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On this programme before, but this is the first time that youre talking to us since you stepped down from your role as the uns humanitarian Chief Injune this year. Response that we will be facing a situation where people will drift fast it always is fast, its viral with famine into a situation where we cant see whats going on. The good thing about ethiopia, as you remember, was we could see what was happening and it attacked our consciences. Its not happening in sudan. Butjust to be clear, what ethiopia resulted in, it was A Million deaths from famine. So, you are saying that sudan could cause more than A Million deaths from famine . Yes. Yes, of course. And i know its very difficult to comprehend that because we dont really understand famine and we understand it probably less now in many ways than we did then when it was a very imp ....
Martin griffiths, welcome to hardtalk. Thank you very much. Thank you for having me. Now, you ve been in that seat on this programme before, but this is the first time that you re talking to us since you stepped down from your role as the un s humanitarian chief injune this year. You have greater liberty, essentially, now to tell us what you think about the situations that you ve seen. May we begin in sudan, which is just one of the crises that you ve dealt with in recent times? it s a civil war that in the last 18 months has put an extraordinary 25 million people in need of support and struggling to survive. You said recently that you thought sudan could be worse than ethiopia in the 1980s. What did you mean? well, sudan is the first place now where famine has been formally declared, as you know, the first place since 2017, because there s 25 million people in need, and we don t know precisely, because of the lack of access to these people, how much in need they are. We think that the ....
Martin griffiths, welcome to hardtalk. Thank you very much. Thank you for having me. Now, you ve been in that seat on this programme before, but this is the first time that you re talking to us since you stepped down from your role as the un s humanitarian chief injune this year. You have greater liberty, essentially, now to tell us what you think about the situations that you ve seen. May we begin in sudan, which is just one of the crises that you ve dealt with in recent times? it s a civil war that in the last 18 months has put an extraordinary 25 million people in need of support and struggling to survive. You said recently that you thought sudan could be worse than ethiopia in the 1980s. What did you mean? well, sudan is the first place now where famine has been formally declared, as you know, the first place since 2017, because there s 25 million people in need, and we don t know precisely, because of the lack of access to these people, how much in need they are. We think that the ....
Fawzia koofi, welcome to hardtalk. Thank you for having me. It s a great pleasure to have you in the hardtalk studio. It is now three years since taliban rule was restored in afghanistan. They have just passed a raft of new so called vice and virtue measures in kabul. Tell me about the impact of those measures, as you see it. You have put it very rightly after the, you know, three years since the taliban regime was restored. This is the right way to put it, because many people think, say, um, three years since the taliban victory, since they have taken power. Ijust believe it s three years since afghanistan was handed over to taliban because of the moral defeat by all of us, especially international community. Now, the new law. . . You re talking about the decision led by the united states of the western nations who d been backing the afghan government to withdraw their troops, which, of course, then led to the collapse of the afghan national army and the taliban moving back in to kabu ....