counting votes. and the biggest thing when you say, hey, what happened last night? and i just tell people, don't look at virginia look at new jersey. 1:00 p.m., the day after the election night, it's still too close to call in new jersey that in itself is a headline. biden won that state by 16 points last year, just a year ago. where democrat phil murphy won by 14 points in 2017, hillary clinton won the state by 14 points in 2016. you get my drift. this wasn't just a blue state. this was kind of a dark blue state. democrats expected virginia would be potentially very close but not new jersey. the vote count there so far means democrats can't explain away what happened in new jersey, as a result of any one problem. about this candidate trying to nitpick and deflect blame away from themselves. the big take away from last night, democrats have problems they have to face everywhere and it's all over the ideological spectrum. you don't think you're part of the problem and you're a democrat in power? you haven't looked in the mirror this morning. this morning, democrat terry mcauliffe officially conceded to glenn youngkin. youngkin delivered his acceptance speech last night. the overwhelming message that the democratic party and that means leadership in washington are out of touch with swing voters. democrats can't blame campaign strategy, they can. but the combined movement last night tells a simple story, the political environment was everything. president's declining approval rating, the stall on capitol hill, very poor messaging. democrats have a lot of holes to plug and they got to plug them fast because 2022 started yesterday. let's start our messaging beginning in the northern virginia suburbs. so, this is what's interesting, the trump messaging for terry mcauliffe did work in one place, the northern virginia suburbs. i'll show you here. i want to show you the gubernatorial races, he actually overperformed himself from 2013. he got more raw vote than northam did out of here. there's loudon, chipping away. he basically underperformed what cuccinelli did. but then you go to the suburbs not in northern virginia, this is where you can draw a klee. the trump messaging, it worked with those set of voters but let's go to the suburbs in virginia that aren't in the washington media market. and i will take you down to now outside -- first, we'll start outside of richmond in chesterfield county. well, this is where youngkin carried the county. it is a flip. northam carried this county, and biden. and virginia beach, biden flipped it, northam carried it also. it was a flip both in 2020 and 2017. then you get there and say, okay, what else did it? well, terry did have a problem with african american voters. here's hatchton county. he underperformed biden, he also underperformed northam out of there. let's go to rural african american county, particularly greenville county which has 60% african american. again, underperforms normham and biden. and suffolk county, the same, underperforms biden and northam. yes, he got what he needed out of the northern suburbs. trump worked here, but trump didn't work here and here and maybe on the flip side is what happened on the rural counties. let me just show you this, this is where youngkin ran up the score and essentially took whatever advantage that mcauliffe got out of the northern suburb and wiped away. youngkin not only underperformed what gillespie got, but you can pick any county, the story is the same, mcauliffe, the same, raw vote is northam, that turns into a 5% drop because youngkin nearly doubles everything that he has. here the same. a 50% increase in youngkin's vote. you throw that in there. supercharged turnout there. mediocre suburban turnout for the democrats, mediocre african american turnout and the only place he hit it was the northern suburbs. let me show you the state of new jersey. you want to look at suburban problems here. first of all, let's talk about republican turnouts, the two big republican counties, ocean county, to the presidential, he overturned trump by five points, going to ocean, monmouth, same thing, ten-point increase for ciattarelli, and bergen county looking for more vote, murphy is going to carry it but a much smaller number. let's go to ppassaic, we're stil waiting for more vote to come in but this is a county that biden carried by 16 points. let me see here, 16 points is what biden carried the state by -- you see my drift here, okay. by the way, you want to see flips, morris county essentially looks like a flip. biden carried it, by the way, not a county that murphy carried. the anti-trump vote that went biden and then essentially came home to the republican party. so, you see the bigger story, democrats had suburb problems outside of everywhere, except for northern virginia which is an unique anti-trump vote that did fire people up in that one media market. everywhere else, you had a problem for democrats in the suburbs, a problem for democrats in certain african american turnouts and a supercharged republican electorate that was nearly presidential turnout. throw the whole thing together, you got this for the democrats a calamity, and for republicans, one of their better election nights in nearly a decade, nbc's correspondent kristen welker joins me now. kristen, the white house was beginning its sort of distancing itself from terry mcauliffe's loss, not really expecting or realizing that this isn't about virginia and terry mcauliffe and glenn youngkin, this is a much bigger problem because we're still waiting to see what happened in new jersey. have they reassessed, what responsibility they hold for this disastrous night for democrats? >> reporter: well, i think they're in the process of doing that right now, chuck. there are a lot of meetings going on here behind closed doors as they figure out what if any messaging they're going to be putting out today. but i think what you saw overnight was an attempt to start spinning the results that we all witnessed last night. that you just mapped out. and you're absolutely right. the finger pointing started days ago with the democrats saying that terry mcauliffe shouldn't be running a campaign, but it's just about running against former president donald trump, that he should have something to run on. overnight, the white house essentially ramped up its calls for the president's agenda to be passed in congress. that's really an acknowledgement, chuck, if you take a look at it, that that did have an impact on results last night. the fact that there's been so much infighting and intransigence has frustrated voters and democrats in the state. i've been talking to sources on capitol hill today. democrats who are trying to make the case well it's not necessarily the intransigence. but the bottom line, chuck, this administration did not have a clear enough strategy when it came to getting its own priorities passed through congress. and that's why you're seeing this intransigence in action. >> let me ask you this, kristen, is anybody having this sort of larger philosophical conversation there yet, which is, did they misread their own mandate. it does look to me, a lot of suburban voted for biden over trump. they were looking for normalcy, a sense of stability and calm. are they concerned that those things say to voters they don't think they're getting that right now, and maybe that's why they either went back to the republicans or didn't show up? >> reporter: well, i think the argument that you are seeing from democrats and from this white house right now is that the frustration with voters is not necessarily because of the substance of the agenda. but because they haven't acted quickly enough on the agenda. you in fact saw progressives overnight say this is proof that we need to get these progressive priorities passed even though you saw defeats for progressives overnights including in minneapolis, where that ballot measure was defeated. i think they're still trying to put the pieces together in terms what this means, for the agenda, chuck, they have set the deadline at the end of this week to get the infrastructure passed. the build back better plan passed. and the question is, will they be able to meet that because they just put paid leave back into the plan. i talked to joe manchin coming out saying i'm not going to support that. we're right back where we started. >> it is, and our friends mowing the lawn are making the discussion even more difficult with you, kristen, thank you. joining me south carolina congressman jim clyburn. congressman, you never duck a bad night. i appreciate that with you today. and you've seen the foreshadow last night a little bit during a talk you had, i think, with some supporters down in south carolina about a week ago. and you were questioning whether democrats had the will to sort of win. and i think -- and i'm curious, what did you mean by that? and do you feel sadly sort of vindicated by what happened last night? all right, hang on, congressman, i think we have a sound issue there. >> well, thank you. thanks for having me, chuck. the sound that you hear will not be a lawnmower, more moaning and groaning about last night. but, you know, what i was saying a week or so ago was what i detected as i went into new jersey. in fact, i had just come out of new jersey when i made those comments. and i certainly saw this happening again in virginia. i spent saturday and sunday there. and the willingness to get outside of what's comfortable, i say developing the will to win it means that sometimes, we have to seek common ground, to get outside of their own comfort zone. and i think the true meaning of democrats wish to stay in the area that they feel most comfortable. and not seem to be afraid to take a chance on another person. and that's why i'm saying, we've got to trust each other. moderates got to trust progressives. progressives got to trust moderates. and all in between that we've got these caucuses that we have to sit down, find common ground. and it takes some willingness to do that which i have not seen. and i think the results indicate that that willingness to do so is not there. >> let me talk, let me split this up into a few places. let's start with the issue of the real problem for democrats. we talked last night, glenn youngkin, and jack ciattarelli were able to chip away at the suburbs, when was the last time that democrats were able to chip away at the suburbs? whatever significance got erased by the gangbuster turnout in the rural parts. by the way, you saw this first hand this is what happened to jaime harrison in south carolina. when you talk about comfort zone, that's the first thing that came to my head. i don't think democrats are comfortable campaigning in rural america, and they don't go and it becomes self-fulfilling. >> you're absolutely correct about that with things i've experienced and other things i've experienced over the last few years, when i started talking about an infrastructure bill that has to go big, you cannot have telemedicine without drawback. you cannot have kids at home having with pandemic without broad back. and you cannot have businesses in rural areas until just in time deliveries. that's why i've been pushing that. that's why we've got to pass the bills, infrastructure bill, people would feel comfortable with it we would have a message for rural america. yes, rural, the community, federally qualified community health centers throughout rural america, i've been hopping on that for a dozen years now. i just to be called jim broadback. >> the democratic part is too cosmopolitan now? or perceived? >> yeah. the perception. you look at the map you just put up with the red and the blue, that's what it looks like. >> how about the issue of whether -- you know, you have another issue of messaging. and i'll put it this way. a lot of people look at gas prices and then sit there and say, man, this economy's tough, right? we know that that one number has a huge impact on the psyche of americans. has a huge impact on the perception of inflation. has a huge impact on the perception money in their pocket. i haven't heard democrats talking about those bread and butter issues. look, the other side was talking about it, because they saw an opportunity. and democrats seemed to not be focused on the bread and butter issues here post-covid. do you think there's a misalignment there? >> well, i think several days ago, to be exact, i know yesterday, we announced the deal having been struck on pricing. that to me is a recognition of the fact there's a pocketbook issue like no other. i think that we are doing that -- look, joe biden made it fairly clear that he was not going to entertain any kind of increase in gasoline tax or anything else in middle income america. so it's a recognition of that fact. the problem is, i think you said it at the top of the program today, that the problem becomes the messaging. get that message out there as to what we've really done. we had a $1.9 trillion rescue plan out there. and the only thing people talk about is the fact that we had the child tax credit. that was a small part of that. there's so much more there that we need to connect with the american people. all the rumors floating around several weeks ago, about us cutting hbcus. we'd never cut any hbcus. you look at the rescue plan in the last eight months, we wiped out the capital debt that hbcus had. we saw that covid-19 made it impossible for kids to come to school and therefore, we couldn't service the debts. we wiped it away. nobody talks about that. almost $6.5 trillion, $1 billion, invested in hgbcus and nobody talked about it. talking about the campuses, i hear you're cutting hgbcu, but they're not sure. >> at the end of the day, you have one leader of the party at a time. that leader is the president of the united states. he has more to do with this than anybody. what does he need to do? how do you recalibrate here? >> i think he will. i know joe biden real well. and i think that joe biden will make some assessments over the next few hours. and you'll see him articulate to the american people exactly what he wants to see the democratic party grow. and we're going to follow him. and i think that we're going to recover from yesterday, and a year from yesterday, we're going to do well. >> do you have any concerns about whether the party's coming across as too progressive for swing voters? >> no, i don't. i really think if you look at what we're doing to build back better, that's a pretty progressive agenda. but that's an agenda that over 70% of the american people agree with. and you look at what we're doing with the so-called bipartisan infrastructure bill, that's a pretty conservative agenda. but that's an agenda that over 77% of the american people agree with. so, you have to balance these things out. i think these two programs, over a tremendous balancing act that we got to get past and go out and tell the american people exactly what we've done. if we do that, i think we'll be fine come 2022. >> congressman jim clyburn, democrat from south carolina, number three in house leadership. always a pleasure to get your perspective, particularly on a day like this. thanks for coming on. >> thank you very much for having me. >> you got it. let me turn now to that deadlocked gubernatorial race in new jersey, not only is the race too close to call between democrat phil murphy and republican jack ciattarelli. just a confusion over the vote counting itself. anyway, ehema ellis joins us from hoboken. rehema, i'm focused on that because i get a sense that neither party is happy with the election in the state here in the various counties of new jersey. >> reporter: they're probably not, because we're still talking who is the winner in this and they'd like to have that over and done with. but there's some numbers i'm going to help to explain to you, it's my kornacki moment so bear with me, chuck. one of the things we just found out about here in hudson county where hoboken is located, sees a double count vote. what does that mean? murphy's numbers went down by 10,000 votes and ciattarelli's numbers went down by 2,000 votes. that's impacting the bottom line. here's another thing impacting that. 900,000 ballots were mailed to people. they have received some 545,000 of those ballots back. they got those back by monday. they didn't start counting those until election day, so they've got to count those. here's another, they've bought 355,000 additional, they don't know how many of those are postmarked by election day. they will wait until monday, november 8th, they're coming in, the last point to be received, monday, november 8th, they're counting those and they don't know how many there will be. these kind of things can happen in an election, when you have a landslide, murphy had over 3,000 votes that he won in 2017. in terms of mail-in votes, it did not impact the outcome, but when you have a close election as you well know, every single vote can impact the outcome. >> now, back in florida, you put any state under a microscope in a close election, and you're not going to necessarily love what you find. but i am curious, what is the governor doing today and what is ciattarelli doing today? as it sounds like they cannot call this race until next week. >> reporter: it does sound that way. they've been quiet, there's nothing on the schedule for the governor this morning. and ciattarelli is quiet, too. they are basically, they made their statements last night, midnight, unite-l just after midnight, how they felt about the race, ciattarelli said he's feeling really good and not ready to declare victory. murphy was saying the same thing. the numbers that i'm giving you, those guys have those numbers. you know, we're a drive-through society, we want it done instantly, order a hamburger at one window by the time we get 20 feet up, we want the hamburger. but it doesn't happen in these elections. >> well, amazon does deliver. rehema, ellis. up next, democrats got caught, but what are they going to do about it? you're watching "meet the press daily." daily. ♪ liberty, liberty - liberty, liberty ♪ uh, i'll settle for something i can dance to. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ ♪ ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ at vanguard, you're more than just an investor, you're an owner with access to financial advice, tools and a personalized plan that helps you build a future for those you love. vanguard. become an owner. hearing is important to living life to the fullest. that's why inside every miracle-ear store, you'll find a better life. it all starts with the most innovative technology. like the new miracle-earmini, available exclusively at miracle-ear. so small that no one will see it, but you'll notice the difference. and now, miracle-ear is offering a thirty-day risk-free trial. you can experience better hearing with no obligation. call 1-800-miracle right now and experience a better life. we've spent enough time talking, enough time thinking and enough time suggesting to america that good things are coming. now, we've got to prove it. >> congress has to deliver. window's closing. we have no more time. we need to get it done, and as one who will be running for re-election in 2022, i need results that i can show the american people that congress can deliver. >> welcome back. you heard really some of the messaging just a few minutes ago from jim clyburn in his interview with me. if there's certainly a sense that congress has to get this stuff done now, is it going to get harder, not easier? anyway, there's some of the action, democrats, 12 months from the 2022 midterm, democrats want action and they sure seem desperate for something to sell. joining me a couple of democratic experts, former obama adviser and campaign manager, and also a west wing veteran herself, stephanie cutter. stephanie, considering your days in the west wing, you've been in the west wing on bad political days and good political days. look, we can cherry-pick mcauliffe to death, you start looking at the collective, and he's going to have to show some sense of i get it, i get something. what is that and how shall he do it? >> well, i expect that we will hear that today. no inside information, i want to make that clear. >> okay. >> that he's going to talk about, democrats were elected to get things done. they were elected to focus on the people, not the party politics. and the programs that will help those people make ends meet, build a better life, we need to be singularly focused on them, i think what you'll hear today is, like, there are really good policies on the table. and the build back better agenda, and obviously infrastructure. last night wasn't about the popularity of those programs. those programs are very popular across the political spectrum. we've lost the message on them because it's about the price tag, rather than how it's actually going to help people. by the way, the price tag is zero. and i think democrats need to come together and focus on that. enough with the innerparty fighting, the progressives versus the moderates, and manchin versus sinema, versus the progressive caucus. let's focus on the programs and get it done. that's why joe biden was elected. because he was focused on the american people, having their backs and because he was competent and experienced and could move the agenda forward. >> i don't know if you caught what jim clyburn was saying, we talked about the perception that democrats are a bit of as could cosmopolitan party, it sounds like, stephanie, you're saying meet the voters where they're at. clyburn is saying get a little uncomfortable. i think democrats were trying to wish it away. the mcauliffe issue, it's not an issue -- are you sure? >> you and i were talking about this sunday. >> yes, we were. >> crt was on the ballot. and quite frankly it wasn't a mobilizing energizing force on the right. and democrats, i've been on enough calls with democrats where it's like, you know, let's pivot and talk about something else. no, you can't pivot and talk about something else. crt is the latest lionel of school bussing, schooltown bussing, welfare queens, you saw it in results in virginia when you saw that swing ofwomen, fo the democrats. and problematic about energizing the base. look, i agree, we got the points on the board, right? we have a very popular agenda if we would get out of our own way and pass it -- >> exactly. >> -- and pass it, we would have passed this a month ago. >> we're going to pass it and say why have you waited. >> because of the infighting. obama passed a lot of things that were really popular as well, right? we know because we tested them. >> it really helped, eight years for the voters. >> it's not simply about passing things that are popular we've got to give people something to vote for. and quite frankly, when you look at the energy of the base right now, they been marching on the streets and the polls for bridges and roads. yes, we want bridges and roads but we got to get bigger on our messaging about that. >> we talked about new youngkin chipped away in the suburbs -- >> not just chipped. he shoveled. >> in the northern virginia suburbs there was a chip. in the other suburbs it was certainly more than that. here's what i haven't seen in almost a decade is when are democrats going to chip away in rural america? >> uh-huh. >> and they're going to have to start trying because the numbers were ghastly, when you look at youngkin -- mcauliffe did get rural virginia. i think the only place the trump message works is in this media market. probably, kindly, understandable. youngkin basically took away that advantage just with rural turnout. >> we have not won in rural america since 2006 and 2008. >> that's not that long ago, actually. >> it's not that long ago. and it -- you know, cornell, you just said that we have to be bigger than roads and bridges. i have a feeling that people will, america, will care about roads and bridges, they care about clean drinking water. >> broadband. you want telehealth, broadband. >> that is an agenda that is important for everybody. is society changing? does it make us a more fair country? no. but does it make the country work and does it help people get to work, get to school, make things work better? absolutely. that's not the only thing we need to do but that is an important element in speaking to all americans. now, i do think that rural americans also care about the child of child care. and they also care about how expensive their health care is. why aren't we spreading that message into rural america. if we get the build back better agenda done, we need to. those are programs that will directly put money in the pockets of americans in rural america. >> it's hard to disagree with anything you said because i completely agree with you, however, they're not running up the score in rural america because of they're putting a better policy up. >> right. >> right, that they're feeding them anger, they're feeding them resentment. we've got to do a better job around the values piece. but too often democrats think all borders are transactional, right? if i give you this for your pocketbook, you're going to vote for me. so much of america, especially rural america, they make sense of the prisms and their rural, we're not connecting with them, part of that is connected to racialism, we can staun pretending that it's not because we do. >> i totally agree with you. and the one thing that we need to make sure that republicans in 2022 don't become is the party of parents because we need to be the party of parents. and we are, we're the ones that care about school funding. we're the ones that care about making sure that parents can send their kids to school, because they have jobs to go to. you know, all of this. we need to own that agenda. we cannot let it go, it's not just critical race theory. it's coming out of covid, parents involved in schooling. we need to pay attention to you of it. >> the biggest thing that people have got to understand about northern virginia, the entire area was shut down. >> uh-huh, yes. >> so it was easy to rile up parents. they were really, really frustrated. cornell and stephanie, that was a very good venting session. thank you very much. up next, we're going to have sort of the flip side of this conversation. what do republicans do now to try to carry on what they had last night? is there a road map for them following their big wins last night? is there a road map for them in the midterms? have they figured out how to balance trump's popularity in rural america and distance himself in suburban america by focusing on parents? we'll see, you're watching "meet the press daily." growing up in a little red house, on the edge of a forest in norway, there were three things my family encouraged: kindness, honesty and hard work. over time, i've come to add a fourth: be curious. be curious about the world around us, and then go. go with an open heart, and you will find inspiration anew. viking. exploring the world in comfort. welcome back to our post-election coverage on "meet the press daily." i promised you the flip side of the last segment, with me a republican pollster for the washington examiner, and matt gorman, communications director for the nrcc. okay. it was really interesting, we were talking about this issue of parents. right before you came on, literally the last thing stephanie cutter said was, we can't let the republican party become the party of parents. that's what the democrats need to be. obviously, republicans think they struck something here. do you think it will go national? >> i think it can. republicans have shown in the past 24 hours every piece that that's the direction they want to go. you've seen house leadership making statements that they are putting forward a parents bill of rights. i think a lot of folks are looking at youngkin saying he pulled this off. yes, national political environment is a piece of it, obviously what happened in new jersey has moved in a different direction but taken what winners have done and replicate in other places. i don't know how much others will do with exactly what youngkin did, he had may goic formula. that's not to take away from the message that did resonate with parents and had opened the door with republicans. >> matt, the formula seems pretty simple, right? get a runup presidential election in rural parts of the blue state and chip away at the state. it was a magic formula. it worked. it got you the 2 two-point win. but what helped, donald trump did stay away. he accepted it, and the trump way of thinking, donald trump is not a person to be tamed. >> no you're absolutely right. in that last week when he started making murmurs about going to the rally. >> i think northern virginia turned out to prove that. >> i think you're right. was it replicable, maybe, maybe not. you look at glenn youngkin, you don't see donald trump. he loose be like the guy who approves my hr report, right? that's inherent. when you talk about those issues what glenn youngkin did, he didn't sound like donald trump when he talked about the issues, economy, education and crime. those are issues that can appeal to the base. but they also chipped away in loudoun, they chipped away in virginia beach. able to keep that seesaw at equilibrium i think made it key. >> kristen, how much do you think, when you look at this, is it more of a rejection? there seems to be voters in the middle who fall in two categories either they think one party is awful and the other party sucks or the other party is awful and the other party sucks, they'll probably support the sucky party and not the other. how much do you think the democrats helped in the suburbs and how much do you think it's a softer message? >> i don't imagine a lot of these new voters that probably voted for biden and voted for youngkin are suddenly loving the republican party, but open to the republican party. thermostat opinion, when things get too hot, voters like to turn it down, vice versa. when they look at washington, not governing very well, spending tons and tons of money, whoa, whoa, we voted for calm and competence in the biden administration. we didn't get it. maybe democrats are not what we're signing up for today. i'm sure if we went in the field and asked voters would you rather have the party in power or time for change? not saying republican or democrat, keep the folks in power or time for a change, i betcha time for a change wins in a landslide. >> when things are going good, you say, oh, that's a good night, what would be your, hey, don't overreach? >> i think the keys there are on education. to take this agency entirely about race with education, that's taking the wrong lesson. when you make this about critical race, it's broader than that. >> in virginia, parents were upset about schools being closed. >> that's right. it was broader than that. it was education. i think if we lean too hard and make education more of a cultural issue that's where we have a chance. >> a lot of the chair ra tour saying, sand instead of% of republicans saying we shouldn't be teaching a complete history of the united states, including the awful things that have happened about race. that's not the message. to your point, if the message becomes well, let's put in place bills that inadvertently -- or as a direct consequence, we'll begin doing that in the schools, that's one way you could see overreach. but i don't think republicans are worried about overreaching now. i think they feel momentum on this parents issue in a big way. >> agreed. let's talk about glenn youngkin and how he governs. i don't know which way he's going to go, does he lean in on the base like ron desantis, or does he look in like larry hogan and say, oh, my state looks a little like that. maybe that's the model i should do. what do you expect and what model do you hope he follows? >> i hope it's a model that speaks to virginia. with delegates divided in the legislature, that will help it a little bit. >> keep it moderated? >> a little bit, yeah, slim for democrats but still won. one of the things i watched him in the final rally, in the final rally, auditing the dmc, auditing the dmv that seems like a mitt romney, massachusetts-type thing. again, i think it speaks to it a little bit when democrats made it about donald trump. >> with the dmv, if he's trying to audit 2022 elections, not such good politics. >> exactly. >> i'd danger dron desantis first year as governor and then there's ron desantis once covid hits. >> you sound like my mother. she was what happened to the preacher guy. >> yeah, desantis ran on this message, at least in the primary, he's reading "art of the deal" to a child. and now everglades and environment, and a lot of things were scratching their heads and his approval rating was high. it's only been since 2024 started to come on the menu that things started getting -- >> that's what i'm getting at here. i wouldn't be surprised if somebody whisper in the ear of a very wealthy governor and says you can't run for re-election. >> you say, exactly, remember chris christie in 2012? look what happened to him. >> yeah. >> to your point about desantis, i think that started to turn when joe biden and the national democratic party started picking fights with him. and it became everybody in their corners. what i'm going to watching right now, right across the river, does joe biden, the dnc pick fights with glenn youngkin try to make him partisan just by responding to that. >> very quickly, what state is on your board that you'll open up and say that's a state we can do? >> ooh, good question. what do you think? >> i think we have a better chance in nevada than yesterday. >> definitely out west, too. colorado is one that people ought not to ignore. matt, kristen, thank you both. coming up, the debate with democrats on the direction of the party is only going to get louder. next, i'll speak with the new marer of new york city eric adams who tells voters that it's the new face of the party. 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like i said, whether we're talking seattle, minneapolis, or new york city. >> one thing for sure is that we must move away from the title "identity politics." people say eric is a moderate or eric is this, that's not true. being progressive is being practical. and i think that is what we are losing. and we're losing really the tone. when i'm on the ground in the street of philadelphia, new york, it doesn't matter. families wouldn't their children to be educated, to be safe in their cities, and be gainfully employed so they can provide for those families. these everyday items and things are important. that's what i'm representing. when we're talking in some parts of the country of disbanding police departments while family members were listening to gunshots, not alarm clocks, that was out of step from what people wanted on the ground. and i knew that. >> so let's talk about what you want to get accomplished in new york city. after four years, what do you want residents of new york city to say about your tenure as mayor? >> that eric took a dysfunctional city that created its own crisis. our wounds are self-inflicted, because cities are made up of agencies. we forget that sometimes. but when those agencies are siloed and carrying out their own agenda and not the agenda of the city, you're going to continue to get a dysfunctional product no matter how much you pay in taxes. we have a $98 billion budget, yet 65% of black and brown children never reach proficiency in our department of education. 55% of the inmates at rikers island have a learning disability. we feed our crises. i want new yorkers to look at a city, four years later, where we have a dashboard system, where we monitor our city in real time, and agencies are aligned with one mission, not siloed, but one mission, to move new york city forward. >> one of your challenges is really getting new york city back into a pre-covid business and economic environment. how challenging do you think that's going to be and do you think this is going to be a tougher recovery than maybe folks in manhattan realize? >> it's going to be tough. we know that. but, you know, i'm a sports guy. the game was on the line in the mid-'80s when we were having 2,000 homicide a year, we put on bulletproof vests and turned around the city. we can do it again. new york is too expensive and bureaucratic to do business in. our agencies are focused on penalizing businesses and holding up businesses from opening. think about this for a moment. you build a hotel in new york, you're ready to bring in business travelers and hire people, and you will wait almost two years just to get a sprinkler inspection. or try opening a restaurant and wait two years for con edison to turn on your electricity. this condition happen in a city where we're trying to recover. the overwhelming number of our employees use the subway system every day. but it's preventing people from getting back in the office spaces. once we deal with the foundation of being safe, we can help those communities that historically we have not been able to turn around. >> as you know, some firefighters and cops have pushed back on the vaccine mandate. have you going to keep the vaccines in place? >> i made this clear on the campaign trail. during the time that this is a very dangerous encounter, when you have your firefighters, your emts, your police officers talking about the mandate that was put in place by the mayor, i don't want to weigh in and jeopardize the conversation they're having. i'm encouraging the mayor to sit down with the unions. they're the credible messengers for their membership. and we can come up with a way to resolve that. if he does not resolve this issue in january, i will sit down with the union members and we're going to come to a resolution that we all can live with. are there going to be a small percentage that no matter what we do, they're anti-vaxxers? that's understandable. but the overwhelming number of those heroes who were there during covid, are ready to come to the table and get this resolved. >> eric adams, the new mayor of new york city, look forward to visiting with you again. >> thank you, take care. thank you all for being with us this hour. we'll be back tomorrow with more "meet the press daily." get even more "meet the press" election analysis on the latest episode of the chuck toddcast. we'll give you a pretty good preview of 2022 as well. get it wherever you get your podcasts. nbc's coverage with joe fryer continues right now. only pay fo. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ people with moderate to severe psoriasis, are rethinking the choices they make like the splash they create the entrance they make, the surprises they initiate. otezla. it's a choice you can make. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines, and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. 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