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we ve all got a big decision to make about who leads the country for the next five years, about who has power and influence in westminster. you get the opportunity to have your say in the election on july the fourth. on monday, we heard from the prime minister rishi sunak and during this campaign we re talking to other party leaders. tonight, it s the turn of the leader of the opposition, labour leader sir keir starmer. sir keir, welcome. thank you very much for having me on. my promise at the start of this interview is that what you say in the next half hour or so will be broadcast in full. i want to give you the chance to make your case, and want you to answer some questions, so if you would do your best to do that. one thing we should also make clear is you don t know what the questions are in advance. thank you. three weeks from today, you could be spending your first night in downing street as our new prime minister. are you ready? yes, i know that we ve got to ear ....
It s, like, i don t want to have to f-ing deal with these you know, he is talking about asia. he didn t even look at me. he was just kind of like, just, smoking and just sort of looking out and just like f. i wish i had said more to him in that moment. you know, tony hasn t been all right for a long time. the amount that he joked about the end of his life and he has been chasing that shut forever. so depressed right now, i feel like killing myself. he is a f-ing runner. he ran for a long time. but you re not going to outsmart pain. i m pretty sure that pole will support my body weight, if i hang myself. i think in some regard he was going to write his end, which is ....
To date has been glacial. the bbc successfully challenged a court order which had prevented reporting of this case. lifting the anonymity order, thejudge said she had no doubt tony s case was in the public interest and it was clear that a lack of resources had left him detained for so long. tony s care right now is funded by the nhs, but ongoing support in the community would have to be paid for by the council, who told us. they are working with the nhs and tony s family to find other options. the judge has told them to get on with it, right? we ve only got this limited time. we re still not doing it, we re still fighting over money. can you believe you re at stage where you had to go to court? to get him out and actually, none of the authorities thinks he should be in there? no. that s the problem. everyone we speak to, they say, this isn t the right place for tony. ....
In the long stay institutions. ultimately, these settings should not exist, and ifeel strongly about it because we have so much testimony from people with learning disabilities, people with autism, and theirfamilies, about how harmful their experience is, and has been, when they are removed from all that is familiar. nhs england told us they are continuing to work to find the highly specialised support required. the judge has ordered authorities finally find a plan to bring him back to brighton by may next year. tony s wait continues. when we visited tone and we re leaving, he pushes his face right to the window and watches us till we disappear. i can t look back. what have they done to all of us, the family? they ve destroyed us. oh, dear. jayne mccubbin, bbc news. ....
He explains what colour wallpaper i ve got up. that s long gone. furniture, his memory is, that s all he s got, is home. he talks about the neighbours. all them neighbours have gone. they ve died. i mean, we ve travel back sometimes, we pull in, we both sit down and cry. i mean, i ve come home, i ve got pam, she s got me. he s got nobody. tony is in an assessment and treatment unit. they are really designed for short term stays in a crisis. the problem here isn t tony but the system. psychiatrists say he has been fit for discharge since 2013. but the process of trying to get him his own place to live, with the right support, back here in brighton, has been bogged down in delays and wrangles. so this month, the family went to the court of protection to try and break the deadlock. there, a judge said the delays are facing tony have been egregious. that the progress made ....