pattern here as more of these companies take the spike in cases into their own hands, and the response which is fairly blunt, in the case of citigroup, if you are thinking of coming back to work as of january 14th and you're not vaccinated, don't worry about it. welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. we're going to explore the confusion over omicron. the good news is that it is not as dangerous. so while these spikes in cases look alarming, the fact of the matter is overall hospitalizations and certainly deaths are not nearly indicative of that spike as you might think. we're going to explore that in a lot more detail, the administration's handling of all of this. for that, we go to lucas tomlinson in washington. >> reporter: good morning, neil. some medical experts think the silver lining with omicron variant is an immunity boost. president biden insists things will get better despite a record-setting number of cases almost two years into the pandemic. >> no, i don't think covid is here to stay, but having covid in the environment and in the world is here to stay. covid as we're dealing with it now is not here to stay. the new normal doesn't have to be -- we have so many more tools we're developing and continue to develop that will contain covid and other strains of covid. >> reporter: earlier this week the u.s. recorded over one million new covid cases in a single day, neil, shattering the previous record. it comes amid a testing shortage. the true number of cases might be even higher. the white house has signed two contracts to boost the number of tests. the cdc director has come under increasing scrutiny with critics mocking the credibility of her agency. >> we're in an unprecedented time with the speed of omicron cases rising, and we are working really hard to get information to the american public. this is hard, and i am committed and continue to improve as we learn more about the science and to communicate that with all of you. >> reporter: back in june dr. anthony fauci made the following prediction about vaccine efficacy. quote: the fact that we have now about 50% of adults fully vaccinated and about 62% of adults having received at least one dose as a nation, i feel fairly certain you're not going to see the kind of surges we've seen in the past. while the vaccines has not stopped the spread, many health experts insist it has lower thed the -- lowered the severity of inflection next. neil? neil: thank you very much, lucas tom vinson. this supreme court mad -- tomlinson. the supreme court matter, we might get a decision rather soon. it all goes back to the administration's push to demand that workers get vaccinated. i'm oversimplifying it here, but alexandria huff has the latest on what are two different cases, right? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. the supreme court is weighing two vaccine mandate cases here. first is the one for employees and larger companies and the second applies to health care workers. justice sonia sotomayor pushed back on the word mandate. she along with justices breyer and kagan made it pretty clear they support the requirement. >> more and more people are getting sick every day. this is the policy that is most feared -- most geared to stopping all this. there's nothing else that will perform that function better than incentivizing people strongly to vaccinate themselves. >> reporter: chief justice john roberts highlighted how these cases will likely determine a level of power that the executive branch holds. >> i wonder if it's not fair for us to look at the court as a general exercise of power by the federal government and then ask the questions, well, why doesn't congress have a say in this, and why doesn't this be the primary respondent of the states. -- responsibility of the states. reporter: while conservative justices seem -- they seemed less so. >> all of which the ones i'm familiar affect employees when they are on the job but not when they are not on the job. and this affects employees all the time. if you're vaccinated while you're on the job, you're vaccinated when you're not on the job. >> reporter: the standout following yesterday's oral arguments was some inaccurate data cited by justice sotomayor. here's one moment. >> we have over 100,000 children, which we've never had before, in serious condition and many on ventilators. >> that's not true. we have not had 100,000 children in serious condition in u.s. hospitals. according to the cdc -- >> reporter: regardless of all of that, a fast track decision could come any day. neil? neil: wow, that is fast tracking. thank you very much for that, alexandria huff. a number of groups were filing with the supreme court to say this be an undue burden on them including the upgraded network. the ceo joining us now. alfredo, happy new year. your argument was this was an unfair and undue burden on your members, right in. >> yeah, it absolutely was. and, neil, it was a really, really good day, i think, for our small businesses and for america yesterday with. you know, we're proud of the work that we did at job creators, we were the first ones to file every step of the way defending our small businesses. and if all goes as we believe it's going to go, and i think the conservatives are going to see it our way as well, and we're going to see a very, very good outcome from all of this in, and our small businesses in this country are going to be defended once again. neil: how many of your members as it is have policies of their own on vaccinations? they just don't like the government strong arming, right? >> that's absolutely right. this is an issue of the mandate itself in terms of forcing their employees to do something they might not want to do. and, you know, we've always taken great exception, neil, as you know that the biden administration has portrayed this as a mandate for our largest employers in our country. this is employers that have 100 or more, and remember, the small business administration defines small businesses as less than 500. so that group between the 100-500 is what we were most concerned about. and in our own conversations in our own polling, we've shown that about 25-30% of the employees of small businesses are going to be impacted. and you could hear in the court that there was really no reference to the small business aspect, just the large businesses. they claim 1-3% will be impacted. again, on the small business perspective losing 25-30% of your labor force where people might go to another company that isn't required to do the mandate is potentially devastating for those businesses. neil: you mentioned larger businesses and the different impact for them. i'm going to be stressing this a little later in the show, but citigroup is forcing the issue. again, it has every right to do so. you're not vaccinated come january 14th and you work there, you don't have a job there. what do you think of thatsome. >> yeah, look, i mean, as far as we're concerned, you know, large corporations are have pretty much bent to everything the biden administration wants them to do. but, again, the concern is between the 100-500. when you think about a business that has,s let's say, 100 people or 200 people, let's say, and you lose 25 or 30% of your labor force, you potentially shut down. if citibank loses 1, 2, 3% of its labor force, it may cause some delays in operators and stuff like that, but it's not going to shut down citibank. so there's a huge, huge difference here between small businesses and large businesses and, kneel -- neil, that's something we're really going to try to take on and make note of that in terms of our legal system. we have to make sure that we look at the differences. neil, remember dodd-frank. remember what happened there? it was supposed to protect, you know, all the banks? guess what happened? our community banks, over 2,000 community banks went out of business, and so our small banks got smaller, and the larger banks got larger. neil: very good point, actually. be careful what you wish for. alfredo ortiz, very good seeing you. thank you, my friend. >> thank you, neil. neil: all right, we've been reporting on it, this edict now coming out of citigroup. it's not the only company that has such a policy that come january 14th if you have not had your shot, your prospect of holding on to your job is shot. again, this is just the latest firm to, you know, force such a policy. it will not be the last. charlie gasparino with more on that. charlie, this is sort of like an in your face approach in the financial community, but way beyond the financial community to force the issue, isn't it? >> it is. it's -- i'm not surprised, and i'll tell you why. when the biden administration first came out with its rules that they wanted government contractors, anybody that does business with the government to impose vax mandates on its employees, i spoke with a lot of people on the street, and they thought that was the sort of signal that they could impose very strict vax mandates on their employees. they thought that gave them, essentially, the legal cover to do so. all these companies did business with the federal government to one extent or another. they all want their people to be vaccinated except in rare cases of maybe religious issues or more like health issues. so they thought that was the way to go. it took a while for some to jump out of the box, and citigroup was the first one. neil: right. >> of all the firms, it's always been the most liberal, progressive of all the firms just if you know the history. bob rubin, the former clinton treasury secretary worked there, and many other people have been involved in democratic politics. somehow it's citigroup. it doesn't surprise me they're doing it from a mitt political standpoint and, obviously, after the biden administration did what it did, it doesn't surprise me as well. neil: much of the financial community has sort of done a 180 on workers returning in person, in fact, recommending that they stay onen line or doing -- online or doing jobs remotely for at least the next couple of weeks. what happened? >> it's a great question, neil. if you spoke with these guys, which i did, prior to the omicron variant, they were very much macho and gung ho. jamie dimon of jpmorgan, james gorman of morgan stanley, david solomon of goldman sachs, they wanted people back in the office. it makes sense. i just think they felt like they were in uncharted territory with this latest variant. highly transmissable, although it appears -- listen, i'm a survivor of it, and like i said, i worked out through it. you know, it appears to be a lot more milder but highly transmissable. so they were, like, you know, let's just play wait and see. we don't think weaver going to have to lock down -- we're going to have to lock down for the rest of the year, for the rest of 2022. maybe just january. they believe based on their modeling omicron is going to burn through the population through january given how transmissable it is, and then they'll go back to a more, you know, normal work routine. and we should point out they're not the only business that's doing this, you know? i'm working from home today, as you can tell. we don't have mandates here at fox, but people are encouraged to, if you can, work from home and do it. until we get through this. so it's, this is part of the new normal. the real question is this: do we, is this, like, is the new normal going to be something where we run and hide every time a new variant comes out, and business adapt to that if we, if that's the policy? manage i don't know. man, i don't know. some businesses can't. as alfredo said before, to be a phenomenal adviser to -- financial adviser to clients very effectively from your home office, but, you know, a lot of businesses you can't. you know, this is going to be an interesting year for the business community, as they say. neil: as long as you stay healthy and fit, young man, i have no doubt. charlie gasparino, thanks for helping us out on a saturday. the best business reporter on the plant, bar none. we have a lot more coming up including the former cdc director, dr. robert redfield. what he makes of omicron and its rapid emergence as one of the more contagious viruses we have ever seen. i say in that sense that it's a threat, but it's not nearly as severe. so could we all be overreacting? 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>> thanks for having me, neil. well, i've said this before, i think the schools are really the safest place for our k-12s to be. it's imperative to keep them open. there's no e wisconsin eleven city to -- equivalency to virtual learning. the public health interest of these kids is to be in face to face learning. i've mentioned before, many kids get their nutritional support in school, over 7 million kids get mental health services, obviously an important vehicle for understanding child abuse not to mention just the loneliness factor and the potential for depression, suicide, drug abuse. and probably the most important to me is just keeping kids on the educational curve. some of these kids now have fallen off their curve, special needs kids in particular, and some of them may not even get back in their lifetime. so i think the decision not to have public health schools opened is not based on public health, it's not based on science. as i said, the safest place for k-12s to be is in school. neil: do you think kids should get vaccination shots, doctor? >> i think it's, again -- i'm not a mandate person. i encourage them. i have 12 grandchildren, 9 of which are eligible for vaccine, and they've all been vaccinated, so i encourage family members to embrace the, what i call the greatest gift of science to modern medicine, that's advantage citynology. don't lee it on the shelf -- leave it on the shelf for yourself, your family and your neighbors. i encourage people to get vaccinated, but i also respect the parents' individual decision. i don't think we help get more people vaccinated by trying to blame them. this is not an epidemic of the unvaccinated. i'm very disappointed when i hear those statements. clearly, many, many people that are getting infected today have been what cdc calls fully vaccinated, and some of them have been boosted. and i think when you start blaming people or mandating people, you actually get them to dig in, into their resistance to embrace vaccination. so i think it's much better to engage in a dialogue and work with people to try to encourage them to accept the importance of vaccination for themself and their family. neil: doctor, what is fully vaccinated these days? moderna's ceo was out yesterday saying that a fourth covid shot might be needed. israel has implemented a fourth shot as well with strong recommendations that it will significantly build antibodies. what is your thinking on all of this? >> yeah, neil, i think, you know, i don't really like the term the way it's being used. i think cdc is making a mistake to hold on to the definition of fully vaccinated as the original series. i think really what we need to look to, are you add adequately protected from vaccine, and that's going to be dynamic. you know, clearly that means for omicron right now you need a third injection, and i believe shortly thereafter, three months or four months after the third injection, you are going to need a fourth injection. i think the israelis are ahead of the curve. they were ahead of the curve on the third injection. the reality is that these vaccines currently don't, you know, induce durable immunity. it's great immunity, these vaccines work, but it's just like your car, they eventually run out of gas, and you need to fill it up again. i suspect now that's going to be about every 3-4 months. the omicron variant is so much more effective, but it's also so much more able to escape either natural immunity or vaccine-induced immunity. if i take my blood and try to neutralize the delta virus and the omicron virus, my blood is 40-50 times less able to newt rammize -- neutralize the omicron than the delta. so that just tells us we're going to need a higher level of immunity to protect ourselves, and that's why you're seeing breakthroughs in people. remember, the omicron variant, it's got a transmission advantage in a very unique population. the population are the previously infected and the previously immunized individuals. and it has that advantage over delta because it can escape the vaccine-induced or the natural immunity that's induced by infection to a much higher degree than delta. neil: dr. redfield, thank you very much. calming presence, sir, we appreciate that. we'll have a lot more after this >> thanks, neil. you'll find some of the peace-of-mind you want. at prices you'll really want. start the year fresh at lowe's. shop lowe's store & save event now in-store and online. mission control, we are go for launch. um, she's eating the rocket. ♪♪ lunchables! built to be eaten. ♪ neil: all right. i want you to think fast. what did ronald reagan, jimmy carter have in common? different numbers that might have given you the idea there would be a different president. it was the case with jimmy carter on though his poll numbers were stronger, certainly not the case with ronald reagan who went on to win re-election in a landslide, so are republicans chomping at the bit and maybe getting ahead of themselves thinking that joe biden is finished? caylee joins us now, i know we tend to live in the moment and the poll numbers certainly do not look good for joe biden, but i was stunned to see some of his predecessors after a their first year, some who had, you know, very big polling problems of their own and others like carter who were doing very, very well, of course, it didn't really matter because he went down in a landslide defeat a few years later. but what are you to read into the numbers that we have thus far on joe biden? >> well, there's always a chance that biden could turn things around, right in that's never going to necessarily go away. but a lot of this is going to depend on on the 2022 midterms and on whether republicans do make as many gains as they're prohibiting right now. if they take -- predicting right now. if they take back both chambers of congress, biden's hope of getting anything done legislatively disappears. and then what is he going to have to show to voters? it's going to be really challenging to hold on to democratic gains that they made in 2020 especially if he hopes to get anything done over the next three years. neil: kaylee, i can remember when bill clinton's party was shellackedded in the '94 midterms, the beginning of the newt gingrich revolution, takeover of the house. he famously said the era of big government is over. so he just didn't pivot, he began to change the parade and try to lead it. i don't know if we would see something like that out of a joe biden. what do you think? >> right now he does need to, he does need to change trajectory. he would be smart to do so because he's trying to accomplish something that would be totally unprecedented for a president with as small minorities as he has in congress right now. he's trying to pass a legislative agenda similar to one that fdr passed with the new deal, right? and he just does not have the support in congress for that. so if he were to turn around and decide to actually pursue a more moderate agenda, which is what he promised to do on the campaign trail, there is a very good chance that he might see bipartisan success in both the house and the senate, and then he would have future success in the polls. neil: do you think he would moderate his position? progressives in the party have not allowed him to do that. would they do so out of desperation to say, all right, we can't lose the whole thing? >> i certainly think he would lose support on progressives who are not going to bend on that at all, none whatsoever. but the question is does he want to see at least some success as an administration or does he want to continue -- who have completely unrealistic approaches to politics and who are trying to pass policies that the vast majority of americans do not support. neil: all right. kaylee, thank you, very good seeing you again. a reminder, it depends on what you do in the face of something like this, but we do remember the time whatever you make of poll numbers, there was a time when hillary clinton couldn't lose until she did, but donald trump couldn't win until he did. and back and forth throughout american history. remember, polls are snapshots in time. one snap, then shot. when we're back, the irs looking at payments as little as $600. why? ♪ i always feel like somebody's watching me, and i have no privacy. ♪ i always feel like somebody's watching me ♪♪ ♪ deposit, plan and pay with easy tools from chase. simplicity feels good. chase. make more of what's yours. ♪ neil: you ever make a payment of $600 or better or get a payment venmoed to you for $600 or better? well, the irs wants to know about that. the only question is why it wants to know about that. hillary vaughn following the developments on capitol hill. hillary. >> reporter: neil, the idea behind this new rule is to catch people cheating on their taxes, making sure people are paying taxes on the income that they're making. but it doesn't put a bull's eye on billionaires. instead, it's a burden on small businesses. people that get paid by their customers and clients for goods and services through third party apps like zelle, paypal and venmo. the new rule now says transactions in those apps over $60 for goods and services -- $600 now have to be reported to the irs. this hits, say, hairstylists, housekeepers, those in the gig economy, small shops at trade shows. the national federation of independent business telling me in a statement, this rule when it was passed if march was not really vetted. quote: this requirement, which was added late to the american rescue plan act without debate, is yet another burden that a will occur while small businesses are facing numerous challenges such as rising inflation, work force shortages. congress should focus on finding ways to help main street succeed instead of saddling them with these confusing requirements. this only applies to taxable income, not money that you're sending peer-to-peer that you may get from friends or family. but some people say this still exposes people to more irs intrusion. >> what if i send money through zelle to my child at school? i'm now going to have to prove that that wasn't payment for some kind of services with a broad stroke. you can catch up a lot of people doing things that have nothing to do with taxes. >> reporter: neil, technically this is not a new tax, but if you're reporting income that a you didn't previously report -- through these apps, you could end up paying more in taxes, and it's one more thing that people need to worry about at tax time. neil? neil: thank you, hillary, very much. it is a little weird. two numbers guys looking at the numbers behind it, jonas and david ban seven. david, this just seems like a trojan horse way to get some money. i could be wrong, what do you think? >> i think it may be worse than that. not just to get money, but information. obviously, the reporting is exactly right. nobody in their right mind thinks the irs is going to capture meaningful revenue by looking at what babysitters get paid and what college kids send to their buddies for beer money. i mean, this is absurd. [laughter] the way to move the needle is a much larger measure. and, of course, this does, as senator paul said, get away from a sort of innocent until proven guilty. it starts requiring people to validate things that are totally outside of the irs' purview. neil: you know, jonas, in a weird way it's sort of like the alternative minimum tax. i know a night and day comparison, but that sort of started to seek out the super rich who were not paying taxes, and it since grew to about half of all taxpayers, right? i don't know what it is now. what do you think of that? >> it's a good analogy because of inflation. there are a lot of thresholds that the irs doesn't adjust for inflation. the $600 number keeps coming up, they use that for a lot of thresholds, like 1099. that used to be good money. today it's a pizza under the new inflation. [laughter] actually, the obama net investment income, the 3.8% you have to pay, that has a $250,000 threshold. that's not inflation adjusted either. that's not going to be a lot of money the way things are going right now. that all said, getting back to this issue, they already were doing this for $20,000 transactions, and it's a 1099 pay form. it's not like they're going to go through all the pizza payment parties unless those add up to over $60. now -- $600. now, there are bad actors out there who are probably using 20 different accounts and booking $18,000 in revenue, and for all practical purposes, it was cash. it's called a cashout. they were not booking this as income. however, to capture those people and bring it down to $600 like they do with credit card transactions means in this irs collection it's going to bring in hundreds of thousands of people. i assure you as an investment adviser, most people selling $500 in junk pay $700 to make that $500. it's a lot of paperwork that isn't going to lead to a lot of results to get in a world where there's a guy with a $5 billion roth irs. that's where the real tax money is. this is going to crypt, unfortunately, a lot of work for a lot of people who aren't the person who has 20 different zellle accounts and not paying taxes on it. neil: right. to your point, there is a big dumps between $20,000 and $600. but, david, it has already prompted me to change my mind about sending my son money at school, at college. i said, you're on your own, pal. and i'm wondering if people are going to be very leer arely now of the -- leery of the typical transactions they've had because the irs might be looking over their shoulder? >> i think there is a school of thought there that some people have, a greater paranoia, and a lot of it's justified. not because there will be scrutiny or people really getting upset about sending your kid money in college, but because there's no credibility. the public trust is not there. it goes back to a lot of the things with lois lerner and the obama administration. nobody believes the irs is apolitical. nobody should believe that. but i agree that in this particular case the real issue is cost benefits trade on. whatever they have to do by way of time, effort ors -- effort, resources, cost, if they find a few bad actors which i'm very skeptical that there's that many, but what they do collect in additional revenue to treasury is going to be meaningfully less than what it costs to get it. what business would ever make that decision? so, yeah, privacy concerns, constitutional concerns, public trust all to end up losing money in the endeavor. neil: you do have to wonder where all this is going. you know, the build back better and some of the means by which we're supposed to pay for that, it might never come to pass, but this thing is alive and well, jonas. there's a revenue raiser here, we just don't know to what degree, right? >> yeah. and there's a long history of trying to add something to bring in money when you're doing spending. in fact, a very similar thing was done in 2008 under bush that added also to the housing bailout which was very costly which was the same thing for credit card transactions through paypal. and the idea is, oh, we're going to pay for some of this with extra money from tax cheats, however, it still requires i.t. departments, cay -- databasing, this is no stuff that's -- staff that's going to use this to collect untold millions. to be honest, you really didn't have 500 employees and $20 million in revenues like you claimed to have. hay don't even have that data organized in a way to somehow catch that, so i highly doubt a lot of $p 0 -- $700 transactions are going to lead to a wealth of collection. ultimately, all this money's going to lead to higher taxes because these little methods are not going to bring in enough. if they want to capture small transactions, we're going to need a sales tack, like a vat. this is never going to do it. the few bad actors are not going to cover the costs of the thousands of small businesses that are not that profitable to start with. neil: all right. all of this as the economy, you know, hiccups along here, and that's a point i want to raise with you later in the show, guys, what you make of that latest employment report and the backdrop of this which is an economy that's still strong, but it's not generating nearly the number of jobs that we thought. i look forward to chatting about all of that. in the meantime, wrapping up the consumer electronics show in las vegas, some big names did not show up like amazon and apple and a host of others, but some up and coming names did that might very well be the next amazon and apple and companies like that. after this. ♪ ♪ i always dreamed of having kids of my own. ♪ ♪ now i'm ready for someone to call me mom. at northwestern mutual, our version of financial planning helps you live your dreams today. ready to turn your dreams into plans at nand your actionsal, ourinto achievements?ial explore over 75 programs and four-week classes at national university. your future starts today at nu.edu. ♪ neil: all right, they call it the convention of the cool gadgets or what will be hot or cool in the year to come. the much-talked-about consumer electronics show. some big players didn't show up because of omicron concerns, but enough did that it generated a good amount of buzz. kelly o'grady with the latest. >> reporter: hi, neil. well, that is a wrap on ces 2022. you know, a number of the big names pulled out, but we were here to find that next big name, you know, who's going to be the next google. and ces, it's not about the amazons and the facebooks, it's really about highlighting thoselesser known -- those lesser known companies. so i want to take you through some of the coolest things i saw this week. you've heard of nascar racing, well, now it's drone racing. i notice, pretty -- i know, pretty crazy, right? lots of crashes, unlike other sports, the fan base shows up primarily for the love of technology. i took my first ride in a driverless vehicle. that one's ready to hit the road right now. bob cot also -- bobcat showcased an all-electric tractor that can be controlled from your phone and a robotic drum set which was a huge highlight for the crowd. imagine that playing at your next party. and finally, the soul system shared their virtual twin tech with different she scenarios showcasing how tech is saving lives. and beyond the latest ininnovations, companies also shared how important ces to the community. >> all of our customers are here, they're working on the next generation technologies, and it's important that a we come together and fox on what's important in -- and focus on what's important in the future. lots of cool tech on display. i wish you could have been here, neil. certainly, the future is bright for tech and consumers over the next few years. back to you. neil: thank you very much, kelly o'grady. well, to be a chicken wing seller these days, you have to look at higher costs, and you have to look at alternatives beyond just the wings. meet the guy who did. after this. ♪ and a little bit of chicken fried -- ♪ cold beer on friday nights. ♪ a pair of jeans that fit just right and the radio on ♪♪ ♪ and savings like that follow you everywhere. ♪ now, save more with allstate. ♪ because better protection costs a whole lot less. you're in good hands with allstate. call a local agent or 1-888-allstate for a quote today. ♪ neil: they say if life gives you lemons, make lemonade. the same thing applies if your business is chicken wings and they're getting pricey, look at the rest of the chicken. that's exactly what my next guest did, the ceo of and founder of wing it. not just wings. matt, good to have you. >> hey, neil, thanks. thanks for giving me an opportunity to talk a little bit about the chicken challenges we're facing. neil: yeah. i certainly was surprised to hear how much wing prices have gone up and all, but you've expanded now to the rest of builder. tell us what you did. >> yeah. so the first thing we did was we identified the controllables and the uncontrollables in the situation. in this situation the major uncontrollable was the cost we're paying for chicken. so the controllable in the situation situation is the diversify decision a -- diversification of our menu and purchasing strategy. we're a chicken wing concept, so when you think about the anatomy of the bird, the wing really only makes up 10% of that bird which leaves about 90% of the bird that the producers have to find a home for. so traditionally, when wing prices are at all-time highs, tender and breast meat would be lower because they're looking for a home for it, but this year's been a little bit strange. all white meat consistents are up. so what we went to was our test kitchen, we developed a thigh wing product. neil: that's wild. you know, it's sort of the opposite of what happened in the early days when chicken wings were coming on big when i was in college. they used to throw those things out. and, now, of course, they became the primary focus. and now you're looking agent the rest of the chicken, maybe back to where we were then. what are your cus customers saying? >> first of all, you're right, neil. we used to go to 10 cent wing night when i was in college, so if you find 10 cent wing night, give me a call. i'll meet you there. [laughter] neil: these wings, the thighs and all, they're generally a darker, juicier kind of meat. do you serve them the same way? how do you do that? >> yeah. so when you're grilling in the summer, most people opt for the thigh. it's a juicier, more tenner cut of meat. but what a lot of people don't think of is the thigh in alternate situations, and one of that is a replacement for a traditional bone-in wing. it helps our purchasing strategy so that we can do go to our distributers and negotiate a whole bird program. they don't want to sell you just the wing, so it's not profitable for them, it's not profitable for you. they want to sell you the entire bird. so we went out and said let's put together a program where we're buying the breast, the tender, the nigh, and that makes it better for all of our franchisees. neil: yeah, i would think it would. i bet your customers are liking some of the alternatives. >> yeah. and one of our major competitors, wingstop, they did us a huge favor late last year, they launched their thighstop, and once they started a national marketing campaign, they did all the heavy lifting for us because it's an awareness issue. neil: right. >> we know that the product's good, we just need to create awareness, and wingstop helped us by doing a national marketing campaign. neil: i'm curious how your customers did respond to the hike in chicken wings. you know, you can only, you know, absorb so much. you pass along some of those costs, but if they're loyal, obviously, they're still eating your goodies up. what has been the impact on business? >> you know what? people just love chicken wings. we've raised prices, as have all of our competitors, and, i mean, we felt like the chicken wings are becoming the caviar of the bird, and customers haven't complained. they understand. you know, inflation is rampant across the economy, so they're not as sensitive as they were in past years where inflation was a little bit lower, they might be a little bit more sensitive to us raising our prices, but consumers have actually been pretty understanding about it. neil: yeah, it sounds like they have been. matt, it's a genius idea, and i'm looking at some of these pictures, you can get different flavors on different parts of the chicken, i think you've found a way to do this right. so keep us posted. it's a brilliant move. matt es -- ensero, ceo. >> thank you, neil. neil: in the meantime here, you heard about the latest jobs report. it was disappointed, only 199,000 jobs created. yet another month that was a fraction of what the experts thought. but what got me on the report wasn't so much that number, but the backdrop of millions of americans just up and quitting their jobs. do you know we have close to 12 million jobs that go begging in this country? so it got me thinking, it happens sometimes, where are all the workers? where are they? after this. ♪ ♪ ♪ feel stuck with credit card debt? ♪ move your high-interest debt to a sofi personal loan. earn $10 just for viewing your rate — and get your money right. ♪ hello, for the last few years, i've been a little obsessed and get your money right. with chasing the big idaho potato truck. but it's not like that's my only interest. i also love cooking with heart-healthy, idaho potatoes. always look for the grown in idaho seal. ... >> you wonder where the workers are? i say that because in the latest jobs period we were expecting more jobs, only got 199,000 and six straight months it's been less than the estimate out there. that kind of stuff happens, but look at the number on the far right or those listening on radio, four and a half million, already quit the work force in the latest month. four and a half million and nothing is bringing them back. where are they going? it's a conundrum for the white house. jacqui heinrich is here with more. jacqui: good morning, neil, happy saturday. coronavirus muddled another jobs report. disease's weakest, 199,000, far short of the 400,000 forecasters expected and worse yet, the data was collected ahead of the omicron wave. meaning it could get even worse when we see the revision in a month and that's spooking economists. the president glossed over the bad, turning instead to the good, unemployment falling to 3.9%. >> the sharpest one-year drop in unemployment in the united states history. and we have added 6.4 million new jobs since january of last year. in one year. and that's one of the most-- that's the most jobs in any calendar year by any president in history. >> the president credited his agenda for getting america back on his feet and tried to blunt republican criticism. >> now, i hear republicans say today that my talking about the strong record shows that i don't understand, i don't understand. a lot of people are still suffering, they say. well, they are. or that i'm not focused on inflation. malarky. they want to talk down the recovery because they voted down the legislation that happened. >> this has been a tough week for the administration, with record breaking surge of covid cases and shortage of tests and muddled guidance from the c.d.c. at a time when credibility is at a premium. former advisors in a series of open -- op-ed and his administration does not want to get caught flat-footed again. officials now at health and human services in the office of management and budget are reportedly calculating how much future funding might be needed for therapeutics and distribution although the white house is not seeking more money from congress, at least right now, neil. neil: jacqui, do you ever take a day off? >> i want to, (laughter) >> thinking about that, when is the last day. jacqui: thank you. neil: very very much for that, jacqui heinrich. and the white house says there are jobs going begging, 11, 12 million of them and the people aren't taking up on it. so what is that about? let's go to jonas max ferris and kristin, the democratic strategist. david, what is going on there? that just seems counter intuitive or maybe i could see a lot of people who shored up finances and got in better shape during the pandemic, they're maybe reassessing things, i get that, but it can't account for month in, month out people dropping out of the work force. >> no, it can't and doesn't. this is a cultural issue even more than economic. i know that some people want to believe that people's robinhood accounts and crypto accounts have all of a sudden enabled them to add 30 years to their retirement capacity, but that isn't really the issue here. we are moving away from being a work-based society and it's primarily at the very young end and older end. it's not so much there in the age 30 through 55 demographic. mostly the labor participation force erosion since covid is coming in the same area where it did after the last financial crisis, and that's people into their late 50's and 60's, and then at the younger end and in both cases, i think it's a cultural epidemic, not merely, neil, for the economic consequences which are severe, which do create labor shortage, which exacerbate the labor shortage and led the president president of the united states to say incredibly stupid things, but it's morally, spiritually, existentially for people not working and that purpose and joy that comes from being engaged in the work force. that's my concern. neil: kristin, what do you think is going on here? and does the administration appreciate the enormity of this? >> of course they do. i think, you know, it's really interesting to see -- like i was reading like 7% of restaurant and bar workers changed or quit their jobs in november and are looking for new jobs. i'm a small business owner, two small businesses and i've seen an enormous change by covid, what are people looking for? people are changing and looking for more flexibility. looking to work from home. i think there are a lot of different reasons for this and these are just challenges that at the federal level, it's hard to wrap your hands around. some is people looking for different opportunities, they have families, single mothers want to be able to work from home and then, you know, how do you deal with that at the federal level? thing these are all questions and culturally, i agree, it's just a total change. i don't think it's all bad, but it's something that we've got to grapple with as business owners and the administration. neil: you know what's weird about it, jonas? i don't have all the data, but in a good many jobs, they didn't have other opportunities to go to, they just up and left what they had. now, again, they could all be independently wealthy like david or they could just be reassessing their life. i don't want to get to philosophically deep on this, but there's something going on that goes beyond the obvious. what is it. >> yeah, i don't think it's more flexibility at work. they've been wearing sweat pants at home for two years, how much more flexible are you going to get as an employer? i think part of what it is, there hasn't been a lot of attention on the size of the start-up bubble that's in the economy because of covid, it's been mopping up the news cycle. it's epically larger than the late '90s. it's crypto, but financing for startups and changing money in regulation, raise it yourself. and there are options worth a fortune on paper or until a few weeks ago and that's sucking so many into wanting to do a start-up from their own house and that economy has been sinking, actually, in recent months, the profitless tech companies and hasn't caught up in the numbers yet. if it continues, i think you're going to see the 3.9% economy and people with riches higher than what your employer will offer you, higher wages and trying to get with bonuses. i think it's underreported, people are focusing on crypto miners, but it's a massive start-up bubble. neil: i wonder how long it's going to last? >> i think there will be some economic catalyst that helps to bring it to an end and then a good portion of it could play out for a long time and what i mean by that, those people that are going to need time to realize that crypto mining is not going to become their career and life purpose and he's right, that's on the younger end. i don't think there's 61 year olds or 58-year-olds that are able-bodied and planned to keep working and now left the work force, i don't think they're crypto mining and start ago new dot-com or what have you. some of them, maybe they get bored and just decide this whole thing wasn't meant to be the way they planned. what i'm getting at, it's not going to be in the data and it certainly isn't a federal problem, it's a cultural issue and we should be encouraging the idea that going to work brings more than a paycheck, that it brings purpose and activity. neil: and again, we're making the assumption that they're doing nothing besides watching tv, which is fine if you're watching fox news or fox business. i don't think that's happening. kristen, how the president addressed the economy and talked up the unemployment rate 3.9%, i get that, but he months be disappointed month in and month out, six straight months underestimates for jobs growth and continues unabated. what do you think? >> i don't know why, you know, pointing out the unemployment rate dropping 3.9% is glossing over anything. you know, the president -- we're going through another resurgence of covid, there's so much going on in the economy and we had a robust conversation about the work force and employment and why people are and aren't, and there are interesting things that the panelists all just said. so i think that the president is, you know, working with very tight margins in the house and senate and trying to figure out the best ways to get people back to work and doing the best that he can. >> we shall see. guys, i want to thank you all very, very much. it's a fascinating phenomena. i can't put my finger on it, but it keeps happening, more people quitting the work force. we'll keep an eye on it. have a great weekend and happy new year to all of you. in the meantime, businesses are still being impacted by various mask requirements and other vaccine requirements and people just very concerned about going out at all, even in light of these spikes in omicron cases. and some of them are looking for a little bit of help from washington, some might get it. don't know necessarily if this guy is seeking that help, but he's certainly concerned about things, as the owner of pizza in chicago, it's good to have you. they're kicking around as you probably heard more relief for businesses like your own impacted by these on again/off again shutdowns. would you welcome that? >> i don't welcome a shutdown, no. i welcome, you know, whatever we can get to make people feel safe and come in and do it. i don't like to have to cut hours. i don't like to have to put people out of work. i want to be able to offer jobs to everybody to have a place for people to get out and come eat with us, in a safe environment, and you know, the last thing i want to do is hurt anybody's financial situation at home, so if i could get 25% or 50%, whatever it is to help those people out, then i think we should do that. neil: for you, and your customers with these various vaccine requirements and everything else, how have they adjusted to that? are they okay with that? >> so far, it's been week one. we were quite concerned leading up to the vaccine card mandates, coupled with the masks. the masks gave us more trouble than the vaccine cards did, actually. very oddly enough. neil: really. >> yeah, i know. everybody that comes in now is wearing masks and i need your i.d., i need your card, they whip it out, digital or physical. it all works well. and even the ones that get turned away, whether they were visiting and didn't know, are not giving my staff a hard time. we are feeling a crunch, obviously, and a dip in business, coupled with the fact that it's january and it usually dips out for most restaurants, around this time anyway, so, it's hard to really gauge for us how much of it is hurting, and whether it would be the same if it was just the masked mandates or if it was masks and n vaccine card and for now, going through the last five days, i'm fairly pleased. you know, we've had some business, i've had to cut some shifts. that's hard for my staff, i don't like to do that because there's not enough people to support them coming in, but the customers have been great. i've got to applaud them. i don't know what changed or why, the people that come in are prepared. the ones that are in here on their way out are very thankful and appreciative, more so than they have been in months. they were always happy to come in and feel safe, but there's like a new level and i don't understand exactly what it is. i'm not going to complain about it, but we'll hope that it continues and you know, whatever they're doing to try to help people get out more we'll take it. neil: well, i think they're drawn to your pizza, that's what's doing it and keep making pizza like you do, you'll do fine, sean. >> well, we have very loyal customers, and i applaud that. neil: i understand for good reason. thank you, the pequod's pizza owner in chicago. we have more coming up the latest from the border. let's just say it's not getting better after this. ecause of t. 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>> yes, neil, this is three months before his reelection, the french president macron. and he's angering among the public who are not vaccinated. there's a lot of vaccination in france, 70 to 80% of the population. he's doing what deblasio did, squeezing them out of the events. and i don't think that it will fly in the united states if president biden decides this is the way he should go. neil: the supreme court is taking up this issue of vaccine mandates and i don't want to go back and forth on that, but it might be too late. we're at the point, 200 million americans have gotten at least one shot, i think 60-some odd percent, 3% are in that position. so, i'm wondering if all of that might be a moot point. what do you think? >> i think that a mandate, a national mandate would be a mistake. america is based on freedom of what you want to do with your own body. i told you many times before, as well as others, that i think that certain professions should be mandated to be vaccinated such as doctors, nurses, police, fire, e.m.s. and maybe school teachers for sure, but that's about where the mandates should stop. if you start doing that to the general public, as i see with my patients, they get extremely angry and very, very agitated when you tell them that they must get the boosters, they must get vaccinated and so on, although it's a good public health measure. neil: you know, already we've had four million cases largely omicron in the past week, doctor, versus four million in the first six months of the pandemic. what do you make of that? >> we're going to have overwhelming infection. it's not a question of whether, but a question of when. i suspect everyone in the country will eventually be infected. the good news is, neil, that this may provide us with the immunity, the herd immunity that we've been waiting for simply because you either get infected or vaccinated. if your immune system then responds to this coronavirus, the only thing that would knock us out of the box would be a new variants and as you know, the new variants occur in those who are unvaccinated so that's troublesome and it's around the world not just here in the united states. neil: what do you make of this other variant, ihu, i hope i'm referring to it correctly, doctor, it's been raising some concern. should we worry about it? >> until the data come in we shouldn't worry about it. that's been described by a french genomics institute which ihu is all about, from a guy that came from cameroon. in various parts of africa, the rates of vaccination exceedingly low, sometimes less than 10% of the population, that's where these variants are popping up. they're popping up because some of these people who are immunosuppressed hang onto virus for months and mutation can occurment i wouldn't lose sleep, i would be talking, the lamba, the mu, and omicron for many months and only omicron has spread like wildfire through the world and will provide us with significant immunity and not bad, clinical symptoms? >> when we were last talking, doctor, you talked about the virus will be here forever. and the president says he doesn't think that covid is here to stay. are you right? >> i think covid is here to stay just like influenza is here to stay. and i think when the pandemic goes away we will have an endemic virus and maybe people will be creative and have a vaccine for the flu and the coronavirus every year or maybe every other year depending how the scientists feel about its endemic nature and how bad it proceeds. probably like the flu every season. neil: dr. lahita, you've been such a constant force through the craziness and speak for certainly everybody here, we appreciate that. continue keeping us calm, doctor, thank you. >> thanks, neil. neil: dr. bob lahita. i don't know if you've been following what's going on in new york. we have a new mayor and also a new manhattan district attorney and he announced that he won't prosecute certain crimes and the police chief in new york blasted that d.a. for this lenient agenda. i mean, it's crazy. we'll fill you in on it after this. ♪ ♪ i was not expecting to learn about my heart health from my genetic reports. but now that i have this info it feels like i can take even more control of my health. it's the most meaningful way to start the new year. now just $129. ♪ ♪ >> you know, a lot of you probably heard about our new mayor in new york city, a 20-year police veteran taken the helm, and we have a new district attorney talking about cutting back on arrests and going after those, or what he says are relatively minor offenses, and that's got the police chief in the city quite angry. alexis mcadams has been following this and joins us now. >> thank you, we just left where d.a. bragg was speaking in harlem and he grew up and he knows a lot of people including reverend al sharpton. he says he invited d.a. bragg to address the controversy surrounding him since he took office just the other day and some of the comments that he said on stage, that guns are his top priority instead of going after criminals, but he says he does need to clear up some of the misunderstanding surrounding this. let's get to it. this is the video from inside. and addressing people from the house of justice. outlining controversial plans he believes will make the criminal justice system more fair. last week sending out a memo, you can see it here. outlining the changes, including no longer prosecuting past offenses, charge of resisting aware. subway, beatings and sex work. and charging from stealing from stores and home storage areas and also some of the drug dealing. >> we know our first civil right is to walk safely to our corner store. but we also know that that safety has got to be based in our community and fairness and it cannot be driven solely by incarceration. we need to address our neighborhoods and safety concerns ap that's what we've set out to do. >> and he says that's what he ran on and he said he put that in print so he doesn't know why there's confusion right now in manhattan. now, on friday, n.y.p.d.'s new commissioner reportedly sent an e-mail to officers expressing concerns over their safety over the changes. back here live. we tried to talk to d.a. bragg and he wasn't able to give us comments just what was on stage and he's talking about the criticism from the commissioner, he's had productive discussions with the commissioner and hopes to clear up misunderstandings. it's a developing story and new criticism rolling in minute by minute so probably will be getting more comments from him throughout the day. neil: yeah, everyone is not quite on the same page, alexis. and the retired n.y.p.d. lieutenant, very brave guy, you do not want to mess with joe. i appreciate him being remote because if you ask him a nasty question he'll club you. joe, good to see you. i'm kidding, i think. it's interesting now, the new police chief in new york, the police commissioner has expressed what you call severe dissatisfaction with the policies of this new manhattan district attorney that don't even seem to jibe with what the mayor wants? >> i agree wholeheartedly and with mayor adams. what you have is a d.a. abusing his power, saying he's going to pick and choose what crimes he wants to enforce and that's going to be cause a backlog when the police make arrests and he'll say don't bother making these arrests, i'm going to decline prosecution. you have a burglary or recidivist bragging to the post saying i'm so glad there's bail reform because i go out and commit crimes and don't have to worry about it. what it's doing, round robin once again driving businesses out of new york. it's the community-based businesses that the d.a. is talking about getting hurt. when i says i'm going to focus on this and this and only this, you get-- we are a city of recidivists, all right? once the people are in custody you do want to have the opportunity to say do they have warrants? do they have this? what other crimes? they've done this to the story owners time and time again, when does it stop if this man refuses to prosecute? i agree with the new police commissioner and i back her up 1 is -- 100% the safety of the cops is paramount as the community. neil: why don't we compare how similar efforts fared out west in california, for example, 1,000, $2,000 worth of goods you can steal and they won't prosecute you. so they stole up to $1,000 or $2,000 and then they'd move on to the next. so i'm wondering, moving the target doesn't change the target, right? >> absolutely it doesn't. when you lie in bed with the reverend al sharpton, you go by his whims. all right, so this is why they had the need to have a press conference today to say this is what he really meant. what it boils down to, he needs to prosecute the crimes for the recidivists. he has to get these guys off the street and you're right, neil, you and i have had this discussion, people standing there with calculators, all right, you've got to stop, you're at the threshold. that's happening in new york as well. they know what they can get away with and the petty crimes. it's the quality of life that affects new york the greatest. when you start building on that and the broken window theory again, do it and fine tune it, but quality of life crimes in new york is so essential right now, with the drugs on the street, with the drug addicts shooting up in public view, and everything that's going on. you want to do something with the turnstile jumpers, fine, give them the cards and put their names in the system. they won't put their names in the system because they're in the system and they'll jump the turnstile and get away with it. there's a round robin effect all the time that we need to address and the d.a. should get on board with the new commissioner and with the new mayor and get in tune with them to fight the crime that has to be fought. you need to get the city back because we're still losing it. neil: you're quite right. i see it every day. i just worry though, they're not in sync here and i don't see them getting close to in sync here so i don't know. we'll see, joe cardinale thank you very much. happy new year. >> same to you, neil. anytime. neil: in the meantime, we're following the nation's weather the first time we've got at least east coast hit with some serious snow? 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>> you know, it's funny, neil, because for years we were always told, oh, money doesn't matter. just be a nice person, how have good personality and now we find out that was a lie and we all knew that was a lie. [laughter] >> money in the end rules all. and i'm a little more of a serious note here, especially with millennials, you look at the last two years, i mean, they've been just absolutely chaotic and millennials are dating and trying to be more serious and they'll think about marriage and seeing their friends becoming married and you look around and it's hard to set goals these days. the las two years every couple months, things turned around, they'll get better, they'll get better. they haven't. i completely understand now, people admitting finding someone who has financial stability, or sustainable life style or competent with their money that can go a long way, with a world that's in chaos, having something sustainable like finances, doesn't hurt. it's not bad. neil: what if you're hideously ugly though? is there a trade-off with the money smarts? >> i mean, neil, there's a lot of rich millionaires and billionaires out there that are disgusting and gross looking. let's be honest. [laughter] >> the answer is, it's amazing what money can do. neil: it's worked for them. >> it's worked, absolutely worked for them, but you know, also, neil, i think it's interesting for millennials, we're the-- you know i'm the resident millennial here at fox and we are the social media generation and when we were in middle school they started with american online. in high school, it was the yahoo! craze and now on tik tok and we're that social media generation that constantly compares ourselves to everybody else on social media. during the pandemic when you saw some of your friends had the ability to travel, leave town or control their own life style. that came down to having money and money is freedom and that's what we saw and people had the ability to get away because of money, which is freedom, bottom line. neil: when the day comes you get married and you know you're pretty fancy now and living life the way you want to live it and i admire that. is this a quality you want to look at in the quality of someone you want to spend the rest of your life. >> i'm not going to lie, finances matter, but are the end-all? absolutely not. there are a lot of people who have money and seen it go away and a ton of money and guess what? they're still not happy. we all know those people as well. i think you have to be kind of, not to get all emotional or what not, just be satisfied with yourself and be happy. as long as you're happy and with someone that respect you the way you are, that matters, but it doesn't hurt to be able to take them on expensive dates and buy them nice gifts so money does help a little bit for sure. neil: so you would upgrade from the wendy's meal out and all that. taco bell. i read something a little more into this, gunz, it wasn't whether you were good with money, as much as are you okay handling bills, are you okay keeping track of money going in and out was my interpretation not what was in the survey, and i think a lot of times it's one or the other of couples that handle that sort of thing, but i think both should have a prominent role in it. what do you think of that? >> no, i mean, you're right there because you know, you don't want to be hiding something from your significant other, which a lot of people do, or lie about things, that you have. millennials, their student debt is huge and credit card debt and trying to figure out, you know, everything's becoming more expensive these days. if you're going to be with somebody else, you've both got to be able to handle the situation and you know, make sure that you don't go into more debt, you know, with each other. and it's just about being able to work through it together in the end. and you know, you don't want to lie to your significant other, especially with money because if there's one thing that we all know, money and talking about finances and dealing with money can be detrimental. that can be a deal breaker for sure because a lot of people fight over it. neil: i think you would be hiding a lot from a prospective. they wouldn't know what's going on. no idea. >> i'm a man of mystery. gunz is a man of mystery. neil: our james bond. thank you very, very much. mike gunzleman, we call him gunz. neil: all right. have a good weekend. your plain aspirin could be hurting your stomach. vazalore... is the first liquid-filled aspirin capsule clinically shown to cause fewer ulcers than plain aspirin. try new vazalore. aspirin made amazing! one of my favorite supplements is qunol turmeric. turmeric helps with healthy joints and inflammation support. unlike regular turmeric supplements qunol's superior absorption helps me get the full benefits of turmeric. the brand i trust is qunol. >> president biden's vaccine mandate facing a major test in the supreme court as we await their decision on whether the controversial policies will proceed. that decision could come at any time as you look live at the supreme court. welcome to fox news live. i'm griff jenkins. jacqui: i'm jacqui heinrich, good to be with you griff. justice sotomayor has been slammed for her comments on child covid hospitalizations yesterday.