to break the business model of the gangsters who are sending people to sea in this way. last night, the government's cobra emergency committee met, and the prime minister held an urgent phone call with the french president emmanuel macron. downing street said the two men agreed to step up joint efforts to prevent the crossings. any decisions made? evening. and to stop the gangs putting people's lives at risk. but people the bbc spoke to at this calais migrant camp last night said they would keep trying to reach the uk. uday said he attempted to cross earlier this week but gave up because the waves were too high. we need to create safe and legal routes for people to get here, through planned resettlement programmes and family reunion. and we also need to have a safe and fair asylum system here so that people, when they've made theirjourneys, can claim asylum and be fairly assessed. in calais last night, people demanding refugees be better treated held a vigil for those who died. after a year of record numbers crossing the channel, people on all sides of the argument have warned this was a tragedy waiting to happen. jon donnison, bbc news. we'll speak to lucy williamson in calais shortly. but first let'sjoin simon jones in dover. good morning. i know this is a story that you have covered not only over the last 24—hour is but for many weeks and months in the past. the awful reality is, more people will be trying to make that very small crossing today.— crossing today. yes, the deaths don't seem _ crossing today. yes, the deaths don't seem to _ crossing today. yes, the deaths don't seem to have _ crossing today. yes, the deaths don't seem to have put - crossing today. yes, the deaths don't seem to have put people | crossing today. yes, the deaths i don't seem to have put people off. in recent weeks, it's thought up to ten people have died attempting to reach the uk out there in the sea, but yesterday, hundreds more did try to make the crossing. we know scores of people were brought here to dover ljy of people were brought here to dover by the border force and the lifeboat. the french authorities said they rescued 106 people from the channel in french waters. sadly, though, 27 people lost their lives including five women and a young girl. initially the french authorities said they thought 31 people had died, overnight the figure was reduced to 27, still an awful death toll. i think that gives you a sense of the confusing picture that faced the authorities when they were called to the incident by a passing fishing boat. when these boats take to the water, they are often dangerously overloaded. it appears in this case, the boat was particularly flimsy, that is how it was described as the french authorities. we don't know much about the people who were on board the boat. it will be quite a task to discover their identities. 0ften discover their identities. often people take to the water without any form of identification, trying to get over here to the uk. i think the authorities here have been surprised that these crossings have continued in quite the numbers they have, now we are in autumn. in previous years, once we got to november and december, the number of people making crossings has fallen dramatically. i think it reflects that this is now an all year round route because it is so lucrative. the people smugglers charging each migrantaround the people smugglers charging each migrant around £3000 to get on board the boat. 0ur france correspondent lucy williamson is in calais. good morning. bring us up to date in terms of what has been said locally in calais, but also by the french government this morning. we are startin: to government this morning. we are starting to get — government this morning. we are starting to get some _ government this morning. we are starting to get some suggestions| government this morning. we are l starting to get some suggestions of who the victims might be. there are reports in the local press here that they were mostly from the middle east, one report suggests they may have been kurdish people from iraq and iran, and the two survivors in hospital are believed to be a somali and an iraqi, that needs to be confirmed. we know the bodies have been taken to lille, along with the boat as well, for autopsy and investigation into how it sank. you heard from simon saying it was a flimsy and fragile boat, the kind that smugglers here often use and have made to transport people across the channel. in paris, the prime minister will be holding a crisis meeting. the interior ministries of france and britain are both due to speak later today. the lyc e has put out a statement between the phone call between president macron and borisjohnson call between president macron and boris johnson yesterday with macron telling mrjohnson that the two countries had a shared responsibility and telling mr johnson, he expected the uk to fully cooperate and stop using the situation for political ends. thank ou ve situation for political ends. thank you very much- — you very much. we understand what is happening in france with that crisis meeting. 0ur political correspondent damian grammaticas is in westminster. the emergency cobra committee met last night chaired by borisjohnson, and lots of conversations, and perhaps now even more of an effort to come to some sort of agreement about how to deal with this problem? there have been discussions and talk for several years now about more cooperation. 0ne for several years now about more cooperation. one of the difficulties is, as barack 0bama and was hinting, this all fits into a —— as president macron was hinting, this fits into some difficulties with brexit. we do not now have a return agreement so we are not able to send people back. 0nly five people have been returned so far this year. where does that leave it? the possibility of turning boats back is not possible, that is illegal under international law. so talk about cooperation, difficult again for what the uk wants which is uk personnel operating on french territory. 0n the other side are those who say, it isn't an offence for people to come and seek asylum, and to seek it in the uk so therefore perhaps one route that the uk should look at is opening more avenues for legal, safe reunification for families, avenues for legal, safe reunification forfamilies, people reunification for families, people who reunification forfamilies, people who want to come here. that might be another way of deterring this. thank ou ve another way of deterring this. thank you very much. _ another way of deterring this. thank you very much, damien. _ english football needs an independent regulator to give fans more say in the way the teams they support are run. that's according to a fan—led review, which the government set up after six big premier league clubs tried to form a breakaway european super league while many clubs in lower divisions were in severe financial hardship. a jury in the us has found three white men guilty of murdering a black man as he was jogging in the city of brunswick, georgia, last year. they claimed they were trying to make a citizen's arrest on 25—year—old ahmaud arbery who they said "looked like a burglar". his death, along with that of george floyd in minneapolis helped to inspire the black lives matter movement. mr arbery�*s mother spoke outside court after the verdict. i never thought this day would come. but god is good. yes, he is. and i just want to tell everybody, thank you, thank you for those who marched, those who prayed, most of all, the ones who prayed. yes. lord. — thank you, god, thank you. the defence secretary ben wallace will announce plans today to recruit an extra 500 army troops on top of the 72,500 previously set out. this is still less than the current target of 82,000. the army says the announcement will lead to sweeping changes to the way it's organised and how it operates. a man will appear in court today charged with the murders of a couple who were attacked in their home while their young children slept upstairs. stephen and jennifer chapple suffered fatal stab wounds on sunday evening. colin reeves, who's 3a, is due before magistrates in taunton. the duke of cambridge has been discussing the mental health pressures of working on the frontline with two emergency workers ahead of a conference organised by his royalfoundation. in footage released by kensington palace, prince william spoke to a paramedic and an emergency care assistant and reflected on his own experiences as an air ambulance pilot. when i was in the air ambulance, any jobi when i was in the air ambulance, any job i went to the children, that really affected me, much more than i think if i hadn't had children. so for me, it was the relation of my personal life with effectively the family or the incident i was at. i found it very difficult. there were a number of times when i had to take myself away because i was just getting too involved in it, feeling it. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. good morning. good morning. as we head into this weekend, the weather is certainly going to take a turn for a more wintry scene. it will turn colder, the risk of gales and severe gales, some of us will see spells of rain, sleet and slow. the exact track of the weather front will determine what you get to keep watching the forecast. we have had wintry showers in the north of scotland, we have showers coming in across the coasts, and it is a cold northerly coming our way today. some of the showers will be wintry on higher ground in the highlands. we could see some wintriness in the north york moors and the hills in northern ireland. for most of us, it will be cold and dry, crisp, good visibility and a fair bit of sunshine. these are the temperatures, four to nine degrees. cloud and rain gathering already in the north—west will start to push south overnight, some wintriness behind it even to lower levels in parts of scotland, and the wind will become a feature of the weather because part of scotland, northern ireland and the irish sea. clear skies in the south—east means they will have a touch of frost but we will have a touch of frost but we will start with sunshine. that will be short lived because the weather front will push southwards. if we follow the weather front round, it wraps around the low pressure bringing some more snow across northern and western scotland. some of that will be at low levels. further south, some showers could be wintry on the hills. tomorrow the wind will be a feature again. the bet office has a weather warning out for the wind across scotland, northern ireland and northern england. widely, gusts 50 to 60 miles an houra england. widely, gusts 50 to 60 miles an hour a grand the coast, some could have 70 to 80 —— around the coast, some could have 70 to 80 miles an hour. an unsettled period of the coming our way. charlie... carroll, thank you so much, sorry, i can't believe i cold you charlie! —— called you charlie! sorry! let's return now to that tragedy in the channel which has prompted the leaders of britain and france to agree on the need to "urgently step—up" theirjoint efforts to prevent people from crossing. the prime minister borisjohnson spoke to president emmanuel macron by phone last night. but what sort of measures would make a difference? let's get a view from the dover mp natalie elphicke, and zoe gardner, from thejoint council for the welfare of immigrants. good morning to you both. as many people have said, it is a day that perhaps was inevitable, because of what has been happening, and the number of crossings that we are seeing over the channel. natalie elphicke, what do you think needs to be done now? we know the uk is talking and there are crisis talks in france, the hope is now that some coordination can be improved. weill. coordination can be improved. well, yesterday's — coordination can be improved. well, yesterday's tragedy _ coordination can be improved. well, yesterday's tragedy cannot - coordination can be improved. h yesterday's tragedy cannot be repeated and we need to have an urgent and swift action to make sure that these boats are not entering the water. here in dover, it is windy, rainy, and it is extremely cold. people should not be in the water in this weather. it is an incredibly dangerous crossing. and otherwise we will see more loss of life. i would like to see the patrols stepped up on the beaches, making sure that the boats do not get in the water in the first place. that's the best way to keep people safe, by keeping them on the shores of france where they are already say. of france where they are already sa . ~ , ., _ of france where they are already sa. ., ., of france where they are already sa. ., say. when you say you want to see atrols say. when you say you want to see patrols -- _ say. when you say you want to see patrols -- where — say. when you say you want to see patrols -- where they _ say. when you say you want to see patrols -- where they are - say. when you say you want to see patrols -- where they are already. patrols —— where they are already safe. when you say you want to see patrols stepped up, it is being resisted by france, how many patrols can be offered? we were talking to a representative from the calais port authority who said, when i hear that the french are not doing enough, we have 100 kilometres of sand, but his advice to control. there are a lot of controls already —— sand, beaches and forests to control, there are a lot of controls already but it is a lot of controls already but it is a lot of controls already but it is a lot of land. lot of controls already but it is a lot of land-— lot of land. yesterday we saw foota . e lot of land. yesterday we saw footage of— lot of land. yesterday we saw footage of french _ lot of land. yesterday we saw footage of french police - lot of land. yesterday we saw - footage of french police standing by while people got the boat ready, picked up the engine and took to the water on the french side. they did absolutely nothing. that is an acceptable and it has got to change. —— that is unacceptable and it has got to change. the british are willing to help and i'm sure the eu would come to the french? aid as well. this is a humanitarian crisis on the shore of france and these people smugglers must not be allowed to continue to ply their trade and put peoples lives at risk on the wintry seas. it is vital that action is taken and the only way to do that is taken and the only way to do that is to stop people on the beach on france to get into the boat and turn them around swiftly in french waters. to them around swiftly in french waters. ., , . ., them around swiftly in french waters. . ., ., ., waters. to be clear, you have a fiaure waters. to be clear, you have a figure on _ waters. to be clear, you have a figure on what _ waters. to be clear, you have a figure on what we _ waters. to be clear, you have a figure on what we can - waters. to be clear, you have a figure on what we can offer - waters. to be clear, you have a figure on what we can offer in l waters. to be clear, you have a - figure on what we can offer in terms of patrols? i figure on what we can offer in terms of atrols? , . ., ., of patrols? i expect that that will be art of of patrols? i expect that that will be part of the — of patrols? i expect that that will be part of the discussions - of patrols? i expect that that will be part of the discussions you . of patrols? i expect that that will l be part of the discussions you have referred to between france and the uk today. but referred to between france and the uk toda . �* ., , , referred to between france and the uktoda . �* , uk today. but it has been offered in the ast, uk today. but it has been offered in the past. hasn't _ uk today. but it has been offered in the past, hasn't it? _ uk today. but it has been offered in the past, hasn't it? it— uk today. but it has been offered in the past, hasn't it? it has— uk today. but it has been offered in the past, hasn't it? it has been - the past, hasn't it? it has been offered in _ the past, hasn't it? it has been offered in the _ the past, hasn't it? it has been offered in the past _ the past, hasn't it? it has been offered in the past and - the past, hasn't it? it has been offered in the past and i'm - the past, hasn't it? it has been| offered in the past and i'm sure the past, hasn't it? it has been i offered in the past and i'm sure it would be offered again and the french did not take it up. we work very well with the french, with juxtaposed controls, french offices in dover and british border officials working in the calais. we have a long and good border security cooperation agreement for legal route so we must extend it to the illegal routes, working together to stop people getting into the boats and saving lives by making sure the boats do not get in the water in the first place. boats do not get in the water in the first lace. , ., ., ., first place. sally gardener, good morninu. first place. sally gardener, good morning. today _ first place. sally gardener, good morning. today the _ first place. sally gardener, good morning. today the questions i first place. sally gardener, good. morning. today the questions are about how to stop these crossings. —— zoe, good morning. what can be done here? in -- zoe, good morning. what can be done here?— done here? in the wake of such a horrific tragedy, _ done here? in the wake of such a horrific tragedy, we _ done here? in the wake of such a horrific tragedy, we have - done here? in the wake of such a horrific tragedy, we have been i horrific tragedy, we have been devastated at our organisation to hear about such a huge loss of life including _ hear about such a huge loss of life including men, women and children. this challenger? mcrae tragedy was completely predicted and it was preventable. i don't know how many times— preventable. i don't know how many times you _ preventable. i don't know how many times you have spoken to politicians who have _ times you have spoken to politicians who have said that a few more patrols — who have said that a few more patrols on _ who have said that a few more patrols on the beach which is of the problem _ patrols on the beach which is of the problem but i have had it 100,000 times— problem but i have had it 100,000 times at— problem but i have had it 100,000 times at least and this approach has failed _ times at least and this approach has failed us _ times at least and this approach has failed us. this tragedy must mark a turning _ failed us. this tragedy must mark a turning point, it must be not allowed _ turning point, it must be not allowed to continue. we need to offer— allowed to continue. we need to offer people alternatives to the smuggling boats. to offer people alternatives to the smuggling boats.— offer people alternatives to the smuggling boats. to be fair, sorry to interrupt. _ smuggling boats. to be fair, sorry to interrupt, the _ smuggling boats. to be fair, sorry to interrupt, the offer _ smuggling boats. to be fair, sorry to interrupt, the offer of - smuggling boats. to be fair, sorry to interrupt, the offer of patrols i to interrupt, the offer of patrols has been refused by the french so that approach has not been... the french are — that approach has not been... tue: french are patrolling that approach has not been... tte: french are patrolling their that approach has not been... tt2 french are patrolling their own border. �* , ' . , border. and insufficiently, as we have seen- _ border. and insufficiently, as we have seen- i _ border. and insufficiently, as we have seen. i agree _ border. and insufficiently, as we have seen. i agree it _ border. and insufficiently, as we have seen. i agree it is - border. and insufficiently, as we i have seen. i agree it is horrendous, there are images — have seen. i agree it is horrendous, there are images of _ have seen. i agree it is horrendous, there are images of the _ have seen. i agree it is horrendous, there are images of the french - there are images of the french police — there are images of the french police standing by while children -ot police standing by while children got onto— police standing by while children got onto one of those unsafe vessels _ got onto one of those unsafe vessels. the french have a huge amount— vessels. the french have a huge amount to — vessels. the french have a huge amount to answer for. also the condition— amount to answer for. also the condition that people live in in northern— condition that people live in in northern france, they are destitute, and when _ northern france, they are destitute, and when they are prevented from making _ and when they are prevented from making the crossings, they are left destitute _ making the crossings, they are left destitute and not offered any support _ destitute and not offered any support. they have not found safety in that _ support. they have not found safety in that point. in many cases, this is about— in that point. in many cases, this is about people joining family members, coming to a country where they have _ members, coming to a country where they have connections and they believe — they have connections and they believe they can build a future. it only makes sense for us to offer them _ only makes sense for us to offer them ways— only makes sense for us to offer them ways to make theirjourney without _ them ways to make theirjourney without getting into the sea smuggler boat. that is how you cut off the _ smuggler boat. that is how you cut off the source of the problem. the government has a bill going through parliament that its own evidence says will— parliament that its own evidence says will make this worse, force people — says will make this worse, force people to — says will make this worse, force people to make more dangerous journeys, — people to make more dangerous journeys, that will always be a stretch — journeys, that will always be a stretch of— journeys, that will always be a stretch of coastline not patrolled, always _ stretch of coastline not patrolled, always and officially can bribe. as lon- always and officially can bribe. as long as _ always and officially can bribe. as long as the borders are closed to refugees, — long as the borders are closed to refugees, desperate people take these _ refugees, desperate people take these risks. to refugees, desperate people take these risks-— these risks. to pick up on the oint, these risks. to pick up on the point, natalie _ these risks. to pick up on the point, natalie elphicke, - these risks. to pick up on the point, natalie elphicke, if- these risks. to pick up on the - point, natalie elphicke, if people are going to seek asylum and refuge, surely rather than making it more difficult, the process should be made easier. this is not about people who wants to come and take our benefits or use our resources, these are people who are escaping desperate times, who are in desperate times, who are in desperate moments in time. what can be done to make that easier and more humane? tt be done to make that easier and more humane? , ., ., ., humane? it is important that we do recornise humane? it is important that we do recognise that _ humane? it is important that we do recognise that people _ humane? it is important that we do recognise that people are _ humane? it is important that we do recognise that people are already i recognise that people are already safe in france and many other european and other countries before they get to france. it's simply not correct to say that people are not in safety. there is help and assistance available and they should be seeking it, rather than putting to sea in a dinghy in the hands of the people smugglers. this to sea in a dinghy in the hands of the people smugglers.— to sea in a dinghy in the hands of the people smugglers. this is about --eole the people smugglers. this is about people smuggling- _ the people smugglers. this is about people smuggling. that's _ the people smugglers. this is about people smuggling. that's a - the people smugglers. this is about people smuggling. that's a slightlyl people smuggling. that's a slightly different point, sorry to interrupt you. the point is, they want to come to the uk, they have a right to come to the uk, they have a right to come to the uk as an asylum seeker, the point is the journey here is treacherous, how can that be made better and safer? the treacherous, how can that be made better and safer?— treacherous, how can that be made better and safer? the “ourney across four small boats _ better and safer? the “ourney across four small boats is — better and safer? the journey across four small boats is unlawful, - better and safer? the journey across four small boats is unlawful, it - better and safer? the journey across four small boats is unlawful, it is - four small boats is unlawful, it is an illegal route of entry. there are safe and legal route and it is vital that the message gets out there that people must take safe and legal routes and up to them in the hands of people smugglers. we take a large number of people —— and not put them in the hands of people smugglers. we take a large number of people from conflict zones, and we put them in places of safety and bring them directly to this country. that is the way our asylum should work, to make sure we are bringing in people in the greatest need, the most vulnerable, directly from the areas of conflict and that is what we do. this is about illegal activity, about people smuggling, it is about loss of life. and i agree it was predictable and it needs to be brought to an end. there are only a few specific departure points where we see the large number of these crossings occurring, they need to be targeted and patrolled and those boats need to be stopped in that way the people smugglers will not succeed. they will know they cannot get people to britain and it will bring an end to the small boats crisis. ., ., ., ., crisis. i want to get a word from zoe _ crisis. i want to get a word from zoe gardener— crisis. i want to get a word from zoe gardener as - crisis. i want to get a word from zoe gardener as well. i crisis. i want to get a word i from zoe gardener as well. your response to that? tim from zoe gardener as well. your response to that?— from zoe gardener as well. your response to that? i'm afraid natalie will know perfectly _ response to that? i'm afraid natalie will know perfectly well _ response to that? i'm afraid natalie will know perfectly well because - response to that? i'm afraid natalie j will know perfectly well because her colleague victoria atkinson who is in charge — colleague victoria atkinson who is in charge of the resettlement programme from afghanistan stood up in parliament this week and said four times — in parliament this week and said four times that there is no timescale in place, even to begin to bring _ timescale in place, even to begin to bring people in safety from afghanistan to the uk. it is not true _ afghanistan to the uk. it is not true there _ afghanistan to the uk. it is not true there are safe routes. we have left the _ true there are safe routes. we have left the dublin regulation which allows— left the dublin regulation which allows for people to reunite with their— allows for people to reunite with their family allows for people to reunite with theirfamily members allows for people to reunite with their family members within the eu, if someone — their family members within the eu, if someone was in france, greece or italy. _ if someone was in france, greece or italy. they— if someone was in france, greece or italy, they could apply to the uk, we have — italy, they could apply to the uk, we have left that season. those people — we have left that season. those people are also forced to make the irregular— people are also forced to make the irregular crossing to force the uk. listening — irregular crossing to force the uk. listening to natalie, it is disgraceful how the french have been behaving _ disgraceful how the french have been behaving but i can see why they refuse _ behaving but i can see why they refuse to — behaving but i can see why they refuse to cooperate. we are expecting them to take in all the refugees— expecting them to take in all the refugees and say none of this is our problem. _ refugees and say none of this is our problem, and that is not right. we are a _ problem, and that is not right. we are a compassionate country, people want to— are a compassionate country, people want to do— are a compassionate country, people want to do their bit and step up and health— want to do their bit and step up and health refugees —— help refugees and we need _ health refugees —— help refugees and we need to— health refugees —— help refugees and we need to help them do that and reverse _ we need to help them do that and reverse this terrible pathway for criminalising people making journeys to safe _ criminalising people making journeys to safe haven. criminalising people making “ourneys to safe haven.— criminalising people making “ourneys to safe havn— to safe haven. thank you very much for “oininv to safe haven. thank you very much forjoining us— to safe haven. thank you very much forjoining us from _ to safe haven. thank you very much forjoining us from dover, _ to safe haven. thank you very much forjoining us from dover, natalie i forjoining us from dover, natalie elphicke, and zoe gardner from the joint council of the welfare of immigrants, thank you. the time is 7:25am. we all know the difference a good night's sleep can make to our physical and mental well—being. and yet many children in the uk still don't have a proper bed because their families are struggling financially. that's why a teacher from leeds has set up a charity which has given out 1&00 beds over the last four years. she's called bex wilson and she invited us out on one of her delivery runs. every postcode in leeds has been affected by bed poverty. and we know that because we have delivered beds there. all of us are only a couple of bad days or bad moments away from needing similar support to what we offer. we are heading to ourfirst delivery of the evening. hopefully meeting the children, a lovely surprise for them, with some brand—new beds and bedding and pyjamas this evening. hello, lovely! how are you? your school sent us, because they said that you're fabulous, is that true? so the whole plan is that you're going to be moving into your separate bedrooms. to do that, you have got a brand—new bed, gorgeous mattress, duvet. another duvet there. two pillows. you've got some bedding in there and some pyjamas, all brand—new and all for you, 0k? we did a food parcel a couple of weeks ago because we were low on money that week. and they've just give us bed and bedding for the children and some pyjamas, which i can hear them all going through now! at the moment, us washer's as well as the same time trying to save up for a bed. so that money can now go straight to a washing machine, which i can buy outright now instead ofjust saving up for it. so that means i've got more money for christmas then. referrals from schools are only ever increasing. it's only going to get worse. and it's just, it's just not right, is it, in 2021 that in britain we have children that don't have a bed. we know that the key out of poverty, the cycle of poverty is education, and people are not going to get an education that can break that cycle unless they have got a tummy full of food, and a good nights sleep. and not having a bed just means that they're not going to have that chance, that starting point at all. you've got four stars already? how have you managed that? they have told us that you're fabulous, but they said it would be even better if you had a good night's sleep, that will help you be even better in your learning. and a brand—new bed needs brand—new pyjamas, so there you go, boys. some bedding. run that in, come back. so, the boys that we just delivered to are adamant that they wanted to come and help out bringing in the beds. their manners were gorgeous. huge big smiles, huge big thank yous, and you can tell on theirfaces, children don't hide it, do they? sometimes people think, you can't just keep giving things out, we need to solve the problem. we need to sort the causes of the problem. but whilst there are children sleeping on floors, sleeping on beanbags, sleeping on a sofa or chair, four or five sharing one single bed, we will continue to give out beds because that's what they need. it may look like it's a bed or it's putting a sticking plaster on a really big problem, but that child still needs a bed. whatever the causes, whatever has happened beforehand, that child in that moment, if we don't go and intervene, that child will still be sleeping on the floor and that's the difference that we're trying to make. good on you, bex, and thank you for letting us film with you to see what a difference. it is so underrated, sleep, just having that peaceful place. you remember when you were young, you would sit in your bed and do your homework or read or whatever. a safe place. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, i'm sonja jessup. an officer from scotland yard's parliamentary and diplomatic protection command accused of raping a woman he met on tinder has been accused of sexually assaulting three more women. pc david carrick, from stevenage, appeared in court last month on the initial charge, which he denied. police say a further three women have now come forward. as londoners face the first of series of 24—hour tube strikes tomorrow, the mayor has called for further talks with the rmt union. the dispute affects the central, jubilee, northern, piccadilly and victoria lines, as well as the relaunch of the night tube on saturday. it's over changes to working hours, which the rmt says are unfair. 0ur message to the rmt is talk to us, come back round the table, talk to tfl. all of the unions have accepted that the night tube needs to return and accepted the rosters. they understand the importance to the nighttime economy of the night tube, but also women's safety. several self defence clubs have told the bbc they've seen a rise in the number of women taking up classes amidst continuing headlines about women's safety. one group in south east london says enquiries are up by 75%. i think i started to feel a bit more unsafe just walking around by myself, especially coming into winter, in the evening when it is getting dark, and just feeling i did not know what i would do if someone were to try to attack me. i bought a rape alarm, but i don't have any other idea what i would do in that situation. i wanted to feel a bit more empowered to take care of myself. wembley park will be lit up tonight with the return of the christmas lights trail �*winterfest�*. it's centrepiece is a 25 foot tree. the big switch on happens at 7 o clock tonight. travel now. this is how the tube looks. no reported problems at the moment. the overground the overg round is the overground is part suspended. time for the weather now with elizabeth rizzini. good morning. it's been a very cold week of weather so far across the capital and things are only set to turn chillier still as we head through the rest of it but there will be some sunshine around at times, notably today. it's another cold, frosty start to the morning for many of us especially towards northern home counties where we saw the cloud clear first. further south a cloudier picture and it will clear southwards and a slightly milder start to the day but lots of sunshine emerging just about everywhere and a bit more cloud for the afternoon and a noticeable northerly wind so some wind chill to factor into the temperatures and it will feel cold and highs of six or 7 c. as we head through the evening and overnight, watch out for a sharp frost developing for the first half of the night with temperatures dropping below freezing in a few spots but then there will be more cloud into friday morning itself and on friday we have an area of low pressure that will give us strong, gusty winds and some outbreaks of rain that will fall as rain and temperatures ever so slightly higher but not a great day of weather and plenty of added wind—chill but windier still as we go into saturday. watch out for some showers as it will be feeling cold and some of the showers could be wintry on the higher ground. more from me in an hour. and you can check out our website too. now i'll hand you back to charlie and naga. bye for now. hello this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt the prime minister borisjohnson has said he wants to "break the business model" of the gangsters who arrange illegal channel crossings — like the one which claimed 27 lives yesterday. let's get a better idea of how he might do that. the immigration minister kevin foster is in our westminster studio. do you have any updates in connection with the incident itself? good morning. the home secretary will be speaking to her french counterpart later this morning. obviously our heart goes out in terms of those who lost their lives yesterday, and at least 27 people have died but the dynamic situation is there and the french authorities are investigating and we are keen to let them get on with their work and we have offered any support we can give. we have offered any support we can hive. a , we have offered any support we can live, , , we have offered any support we can hive. , , ., we have offered any support we can ive. , , ., , give. many people have observed this to be very shocking _ give. many people have observed this to be very shocking but _ give. many people have observed this to be very shocking but entirely - to be very shocking but entirely predictable. do you accept that? the channel are — predictable. do you accept that? tt2 channel are dangerous waters and people setting off in flimsy boats without proper life—saving gear, organised and facilitated by ruthless criminals. sadly, the dangers are obvious and yesterday's tragedy emphasises that. the real sad part of this is those who organise that bow yesterday would have viewed these people, at least 27 people who passed away, just as a profit—making opportunity and that is why we are determined to smash this model of this evil business. what are you going to do to change things in practical terms. we want to go further. we things in practical terms. we want to go further-— to go further. we are certainly ha- . to to go further. we are certainly happy to offer— to go further. we are certainly happy to offer resources - to go further. we are certainly happy to offer resources and l happy to offer resources and support. we see it as a shared problem, a british problem and we want to do things to an asylum system and increase the penalties for those involved in the trade in the long side from that we want to make sure that we do have a safe and legal roots from regions of conflict and may be opening up economic migration routes to those stuck in refugee camps in regions of conflict. there is a lot we want to do on this end and we particular want to get the nationality and borders bill through parliament and look to secure a return agreement with france, bilaterally, orwith the eu as a whole. tt with france, bilaterally, or with the eu as a whole.— with france, bilaterally, or with the eu as a whole. it sounds like ou, the eu as a whole. it sounds like you. kevin _ the eu as a whole. it sounds like you, kevin foster, _ the eu as a whole. it sounds like you, kevin foster, as— the eu as a whole. it sounds like. you, kevin foster, as immigration minister, what you intend to do is do more of what you are doing at the moment and what most observers say, maybe you included, you can tell me is that the current system doesn't work which is why 27 people died in the channel yesterday. so what are you going to do that is different? we need to break the business model of the people traffickers use and that means changing the law about how you arrive, whether it's illegally via this particular dangerous route in terms of the entitlements you get in future in the uk to reduce the incentives. with respect, mister foster, those people climbing on board the boats, if i may, those people climbing on board those boats as they did yesterday morning, they knew all the things you are talking about and they knew the problems they would face when they got to the uk to seek asylum but as we can see, and i don't know if you can see what we are looking at now, they are prepared to do that regardless. so i'm trying to work out what it is you are saying that will change those people taking that risk today, tomorrow, next week. the those people taking that risk today, tomorrow, next week.— those people taking that risk today, tomorrow, next week. the first thing is workin: tomorrow, next week. the first thing is working with _ tomorrow, next week. the first thing is working with france _ tomorrow, next week. the first thing is working with france and _ tomorrow, next week. the first thing is working with france and we - tomorrow, next week. the first thing is working with france and we have i is working with france and we have offered resources and we are happy to support their operation. hagar offered resources and we are happy to support their operation. how much mone ? to support their operation. how much money? we've _ to support their operation. how much money? we've already _ to support their operation. how much money? we've already agreed - to support their operation. how much money? we've already agreed a - money? we've already agreed a 54,000,000. — money? we've already agreed a 54,000,000. have _ money? we've already agreed a 54,000,000. have you - money? we've already agreed a 54,000,000. have you paid i money? we've already agreed a | 54,000,000. have you paid that mone ? 54,000,000. have you paid that money? we _ 54,000,000. have you paid that money? we have _ 54,000,000. have you paid that money? we have paid _ 54,000,000. have you paid that money? we have paid the - 54,000,000. have you paid thatj money? we have paid the money 54,000,000. have you paid that. money? we have paid the money to 54,000,000. have you paid that - money? we have paid the money to the french and we — money? we have paid the money to the french and we are _ money? we have paid the money to the french and we are also _ money? we have paid the money to the french and we are also prepared - money? we have paid the money to the french and we are also prepared to - french and we are also prepared to offer resources like yesterday we deployed a helicopter at their request to help with the search and rescue operation so we are prepared to notjust go on offering cash, we have to offer support as well because it's in nobody is interest for this to continue, not in the uk interest, not france's interest and not in the interests of those making those deadlyjourneys in the hands of people traffickers. tit those deadlyjourneys in the hands of people traffickers. tt t those deadly journeys in the hands of people traffickers.— of people traffickers. if i look at the comments, _ of people traffickers. if i look at the comments, the _ of people traffickers. if i look at the comments, the french - of people traffickers. if i look at i the comments, the french interior minister, who said he spoke to priti patel three days ago asking for more police officers, more cameras, more resources in general. he said that the contribution from britain remains minimal compared to the resources that we put in place. do you accept what he said? the home secretary will _ you accept what he said? the home secretary will speak _ you accept what he said? the home secretary will speak to _ you accept what he said? the home secretary will speak to her - secretary will speak to her counterpart later this morning and we are prepared to offer support on the ground and we are prepared to offer resources and prepared to offer resources and prepared to offer literally people to go there and help and assist the french authorities and we are clear that we don't see it as an issue that france needs to deal with, but one where we work together with france and the wider european partners because we only need to look at the situation in the mediterranean or eastern europe to see it's notjust an issue in the channel, to break the business model of these gangs and that includes things like securing returns agreements as well as the policing and law enforcement presence in calais. t5 policing and law enforcement presence in calais.— policing and law enforcement presence in calais. is one of the areas you _ presence in calais. is one of the areas you are — presence in calais. is one of the areas you are actively _ presence in calais. is one of the areas you are actively looking i presence in calais. is one of thej areas you are actively looking at now helping, financially or otherwise, the french set up. some kind of system in france whereby those people who are seeking to come to the uk could be processed in france? is that something you are actively pursuing? taste france? is that something you are actively pursuing?— france? is that something you are actively pursuing? we don't believe in encouraging _ actively pursuing? we don't believe in encouraging people _ actively pursuing? we don't believe in encouraging people to _ actively pursuing? we don't believe in encouraging people to make - in encouraging people to make journeys across the mediterranean which are equally dangerous and where thousands of people have lost their lives. we are looking at having safe and legal roots from the regions of conflict themselves. we evacuated 16,000 people from afghanistan in august and only last week you can see we welcomed an afghanistan women's football team who flew here on a visa, they did not need to engage in a dangerous journey. we are also looking to create more of our roots in terms of how we can support those people directly. and looking at europe and they are looking to tackle the issues on its own border and the loss of life in the mediterranean and it might stop stop people crossing the channel but ill discourage them or to put their lives at risk in the mediterranean. i thought what we were trying to do in the immediate term will stop people crossing the channel and there are reports already this morning and you will know that the weather has worsened today, and there are already reports of crossings continuing this morning. two boats from dover carrying about 40 people and what you are talking about sounds academic relative to the reality that people are getting in those boats this morning with worse weather, and you are changing nothing. worse weather, and you are changing nothinv. ., �* , worse weather, and you are changing nothinv. ., �*, ., nothing. charlie, there's nothing academic about _ nothing. charlie, there's nothing academic about the _ nothing. charlie, there's nothing academic about the number - nothing. charlie, there's nothing academic about the number of i nothing. charlie, there's nothing - academic about the number of people we evacuated from afghanistan on safe and legal roots. t’m we evacuated from afghanistan on safe and legal roots.— safe and legal roots. i'm talking about the crossings _ safe and legal roots. i'm talking about the crossings on - safe and legal roots. i'm talking about the crossings on the - safe and legal roots. i'm talking - about the crossings on the channel. there is nothing academic about the offers we made of extra support and we are prepared to put resources including border officers and for many years we've worked well with france in terms ofjuxtaposed controls were our border force on the french border police worked well together to secure the routes between our countries. but this isn't working- — between our countries. but this isn't working. i _ between our countries. but this isn't working. i think _ between our countries. but this isn't working. i think most - between our countries. but this i isn't working. i think most people who have used _ isn't working. i think most people who have used the _ isn't working. i think most people who have used the ferry - isn't working. i think most people who have used the ferry and - isn't working. i think most people who have used the ferry and rail l who have used the ferry and rail links think the juxtaposed controls work fairly well but what we now need to do is extend the approach to those making your regularjourneys across the channel, putting lives at risks and how we work together to break the business model. france has already this year stopped 20,000 crossings and we've seen 400 arrests and we have broken 17 organised criminal gangs but we can go further and we believe we can and work with our french colleagues including looking at options for return agreements. looking at options for return agreements-— looking at options for return agreements. looking at options for return avreements. ., . ., ., , ., agreements. how much more money are ou agreements. how much more money are you prepared _ agreements. how much more money are you prepared to _ agreements. how much more money are you prepared to put — agreements. how much more money are you prepared to put in? _ agreements. how much more money are you prepared to put in? i— agreements. how much more money are you prepared to put in? iwant— agreements. how much more money are you prepared to put in? i want to - you prepared to put in? i want to clarify something because i know you mentioned the figure of 54,000,000. have the french received that money in order that they can put more people on the ground across those 100km of coastline, have they received the money? the 100km of coastline, have they received the money? the funding has enabled them — received the money? the funding has enabled them to _ received the money? the funding has enabled them to receive _ received the money? the funding has enabled them to receive the - received the money? the funding has enabled them to receive the money. | enabled them to receive the money. how they received the money? the 54,000,000?— how they received the money? the 54,000,000? , ., . 54,000,000? they have received the mone as 54,000,000? they have received the money as we — 54,000,000? they have received the money as we have _ 54,000,000? they have received the money as we have agreed _ 54,000,000? they have received the money as we have agreed to - 54,000,000? they have received the money as we have agreed to pay - 54,000,000? they have received the. money as we have agreed to pay them. ijust money as we have agreed to pay them. i just want to be very clear. i money as we have agreed to pay them. ijust want to be very clear. i want to be clear about this. we i just want to be very clear. i want to be clear about this.— to be clear about this. we are prepared _ to be clear about this. we are prepared to — to be clear about this. we are prepared to offer _ to be clear about this. we are prepared to offer our - to be clear about this. we are prepared to offer our offices, | prepared to offer our offices, cutters, air assets and resources, so it's notjust a financial figure but we are prepared to offer resources, as yesterday when we deployed a uk helicopter into french water, i should say over french waters, to help with a search and rescue operation and it's about offering resources on personal and experience and we are very happy to work with the french to do that and that's above and beyond the agreements we have with them. just a tomm one agreements we have with them. just a tommy one straightforward _ agreements we have with them. just a tommy one straightforward thing and it's not about the cas and when it was announced about the money that would help and she made bold claims about bringing the crossing across the channel and these boats down to zero. and she said she would be a £54,000,000 to the french, so can i be clear, have they received the entirety of the £54,000,000 as it stands today. entirety of the £54,000,000 as it stands today-— entirety of the £54,000,000 as it stands today. entirety of the £54,000,000 as it stands toda . . �* ., ., stands today. we've agreed to pay in instalments — stands today. we've agreed to pay in instalments and _ stands today. we've agreed to pay in instalments and made _ stands today. we've agreed to pay in instalments and made the _ stands today. we've agreed to pay in instalments and made the payments| stands today. we've agreed to pay in i instalments and made the payments as we agreed to pay and as we will discuss later date with the french to, as we touched on, they have stopped 20,000 crossings this year and broken 17 organised criminal gangs working with the french, so to be honest there is a lot of work being done already but we need to step that up further and we are keen to work with france, prepared to offer resources on top of money and offer resources on top of money and of course, to look at whether we can get a returns agreement which would ultimately smash the business model of the people trafficking gang. there is a lot of those people focused on the gangs in the individuals operating that but in terms of what they are caught, if they are convicted, what charges do you think they should face and what kind ofjail terms should they face? as you said yourself, a lot of this about sending messages for the risks people of our taking including those criminals trying to do this. absolutely. we are clear we want to increase the penalties and we want to ensure that the maximum sentence can be up to life imprisonment for those who view humans as nothing more, literally view people as nothing more than a profitable cargo that they are happy to put out immense risk. that is in our nationally tea and borders bill and we want to get it through parliament and it will be easier to get it through if we have the support of the main opposition parties for it but we are determined we want to send out a clear message of what we were think of those who engage in this despicable behaviour and put peoples lives at risk with the tragic consequences we saw yesterday. tragic consequences we saw yesterday-— tragic consequences we saw esterda . .,, ., ., yesterday. kevin foster, immigration minister, thank _ yesterday. kevin foster, immigration minister, thank you _ yesterday. kevin foster, immigration minister, thank you for _ yesterday. kevin foster, immigration minister, thank you for your - yesterday. kevin foster, immigration minister, thank you for your time - minister, thank you for your time this morning. mike will bring us up to date the sport. and success for english teams in the champions league. the build—up was like movie stars were coming to town with their awesome front three. but in the end of it flat, their collective sum of parts, theirfight, their edge and manchester city were missing some of their own big names but they outplayed psg winning 2— one and it means they win their champions league group although psg had taken the lead, city fought back with goals from raheem sterling and gabrieljesus. the french club are through to the next round but city will have the advantage is they are seeded for the first knockout round. in general we made a top performance and we are happy to be in the next stage and congratulations to the team and everyone in the club. for many years in a row, being in the last 16 and ourfocus in many years in a row, being in the last 16 and our focus in the many years in a row, being in the last 16 and ourfocus in the premier league and in february we will arrive in the best condition to qualify for the finals. liverpool were already assured of going through as group winners but last night they made it a perfect 5 wins out of 5 beating porto 2—0,. a review of the way football is run in england has concluded an independent regulator is needed to put the sport on a sounder financial footing and give fans more say in the way the teams they support are run. the government set up the review after six big premier league clubs tried to form a breakaway european super league — while at the same time many clubs in lower divisions were in severe financial hardship. people are saying no more. this is about ensuring that vested interests are removed from football and that football can start to become something that is sustainable for the long—term future of the english game and that is why we are setting out today these structures, these recommendations that will actually completely change the landscape for football regulation.— football regulation. ronnie 0'sullivan _ football regulation. ronnie 0'sullivan says _ football regulation. ronnie 0'sullivan says he - football regulation. ronnie 0'sullivan says he prefersl football regulation. ronnie - 0'sullivan says he prefers watching snooker to them playing it but he got through to the second round of the uk snooker championship and it means he will have to play again after surviving a challenging match with michael white before eventually winning 6— three and 0 with michael white before eventually winning 6— three and o sullivan refused to be drawn on the other issue dominating snooker, some of snooker is big names have backed shaun murphy over the claim that amateurs should not be played ? allowed to be played in tournaments. murphy was knocked out of the uk championship by the 19—year—old chinese amateur si jiahui and said afterwards that that young man should not be in the tournament but the world snooker tour said it disagreed with his comments but neil robertson and mark selby and mark williams have all said they agree with murphy and he is certainly not standing down. i'v e i've seen today how the story has blown up and is still trending and all the rest of it and it is madness, really, from my point of view but for me there has to be a line. if there is no distinction between the pro tours and the amateur tours, vets have one big tour then. and i think amateurs, very good amateurs, by the way, standing in front of and potentially being banana skins for professional players who are living this way is a problem. players who are living this way is a nroblem. ., ,, ., ., ~' players who are living this way is a nroblem. ., ,, ., ., ~ ., problem. the world snooker tour disa . reed problem. the world snooker tour disagreed saying _ problem. the world snooker tour disagreed saying that _ problem. the world snooker tour disagreed saying that he - problem. the world snooker tourl disagreed saying that he deserved his place, sijiahui, even though he is an amateur his results absolutely justify his position and getting into play the professionals on this occasion but the other argument we have heard is that it is their livelihoods. you've spent years to qualify going through the process to become a professional and it is their livelihoods at risk. interesting seeing it in other sports because you have amateurs playing in golf and in individual tournaments as well. it will rumble on. let's take a look at the weather. carol has the details now. we have a blast of winter coming our way over the next few days and it will be cold, colder than it has been on saturday in particular there are risks of gales and spells of rain, sleet and snow and we are not going to all see snow but i will tell you more about that as we go through the forecast. it's a cold start of the starting with frost and a lot of clear skies and a a lot of sunshine around and windy along the coast in particular where the strongest wind and they are blowing in showers. most of the showers will be of rain but we could see some wintry showers continuing across the northern half of scotland and some winching this over the hills of northern ireland and the north york moors but has become along the coast of wales and south—west and eastern england there will be rain showers but again, as we come south, similar picture and a lot of dry, clear, crisp and sunny conditions but feeling cold. to give you an idea of the temperatures, these are the expected maximum is between four and nine and may be ten in the channel islands. by the end of the afternoon you can see the clouds gathering and rain arriving a cross the far north—west with some wintry fields and that will push south through the course of the night but behind it scattered showers incredibly wintry in lower levels in scotland and under the clear skies will be told ? cold enough for a touch of frost on the wind will strengthen across scotland, northern ireland and the irish sea and as we go through tomorrow the brightness on the far south—east will be quickly eradicated by the weather front sinking south and taking its rain and if we follow the weather front back to the north of scotland, we will see further snow down to sea levels with some of the showers wintry on the hills. the met office on friday has a weather warning for wind across scotland, northern ireland and parts of northern england and we could have gales, even severe gales more likely around the coasts. this low pressure is what is driving the weather as we go through friday and into the weekend. the exact positioning will determine what you get, so where the strongest winds will be and where we see the sleet and snow, so on current thinking on friday evening the strongest wind will be out towards the west and you can tell that from the west and you can tell that from the spacing of the isobars. if we pick that up and go through friday night, you can see how the rain, sleet and snow bushes further south and some of that will get down to low levels especially in the highlands and with the strong winds, there could be blizzards around as well. that moves down towards the south—east through the course of saturday. very windy and the met office has a yellow wind warning for almost the whole of the uk except the south—east and again gales, severe gales with exposure but although it will be bitterly cold on saturday, things calm down a bit during the course of sunday. carol, thank you very much. most families have at least a couple of younger members who love to put on a show and it seems that the royal family are no different. a new exhibition at windsor castle reveals how the queen — who was then princess elizabeth — and her sister princess margaret used to love producing their own pantomimes when they were teenagers. our royal correspondent daniela relph went to have a look. windsor castle is christmas ready. it's trees are decorated, its ground state rooms dressed. and this year the castle is taking visitors back 80 years to the day when a pair of teenage girls who lived here tried to lift spirits during the christmases of the second world war. princess elizabeth, as she was then, and her sister, princess elizabeth, as she was then, and hersister, princess princess elizabeth, as she was then, and her sister, princess margaret, created an annual royal pantomime. for the first time, some of their costumes have come out of the archive and on display. the two princesses were always star performers. the shows were staged in this room, the waterloo chamber and the audience were castle staff, the local school, troops and the king and queen. money from ticket sold was used to make blankets for soldiers on the front line. i know you were in the grand surroundings of windsor castle but there is something quite ordinary about putting on a show for your family and friends. putting on a show for your family and friends-— putting on a show for your family and friends. yes, ordinary up to a noint. and friends. yes, ordinary up to a point- they _ and friends. yes, ordinary up to a point. they were _ and friends. yes, ordinary up to a point. they were supported - and friends. yes, ordinary up to a point. they were supported by i and friends. yes, ordinary up to a i point. they were supported by sound technicians that came specially from the bbc, special set designers, but that was very much blended with that kind of home—made element as well, so while the performances looked very grand and beautiful, it was very grand and beautiful, it was very much a home—grown spirit to it all. very much a home-grown spirit to it all. ., , ., very much a home-grown spirit to it all. ., ., ,, ., all. the pantos or woes showed the stron . er all. the pantos or woes showed the stronger sibling _ all. the pantos or woes showed the stronger sibling bond. _ all. the pantos or woes showed the stronger sibling bond. onstage, - all. the pantos or woes showed the stronger sibling bond. onstage, inl strongersibling bond. onstage, in costume, elizabeth and margaret were a formidable partnership and privately they were a vital support system for one another. they were often away from their parents, having moved out of london during the war. and the evacuee experiences part of this christmas display. the paintings of fairy tale characters that provided a backdrop to the pantos were designed by an art student evacuated to windsor. his story will be brought to life for younger visitors to the castle. many, many years ago, when the blitz had hit london i was an evacuee and i came here to windsor castle. i think pantomimes are very relatable to children's and families, especially around this time of year and it's also a story about finding the best in hard times, which i think we can all relate to in the last couple of years. shes think we can all relate to in the last couple of years.— think we can all relate to in the last couple of years. as the queen heads into her _ last couple of years. as the queen heads into her 70th _ last couple of years. as the queen heads into her 70th year _ last couple of years. as the queen heads into her 70th year on - last couple of years. as the queen heads into her 70th year on the i heads into her 70th year on the throne, the panto display is a reminder of christmases here at the castle during a unique time in her life. before she had taken on the responsibilities of monarch. it is a snapshot of a royal childhood, of how christmas at the castle tried to bring some festive cheer to the dark days of war. pa nto panto season, christmas party season. charlie loves parting, i love golf, so ben thought, how can i combine the two to keep us happy. hello? you would love the two to keep us happy. hello? gm. would love this place. i know you are a very competitive when it comes to golf, so let me see if i can get this in, but good morning, we are in swingers in west london, a crazy golf place. i did that badly and this place would normally be packed full of people because it's christmas parties and big workgroups and those djs and drinks and all sorts of things going on and bookings are back up and lots of businesses in the hospitality industry that's been struggling for the last 20 months because of the pandemic restrictions, they are welcoming people back through their doors and bookings are back up. not quite to the levels before the pandemic but nonetheless things are looking up. but there is a problem in so much as there might be a few smaller groups but maybe not as much planning and people coming on the spur of the moment because they are worried about coming to places like this, perhaps, but also one of the problems is the fact they don't have enough staff and the hospitality industry, short of 200,000 staff and they are really struggling to fill they are really struggling to fill the jobs and it means lots of firms are not able to take the bookings they would like to operate at full capacity, including simon's hotel business in west yorkshire and he's told us he is having to turn away a lot of bookings because he does not have the staff.— have the staff. whilst we find a busy summer _ have the staff. whilst we find a busy summer and _ have the staff. whilst we find a busy summer and it's - have the staff. whilst we find a busy summer and it's been - have the staff. whilst we find a busy summer and it's been a i have the staff. whilst we find a - busy summer and it's been a great season— busy summer and it's been a great season and — busy summer and it's been a great season and demand has been very, very good, — season and demand has been very, very good, we are still playing catch — very good, we are still playing catch up _ very good, we are still playing catch up. we desperately need a good christmas, _ catch up. we desperately need a good christmas, partly to play catch up and also — christmas, partly to play catch up and also to — christmas, partly to play catch up and also to put some money in the bank— and also to put some money in the bank to— and also to put some money in the bank to get— and also to put some money in the bank to get us through the first quarter— bank to get us through the first quarter safely. the business plan is looking _ quarter safely. the business plan is looking very good. the christmas numbers” — looking very good. the christmas numbers,, they are up on previous years— numbers,, they are up on previous years and — numbers,, they are up on previous years and there's definitely an appetite — years and there's definitely an appetite and demand for the public to get— appetite and demand for the public to get out— appetite and demand for the public to get out and enjoy this christmas. talking _ to get out and enjoy this christmas. talking to _ to get out and enjoy this christmas. talking to colleagues in the industry— talking to colleagues in the industry there is a nervousness about— industry there is a nervousness about having enough staff for the really _ about having enough staff for the really busy nights, fridays, saturdays but overall it's encouraging and the demand seems to be there _ encouraging and the demand seems to be there and people seem to be looking — be there and people seem to be looking forward to a really good christmas this year. so looking forward to a really good christmas this year.— christmas this year. so that is simon's view _ christmas this year. so that is simon's view from _ christmas this year. so that is simon's view from west - christmas this year. so that is - simon's view from west yorkshire. let's introduce you to matt who runs this place. good morning to you. we were talking about bookings being back up and people coming back to places like this. hahn back up and people coming back to places like this.— places like this. how are you vvettin places like this. how are you getting on?- _ places like this. how are you getting on?. good _ places like this. how are you getting on?. good news - places like this. how are you - getting on?. good news because we had a _ getting on?. good news because we had a difficult last couple of years but this— had a difficult last couple of years but this year we got back open in june and — but this year we got back open in june and confidence slowly crept into the — june and confidence slowly crept into the market and we got to october— into the market and we got to october and suddenly christmas bookings started happening and the sales team got busy and now december is looking _ sales team got busy and now december is looking really busy and we will have _ is looking really busy and we will have a _ is looking really busy and we will have a christmas season. christmas view is one — have a christmas season. christmas view is one of— have a christmas season. christmas view is one of the _ have a christmas season. christmas view is one of the most _ have a christmas season. christmas view is one of the most important i view is one of the most important time of the year, maybe the money you don't make injanuary and february but it's also about big workgroups and parties coming to somewhere like this.— workgroups and parties coming to somewhere like this. absolutely. we are doinv a somewhere like this. absolutely. we are doing a lot _ somewhere like this. absolutely. we are doing a lot more _ somewhere like this. absolutely. we are doing a lot more in _ somewhere like this. absolutely. we are doing a lot more in the _ somewhere like this. absolutely. we are doing a lot more in the way - somewhere like this. absolutely. we are doing a lot more in the way of. are doing a lot more in the way of smaller— are doing a lot more in the way of smaller bookings and we tend to be full for— smaller bookings and we tend to be full for the — smaller bookings and we tend to be full for the whole of december and when _ full for the whole of december and when we _ full for the whole of december and when we look at the mix during 2019 it's made _ when we look at the mix during 2019 it's made up— when we look at the mix during 2019 it's made up of a lot more small bookings— it's made up of a lot more small bookings but the good news is there are still— bookings but the good news is there are still the book ? big bookings in there _ are still the book ? big bookings in there so— are still the book ? big bookings in there so if— are still the book ? big bookings in there so if you hire swingers on an exclusive — there so if you hire swingers on an exclusive hire, it's about 500 people — exclusive hire, it's about 500 people and there is a good number of people _ people and there is a good number of people doing that taking over the whole _ people doing that taking over the whole venue and they are happy to net whole venue and they are happy to get the _ whole venue and they are happy to get the teams in one place and celebrate — get the teams in one place and celebrate christmas. we get the teams in one place and celebrate christmas.— get the teams in one place and celebrate christmas. we were talking about a shortage _ celebrate christmas. we were talking about a shortage of _ celebrate christmas. we were talking about a shortage of staff— celebrate christmas. we were talking about a shortage of staff and - celebrate christmas. we were talking about a shortage of staff and for- celebrate christmas. we were talking about a shortage of staff and for a i about a shortage of staff and for a lot of hospitality businesses that is a real problem, as we heard in west yorkshire, having to turn away customers. how are you coping and do you have the staff you need? th you have the staff you need? in december we need more staff on the floor to _ december we need more staff on the floor to cater to demand so we up the staff— floor to cater to demand so we up the staff numbers and at the moment we are _ the staff numbers and at the moment we are about 7% down on floor staff of where _ we are about 7% down on floor staff of where we — we are about 7% down on floor staff of where we need to be so we have to make _ of where we need to be so we have to make some _ of where we need to be so we have to make some strategic decisions about how we _ make some strategic decisions about how we operate through december and it means _ how we operate through december and it means for— how we operate through december and it means for us on a couple of mondays _ it means for us on a couple of mondays in both of our venues in london _ mondays in both of our venues in london we — mondays in both of our venues in london we won't be able to open, so overall— london we won't be able to open, so overall we _ london we won't be able to open, so overall we are really lucky and it could _ overall we are really lucky and it could be — overall we are really lucky and it could be worse but we do have to factor _ could be worse but we do have to factor in — could be worse but we do have to factor in that very real impact that one day— factor in that very real impact that one day out— factor in that very real impact that one day out of seven we cannot get open _ one day out of seven we cannot get open when — one day out of seven we cannot get open when there is the demand and customers— open when there is the demand and customers and we would like to be open _ customers and we would like to be open on _ customers and we would like to be open on those days.— customers and we would like to be open on those days. matt, good luck and a really — open on those days. matt, good luck and a really busy _ open on those days. matt, good luck and a really busy time _ open on those days. matt, good luck and a really busy time of _ open on those days. matt, good luck and a really busy time of the - open on those days. matt, good luck and a really busy time of the year i and a really busy time of the year but nice to see you and thanks very much and as matt was saying, a far cry from what they saw this time last year with lots of patchy restrictions and problems to contend with, so let me see if i can have another go at this and getting through. not quite. not up to standard. ., through. not quite. not up to standard-— through. not quite. not up to standard. ., ., �* i] through. not quite. not up to standard. ., ., �* m standard. nowhere near, ben. i knew ou would standard. nowhere near, ben. i knew you would say— standard. nowhere near, ben. i knew you would say that. _ standard. nowhere near, ben. i knew you would say that. thanks _ standard. nowhere near, ben. i knew you 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in a moment. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today. britain and france agree to step up efforts to stop people crossing the channel. 27 men, women and a child drowned when their boat sank as they tried to reach the uk. the french government is holding crisis talks this morning. police there have arrested a fifth man in connection with the tragedy. we'll be hearing from the people trying to reach the uk about why they're willing to risk their lives crossing the world's busiest shipping lane in inflatable boats. where are you going now? the uk. english football needs an independent regulator to stop it "lurching from crisis to crisis". that's according to a fan—led review into the sport. another fantastic night for english clubs in the champions league. victories for manchester city and liverpool as both win their groups and city's sterling outshines messi and co. and the fab four as they once were. a new documentary featuring hours of unseen footage of the beatles is released roday. we'll hear from the director peterjackson. a cold start of the day but for many of us, it is going to be dry, crisp and sunny, but there are showers crown the coasts where it windy. wintry showers on the hills in scotland and then a period of potentially disruptive weather. all of the details later on. it's thursday the 25th of november. two more boats have crossed the english channel illegally this morning just hours after 27 people drowned off the coast of northern france yesterday. the prime minister and president macron of france have pledged to step up joint efforts to smash the smuggling gangs. a fifth suspected trafficker has been arrested in france overnight. jon donnison reports. along the northern french coast, the search for the missing went on after dark. but with temperatures in single digits, the chance of finding anyone alive increasingly remote. at least 27 bodies have been recovered. the biggest loss of life in the channel since it became the preferred route of people traffickers. translation: the first people responsible for this despicable | situation are the smugglers. that is to say, criminals who, for a few thousand euros, organise the trafficking of human beings from iraq, afghanistan, africa and asia. it's thought around 25 boats like this set off from the beaches of northern france yesterday. where are you going now? the uk. this one, we know, made it across the channel, but it's a treacherous journey, across one of the world's busiest shipping lanes. this disaster underscores how dangerous it is to cross the channel in this way. and it also shows how vital it is that we now step up our efforts to break the business model of the gangsters who are sending people to sea in this way. last night, the government's cobra emergency committee met, and the prime minister held an urgent phone call with the french president emmanuel macron. downing street said the two men agreed to step up joint efforts in calais last night, people demanding refugees be better treated held a vigil for those who died. after a year of record numbers crossing the channel, people on all sides of the argument have warned this was a tragedy waiting to happen. jon donnison, bbc news. we'll speak to jessica parker in calais shortly. but first let'sjoin simon jones in dover. good morning. i know there are reports, and you have access to information in connection with more boats arriving this morning, or which have been intercepted, tell us what you know. which have been intercepted, tell us what you know-— what you know. yes, the weather is takinv what you know. yes, the weather is takin: a what you know. yes, the weather is taking a turn _ what you know. yes, the weather is taking a turn for— what you know. yes, the weather is taking a turn for the _ what you know. yes, the weather is taking a turn for the worst, - what you know. yes, the weather is taking a turn for the worst, it's - taking a turn for the worst, it's getting very windy out there at sea, the rain is coming down, it's extremely cold. but despite that, two more boats have managed to reach uk what is this morning. i understand they were picked up by the lifeboat in the early hours, i'm told 40 people were on board the boats. it shows the desire to get to the uk remains, despite the deaths of those 27 people in french waters yesterday. i think ultimately, the authorities here were expecting as we went into the autumn for the numbers of people attempting the crossing to come down quite dramatically, but that hasn't happened at all. in fact so far this month, more than 600 —— 6000 people have managed to reach the uk by boat, far greater than the figures this time last year. i think it reflects that this route across the channel has become an all year round route, because it is so lucrative for the people to smugglers organising the crossings. i think the people smugglers are getting paid around £3000 each by the migrants. when you add that up, sometimes 20,30, migrants. when you add that up, sometimes 20, 30, 40 boats being launched on the same day, you can see why this is such a big business. ultimately for the politicians this will now need to focus minds. in terms of what happened yesterday, the search operation has now been called off, hopes of finding any survivors from that are now gone. thank you, simon. our europe correspondent jessica parker is in calais. ican i can see the wind blowing, it is cold where you are, simon was describing what it is like in dover as well. but yet, we know there are still crossings being made and we know that the french are holding crisis talks, but almost to what end? crisis talks have been held for months or years to tackle this problem. months or years to tackle this nroblem. ., ., ., ., , problem. you are right, naga, this issue is not — problem. you are right, naga, this issue is not new. _ problem. you are right, naga, this issue is not new. an _ problem. you are right, naga, this issue is not new. an incredibly - problem. you are right, naga, this issue is not new. an incredibly wetj issue is not new. an incredibly wet and windy morning here in calais. it france over as in the uk there have been expressions of sadness and grief and condolence for the victims and theirfamilies, but it has inevitably left this question of what can be done next. there is an emergency meeting of the french government going on, and last night emmanuel macron, the french president, released a statement calling for an emergency meeting of european ministers, reinforcements as well, reinforced support for the eu? external borders. he has been emphasising that from france's point of view, this is a shared response for that he, notjust an issue in france. he has also emphasised it is a shared issue with the uk, emmanuel macron spoke with the uk prime minister borisjohnson last night. the french have faced some criticism for how it has managed this issue here, what you hearfrom french officials and people here is that they have hundreds of police deployed along an extensive stretch of coastline, that migrants, people are determined to try and reach the united kingdom. ithink are determined to try and reach the united kingdom. i think these concert —— conversations will carry on today about what can be done. there is emphasis from the french that it there is emphasis from the french thatitis there is emphasis from the french that it is in their view a shared responsibility but whoever is responsible to it is, there will be increased pressure to act. our political correspondent damian grammaticas is in westminster. the question looms large, what can be done differently to try to make sure this does not happen again. yes, and it is the key question. the uk has been talking to france for some time, just ten days ago priti patel had a conversation with her french counterpart talking about stepped measures. the home secretary has the nationality and borders bill going through parliament which seeks to make it illegal to make these crossings, that could face international legal challenges because people have a right to seek asylum. the uk has been giving a lot of money, and what we see now is the uk stepping up calls to send more personnel across the channel to help the french. tote personnel across the channel to help the french. ~ ., personnel across the channel to help the french. . ., , ., the french. we are prepared to offer su- nort on the french. we are prepared to offer support on the _ the french. we are prepared to offer support on the ground, _ the french. we are prepared to offer support on the ground, we _ the french. we are prepared to offer support on the ground, we are - support on the ground, we are prepared — support on the ground, we are prepared to offer resources, literativ— prepared to offer resources, literally people to go there and help assist the french authorities. we are _ help assist the french authorities. we are clear we don'tjust see this as an _ we are clear we don'tjust see this as an issue — we are clear we don'tjust see this as an issue that france is to deal with but— as an issue that france is to deal with but one we want to work together— with but one we want to work together with france and our wiring -- wider— together with france and our wiring —— wider european partners. you only need _ —— wider european partners. you only need to— —— wider european partners. you only need to have — —— wider european partners. you only need to have a — —— wider european partners. you only need to have a look at the situation in the _ need to have a look at the situation in the mediterranean to see this is notjust— in the mediterranean to see this is notjust an — in the mediterranean to see this is notjust an issue in in the mediterranean to see this is not just an issue in the in the mediterranean to see this is notjust an issue in the channel. to break— notjust an issue in the channel. to break the _ notjust an issue in the channel. to break the business model of these gangs _ break the business model of these gangs. we break the business model of these hans. ~ ., break the business model of these hans, . ., ., break the business model of these ans. ~ ., ., ., break the business model of these ans. . ., ., , gangs. we have had about breaking their business _ gangs. we have had about breaking their business model _ gangs. we have had about breaking their business model many - gangs. we have had about breaking their business model many times i gangs. we have had about breaking i their business model many times from uk ministers. the alternative that people say that should be looked at as a possibility is rather than criminalising this, looking at opening up safe and legal roots which means that people do not have to take to the boats. kevin foster did say today, talking to bbc breakfast, that they wanted to open up breakfast, that they wanted to open up economic migration routes to those stuck in camps and ensure people have safe and legal routes. we will wait to see if there is more on that. ., ., we will wait to see if there is more on that. ., ,, , ., we will wait to see if there is more on that. ., ~' , ., , we will wait to see if there is more on that. ., ,, i. , . what needs to happen to prevent another tragedy from unfolding on the channel? we're joined now by the mp for calais, pierre—henri dumont, as well as kevin saunders, the former chief immigration officer for the uk border force. gentlemen, good morning both. could you tell me what you know, pierre—henri dumont, about what is happening this morning? we understand there are crisis talks, to what end? what would be the result of those, a good result? well, good morning. no one knows what will come up from this discussion. what we know is that was a drama, it was the biggest drama that we faced in the channel last night. that did not the smugglers putting a small boat to see, seeing all these dead bodies. ijust had reports that in the last few hours, during the night, maybe ten to 20 small boats were sent at sea, even if dead bodies were found. so it's a huge problem. we all know that. what happened yesterday was what we feared for months now. and i think it is really time for both our governments to stop blaming each other and to try to talk to each other and to try to talk to each other and to try to talk to each other and find real solutions. what a crazy solutions such as more people —— not crazy solutions like having more and more people here, and having the british army on french shores, that's not acceptable and will not change anything. tonfhdt and will not change anything. what will make a — and will not change anything. what will make a difference? _ and will not change anything. what will make a difference? we have heard promises and pushback from both sides. in your opinion, what will make difference, what is a practical solution? for will make difference, what is a practical solution?— will make difference, what is a practical solution? for the british side, i think— practical solution? for the british side, i think two _ practical solution? for the british side, i think two points. - practical solution? for the british side, i think two points. the - practical solution? for the british side, i think two points. the first| side, i think two points. the first one would be to have a safe route, safe passage for migrants. by giving them the opportunity to apply for asylum in france or germany. for asylum in france or germany. for asylum in france or germany. for asylum in the uk. because right now to apply for asylum as a migrant, you have to have toast ? macro both feetin you have to have toast ? macro both feet in the uk. —— you need to have both feet in the uk. the uk processed 30,000 last year, —— in 2019, but the french process 120,000, that is not logical. the first point should be for british authorities to allow migrants to apply for asylum in the uk even if they are not in the uk. the second point should be to make it harder for illegal migrants to find a job and has the uk. it is a question of, it is easierfor them and has the uk. it is a question of, it is easier for them to be illegal in the uk than to be illegal in france, because of easy legislation on work and housing, etc. then the french authorities had a huge role to play. that's why i am advocating for the two governments, in the next few months, once a migrant is in calais, it's too late. because he can see the british sure, the lights. they will try to cross. we need to send these migrants into welcome centres hundreds of kilometres away from the shore, and give them shelter, to take them out of the deadly hands of smugglers, make them understand that they need to apply for asylum in france, and with the new system i am advocating for in the uk. and if they do not want to apply for asylum, or if they were denied asylum, they then can be sent back by plane.— sent back by plane. kevin saunders, former chief — sent back by plane. kevin saunders, former chief immigration _ sent back by plane. kevin saunders, former chief immigration officer - sent back by plane. kevin saunders, former chief immigration officer for| former chief immigration officer for the uk border force, unfortunately as pierre—henri dumont says, this was inevitable and predictable, it was inevitable and predictable, it was warned about happening. what can prevent this from happening again? good morning. yes, it's awful, it's absolutely— good morning. yes, it's awful, it's absolutely awful. and yes, we have been _ absolutely awful. and yes, we have been warning that this would happen for the _ been warning that this would happen for the last year. what we really do need _ for the last year. what we really do need to— for the last year. what we really do need to do— for the last year. what we really do need to do is work closer with the french _ need to do is work closer with the french the — need to do is work closer with the french. the big thing that we could do together, which i don't think would _ do together, which i don't think would upset french sovereignty, would _ would upset french sovereignty, would have patrols in the channel. the french— would have patrols in the channel. the french have their own force which _ the french have their own force which is — the french have their own force which is a — the french have their own force which is a very efficient organisation, they have lots of boats — organisation, they have lots of boats and _ organisation, they have lots of boats and aeroplanes. if we could work _ boats and aeroplanes. if we could work with — boats and aeroplanes. if we could work with them in the channel, perhaps— work with them in the channel, perhaps using the royal navy from our side, _ perhaps using the royal navy from our side, that would make a difference. that would certainly make _ difference. that would certainly make a — difference. that would certainly make a difference. in the longer term, _ make a difference. in the longer term, we — make a difference. in the longer term, we have got to look at... sorry— term, we have got to look at... sorry for— term, we have got to look at... sorry for interrupting, just the practicalities of what happens in the channel, the home secretary priti patel has made clear she wants the uk border force to be able to turn back boats carrying migrants across the english channel in certain circumstances. practically, where and how does that work, and over which part, who has jurisdiction over what at the moment? tt jurisdiction over what at the moment?— jurisdiction over what at the moment? it is very difficult. turnin: moment? it is very difficult. turning boats _ moment? it is very difficult. turning boats around - moment? it is very difficult. turning boats around is - moment? it is very difficult. turning boats around is a i moment? it is very difficult. i turning boats around is a little moment? it is very difficult. - turning boats around is a little bit of a red _ turning boats around is a little bit of a red herring, turning boats around is a little bit ofa red herring, ithink. i can't see _ ofa red herring, ithink. i can't see border— ofa red herring, ithink. i can't see border force officers being prepared — see border force officers being prepared to push boats back. the channel _ prepared to push boats back. the channel is — prepared to push boats back. the channel is a very fickle bit of sea, it is not— channel is a very fickle bit of sea, it is not the — channel is a very fickle bit of sea, it is not the ionian sea where the home _ it is not the ionian sea where the home secretary saw the greeks do it. it's a different bit of sea and it's very— it's a different bit of sea and it's very dangerous. and if there was a tragedy— very dangerous. and if there was a tragedy doing that, we would be really— tragedy doing that, we would be really in — tragedy doing that, we would be really in trouble. so i don't think fishing _ really in trouble. so i don't think fishing boats back is the answer. it's working with the —— pushing boats— it's working with the —— pushing boats back— it's working with the —— pushing boats back if the answer. it is working — boats back if the answer. it is working with the french in the channet — working with the french in the channel. ., ., ., ., , channel. you are to a second point to prevent — channel. you are to a second point to prevent this _ channel. you are to a second point to prevent this happening - channel. you are to a second point to prevent this happening again? l to prevent this happening again? longer term, we have got to have offshore _ longer term, we have got to have offshore reception centres for these people _ offshore reception centres for these people. the draw to the uk is phenomenal, they want to come here. because _ phenomenal, they want to come here. because basically everything is free _ because basically everything is free. and that's the attraction. that's— free. and that's the attraction. that's why— free. and that's the attraction. that's why they wants to come, they can get— that's why they wants to come, they can get housing, education, money, everything — can get housing, education, money, eve hinv. �* , , can get housing, education, money, eve hint. , , ~' everything. because they are seeking as lum? everything. because they are seeking asylum? her--- _ everything. because they are seeking asylum? her... what _ everything. because they are seeking asylum? her... what is _ everything. because they are seeking asylum? her... what is that - everything. because they are seeking asylum? her... what is that chechen | asylum? her... what is that chechen mean? -- — asylum? her... what is that chechen mean? "just— asylum? her... what is that chechen mean? --justyet— asylum? her... what is that chechen mean? -- just yet mean? _ asylum? her. .. what is that chechen mean? -- just yet mean? i- asylum? her. .. what is that chechen mean? -- just yet mean? i was- asylum? her... what is that chechen mean? -- just yet mean? i was in i mean? -- 'ust yet mean? i was in france for— mean? -- just yet mean? i was in france for 16 _ mean? -- just yet mean? i was in france for 16 years _ mean? -- just yet mean? i was in france for 16 years pulling - mean? -- just yet mean? i was in france for 16 years pulling people | france for 16 years pulling people out of _ france for 16 years pulling people out of lorries. most of the people that i_ out of lorries. most of the people that i dealt with were not asylum seekers, — that i dealt with were not asylum seekers, they were economic migrants _ seekers, they were economic migrants. i think it is a little bit disingenuous for some people who have never— disingenuous for some people who have never met a migrant in their life to _ have never met a migrant in their life to say— have never met a migrant in their life to say that they are all asylum psych _ life to say that they are all asylum psych and — life to say that they are all asylum psych and seekers —— asylum seekers. a lot of— psych and seekers —— asylum seekers. a lot of them — psych and seekers —— asylum seekers. a lot of them are just plain economic migrants.- a lot of them are just plain economic migrants. a lot of them are just plain economic mivrants. . ., ., ,., .,, economic migrants. what about those who aren't like _ economic migrants. what about those who aren't like the _ economic migrants. what about those who aren't like the child _ economic migrants. what about those who aren't like the child who - economic migrants. what about those who aren't like the child who died - who aren't like the child who died on that boat yesterday? t who aren't like the child who died on that boat yesterday?— who aren't like the child who died on that boat yesterday? i mean, i'm not sa in: on that boat yesterday? i mean, i'm not saying that _ on that boat yesterday? i mean, i'm not saying that everybody _ on that boat yesterday? i mean, i'm not saying that everybody is - on that boat yesterday? i mean, i'm not saying that everybody is an - not saying that everybody is an economic— not saying that everybody is an economic migrant. but a lot of them are. economic migrant. but a lot of them are perhaps— economic migrant. but a lot of them are. perhaps the eu ought to get more _ are. perhaps the eu ought to get more involved with reception centres in europe _ more involved with reception centres in europe to — more involved with reception centres in europe to deal with these people. that's— in europe to deal with these people. that's another possibility. pierre—henri dumont, as crisis talks begin this morning in france particularly, do you have any hint that perhaps something practical may come out of this, be it more patrols or more cooperation between the uk and france? t or more cooperation between the uk and france?— and france? i don't know yet what will come out _ and france? i don't know yet what will come out from _ and france? i don't know yet what will come out from this _ and france? i don't know yet what will come out from this meeting. l will come out from this meeting. what i can assure you is that having more money, or having more police officers patrolling, on the french are sure, will not change anything. it will not change anything because we have got 300 kilometres to monitor 24—7 and it only takes ten minutes for smidl is to take a boat to see full of migrants. —— smugglers to take about two this evil of migrants. in the migrants are in calais, they will find a way to cross, it's too late. we cannot have thousands of police officers patrolling the seashore. the only answer coming from this awful tragedy is for the brits to give us more money for the french authorities to have more people patrolling the french sure, but that will not change anything. nothing will not change anything. nothing will change. and we are still going to have dead bodies in the channel. it is a sobering and very stark situation, and it obviously needs urgent attention. pierre—henri dumont, french national assembly memberfor calais, thank you. kevin saunders, former chief officer for uk border force, thank you for your time this morning. lewis goodall visited calais to report on the situation there, as we've heard this morning, the tragedy in the channel has not stopped other people from trying to make that perilous 30—mile voyage. so what drives them to risk their lives to reach the uk? just before the events of yesterday, bbc newsnight�*s lewis goodall visited calais to find out. hejoins us now from dover. good morning. it is a sobering thought as we look behind you at that stretch of water, we know today the weather is worse, and you have seen first hand those people climbing into those boats and making thatjourney. climbing into those boats and making that “ourne . ~ , , climbing into those boats and making that journey-— climbing into those boats and making thatjourney— that journey. absolutely, and i'm afraid to say _ that journey. absolutely, and i'm afraid to say it _ that journey. absolutely, and i'm afraid to say it does _ that journey. absolutely, and i'm afraid to say it does not - that journey. absolutely, and i'm afraid to say it does not surprise | afraid to say it does not surprise me in the least that despite what we had yesterday and the terrible tragedy which unfolded in the waters of the english channel, that still so many decided to try and leave france, take their chances, and some of those have made thatjourney two, three, four or five times to try and make it to the uk. some of them at least feel they have already risked everything coming from countries where they have been persecuted perhaps, orwhere where they have been persecuted perhaps, or where theirfamily where they have been persecuted perhaps, or where their family have been imprisoned. it's merely the latest in a series of risks. some people say, why don't theyjust latest in a series of risks. some people say, why don't they just stay in france? sometimes it's about family connections, their last family connections, their last family in the world might be in the uk. sometimes it's about language, they speak english, but not french. one of the other reasons is they feel they have been treated badly in france and i don't think people necessarily appreciate just how poor conditions are in the camps, i call that camps charitably, they are reallyjust that camps charitably, they are really just roots and that camps charitably, they are reallyjust roots and roadsides where women, men and children are living. to understand that, we spent some time in some camps in calais and dunkirk and here is a sense of what we found there. when you think of dunkirk, this almost certainly is not the escape you think of. but in 2021, this is what dunkirk is. thousands of people from around the world, men, women and children, living in the woods, wondering the motorway, waiting for the call to flee at dawn across the sea from france to britain. we have spent the last few days here talking to those in this political purgatory. first thing, the french police mounted a morning raid. so people are literallyjust wandering up and down this street because their camp has been broken up. the french police have destroyed their things, their sleeping bags, their equipment and so on. and now they've just got to wander up and down until they can find somewhere else to go. have you tried to cross to the uk already? of course. how, in boat? by boat. what happens, you got turned back? though most would not speak on camera, this was the refrain we heard again and again. when we asked why people were not claiming asylum in france, some said, family in britain, historic ties between their countries and britain, language. but many cited how they had been treated by the french government and their belief that britain would be more humane. the overwhelming feeling here is of futility. the endless cycle. the police take away their things, aid groups support give them back, and on it goes. we have families here with children less than a year old. we have families with pregnant women. we have toddlers. we have got groups of young teenage boys, people who have been forced from their country. charlie, who has worked here for six years, say these camp dispersals happen as often as twice a week. if the police were here, maybe with they would say, organisations like yours are undermining what we're trying to do because we are trying to deter gangs from bringing people here and trying to deter people from trying to settle here. and you are undermining that. what would you say to that? they could suggest that, however we know that that is not true because we are a humanitarian aid organisation. we are not interested in how or why people are crossing to the uk. that is not what is important, that's not what's shocking. what's shocking is the way people are being treated here on a daily basis. what's shocking are the amounts of human rights that are being abused on a daily basis. and the fact that all of this is being funded by the uk government. we should remember, too, that in terms of numbers at least, compared to other european countries, or indeed elsewhere, we are not talking about that many people. it's just more visible. i think it's different in terms of illegal immigration. i think if you look at the overall numbers of people coming in illegally, they're broadly the same as they were in my time. but what's changed is the method. when i was in the job, a lot of the illegal migration was coming through the port of calais. people were penetrating the airport perimeter, climbing into the backs of lorries, and getting through that way. but we have invested quite a lot of time and effort with the french on tightening up the port of calais. it's much harder to break into the port now. and we have quite sophisticated search capabilities to detect people climbing into lorries. when you add that to the covid crisis, when less lorries are coming across anyway, the human smugglers have changed tactics and they've now taken to this relatively new phenomenon of putting people in small boats and bringing them across in that way. and there is that familiar futility again. later in the day, the camp simply reforms up the road and as night falls, they know they must wait by the phone lest the call comes to head to the beaches. for all we know, anyone of these people could have been one of those who perished in the sea. conditions on land are only a bit better. this is my tent. so you are sharing this with your friend? yes, yes. now, we are three. three people in your tent? yes, it's really tough. there's much discussion in britain about whether these people are genuine asylum seekers. it's a fair question. but also fair to consider whether many or most would credibly take these sort of risks if they were not. this man we're not naming is only 20 years old and says he wants to get to britain because it's where his last family connections in the world remain. imagine if you got to the uk, what would you like your future to be like? live a life, yes, like other people, they live their life. yes, getajob, get married, get children. charlie, the really distressing thing, one of the most distressing things is naturally, i spent some time over the last 24 hours, my team spent some time thinking about, could have been that any of those people could have been on one of the boats? we talked to the aid agencies who are familiar to the people were talking to saying they do know some of the people who tried to make the crossing in the last 24 hours, they don't think it was anyone we spoke to on the film but it brings it home just how real this tragedy is. and now of course we are going to have a political war of words between the british and french governments, there is a fissure between the british government saying the french need to get a handle on it and the french saying the british need to be more involved. there is two to 300 kilometres of coastline along the french sure, and the french government would say, even if we tried to put a police officer on every single beach, it only takes a matter of minutes to launch a boat. if there is not a significant policy change, and we were warned about this a week ago, one agency said, the risk was that the channel would become a graveyard and that has tragically come to pass in the last 24 hours. we're joined now by clare moseley, the founder of the refugee aid charity care4calais. thank you for your time. i don't know if you could hear of what something was being sane there by lewis. in terms of practical measures that can be done immediately, what are your thoughts? the first thing would be to stop treating them quite so badly in france because the conditions are horrific. more broadly borisjohnson talked about no stone being unturned to stop the people smugglers and from our point of view, the people smugglers are a symptom but not a cause of the issue. the issue is that these people want to claim uk asylum, and they cannot do it unless they are physically present in the uk. and there's no way for them to get their other than sneaking on about. if we really want to change things, we need to give them away to claim asylum without risking their lives and that would cut the people smugglers out of the business. that's what the government say they want and that is what we all want because maybe once people are brutally preying on vulnerable people. —— nobody wants people brutally preying on vulnerable people. they keep spending more money on security but we all see it is not working. your programme has just said, 100, 300 kilometres of beach, it will not change anything, security, display pupils lives at risk. now we are seeing the worst consequences of that. —— itjust puts people's lives at risk. 50 consequences of that. -- it 'ust puts people's lives at risk. so what with the system _ puts people's lives at risk. so what with the system look _ puts people's lives at risk. so what with the system look like? - puts people's lives at risk. so what with the system look like? some l puts people's lives at risk. so what i with the system look like? some kind of processing centre in france? the immigration minister here has said they are not looking at that. well. they are not looking at that. well, one option. _ they are not looking at that. well, one option, there _ they are not looking at that. well, one option, there are _ they are not looking at that. well, one option, there are different - they are not looking at that. att one option, there are different ways it could work that one way might be some kind of screening centre in france where they have an initial look at people's claims and if they have a possible viable claim, they would be transferred to the uk safely. and then they would be processed in the uk. it's really about giving them away for their claims to be assessed without having to take their life in their hands. at the end of the day, these are innocent people. all that has happened to a refugee is that they have been born in the wrong place. it's not their fault, have been born in the wrong place. it's not theirfault, they have been born in the wrong place. it's not their fault, they are a victim. they should not be having to risk their lives like this. it is to our shame that they are dying at our border having gone through so much, escaped from terrible conditions and faced a horrendous journey and then they die at our border, it's absolutely heartbreaking. if we could find a way for them to get to the uk safely and then process them. we are not saying open borders, we say, processed their claim and see if they have a valid claim, that would get rid of this. everybody keeps saying they want to stop the people smugglers. this is the way they could be stopped, we could literally put them out of business by introducing a way for them to have their claims processed without having to risk their lives. after seeing these dreadful events, surely thatis seeing these dreadful events, surely that is what we have to do, we have to find a way to not let this happen again. it's absolutely horrific for these ordinary men and women to risk their lives and die in this horrible way, death by driving in the middle of winter, it's terrific. and for this to happen at our border, there are no words for this. can this to happen at our border, there are no words for this.— this to happen at our border, there are no words for this. can i ask you to address — are no words for this. can i ask you to address one _ are no words for this. can i ask you to address one thing, _ are no words for this. can i ask you to address one thing, it _ are no words for this. can i ask you to address one thing, it has - are no words for this. can i ask you to address one thing, it has been i to address one thing, it has been mentioned a couple of times this morning. those people who say that some of those people who are making those journeys are economic migrants, not asylum seekers, economic migrants. how difficult is it to determine that and in the system you described where there might be some kind of early intervention to try and determine who these people are, and what the situation is, could that be done? the fact is, and i don't know if you saw last week, it was on the parliamentary website, the vast majority are genuine refugees and thatis majority are genuine refugees and that is what is important, that the people who are the most vulnerable people who are the most vulnerable people in the world are getting the protection they need. that is the most important thing and if somebody is told there is no way that there is told there is no way that there is no way they get asylum in the uk we are removing the incentive for thatjourney because 98% of them, 98% submit an asylum claim the minute they arrive in the u k and they tell us again and again they are coming to the uk seeking a better life and seeking asylum, and if they have no chance of getting there and we remove the incentive for the journey, there and we remove the incentive for thejourney, you might risk your life or something that is something you really want but would you risk it for a life being illegal, not just for certainty or safety, so properly not, so that removes the incentive. so it adjust things at the same time. incentive. so it ad'ust things at the same time._ incentive. so it ad'ust things at the same time. ., ., ,, , ., ., the same time. claire, thank you for our the same time. claire, thank you for your time- — the same time. claire, thank you for your time- it's _ the same time. claire, thank you for your time. it's just _ the same time. claire, thank you for your time. it's just after _ the same time. claire, thank you for your time. it'sjust after half- the same time. claire, thank you for your time. it'sjust after half past. your time. it's just after half past eight let's find out what is happening in terms of the news where you are. good morning, i'm sonja jessup. as londoners face the first of series of 24 hour tube strikes tomorrow, the mayor has called for further talks with the rmt union. the dispute affects the central, jubilee, northern, piccadilly and victoria lines, as well as the relaunch of the night tube on saturday. it's over changes to working hours, which the rmt says are unfair. our message to the rmt is talk to us, come back round the table, talk to tfl. all of the unions have accepted that the night tube needs to return and accepted the rosters. they understand the importance to the nighttime economy of the night tube, but also women's safety. a teenage boy — thought to be 16 years old — has died after being stabbed in west london. police have launched a murder investigation after he was found in raleigh road in southalljust after nine last night. several self—defence clubs have told the bbc they've seen a rise in the number of women taking up classes amidst continuing headlines about women's safety. one group in south east london says enquiries are up by 75%. i think i started to feel a bit more unsafe just walking around by myself, especially coming into winter, in the evening when it is getting dark, and just feeling i did not know what i would do if someone were to try to attack me. i bought a rape alarm, but i don't have any other idea what i would do in that situation. i wanted to feel a bit more empowered to take care of myself. wembley park will be lit up tonight with the return of the christmas lights trail �*winterfest�*. it's centrepiece is a 25—foot tree. the big switch on happens at 7 o clock tonight travel now. there's been a signal failure on the overground, so no service between gospel oak and upper holloway, time for the weather now with elizabeth rizzini. good morning. it's been a very cold week of weather so far across the capital and things are only set to turn chillier still as we head through the rest of it but there will be some sunshine around at times, notably today. it's another cold, frosty start to the morning for many of us especially towards northern home counties where we saw the cloud clear first. further south a cloudier picture and it will clear southwards and a slightly milder start to the day but lots of sunshine emerging just about everywhere and a bit more cloud for the afternoon and a noticeable northerly wind so some wind chill to factor into the temperatures and it will feel cold and highs of six or 7 c. as we head through the evening and overnight, watch out for a sharp frost developing for the first half of the night with temperatures dropping below freezing in a few spots but then there will be more cloud into friday morning itself and on friday we have an area of low pressure that will give us strong, gusty winds and some outbreaks of rain that will fall as rain and temperatures ever so slightly higher but not a great day of weather and plenty of added wind—chill but windier still as we go into saturday. watch out for some showers as it will be feeling cold and some of the showers could be wintry on the higher ground. more from me in half an hour. now i'll hand you back to charlie and naga hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. morning live is on bbc one after breakfast. let's find out what kym and gethin have in store. little bit of waving. are we not speaking this morning? t little bit of waving. are we not speaking this morning?- little bit of waving. are we not speaking this morning? i was waiting for more. speaking this morning? i was waiting for more- are — speaking this morning? i was waiting for more. are we _ speaking this morning? i was waiting for more. are we all. _ coming up on morning live. more people are taking them than ever before — with one in five of us now suffering from anxiety or depression, 20 million anti—depressants were prescribed last year in three months alone. dr xand's here to talk about medication, as well as other treatment options. i will be looking at what antidepressants - i will be looking at what antidepressants are, i i will be looking at what. antidepressants are, why i will be looking at what - antidepressants are, why we take them _ antidepressants are, why we take them on — antidepressants are, why we take them on the _ antidepressants are, why we take them on the latest _ antidepressants are, why we take them on the latest guidelines- antidepressants are, why we take them on the latest guidelines onl them on the latest guidelines on other— them on the latest guidelines on other treatment _ them on the latest guidelines on other treatment for— them on the latest guidelines on other treatment for depression. | also today — every year we create 1.6 million tonnes of electrical waste in the uk. bad for the planet and our pockets! so before you throw out your broken toasters, kettles and vacuum cleaners you might want to watch this! we visit one caf that's ready to fix your stuff as well as your breakfast. they make a nice coffee too, apparently. and it's the ultimate comfort food for the winter months. our chef anna haugh's here with a soup masterclass. she'll share how to create one of the uk's favourite flavours — leek and potato — and tell us how to prepare the perfect crouton. plus, he's the flying archaeologist who loves to capture the world from above. ben robinson tells us about his latest adventure discovering the important role our coastal villages have played in our history. and for the last nine weeks they've strutted, sashayed and sewn their way in to the grand final of rupaul's drag race uk. before tonight's big finale, we meet the three queens all hoping to be crowned the winner. see you at 9.15am. it will be less waving, more jazz hands — it will be less waving, more jazz hands so— it will be less waving, more jazz hands. so be ready for them. canl hands. so be ready for them. can i 'ust thank hands. so be ready for them. can i just thank the _ hands. so be ready for them. can i just thank the doctor _ hands. so be ready for them. can i just thank the doctor for _ hands. so be ready for them. can i just thank the doctor for his - just thank the doctor for his personal hello. what a lovely touch. i should have said good morning to you as _ i should have said good morning to you as welt — i should have said good morning to you as welt it— i should have said good morning to you as well-— you as well. it was noted. don't wor . you as well. it was noted. don't worry- it _ you as well. it was noted. don't worry- it is _ you as well. it was 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three—part documentary by peterjackson, who directed the lord of the rings trilogy. # get back. we'll have to do it sitting down. or we get too excited. the sounds, the colours, thejoy of the beatles making music unseen for more than half a century. ringo said he thought we just had to tell it like it is. the man entrusted to restore almost 60 hours of footage from the let it be sessions injanuary1969, the lord of the rings director, peterjackson. what made you want to dedicate four years of your life to this project? well, i wouldn't have done if it was the rolling stones or something. bit controversial, sorry. a musical documentary is not of huge appeal to me but the beatles, yeah, i'm100%. four years no problem. i've loved every second of it. # speaking words of wisdom... do you want it once more? we will never get - a chance to do it again. the project almost happened by mistake. peterjackson was meeting with the beatles company apple to discuss the possibility of a virtual reality exhibition. so cats and kittens ? but as a beatles obsessive he took his chance to find out something he always wanted to know what happened to the outtakes from the 1970 beatles documentary let it be. they said to me well yes we've got it all which was great. as a fan i was sat there thinking yes "you've got it all." they were thinking about using it for a documentary a stand—alone documentary and they didn't have a film—maker attached so it's the only time i have ever done this and i put my hand up and said if you're looking for somebody please think of me. just say whatever comes into your head each time. try to be a cauliflower until you get the word. peterjackson was offered the job the same day. his only concern was he'd always been turn that the making of the let it be album was a gloomy time of the beatles but when he sat down to watch the outtakes what surprised him was just how much fun everyone was having. if the footage showed everyone a truly miserable band not wanting to be doing what they were doing, i wouldn't have made the movie. that's not the movie i wanted to make. i was amazed and surprised to see the footage showing a very different story to what i believed for 40 years. it's going to be such a comical thing in 50 years' time they broke up because yoko sat on the amp. paul mccartney said watching this documentary has changed his perception of the break—up of the beatles. that's quite a thing. when i talk to ringo or paul about their memories generally of 1969, they talk to me and they say i think you are remembering the movie let it be from 1970 because you're obviously saw it and i think what you have brought us is a let it be is where you are unhappy in may 1970 there was arguments there was lawyers, it was clearly a very stressful and miserable time for you guys. you're not remembering this was a perfectly happy time and this was not a band who were going to break up when you see this and that's what you see on screen. now going to tape the beatles, so be quiet. oh, so you're recording our conversation? - and the secret nature of much of the filming allowed a unique insight into what it was really like to be in the studio with the beatles. looking for a blast from the past? they hit the button and had ten minutes of film then go away and have a cup of tea so the beatles would think that guy's not got the camera sitting there so they would loosen up and feel that they weren't being filmed and they could be honest with each other. and it's when they don't know that they are being filmed when you get amazing bits and an amazing insight into the individuals in the band. what did you learn about the beatles then from those moments? i mean, i learned in january 1969 they were unbelievably normal people. they were liverpool guys. there is a psychic connection between them where they don't have to talk to each other to know what they are thinking and what to do. it's a strong depth of that friendship that really struck me. the best bit of us always has been and always will be is when we our backs are against the wall. all we've got is us. what do you think? in the end there was so much footage that get back has been divided into three parts and there is one other trilogy that links peterjackson to the beatles. one real curiosity, in the 1960s, the beatles actually wanted to make a lord of the rings movie directed by stanley kubrick. what do you know about that? i've been scraping together little pieces of information and interrogating paul about it. when they went to india, when they stayed in india for three months with the maharishi in the beginning of 1968, john paul and george each got one lord of the rings book to read in india and they got excited about it and ultimately they couldn't get the rights from tolkien, because tolkien didn't like the idea of a pop group during his story. paul as frodo and john as gollum. i believe. apparently. how different your life might have been had they made the movie. when i spoke to paul about it, he said i'm glad i didn't do it and you got to you do yours and i like your film, but i don't know. and i said to him it's a shame you didn't do it because what would the soundtrack be like? that would have been 14 or 15 beatles songs that would have been pretty incredible to listen to. one, two, three, four! peterjackson, thank you very much for speaking to us. you are very welcome. thank you. we can have a chat with colin who is in savile row, and you will recognise the scene because that is the roof and colin couldn't get up on the roof and i think we can see you now but you are downstairs somewhere below. there you go. t will give you a wave as well. if anyone is inside the building and fancies letting us in, they can do it but this is such a famous bit of beatles history and used to be the headquarters of apple in the period we are talking about, january 1969, the last 45 minutes of this epic documentary is all up there and they show the whole of the final ever beatles performance. and they are into viewing people on the ground and a chat to one business in the doorway right behind me and asked, what you make of the beatles playing the gig and he says, this is an imposition. now he is going down in history in this epic beatles documentary.— history in this epic beatles documenta . ., , documentary. the documentary looks fantastic but — documentary. the documentary looks fantastic but the _ documentary. the documentary looks fantastic but the fact _ documentary. the documentary looks fantastic but the fact that _ documentary. the documentary looks fantastic but the fact that peter - fantastic but the fact that peter jackson has directed it, that is such a treat to be able to talk to him, surely? such a treat to be able to talk to him. surely?— such a treat to be able to talk to him, surely? yes, and the reasons they wanted _ him, surely? yes, and the reasons they wanted him _ him, surely? yes, and the reasons they wanted him to _ him, surely? yes, and the reasons they wanted him to do _ him, surely? yes, and the reasons they wanted him to do it _ him, surely? yes, and the reasons they wanted him to do it was - him, surely? yes, and the reasons they wanted him to do it was they | they wanted him to do it was they had seen his world war i documentary and the way he had restored that footage and the way he has used the same techniques on this beatles footage, and when you see it looks like it was filmed yesterday and the are so vibrant and it looks so fun of life and joy and that's one of the interesting things because as we touched on in an interview, there's a was being a reputation that it was a was being a reputation that it was a miserable time the beatles and george harrison called it the winter of discontent and paul mccartney has watched a documentary and thought, i got this wrong and we were enjoying ourselves and the beginning of the end of the beatles was later than he thought it was. ts end of the beatles was later than he thought it was-— thought it was. is one of the things that is fascinating _ thought it was. is one of the things that is fascinating is _ thought it was. is one of the things that is fascinating is the _ thought it was. is one of the things that is fascinating is the extent - thought it was. is one of the things that is fascinating is the extent to i that is fascinating is the extent to which and we know the story already and there's been so much broadcast and there's been so much broadcast and then lo and behold there is this treasure trove of stuff. yes. and then lo and behold there is this treasure trove of stuff.— treasure trove of stuff. yes, and what is fantastic _ treasure trove of stuff. yes, and what is fantastic is _ treasure trove of stuff. yes, and what is fantastic is so _ treasure trove of stuff. yes, and what is fantastic is so much - treasure trove of stuff. yes, and i what is fantastic is so much footage was done without the beatles knowing they were being filmed and you capture the sense of what it was like, and a lot of it was in the building in the apple corps building and you see them talking about what was on tv the night before, just reading articles out of the newspaper and you get a sense of just how much camaraderie and what made them such a special group. it is long and the first part has just dropped, two hours and 30 minutes on the whole thing is just under eight hours and that is just 90 minutes less than lord of the rings. tt is less than lord of the rings. it is e-ic less than lord of the rings. it is e . ic and less than lord of the rings. it is epic and a _ less than lord of the rings. it is epic and a lot — less than lord of the rings. it is epic and a lot of _ less than lord of the rings. it is epic and a lot of people will be very, very happy. lovely to chat to you this morning and a fantastic location and it so steeped in history. the beatles and places there are certain places where you think of those images. fiend there are certain places where you think of those images.— think of those images. and if you are a beatles _ think of those images. and if you are a beatles fan _ think of those images. and if you are a beatles fan or _ think of those images. and if you are a beatles fan or you - think of those images. and if you are a beatles fan or you enjoy i think of those images. and if you | are a beatles fan or you enjoy the history you can properly immerse yourself in this because as colin said, episode one is on disney plus and episode two is out tomorrow and then the one the next day so a big treat in store for you as a beatles fan. ,, ., , . fan. staying with the music theme. westlife will _ fan. staying with the music theme. westlife will be _ fan. staying with the music theme. westlife will be joining _ fan. staying with the music theme. westlife will be joining us - fan. staying with the music theme. westlife will be joining us on - fan. staying with the music theme. westlife will be joining us on a - westlife will be joining us on a sofa in a moment. their latest album includes tracks written by all four of the guys, as well as one by ed sheeran. let's hear a couple of tracks now. music shane, mark, kian and nickyjoin us now. all the boys, i said the boys then. is it ok to say that? all the boys, i said the boys then. is it ok to say that?— is it ok to say that? we've got a few wrinkles _ is it ok to say that? we've got a few wrinkles now, _ is it ok to say that? we've got a few wrinkles now, so _ is it ok to say that? we've got a few wrinkles now, so maybe - is it ok to say that? we've got a few wrinkles now, so maybe we | is it ok to say that? we've got a i few wrinkles now, so maybe we are meh _ few wrinkles now, so maybe we are men. as— few wrinkles now, so maybe we are men. �* , ., few wrinkles now, so maybe we are men, �* , ., ., , few wrinkles now, so maybe we are men. a ., few wrinkles now, so maybe we are men. m ., .,�* few wrinkles now, so maybe we are men. a ., , men. as long as you don't call us old men- — men. as long as you don't call us old men- they — men. as long as you don't call us old men. they are _ men. as long as you don't call us old men. they are all— men. as long as you don't call us old men. they are all here - men. as long as you don't call us old men. they are all here now. | men. as long as you don't call usj old men. they are all here now. i don't know— old men. they are all here now. i don't know if— old men. they are all here now. i don't know if you _ old men. they are all here now. i don't know if you saw _ old men. they are all here now. i don't know if you saw the - old men. they are all here now. i j don't know if you saw the beatles stuff, a moment to go but there's all this footage has been unearthed and some of it shining a new light on the bad times when they are breaking up and the idea that people thought they did not get on and people might ask the same about you guys. people might ask the same about you vu s. , ., , . people might ask the same about you vu s. , . ., people might ask the same about you guys. there is no such footage of us. guys. there is no such footage of us- nobody _ guys. there is no such footage of us. nobody might _ guys. there is no such footage of us. nobody might ever— guys. there is no such footage of us. nobody might ever find - guys. there is no such footage of us. nobody might ever find it. i l guys. there is no such footage of l us. nobody might ever find it. i am obsessed with _ us. nobody might ever find it. i am obsessed with looking up old footage of the _ obsessed with looking up old footage of the beatles and there's something fascinating and the fact there is so little. _ fascinating and the fact there is so little. but — fascinating and the fact there is so little, but there is a lot, but to see some _ little, but there is a lot, but to see some new stuff, that's great. well deflected, by the way. i�*m well deflected, by the way. i'm avoin to well deflected, by the way. i'm going to come _ well deflected, by the way. i'm going to come back to it. we i well deflected, by the way. i'm l going to come back to it. we are avoin to going to come back to it. we are going to deflect _ going to come back to it. we are going to deflect it _ going to come back to it. we are going to deflect it again. - going to come back to it. we are going to deflect it again. people| going to deflect it again. people are fascinated _ going to deflect it again. people are fascinated by _ going to deflect it again. people are fascinated by bands - going to deflect it again. people| are fascinated by bands breaking going to deflect it again. people - are fascinated by bands breaking up and what went on behind the scenes, if anything. we and what went on behind the scenes, if an hinv. ~ ' and what went on behind the scenes, ifan hinv. ' , .,, if anything. we were 14 years together. _ if anything. we were 14 years together. so _ if anything. we were 14 years together, so if _ if anything. we were 14 years together, so if you _ if anything. we were 14 years together, so if you look - if anything. we were 14 years together, so if you look at i if anything. we were 14 years | together, so if you look at any if anything. we were 14 years - together, so if you look at any band whether— together, so if you look at any band whether it _ together, so if you look at any band whether it is a boyband, pop or rock, _ whether it is a boyband, pop or rock, it — whether it is a boyband, pop or rock, it doesn't matter what music you do. _ rock, it doesn't matter what music you do. it's — rock, it doesn't matter what music you do, it's an intense couple of years— you do, it's an intense couple of years and — you do, it's an intense couple of years and if— you do, it's an intense couple of years and if it goes well it gets ijil, years and if it goes well it gets big, so— years and if it goes well it gets big, so 14 _ years and if it goes well it gets big, so 14 years was a long time but we loved _ big, so 14 years was a long time but we loved it— big, so 14 years was a long time but we loved it but we needed a break and we _ we loved it but we needed a break and we all— we loved it but we needed a break and we all did our own separate stuff _ and we all did our own separate stuff that — and we all did our own separate stuff that reignited the flame to come _ stuff that reignited the flame to come back and do the reunion two years— come back and do the reunion two years ago— come back and do the reunion two years ago which went so well and that enabled us to do the new album that enabled us to do the new album that enabled us to do the new album that enable us to go onto witches late next— that enable us to go onto witches late next year and the album is out on friday. — late next year and the album is out on friday. so— late next year and the album is out on friday, so see howl late next year and the album is out on friday, so see how i deflected that? _ on friday, so see how! deflected that? ., , ., ., , that? you 'ust did a load of pr they are. well that? you just did a load of pr they are. well done. _ that? you just did a load of pr they are. well done. you _ that? you just did a load of pr they are. well done. you got _ that? you just did a load of pr they are. well done. you got it - that? you just did a load of pr they are. well done. you got it all - that? you just did a load of pr they are. well done. you got it all in - that? you just did a load of pr they are. well done. you got it all in sol are. well done. you got it all in so we don't have to say it.— are. well done. you got it all in so we don't have to say it. thanks very much. we don't have to say it. thanks very much- lovely _ we don't have to say it. thanks very much. lovely seeing _ we don't have to say it. thanks very much. lovely seeing you. _ we don't have to say it. thanks very much. lovely seeing you. lovely i much. lovely seeing you. lovely seeinv much. lovely seeing you. lovely seeing you! _ much. lovely seeing you. lovely seeing you! you've _ much. lovely seeing you. lovely seeing you! you've all— much. lovely seeing you. lovely seeing you! you've all got - much. lovely seeing you. lovely seeing you! you've all got kids. | much. lovely seeing you. lovely i seeing you! you've all got kids. so here is my question. when you were split up and you chat to the kids and you would say, oh, no, and you say things like, i don't know, shane was really annoying and nicky had this habit, so when you got back together. this habit, so when you got back tovether. ., , this habit, so when you got back tovether. ~ , ., , together. the kids have put their foot in it. have _ together. the kids have put their foot in it. have they _ together. the kids have put their foot in it. have they put - together. the kids have put their foot in it. have they put their- together. the kids have put their| foot in it. have they put their foot in it? granny _ foot in it. have they put their foot in it? granny said _ foot in it. have they put their foot in it? granny said you _ foot in it. have they put their foot in it? granny said you were - foot in it. have they put their foot in it? granny said you were really| in it? granny said you were really rude. in it? granny said you were really rude- while _ in it? granny said you were really rude. while they _ in it? granny said you were really rude. while they are _ in it? granny said you were really rude. while they are picking - in it? granny said you were really rude. while they are picking their noses. rude. while they are picking their noses- me _ rude. while they are picking their noses. me speaking _ rude. while they are picking their noses. me speaking personally, i rude. while they are picking their i noses. me speaking personally, my kids are a bit _ noses. me speaking personally, my kids are a bit young _ noses. me speaking personally, my kids are a bit young and _ noses. me speaking personally, my kids are a bit young and my - noses. me speaking personally, my kids are a bit young and my first. kids are a bit young and my first child _ kids are a bit young and my first child was— kids are a bit young and my first child was born the year we broke up and obviously they only started learning — and obviously they only started learning about westlife as the years rolled _ learning about westlife as the years rolled on _ learning about westlife as the years rolled on so it is interesting but to be _ rolled on so it is interesting but to be honest with you, for all of us, it's— to be honest with you, for all of us, it's lovely to be back together so the _ us, it's lovely to be back together so the kids— us, it's lovely to be back together so the kids get to experience it and see what— so the kids get to experience it and see what we are doing. are so the kids get to experience it and see what we are doing.— see what we are doing. are the children at _ see what we are doing. are the children at the _ see what we are doing. are the children at the point _ see what we are doing. are the children at the point where - see what we are doing. are the | children at the point where they see what we are doing. are the - children at the point where they are really chuffed that their dad are p0p really chuffed that their dad are pop stars or are they may get embarrassed? t pop stars or are they may get embarrassed?— pop stars or are they may get embarrassed? i think they are chuffed, some _ embarrassed? i think they are chuffed, some of— embarrassed? i think they are chuffed, some of them - embarrassed? i think they are chuffed, some of them are i embarrassed? i think they are i chuffed, some of them are older, embarrassed? i think they are - chuffed, some of them are older, but most _ chuffed, some of them are older, but most of— chuffed, some of them are older, but most of them — chuffed, some of them are older, but most of them are _ chuffed, some of them are older, but most of them are chuffed _ chuffed, some of them are older, but most of them are chuffed and - chuffed, some of them are older, but most of them are chuffed and they i most of them are chuffed and they come _ most of them are chuffed and they come to— most of them are chuffed and they come to the — most of them are chuffed and they come to the concerts _ most of them are chuffed and they come to the concerts and - most of them are chuffed and they come to the concerts and you - most of them are chuffed and they come to the concerts and you try. most of them are chuffed and theyl come to the concerts and you try to explain _ come to the concerts and you try to explain what — come to the concerts and you try to explain what we _ come to the concerts and you try to explain what we do _ come to the concerts and you try to explain what we do and _ come to the concerts and you try to explain what we do and what - come to the concerts and you try to explain what we do and what kind i come to the concerts and you try to| explain what we do and what kind of band it _ explain what we do and what kind of band it was — explain what we do and what kind of band it was like _ explain what we do and what kind of band it was like and _ explain what we do and what kind of band it was like and may— explain what we do and what kind of band it was like and may be - explain what we do and what kind of band it was like and may be like - explain what we do and what kind ofj band it was like and may be like one direction _ band it was like and may be like one direction seven— band it was like and may be like one direction seven or— band it was like and may be like one direction seven or eight _ band it was like and may be like one direction seven or eight years - band it was like and may be like one direction seven or eight years ago, i direction seven or eight years ago, so we _ direction seven or eight years ago, so we were — direction seven or eight years ago, so we were trying _ direction seven or eight years ago, so we were trying to _ direction seven or eight years ago, so we were trying to describe - direction seven or eight years ago, so we were trying to describe it. i direction seven or eight years ago, | so we were trying to describe it. so for them _ so we were trying to describe it. so for them to— so we were trying to describe it. so for them to come _ so we were trying to describe it. so for them to come to _ so we were trying to describe it. so for them to come to the _ so we were trying to describe it. so for them to come to the concerts,,| for them to come to the concerts,, that's— for them to come to the concerts,, that's impressive. _ for them to come to the concerts,, that's impressive. we _ for them to come to the concerts,, that's impressive.— that's impressive. we did a queen medley on — that's impressive. we did a queen medley on the _ that's impressive. we did a queen medley on the last _ that's impressive. we did a queen medley on the last four _ that's impressive. we did a queen medley on the last four and - that's impressive. we did a queen medley on the last four and we i that's impressive. we did a queen i medley on the last four and we were doing _ medley on the last four and we were doing all— medley on the last four and we were doing all the queen songs and i remember going to the big screen and shaking _ remember going to the big screen and shaking the _ remember going to the big screen and shaking the bump to the camera and at an afterwards, they said, dad, do you have _ at an afterwards, they said, dad, do you have to— at an afterwards, they said, dad, do you have to do that? do at an afterwards, they said, dad, do you have to do that?— you have to do that? do you have to be that green _ you have to do that? do you have to be that green g? _ you have to do that? do you have to be that green g? are _ you have to do that? do you have to be that green g? are they _ you have to do that? do you have to be that green g? are they amazed l be that green g? are they amazed with people _ be that green g? are they amazed with people swooning _ be that green g? are they amazed with people swooning over- be that green g? are they amazed with people swooning over you? i be that green g? are they amazed i with people swooning over you? the da s of with people swooning over you? the days of screaming girls and all of that, _ days of screaming girls and all of that, at— days of screaming girls and all of that, at a — days of screaming girls and all of that, at a concert, it's kind of different— that, at a concert, it's kind of different because they are singing along _ different because they are singing along and there's a lot of noise and when _ along and there's a lot of noise and when the _ along and there's a lot of noise and when the lights go down the audience reacts _ when the lights go down the audience reacts but _ when the lights go down the audience reacts but i _ when the lights go down the audience reacts but i don't think we have screaming _ reacts but i don't think we have screaming girls chasing it down the road _ screaming girls chasing it down the road do— screaming girls chasing it down the road. , ., screaming girls chasing it down the road. ,, ,, not screaming girls chasing it down the road._ not terribly. | road. do you miss it? not terribly. we are older _ road. do you miss it? not terribly. we are older now— road. do you miss it? not terribly. we are older now and _ road. do you miss it? not terribly. we are older now and they - road. do you miss it? not terribly. we are older now and they act - we are older now and they act slightly— we are older now and they act slightly different, our family is. looking — slightly different, our family is. looking back at your material, you are famed for your choreographed routines. and is that something that came automatically and i was asking who is the bad dancer. and is that excepted? t who is the bad dancer. and is that exce hted? ., ., excepted? i find it hard to concentrate _ excepted? i find it hard to concentrate on _ excepted? i find it hard to concentrate on singing i excepted? i find it hard to| concentrate on singing and excepted? i find it hard to - concentrate on singing and dancing at the _ concentrate on singing and dancing at the same time and i will drop out of the _ at the same time and i will drop out of the dance routines but if i had to pick— of the dance routines but if i had to pick what i would pick singing, because — to pick what i would pick singing, because i'm a singer. sometimes it's really— because i'm a singer. sometimes it's really unsubtle and awkward. to be honest. _ really unsubtle and awkward. to be honest. at — really unsubtle and awkward. to be honest, at the beginning, we've never— honest, at the beginning, we've never been known as dancers but we have been— never been known as dancers but we have been known for bits of choreography, like the stills in the background there and simon cowell saw us _ background there and simon cowell saw us standing up on one tv show, on a key— saw us standing up on one tv show, on a key change and it's become quite _ on a key change and it's become quite famous now and he was like, i love it _ quite famous now and he was like, i love it and — quite famous now and he was like, i love it. and he was adding key changes— love it. and he was adding key changes on songs that didn't need them _ changes on songs that didn't need them just— changes on songs that didn't need them just so we could stand up. and --eole them just so we could stand up. and people used to gasp. it _ them just so we could stand up. and people used to gasp. it was - them just so we could stand up. and people used to gasp. it was a - people used to gasp. it was a dramatic moment. _ people used to gasp. it was a dramatic moment. and - people used to gasp. it was a dramatic moment. and our. people used to gasp. it was a i dramatic moment. and our new people used to gasp. it was a - dramatic moment. and our new single is the first key — dramatic moment. and our new single is the first key change _ dramatic moment. and our new single is the first key change we've _ dramatic moment. and our new single is the first key change we've had - dramatic moment. and our new single is the first key change we've had in i is the first key change we've had in a while _ is the first key change we've had in a while. did is the first key change we've had in a while. , , ., a while. did you ever get the timing com-letel a while. did you ever get the timing completely wrong? _ a while. did you ever get the timing completely wrong? i've _ a while. did you ever get the timing completely wrong? i've got - completely wrong? i've got impeccable _ completely wrong? i've got impeccable timing, - completely wrong? i've got impeccable timing, but - completely wrong? i've got impeccable timing, but not| completely wrong? i've got i impeccable timing, but not in completely wrong? i've got - impeccable timing, but not in the morning — impeccable timing, but not in the morninv. ., , , ., impeccable timing, but not in the morning-— youi morning. you build up to it. you lean back— morning. you build up to it. you lean back slightly _ morning. you build up to it. you lean back slightly first. - morning. you build up to it. you lean back slightly first. can - morning. you build up to it. you lean back slightly first. can you | morning. you build up to it. you i lean back slightly first. can you do it? have we _ lean back slightly first. can you do it? have we got _ lean back slightly first. can you do it? have we got some _ lean back slightly first. can you do it? have we got some music? - lean back slightly first. can you do it? have we got some music? i i it? have we got some music? i haven't rehearsed. field - it? have we got some music? i haven't rehearsed. field gear. it? have we got some music? i - haven't rehearsed. field gear change and then do — haven't rehearsed. field gear change and then do it. _ haven't rehearsed. field gear change and then do it. you _ haven't rehearsed. field gear change and then do it. you have _ haven't rehearsed. field gear change and then do it. you have to - haven't rehearsed. field gear change and then do it. you have to look- haven't rehearsed. field gear change and then do it. you have to look in i and then do it. you have to look in the distance _ and then do it. you have to look in the distance where _ and then do it. you have to look in the distance where there - and then do it. you have to look in the distance where there is - and then do it. you have to look ml the distance where there is nothing there _ the distance where there is nothing there i— the distance where there is nothing there. ., , ., ., there. i was rather moved. i remember— there. i was rather moved. i remember interviewing - there. i was rather moved. i remember interviewing the | there. i was rather moved. i- remember interviewing the poldark stars and they said there was a look they did on the cliffs and at some point everyone had to do a look where they go, oh. there is a special look. it's a similar feel. we know in videos where you do the confused _ we know in videos where you do the confused look— we know in videos where you do the confused look and _ we know in videos where you do the confused look and you _ we know in videos where you do the confused look and you look - we know in videos where you do the confused look and you look at - we know in videos where you do the confused look and you look at the i confused look and you look at the camera _ confused look and you look at the camera. ., ., . , confused look and you look at the camera. ., ., . .,, , ., camera. can we get a close-up on the confused look? _ camera. can we get a close-up on the confused look? he _ camera. can we get a close-up on the confused look? he was _ camera. can we get a close-up on the confused look? he was always - camera. can we get a close-up on the confused look? he was always doing i confused look? he was always doing it. it's like you have to multiply 242 x 94. not i do that face quite a lot on this programme.— 242 x 94. not i do that face quite a lot on this programme. when you were writin: the lot on this programme. when you were writing the knewstubb _ lot on this programme. when you were writing the knewstubb during _ writing the knewstubb during lockdown, you couldn't travel more than 2km away. lockdown, you couldn't travel more than 2km away-— lockdown, you couldn't travel more than 2km away._ so - lockdown, you couldn't travel more than 2km away._ so you | lockdown, you couldn't travel more i than 2km away._ so you did than 2km away. then 5km. so you did eve hinv than 2km away. then 5km. so you did everything over— than 2km away. then 5km. so you did everything over the _ than 2km away. then 5km. so you did everything over the phone. _ than 2km away. then 5km. so you did everything over the phone. the - than 2km away. then 5km. so you did everything over the phone. the one i everything over the phone. the one thin that everything over the phone. the one thing that became _ everything over the phone. the one thing that became apparent - everything over the phone. the one thing that became apparent was - everything over the phone. the one thing that became apparent was we j thing that became apparent was we could _ thing that became apparent was we could make an album and we couldn't do anything _ could make an album and we couldn't do anything as a band but we could make _ do anything as a band but we could make an _ do anything as a band but we could make an album separately and we had a mobile _ make an album separately and we had a mobile ring that went around the houses _ a mobile ring that went around the houses. did you properly sanitise it. i houses. did you properly sanitise it. , , it. i genuinely sanitise it, especially _ it. i genuinely sanitise it, especially when - it. i genuinely sanitise it, especially when i - it. i genuinely sanitise it, especially when i came i it. i genuinely sanitise it, i especially when i came out it. i genuinely sanitise it, - especially when i came out of nikki's— especially when i came out of nikki's house. _ especially when i came out of nikki's house. that _ especially when i came out of nikki's house. that was - especially when i came out of nikki's house. that was a - especially when i came out of. nikki's house. that was a joke. especially when i came out of- nikki's house. that was a joke. you nikki's house. that was a 'oke. you mivht nikki's house. that was a 'oke. you might hear— nikki's house. that was a 'oke. you might hear a — nikki's house. that was a joke. might hear a couple of dogs nikki's house. that was a joke.“ might hear a couple of dogs barking. it might hear a couple of dogs barking. it was _ might hear a couple of dogs barking. it was amazing to make it that way. and you _ it was amazing to make it that way. and you got — it was amazing to make it that way. and you got the children on board, so that will add to the cool factor. everybody knows it is a big star but he is _ everybody knows it is a big star but he is a _ everybody knows it is a big star but he is a songwriter and that part of ed sheeran— he is a songwriter and that part of ed sheeran is how a lot of songs of his have _ ed sheeran is how a lot of songs of his have ended up on the album because — his have ended up on the album because he's a brilliant songwriter and song — because he's a brilliant songwriter and song writers tend to write a lot of songs _ and song writers tend to write a lot of songs and he supposedly writes 25 songs— of songs and he supposedly writes 25 songs a _ of songs and he supposedly writes 25 songs a week. of songs and he supposedly writes 25 songs a week-— of songs and he supposedly writes 25 songs a week. does he have the note about always — songs a week. does he have the note about always putting _ songs a week. does he have the note about always putting the _ songs a week. does he have the note about always putting the key - songs a week. does he have the note about always putting the key change | about always putting the key change in. he about always putting the key change in. , ., ~' , about always putting the key change in. , ., ,, , . ., about always putting the key change in. , ., ~' , . ., �* in. he put a key change in, didn't he? not on _ in. he put a key change in, didn't he? not on this _ in. he put a key change in, didn't he? not on this one. _ in. he put a key change in, didn't he? not on this one. we - in. he put a key change in, didn't he? not on this one. we said - in. he put a key change in, didn't he? not on this one. we said no | in. he put a key change in, didn't. he? not on this one. we said no key chance, he? not on this one. we said no key change. and — he? not on this one. we said no key change. and we _ he? not on this one. we said no key change, and we were _ he? not on this one. we said no key change, and we were like _ he? not on this one. we said no key change, and we were like ? - he? not on this one. we said no key change, and we were like ? we - he? not on this one. we said no key change, and we were like ? we are i change, and we were like ? we are 'ust change, and we were like ? we are just waiting — change, and we were like ? we are just waiting to _ change, and we were like ? we are just waiting to see _ change, and we were like ? we are just waiting to see if _ change, and we were like ? we are just waiting to see if it _ change, and we were like ? we are just waiting to see if it will- change, and we were like ? we are just waiting to see if it will be - change, and we were like ? we are just waiting to see if it will be a - just waiting to see if it will be a hit. �* , , ., , ., just waiting to see if it will be a hit. 2 , ., , ., hit. it's been lovely having you here this morning. _ hit. it's been lovely having you here this morning. we - hit. it's been lovely having you here this morning. we will. hit. it's been lovely having you here this morning. we will putj hit. it's been lovely having you i here this morning. we will put it hit. it's been lovely having you - here this morning. we will put it on social media. _ here this morning. we will put it on social media, just _ here this morning. we will put it on social media, just a _ here this morning. we will put it on social media, just a move - here this morning. we will put it on social media, just a move where i here this morning. we will put it on | social media, just a move where you stood up. it has moved us all immensely. stood up. it has moved us all immensely-— stood up. it has moved us all immensely. stood up. it has moved us all immensel . �*, ., immensely. there's something about it. can we incorporate _ immensely. there's something about it. can we incorporate it _ immensely. there's something about it. can we incorporate it in _ immensely. there's something about it. can we incorporate it in what - immensely. there's something about it. can we incorporate it in what we i it. can we incorporate it in what we do. if ou it. can we incorporate it in what we do- if you did _ it. can we incorporate it in what we do- if you did it. — it. can we incorporate it in what we do. if you did it, it _ it. can we incorporate it in what we do. if you did it, it would _ it. can we incorporate it in what we do. if you did it, it would be - do. if you did it, it would be cra . do. if you did it, it would be crazy- now— do. if you did it, it would be crazy. now we _ do. if you did it, it would be crazy. now we roam - do. if you did it, it would be - crazy. now we roam manchester, you can come with — crazy. now we roam manchester, you can come with us. — crazy. now we roam manchester, you can come with us, and _ crazy. now we roam manchester, you can come with us, and we _ crazy. now we roam manchester, you can come with us, and we can - crazy. now we roam manchester, you can come with us, and we can do - crazy. now we roam manchester, you can come with us, and we can do it i can come with us, and we can do it next _ can come with us, and we can do it next year~ — can come with us, and we can do it next year-— next year. charlie is up for it. we have to go- _ westlife's new album wild dreams will be released tomorrow. you're watching bbc breakfast. it's 8.59. this is bbc news with the latest headlines the uk and france agree to step up efforts to stop people crossing the channel after 27 men, women and a child drowned when their boat sank as they tried to reach the shores of dover. the immigration minister says human trafficking gangs must be stopped. we are so determined to smack this model of this really evil business model. macros stop t macros he chair of a fan—led review into football says the sport needs an independent regulator. do you agree? 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english football needs an independent regulator to stop it "lurching from crisis to crisis". that's according to a fan—led review into the sport. another fantastic night for english clubs in the champions league. victories for manchester city and liverpool as both win their groups, and city's sterling outshines messi and co. and the fab four as they once were. a new documentary featuring hours of unseen footage of the beatles is released roday. we'll hear from the director peterjackson. will the christmas party get started this year? bookings are back up after a tough 18 months for the hospitality industry. but many firms are warning that a shortage of staff means they cannot operate at full capacity. for many of us today it is going to be dry, sunny and cold, breezy if not windy. some showers in the forecast. when to be in the north but then as we head towards the end of the week, potential for some disruptive weather. i will have all of the details later. it's thursday the 25th of november. the prime minister and president macron of france have agreed to step up joint efforts to prevent illegal crossings of the channel after at least 27 people drowned when their boat off the coast of northern france. four suspected traffickers have been arrested on suspicion of being linked to the sinking. jon donnison has the latest. along the northern french coast, the search for the missing went on after dark. but with temperatures in single digits, the chance of finding anyone alive increasingly remote. at least 27 bodies have been recovered. the biggest loss of life in the channel since it became the preferred route of people traffickers. translation: the first people responsible for this despicable | situation other smugglers. that is to say, criminals who, for a few thousand euros, organise the trafficking of human beings from iraq, afghanistan, africa and asia. it's thought around 25 boats like this set off from the beaches of northern france yesterday. where are you going now? the uk. this one, we know, made it across the channel, but it's a treacherous journey, across one of the world's busiest shipping lanes. this disaster underscores how dangerous it is to cross the channel in this way. and it also shows how vital it is that we now step up our efforts to break the business model of the gangsters who are sending people to sea in this way. last night, the government's cobra emergency committee met, and the prime minister held an urgent phone call with the french president emmanuel macron. downing street said the two men agreed to step up joint efforts to prevent the crossings. any decisions made? evening. and to stop the gangs putting people's lives at risk. but people the bbc spoke to at this calais migrant camp last night said they would keep trying to reach the uk. uday said he attempted to cross earlier this week but gave up because the waves were too high. we need to create safe and legal routes for people to get here, through planned resettlement programmes and family reunion. and we also need to have a safe and fair asylum system here so that people, when they've made theirjourneys, can claim asylum and be fairly assessed. in calais last night, people demanding refugees be better treated held a vigil for those who died. after a year of record numbers crossing the channel, people on all sides of the argument have warned this was a tragedy waiting to happen. jon donnison, bbc news. our correspondent simonjones is in dover. good morning. it has been a very harrowing 2a hours. we know the politicians are talking, tell us a little bit more about what we know about what is happening on the ground. it about what is happening on the round. ., about what is happening on the i round. ”i ,., ., , about what is happening on the iround. ”i ,., ., , , about what is happening on the round. ., , , ., , ground. it may potentially be a bit wind for ground. it may potentially be a bit windy for crossings _ ground. it may potentially be a bit windy for crossings today, - ground. it may potentially be a bit windy for crossings today, but - ground. it may potentially be a bit| windy for crossings today, but over the past few weeks, it's thought up to ten people have lost their lives out there in the channel before yesterday plasma tragedy. that did not stop hundreds of people attempting the crossing yesterday. we know that many people were brought to people brought to —— we know that many people were brought to —— dover by the border force, the french authorities rescued 106 people in the channel but 27 were sadly pronounced dead. initially it was thought the death toll was 31, that was revised downwards overnight. when these boats take to the water, they are confusing situations, we know that people were found in the law to. but extremely worrying for the —— in the water. extremely worrying for authorities on both sides of the channel, we don't know where these people are from or why it capsized. they have been reports in the french media that it was potentially hit by container ship but the french authorities have not commented, they just say the boat was extremely fragile. they have been initiatives to try to stop the crossings, upping patrols on beaches in northern france and turning boats back at sea but that has not had any success. boats have not been turned back. so the authorities have a real challenge to prevent further tragedies as we head into winter. our political correspondent damian grammaticas is in westminster. as you are hearing from simon, so many initiatives have been put into place to try to prevent these crossings were taking place and now we hear borisjohnson chaired a meeting of the cobra committee last night, we understand crisis talks will be happening in france amongst ministers there, what next? i will be happening in france amongst ministers there, what next?- ministers there, what next? i think we will see — ministers there, what next? i think we will see a _ ministers there, what next? i think we will see a renewed _ ministers there, what next? i think we will see a renewed joint - ministers there, what next? i think we will see a renewed joint effort l we will see a renewed joint effort between the uk and france to try to come up with ways to deal with this. that will follow on from the lead given from that conversation between the prime minister and president macron in france yesterday, where they talked about stepping up joint work. the difficulty here is the uk side has been wanting to havejoint patrols, uk involvement on french beaches, joint patrols of boats in the channel, and that has not been acceptable to the french side. so short of that, what then is the action the uk can take? we see that there is, the home secretary has the nationalities and borders bill which is going through parliament, that will make it tougher for people trying to come through this route, to try to deter them. it will include measures such as a two tier system. so if you arrive on a boat across the channel, you'll get a lower status, you will have less records or no recourse to public funds to, less time in the uk, 30 months in the uk is what might be given. underthat months in the uk is what might be given. under that process. months in the uk is what might be given. underthat process. so months in the uk is what might be given. under that process. so the idea to try to make it less attractive. but we have had the home secretary and others talk for a long time about making this route not viable, and the difficulty there is, as you had, in that report, people still want to come despite those measures. and the most difficult thing, really, is removing people once they do come. the uk does not have, since brexit, agreements with eu countries to do that and send her back once they have crossed the channel. ., , ., , ., , channel. lots to explore -- send them back- _ channel. lots to explore -- send them back. lots _ channel. lots to explore -- send them back. lots to _ channel. lots to explore -- send them back. lots to explore - channel. lots to explore -- sendj them back. lots to explore here, thank you. english football needs an independent regulator to stop it "lurching from crisis to crisis". that's according to the chair of a fan—led review. former sports minister tracey crouch carried out the review after six premier league clubs caused a widespread outcry when they tried to form a breakaway european super league earlier this year. 0ur sports news editor dan roan has more. it's the most popular sport in the country, but with clubs going bust, and after the threat of a breakaway, scrutiny on football has intensified. the woman tasked with the landmark review of the english game told me it was time for a radical reform. we've seen football lurch from crisis to crisis over the last decade or so. and unfortunately, we haven't necessarily had the right levels of regulation in place to stop that crisis from happening. i think we've reached a point where people are saying, no more. crucially, crouch wants a powerful independent football regulator that would have stopped the attempt by the premier league's big six earlier this year tojoin the european super league. 0verseeing financial regulation, it could even block spending by owners deemed to be irresponsible. the regulator would enforce a beefed up owners' and directors' test for new buyers. 0ther proposals include a transfer levy to get more money from the premier league to the rest of the game, reform of parachute payments to relegated clubs, and fan empowerment through shadow boards and a so—called golden share. that would mean support a consent needed over key decisions, that would mean supporter consent needed over key decisions, such as a change of club name or stadium relocation, unlike in the past when wimbledon was infamously moved to milton keynes. and this season, a championship club that twice won the first division title in the 70s also fell into administration. derby county, for many, is sadly emblematic of a broken and unsustainable club system. one that encourages too many to overspend in the pursuit of promotion, and which shows why radical change is now needed the way that clubs are both financed and run. criticised for allowing the controversial recent saudi takeover of newcastle united, the premier league said the reforms mustn't damage the game. but with the government likely to support crouch, football seems set for momentous change. dan roan, bbc news. a jury in the us has found three white men guilty of murdering a black man as he jogged in the city of brunswick, georgia, last year. they claimed they were defending themselves while trying to perform a citizens' arrest on ahmaud arbery who they said "looked like a burglar". his death, along with that of george floyd in minneapolis, helped to inspire the black lives matter movement. 0ur north america correspondent aleem maqbool sent this report from georgia. 0433. there have been times when this moment seemed very different distant prospect. we the jury, find the defendant, travis mcmichael, guilty. whoo! the shout of relief came from the father of ahmaud arbery, who was shot dead in february of last year. two others were also found guilty of murder. they had all seen 25—year—old ahmaud running through the neighbourhood. and claimed he fitted the description of a crime suspect. they chased him and killed him. during the trial, the man who had fired the fatal shots, travis mcmichael, was the only one of the three to take to the witness stand. ishot him. why? he had my gun. he struck me, it looked obvious that he was a... it was obvious that he was attacking me, that if he would have got the shot gun from me, then it was a life or death situation. his justification was that he killed in self—defence. but of course, that was only after he, his father and a neighbour had chased ahmaud arbery in their pick—up trucks for five minutes. ahmaud's family waited more than ten weeks and had to rely on public pressure for the police to even make any arrests. i never thought this day would come. but god is good. yes, he is. and i just want to tell everybody, thank you, thank you for those who marched, those who prayed, most of all, the ones who prayed. yes. lord. — thank you, god, thank you. well, there may still be questions about the way the police behaved after this killing, questions about the underlying issues surrounding race in this society, that contributed to the killing. but for now, at least, all of those that for months have been calling forjustice for ahmaud arbery, there isjust a huge sense of relief. aleem maqbool, bbc news, brunswick, georgia. plans to modernise the british army will be outlined by the defence secretary ben wallace today, adding to the integrated defence review earlier this year. he'll announce an extra 500 troops on top of the 72,500 previously set out. this is still less than the current target of 82,000. the army says the announcement will lead to sweeping changes to the way it's organised and how it operates. a man will appear in court today charged with the murders of a couple who were attacked in their home while their young children slept upstairs. stephen and jennifer chapple suffered fatal stab wounds on sunday evening. colin reeves, who's 33, is due before magistrates in taunton. the government has set aside nearly £1.7 billion to allow the energy firm bulb to continue supplying customers. the company went into special administration yesterday which means it can continue trading until a buyer is found. bulb is the latest of 22 energy firms to fail since september following a spike in wholesale gas prices. let's take a look at some of today's front pages. they all lead on yesterday's tragedy in the channel. the daily telegraph quotes the prime minister saying france must "step up" and stop migrant crossings. the paper pictures two of the 255 people reported to have successfully made the journey to england yesterday. it's a "human tragedy" says the daily mirror's headline. the paper pictures children sitting in a dinghy that it says was launched "under the noses" of french police. no reason to believe that was the actual craft that sank. borisjohnson�*s comments also lead the daily mail. the picture shows a french police car appearing to stand idle behind a group of people placing a dinghy into the sea. according to the guardian, the french interior minister said the boat that sank had been "very frail" and compared it to an inflatable paddling pool. it is 16 minutes past six. now the weather with carol. certainly getting colder. and from that picture, windy of as well? absolutely, there is the potential of damaging weather this weekend, because of the strength of the wind and also some sleet and snow. not everyone will see it, an area of low pressure is coming our way, and what you get is dependent on the track of the low pressure. it is going to be cold. a cold start, some frost across cumbria, temperatures in some parts below freezing, and wintry showers dragged in on a northerly wind across the north of scotland. it will continue through the day, most of that on the hills. strong winds down the north sea coastline and the irish sea. 0n the far north of scotland, dragging in showers, most of which will be rain but we could see some wintriness on the north york moors. top temperatures fourin north york moors. top temperatures four in lerwick and nine in cardiff. clouds thickening by the end of the afternoon bringing rain to the north—west. through the evening and overnight, the rain will slip further south, and the wind is going to strengthen across parts of scotland and northern ireland, and the irish sea, gusting as much as 60 miles an hour. clearer skies in the far south—east, miles an hour. clearer skies in the farsouth—east, here miles an hour. clearer skies in the far south—east, here you could see a touch of frost and it will be another cold night. tomorrow the rain quickly pushes south, clearing at lunchtime. scattered showers behind, wintry on the hills. some of the wintriness in scotland could get down to lower levels. again windy across scotland, northern ireland and the of england, the met office has a yellow weather warning ad for this, but will get more windy and more unsettled friday night to saturday. thank you, see you later. we want to tell you now about a man called tony hickmott. he's 43 and he's been detained for the last 20 years, 100 miles from home. tony hasn't committed a crime. he has autism and he's held in a specialist hospital while his parents are desperately fighting to get him housed in their local community. sadly, tony's case is not unique. around 100 people in england have been held in specialist hospitals for at least two decades, as jayne mccubbin reports. 0njune 29 2001, time stood still for pam and roy. nine months, be away for nine months until they found him a suitable place in the brighton area, that's what we were told. but it was far from the truth. he's lived there longer now than he lived at home. you can't take that trauma away. june 29 was the day their son was detained in a specialist hospital. he is still there, 100 miles from home, two decades on. pam would say to him, "you're coming home soon, tone. in the summer, when the yellow flowers around, in your garden, that's when you'll be coming home." he used to... his face was glee, he was really happy and everything. but over the years, we've been telling him, now we tell him, he doesn't take no notice. happy birthday to you. happy birthday, mummy. the bbc has had to go to court to try and tell you this story. his family have had to go to court to try and bring him back to brighton. i love you. i love you too, tone. one week runs into a month, a month runs into a year. then that year went, then another year went. he speaks to us on the telephone at night, he describes all the rooms in the house. he explains what colour wallpaper i've got up. that's long gone. furniture, his memory is, that's all he's got, is home. he talks about the neighbours. all them neighbours have gone. they've died. i mean, we've travel back sometimes, we pull in, we both sit down and cry. i mean, i've come home, i've got pam, she's got me. he's got nobody. tony is in an assessment and treatment unit. they are really designed for short—term stays in a crisis. the problem here isn't tony but the system. psychiatrists say he has been fit for discharge since 2013. but the process of trying to get him his own place to live, with the right support, back here in brighton, has been bogged down in delays and wrangles. so this month, the family went to the court of protection to try and break the deadlock. there, a judge said the delays are facing tony have been egregious. that the progress made to date has been glacial. the bbc successfully challenged a court order which had prevented reporting of this case. lifting the anonymity order, thejudge said she had no doubt tony's case was in the public interest and it was clear that a lack of resources had left him detained for so long. tony's care right now is funded by the nhs, but ongoing support in the community would have to be paid for by the council, who told us... they are working with the nhs and tony's family to find other options. the judge has told them to get on with it, right? we've only got this limited time. we're still not doing it, we're still fighting over money. can you believe you're at stage where you had to go to court? to get him out and actually, none of the authorities thinks he should be in there? no. that's the problem. everyone we speak to, they say, this isn't the right place for tony. he shouldn't be here. but he is there. we used to sit and he used to draw sometimes, this house. we used to say, they're building the roof at the moment. how long does it take to build a roof? he doesn't believe that he's coming home. because it's gone on so long? yeah, he doesn't believe it any more. that must break your heart. yeah. it's a decade since bbc cameras captured the neglect and abuse of people with learning disabilities in winterbourne view. this event prompted the government to set ambitious targets, to move people into real homes with appropriate support. but those targets have been repeatedly missed, and tony is one of 2070 people still detained, 100 of those people, like tony, detained for more than 20 years. it's just appalling. these people are not criminals. they haven't got sentences through the criminaljustice process. they are stuck in services, just as people used to be stuck in the long—stay institutions. ultimately, these settings should not exist, and ifeel strongly about it because we have so much testimony from people with learning disabilities, people with autism, and theirfamilies, about how harmful their experience is, and has been, when they are removed from all that is familiar. nhs england told us they are continuing to work to find the highly specialised support required. the judge has ordered authorities finally find a plan to bring him back to brighton by may next year. tony's wait continues. when we visited tone and we're leaving, he pushes his face right to the window and watches us till we disappear. i can't look back. what have they done to all of us, the family? they've destroyed us. oh, dear. jayne mccubbin, bbc news. we should say a big thank you to roy and pam who very bravely shared their story with us and we will follow it going into the future as well. the time is 6:24am. we're entering the christmas party season which was a write—off last year because of covid. ben's taking a look at how the hospitality industry is gearing up for this year. explain where you are and what is happening there. good morning, can you believe it's that time of year again? welcome to swingers in west london, this place normally would be packed but it is quite at this time of day. here, they are full of parties, groups of people, workgroups, work parties, to make the most of this. it is a crazy golf place, djs and cocktails, all sorts of things going on. and this time of year, as you said, really important. they make a third of their money, hospitality businesses, at this time of year, before it gets quiet again injanuary and february. particularly important this year because last year was pretty much a write—off because of covid so they are really counting on this year to deliver. what we know so far about the kings this year? figures suggest they are down 4% on pre—pandemic levels, that is good news. there is some impact, smaller group sizes, less planning, peoplejust decided to have a party at short notice rather than planning too much and being disappointed. so far so good, people are coming back but there is a huge problem for the hospitality industry, and that is a shortage of staff. there are not enough staff to man places like this. shortage of about 200,000 hospitality staff, everything from chefs and pot washers to waiters and barmen. that is a real problem for the industry meaning they cannot accept all of the bookings they want to. that is certainly true for simon's hotel in yorkshire. he has lots of big bookings but he is having to turn some away because he does not have the staff. ~ , ., ., ., , _ the staff. whilst we have had a busy summer and — the staff. whilst we have had a busy summer and it _ the staff. whilst we have had a busy summer and it has _ the staff. whilst we have had a busy summer and it has been _ the staff. whilst we have had a busy summer and it has been a _ the staff. whilst we have had a busy summer and it has been a great - summer and it has been a great season and demand has been very good, we are basically still playing catch up. we desperately need a good christmas. partly to catch up and partly to put a bit in the bank to get us through the first quarter safely. christmas demand is looking good, the christmas numbers and bookings are up on previous years, there is definitely an appetite and demand for the public to get out and enjoy this christmas. talking to colleagues in the industry, there is a nervousness about whether we will have enough staff for the busy nights, friday and saturday, but overall it is encouraging. the demand seems to be there and people seem to be looking forward to a really good christmas this year. that is the view from yorkshire. let's talk about those issues with kate nichols, the chief executive to of uk hospitality. we ran through some figures there. it depends what sort of business you are, arrestment, pub and bar, and where you are in the country, what are you hearing from your members? it is hearing from your members? it is variable hearing from your members? it 3 variable depending on where you are and what could have a business you run. we know across the uk and across all types of businesses, normally we would be 90% —— 95% pre—booked for the christmas business period, and we are running at 80% said bookings are down, turnover and footfall is down but when visitors are coming out, demand is strong and people are looking for experiences and trading up and going premium. fix. experiences and trading up and going remium. �* . ., experiences and trading up and going remium. �* _, . ., ., .,, premium. a welcome change to last ear, we premium. a welcome change to last year. we were _ premium. a welcome change to last year, we were talking _ premium. a welcome change to last year, we were talking about - premium. a welcome change to last year, we were talking about it - premium. a welcome change to last year, we were talking about it and l year, we were talking about it and how difficult it was for the industry which was all but closed 12 months ago. industry which was all but closed 12 months age-— industry which was all but closed 12 months ago-— industry which was all but closed 12 months ao. , , ., months ago. yes, people were in and out of restrictions, _ months ago. yes, people were in and out of restrictions, variations - out of restrictions, variations across the country, people could not travel and that knocked consumer confidence for even those businesses that were open. to be looking ahead to a valuable trading period and know that we can get some trading under our belt and look forward to the new year with confidence is credibly helpful for those businesses who have struggled for so long. businesses who have struggled for so lonu. �* . businesses who have struggled for so [on _ �* ., ., ~' businesses who have struggled for so lon. �* ., ., ~ ., long. and we have talked about smaller groups _ long. and we have talked about smaller groups and _ long. and we have talked about smaller groups and a _ long. and we have talked about smaller groups and a bit - long. and we have talked about smaller groups and a bit less i smaller groups and a bit less planning, people turning up on a whim, that is difficult for the industry? it whim, that is difficult for the indust ? , ., ., whim, that is difficult for the industry?— whim, that is difficult for the indust ? , ., , industry? it is hard to plan. this eriod is industry? it is hard to plan. this period is normally _ industry? it is hard to plan. this period is normally 95% - industry? it is hard to plan. this - period is normally 95% pre-booked, period is normally 95% pre—booked, we know that people will turn up and we know that people will turn up and we are still seeing high levels of cancellation. we are not seeing the large corporate parties and bookings where people would take out the whole of the venue. so smaller groups, departments or small businesses rather than a full companies, and the fact that you don't have those corporate bookings means that the big event spaces are struggling. the means that the big event spaces are stru~lin~. , means that the big event spaces are stru~lin-. , ., ., means that the big event spaces are stru~lin~. , ., ., ., , struggling. the staff shortage means that the industry _ struggling. the staff shortage means that the industry will _ struggling. the staff shortage means that the industry will have _ struggling. the staff shortage means that the industry will have to - struggling. the staff shortage means that the industry will have to turn - that the industry will have to turn away some good bookings? that that the industry will have to turn away some good bookings? that is the cruellest of ironies, _ away some good bookings? that is the cruellest of ironies, we _ away some good bookings? that is the cruellest of ironies, we are _ away some good bookings? that is the cruellest of ironies, we are open, - cruellest of ironies, we are open, restrictions are lifted and people are turning away bookings even at this stage and even with bookings down, simply because they do not have the staff to accommodate them. if interims —— event catering, hotel rooms, pubs, bars and reference, a quarter of the businesses are having to cut down hours because of labour shortages. to cut down hours because of labour shortaaes. . ~ to cut down hours because of labour shortaaes. ., ~ , ., , to cut down hours because of labour shortaaes. . ~ ,, , . shortages. thank you very much, we will talk to you _ shortages. thank you very much, we will talk to you later. _ shortages. thank you very much, we will talk to you later. a _ shortages. thank you very much, we will talk to you later. a bit _ shortages. thank you very much, we will talk to you later. a bit of- will talk to you later. a bit of pace, the kings are back up after a difficult year but as kate was —— bookings a backup but as kate was explaining, there are difficulties. thank you very much, see you later on. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, i'm sonja jessup. an officer from scotland yard's parliamentary and diplomatic protection command who'd been charged with rape has now been accused of sexually assaulting three more women. hertfordshire police has confirmed pc david carrick has been charged with an additional 13 sexual assault offences. he's due before westminster magistrates tomorrow. as londoners face a tube drivers' strike tomorrow, the mayor has called for further talks with the rmt union. the action's due to affect the central, jubilee, northern, piccadilly and victoria lines— as well as the relaunch of the night tube on saturday. the dispute is over rosters and night tube duties. 0ur message is the rmt, talk to us, come back round the table, tfl, all of them have accepted that the night tube needs to return and accepted that the rosters and the economy of the night tube, but also women safety. several self defence clubs have told the bbc they've seen a rise in the number of women taking up self defence classes, amidst continuing headlines about women's safety. one group in south east london says enquiries are up by 75%. i think ithinki i think i started to feel a bit more unsafejust i think i started to feel a bit more unsafe just walking around by myself, especially in winter, in the evening when it is getting dark, and just feeling i did not know what i would do if someone were to try to attack me. i bought a rape alarm, but i don't have any other idea what i would do in this situation i wanted to be a bit more empowered to take care of myself. wembley park will be lit up tonight with the return of the christmas lights trail �*winterfest�*. it's centrepiece is a 25 foot tree. the big switch on happens at 7 o clock tonight with free live performances. travel now. the metropolitan line has severe delays between moor park to chesham and watford — not enough trains running again. 0nto the weather now with elizabeth rizzini good morning. it's been a very cold week of weather so far across the capital and things are only set to turn chile are still as we head through the rest of it but there will be some sunshine around at times, notably today. it's another cold, frosty start to the morning for many of us especially towards northern home counties where we saw the cloud clear first. northern home counties where we saw the cloud clearfirst. further south in a claudia picture and it will clear southwards and a slightly milder start to the day but lots of sunshine emerging just about everywhere and a bit more cloud for the afternoon and in noticeable northerly wind so some will ? wind chill to factor into the temperatures and it will feel cold and highs of six or 7 c. as we head through the evening and overnight, watch out for a sharp frost developing for the first half of the night with temperatures dropping below freezing in a few spots but then there will be more cloud into friday morning itself and on friday we have an area of low pressure that will give a strong, gusty winds and some outbreaks of rain that will fall as rain and temperatures ever so slightly higher but not a great day of weather and plenty of added wind—chill but windier still as we go into saturday. watch out for some showers as it will be feeling cold and some of the showers could be wintry on the higher ground. more from me in half an hour, and you can check out our website too. hello this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. the first part of the long—awaited beatles documentary "get back" is released today. it's made by the lord of the rings director peterjackson who has given his only uk tv interview to the bbc. we've got a different "fab four" on the sofa before nine as westlife drop in for a chat about their new album. and we'll hear the story of the wartime pantomimes which featured two real princesses — elizabeth, now the queen, and her sister margaret. let's return to our main story now — and throughout this morning we'll be bringing you reaction to the terrible events in the channel yesterday. 27 people drowned while they were trying to enter the uk illegally, having set off from northern france in a small boat. we can speak now to jean—marc puissesseau who is head of the ports of calais and and boulogne. good morning to you and thank you so much for your time this morning. i know you are a very busy man. can i ask you first your reaction to what happened yesterday? you ask you first your reaction to what happened yesterday?— ask you first your reaction to what happened yesterday? you know, i am ersonall happened yesterday? you know, i am personally very. _ happened yesterday? you know, i am personally very. very _ happened yesterday? you know, i am personally very, very sad, _ happened yesterday? you know, i am personally very, very sad, but - personally very, very sad, but between us i can tell you that we thought it would happen one day, because these people they are taking such enormous risks to get to europe and to get to your country. when they leave their country it is because they are suffering their and they have only one idea and wish, to get to your country and they are ready to risk their lives, as they did yesterday. it is 20 years that we have had migrants coming to calais and we have only one wish, to get to your country. and it's really time that europe and the uk together, that we try to get together, that we try to get together and solve the problem. these people arriving in calais, 0k, 0k they get something to eat and we take care of their health and it is sanitary, but we don't get them anything else. i think it should be anything else. i think it should be a european enterprise to bring them to a special centre and they can be informed that it is not possible to get to england and to give them their rights and tell them what they have to do and also maybe if the english authorities in the centre in order to help them to select them and when i say select, to understand what they are wanting to do or what they are able to do and if they have family but it is possible that we know these people are crossing europe and they come to calais and thenit europe and they come to calais and then it is tough because there is then it is tough because there is the sea and it is very, very safe in the sea and it is very, very safe in the port and we are controlling a truck and it is very difficult and now through through the smugglers, these murderous smugglers, now they try to cross and i say they are murderers because yesterday, to let people cross in such a small boat with the weather, we know that everybody knows in the middle of us in the channel, it's more and more dangerous even if the wind is not blowing so strong. but there is the big danger and that happened yesterday. and i hope that europe and borisjohnson will discuss together. we cannot let the people arriving calais and say stop, its not possible. you are not allowed to get to great britain. we have to take care of them. can get to great britain. we have to take care of them.— get to great britain. we have to take care of them. can i ask you and i take care of them. can i ask you and i understand — take care of them. can i ask you and i understand you _ take care of them. can i ask you and i understand you have _ take care of them. can i ask you and i understand you have spoken - i understand you have spoken directly to some of those involved in the rescue yesterday, so what can you tell us about what they saw, the vessel that these people were using and what did they see? this vessel that these people were using and what did they see?— and what did they see? as far as i know, and what did they see? as far as i know. because — and what did they see? as far as i know, because it _ and what did they see? as far as i know, because it was _ and what did they see? as far as i know, because it was yesterday, l and what did they see? as far as i l know, because it was yesterday, we know, because it was yesterday, we know when it arrived, because one of our sailing ships, how do you say, went out and crossed, and i think there were boats from your country there were boats from your country there and the little boats, they would sink, because there was water getting in and ultimately they try to get the water out and they were of course more people than normal and the boat sank into their and i think about 50 people. and we hope they are still alive, yes. i tell you, they are ready to do everything to get your country. that is why we have to protect them and we have to organise when they are arriving in calais and not enough control has been done before in greece or spain or italy and we have to have an international organisation to take care of them. . international organisation to take care of them-— international organisation to take care of them. , can you explain to the audience _ care of them. , can you explain to the audience here, _ care of them. , can you explain to the audience here, you _ care of them. , can you explain to the audience here, you ahead - care of them. , can you explain to the audience here, you ahead of. care of them. , can you explain to i the audience here, you ahead of the ports in calais and boulogne and you see these people every day either being brought back, hopefully saved, but this is something that you see all the time. but this is something that you see all the time-— but this is something that you see all the time. , , , ., all the time. yes, we see every day, ou know all the time. yes, we see every day, you know you _ all the time. yes, we see every day, you know you are — all the time. yes, we see every day, you know you are controlling - all the time. yes, we see every day, you know you are controlling each i you know you are controlling each trucking calais and that is another problem because we don't get any support from anyone to do thatjob and i don't want to do further, and thatis and i don't want to do further, and that is one point but for us we are opening each truck and we discover migrants but now they are trying with a little boats and to survey all of the coast, it is enormous and when i am listening, it is a shame the french are not controlling and why don't the english forces help and they should not come and help them, it is enormous, the smugglers are so proficient now and they arrive and within ten or 15 minutes they are on the boat and they try to cross, and that is 100 kilometres of bushes and forested control. i can tell you there are a lot of controls but i think we have to, when the migrants arriving close to calais, i think they should immediately be brought to a specialised centre and we have to welcome them and it must be an international centre where they can ask authorisation to get your country, maybe it can be done, but we cannot have the people arriving in calais and trying to get your country. it's not more possible. and if the death of this 27 people can help, and it is a pity we have to wait until people die, but if that can help, they are all concerned and all discussing these human problem, that will be a big step. human problem, that will be a big ste. . ~ human problem, that will be a big ste. ., ~' ,, human problem, that will be a big ste. ., ,, i. human problem, that will be a big ste. . ~ . human problem, that will be a big ste. ., ,, . ., human problem, that will be a big ste. . . ., step. thank you so much for your time this morning. _ step. thank you so much for your time this morning. very - step. thank you so much for your time this morning. very good - time this morning. very good speaking to you and good luck with the work you are doing. the head of the work you are doing. the head of the ports of calais and boulogne speaking to us this morning. good morning. mike will bring us up to date with the sport and we have had to uk team is doing very well. liverpool had won their group and done theirjob, but they overcame psg with their attacking line to win their group as well and it's important because you get the advantage when it comes to the ceiling in the draw for the last 16. and manchester city will be in the pot to face runners—up, but how they tamed the likes of lionel messi and company. it was a night when messi and co were second best to manchester city who like liverpool won their champions league group to give them an advantage when it comes to the draw for the knock out stage. city beating paris saint germain 2—1 while liverpool scored one of the goals of the night as they saw off porto. 0ur sports corresponent andy swiss reports. a night of intrigue at the etihad.. manchester city facing paris st germain whose manager mauricio pochettino is one of the favourite for the vacant manchester united post but his current job soon seen sickly enough as city dominated the first half. riyadh mahrez then gundagon even nearer so near but still goalless at the break. after it though psg's stars finally struck. lionel messi finding kylian mbappe with thumping results. against the run of play the visitors were ahead but not for long as city is thrillingly stirred once more and this time they made it count. raheem sterling transforming the mancunian mood. excited? just a bit. so could city find a winner. with 15 minutes left gabrieljesus provided the perfect answer. jesus scores. a 2—1 win for city sealing their qualification and exhilarating fashion. as for liverpool the top spot in their group already guarantee they eased to a 2—9 win against porto. a stunnerfrom thiago and anotherfrom mo salah and all four english teams into the knockout stage then. could it once again be their year? now as you may have heard earlier the other big football story this morning is this review of the way football is governed in england which has concluded that an independent regulator is needed to ensure the financial sustainability of the men 5 game across the leagues to make it fairerfor all and to give fans a say in the way teams are run. nesta mcgregor has more. the hammers' first goal! the game itself has changed much over the past 150 years but one thing in football has remained constant, the relationship between supporter and club. although recently that has been tested. look no further than protests against ownership, breakaway leagues or a club's financial health. all of which led to a government review into how football in england is run. ultimately it will ensure that football clubs have good financial regulation in place, that it will have good corporate governance, will have to engage with fans which are a core part of the conversation in terms of this review, so i really think it will strengthen football, english football as we go forward into the future. since the end of the 2018—2019 season gigg lane, the home of bury football club has remained unused. the club went out of business after running into financial trouble. some say had football had an independent regulator the club might still exist today. the lancashire—based club was sold forjust £1. unpaid wages and mounting debts then led to it being expelled from the league. lots of football clubs and lots of football supporters around the country will be wondering what the big fuss is about with this particular review. my message to them is you don't know what you have until you lose it. it's more profound than people realise. several other well—known clubs have vanished from the footballing landscape. a collapse that not only of affects but the local community and its economy. ever present in the premier league, arsenal have a crowded trophy cabinet and plenty of money in the bank but they need too recognise the need for a healthy football pyramid built on firm foundations. their institutions they are part of the social fabric in the country. it's really hard thing at the time of the super league but arsenal fans weren't just fighting for arsenal we were fighting but all of football. english football is based on the pyramid and sporting merit promotion and relegation. there is no point in having an arsenal if you don't have a spurs or west ham or chelsea or leicester to hopefully beat as well. so we are all in this together and we recognise the common duty to look after football as well as look after arsenal. mps will now consider tracey crouch's recommendations before deciding when, if or how they could be implemented although getting all the relevant players on side could prove tricky. nestor mcgregor, bbc news. that is the key point. proposals are one thing the action is another and they still need everyone to come on board to make the proposals turn into action but a big step and broadly welcomed by lots of different football clu bs broadly welcomed by lots of different football clubs and bodies. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. it is definitely getting colder. definitely feeling wintry. you are ri . ht definitely feeling wintry. you are riaht on definitely feeling wintry. you are right on all— definitely feeling wintry. you are right on all counts, _ definitely feeling wintry. you are right on all counts, as _ definitely feeling wintry. you are right on all counts, as ever- definitely feeling wintry. you are right on all counts, as ever and l definitely feeling wintry. you are l right on all counts, as ever and on saturday there will be a severe wind chill and you will notice the difference, and we will give you a heads up on what is happening this week and into the weekend and there are the risks of gales of severe gales and some of us will see rain and snow and it's been a cold night and snow and it's been a cold night and you can see how through the course of the day the blues move across the whole of the uk and it will turn colder than it has been on these are the temperatures if you are just walking out and bridge foot in cumbria is —3 and a new key in the south—west, it is plus seven at the south—west, it is plus seven at the moment so some of us are starting with a touch of frost and some of us starting with snow. the snow showers have been growing through the course of the night through the course of the night through northern scotland dragging on a cold northerly wind and some of these might get back to lower levels for a time before they retreat into the hills but if you are anywhere near the windward coast, that is where you will see showers and it could be wintry in the north york moors and also the hills in northern ireland but for the bulk of the uk, as well as being a uk, it will be a sunny one, crisp, dry, and quite pleasant for this time of year and the kind of weather you would expect at this time of year. as we head through the evening and overnight the cloud will have gathered bringing in rain across the north west and that will be sinking steadily south through the night and increasingly we will see wintry showers across scotland again and some of those getting down to lower levels although showers, not all of us will see them and it will be cold enough skies in the south for a touch of frost the wind again is feature of the weather particularly across parts of scotland and northern ireland and the irish sea coastline and if anything as we have three tomorrow it will continue to be so. we have this area of low pressure and the front sinking south and the exact position where they land will determine what you get and where the strongest winds are and if you see sleet or snow. so tomorrow we start with all of the rain pushing away quite quickly by lunchtime and if we follow it around it is wrapped around an area of low pressure and that is a weather front which will bring in more snow, increasingly to lower levels across the north and west of scotland and on friday the met office has a weather warning out for wind across scotland, northern ireland and parts of northern england and we could have gusts up to 60mph, possibly 70, and you can see further showers as we push further south. thru friday night and saturday, here is the low pressure and we still have this front wrapped around it and we are looking at snow showers at lower levels across parts of scotland and in some of the other showers dotted around we will see snow but mostly on the hills. still very windy, especially out towards the west with gusts to gale force, if not severe gales. as we head through the rest of friday night, you can see how the rain, sleet and snow pushes further south and the wind is still strong, straight northerly and it will be cold and there will be frost around as well, so lots going on with the weather and on saturday the rain, sleet and snow pushes to the south, still windy and most of the showers will be across the north sea coastline and some of those could be wintry but we will see a few getting into wales and the south—west and the met office has a yellow warning out for almost the whole of the uk on saturday for the wind and the strength of the gusts could potentially be damaging or disruptive, except for the south—east. that could change, so keep an eye on the forecast as we head into sunday. iforgot keep an eye on the forecast as we head into sunday. i forgot i keep an eye on the forecast as we head into sunday. iforgot i had this chart. this is the wind chill. it will feel raw during the course of saturday, like below freezing that on sunday things settle down and the low pressure moves away and high pressure starts to build in and it will still be cold, but not as windy. beatles fans — the wait is over. for more than half a century nearly 60 hours of footage which shows the band making the "let it be" album has remained in a vault. now it's been restored and made into a three—part documentary by peterjackson who directed the lord of the rings trilogy. the first part comes out today on disney+ and peterjackson has given his only uk tv interview about it to our entertainment correspondent colin paterson. # get back. we'll have to do it sitting down. or we will get too excited. the sounds, the colours, thejoy of the beatles making music unseen for more than half a century. ringo said we thought we just had to tell it like it is. the man entrusted to restore almost 60 hours of footage from the let it be sessions injanuary 1969, the lord of the rings director, peterjackson. what made you want to dedicate four years of your life to this project? well, i wouldn't have done if it was the rolling stones or something. bit controversial, sorry. a musical documentary is not of huge appeal to me to me but the beatles, yeah, i'm100%. four years no problem. i've loved every second of it. # speaking words of wisdom... do you want it more heavy? we will never get - a chance to do it again. the project almost happened by mistake. peterjackson was meeting with the beatles company apple to discuss the possibility of a virtual reality exhibition. so cats and kittens ? but as a beatles obsessive he took his chance to find out something he always wanted to know what happened to the outtakes from the 1970 beatles documentary let it be. they said to me well yes we've got it all which was great. as a fan i was sat there thinking yes "you've got it all." they were thinking about using it for a documentary a stand—alone documentary and they didn't have a film—maker attached so it's the only time i have ever done this and i put my hand up and said if you're looking for somebody please think of me. just say whatever comes into your head each time. try into your head each time. to be a cauliflower until get try to be a cauliflower until you get the — try to be a cauliflower until you get the word. peterjackson was offered the job the same day. his only concern he'd always been turn that the making of the let it be album was a gloomy time of the beatles but when he sat down to watch the outtakes what surprised him was just how much fun everyone was having. if the footage showed everyone a truly miserable band not wanting to be doing what they were doing, i wouldn't have made the movie. that's not the movie i wanted to make. i was amazed and surprised to see the footage showing a very different story to what i believed for a0 years. it's going to be such a comical thing in 50 years' time they broke up because yoko sat on the amp. paul mccartney said watching this documentary has changed his perception of the break—up of the beatles. that's quite a thing. when i talk to ringo or paul about their memories generally of 1969 they talk to me and they say i think you are remembering the movie let it be from 1970 because you're obviously saw it and i think what you have brought us is a let it be is where you are unhappy in may 1970 there was arguments there was lawyers, it was clearly a very stressful and miserable time for you guys. you're not remembering this was a perfectly happy time and this was not a band who were going to break up when you see this and that's what you see on screen. now going to tape the beatles, so be quiet. oh, so you're recording our conversation? - and the secret nature of much of the filming allowed a unique insight into what it was really like to be in the studio with the beatles. looking for a blast from the past? they hit the button and had ten minutes then go away and have a cup of tea so the beatles would think that guy's not got the camera sitting there so they would loosen up and feel that they weren't being filmed and they could be honest with each other. and it's when they don't know that they are being filmed when you get amazing bits and an amazing insight into the individuals in the band. what did you learn about the beatles then from those moments? i mean i learned in january 1969 they were unbelievably normal people. they were liverpool guys. there is a psychic connection between them where they don't have to talk to each other to know what they are thinking and what to do. it's a strong depth of that friendship that really struck me. the best bit of us always has been and always will be is when we our backs are against the wall. all we've got is us. what do you think? in the end there was so much footage that get back has been divided into three parts and there is one other trilogy that links peterjackson to the beatles. 0ne real curiosity, in the 1960s, the beatles actually wanted to make a lord of the rings movie directed by stanley kubrick. what do you know about that? i've been scraping together little pieces of information and interrogating paul about it. when they went to india, when they stayed in india for three months with the maharishi in the beginning of 1968, john paul and george each got one lord of the rings book to read in india and they got excited about it and ultimately they couldn't get the rights from tolkien, because tolkien didn't like the idea of a pop group during his story. paul as frodo and john as gollum. i believe. apparently. how different your life might have been had they made the movie. when i spoke to paul about it he said i'm glad i didn't do it and you got to you do yours and i like your film, but i don't know. and i said to him it's a shame you didn't do it because what would the soundtrack be like? that would have been 1a or 15 beatles songs that would have been pretty incredible to listen to. one, two, three, four. peterjackson, thank you very much for speaking to us. you are very welcome. thank you. asa as a dating seeing those images and you know peterjackson is a top director and you know that from the quality of the zoom. episode one is released on disney plus at eight o'clock this morning. and episode two will be tomorrow and episode three comes after that. the thing about that is, paul mccartney endorsing it by saying it made him think differently about the time he was living. which is quite something.— was living. which is quite somethina. ,. , ., , something. reminiscing, you see thins something. reminiscing, you see things differently. _ something. reminiscing, you see things differently. enough - something. reminiscing, you see things differently. enough of - something. reminiscing, you see things differently. enough of the | things differently. enough of the philosophy. we will be back at seven with the headlines. good morning, i'm sonja jessup. an officer from scotland yard's parliamentary and diplomatic protection command accused of raping a woman he met on tinder has been accused of sexually assaulting three more women. pc david carrick, from stevenage, appeared in court last month on the initial charge which he denied. police say a further three women have now come forward and made similar complaints against him. as londoners face the first of series of tube drivers' strike tomorrow, the mayor has called for further talks with the rmt union. it'll affect the central, jubilee, northern, piccadilly and victoria lines as well as the relaunch of the night tube on saturday. it's over changes to working hours which the rmt says are unfair. 0ur message to the rmt is talk to us, come back round the table, talk to tfl. all of the unions have accepted that the night tube needs to return and accepted that the rosters. they understand the importance to the nighttime economy of the night tube, but also women's safety. several self defence clubs have told the bbc they've seen a rise in the number of women taking up classes amidst continuing headlines about women's safety. one group in south east london says enquiries are up by 75 percent. i think i started to feel a bit more unsafe just walking around by myself, especially coming into winter, in the evening when it is getting dark, and just feeling i did not know what i would do if someone were to try to attack me. i bought a rape alarm, but i don't have any other idea what i would do in that situation. i wanted to feel a bit more empowered to take care of myself. wembley park will be lit up tonight with the return of the christmas lights trail �*winterfest�*. its centrepiece is a 25 foot tree. the big switch on happens at 7 o'clock tonight. travel now. the metropolitan line has minor delays between moor park to chesham and watford, not enough trains running again. time for the weather now with elizabeth rizzini. good morning. it's been a very cold week of weather so far across the capital and things are only set to turn chillier still as we head through the rest of it but there will be some sunshine around at times, notably today. it's another cold, frosty start to the morning for many of us especially towards northern home counties where we saw the cloud clear first. further south a cloudier picture and it will clear southwards and a slightly milder start to the day but lots of sunshine emerging just about everywhere and a bit more cloud for the afternoon and a noticeable northerly wind so some wind chill to factor into the temperatures and it will feel cold and highs of six or 7 c. as we head through the evening and overnight, watch out for a sharp frost developing for the first half of the night with temperatures dropping below freezing in a few spots but then there will be more cloud into friday morning itself and on friday we have an area of low pressure that will give us strong, gusty winds and some outbreaks of rain that will fall as rain and temperatures ever so slightly higher but not a great day of weather and plenty of added wind—chill but windier still as we go into saturday. watch out for some showers as it will be feeling cold and some of the showers could be wintry on the higher ground. more from me in half an hour. and you can check out our website. good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. 0ur headlines today. britain and france agree to step up efforts to stop people crossing the channel after 27 men, women and a child drowned when their boat sank as they tried to reach the uk. protestors held a vigil in calais overnight. french ministers will hold crisis talks in this morning. translation: the first people responsible for this despicable | situation are the smugglers. we'll be hearing from the people trying to reach the uk about why they're willing to risk their lives crossing the world's busiest shipping lane in tiny inflatable boats. where are you going now? the uk. english football needs an independent regulator to stop it "lurching from crisis to crisis" — that's according to a fan—led review into the sport. while the city slickers make it a miserable night for messi in the champions league. raheem sterling proves his worth as manchester city and liverpool both win to top their champions league groups. will the christmas party get started this year? bookings are backed up after a tough 18 months for the hospitality industry. many firms worn shortage of staff means they cannot operate at full capacity. we have got a real blast of winter coming our way over the next few days, turning colder, some of us seeing some rain, sleet or snow and severe gales. today is quieter, a fair bit of sunshine, a few showers and windy along the coast. it's thursday the 25th of november. our main story. the prime minister and president macron of france have agreed to step up joint efforts to prevent illegal crossings of the channel after at least 27 people drowned when their boat capsized off the coast of northern france. four suspected traffickers have been arrested on suspicion of being linked to the sinking. jon donnison has the latest. along the northern french coast, the search for the missing went on after dark. but with temperatures in single digits, the chance of finding anyone alive increasingly remote. at least 27 bodies have been recovered. the biggest loss of life in the channel since it became the preferred route of people traffickers. translation: the first people responsible for this despicable | situation other smugglers. situation are the smugglers. that is to say, criminals who, for a few thousand euros, organise the trafficking of human beings from iraq, afghanistan, africa and asia. it's thought around 25 boats like this set off from the beaches of northern france yesterday. where are you going now? the uk. this one, we know, made it across the channel, but it's a treacherous journey, across one of the world's busiest shipping lanes. this disaster underscores how dangerous it is to cross the channel in this way. and it also shows how vital it is that we now step up our efforts to break the business model of the gangsters who are sending people to sea in this way. last night, the government's cobra emergency committee met, and the prime minister held an urgent phone call with the french president emmanuel macron. downing street said the two men agreed to step up joint efforts to prevent the crossings. any decisions made? evening. and to stop the gangs putting people's lives at risk. but people the bbc spoke to at this calais migrant camp last night said they would keep trying to reach the uk. uday said he attempted to cross earlier this week but gave up because the waves were too high. we need to create safe and legal routes for people to get here, through planned resettlement programmes and family reunion. and we also need to have a safe and fair asylum system here so that people, when they've made theirjourneys, can claim asylum and be fairly assessed. in calais last night, people demanding refugees be better treated held a vigil for those who died. after a year of record numbers crossing the channel, people on all sides of the argument have warned this was a tragedy waiting to happen. jon donnison, bbc news. we'll speak to lucy williamson in calais shortly. but first let'sjoin simon jones in dover. good morning. i know this is a story that you have covered not only over the last 24—hour is but for many weeks and months in the past. the awful reality is, more people will be trying to make that very small crossing today.— crossing today. yes, the deaths don't seem _ crossing today. yes, the deaths don't seem to _ crossing today. yes, the deaths don't seem to have _ crossing today. yes, the deaths don't seem to have put - crossing today. yes, the deaths don't seem to have put people | crossing today. yes, the deaths i don't seem to have put people off. in recent weeks, it's thought up to ten people have died attempting to reach the uk out there in the sea, but yesterday, hundreds more did try to make the crossing. we know scores of people were brought here to dover ljy of people were brought here to dover by the border force and the lifeboat. the french authorities said they rescued 106 people from the channel in french waters. sadly, though, 27 people lost their lives including five women and a young girl. initially the french authorities said they thought 31 people had died, overnight the figure was reduced to 27, still an awful death toll. i think that gives you a sense of the confusing picture that faced the authorities when they were called to the incident by a passing fishing boat. when these boats take to the water, they are often dangerously overloaded. it appears in this case, the boat was particularly flimsy, that is how it was described as the french authorities. we don't know much about the people who were on board the boat. it will be quite a task to discover their identities. 0ften discover their identities. often people take to the water without any form of identification, trying to get over here to the uk. i think the authorities here have been surprised that these crossings have continued in quite the numbers they have, now we are in autumn. in previous years, once we got to november and december, the number of people making crossings has fallen dramatically. i think it reflects that this is now an all year round route because it is so lucrative. the people smugglers charging each migrantaround the people smugglers charging each migrant around £3000 to get on board the boat. 0ur france correspondent lucy williamson is in calais. good morning. bring us up to date in terms of what has been said locally in calais, but also by the french government this morning. we are startin: to government this morning. we are starting to get — government this morning. we are starting to get some _ government this morning. we are starting to get some suggestions| government this morning. we are l starting to get some suggestions of who the victims might be. there are reports in the local press here that they were mostly from the middle east, one report suggests they may have been kurdish people from iraq and iran, and the two survivors in hospital are believed to be a somali and an iraqi, that needs to be confirmed. we know the bodies have been taken to lille, along with the boat as well, for autopsy and investigation into how it sank. you heard from simon saying it was a flimsy and fragile boat, the kind that smugglers here often use and have made to transport people across the channel. in paris, the prime minister will be holding a crisis meeting. the interior ministries of france and britain are both due to speak later today. the lyc e has put out a statement between the phone call between president macron and borisjohnson call between president macron and boris johnson yesterday with macron telling mrjohnson that the two countries had a shared responsibility and telling mr johnson, he expected the uk to fully cooperate and stop using the situation for political ends. thank ou ve situation for political ends. thank you very much- — you very much. we understand what is happening in france with that crisis meeting. 0ur political correspondent damian grammaticas is in westminster. the emergency cobra committee met last night chaired by borisjohnson, and lots of conversations, and perhaps now even more of an effort to come to some sort of agreement about how to deal with this problem? there have been discussions and talk for several years now about more cooperation. 0ne for several years now about more cooperation. one of the difficulties is, as barack 0bama and was hinting, this all fits into a —— as president macron was hinting, this fits into some difficulties with brexit. we do not now have a return agreement so we are not able to send people back. 0nly five people have been returned so far this year. where does that leave it? the possibility of turning boats back is not possible, that is illegal under international law. so talk about cooperation, difficult again for what the uk wants which is uk personnel operating on french territory. 0n the other side are those who say, it isn't an offence for people to come and seek asylum, and to seek it in the uk so therefore perhaps one route that the uk should look at is opening more avenues for legal, safe reunification for families, avenues for legal, safe reunification forfamilies, people reunification for families, people who reunification forfamilies, people who want to come here. that might be another way of deterring this. thank ou ve another way of deterring this. thank you very much. _ another way of deterring this. thank you very much, damien. _ english football needs an independent regulator to give fans more say in the way the teams they support are run. that's according to a fan—led review, which the government set up after six big premier league clubs tried to form a breakaway european super league while many clubs in lower divisions were in severe financial hardship. a jury in the us has found three white men guilty of murdering a black man as he was jogging in the city of brunswick, georgia, last year. they claimed they were trying to make a citizen's arrest on 25—year—old ahmaud arbery who they said "looked like a burglar". his death, along with that of george floyd in minneapolis helped to inspire the black lives matter movement. mr arbery�*s mother spoke outside court after the verdict. i never thought this day would come. but god is good. yes, he is. and i just want to tell everybody, thank you, thank you for those who marched, those who prayed, most of all, the ones who prayed. yes. lord. — thank you, god, thank you. the defence secretary ben wallace will announce plans today to recruit an extra 500 army troops on top of the 72,500 previously set out. this is still less than the current target of 82,000. the army says the announcement will lead to sweeping changes to the way it's organised and how it operates. a man will appear in court today charged with the murders of a couple who were attacked in their home while their young children slept upstairs. stephen and jennifer chapple suffered fatal stab wounds on sunday evening. colin reeves, who's 3a, is due before magistrates in taunton. the duke of cambridge has been discussing the mental health pressures of working on the frontline with two emergency workers ahead of a conference organised by his royalfoundation. in footage released by kensington palace, prince william spoke to a paramedic and an emergency care assistant and reflected on his own experiences as an air ambulance pilot. when i was in the air ambulance, any jobi when i was in the air ambulance, any job i went to the children, that really affected me, much more than i think if i hadn't had children. so for me, it was the relation of my personal life with effectively the family or the incident i was at. i found it very difficult. there were a number of times when i had to take myself away because i was just getting too involved in it, feeling it. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. good morning. good morning. as we head into this weekend, the weather is certainly going to take a turn for a more wintry scene. it will turn colder, the risk of gales and severe gales, some of us will see spells of rain, sleet and slow. the exact track of the weather front will determine what you get to keep watching the forecast. we have had wintry showers in the north of scotland, we have showers coming in across the coasts, and it is a cold northerly coming our way today. some of the showers will be wintry on higher ground in the highlands. we could see some wintriness in the north york moors and the hills in northern ireland. for most of us, it will be cold and dry, crisp, good visibility and a fair bit of sunshine. these are the temperatures, four to nine degrees. cloud and rain gathering already in the north—west will start to push south overnight, some wintriness behind it even to lower levels in parts of scotland, and the wind will become a feature of the weather because part of scotland, northern ireland and the irish sea. clear skies in the south—east means they will have a touch of frost but we will have a touch of frost but we will start with sunshine. that will be short lived because the weather front will push southwards. if we follow the weather front round, it wraps around the low pressure bringing some more snow across northern and western scotland. some of that will be at low levels. further south, some showers could be wintry on the hills. tomorrow the wind will be a feature again. the bet office has a weather warning out for the wind across scotland, northern ireland and northern england. widely, gusts 50 to 60 miles an houra england. widely, gusts 50 to 60 miles an hour a grand the coast, some could have 70 to 80 —— around the coast, some could have 70 to 80 miles an hour. an unsettled period of the coming our way. charlie... carroll, thank you so much, sorry, i can't believe i cold you charlie! —— called you charlie! sorry! let's return now to that tragedy in the channel which has prompted the leaders of britain and france to agree on the need to "urgently step—up" theirjoint efforts to prevent people from crossing. the prime minister borisjohnson spoke to president emmanuel macron by phone last night. but what sort of measures would make a difference? let's get a view from the dover mp natalie elphicke, and zoe gardner, from thejoint council for the welfare of immigrants. good morning to you both. as many people have said, it is a day that perhaps was inevitable, because of what has been happening, and the number of crossings that we are seeing over the channel. natalie elphicke, what do you think needs to be done now? we know the uk is talking and there are crisis talks in france, the hope is now that some coordination can be improved. weill. coordination can be improved. well, yesterday's — coordination can be improved. well, yesterday's tragedy _ coordination can be improved. well, yesterday's tragedy cannot - coordination can be improved. h yesterday's tragedy cannot be repeated and we need to have an urgent and swift action to make sure that these boats are not entering the water. here in dover, it is windy, rainy, and it is extremely cold. people should not be in the water in this weather. it is an incredibly dangerous crossing. and otherwise we will see more loss of life. i would like to see the patrols stepped up on the beaches, making sure that the boats do not get in the water in the first place. that's the best way to keep people safe, by keeping them on the shores of france where they are already say. of france where they are already sa . ~ , ., _ of france where they are already sa. ., ., of france where they are already sa. ., say. when you say you want to see atrols say. when you say you want to see patrols -- _ say. when you say you want to see patrols -- where — say. when you say you want to see patrols -- where they _ say. when you say you want to see patrols -- where they are - say. when you say you want to see patrols -- where they are already. patrols —— where they are already safe. when you say you want to see patrols stepped up, it is being resisted by france, how many patrols can be offered? we were talking to a representative from the calais port authority who said, when i hear that the french are not doing enough, we have 100 kilometres of sand, but his advice to control. there are a lot of controls already —— sand, beaches and forests to control, there are a lot of controls already but it is a lot of controls already but it is a lot of controls already but it is a lot of land. lot of controls already but it is a lot of land-— lot of land. yesterday we saw foota . e lot of land. yesterday we saw footage of— lot of land. yesterday we saw footage of french _ lot of land. yesterday we saw footage of french police - lot of land. yesterday we saw - footage of french police standing by while people got the boat ready, picked up the engine and took to the water on the french side. they did absolutely nothing. that is an acceptable and it has got to change. —— that is unacceptable and it has got to change. the british are willing to help and i'm sure the eu would come to the french? aid as well. this is a humanitarian crisis on the shore of france and these people smugglers must not be allowed to continue to ply their trade and put peoples lives at risk on the wintry seas. it is vital that action is taken and the only way to do that is taken and the only way to do that is to stop people on the beach on france to get into the boat and turn them around swiftly in french waters. to them around swiftly in french waters. ., , . ., them around swiftly in french waters. . ., ., ., waters. to be clear, you have a fiaure waters. to be clear, you have a figure on _ waters. to be clear, you have a figure on what _ waters. to be clear, you have a figure on what we _ waters. to be clear, you have a figure on what we can - waters. to be clear, you have a figure on what we can offer - waters. to be clear, you have a figure on what we can offer in l waters. to be clear, you have a - figure on what we can offer in terms of patrols? i figure on what we can offer in terms of atrols? , . ., ., of patrols? i expect that that will be art of of patrols? i expect that that will be part of the — of patrols? i expect that that will be part of the discussions - of patrols? i expect that that will be part of the discussions you . of patrols? i expect that that will l be part of the discussions you have referred to between france and the uk today. but referred to between france and the uk toda . �* ., , , referred to between france and the uktoda . �* , uk today. but it has been offered in the ast, uk today. but it has been offered in the past. hasn't _ uk today. but it has been offered in the past, hasn't it? _ uk today. but it has been offered in the past, hasn't it? it— uk today. but it has been offered in the past, hasn't it? it has— uk today. but it has been offered in the past, hasn't it? it has been - the past, hasn't it? it has been offered in _ the past, hasn't it? it has been offered in the _ the past, hasn't it? it has been offered in the past _ the past, hasn't it? it has been offered in the past and - the past, hasn't it? it has been offered in the past and i'm - the past, hasn't it? it has been| offered in the past and i'm sure the past, hasn't it? it has been i offered in the past and i'm sure it would be offered again and the french did not take it up. we work very well with the french, with juxtaposed controls, french offices in dover and british border officials working in the calais. we have a long and good border security cooperation agreement for legal route so we must extend it to the illegal routes, working together to stop people getting into the boats and saving lives by making sure the boats do not get in the water in the first place. boats do not get in the water in the first lace. , ., ., ., first place. sally gardener, good morninu. first place. sally gardener, good morning. today _ first place. sally gardener, good morning. today the _ first place. sally gardener, good morning. today the questions i first place. sally gardener, good. morning. today the questions are about how to stop these crossings. —— zoe, good morning. what can be done here? in -- zoe, good morning. what can be done here?— done here? in the wake of such a horrific tragedy, _ done here? in the wake of such a horrific tragedy, we _ done here? in the wake of such a horrific tragedy, we have - done here? in the wake of such a horrific tragedy, we have been i horrific tragedy, we have been devastated at our organisation to hear about such a huge loss of life including _ hear about such a huge loss of life including men, women and children. this challenger? mcrae tragedy was completely predicted and it was preventable. i don't know how many times— preventable. i don't know how many times you _ preventable. i don't know how many times you have spoken to politicians who have _ times you have spoken to politicians who have said that a few more patrols — who have said that a few more patrols on _ who have said that a few more patrols on the beach which is of the problem _ patrols on the beach which is of the problem but i have had it 100,000 times— problem but i have had it 100,000 times at— problem but i have had it 100,000 times at least and this approach has failed _ times at least and this approach has failed us _ times at least and this approach has failed us. this tragedy must mark a turning _ failed us. this tragedy must mark a turning point, it must be not allowed _ turning point, it must be not allowed to continue. we need to offer— allowed to continue. we need to offer people alternatives to the smuggling boats. to offer people alternatives to the smuggling boats.— offer people alternatives to the smuggling boats. to be fair, sorry to interrupt. _ smuggling boats. to be fair, sorry to interrupt, the _ smuggling boats. to be fair, sorry to interrupt, the offer _ smuggling boats. to be fair, sorry to interrupt, the offer of - smuggling boats. to be fair, sorry to interrupt, the offer of patrols i to interrupt, the offer of patrols has been refused by the french so that approach has not been... the french are — that approach has not been... tue: french are patrolling that approach has not been... tte: french are patrolling their that approach has not been... tt2 french are patrolling their own border. �* , ' . , border. and insufficiently, as we have seen- _ border. and insufficiently, as we have seen- i _ border. and insufficiently, as we have seen. i agree _ border. and insufficiently, as we have seen. i agree it _ border. and insufficiently, as we have seen. i agree it is - border. and insufficiently, as we i have seen. i agree it is horrendous, there are images — have seen. i agree it is horrendous, there are images of _ have seen. i agree it is horrendous, there are images of the _ have seen. i agree it is horrendous, there are images of the french - there are images of the french police — there are images of the french police standing by while children -ot police standing by while children got onto— police standing by while children got onto one of those unsafe vessels _ got onto one of those unsafe vessels. the french have a huge amount— vessels. the french have a huge amount to — vessels. the french have a huge amount to answer for. also the condition— amount to answer for. also the condition that people live in in northern— condition that people live in in northern france, they are destitute, and when _ northern france, they are destitute, and when they are prevented from making _ and when they are prevented from making the crossings, they are left destitute _ making the crossings, they are left destitute and not offered any support _ destitute and not offered any support. they have not found safety in that _ support. they have not found safety in that point. in many cases, this is about— in that point. in many cases, this is about people joining family members, coming to a country where they have _ members, coming to a country where they have connections and they believe — they have connections and they believe they can build a future. it only makes sense for us to offer them _ only makes sense for us to offer them ways— only makes sense for us to offer them ways to make theirjourney without _ them ways to make theirjourney without getting into the sea smuggler boat. that is how you cut off the _ smuggler boat. that is how you cut off the source of the problem. the government has a bill going through parliament that its own evidence says will— parliament that its own evidence says will make this worse, force people — says will make this worse, force people to — says will make this worse, force people to make more dangerous journeys, — people to make more dangerous journeys, that will always be a stretch — journeys, that will always be a stretch of— journeys, that will always be a stretch of coastline not patrolled, always _ stretch of coastline not patrolled, always and officially can bribe. as lon- always and officially can bribe. as long as _ always and officially can bribe. as long as the borders are closed to refugees, — long as the borders are closed to refugees, desperate people take these _ refugees, desperate people take these risks. to refugees, desperate people take these risks-— these risks. to pick up on the oint, these risks. to pick up on the point, natalie _ these risks. to pick up on the point, natalie elphicke, - these risks. to pick up on the point, natalie elphicke, if- these risks. to pick up on the - point, natalie elphicke, if people are going to seek asylum and refuge, surely rather than making it more difficult, the process should be made easier. this is not about people who wants to come and take our benefits or use our resources, these are people who are escaping desperate times, who are in desperate times, who are in desperate moments in time. what can be done to make that easier and more humane? tt be done to make that easier and more humane? , ., ., ., humane? it is important that we do recornise humane? it is important that we do recognise that _ humane? it is important that we do recognise that people _ humane? it is important that we do recognise that people are _ humane? it is important that we do recognise that people are already i recognise that people are already safe in france and many other european and other countries before they get to france. it's simply not correct to say that people are not in safety. there is help and assistance available and they should be seeking it, rather than putting to sea in a dinghy in the hands of the people smugglers. this to sea in a dinghy in the hands of the people smugglers.— to sea in a dinghy in the hands of the people smugglers. this is about --eole the people smugglers. this is about people smuggling- _ the people smugglers. this is about people smuggling. that's _ the people smugglers. this is about people smuggling. that's a - the people smugglers. this is about people smuggling. that's a slightlyl people smuggling. that's a slightly different point, sorry to interrupt you. the point is, they want to come to the uk, they have a right to come to the uk, they have a right to come to the uk as an asylum seeker, the point is the journey here is treacherous, how can that be made better and safer? the treacherous, how can that be made better and safer?— treacherous, how can that be made better and safer? the “ourney across four small boats _ better and safer? the “ourney across four small boats is — better and safer? the journey across four small boats is unlawful, - better and safer? the journey across four small boats is unlawful, it - better and safer? the journey across four small boats is unlawful, it is - four small boats is unlawful, it is an illegal route of entry. there are safe and legal route and it is vital that the message gets out there that people must take safe and legal routes and up to them in the hands of people smugglers. we take a large number of people —— and not put them in the hands of people smugglers. we take a large number of people from conflict zones, and we put them in places of safety and bring them directly to this country. that is the way our asylum should work, to make sure we are bringing in people in the greatest need, the most vulnerable, directly from the areas of conflict and that is what we do. this is about illegal activity, about people smuggling, it is about loss of life. and i agree it was predictable and it needs to be brought to an end. there are only a few specific departure points where we see the large number of these crossings occurring, they need to be targeted and patrolled and those boats need to be stopped in that way the people smugglers will not succeed. they will know they cannot get people to britain and it will bring an end to the small boats crisis. ., ., ., ., crisis. i want to get a word from zoe _ crisis. i want to get a word from zoe gardener— crisis. i want to get a word from zoe gardener as - crisis. i want to get a word from zoe gardener as well. i crisis. i want to get a word i from zoe gardener as well. your response to that? tim from zoe gardener as well. your response to that?— from zoe gardener as well. your response to that? i'm afraid natalie will know perfectly _ response to that? i'm afraid natalie will know perfectly well _ response to that? i'm afraid natalie will know perfectly well because - response to that? i'm afraid natalie j will know perfectly well because her colleague victoria atkinson who is in charge — colleague victoria atkinson who is in charge of the resettlement programme from afghanistan stood up in parliament this week and said four times — in parliament this week and said four times that there is no timescale in place, even to begin to bring _ timescale in place, even to begin to bring people in safety from afghanistan to the uk. it is not true _ afghanistan to the uk. it is not true there _ afghanistan to the uk. it is not true there are safe routes. we have left the _ true there are safe routes. we have left the dublin regulation which allows— left the dublin regulation which allows for people to reunite with their— allows for people to reunite with their family allows for people to reunite with theirfamily members allows for people to reunite with their family members within the eu, if someone — their family members within the eu, if someone was in france, greece or italy. _ if someone was in france, greece or italy. they— if someone was in france, greece or italy, they could apply to the uk, we have — italy, they could apply to the uk, we have left that season. those people — we have left that season. those people are also forced to make the irregular— people are also forced to make the irregular crossing to force the uk. listening — irregular crossing to force the uk. listening to natalie, it is disgraceful how the french have been behaving _ disgraceful how the french have been behaving but i can see why they refuse _ behaving but i can see why they refuse to — behaving but i can see why they refuse to cooperate. we are expecting them to take in all the refugees— expecting them to take in all the refugees and say none of this is our problem. _ refugees and say none of this is our problem, and that is not right. we are a _ problem, and that is not right. we are a compassionate country, people want to— are a compassionate country, people want to do— are a compassionate country, people want to do their bit and step up and health— want to do their bit and step up and health refugees —— help refugees and we need _ health refugees —— help refugees and we need to— health refugees —— help refugees and we need to help them do that and reverse _ we need to help them do that and reverse this terrible pathway for criminalising people making journeys to safe _ criminalising people making journeys to safe haven. criminalising people making “ourneys to safe haven.— criminalising people making “ourneys to safe havn— to safe haven. thank you very much for “oininv to safe haven. thank you very much forjoining us— to safe haven. thank you very much forjoining us from _ to safe haven. thank you very much forjoining us from dover, _ to safe haven. thank you very much forjoining us from dover, natalie i forjoining us from dover, natalie elphicke, and zoe gardner from the joint council of the welfare of immigrants, thank you. the time is 7:25am. we all know the difference a good night's sleep can make to our physical and mental well—being. and yet many children in the uk still don't have a proper bed because their families are struggling financially. that's why a teacher from leeds has set up a charity which has given out 1&00 beds over the last four years. she's called bex wilson and she invited us out on one of her delivery runs. every postcode in leeds has been affected by bed poverty. and we know that because we have delivered beds there. all of us are only a couple of bad days or bad moments away from needing similar support to what we offer. we are heading to ourfirst delivery of the evening. hopefully meeting the children, a lovely surprise for them, with some brand—new beds and bedding and pyjamas this evening. hello, lovely! how are you? your school sent us, because they said that you're fabulous, is that true? so the whole plan is that you're going to be moving into your separate bedrooms. to do that, you have got a brand—new bed, gorgeous mattress, duvet. another duvet there. two pillows. you've got some bedding in there and some pyjamas, all brand—new and all for you, 0k? we did a food parcel a couple of weeks ago because we were low on money that week. and they've just give us bed and bedding for the children and some pyjamas, which i can hear them all going through now! at the moment, us washer's as well as the same time trying to save up for a bed. so that money can now go straight to a washing machine, which i can buy outright now instead ofjust saving up for it. so that means i've got more money for christmas then. referrals from schools are only ever increasing. it's only going to get worse. and it's just, it's just not right, is it, in 2021 that in britain we have children that don't have a bed. we know that the key out of poverty, the cycle of poverty is education, and people are not going to get an education that can break that cycle unless they have got a tummy full of food, and a good nights sleep. and not having a bed just means that they're not going to have that chance, that starting point at all. you've got four stars already? how have you managed that? they have told us that you're fabulous, but they said it would be even better if you had a good night's sleep, that will help you be even better in your learning. and a brand—new bed needs brand—new pyjamas, so there you go, boys. some bedding. run that in, come back. so, the boys that we just delivered to are adamant that they wanted to come and help out bringing in the beds. their manners were gorgeous. huge big smiles, huge big thank yous, and you can tell on theirfaces, children don't hide it, do they? sometimes people think, you can't just keep giving things out, we need to solve the problem. we need to sort the causes of the problem. but whilst there are children sleeping on floors, sleeping on beanbags, sleeping on a sofa or chair, four or five sharing one single bed, we will continue to give out beds because that's what they need. it may look like it's a bed or it's putting a sticking plaster on a really big problem, but that child still needs a bed. whatever the causes, whatever has happened beforehand, that child in that moment, if we don't go and intervene, that child will still be sleeping on the floor and that's the difference that we're trying to make. good on you, bex, and thank you for letting us film with you to see what a difference. it is so underrated, sleep, just having that peaceful place. you remember when you were young, you would sit in your bed and do your homework or read or whatever. a safe place. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, i'm sonja jessup. an officer from scotland yard's parliamentary and diplomatic protection command accused of raping a woman he met on tinder has been accused of sexually assaulting three more women. pc david carrick, from stevenage, appeared in court last month on the initial charge, which he denied. police say a further three women have now come forward. as londoners face the first of series of 24—hour tube strikes tomorrow, the mayor has called for further talks with the rmt union. the dispute affects the central, jubilee, northern, piccadilly and victoria lines, as well as the relaunch of the night tube on saturday. it's over changes to working hours, which the rmt says are unfair. 0ur message to the rmt is talk to us, come back round the table, talk to tfl. all of the unions have accepted that the night tube needs to return and accepted the rosters. they understand the importance to the nighttime economy of the night tube, but also women's safety. several self defence clubs have told the bbc they've seen a rise in the number of women taking up classes amidst continuing headlines about women's safety. one group in south east london says enquiries are up by 75%. i think i started to feel a bit more unsafe just walking around by myself, especially coming into winter, in the evening when it is getting dark, and just feeling i did not know what i would do if someone were to try to attack me. i bought a rape alarm, but i don't have any other idea what i would do in that situation. i wanted to feel a bit more empowered to take care of myself. wembley park will be lit up tonight with the return of the christmas lights trail �*winterfest�*. it's centrepiece is a 25 foot tree. the big switch on happens at 7 o clock tonight. travel now. this is how the tube looks. no reported problems at the moment. the overground the overg round is the overground is part suspended. time for the weather now with elizabeth rizzini. good morning. it's been a very cold week of weather so far across the capital and things are only set to turn chillier still as we head through the rest of it but there will be some sunshine around at times, notably today. it's another cold, frosty start to the morning for many of us especially towards northern home counties where we saw the cloud clear first. further south a cloudier picture and it will clear southwards and a slightly milder start to the day but lots of sunshine emerging just about everywhere and a bit more cloud for the afternoon and a noticeable northerly wind so some wind chill to factor into the temperatures and it will feel cold and highs of six or 7 c. as we head through the evening and overnight, watch out for a sharp frost developing for the first half of the night with temperatures dropping below freezing in a few spots but then there will be more cloud into friday morning itself and on friday we have an area of low pressure that will give us strong, gusty winds and some outbreaks of rain that will fall as rain and temperatures ever so slightly higher but not a great day of weather and plenty of added wind—chill but windier still as we go into saturday. watch out for some showers as it will be feeling cold and some of the showers could be wintry on the higher ground. more from me in an hour. and you can check out our website too. now i'll hand you back to charlie and naga. bye for now. hello this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt the prime minister borisjohnson has said he wants to "break the business model" of the gangsters who arrange illegal channel crossings — like the one which claimed 27 lives yesterday. let's get a better idea of how he might do that. the immigration minister kevin foster is in our westminster studio. do you have any updates in connection with the incident itself? good morning. the home secretary will be speaking to her french counterpart later this morning. obviously our heart goes out in terms of those who lost their lives yesterday, and at least 27 people have died but the dynamic situation is there and the french authorities are investigating and we are keen to let them get on with their work and we have offered any support we can give. we have offered any support we can hive. a , we have offered any support we can live, , , we have offered any support we can hive. , , ., we have offered any support we can ive. , , ., , give. many people have observed this to be very shocking _ give. many people have observed this to be very shocking but _ give. many people have observed this to be very shocking but entirely - to be very shocking but entirely predictable. do you accept that? the channel are — predictable. do you accept that? tt2 channel are dangerous waters and people setting off in flimsy boats without proper life—saving gear, organised and facilitated by ruthless criminals. sadly, the dangers are obvious and yesterday's tragedy emphasises that. the real sad part of this is those who organise that bow yesterday would have viewed these people, at least 27 people who passed away, just as a profit—making opportunity and that is why we are determined to smash this model of this evil business. what are you going to do to change things in practical terms. we want to go further. we things in practical terms. we want to go further-— to go further. we are certainly ha- . to to go further. we are certainly happy to offer— to go further. we are certainly happy to offer resources - to go further. we are certainly happy to offer resources and l happy to offer resources and support. we see it as a shared problem, a british problem and we want to do things to an asylum system and increase the penalties for those involved in the trade in the long side from that we want to make sure that we do have a safe and legal roots from regions of conflict and may be opening up economic migration routes to those stuck in refugee camps in regions of conflict. there is a lot we want to do on this end and we particular want to get the nationality and borders bill through parliament and look to secure a return agreement with france, bilaterally, orwith the eu as a whole. tt with france, bilaterally, or with the eu as a whole.— with france, bilaterally, or with the eu as a whole. it sounds like ou, the eu as a whole. it sounds like you. kevin _ the eu as a whole. it sounds like you, kevin foster, _ the eu as a whole. it sounds like you, kevin foster, as— the eu as a whole. it sounds like. you, kevin foster, as immigration minister, what you intend to do is do more of what you are doing at the moment and what most observers say, maybe you included, you can tell me is that the current system doesn't work which is why 27 people died in the channel yesterday. so what are you going to do that is different? we need to break the business model of the people traffickers use and that means changing the law about how you arrive, whether it's illegally via this particular dangerous route in terms of the entitlements you get in future in the uk to reduce the incentives. with respect, mister foster, those people climbing on board the boats, if i may, those people climbing on board those boats as they did yesterday morning, they knew all the things you are talking about and they knew the problems they would face when they got to the uk to seek asylum but as we can see, and i don't know if you can see what we are looking at now, they are prepared to do that regardless. so i'm trying to work out what it is you are saying that will change those people taking that risk today, tomorrow, next week. the those people taking that risk today, tomorrow, next week.— those people taking that risk today, tomorrow, next week. the first thing is workin: tomorrow, next week. the first thing is working with _ tomorrow, next week. the first thing is working with france _ tomorrow, next week. the first thing is working with france and _ tomorrow, next week. the first thing is working with france and we - tomorrow, next week. the first thing is working with france and we have i is working with france and we have offered resources and we are happy to support their operation. hagar offered resources and we are happy to support their operation. how much mone ? to support their operation. how much money? we've _ to support their operation. how much money? we've already _ to support their operation. how much money? we've already agreed - to support their operation. how much money? we've already agreed a - money? we've already agreed a 54,000,000. — money? we've already agreed a 54,000,000. have _ money? we've already agreed a 54,000,000. have you - money? we've already agreed a 54,000,000. have you paid i money? we've already agreed a | 54,000,000. have you paid that mone ? 54,000,000. have you paid that money? we _ 54,000,000. have you paid that money? we have _ 54,000,000. have you paid that money? we have paid _ 54,000,000. have you paid that money? we have paid the - 54,000,000. have you paid thatj money? we have paid the money 54,000,000. have you paid that. money? we have paid the money to 54,000,000. have you paid that - money? we have paid the money to the french and we — money? we have paid the money to the french and we are _ money? we have paid the money to the french and we are also _ money? we have paid the money to the french and we are also prepared - money? we have paid the money to the french and we are also prepared to - french and we are also prepared to offer resources like yesterday we deployed a helicopter at their request to help with the search and rescue operation so we are prepared to notjust go on offering cash, we have to offer support as well because it's in nobody is interest for this to continue, not in the uk interest, not france's interest and not in the interests of those making those deadlyjourneys in the hands of people traffickers. tit those deadlyjourneys in the hands of people traffickers. tt t those deadly journeys in the hands of people traffickers.— of people traffickers. if i look at the comments, _ of people traffickers. if i look at the comments, the _ of people traffickers. if i look at the comments, the french - of people traffickers. if i look at i the comments, the french interior minister, who said he spoke to priti patel three days ago asking for more police officers, more cameras, more resources in general. he said that the contribution from britain remains minimal compared to the resources that we put in place. do you accept what he said? the home secretary will _ you accept what he said? the home secretary will speak _ you accept what he said? the home secretary will speak to _ you accept what he said? the home secretary will speak to her - secretary will speak to her counterpart later this morning and we are prepared to offer support on the ground and we are prepared to offer resources and prepared to offer resources and prepared to offer literally people to go there and help and assist the french authorities and we are clear that we don't see it as an issue that france needs to deal with, but one where we work together with france and the wider european partners because we only need to look at the situation in the mediterranean or eastern europe to see it's notjust an issue in the channel, to break the business model of these gangs and that includes things like securing returns agreements as well as the policing and law enforcement presence in calais. t5 policing and law enforcement presence in calais.— policing and law enforcement presence in calais. is one of the areas you _ presence in calais. is one of the areas you are — presence in calais. is one of the areas you are actively _ presence in calais. is one of the areas you are actively looking i presence in calais. is one of thej areas you are actively looking at now helping, financially or otherwise, the french set up. some kind of system in france whereby those people who are seeking to come to the uk could be processed in france? is that something you are actively pursuing? taste france? is that something you are actively pursuing?— france? is that something you are actively pursuing? we don't believe in encouraging _ actively pursuing? we don't believe in encouraging people _ actively pursuing? we don't believe in encouraging people to _ actively pursuing? we don't believe in encouraging people to make - in encouraging people to make journeys across the mediterranean which are equally dangerous and where thousands of people have lost their lives. we are looking at having safe and legal roots from the regions of conflict themselves. we evacuated 16,000 people from afghanistan in august and only last week you can see we welcomed an afghanistan women's football team who flew here on a visa, they did not need to engage in a dangerous journey. we are also looking to create more of our roots in terms of how we can support those people directly. and looking at europe and they are looking to tackle the issues on its own border and the loss of life in the mediterranean and it might stop stop people crossing the channel but ill discourage them or to put their lives at risk in the mediterranean. i thought what we were trying to do in the immediate term will stop people crossing the channel and there are reports already this morning and you will know that the weather has worsened today, and there are already reports of crossings continuing this morning. two boats from dover carrying about 40 people and what you are talking about sounds academic relative to the reality that people are getting in those boats this morning with worse weather, and you are changing nothing. worse weather, and you are changing nothinv. ., �* , worse weather, and you are changing nothinv. ., �*, ., nothing. charlie, there's nothing academic about _ nothing. charlie, there's nothing academic about the _ nothing. charlie, there's nothing academic about the number - nothing. charlie, there's nothing academic about the number of i nothing. charlie, there's nothing - academic about the number of people we evacuated from afghanistan on safe and legal roots. t’m we evacuated from afghanistan on safe and legal roots.— safe and legal roots. i'm talking about the crossings _ safe and legal roots. i'm talking about the crossings on - safe and legal roots. i'm talking about the crossings on the - safe and legal roots. i'm talking - about the crossings on the channel. there is nothing academic about the offers we made of extra support and we are prepared to put resources including border officers and for many years we've worked well with france in terms ofjuxtaposed controls were our border force on the french border police worked well together to secure the routes between our countries. but this isn't working- — between our countries. but this isn't working. i _ between our countries. but this isn't working. i think _ between our countries. but this isn't working. i think most - between our countries. but this i isn't working. i think most people who have used _ isn't working. i think most people who have used the _ isn't working. i think most people who have used the ferry - isn't working. i think most people who have used the ferry and - isn't working. i think most people who have used the ferry and rail l who have used the ferry and rail links think the juxtaposed controls work fairly well but what we now need to do is extend the approach to those making your regularjourneys across the channel, putting lives at risks and how we work together to break the business model. france has already this year stopped 20,000 crossings and we've seen 400 arrests and we have broken 17 organised criminal gangs but we can go further and we believe we can and work with our french colleagues including looking at options for return agreements. looking at options for return agreements-— looking at options for return agreements. looking at options for return avreements. ., . ., ., , ., agreements. how much more money are ou agreements. how much more money are you prepared _ agreements. how much more money are you prepared to _ agreements. how much more money are you prepared to put — agreements. how much more money are you prepared to put in? _ agreements. how much more money are you prepared to put in? i— agreements. how much more money are you prepared to put in? iwant— agreements. how much more money are you prepared to put in? i want to - you prepared to put in? i want to clarify something because i know you mentioned the figure of 54,000,000. have the french received that money in order that they can put more people on the ground across those 100km of coastline, have they received the money? the 100km of coastline, have they received the money? the funding has enabled them — received the money? the funding has enabled them to _ received the money? the funding has enabled them to receive _ received the money? the funding has enabled them to receive the - received the money? the funding has enabled them to receive the money. | enabled them to receive the money. how they received the money? the 54,000,000?— how they received the money? the 54,000,000? , ., . 54,000,000? they have received the mone as 54,000,000? they have received the money as we — 54,000,000? they have received the money as we have _ 54,000,000? they have received the money as we have agreed _ 54,000,000? they have received the money as we have agreed to - 54,000,000? they have received the money as we have agreed to pay - 54,000,000? they have received the. money as we have agreed to pay them. ijust money as we have agreed to pay them. i just want to be very clear. i money as we have agreed to pay them. ijust want to be very clear. i want to be clear about this. we i just want to be very clear. i want to be clear about this.— to be clear about this. we are prepared _ to be clear about this. we are prepared to — to be clear about this. we are prepared to offer _ to be clear about this. we are prepared to offer our - to be clear about this. we are prepared to offer our offices, | prepared to offer our offices, cutters, air assets and resources, so it's notjust a financial figure but we are prepared to offer resources, as yesterday when we deployed a uk helicopter into french water, i should say over french waters, to help with a search and rescue operation and it's about offering resources on personal and experience and we are very happy to work with the french to do that and that's above and beyond the agreements we have with them. just a tomm one agreements we have with them. just a tommy one straightforward _ agreements we have with them. just a tommy one straightforward thing and it's not about the cas and when it was announced about the money that would help and she made bold claims about bringing the crossing across the channel and these boats down to zero. and she said she would be a £54,000,000 to the french, so can i be clear, have they received the entirety of the £54,000,000 as it stands today. entirety of the £54,000,000 as it stands today-— entirety of the £54,000,000 as it stands today. entirety of the £54,000,000 as it stands toda . . �* ., ., stands today. we've agreed to pay in instalments — stands today. we've agreed to pay in instalments and _ stands today. we've agreed to pay in instalments and made _ stands today. we've agreed to pay in instalments and made the _ stands today. we've agreed to pay in instalments and made the payments| stands today. we've agreed to pay in i instalments and made the payments as we agreed to pay and as we will discuss later date with the french to, as we touched on, they have stopped 20,000 crossings this year and broken 17 organised criminal gangs working with the french, so to be honest there is a lot of work being done already but we need to step that up further and we are keen to work with france, prepared to offer resources on top of money and offer resources on top of money and of course, to look at whether we can get a returns agreement which would ultimately smash the business model of the people trafficking gang. there is a lot of those people focused on the gangs in the individuals operating that but in terms of what they are caught, if they are convicted, what charges do you think they should face and what kind ofjail terms should they face? as you said yourself, a lot of this about sending messages for the risks people of our taking including those criminals trying to do this. absolutely. we are clear we want to increase the penalties and we want to ensure that the maximum sentence can be up to life imprisonment for those who view humans as nothing more, literally view people as nothing more than a profitable cargo that they are happy to put out immense risk. that is in our nationally tea and borders bill and we want to get it through parliament and it will be easier to get it through if we have the support of the main opposition parties for it but we are determined we want to send out a clear message of what we were think of those who engage in this despicable behaviour and put peoples lives at risk with the tragic consequences we saw yesterday. tragic consequences we saw yesterday-— tragic consequences we saw esterda . .,, ., ., yesterday. kevin foster, immigration minister, thank _ yesterday. kevin foster, immigration minister, thank you _ yesterday. kevin foster, immigration minister, thank you for _ yesterday. kevin foster, immigration minister, thank you for your - yesterday. kevin foster, immigration minister, thank you for your time - minister, thank you for your time this morning. mike will bring us up to date the sport. and success for english teams in the champions league. the build—up was like movie stars were coming to town with their awesome front three. but in the end of it flat, their collective sum of parts, theirfight, their edge and manchester city were missing some of their own big names but they outplayed psg winning 2— one and it means they win their champions league group although psg had taken the lead, city fought back with goals from raheem sterling and gabrieljesus. the french club are through to the next round but city will have the advantage is they are seeded for the first knockout round. in general we made a top performance and we are happy to be in the next stage and congratulations to the team and everyone in the club. for many years in a row, being in the last 16 and ourfocus in many years in a row, being in the last 16 and our focus in the many years in a row, being in the last 16 and ourfocus in the premier league and in february we will arrive in the best condition to qualify for the finals. liverpool were already assured of going through as group winners but last night they made it a perfect 5 wins out of 5 beating porto 2—0,. a review of the way football is run in england has concluded an independent regulator is needed to put the sport on a sounder financial footing and give fans more say in the way the teams they support are run. the government set up the review after six big premier league clubs tried to form a breakaway european super league — while at the same time many clubs in lower divisions were in severe financial hardship. people are saying no more. this is about ensuring that vested interests are removed from football and that football can start to become something that is sustainable for the long—term future of the english game and that is why we are setting out today these structures, these recommendations that will actually completely change the landscape for football regulation.— football regulation. ronnie 0'sullivan _ football regulation. ronnie 0'sullivan says _ football regulation. ronnie 0'sullivan says he - football regulation. ronnie 0'sullivan says he prefersl football regulation. ronnie - 0'sullivan says he prefers watching snooker to them playing it but he got through to the second round of the uk snooker championship and it means he will have to play again after surviving a challenging match with michael white before eventually winning 6— three and 0 with michael white before eventually winning 6— three and o sullivan refused to be drawn on the other issue dominating snooker, some of snooker is big names have backed shaun murphy over the claim that amateurs should not be played ? allowed to be played in tournaments. murphy was knocked out of the uk championship by the 19—year—old chinese amateur si jiahui and said afterwards that that young man should not be in the tournament but the world snooker tour said it disagreed with his comments but neil robertson and mark selby and mark williams have all said they agree with murphy and he is certainly not standing down. i'v e i've seen today how the story has blown up and is still trending and all the rest of it and it is madness, really, from my point of view but for me there has to be a line. if there is no distinction between the pro tours and the amateur tours, vets have one big tour then. and i think amateurs, very good amateurs, by the way, standing in front of and potentially being banana skins for professional players who are living this way is a problem. players who are living this way is a nroblem. ., ,, ., ., ~' players who are living this way is a nroblem. ., ,, ., ., ~ ., problem. the world snooker tour disa . reed problem. the world snooker tour disagreed saying _ problem. the world snooker tour disagreed saying that _ problem. the world snooker tour disagreed saying that he - problem. the world snooker tourl disagreed saying that he deserved his place, sijiahui, even though he is an amateur his results absolutely justify his position and getting into play the professionals on this occasion but the other argument we have heard is that it is their livelihoods. you've spent years to qualify going through the process to become a professional and it is their livelihoods at risk. interesting seeing it in other sports because you have amateurs playing in golf and in individual tournaments as well. it will rumble on. let's take a look at the weather. carol has the details now. we have a blast of winter coming our way over the next few days and it will be cold, colder than it has been on saturday in particular there are risks of gales and spells of rain, sleet and snow and we are not going to all see snow but i will tell you more about that as we go through the forecast. it's a cold start of the starting with frost and a lot of clear skies and a a lot of sunshine around and windy along the coast in particular where the strongest wind and they are blowing in showers. most of the showers will be of rain but we could see some wintry showers continuing across the northern half of scotland and some winching this over the hills of northern ireland and the north york moors but has become along the coast of wales and south—west and eastern england there will be rain showers but again, as we come south, similar picture and a lot of dry, clear, crisp and sunny conditions but feeling cold. to give you an idea of the temperatures, these are the expected maximum is between four and nine and may be ten in the channel islands. by the end of the afternoon you can see the clouds gathering and rain arriving a cross the far north—west with some wintry fields and that will push south through the course of the night but behind it scattered showers incredibly wintry in lower levels in scotland and under the clear skies will be told ? cold enough for a touch of frost on the wind will strengthen across scotland, northern ireland and the irish sea and as we go through tomorrow the brightness on the far south—east will be quickly eradicated by the weather front sinking south and taking its rain and if we follow the weather front back to the north of scotland, we will see further snow down to sea levels with some of the showers wintry on the hills. the met office on friday has a weather warning for wind across scotland, northern ireland and parts of northern england and we could have gales, even severe gales more likely around the coasts. this low pressure is what is driving the weather as we go through friday and into the weekend. the exact positioning will determine what you get, so where the strongest winds will be and where we see the sleet and snow, so on current thinking on friday evening the strongest wind will be out towards the west and you can tell that from the west and you can tell that from the spacing of the isobars. if we pick that up and go through friday night, you can see how the rain, sleet and snow bushes further south and some of that will get down to low levels especially in the highlands and with the strong winds, there could be blizzards around as well. that moves down towards the south—east through the course of saturday. very windy and the met office has a yellow wind warning for almost the whole of the uk except the south—east and again gales, severe gales with exposure but although it will be bitterly cold on saturday, things calm down a bit during the course of sunday. carol, thank you very much. most families have at least a couple of younger members who love to put on a show and it seems that the royal family are no different. a new exhibition at windsor castle reveals how the queen — who was then princess elizabeth — and her sister princess margaret used to love producing their own pantomimes when they were teenagers. our royal correspondent daniela relph went to have a look. windsor castle is christmas ready. it's trees are decorated, its ground state rooms dressed. and this year the castle is taking visitors back 80 years to the day when a pair of teenage girls who lived here tried to lift spirits during the christmases of the second world war. princess elizabeth, as she was then, and her sister, princess elizabeth, as she was then, and hersister, princess princess elizabeth, as she was then, and her sister, princess margaret, created an annual royal pantomime. for the first time, some of their costumes have come out of the archive and on display. the two princesses were always star performers. the shows were staged in this room, the waterloo chamber and the audience were castle staff, the local school, troops and the king and queen. money from ticket sold was used to make blankets for soldiers on the front line. i know you were in the grand surroundings of windsor castle but there is something quite ordinary about putting on a show for your family and friends. putting on a show for your family and friends-— putting on a show for your family and friends. yes, ordinary up to a noint. and friends. yes, ordinary up to a point- they _ and friends. yes, ordinary up to a point. they were _ and friends. yes, ordinary up to a point. they were supported - and friends. yes, ordinary up to a point. they were supported by i and friends. yes, ordinary up to a i point. they were supported by sound technicians that came specially from the bbc, special set designers, but that was very much blended with that kind of home—made element as well, so while the performances looked very grand and beautiful, it was very grand and beautiful, it was very much a home—grown spirit to it all. very much a home-grown spirit to it all. ., , ., very much a home-grown spirit to it all. ., ., ,, ., all. the pantos or woes showed the stron . er all. the pantos or woes showed the stronger sibling _ all. the pantos or woes showed the stronger sibling bond. _ all. the pantos or woes showed the stronger sibling bond. onstage, - all. the pantos or woes showed the stronger sibling bond. onstage, inl strongersibling bond. onstage, in costume, elizabeth and margaret were a formidable partnership and privately they were a vital support system for one another. they were often away from their parents, having moved out of london during the war. and the evacuee experiences part of this christmas display. the paintings of fairy tale characters that provided a backdrop to the pantos were designed by an art student evacuated to windsor. his story will be brought to life for younger visitors to the castle. many, many years ago, when the blitz had hit london i was an evacuee and i came here to windsor castle. i think pantomimes are very relatable to children's and families, especially around this time of year and it's also a story about finding the best in hard times, which i think we can all relate to in the last couple of years. shes think we can all relate to in the last couple of years.— think we can all relate to in the last couple of years. as the queen heads into her _ last couple of years. as the queen heads into her 70th _ last couple of years. as the queen heads into her 70th year _ last couple of years. as the queen heads into her 70th year on - last couple of years. as the queen heads into her 70th year on the i heads into her 70th year on the throne, the panto display is a reminder of christmases here at the castle during a unique time in her life. before she had taken on the responsibilities of monarch. it is a snapshot of a royal childhood, of how christmas at the castle tried to bring some festive cheer to the dark days of war. pa nto panto season, christmas party season. charlie loves parting, i love golf, so ben thought, how can i combine the two to keep us happy. hello? you would love the two to keep us happy. hello? gm. would love this place. i know you are a very competitive when it comes to golf, so let me see if i can get this in, but good morning, we are in swingers in west london, a crazy golf place. i did that badly and this place would normally be packed full of people because it's christmas parties and big workgroups and those djs and drinks and all sorts of things going on and bookings are back up and lots of businesses in the hospitality industry that's been struggling for the last 20 months because of the pandemic restrictions, they are welcoming people back through their doors and bookings are back up. not quite to the levels before the pandemic but nonetheless things are looking up. but there is a problem in so much as there might be a few smaller groups but maybe not as much planning and people coming on the spur of the moment because they are worried about coming to places like this, perhaps, but also one of the problems is the fact they don't have enough staff and the hospitality industry, short of 200,000 staff and they are really struggling to fill they are really struggling to fill the jobs and it means lots of firms are not able to take the bookings they would like to operate at full capacity, including simon's hotel business in west yorkshire and he's told us he is having to turn away a lot of bookings because he does not have the staff.— have the staff. whilst we find a busy summer _ have the staff. whilst we find a busy summer and _ have the staff. whilst we find a busy summer and it's - have the staff. whilst we find a busy summer and it's been - have the staff. whilst we find a busy summer and it's been a i have the staff. whilst we find a - busy summer and it's been a great season— busy summer and it's been a great season and — busy summer and it's been a great season and demand has been very, very good, — season and demand has been very, very good, we are still playing catch — very good, we are still playing catch up _ very good, we are still playing catch up. we desperately need a good christmas, _ catch up. we desperately need a good christmas, partly to play catch up and also — christmas, partly to play catch up and also to — christmas, partly to play catch up and also to put some money in the bank— and also to put some money in the bank to— and also to put some money in the bank to get— and also to put some money in the bank to get us through the first quarter— bank to get us through the first quarter safely. the business plan is looking _ quarter safely. the business plan is looking very good. the christmas numbers” — looking very good. the christmas numbers,, they are up on previous years— numbers,, they are up on previous years and — numbers,, they are up on previous years and there's definitely an appetite — years and there's definitely an appetite and demand for the public to get— appetite and demand for the public to get out— appetite and demand for the public to get out and enjoy this christmas. talking _ to get out and enjoy this christmas. talking to _ to get out and enjoy this christmas. talking to colleagues in the industry— talking to colleagues in the industry there is a nervousness about— industry there is a nervousness about having enough staff for the really _ about having enough staff for the really busy nights, fridays, saturdays but overall it's encouraging and the demand seems to be there _ encouraging and the demand seems to be there and people seem to be looking — be there and people seem to be looking forward to a really good christmas this year. so looking forward to a really good christmas this year.— christmas this year. so that is simon's view _ christmas this year. so that is simon's view from _ christmas this year. so that is simon's view from west - christmas this year. so that is - simon's view from west yorkshire. let's introduce you to matt who runs this place. good morning to you. we were talking about bookings being back up and people coming back to places like this. hahn back up and people coming back to places like this.— places like this. how are you vvettin places like this. how are you getting on?- _ places like this. how are you getting on?. good _ places like this. how are you getting on?. good news - places like this. how are you - getting on?. good news because we had a _ getting on?. good news because we had a difficult last couple of years but this— had a difficult last couple of years but this year we got back open in june and — but this year we got back open in june and confidence slowly crept into the — june and confidence slowly crept into the market and we got to october— into the market and we got to october and suddenly christmas bookings started happening and the sales team got busy and now december is looking _ sales team got busy and now december is looking really busy and we will have _ is looking really busy and we will have a _ is looking really busy and we will have a christmas season. christmas view is one — have a christmas season. christmas view is one of— have a christmas season. christmas view is one of the _ have a christmas season. christmas view is one of the most _ have a christmas season. christmas view is one of the most important i view is one of the most important time of the year, maybe the money you don't make injanuary and february but it's also about big workgroups and parties coming to somewhere like this.— workgroups and parties coming to somewhere like this. absolutely. we are doinv a somewhere like this. absolutely. we are doing a lot _ somewhere like this. absolutely. we are doing a lot more _ somewhere like this. absolutely. we are doing a lot more in _ somewhere like this. absolutely. we are doing a lot more in the _ somewhere like this. absolutely. we are doing a lot more in the way - somewhere like this. absolutely. we are doing a lot more in the way of. are doing a lot more in the way of smaller— are doing a lot more in the way of smaller bookings and we tend to be full for— smaller bookings and we tend to be full for the — smaller bookings and we tend to be full for the whole of december and when _ full for the whole of december and when we _ full for the whole of december and when we look at the mix during 2019 it's made _ when we look at the mix during 2019 it's made up— when we look at the mix during 2019 it's made up of a lot more small bookings— it's made up of a lot more small bookings but the good news is there are still— bookings but the good news is there are still the book ? big bookings in there _ are still the book ? big bookings in there so— are still the book ? big bookings in there so if— are still the book ? big bookings in there so if you hire swingers on an exclusive — there so if you hire swingers on an exclusive hire, it's about 500 people — exclusive hire, it's about 500 people and there is a good number of people _ people and there is a good number of people doing that taking over the whole _ people doing that taking over the whole venue and they are happy to net whole venue and they are happy to get the _ whole venue and they are happy to get the teams in one place and celebrate — get the teams in one place and celebrate christmas. we get the teams in one place and celebrate christmas.— get the teams in one place and celebrate christmas. we were talking about a shortage _ celebrate christmas. we were talking about a shortage of _ celebrate christmas. we were talking about a shortage of staff— celebrate christmas. we were talking about a shortage of staff and - celebrate christmas. we were talking about a shortage of staff and for- celebrate christmas. we were talking about a shortage of staff and for a i about a shortage of staff and for a lot of hospitality businesses that is a real problem, as we heard in west yorkshire, having to turn away customers. how are you coping and do you have the staff you need? th you have the staff you need? in december we need more staff on the floor to _ december we need more staff on the floor to cater to demand so we up the staff— floor to cater to demand so we up the staff numbers and at the moment we are _ the staff numbers and at the moment we are about 7% down on floor staff of where _ we are about 7% down on floor staff of where we — we are about 7% down on floor staff of where we need to be so we have to make _ of where we need to be so we have to make some _ of where we need to be so we have to make some strategic decisions about how we _ make some strategic decisions about how we operate through december and it means _ how we operate through december and it means for— how we operate through december and it means for us on a couple of mondays _ it means for us on a couple of mondays in both of our venues in london _ mondays in both of our venues in london we — mondays in both of our venues in london we won't be able to open, so overall— london we won't be able to open, so overall we _ london we won't be able to open, so overall we are really lucky and it could _ overall we are really lucky and it could be — overall we are really lucky and it could be worse but we do have to factor _ could be worse but we do have to factor in — could be worse but we do have to factor in that very real impact that one day— factor in that very real impact that one day out— factor in that very real impact that one day out of seven we cannot get open _ one day out of seven we cannot get open when — one day out of seven we cannot get open when there is the demand and customers— open when there is the demand and customers and we would like to be open _ customers and we would like to be open on _ customers and we would like to be open on those days.— customers and we would like to be open on those days. matt, good luck and a really — open on those days. matt, good luck and a really busy _ open on those days. matt, good luck and a really busy time _ open on those days. matt, good luck and a really busy time of _ open on those days. matt, good luck and a really busy time of the - open on those days. matt, good luck and a really busy time of the year i and a really busy time of the year but nice to see you and thanks very much and as matt was saying, a far cry from what they saw this time last year with lots of patchy restrictions and problems to contend with, so let me see if i can have another go at this and getting through. not quite. not up to standard. ., through. not quite. not up to standard-— through. not quite. not up to standard. ., ., �* i] through. not quite. not up to standard. ., ., �* m standard. nowhere near, ben. i knew ou would standard. nowhere near, ben. i knew you would say— standard. nowhere near, ben. i knew you would say that. _ standard. nowhere near, ben. i knew you would say that. thanks _ standard. nowhere near, ben. i knew you 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in a moment. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today. britain and france agree to step up efforts to stop people crossing the channel. 27 men, women and a child drowned when their boat sank as they tried to reach the uk. the french government is holding crisis talks this morning. police there have arrested a fifth man in connection with the tragedy. we'll be hearing from the people trying to reach the uk about why they're willing to risk their lives crossing the world's busiest shipping lane in inflatable boats. where are you going now? the uk. english football needs an independent regulator to stop it "lurching from crisis to crisis". that's according to a fan—led review into the sport. another fantastic night for english clubs in the champions league. victories for manchester city and liverpool as both win their groups and city's sterling outshines messi and co. and the fab four as they once were. a new documentary featuring hours of unseen footage of the beatles is released roday. we'll hear from the director peterjackson. a cold start of the day but for many of us, it is going to be dry, crisp and sunny, but there are showers crown the coasts where it windy. wintry showers on the hills in scotland and then a period of potentially disruptive weather. all of the details later on. it's thursday the 25th of november. two more boats have crossed the english channel illegally this morning just hours after 27 people drowned off the coast of northern france yesterday. the prime minister and president macron of france have pledged to step up joint efforts to smash the smuggling gangs. a fifth suspected trafficker has been arrested in france overnight. jon donnison reports. along the northern french coast, the search for the missing went on after dark. but with temperatures in single digits, the chance of finding anyone alive increasingly remote. at least 27 bodies have been recovered. the biggest loss of life in the channel since it became the preferred route of people traffickers. translation: the first people responsible for this despicable | situation are the smugglers. that is to say, criminals who, for a few thousand euros, organise the trafficking of human beings from iraq, afghanistan, africa and asia. it's thought around 25 boats like this set off from the beaches of northern france yesterday. where are you going now? the uk. this one, we know, made it across the channel, but it's a treacherous journey, across one of the world's busiest shipping lanes. this disaster underscores how dangerous it is to cross the channel in this way. and it also shows how vital it is that we now step up our efforts to break the business model of the gangsters who are sending people to sea in this way. last night, the government's cobra emergency committee met, and the prime minister held an urgent phone call with the french president emmanuel macron. downing street said the two men agreed to step up joint efforts in calais last night, people demanding refugees be better treated held a vigil for those who died. after a year of record numbers crossing the channel, people on all sides of the argument have warned this was a tragedy waiting to happen. jon donnison, bbc news. we'll speak to jessica parker in calais shortly. but first let'sjoin simon jones in dover. good morning. i know there are reports, and you have access to information in connection with more boats arriving this morning, or which have been intercepted, tell us what you know. which have been intercepted, tell us what you know-— what you know. yes, the weather is takinv what you know. yes, the weather is takin: a what you know. yes, the weather is taking a turn _ what you know. yes, the weather is taking a turn for— what you know. yes, the weather is taking a turn for the _ what you know. yes, the weather is taking a turn for the worst, - what you know. yes, the weather is taking a turn for the worst, it's - taking a turn for the worst, it's getting very windy out there at sea, the rain is coming down, it's extremely cold. but despite that, two more boats have managed to reach uk what is this morning. i understand they were picked up by the lifeboat in the early hours, i'm told 40 people were on board the boats. it shows the desire to get to the uk remains, despite the deaths of those 27 people in french waters yesterday. i think ultimately, the authorities here were expecting as we went into the autumn for the numbers of people attempting the crossing to come down quite dramatically, but that hasn't happened at all. in fact so far this month, more than 600 —— 6000 people have managed to reach the uk by boat, far greater than the figures this time last year. i think it reflects that this route across the channel has become an all year round route, because it is so lucrative for the people to smugglers organising the crossings. i think the people smugglers are getting paid around £3000 each by the migrants. when you add that up, sometimes 20,30, migrants. when you add that up, sometimes 20, 30, 40 boats being launched on the same day, you can see why this is such a big business. ultimately for the politicians this will now need to focus minds. in terms of what happened yesterday, the search operation has now been called off, hopes of finding any survivors from that are now gone. thank you, simon. our europe correspondent jessica parker is in calais. ican i can see the wind blowing, it is cold where you are, simon was describing what it is like in dover as well. but yet, we know there are still crossings being made and we know that the french are holding crisis talks, but almost to what end? crisis talks have been held for months or years to tackle this problem. months or years to tackle this nroblem. ., ., ., ., , problem. you are right, naga, this issue is not — problem. you are right, naga, this issue is not new. _ problem. you are right, naga, this issue is not new. an _ problem. you are right, naga, this issue is not new. an incredibly - problem. you are right, naga, this issue is not new. an incredibly wetj issue is not new. an incredibly wet and windy morning here in calais. it france over as in the uk there have been expressions of sadness and grief and condolence for the victims and theirfamilies, but it has inevitably left this question of what can be done next. there is an emergency meeting of the french government going on, and last night emmanuel macron, the french president, released a statement calling for an emergency meeting of european ministers, reinforcements as well, reinforced support for the eu? external borders. he has been emphasising that from france's point of view, this is a shared response for that he, notjust an issue in france. he has also emphasised it is a shared issue with the uk, emmanuel macron spoke with the uk prime minister borisjohnson last night. the french have faced some criticism for how it has managed this issue here, what you hearfrom french officials and people here is that they have hundreds of police deployed along an extensive stretch of coastline, that migrants, people are determined to try and reach the united kingdom. ithink are determined to try and reach the united kingdom. i think these concert —— conversations will carry on today about what can be done. there is emphasis from the french that it there is emphasis from the french thatitis there is emphasis from the french that it is in their view a shared responsibility but whoever is responsible to it is, there will be increased pressure to act. our political correspondent damian grammaticas is in westminster. the question looms large, what can be done differently to try to make sure this does not happen again. yes, and it is the key question. the uk has been talking to france for some time, just ten days ago priti patel had a conversation with her french counterpart talking about stepped measures. the home secretary has the nationality and borders bill going through parliament which seeks to make it illegal to make these crossings, that could face international legal challenges because people have a right to seek asylum. the uk has been giving a lot of money, and what we see now is the uk stepping up calls to send more personnel across the channel to help the french. tote personnel across the channel to help the french. ~ ., personnel across the channel to help the french. . ., , ., the french. we are prepared to offer su- nort on the french. we are prepared to offer support on the _ the french. we are prepared to offer support on the ground, _ the french. we are prepared to offer support on the ground, we _ the french. we are prepared to offer support on the ground, we are - support on the ground, we are prepared — support on the ground, we are prepared to offer resources, literativ— prepared to offer resources, literally people to go there and help assist the french authorities. we are _ help assist the french authorities. we are clear we don'tjust see this as an _ we are clear we don'tjust see this as an issue — we are clear we don'tjust see this as an issue that france is to deal with but— as an issue that france is to deal with but one we want to work together— with but one we want to work together with france and our wiring -- wider— together with france and our wiring —— wider european partners. you only need _ —— wider european partners. you only need to— —— wider european partners. you only need to have — —— wider european partners. you only need to have a — —— wider european partners. you only need to have a look at the situation in the _ need to have a look at the situation in the mediterranean to see this is notjust— in the mediterranean to see this is notjust an — in the mediterranean to see this is notjust an issue in in the mediterranean to see this is not just an issue in the in the mediterranean to see this is notjust an issue in the channel. to break— notjust an issue in the channel. to break the _ notjust an issue in the channel. to break the business model of these gangs _ break the business model of these gangs. we break the business model of these hans. ~ ., break the business model of these hans, . ., ., break the business model of these ans. ~ ., ., ., break the business model of these ans. . ., ., , gangs. we have had about breaking their business _ gangs. we have had about breaking their business model _ gangs. we have had about breaking their business model many - gangs. we have had about breaking their business model many times i gangs. we have had about breaking i their business model many times from uk ministers. the alternative that people say that should be looked at as a possibility is rather than criminalising this, looking at opening up safe and legal roots which means that people do not have to take to the boats. kevin foster did say today, talking to bbc breakfast, that they wanted to open up breakfast, that they wanted to open up economic migration routes to those stuck in camps and ensure people have safe and legal routes. we will wait to see if there is more on that. ., ., we will wait to see if there is more on that. ., ,, , ., we will wait to see if there is more on that. ., ~' , ., , we will wait to see if there is more on that. ., ,, i. , . what needs to happen to prevent another tragedy from unfolding on the channel? we're joined now by the mp for calais, pierre—henri dumont, as well as kevin saunders, the former chief immigration officer for the uk border force. gentlemen, good morning both. could you tell me what you know, pierre—henri dumont, about what is happening this morning? we understand there are crisis talks, to what end? what would be the result of those, a good result? well, good morning. no one knows what will come up from this discussion. what we know is that was a drama, it was the biggest drama that we faced in the channel last night. that did not the smugglers putting a small boat to see, seeing all these dead bodies. ijust had reports that in the last few hours, during the night, maybe ten to 20 small boats were sent at sea, even if dead bodies were found. so it's a huge problem. we all know that. what happened yesterday was what we feared for months now. and i think it is really time for both our governments to stop blaming each other and to try to talk to each other and to try to talk to each other and to try to talk to each other and find real solutions. what a crazy solutions such as more people —— not crazy solutions like having more and more people here, and having the british army on french shores, that's not acceptable and will not change anything. tonfhdt and will not change anything. what will make a — and will not change anything. what will make a difference? _ and will not change anything. what will make a difference? we have heard promises and pushback from both sides. in your opinion, what will make difference, what is a practical solution? for will make difference, what is a practical solution?— will make difference, what is a practical solution? for the british side, i think— practical solution? for the british side, i think two _ practical solution? for the british side, i think two points. - practical solution? for the british side, i think two points. the - practical solution? for the british side, i think two points. the first| side, i think two points. the first one would be to have a safe route, safe passage for migrants. by giving them the opportunity to apply for asylum in france or germany. for asylum in france or germany. for asylum in france or germany. for asylum in the uk. because right now to apply for asylum as a migrant, you have to have toast ? macro both feetin you have to have toast ? macro both feet in the uk. —— you need to have both feet in the uk. the uk processed 30,000 last year, —— in 2019, but the french process 120,000, that is not logical. the first point should be for british authorities to allow migrants to apply for asylum in the uk even if they are not in the uk. the second point should be to make it harder for illegal migrants to find a job and has the uk. it is a question of, it is easierfor them and has the uk. it is a question of, it is easier for them to be illegal in the uk than to be illegal in france, because of easy legislation on work and housing, etc. then the french authorities had a huge role to play. that's why i am advocating for the two governments, in the next few months, once a migrant is in calais, it's too late. because he can see the british sure, the lights. they will try to cross. we need to send these migrants into welcome centres hundreds of kilometres away from the shore, and give them shelter, to take them out of the deadly hands of smugglers, make them understand that they need to apply for asylum in france, and with the new system i am advocating for in the uk. and if they do not want to apply for asylum, or if they were denied asylum, they then can be sent back by plane.— sent back by plane. kevin saunders, former chief — sent back by plane. kevin saunders, former chief immigration _ sent back by plane. kevin saunders, former chief immigration officer - sent back by plane. kevin saunders, former chief immigration officer for| former chief immigration officer for the uk border force, unfortunately as pierre—henri dumont says, this was inevitable and predictable, it was inevitable and predictable, it was warned about happening. what can prevent this from happening again? good morning. yes, it's awful, it's absolutely— good morning. yes, it's awful, it's absolutely awful. and yes, we have been _ absolutely awful. and yes, we have been warning that this would happen for the _ been warning that this would happen for the last year. what we really do need _ for the last year. what we really do need to— for the last year. what we really do need to do— for the last year. what we really do need to do is work closer with the french _ need to do is work closer with the french the — need to do is work closer with the french. the big thing that we could do together, which i don't think would _ do together, which i don't think would upset french sovereignty, would _ would upset french sovereignty, would have patrols in the channel. the french— would have patrols in the channel. the french have their own force which _ the french have their own force which is — the french have their own force which is a — the french have their own force which is a very efficient organisation, they have lots of boats — organisation, they have lots of boats and _ organisation, they have lots of boats and aeroplanes. if we could work _ boats and aeroplanes. if we could work with — boats and aeroplanes. if we could work with them in the channel, perhaps— work with them in the channel, perhaps using the royal navy from our side, _ perhaps using the royal navy from our side, that would make a difference. that would certainly make _ difference. that would certainly make a — difference. that would certainly make a difference. in the longer term, _ make a difference. in the longer term, we — make a difference. in the longer term, we have got to look at... sorry— term, we have got to look at... sorry for— term, we have got to look at... sorry for interrupting, just the practicalities of what happens in the channel, the home secretary priti patel has made clear she wants the uk border force to be able to turn back boats carrying migrants across the english channel in certain circumstances. practically, where and how does that work, and over which part, who has jurisdiction over what at the moment? tt jurisdiction over what at the moment?— jurisdiction over what at the moment? it is very difficult. turnin: moment? it is very difficult. turning boats _ moment? it is very difficult. turning boats around - moment? it is very difficult. turning boats around is - moment? it is very difficult. turning boats around is a i moment? it is very difficult. i turning boats around is a little moment? it is very difficult. - turning boats around is a little bit of a red _ turning boats around is a little bit of a red herring, turning boats around is a little bit ofa red herring, ithink. i can't see _ ofa red herring, ithink. i can't see border— ofa red herring, ithink. i can't see border force officers being prepared — see border force officers being prepared to push boats back. the channel _ prepared to push boats back. the channel is — prepared to push boats back. the channel is a very fickle bit of sea, it is not— channel is a very fickle bit of sea, it is not the — channel is a very fickle bit of sea, it is not the ionian sea where the home _ it is not the ionian sea where the home secretary saw the greeks do it. it's a different bit of sea and it's very— it's a different bit of sea and it's very dangerous. and if there was a tragedy— very dangerous. and if there was a tragedy doing that, we would be really— tragedy doing that, we would be really in — tragedy doing that, we would be really in trouble. so i don't think fishing _ really in trouble. so i don't think fishing boats back is the answer. it's working with the —— pushing boats— it's working with the —— pushing boats back— it's working with the —— pushing boats back if the answer. it is working — boats back if the answer. it is working with the french in the channet — working with the french in the channel. ., ., ., ., , channel. you are to a second point to prevent — channel. you are to a second point to prevent this _ channel. you are to a second point to prevent this happening - channel. you are to a second point to prevent this happening again? l to prevent this happening again? longer term, we have got to have offshore _ longer term, we have got to have offshore reception centres for these people _ offshore reception centres for these people. the draw to the uk is phenomenal, they want to come here. because _ phenomenal, they want to come here. because basically everything is free _ because basically everything is free. and that's the attraction. that's— free. and that's the attraction. that's why— free. and that's the attraction. that's why they wants to come, they can get— that's why they wants to come, they can get housing, education, money, everything — can get housing, education, money, eve hinv. �* , , can get housing, education, money, eve hint. , , ~' everything. because they are seeking as lum? everything. because they are seeking asylum? her--- _ everything. because they are seeking asylum? her... what _ everything. because they are seeking asylum? her... what is _ everything. because they are seeking asylum? her... what is that - everything. because they are seeking asylum? her... what is that chechen | asylum? her... what is that chechen mean? -- — asylum? her... what is that chechen mean? "just— asylum? her... what is that chechen mean? --justyet— asylum? her... what is that chechen mean? -- just yet mean? _ asylum? her. .. what is that chechen mean? -- just yet mean? i- asylum? her. .. what is that chechen mean? -- just yet mean? i was- asylum? her... what is that chechen mean? -- just yet mean? i was in i mean? -- 'ust yet mean? i was in france for— mean? -- just yet mean? i was in france for 16 _ mean? -- just yet mean? i was in france for 16 years _ mean? -- just yet mean? i was in france for 16 years pulling - mean? -- just yet mean? i was in france for 16 years pulling people | france for 16 years pulling people out of _ france for 16 years pulling people out of lorries. most of the people that i_ out of lorries. most of the people that i dealt with were not asylum seekers, — that i dealt with were not asylum seekers, they were economic migrants _ seekers, they were economic migrants. i think it is a little bit disingenuous for some people who have never— disingenuous for some people who have never met a migrant in their life to _ have never met a migrant in their life to say— have never met a migrant in their life to say that they are all asylum psych _ life to say that they are all asylum psych and — life to say that they are all asylum psych and seekers —— asylum seekers. a lot of— psych and seekers —— asylum seekers. a lot of them — psych and seekers —— asylum seekers. a lot of them are just plain economic migrants.- a lot of them are just plain economic migrants. a lot of them are just plain economic mivrants. . ., ., ,., .,, economic migrants. what about those who aren't like _ economic migrants. what about those who aren't like the _ economic migrants. what about those who aren't like the child _ economic migrants. what about those who aren't like the child who - economic migrants. what about those who aren't like the child who died - who aren't like the child who died on that boat yesterday? t who aren't like the child who died on that boat yesterday?— who aren't like the child who died on that boat yesterday? i mean, i'm not sa in: on that boat yesterday? i mean, i'm not saying that _ on that boat yesterday? i mean, i'm not saying that everybody _ on that boat yesterday? i mean, i'm not saying that everybody is - on that boat yesterday? i mean, i'm not saying that everybody is an - not saying that everybody is an economic— not saying that everybody is an economic migrant. but a lot of them are. economic migrant. but a lot of them are perhaps— economic migrant. but a lot of them are. perhaps the eu ought to get more _ are. perhaps the eu ought to get more involved with reception centres in europe _ more involved with reception centres in europe to — more involved with reception centres in europe to deal with these people. that's— in europe to deal with these people. that's another possibility. pierre—henri dumont, as crisis talks begin this morning in france particularly, do you have any hint that perhaps something practical may come out of this, be it more patrols or more cooperation between the uk and france? t or more cooperation between the uk and france?— and france? i don't know yet what will come out _ and france? i don't know yet what will come out from _ and france? i don't know yet what will come out from this _ and france? i don't know yet what will come out from this meeting. l will come out from this meeting. what i can assure you is that having more money, or having more police officers patrolling, on the french are sure, will not change anything. it will not change anything because we have got 300 kilometres to monitor 24—7 and it only takes ten minutes for smidl is to take a boat to see full of migrants. —— smugglers to take about two this evil of migrants. in the migrants are in calais, they will find a way to cross, it's too late. we cannot have thousands of police officers patrolling the seashore. the only answer coming from this awful tragedy is for the brits to give us more money for the french authorities to have more people patrolling the french sure, but that will not change anything. nothing will not change anything. nothing will change. and we are still going to have dead bodies in the channel. it is a sobering and very stark situation, and it obviously needs urgent attention. pierre—henri dumont, french national assembly memberfor calais, thank you. kevin saunders, former chief officer for uk border force, thank you for your time this morning. lewis goodall visited calais to report on the situation there, as we've heard this morning, the tragedy in the channel has not stopped other people from trying to make that perilous 30—mile voyage. so what drives them to risk their lives to reach the uk? just before the events of yesterday, bbc newsnight�*s lewis goodall visited calais to find out. hejoins us now from dover. good morning. it is a sobering thought as we look behind you at that stretch of water, we know today the weather is worse, and you have seen first hand those people climbing into those boats and making thatjourney. climbing into those boats and making that “ourne . ~ , , climbing into those boats and making that journey-— climbing into those boats and making thatjourney— that journey. absolutely, and i'm afraid to say _ that journey. absolutely, and i'm afraid to say it _ that journey. absolutely, and i'm afraid to say it does _ that journey. absolutely, and i'm afraid to say it does not - that journey. absolutely, and i'm afraid to say it does not surprise | afraid to say it does not surprise me in the least that despite what we had yesterday and the terrible tragedy which unfolded in the waters of the english channel, that still so many decided to try and leave france, take their chances, and some of those have made thatjourney two, three, four or five times to try and make it to the uk. some of them at least feel they have already risked everything coming from countries where they have been persecuted perhaps, orwhere where they have been persecuted perhaps, or where theirfamily where they have been persecuted perhaps, or where their family have been imprisoned. it's merely the latest in a series of risks. some people say, why don't theyjust latest in a series of risks. some people say, why don't they just stay in france? sometimes it's about family connections, their last family connections, their last family in the world might be in the uk. sometimes it's about language, they speak english, but not french. one of the other reasons is they feel they have been treated badly in france and i don't think people necessarily appreciate just how poor conditions are in the camps, i call that camps charitably, they are reallyjust that camps charitably, they are really just roots and that camps charitably, they are reallyjust roots and roadsides where women, men and children are living. to understand that, we spent some time in some camps in calais and dunkirk and here is a sense of what we found there. when you think of dunkirk, this almost certainly is not the escape you think of. but in 2021, this is what dunkirk is. thousands of people from around the world, men, women and children, living in the woods, wondering the motorway, waiting for the call to flee at dawn across the sea from france to britain. we have spent the last few days here talking to those in this political purgatory. first thing, the french police mounted a morning raid. so people are literallyjust wandering up and down this street because their camp has been broken up. the french police have destroyed their things, their sleeping bags, their equipment and so on. and now they've just got to wander up and down until they can find somewhere else to go. have you tried to cross to the uk already? of course. how, in boat? by boat. what happens, you got turned back? though most would not speak on camera, this was the refrain we heard again and again. when we asked why people were not claiming asylum in france, some said, family in britain, historic ties between their countries and britain, language. but many cited how they had been treated by the french government and their belief that britain would be more humane. the overwhelming feeling here is of futility. the endless cycle. the police take away their things, aid groups support give them back, and on it goes. we have families here with children less than a year old. we have families with pregnant women. we have toddlers. we have got groups of young teenage boys, people who have been forced from their country. charlie, who has worked here for six years, say these camp dispersals happen as often as twice a week. if the police were here, maybe with they would say, organisations like yours are undermining what we're trying to do because we are trying to deter gangs from bringing people here and trying to deter people from trying to settle here. and you are undermining that. what would you say to that? they could suggest that, however we know that that is not true because we are a humanitarian aid organisation. we are not interested in how or why people are crossing to the uk. that is not what is important, that's not what's shocking. what's shocking is the way people are being treated here on a daily basis. what's shocking are the amounts of human rights that are being abused on a daily basis. and the fact that all of this is being funded by the uk government. we should remember, too, that in terms of numbers at least, compared to other european countries, or indeed elsewhere, we are not talking about that many people. it's just more visible. i think it's different in terms of illegal immigration. i think if you look at the overall numbers of people coming in illegally, they're broadly the same as they were in my time. but what's changed is the method. when i was in the job, a lot of the illegal migration was coming through the port of calais. people were penetrating the airport perimeter, climbing into the backs of lorries, and getting through that way. but we have invested quite a lot of time and effort with the french on tightening up the port of calais. it's much harder to break into the port now. and we have quite sophisticated search capabilities to detect people climbing into lorries. when you add that to the covid crisis, when less lorries are coming across anyway, the human smugglers have changed tactics and they've now taken to this relatively new phenomenon of putting people in small boats and bringing them across in that way. and there is that familiar futility again. later in the day, the camp simply reforms up the road and as night falls, they know they must wait by the phone lest the call comes to head to the beaches. for all we know, anyone of these people could have been one of those who perished in the sea. conditions on land are only a bit better. this is my tent. so you are sharing this with your friend? yes, yes. now, we are three. three people in your tent? yes, it's really tough. there's much discussion in britain about whether these people are genuine asylum seekers. it's a fair question. but also fair to consider whether many or most would credibly take these sort of risks if they were not. this man we're not naming is only 20 years old and says he wants to get to britain because it's where his last family connections in the world remain. imagine if you got to the uk, what would you like your future to be like? live a life, yes, like other people, they live their life. yes, getajob, get married, get children. charlie, the really distressing thing, one of the most distressing things is naturally, i spent some time over the last 24 hours, my team spent some time thinking about, could have been that any of those people could have been on one of the boats? we talked to the aid agencies who are familiar to the people were talking to saying they do know some of the people who tried to make the crossing in the last 24 hours, they don't think it was anyone we spoke to on the film but it brings it home just how real this tragedy is. and now of course we are going to have a political war of words between the british and french governments, there is a fissure between the british government saying the french need to get a handle on it and the french saying the british need to be more involved. there is two to 300 kilometres of coastline along the french sure, and the french government would say, even if we tried to put a police officer on every single beach, it only takes a matter of minutes to launch a boat. if there is not a significant policy change, and we were warned about this a week ago, one agency said, the risk was that the channel would become a graveyard and that has tragically come to pass in the last 24 hours. we're joined now by clare moseley, the founder of the refugee aid charity care4calais. thank you for your time. i don't know if you could hear of what something was being sane there by lewis. in terms of practical measures that can be done immediately, what are your thoughts? the first thing would be to stop treating them quite so badly in france because the conditions are horrific. more broadly borisjohnson talked about no stone being unturned to stop the people smugglers and from our point of view, the people smugglers are a symptom but not a cause of the issue. the issue is that these people want to claim uk asylum, and they cannot do it unless they are physically present in the uk. and there's no way for them to get their other than sneaking on about. if we really want to change things, we need to give them away to claim asylum without risking their lives and that would cut the people smugglers out of the business. that's what the government say they want and that is what we all want because maybe once people are brutally preying on vulnerable people. —— nobody wants people brutally preying on vulnerable people. they keep spending more money on security but we all see it is not working. your programme has just said, 100, 300 kilometres of beach, it will not change anything, security, display pupils lives at risk. now we are seeing the worst consequences of that. —— itjust puts people's lives at risk. 50 consequences of that. -- it 'ust puts people's lives at risk. so what with the system _ puts people's lives at risk. so what with the system look _ puts people's lives at risk. so what with the system look like? - puts people's lives at risk. so what with the system look like? some l puts people's lives at risk. so what i with the system look like? some kind of processing centre in france? the immigration minister here has said they are not looking at that. well. they are not looking at that. well, one option. _ they are not looking at that. well, one option, there _ they are not looking at that. well, one option, there are _ they are not looking at that. well, one option, there are different - they are not looking at that. att one option, there are different ways it could work that one way might be some kind of screening centre in france where they have an initial look at people's claims and if they have a possible viable claim, they would be transferred to the uk safely. and then they would be processed in the uk. it's really about giving them away for their claims to be assessed without having to take their life in their hands. at the end of the day, these are innocent people. all that has happened to a refugee is that they have been born in the wrong place. it's not their fault, have been born in the wrong place. it's not theirfault, they have been born in the wrong place. it's not their fault, they are a victim. they should not be having to risk their lives like this. it is to our shame that they are dying at our border having gone through so much, escaped from terrible conditions and faced a horrendous journey and then they die at our border, it's absolutely heartbreaking. if we could find a way for them to get to the uk safely and then process them. we are not saying open borders, we say, processed their claim and see if they have a valid claim, that would get rid of this. everybody keeps saying they want to stop the people smugglers. this is the way they could be stopped, we could literally put them out of business by introducing a way for them to have their claims processed without having to risk their lives. after seeing these dreadful events, surely thatis seeing these dreadful events, surely that is what we have to do, we have to find a way to not let this happen again. it's absolutely horrific for these ordinary men and women to risk their lives and die in this horrible way, death by driving in the middle of winter, it's terrific. and for this to happen at our border, there are no words for this. can this to happen at our border, there are no words for this.— this to happen at our border, there are no words for this. can i ask you to address — are no words for this. can i ask you to address one _ are no words for this. 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they need. that is the most important thing and if somebody is told there is no way that there is told there is no way that there is no way they get asylum in the uk we are removing the incentive for thatjourney because 98% of them, 98% submit an asylum claim the minute they arrive in the u k and they tell us again and again they are coming to the uk seeking a better life and seeking asylum, and if they have no chance of getting there and we remove the incentive for the journey, there and we remove the incentive for thejourney, you might risk your life or something that is something you really want but would you risk it for a life being illegal, not just for certainty or safety, so properly not, so that removes the incentive. so it adjust things at the same time. incentive. so it ad'ust things at the same time._ incentive. so it ad'ust things at the same time. ., ., ,, , ., ., the same time. claire, thank you for our the same time. claire, thank you for your time- — the same time. claire, thank you for your time- it's _ the same time. claire, thank you for your time. it's just _ the same time. claire, thank you for your time. it's just after _ the same time. claire, thank you for your time. it'sjust after half- the same time. claire, thank you for your time. it'sjust after half past. your time. it's just after half past eight let's find out what is happening in terms of the news where you are. good morning, i'm sonja jessup. as londoners face the first of series of 24 hour tube strikes tomorrow, the mayor has called for further talks with the rmt union. the dispute affects the central, jubilee, northern, piccadilly and victoria lines, as well as the relaunch of the night tube on saturday. it's over changes to working hours, which the rmt says are unfair. our message to the rmt is talk to us, come back round the table, talk to tfl. all of the unions have accepted that the night tube needs to return and accepted the rosters. they understand the importance to the nighttime economy of the night tube, but also women's safety. a teenage boy — thought to be 16 years old — has died after being stabbed in west london. police have launched a murder investigation after he was found in raleigh road in southalljust after nine last night. several self—defence clubs have told the bbc they've seen a rise in the number of women taking up classes amidst continuing headlines about women's safety. one group in south east london says enquiries are up by 75%. i think i started to feel a bit more unsafe just walking around by myself, especially coming into winter, in the evening when it is getting dark, and just feeling i did not know what i would do if someone were to try to attack me. i bought a rape alarm, but i don't have any other idea what i would do in that situation. i wanted to feel a bit more empowered to take care of myself. wembley park will be lit up tonight with the return of the christmas lights trail �*winterfest�*. it's centrepiece is a 25—foot tree. the big switch on happens at 7 o clock tonight travel now. there's been a signal failure on the overground, so no service between gospel oak and upper holloway, time for the weather now with elizabeth rizzini. good morning. it's been a very cold week of weather so far across the capital and things are only set to turn chillier still as we head through the rest of it but there will be some sunshine around at times, notably today. it's another cold, frosty start to the morning for many of us especially towards northern home counties where we saw the cloud clear first. further south a cloudier picture and it will clear southwards and a slightly milder start to the day but lots of sunshine emerging just about everywhere and a bit more cloud for the afternoon and a noticeable northerly wind so some wind chill to factor into the temperatures and it will feel cold and highs of six or 7 c. as we head through the evening and overnight, watch out for a sharp frost developing for the first half of the night with temperatures dropping below freezing in a few spots but then there will be more cloud into friday morning itself and on friday we have an area of low pressure that will give us strong, gusty winds and some outbreaks of rain that will fall as rain and temperatures ever so slightly higher but not a great day of weather and plenty of added wind—chill but windier still as we go into saturday. watch out for some showers as it will be feeling cold and some of the showers could be wintry on the higher ground. more from me in half an hour. now i'll hand you back to charlie and naga hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. morning live is on bbc one after breakfast. let's find out what kym and gethin have in store. little bit of waving. are we not speaking this morning? t little bit of waving. are we not speaking this morning?- little bit of waving. are we not speaking this morning? i was waiting for more. speaking this morning? i was waiting for more- are — speaking this morning? i was waiting for more. are we _ speaking this morning? i was waiting for more. are we all. _ coming up on morning live. more people are taking them than ever before — with one in five of us now suffering from anxiety or depression, 20 million anti—depressants were prescribed last year in three months alone. dr xand's here to talk about medication, as well as other treatment options. i will be looking at what antidepressants - i will be looking at what antidepressants are, i i will be looking at what. antidepressants are, why i will be looking at what - antidepressants are, why we take them _ antidepressants are, why we take them on — antidepressants are, why we take them on the _ antidepressants are, why we take them on the latest _ antidepressants are, why we take them on the latest guidelines- antidepressants are, why we take them on the latest guidelines onl them on the latest guidelines on other— them on the latest guidelines on other treatment _ them on the latest guidelines on other treatment for— them on the latest guidelines on other treatment for depression. | also today — every year we create 1.6 million tonnes of electrical waste in the uk. bad for the planet and our pockets! so before you throw out your broken toasters, kettles and vacuum cleaners you might want to watch this! we visit one caf that's ready to fix your stuff as well as your breakfast. they make a nice coffee too, apparently. and it's the ultimate comfort food for the winter months. our chef anna haugh's here with a soup masterclass. she'll share how to create one of the uk's favourite flavours — leek and potato — and tell us how to prepare the perfect crouton. plus, he's the flying archaeologist who loves to capture the world from above. ben robinson tells us about his latest adventure discovering the important role our coastal villages have played in our history. and for the last nine weeks they've strutted, sashayed and sewn their way in to the grand final of rupaul's drag race uk. before tonight's big finale, we meet the three queens all hoping to be crowned the winner. see you at 9.15am. it will be less waving, more jazz hands — it will be less waving, more jazz hands so— it will be less waving, more jazz hands. so be ready for them. canl hands. so be ready for them. can i 'ust thank hands. so be ready for them. can i just thank the _ hands. so be ready for them. can i just thank the doctor _ hands. so be ready for them. can i just thank the doctor for _ hands. so be ready for them. can i just thank the doctor for his - just thank the doctor for his personal hello. what a lovely touch. i should have said good morning to you as _ i should have said good morning to you as welt — i should have said good morning to you as welt it— i should have said good morning to you as well-— you as well. it was noted. don't wor . you as well. it was noted. don't worry- it _ you as well. it was noted. don't worry- it is _ you as well. it was 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three—part documentary by peterjackson, who directed the lord of the rings trilogy. # get back. we'll have to do it sitting down. or we get too excited. the sounds, the colours, thejoy of the beatles making music unseen for more than half a century. ringo said he thought we just had to tell it like it is. the man entrusted to restore almost 60 hours of footage from the let it be sessions injanuary1969, the lord of the rings director, peterjackson. what made you want to dedicate four years of your life to this project? well, i wouldn't have done if it was the rolling stones or something. bit controversial, sorry. a musical documentary is not of huge appeal to me but the beatles, yeah, i'm100%. four years no problem. i've loved every second of it. # speaking words of wisdom... do you want it once more? we will never get - a chance to do it again. the project almost happened by mistake. peterjackson was meeting with the beatles company apple to discuss the possibility of a virtual reality exhibition. so cats and kittens ? but as a beatles obsessive he took his chance to find out something he always wanted to know what happened to the outtakes from the 1970 beatles documentary let it be. they said to me well yes we've got it all which was great. as a fan i was sat there thinking yes "you've got it all." they were thinking about using it for a documentary a stand—alone documentary and they didn't have a film—maker attached so it's the only time i have ever done this and i put my hand up and said if you're looking for somebody please think of me. just say whatever comes into your head each time. try to be a cauliflower until you get the word. peterjackson was offered the job the same day. his only concern was he'd always been turn that the making of the let it be album was a gloomy time of the beatles but when he sat down to watch the outtakes what surprised him was just how much fun everyone was having. if the footage showed everyone a truly miserable band not wanting to be doing what they were doing, i wouldn't have made the movie. that's not the movie i wanted to make. i was amazed and surprised to see the footage showing a very different story to what i believed for 40 years. it's going to be such a comical thing in 50 years' time they broke up because yoko sat on the amp. paul mccartney said watching this documentary has changed his perception of the break—up of the beatles. that's quite a thing. when i talk to ringo or paul about their memories generally of 1969, they talk to me and they say i think you are remembering the movie let it be from 1970 because you're obviously saw it and i think what you have brought us is a let it be is where you are unhappy in may 1970 there was arguments there was lawyers, it was clearly a very stressful and miserable time for you guys. you're not remembering this was a perfectly happy time and this was not a band who were going to break up when you see this and that's what you see on screen. now going to tape the beatles, so be quiet. oh, so you're recording our conversation? - and the secret nature of much of the filming allowed a unique insight into what it was really like to be in the studio with the beatles. looking for a blast from the past? they hit the button and had ten minutes of film then go away and have a cup of tea so the beatles would think that guy's not got the camera sitting there so they would loosen up and feel that they weren't being filmed and they could be honest with each other. and it's when they don't know that they are being filmed when you get amazing bits and an amazing insight into the individuals in the band. what did you learn about the beatles then from those moments? i mean, i learned in january 1969 they were unbelievably normal people. they were liverpool guys. there is a psychic connection between them where they don't have to talk to each other to know what they are thinking and what to do. it's a strong depth of that friendship that really struck me. the best bit of us always has been and always will be is when we our backs are against the wall. all we've got is us. what do you think? in the end there was so much footage that get back has been divided into three parts and there is one other trilogy that links peterjackson to the beatles. one real curiosity, in the 1960s, the beatles actually wanted to make a lord of the rings movie directed by stanley kubrick. what do you know about that? i've been scraping together little pieces of information and interrogating paul about it. when they went to india, when they stayed in india for three months with the maharishi in the beginning of 1968, john paul and george each got one lord of the rings book to read in india and they got excited about it and ultimately they couldn't get the rights from tolkien, because tolkien didn't like the idea of a pop group during his story. paul as frodo and john as gollum. i believe. apparently. how different your life might have been had they made the movie. when i spoke to paul about it, he said i'm glad i didn't do it and you got to you do yours and i like your film, but i don't know. and i said to him it's a shame you didn't do it because what would the soundtrack be like? that would have been 14 or 15 beatles songs that would have been pretty incredible to listen to. one, two, three, four! peterjackson, thank you very much for speaking to us. you are very welcome. thank you. we can have a chat with colin who is in savile row, and you will recognise the scene because that is the roof and colin couldn't get up on the roof and i think we can see you now but you are downstairs somewhere below. there you go. t will give you a wave as well. if anyone is inside the building and fancies letting us in, they can do it but this is such a famous bit of beatles history and used to be the headquarters of apple in the period we are talking about, january 1969, the last 45 minutes of this epic documentary is all up there and they show the whole of the final ever beatles performance. and they are into viewing people on the ground and a chat to one business in the doorway right behind me and asked, what you make of the beatles playing the gig and he says, this is an imposition. now he is going down in history in this epic beatles documentary.— history in this epic beatles documenta . ., , documentary. the documentary looks fantastic but — documentary. the documentary looks fantastic but the _ documentary. the documentary looks fantastic but the fact _ documentary. the documentary looks fantastic but the fact that _ documentary. the documentary looks fantastic but the fact that peter - fantastic but the fact that peter jackson has directed it, that is such a treat to be able to talk to him, surely? such a treat to be able to talk to him. surely?— such a treat to be able to talk to him, surely? yes, and the reasons they wanted _ him, surely? yes, and the reasons they wanted him _ him, surely? yes, and the reasons they wanted him to _ 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they were being filmed and you capture the sense of what it was like, and a lot of it was in the building in the apple corps building and you see them talking about what was on tv the night before, just reading articles out of the newspaper and you get a sense of just how much camaraderie and what made them such a special group. it is long and the first part has just dropped, two hours and 30 minutes on the whole thing is just under eight hours and that is just 90 minutes less than lord of the rings. tt is less than lord of the rings. it is e-ic less than lord of the rings. it is e . ic and less than lord of the rings. it is epic and a _ less than lord of the rings. it is epic and a lot — less than lord of the rings. it is epic and a lot of _ less than lord of the rings. it is epic and a lot of people will be very, very happy. lovely to chat to you this morning and a fantastic location and it so steeped in history. the beatles and places there are certain places where you think of 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' , .,, if anything. we were 14 years together. _ if anything. we were 14 years together. so _ if anything. we were 14 years together, so if _ if anything. we were 14 years together, so if you _ if anything. we were 14 years together, so if you look - if anything. we were 14 years together, so if you look at i if anything. we were 14 years | together, so if you look at any if anything. we were 14 years - together, so if you look at any band whether— together, so if you look at any band whether it _ together, so if you look at any band whether it is a boyband, pop or rock, _ whether it is a boyband, pop or rock, it — whether it is a boyband, pop or rock, it doesn't matter what music you do. _ rock, it doesn't matter what music you do. it's — rock, it doesn't matter what music you do, it's an intense couple of years— you do, it's an intense couple of years and — you do, it's an intense couple of years and if— you do, it's an intense couple of years and if it goes well it gets ijil, years and if it goes well it gets big, so— years and if it goes well it gets big, so 14 _ years and if it goes well it gets big, so 14 years was a long time but we loved _ big, so 14 years was a long time but we loved it— big, so 14 years was a long time but we loved it but we needed a break and we _ we loved it but we needed a break and we all— we loved it but we needed a break and we all did our own separate stuff _ and we all did our own separate stuff that — and we all did our own separate stuff that reignited the flame to come _ stuff that reignited the flame to come back and do the reunion two years— come back and do the reunion two years ago— come back and do the reunion two years ago which went so well and that enabled us to do the new album that enabled us to do the new album that enabled us to do the new album that enable us to go onto witches late next— that enable us to go onto witches late next year and the album is out on friday. — late next year and the album is out on friday. so— late next year and the album is out on friday, so see howl late next year and the album is out on friday, so see how i deflected that? _ on friday, so see how! deflected that? ., , ., ., , that? you 'ust did a load of pr they are. well that? you just did a load of pr they are. well done. _ that? you just did a load of pr they are. well done. you _ that? you just did a load of pr they are. well done. you got _ that? you just did a load of pr they are. well done. you got it - that? you just did a load of pr they are. well done. you got it all - that? you just did a load of pr they are. well done. you got it all in - that? you just did a load of pr they are. well done. you got it all in sol are. well done. you got it all in so we don't have to say it.— are. well done. you got it all in so we don't have to say it. thanks very much. we don't have to say it. thanks very much- lovely _ we don't have to say it. thanks very much. lovely seeing _ we don't have to say it. thanks very much. lovely seeing you. _ we don't have to say it. thanks very much. lovely seeing you. lovely i much. lovely seeing you. lovely seeinv much. lovely seeing you. lovely seeing you! _ much. lovely seeing you. lovely seeing you! you've _ much. lovely seeing you. lovely seeing you! you've all— much. lovely seeing you. lovely seeing you! you've all got - much. lovely seeing you. lovely seeing you! you've all got kids. | much. lovely seeing you. lovely i seeing you! you've all got kids. so here is my question. when you were split up and you chat to the kids and you would say, oh, no, and you say things like, i don't know, shane was really annoying and nicky had this habit, so when you got back together. this habit, so when you got back tovether. ., , this habit, so when you got back tovether. ~ , ., , together. the kids have put their foot in it. have _ together. the kids have put their foot in it. have they _ together. the kids have put their foot in it. have they put - together. the kids have put their foot in it. have they put their- together. the kids have put their| foot in it. have they put their foot in it? granny _ foot in it. have they put their foot in it? granny said _ foot in it. have they put their foot in it? granny said you _ foot in it. have they put their foot in it? granny said you were - foot in it. have they put their foot in it? granny said you were really| in it? granny said you were really rude. in it? granny said you were really rude- while _ in it? granny said you were really rude. while they _ in it? granny said you were really rude. while they are _ in it? granny said you were really rude. while they are picking - in it? granny said you were really rude. while they are picking their noses. rude. while they are picking their noses- me _ rude. while they are picking their noses. me speaking _ rude. while they are picking their noses. me speaking personally, i rude. while they are picking their i noses. me speaking personally, my kids are a bit _ noses. me speaking personally, my kids are a bit young _ noses. me speaking personally, my kids are a bit young and _ noses. me speaking personally, my kids are a bit young and my - noses. me speaking personally, my kids are a bit young and my first. kids are a bit young and my first child _ kids are a bit young and my first child was— kids are a bit young and my first child was born the year we broke up and obviously they only started learning — and obviously they only started learning about westlife as the years rolled _ learning about westlife as the years rolled on _ learning about westlife as the years rolled on so it is interesting but to be _ rolled on so it is interesting but to be honest with you, for all of us, it's— to be honest with you, for all of us, it's lovely to be back together so the _ us, it's lovely to be back together so the kids— us, it's lovely to be back together so the kids get to experience it and see what— so the kids get to experience it and see what we are doing. are so the kids get to experience it and see what we are doing.— see what we are doing. are the children at _ see what we are doing. are the children at the _ see what we are doing. are the children at the point _ see what we are doing. are the children at the point where - see what we are doing. are the | children at the point where they see what we are doing. are the - children at the point where they are really chuffed that their dad are p0p really chuffed that their dad are pop stars or are they may get embarrassed? t pop stars or are they may get embarrassed?— pop stars or are they may get embarrassed? i think they are chuffed, some _ embarrassed? i think they are chuffed, some of— embarrassed? i think they are chuffed, some of them - embarrassed? i think they are chuffed, some of them are i embarrassed? i think they are i chuffed, some of them are older, embarrassed? i think they are - chuffed, some of them are older, but most _ chuffed, some of them are older, but most of— chuffed, some of them are older, but most of them — chuffed, some of them are older, but most of them are _ chuffed, some of them are older, but most of them are chuffed _ chuffed, some of them are older, but most of them are chuffed and - chuffed, some of them are older, but most of them are chuffed and they i most of them are chuffed and they come _ most of them are chuffed and they come to— most of them are chuffed and they come to the — most of them are chuffed and they come to the concerts _ most of them are chuffed and they come to the concerts and - most of them are chuffed and they come to the concerts and you - most of them are chuffed and they come to the concerts and you try. most of them are chuffed and theyl come to the concerts and you try to explain _ come to the concerts and you try to explain what — come to the concerts and you try to explain what we _ come to the concerts and you try to explain what we do _ come to the concerts and you try to explain what we do and _ come to the concerts and you try to explain what we do and what - come to the concerts and you try to explain what we do and what kind i come to the concerts and you try to| explain what we do and what kind of band it _ explain what we do and what kind of band it was — explain what we do and what kind of band it was like _ explain what we do and what kind of band it was like and _ explain what we do and what kind of band it was like and may— explain what we do and what kind of band it was like and may be - explain what we do and what kind of band it was like and may be like - explain what we do and what kind ofj band it was like and may be like one direction _ band it was like and may be like one direction seven— band it was like and may be like one direction seven or— band it was like and may be like one direction seven or eight _ band it was like and may be like one direction seven or eight years - band it was like and may be like one direction seven or eight years ago, i direction seven or eight years ago, so we _ direction seven or eight years ago, so we were — direction seven or eight years ago, so we were trying _ direction seven or eight years ago, so we were trying to _ direction seven or eight years ago, so we were trying to describe - direction seven or eight years ago, so we were trying to describe it. i direction seven or eight years ago, | so we were trying to describe it. so for them _ so we were trying to describe it. so for them to— so we were trying to describe it. so for them to come _ so we were trying to describe it. so for them to come to _ so we were trying to describe it. so for them to come to the _ so we were trying to describe it. so for them to come to the concerts,,| for them to come to the concerts,, that's— for them to come to the concerts,, that's impressive. _ for them to come to the concerts,, that's impressive. we _ for them to come to the concerts,, that's impressive.— that's impressive. we did a queen medley on — that's impressive. we did a queen medley on the _ that's impressive. we did a queen medley on the last _ that's impressive. we did a queen medley on the last four _ that's impressive. we did a queen medley on the last four and - that's impressive. we did a queen medley on the last four and we i that's impressive. we did a queen i medley on the last four and we were doing _ medley on the last four and we were doing all— medley on the last four and we were doing all the queen songs and i remember going to the big screen and shaking _ remember going to the big screen and shaking the _ remember going to the big screen and shaking the bump to the camera and at an afterwards, they said, dad, do you have _ at an afterwards, they said, dad, do you have to— at an afterwards, they said, dad, do you have to do that? do at an afterwards, they said, dad, do you have to do that?— you have to do that? do you have to be that green _ you have to do that? do you have to be that green g? _ you have to do that? do you have to be that green g? are _ you have to do that? do you have to be that green g? are they _ you have to do that? do you have to be that green g? are they amazed l be that green g? are they amazed with people _ be that green g? are they amazed with people swooning _ be that green g? are they amazed with people swooning over- be that green g? are they amazed with people swooning over you? i be that green g? are they amazed i with people swooning over you? the da s of with people swooning over you? the days of screaming girls and all of that, _ days of screaming girls and all of that, at— days of screaming girls and all of that, at a — days of screaming girls and all of that, at a concert, it's kind of different— that, at a concert, it's kind of different because they are singing along _ different because they are singing along and there's a lot of noise and when _ along and there's a lot of noise and when the _ along and there's a lot of noise and when the lights go down the audience reacts _ when the lights go down the audience reacts but _ when the lights go down the audience reacts but i _ when the lights go down the audience reacts but i don't think we have screaming _ reacts but i don't think we have screaming girls chasing it down the road _ screaming girls chasing it down the road do— screaming girls chasing it down the road. , ., screaming girls chasing it down the road. ,, ,, not screaming girls chasing it down the road._ not terribly. | road. do you miss it? not terribly. we are older _ road. do you miss it? not terribly. we are older now— road. do you miss it? not terribly. we are older now and _ road. do you miss it? not terribly. we are older now and they - road. do you miss it? not terribly. we are older now and they act - we are older now and they act slightly— we are older now and they act slightly different, our family is. looking — slightly different, our family is. looking back at your material, you are famed for your choreographed routines. and is that something that came automatically and i was asking who is the bad dancer. and is that excepted? t who is the bad dancer. and is that exce hted? ., ., excepted? i find it hard to concentrate _ excepted? i find it hard to concentrate on _ excepted? i find it hard to concentrate on singing i excepted? i find it hard to| concentrate on singing and excepted? i find it hard to - concentrate on singing and dancing at the _ concentrate on singing and dancing at the same time and i will drop out of the _ at the same time and i will drop out of the dance routines but if i had to pick— of the dance routines but if i had to pick what i would pick singing, because — to pick what i would pick singing, because i'm a singer. sometimes it's really— because i'm a singer. sometimes it's really unsubtle and awkward. to be honest. _ really unsubtle and awkward. to be honest. at — really unsubtle and awkward. to be honest, at the beginning, we've never— honest, at the beginning, we've never been known as dancers but we have been— never been known as dancers but we have been known for bits of choreography, like the stills in the background there and simon cowell saw us _ background there and simon cowell saw us standing up on one tv show, on a key— saw us standing up on one tv show, on a key change and it's become quite _ on a key change and it's become quite famous now and he was like, i love it _ quite famous now and he was like, i love it and — quite famous now and he was like, i love it. and he was adding key changes— love it. and he was adding key changes on songs that didn't need them _ changes on songs that didn't need them just— changes on songs that didn't need them just so we could stand up. and --eole them just so we could stand up. and people used to gasp. it _ them just so we could stand up. and people used to gasp. it was - them just so we could stand up. and people used to gasp. it was a - people used to gasp. it was a dramatic moment. _ people used to gasp. it was a dramatic moment. and - people used to gasp. it was a dramatic moment. and our. people used to gasp. it was a i dramatic moment. and our new people used to gasp. it was a - dramatic moment. and our new single is the first key — dramatic moment. and our new single is the first key change _ dramatic moment. and our new single is the first key change we've _ dramatic moment. and our new single is the first key change we've had - dramatic moment. and our new single is the first key change we've had in i is the first key change we've had in a while _ is the first key change we've had in a while. did is the first key change we've had in a while. , , ., a while. did you ever get the timing com-letel a while. did you ever get the timing completely wrong? _ a while. did you ever get the timing completely wrong? i've _ a while. did you ever get the timing completely wrong? i've got - completely wrong? i've got impeccable _ completely wrong? i've got impeccable timing, - completely wrong? i've got impeccable timing, but - completely wrong? i've got impeccable timing, but not| completely wrong? i've got i impeccable timing, but not in completely wrong? i've got - impeccable timing, but not in the morning — impeccable timing, but not in the morninv. ., , , ., impeccable timing, but not in the morning-— youi morning. you build up to it. you lean back— morning. you build up to it. you lean back slightly _ morning. you build up to it. you lean back slightly first. - morning. you build up to it. you lean back slightly first. can - morning. you build up to it. you lean back slightly first. can you | morning. you build up to it. you i lean back slightly first. can you do it? have we _ lean back slightly first. can you do it? have we got _ lean back slightly first. can you do it? have we got some _ lean back slightly first. can you do it? have we got some music? - lean back slightly first. can you do it? have we got some music? i i it? have we got some music? i haven't rehearsed. field - it? have we got some music? i haven't rehearsed. field gear. it? have we got some music? i - haven't rehearsed. field gear change and then do — haven't rehearsed. field gear change and then do it. _ haven't rehearsed. field gear change and then do it. you _ haven't rehearsed. field gear change and then do it. you have _ haven't rehearsed. field gear change and then do it. you have to - haven't rehearsed. field gear change and then do it. you have to look- haven't rehearsed. field gear change and then do it. you have to look in i and then do it. you have to look in the distance _ and then do it. you have to look in the distance where _ and then do it. you have to look in the distance where there - and then do it. you have to look in the distance where there is - and then do it. you have to look ml the distance where there is nothing there _ the distance where there is nothing there i— the distance where there is nothing there. ., , ., ., there. i was rather moved. i remember— there. i was rather moved. i remember interviewing - there. i was rather moved. i remember interviewing the | there. i was rather moved. i- remember interviewing the poldark stars and they said there was a look they did on the cliffs and at some point everyone had to do a look where they go, oh. there is a special look. it's a similar feel. we know in videos where you do the confused _ we know in videos where you do the confused look— we know in videos where you do the confused look and _ we know in videos where you do the confused look and you _ we know in videos where you do the confused look and you look - we know in videos where you do the confused look and you look at - we know in videos where you do the confused look and you look at the i confused look and you look at the camera _ confused look and you look at the camera. ., ., . , confused look and you look at the camera. ., ., . .,, , ., camera. can we get a close-up on the confused look? _ camera. can we get a close-up on the confused look? he _ camera. can we get a close-up on the confused look? he was _ camera. can we get a close-up on the confused look? he was always - camera. can we get a close-up on the confused look? he was always doing i confused look? he was always doing it. it's like you have to multiply 242 x 94. not i do that face quite a lot on this programme.— 242 x 94. not i do that face quite a lot on this programme. when you were writin: the lot on this programme. when you were writing the knewstubb _ lot on this programme. when you were writing the knewstubb during _ writing the knewstubb during lockdown, you couldn't travel more than 2km away. lockdown, you couldn't travel more than 2km away-— lockdown, you couldn't travel more than 2km away._ so - lockdown, you couldn't travel more than 2km away._ so you | lockdown, you couldn't travel more i than 2km away._ so you did than 2km away. then 5km. so you did eve hinv than 2km away. then 5km. so you did everything over— than 2km away. then 5km. so you did everything over the _ than 2km away. then 5km. so you did everything over the phone. _ than 2km away. then 5km. so you did everything over the phone. the - than 2km away. then 5km. so you did everything over the phone. the one i everything over the phone. the one thin that everything over the phone. the one thing that became _ everything over the phone. the one thing that became apparent - everything over the phone. the one thing that became apparent was - everything over the phone. the one thing that became apparent was we j thing that became apparent was we could _ thing that became apparent was we could make an album and we couldn't do anything _ could make an album and we couldn't do anything as a band but we could make _ do anything as a band but we could make an _ do anything as a band but we could make an album separately and we had a mobile _ make an album separately and we had a mobile ring that went around the houses _ a mobile ring that went around the houses. did you properly sanitise it. i houses. did you properly sanitise it. , , it. i genuinely sanitise it, especially _ it. i genuinely sanitise it, especially when - it. i genuinely sanitise it, especially when i - it. i genuinely sanitise it, especially when i came i it. i genuinely sanitise it, i especially when i came out it. i genuinely sanitise it, - especially when i came out of nikki's— especially when i came out of nikki's house. _ especially when i came out of nikki's house. that _ especially when i came out of nikki's house. that was - especially when i came out of nikki's house. that was a - especially when i came out of. nikki's house. that was a joke. especially when i came out of- nikki's house. that was a joke. you nikki's house. that was a 'oke. you mivht nikki's house. that was a 'oke. you might hear— nikki's house. that was a 'oke. you might hear a — nikki's house. that was a joke. might hear a couple of dogs nikki's house. that was a joke.“ might hear a couple of dogs barking. it might hear a couple of dogs barking. it was _ might hear a couple of dogs barking. it was amazing to make it that way. and you _ it was amazing to make it that way. and you got — it was amazing to make it that way. and you got the children on board, so that will add to the cool factor. everybody knows it is a big star but he is _ everybody knows it is a big star but he is a _ everybody knows it is a big star but he is a songwriter and that part of ed sheeran— he is a songwriter and that part of ed sheeran is how a lot of songs of his have _ ed sheeran is how a lot of songs of his have ended up on the album because — his have ended up on the album because he's a brilliant songwriter and song — because he's a brilliant songwriter and song writers tend to write a lot of songs _ and song writers tend to write a lot of songs and he supposedly writes 25 songs— of songs and he supposedly writes 25 songs a _ of songs and he supposedly writes 25 songs a week. of songs and he supposedly writes 25 songs a week-— of songs and he supposedly writes 25 songs a week. does he have the note about always — songs a week. does he have the note about always putting _ songs a week. does he have the note about always putting the _ songs a week. does he have the note about always putting the key - songs a week. does he have the note about always putting the key change | about always putting the key change in. he about always putting the key change in. , ., ~' , about always putting the key change in. , ., ,, , . ., about always putting the key change in. , ., ~' , . ., �* in. he put a key change in, didn't he? not on _ in. he put a key change in, didn't he? not on this _ in. he put a key change in, didn't he? not on this one. _ in. he put a key change in, didn't he? not on this one. we - in. he put a key change in, didn't he? not on this one. we said - in. he put a key change in, didn't he? not on this one. we said no | in. he put a key change in, didn't. he? not on this one. we said no key chance, he? not on this one. we said no key change. and — he? not on this one. we said no key change. and we _ he? not on this one. we said no key change, and we were _ he? not on this one. we said no key change, and we were like _ he? not on this one. we said no key change, and we were like ? - he? not on this one. we said no key change, and we were like ? we - he? not on this one. we said no key change, and we were like ? we are i change, and we were like ? we are 'ust change, and we were like ? we are just waiting — change, and we were like ? we are just waiting to _ change, and we were like ? we are just waiting to see _ change, and we were like ? we are just waiting to see if _ change, and we were like ? we are just waiting to see if it _ change, and we were like ? we are just waiting to see if it will- change, and we were like ? we are just waiting to see if it will be - change, and we were like ? we are just waiting to see if it will be a - just waiting to see if it will be a hit. �* , , ., , ., just waiting to see if it will be a hit. 2 , ., , ., hit. it's been lovely having you here this morning. _ hit. it's been lovely having you here this morning. we - hit. it's been lovely having you here this morning. we will. hit. it's been lovely having you here this morning. we will putj hit. it's been lovely having you i here this morning. we will put it hit. it's been lovely having you - here this morning. we will put it on social media. _ here this morning. we will put it on social media, just _ here this morning. we will put it on social media, just a _ here this morning. we will put it on social media, just a move - here this morning. we will put it on social media, just a move where i here this morning. we will put it on | social media, just a move where you stood up. it has moved us all immensely. stood up. it has moved us all immensely-— stood up. it has moved us all immensely. stood up. it has moved us all immensel . �*, ., immensely. there's something about it. can we incorporate _ immensely. there's something about it. can we incorporate it _ immensely. there's something about it. can we incorporate it in _ immensely. there's something about it. can we incorporate it in what - immensely. there's something about it. can we incorporate it in what we i it. can we incorporate it in what we do. if ou it. can we incorporate it in what we do- if you did _ it. can we incorporate it in what we do- if you did it. — it. can we incorporate it in what we do. if you did it, it _ it. can we incorporate it in what we do. if you did it, it would _ it. can we incorporate it in what we do. if you did it, it would be - do. if you did it, it would be cra . do. if you did it, it would be crazy- now— do. if you did it, it would be crazy. now we _ do. if you did it, it would be crazy. now we roam - do. if you did it, it would be - crazy. now we roam manchester, you can come with — crazy. now we roam manchester, you can come with us. — crazy. now we roam manchester, you can come with us, and _ crazy. now we roam manchester, you can come with us, and we _ crazy. now we roam manchester, you can come with us, and we can - crazy. now we roam manchester, you can come with us, and we can do - crazy. now we roam manchester, you can come with us, and we can do it i can come with us, and we can do it next _ can come with us, and we can do it next year~ — can come with us, and we can do it next year-— next year. charlie is up for it. we have to go- _ westlife's new album wild dreams will be released tomorrow. you're watching bbc breakfast. it's 8.59. this is bbc news with the latest headlines the uk and france agree to step up efforts to stop people crossing the channel after 27 men, women and a child drowned when their boat sank as they tried to reach the shores of dover. the immigration minister says human trafficking gangs must be stopped. we are so determined to smack this model of this really evil business model. macros stop t macros he chair of a fan—led review into football says the sport needs an independent regulator. do you agree? 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