but it is a confusing picture because if you imagine that dinghy was very overloaded, perhaps up to 50 people on board who didn t know each other. so it s difficult for the authorities to know precisely how many people may still be missing. but it s clear that if it weren t for that fishing boat out in the channel yesterday morning, we could be talking about potentially a0 or 50 deaths here. so for the emergency services, some relief that we were able to save so many lives. but obviously a great sense of shock and grief, really, that they were not able to save everyone who was on that boat. simonjones in simon jones in dover. and for more on that story lets speak to zerah hasan, advocacy director at thejoint council for welfare of immigrants. thank you forjoining us. it is a tragic backdrop to be talking after this incident off the kent coast. we have heard in response, the uk s
saying that at a time when families are welcoming ukrainian refugees into this home, this is slamming the door into the faces of people fleeing persecution. ispoke door into the faces of people fleeing persecution. i spoke to the kent refugee group who described this as appalling. at the moment priti patel is in rwanda visiting an accommodation block that could be used to house 100 asylum seekers sent from the uk. we are not sure of the timescale or how many people overall the uk would seek to percent. lots of questions and we will get further details this morning from the prime minister and from priti patel 4000 miles away in remand. ,, ., , ., ., simonjones in rwanda. we can speak now to zoe gardner, from thejoint council for the welfare of immigrants. the time to time when people in the uk are showing a lot of compassion
for why it was necessary and i think he also, i think quite rightly, showed that we have a very generous, welcoming, all embracing system already in place for welcoming genuine refugees. it s whether this proposal to send some of those crossing in boats to rwanda, whether it will have the effect of dissuading people from setting off across the channel. that. time will tell, i suppose. well, zoe gardner from thejoint council for the welfare of immigrants has condemned the plans. this policy is despicable. it s an absolute disgrace. the people of this country have shown time and again that we are warm and we are welcoming and we want to help refugees
some could have 70 to 80 around the coast, some could have 70 to 80 miles an hour. an unsettled period of the coming our way. charlie. carroll, thank you so much, sorry, i can t believe i cold you charlie! called you charlie! sorry! let s return now to that tragedy in the channel which has prompted the leaders of britain and france to agree on the need to urgently step up theirjoint efforts to prevent people from crossing. the prime minister borisjohnson spoke to president emmanuel macron by phone last night. but what sort of measures would make a difference? let s get a view from the dover mp natalie elphicke, and zoe gardner, from thejoint council for the welfare of immigrants. good morning to you both. as many people have said, it is a day that perhaps was inevitable, because of what has been happening, and the number of crossings that we are seeing over the channel. natalie elphicke, what do you think needs to be done now? we know the uk is