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by the end of the year — but at least four states, including hungary, want exemptions. russia's biggest banks will —— bank will also be placed under sanctions. tonight with the context — political analyst dahlia scheindlin, live from tel aviv, and from washington, the republican strategist ron christie. welcome to the programme. donald trump has weighed in on these midterm elections unlike any president before him. he has backed 140 candidates across the country. the primary election in ohio on tuesday was the first big test. trump had backed the former marine, author and venture capitalistjd vance, who'd found fame with a best—selling memoir called hillbilly elegy — a story of growing up with a drug addict mother among the appalachian working class. it struch a chord with many on the right who were still trying to understand trumps success. vance wasn't always a trump fan — but the late endorsement from mar—a—lago propelled him from third in the polling in march — to first in a very crowded republican field. in fact it wasn't even close. so what does vance�*s victory mean for trump, for the other candidates he's backed, and the future of the republican party? in ohio, anthony zurcher was watching. in the end, jd vance ended up winning this senate primary by a fairly comfortable margin — about 8% over his next closest rival with about 30% of the vote. and one thing i learned talking to vance supporters over the past few days as they appreciated his status as an outsider candidate who had never run for public office before. i think that shows the strength of anti—establishment candidates within republican primaries, six years after donald trump won the republican presidential nomination as the ultimate anti—establishment candidate. speaking of donald trump — his endorsement of vance clearly helped, giving vance a boost in the polls after he'd spent much of the campaign languishing towards the back of the pack. and vance was quick to thank donald trump in his victory speech at the conference centre behind me last night. thanks to the president for everything, for endorsing me. and i've gotta say, a lot of fake news media out there — and there's some good ones in the back there, some bad ones, too, let's be honest... booing we want trump! but they wanted to run the story that this campaign would be the death of donald trump's america first agenda. ladies and gentlemen, it ain't the death of the america first agenda. cheering and i was one of those reporters at the back of the room. and i definitely would've viewed a jd vance defeat as evidence that donald trump's influence within the republican party was waning. and there are people who will say 70% of republican voters here opted for someone who donald trump didn't endorse — but the reality is that there were forces within the republican party who were spending millions of dollars to defeatjd vance, and vance won anyway. and the field of republican candidates — all but one of them were trying to curry donald trump's support in favour, and that one candidate, matt dolan, finished a distant third. this won't be the only test of donald trump's political influence and endorsement power in the month ahead, but first impressions are important — and candidates for republican office in the months ahead will decide and view donald trump's endorsement as still meaningful, and it is much better to have it than not. indeed, politics perception. there's some evidence that recently donald trump piled in on the candidates that looked likely to win. and if you look closer atjd vance�*s journey, there in the background is peter thiel, a silicon valley billionaire and a very big patron of what they now call the new right. thiel gave more than $10 million to the super pac running vance�*s campaign. no question, vance represents many of the same america first policies — pro—life, hawkish on immigration and trade with china, a fierce opponent of america's adventures abroad — but he is different to trump. and there others emerging who arejust like him. today president biden called them the most extremist group in american history. are they? with us to discuss is republican strategist brian lanza, the former communications director for president trump's transition team. i guess you would say it was trump that won it, right, brian? absolutely. you have to look at the time he endorsed jd vance, he was absolutely. you have to look at the time he endorsedjd vance, he was in third place, then within a matter of days he was in the first place. i think trump's endorsement mattered a lot. but think trump's endorsement mattered a lot. �* ., ., , ., think trump's endorsement mattered a lot. �* . ., ,., . think trump's endorsement mattered a lot. �* . ., . ., lot. but what about the influence of eo - le like lot. but what about the influence of people like peter _ lot. but what about the influence of people like peter thiel? _ lot. but what about the influence of people like peter thiel? is - lot. but what about the influence of people like peter thiel? is he all. people like peter thiel? is he all about the republican party being trump's party, or of their new backers who bought into that america first parties and new pretenders emerging, of which she is one? i wouldn't call peter a pretender, he's the real deal is a serious person, he's been in politics for 15 years. it'sjust now person, he's been in politics for 15 years. it's just now being highlighted in a different level. but listen, the more the movement gets per delegate bigger, the more it attracts people like peter thiel and the venture capitalist money, business guys. this movement moves from state to state with more and more victories, you'll see more and more victories, you'll see more and more people emerge you want to be part of that movement and help fund that movement and help it expand. so do you subscribe to this idea of a new right, and how would you describe that?— new right, and how would you describe that? ~ , , , ., ., describe that? absolutely, you have to look and say— describe that? absolutely, you have to look and say there _ describe that? absolutely, you have to look and say there is _ describe that? absolutely, you have to look and say there is a _ describe that? absolutely, you have to look and say there is a new- to look and say there is a new right. you look at trump's policies, they are conservative, they are democratic party, anti—trade policies. so he merged with those — remember, trump was a democrat most of his life, so he emerged most of those policies with conservative policies, with respect to some of the social policies, the tax policies, and you have a new republican party. we used to talk about fair trade, now we never talk about fair trade, now we never talk about fair trade, now we never talk about fair trade any more. he is not about fair trade any more. he is not about free trade, no we never talk about free trade, no we never talk about free trade any more, talking about free trade any more, talking about fair trade. trump has changed the language of what it means to be a republican, with people like peter thiel helping out with that language change. thiel helping out with that language chance. �* ., , , change. anthony said it is antiestablishment. - change. anthony said it is antiestablishment. if - change. anthony said it is antiestablishment. if you | change. anthony said it is - antiestablishment. if you listen to jd vance, he says the culture war is in fact a class war. would you agree? i in fact a class war. would you auree? ~ in fact a class war. would you auree? would say so. told we can't talk about that. i would say so— told we can't talk about that. i would sa so. ~ ., , would say so. wrong, let me bring ou in on would say so. wrong, let me bring you in on this. _ would say so. wrong, let me bring you in on this, because _ would say so. wrong, let me bring you in on this, because you've - would say so. wrong, let me bring you in on this, because you've hadj you in on this, because you've had some involvement in purple states, now for millie and the red column. is the party in ohio different the one you worked for?— one you worked for? good evening, christian, always _ one you worked for? good evening, christian, always nice _ one you worked for? good evening, christian, always nice to _ one you worked for? good evening, christian, always nice to see - one you worked for? good evening, christian, always nice to see you. . christian, always nice to see you. absolutely— christian, always nice to see you. absolutely it's different. the ohio republican party that i worked for for much — republican party that i worked for for much of the 19905 is largely dead _ for much of the 19905 is largely dead i— for much of the 19905 is largely dead. i think it is pro—trump now. look_ dead. i think it is pro—trump now. look at_ dead. i think it is pro—trump now. look at my— dead. i think it is pro—trump now. look at my closest political mentor, the retiring — look at my closest political mentor, the retiring 5enator look at my closest political mentor, the retiring senator from ohio, rob portman _ the retiring senator from ohio, rob portman - — the retiring senator from ohio, rob portman — rob portman endorsed jane to him _ portman — rob portman endorsed jane to him again. — portman — rob portman endorsed jane to him again, used to be the chair oftheir— to him again, used to be the chair of their pelican party. she was down towards _ of their pelican party. she was down towards the bottom —— jane temkin. it towards the bottom —— jane temkin. it shows— towards the bottom —— jane temkin. it shows you — towards the bottom —— jane temkin. it shows you how far to the right the republican party in ohio has moved, and across the midwest, and trump _ moved, and across the midwest, and trump has _ moved, and across the midwest, and trump has tried to mould thi5 moved, and across the midwest, and trump has tried to mould this party in his— trump has tried to mould this party in his image. trump has tried to mould this party in his image-— in his image. there will some sa inc, in his image. there will some saying. why _ in his image. there will some saying. why is _ in his image. there will some saying, why is christian - in his image. there will some saying, why is christian going in his image. there will some - saying, why is christian going down this... this counts because the rest of the world at this moment is looking at america and the changing face of america, and what we had yesterday — the court's decision on roe v wade, what it means for foreign policy, and this new right that you describe will mean america has a very different relationship with the world secular i completely agree, i think he gets increasingly hard to look at america as the great shinin: hard to look at america as the great shining model of _ hard to look at america as the great shining model of democracy - hard to look at america as the great shining model of democracy in - hard to look at america as the great shining model of democracy in the l shining model of democracy in the world for many reasons, including the court leak yesterday and what we are seeing, especially given how that happened. i think in terms of this primary, it's not a matter of intellectualisation. what we are understanding about trump's endorsement is it's not a matter of him choosing a candidate and appreciating that candidate, it's a loyalty test. jd vance was very critical of trump early on in his career, then he did this me a call book, "i was wrong, trump is right," and i thought he sounded like a prisoner being forced to make a present to make a statement so we could get these loyalty tests. i'm reminded ofjames comey who said before he was sacked, "i was asked to give loyalty." that's not how democracy works.— to give loyalty." that's not how democracy works. to give loyalty." that's not how democra works. ., �* , .,~ democracy works. you're shaking your head, democracy works. you're shaking your head. brian- — democracy works. you're shaking your head, brian. it's— democracy works. you're shaking your head, brian. it's all— democracy works. you're shaking your head, brian. it's all politics. _ head, brian. it's all politics. trump look _ head, brian. it's all politics. trump look at _ head, brian. it's all politics. trump look at the _ head, brian. it's all politics. trump look at the data - head, brian. it's all politics. trump look at the data and | head, brian. it's all politics. - trump look at the data and said josh mandel— trump look at the data and said josh mandel will— trump look at the data and said josh mandel will likely— trump look at the data and said josh mandel will likely lose _ trump look at the data and said josh mandel will likely lose the _ trump look at the data and said josh mandel will likely lose the general . mandel will likely lose the general electiorr— mandel will likely lose the general election again5t tim _ mandel will likely lose the general election again5t tim ryan, - mandel will likely lose the general election again5t tim ryan, he - mandel will likely lose the general election again5t tim ryan, he said it's critical— election again5t tim ryan, he said it's critical we _ election again5t tim ryan, he said it's critical we keep _ election again5t tim ryan, he said it's critical we keep ohio, - election again5t tim ryan, he said it's critical we keep ohio, who's. it's critical we keep ohio, who's the candidate _ it's critical we keep ohio, who's the candidate be5t _ it's critical we keep ohio, who's the candidate best available? . it's critical we keep ohio, who's. the candidate best available? you look at _ the candidate best available? you look at seven _ the candidate best available? you look at seven daukau5 _ the candidate best available? you look at seven daukau5 second - the candidate best available? you i look at seven daukau5 second place, look at seven daukaus second place, who was— look at seven daukaus second place, who was the — look at seven daukaus second place, who was the least _ look at seven daukaus second place, who was the least viable _ look at seven daukaus second place, who was the least viable candidate . who was the least viable candidate -- second-place _ who was the least viable candidate —— second—place. trump— who was the least viable candidate —— second—place. trump wants - who was the least viable candidate —— second—place. trump wants toi who was the least viable candidate i —— second—place. trump wants to win ohio _ —— second—place. trump wants to win ohio in _ —— second—place. trump wants to win ohio in november, _ —— second—place. trump wants to win ohio in november, and he _ —— second—place. trump wants to win ohio in november, and he picked - —— second—place. trump wants to win ohio in november, and he picked the| ohio in november, and he picked the candidate _ ohio in november, and he picked the candidate he — ohio in november, and he picked the candidate he thought _ ohio in november, and he picked the candidate he thought was _ ohio in november, and he picked the candidate he thought was best - ohio in november, and he picked the candidate he thought was best to - candidate he thought was best to win, plucking _ candidate he thought was best to win, plucking him _ candidate he thought was best to win, plucking him from _ candidate he thought was best to win, plucking him from third - candidate he thought was best tol win, plucking him from third place and out _ win, plucking him from third place and put them _ win, plucking him from third place and put them in— win, plucking him from third place and put them in the _ win, plucking him from third place and put them in the first. - win, plucking him from third place and put them in the first. it's - and put them in the first. it's not and put them in the first. it's not a loyalty— and put them in the first. it's not a loyalty test. _ and put them in the first. it's not a loyalty test, he _ and put them in the first. it's not a loyalty test, he wants - and put them in the first. it's not a loyalty test, he wants them - and put them in the first. it's not a loyalty test, he wants them toi a loyalty test, he wants them to win _ a loyalty test, he wants them to win. . , a loyalty test, he wants them to win. ., , ., ., .. ., a loyalty test, he wants them to win. .,, ., ., ., ., win. there was another candidate on the ballot, matt _ win. there was another candidate on the ballot, matt dolan, _ win. there was another candidate on the ballot, matt dolan, who - win. there was another candidate on the ballot, matt dolan, who ran - win. there was another candidate on the ballot, matt dolan, who ran on l the ballot, matt dolan, who ran on an anti—trump ticket within their pelican party, and he got 23% of the vote. there were some suggestions he was coming up on the rails and just ran out of time. which is good news for congressman tim ryan, who won the democratic ticket last night. of course this is not done and dusted in ohio, and it will go to the election in november. the big question is whether there are enough people in the centre who are turned off by the big lie in the trump campaign that would come onto ryan's side. it’ll campaign that would come onto ryan's side. �* , . , , side. it'll be a very interesting contest to _ side. it'll be a very interesting contest to watch _ side. it'll be a very interesting contest to watch this - side. it'll be a very interesting i contest to watch this november. side. it'll be a very interesting - contest to watch this november. tim ryan is— contest to watch this november. tim ryan is not— contest to watch this november. tim ryan is not your elizabeth warren or a member— ryan is not your elizabeth warren or a member of the squad, he's from a very conservative district that abuts — very conservative district that abuts pennsylvania and ohio. and there _ abuts pennsylvania and ohio. and there are — abuts pennsylvania and ohio. and there are a — abuts pennsylvania and ohio. and there are a lot of not only democrats, but independents who like him. democrats, but independents who like hint there _ democrats, but independents who like him. there are lots of republicans who like _ him. there are lots of republicans who like him. so ultimately this will come — who like him. so ultimately this will come down, as you suggest, or whether it — will come down, as you suggest, or whether it will be the donald trump show, _ whether it will be the donald trump show, really running through the buckeye — show, really running through the buckeye state and ohio, or will there _ buckeye state and ohio, or will there he — buckeye state and ohio, or will there be enough independents and people _ there be enough independents and people on the democratic side of the aisle who _ people on the democratic side of the aisle who could push someone like a tim ryan _ aisle who could push someone like a tim ryan through? i don't think this is a done _ tim ryan through? i don't think this is a done deal for the republicans, ithink— is a done deal for the republicans, i think this — is a done deal for the republicans, i think this is a likely pick—up or hold _ i think this is a likely pick—up or hold for— i think this is a likely pick—up or hold for us, _ i think this is a likely pick—up or hold for us, when the democrats think— hold for us, when the democrats think they— hold for us, when the democrats think they have a good chance of doing _ think they have a good chance of doing so — think they have a good chance of doing so. list think they have a good chance of doinu so. , ,. doing so. list you need reminding, elections to _ doing so. list you need reminding, elections to have _ doing so. list you need reminding, elections to have consequences. i donald trumps election in 2016 delivered a conservative majority to the supreme court — and it is that majority that looks set to now overturn roe v wade, the court's ruling from 1973 that legalised abortion. if their draught ruling that was leaked yesterday is approved it would have enormous ramifications, not least for the big coporates that put vast sums of money into the conservative super pacs. staff members of these companies want their employers to speak out and lobby republican lawmakers who have threatened to codify, in law, the courts opinion. some big names already putting down their marker. amazon, citi, apple, and yelp confirmed this week they will pay employees to travel interstate to access abortion care if they need it. levi jeans said overturning the ruling would put at risk "the gains women have made in the worplace over the past 50 years." but taking a political stand can have consequences. last month, disney spoke out against florida's "don't say gay" bill — the law that prevents teachers discussing gender identity in case. —— in class. and in retribution for that, the governor ron desantis stripped them of their special tax status. brian, you are the right man for this because you have been a campaign manager, you've rattled with a ten around the corporate said. are you at all worried that on this issue, on voting rights, on the big lie, corporate search suddenly being put in a very difficult position in their support for the republican party?— republican party? there have certainly been _ republican party? there have certainly been squeaks. - republican party? there have certainly been squeaks. we i republican party? there have i certainly been squeaks. we saw republican party? there have - certainly been squeaks. we saw that certainly been squeaks. we 5aw that last year— certainly been squeaks. we saw that last year when — certainly been squeaks. we saw that last year when they _ certainly been squeaks. we saw that last year when they said _ certainly been squeaks. we saw that last year when they said they - last year when they said they weren't— last year when they said they weren't going _ last year when they said they weren't going to _ last year when they said they weren't going to give - last year when they said they weren't going to give the - last year when they said they - weren't going to give the campaign donations— weren't going to give the campaign donations and _ weren't going to give the campaign donations and they _ weren't going to give the campaign donations and they gave _ weren't going to give the campaign donations and they gave in - weren't going to give the campaignl donations and they gave in previous years _ donations and they gave in previous years but _ donations and they gave in previous years but i — donations and they gave in previous years. but i think— donations and they gave in previous years. but i think the _ donations and they gave in previous years. but i think the corporations i years. but i think the corporations are looking — years. but i think the corporations are looking at _ years. but i think the corporations are looking at consequence - years. but i think the corporations are looking at consequence for. are looking at consequence for actions — are looking at consequence for actions they— are looking at consequence for actions. they will— are looking at consequence for actions. they will now- are looking at consequence for actions. they will now have . are looking at consequence for actions. they will now have to| are looking at consequence for- actions. they will now have to weigh - disney— actions. they will now have to weigh - disney is— actions. they will now have to weigh - disney is a— actions. they will now have to weigh - disney is a good— actions. they will now have to weigh — disney is a good example, - — disney is a good example, initially— — disney is a good example, initially they— — disney is a good example, initially they wanted - — disney is a good example, initially they wanted to - — disney is a good example, initially they wanted to stayl — disney is a good example, i initially they wanted to stay out — disney is a good example, - initially they wanted to stay out of that fight, — initially they wanted to stay out of that fight, then _ initially they wanted to stay out of that fight, then the _ initially they wanted to stay out of that fight, then the staffers - initially they wanted to stay out of that fight, then the staffers who l that fight, then the staffers who push _ that fight, then the staffers who push for— that fight, then the staffers who push for the _ that fight, then the staffers who push for the executive _ that fight, then the staffers who push for the executive board - that fight, then the staffers who push for the executive board to| that fight, then the staffers who i push for the executive board to get involved. and — push for the executive board to get involved. and i_ push for the executive board to get involved, and i think— push for the executive board to get involved, and i think it's— push for the executive board to get involved, and i think it's backfired i involved, and i think it's backfired on disney's — involved, and i think it's backfired on disney's part _ involved, and i think it's backfired on disney's part. certainly- involved, and i think it's backfired on disney's part. certainly what . involved, and i think it's backfired i on disney's part. certainly what the governor— on disney's part. certainly what the governor did — on disney's part. certainly what the governor did wasn't— on disney's part. certainly what the governor did wasn't conservative, l on disney's part. certainly what the| governor did wasn't conservative, it was retaliatory. _ governor did wasn't conservative, it was retaliatory, but _ governor did wasn't conservative, it was retaliatory, but that's _ governor did wasn't conservative, it was retaliatory, but that's what - was retaliatory, but that's what politics — was retaliatory, but that's what politics is — was retaliatory, but that's what politics is today. _ was retaliatory, but that's what politics is today. it's _ was retaliatory, but that's what politics is today. it's not- was retaliatory, but that's whatl politics is today. it's not politics i'm comfortable _ politics is today. it's not politics i'm comfortable with, _ politics is today. it's not politics i'm comfortable with, but- politics is today. it's not politics i'm comfortable with, but you . politics is today. it's not politics i i'm comfortable with, but you have to look— i'm comfortable with, but you have to look at _ i'm comfortable with, but you have to look at a — i'm comfortable with, but you have to look at a corporate _ i'm comfortable with, but you have to look at a corporate board - i'm comfortable with, but you have to look at a corporate board and i to look at a corporate board and save _ to look at a corporate board and save more — to look at a corporate board and save more republican _ to look at a corporate board and | save more republican governors to look at a corporate board and - save more republican governors will be save more republican governors will he doing _ save more republican governors will he doing this, — save more republican governors will be doing this, not _ save more republican governors will be doing this, not less, _ save more republican governors will be doing this, not less, so— save more republican governors will be doing this, not less, so we - save more republican governors will be doing this, not less, so we needl be doing this, not less, so we need to he _ be doing this, not less, so we need to he very— be doing this, not less, so we need to be very careful— be doing this, not less, so we need to be very careful reason _ be doing this, not less, so we need to be very careful reason decide - to be very careful reason decide to engage _ to be very careful reason decide to engage do — to be very careful reason decide to encuae. ,, to be very careful reason decide to encuae. ~ to be very careful reason decide to enuuae. ~ ., ., to be very careful reason decide to enuuae. 4' ., , to be very careful reason decide to encuae. ~ ., ., ,., engage. do you think abortion is a business issue _ engage. do you think abortion is a business issue cancelo _ engage. do you think abortion is a business issue cancelo i _ engage. do you think abortion is a business issue cancelo i think it's| business issue cancelo i think it's a big issue for everyone, for women, as well as business for many reasons. it as well as business for many reasons-— as well as business for many reasons. . ~ , , , , ., reasons. it weakens the impression of american — reasons. it weakens the impression of american democracy, _ reasons. it weakens the impression of american democracy, and - reasons. it weakens the impression of american democracy, and that's| of american democracy, and that's because of the impression of the court. we know that polling shows trust in the supreme court is declining, people know that one of the judges declining, people know that one of thejudges has declining, people know that one of the judges has always declining, people know that one of thejudges has always been declining, people know that one of the judges has always been a political process in america, and its reducing legitimacy of those rulings across americans and especially the fact that two court justices were appointed in the wrong way. one was appointed because the republican party blocked the obama nomination, and the final push for any connie barrett. these make americans lose trust in the process. it's an issue for american democracy and women in half the states in the united states who are set to live under laws that they then severely restrict abortions. we will have an incredible toll on their health, their lives, their economy, social mobility, and it's an anti—woman decision. i think it's essentially anti—human rights in general. i don't see how we can call each other —— ourselves a country of equality if one gender has what but they'll have to focus on what their employees think. when you look at the moment at the number of open jobs in america, 11.5, that's the highest level in 25 years. there are two jobs highest level in 25 years. there are twojobs for highest level in 25 years. there are two jobs for every person in america. if you don't like the way your company behaves, you move. i agree with you. i think we have a severe _ agree with you. i think we have a severe labour cri5i5 here in america. _ severe labour cri5i5 here in america, there are so many open jobs, _ america, there are so many open jobs. so — america, there are so many open jobs, so many people who have the ability— jobs, so many people who have the ability to— jobs, so many people who have the ability to be employed, but you look at walt _ ability to be employed, but you look at walt disney, let's go down to florida — at walt disney, let's go down to florida - — at walt disney, let's go down to florida - i— at walt disney, let's go down to florida — ithink at walt disney, let's go down to florida — i think it was a vocal minority— florida — i think it was a vocal minority who really pushed the ceo of disney— minority who really pushed the ceo of disney to act and take actions in his own _ of disney to act and take actions in his own manner. i think there's a silent majority of all disney employees who would say, let's focus on being _ employees who would say, let's focus on being the magic kingdom rather than the _ on being the magic kingdom rather than the woke kingdom.— on being the magic kingdom rather than the woke kingdom. ryan, nice to have ou than the woke kingdom. ryan, nice to have you on — than the woke kingdom. ryan, nice to have you on the _ than the woke kingdom. ryan, nice to have you on the programme. - than the woke kingdom. ryan, nice to have you on the programme. my - have you on the programme. my pleasure, thank you. the eu has proposed the toughest sanctions yet against russia — including a total ban on russian oil imports — as moscow steps up the war inside ukraine. russia's forces have entered the steel plant in mariupol, the last part of the city held by ukrainian forces. the ukrainian authorities say they are in contact with their soldiers inside the azovstal plant which has come under fierce bombardment since an evacuation of civilians. these pictures were posted on social media and are said to show the facility under attack on monday. at least 200 ukrainian civilians are thought to be trapped there. and this is the western city of lviv, where overnight the russian forces struck critical infrastructure, targeting the electrical plants that supply the power to the railways. the bbc�*sjoe inwood is there. it wasn't actually the city centre that was hit, but this place — a rather anonymous industrial park on the outskirts, and because of that — an electrical substation. now the russians say that six of them were hit in total across the country. they are trying to disable the rail network — and the reason they want to do that is because that will stop the flow of weapons from the west to the east. for weeks, the eu has been discussing how to wean itself off russian energy. under today's proposals, the block will stop buying russian crude oil within six months. the commission is also moving on sberbank, russia's biggest bank, which will now be removed from swift, the international payments system. the commission president ursula von der leyen says russia will pay the price. today, we are addressing our dependency on russian oil. and let's be clear, it will not be easy. because some member states are strongly dependent on russian oil. but we simply have to do it. so today, we will propose to ban all russian oil from europe. this will be... applause this will be a complete import ban on all russian oil, seaborne and pipeline, crude and refined. oil is the single biggest source of funding for the kremlin. they will net $180 billion in revenue this year alone despite the sanctions, which will equate to 60% of russia's budget. 70% of russian oil products. lets bring in craig kennedy, an energy commentator and associate at harvard's davis centre. he's also writing a book on the history of russia oil and civil society. welcome to the programme. tell me, can vladimir putin send it 6 million barrels of oil somewhere else? hat barrels of oil somewhere else? not easil . in barrels of oil somewhere else? not easily- in fact _ barrels of oil somewhere else? not easily. in fact is probably not possible _ easily. in fact is probably not possible. europe _ easily. in fact is probably not possible. europe is by- easily. in fact is probably not possible. europe is by far- easily. in fact is probably not| possible. europe is by far and easily. in fact is probably not - possible. europe is by far and away the largest— possible. europe is by far and away the largest buyer— possible. europe is by far and away the largest buyer of— possible. europe is by far and away the largest buyer of russian- possible. europe is by far and away the largest buyer of russian oil, i the largest buyer of russian oil, and it's— the largest buyer of russian oil, and it's had _ the largest buyer of russian oil, and it's had this _ the largest buyer of russian oil, and it's had this relationship - and it's had this relationship developing _ and it's had this relationship developing for— and it's had this relationship developing for the _ and it's had this relationship developing for the last - and it's had this relationship developing for the last 60 l and it's had this relationship - developing for the last 60 years. and there's — developing for the last 60 years. and there's a _ developing for the last 60 years. and there's a massive _ developing for the last 60 years. and there's a massive amount i developing for the last 60 years. and there's a massive amount of infrastructure _ and there's a massive amount of infrastructure needed _ and there's a massive amount of infrastructure needed to - and there's a massive amount of infrastructure needed to move i and there's a massive amount of . infrastructure needed to move that much _ infrastructure needed to move that much oil- — infrastructure needed to move that much oil- 5%— infrastructure needed to move that much oil- 5% of— infrastructure needed to move that much oil— 5% of the _ infrastructure needed to move that much oil— 5% of the global- much oil— 5% of the global production— much oil— 5% of the global production - _ much oil— 5% of the global production — into- much oil— 5% of the global production — into europe. i much oil— 5% of the global. production — into europe. the much oil— 5% of the global- production — into europe. the only other— production — into europe. the only other market — production — into europe. the only other market they— production — into europe. the only other market they could _ production — into europe. the only other market they could possibly. other market they could possibly take that much _ other market they could possibly take that much oil— other market they could possibly take that much oil would - other market they could possibly take that much oil would be - other market they could possibly take that much oil would be the i other market they could possibly. take that much oil would be the far east, _ take that much oil would be the far east. china — take that much oil would be the far east, china and _ take that much oil would be the far east, china and india _ take that much oil would be the far east, china and india in— take that much oil would be the far east, china and india in particular. | east, china and india in particular. but getting — east, china and india in particular. but getting there _ east, china and india in particular. but getting there is _ east, china and india in particular. but getting there is an _ east, china and india in particular. but getting there is an issue. - east, china and india in particular. but getting there is an issue. so. east, china and india in particular. but getting there is an issue. so ifj but getting there is an issue. so if you wanted — but getting there is an issue. so if you wanted to _ but getting there is an issue. so if you wanted to move _ but getting there is an issue. so if you wanted to move all— but getting there is an issue. so if you wanted to move all that - but getting there is an issue. so if you wanted to move all that oil. but getting there is an issue. so ifj you wanted to move all that oil far east, _ you wanted to move all that oil far east. you — you wanted to move all that oil far east. you need _ you wanted to move all that oil far east, you need to _ you wanted to move all that oil far east, you need to put _ you wanted to move all that oil far east, you need to put it— you wanted to move all that oil far east, you need to put it on- you wanted to move all that oil far east, you need to put it on boats i east, you need to put it on boats and the — east, you need to put it on boats and the black— east, you need to put it on boats and the black sea _ east, you need to put it on boats and the black sea and _ east, you need to put it on boats and the black sea and the - and the black sea and the baltic, and the black sea and the baltic, and taken — and the black sea and the baltic, and taken on _ and the black sea and the baltic, and taken on a _ and the black sea and the baltic, and taken on a trip _ and the black sea and the baltic, and taken on a trip ten _ and the black sea and the baltic, and taken on a trip ten times- and taken on a trip ten times further— and taken on a trip ten times furtherthan_ and taken on a trip ten times furtherthan it— and taken on a trip ten times further than it takes - and taken on a trip ten times further than it takes to - and taken on a trip ten times further than it takes to get . and taken on a trip ten times| further than it takes to get to europe — further than it takes to get to europe you'd _ further than it takes to get to europe. you'd be _ further than it takes to get to europe. you'd be ten - further than it takes to get to europe. you'd be ten times. further than it takes to get to l europe. you'd be ten times the amount— europe. you'd be ten times the amount of— europe. you'd be ten times the amount of tanker— europe. you'd be ten times the amount of tanker capacity, - europe. you'd be ten times the amount of tanker capacity, and j europe. you'd be ten times the - amount of tanker capacity, and that tanker capacity— amount of tanker capacity, and that tanker capacity isn't— amount of tanker capacity, and that tanker capacity isn't there - amount of tanker capacity, and that tanker capacity isn't there to - amount of tanker capacity, and that tanker capacity isn't there to beginl tanker capacity isn't there to begin with _ tanker capacity isn't there to begin with. so _ tanker capacity isn't there to begin with, ,, ., ., tanker capacity isn't there to begin with, ., ., , tanker capacity isn't there to begin with. ., ., , tanker capacity isn't there to begin with-_ what i tanker capacity isn't there to begin - with._ what would with. so what does he do? what would make it even — with. so what does he do? what would make it even more _ with. so what does he do? what would make it even more difficult _ with. so what does he do? what would make it even more difficult is - with. so what does he do? what would make it even more difficult is the - make it even more difficult is the eu is— make it even more difficult is the eu is looking at _ make it even more difficult is the eu is looking at potentially - make it even more difficult is the. eu is looking at potentially putting in place _ eu is looking at potentially putting in place sanctions _ eu is looking at potentially putting in place sanctions against - eu is looking at potentially puttingl in place sanctions against european entities _ in place sanctions against european entities that — in place sanctions against european entities that facilitate _ in place sanctions against european entities that facilitate trade. - in place sanctions against european entities that facilitate trade. they. entities that facilitate trade. they play a _ entities that facilitate trade. they play a critical— entities that facilitate trade. they play a critical role, _ entities that facilitate trade. they play a critical role, they— entities that facilitate trade. they play a critical role, they insure i play a critical role, they insure most — play a critical role, they insure most of — play a critical role, they insure most of the _ play a critical role, they insure most of the vessels _ play a critical role, they insure most of the vessels and - play a critical role, they insure i most of the vessels and finance them _ most of the vessels and finance them. without _ most of the vessels and finance them. without their— most of the vessels and financej them. without their assistance, most of the vessels and finance - them. without their assistance, that seaborne _ them. without their assistance, that seaborne trade — them. without their assistance, that seaborne trade to _ them. without their assistance, that seaborne trade to russia _ them. without their assistance, that seaborne trade to russia goes - them. without their assistance, that seaborne trade to russia goes awayl seaborne trade to russia goes away completely — seaborne trade to russia goes away completely so _ seaborne trade to russia goes away completely. so that _ seaborne trade to russia goes away completely. so that oil— seaborne trade to russia goes away completely. so that oil gets - seaborne trade to russia goes away completely. so that oil gets back. seaborne trade to russia goes awayj completely. so that oil gets back up and -- _ completely. so that oil gets back up and -- in _ completely. so that oil gets back up and -- in russia— completely. so that oil gets back up and —— in russia and _ completely. so that oil gets back up and —— in russia and that _ completely. so that oil gets back up| and —— in russia and that represents half of— and —— in russia and that represents half of russia's — and —— in russia and that represents half of russia's total. _ and -- in russia and that represents half of russia's total.— half of russia's total. radiance but a lot of their _ half of russia's total. radiance but a lot of their oil _ half of russia's total. radiance but a lot of their oil on _ half of russia's total. radiance but a lot of their oil on russian - a lot of their oil on russian tankers. does russia have something like that? eventually he'll have to start capping wells, won't he? that's right, russia doesn't have the storage _ that's right, russia doesn't have the storage facility _ that's right, russia doesn't have the storage facility and - that's right, russia doesn't have the storage facility and it - that's right, russia doesn't havej the storage facility and it doesn't have _ the storage facility and it doesn't have the — the storage facility and it doesn't have the tanker— the storage facility and it doesn't have the tanker to _ the storage facility and it doesn't have the tanker to manage. - the storage facility and it doesn't have the tanker to manage. so l have the tanker to manage. so what they'll— have the tanker to manage. so what they'll need — have the tanker to manage. so what they'll need to — have the tanker to manage. so what they'll need to do _ have the tanker to manage. so what they'll need to do is _ have the tanker to manage. so what they'll need to do is start shutting . they'll need to do is start shutting those _ they'll need to do is start shutting those wells — they'll need to do is start shutting those wells. most _ they'll need to do is start shutting those wells. most people - they'll need to do is start shutting those wells. most people think. they'll need to do is start shutting i those wells. most people think that a bi- those wells. most people think that a big oil— those wells. most people think that a big oil producer— those wells. most people think that a big oil producer like _ those wells. most people think that a big oil producer like russia - those wells. most people think that a big oil producer like russia or- a big oil producer like russia or saudi _ a big oil producer like russia or saudi arabia, _ a big oil producer like russia or saudi arabia, you can— a big oil producer like russia or saudi arabia, you can throttle i a big oil producer like russia or. saudi arabia, you can throttle back the oil— saudi arabia, you can throttle back the oil welis— saudi arabia, you can throttle back the oil wells and _ saudi arabia, you can throttle back the oil wells and take _ saudi arabia, you can throttle backl the oil wells and take 1—3,000,000 barrels— the oil wells and take 1—3,000,000 barrels of— the oil wells and take 1—3,000,000 barrels of oil— the oil wells and take 1—3,000,000 barrels of oil without _ the oil wells and take 1—3,000,000 barrels of oil without consequence. i barrels of oil without consequence. but that's— barrels of oil without consequence. but that's not the _ barrels of oil without consequence. but that's not the case _ barrels of oil without consequence. but that's not the case with - barrels of oil without consequence. | but that's not the case with russia. 85% of— but that's not the case with russia. 85% of their— but that's not the case with russia. 85% of their wells _ but that's not the case with russia. 85% of their wells are _ but that's not the case with russia. 85% of their wells are low- but that's not the case with russia. j 85% of their wells are low wielding, so for— 85% of their wells are low wielding, so for them — 85% of their wells are low wielding, so for them to — 85% of their wells are low wielding, so for them to put _ 85% of their wells are low wielding, so for them to put all— 85% of their wells are low wielding, so for them to put all the _ 85% of their wells are low wielding, so for them to put all the oil- 85% of their wells are low wielding, so for them to put all the oil they . so for them to put all the oil they can't _ so for them to put all the oil they can't ship — so for them to put all the oil they can't ship to _ so for them to put all the oil they can't ship to asia, _ 50 for them to put all the oil they can't ship to asia, they— so for them to put all the oil they can't ship to asia, they have - so for them to put all the oil they can't ship to asia, they have to l can't ship to asia, they have to leave _ can't ship to asia, they have to leave it — can't ship to asia, they have to leave it on _ can't ship to asia, they have to leave it on the _ can't ship to asia, they have to leave it on the ground, - can't ship to asia, they have to. leave it on the ground, meaning going _ leave it on the ground, meaning going through _ leave it on the ground, meaning going through closing _ leave it on the ground, meaning going through closing down - leave it on the ground, meaningj going through closing down tens leave it on the ground, meaning i going through closing down tens of thousands— going through closing down tens of thousands of— going through closing down tens of thousands of wells. _ going through closing down tens of thousands of wells. when - going through closing down tens of thousands of wells. when you - going through closing down tens of thousands of wells. when you shuti thousands of wells. when you shut down _ thousands of wells. when you shut down these — thousands of wells. when you shut down these low _ thousands of wells. when you shut down these low productivity - thousands of wells. when you shut down these low productivity wells. down these low productivity wells for a long — down these low productivity wells for a long period _ down these low productivity wells for a long period of— down these low productivity wells for a long period of time, - down these low productivity wells for a long period of time, it- fora long period of time, it becomes— for a long period of time, it becomes increasingly- for a long period of time, it. becomes increasingly difficult for a long period of time, it- becomes increasingly difficult to open _ becomes increasingly difficult to open them — becomes increasingly difficult to open them later— becomes increasingly difficult to open them later on. _ becomes increasingly difficult to open them later on. so - becomes increasingly difficult to open them later on. so russia l becomes increasingly difficult to| open them later on. so russia is losing _ open them later on. so russia is losing a — open them later on. so russia is losing a lot — open them later on. so russia is losing a lot of _ open them later on. so russia is losing a lot of its _ open them later on. so russia is losing a lot of its production - losing a lot of its production capacity _ losing a lot of its production capacity it _ losing a lot of its production ca aci . ., ,., losing a lot of its production ca aci , ., , ., , losing a lot of its production caaci . ., capacity. it will also be painful for europe _ capacity. it will also be painful for europe - — capacity. it will also be painful for europe - do _ capacity. it will also be painful for europe - do you _ capacity. it will also be painful for europe - do you expect - capacity. it will also be painful. for europe - do you expect there for europe — do you expect there will be another oil price shock here on the continent? and if so, are we self imposing a recession towards the end of the year? it’s the end of the year? it's interesting, _ the end of the year? it's interesting, we - the end of the year? it's interesting, we didn't see too much of a reaction — interesting, we didn't see too much of a reaction to _ interesting, we didn't see too much of a reaction to them _ interesting, we didn't see too much of a reaction to them taking - interesting, we didn't see too much of a reaction to them taking 5- of a reaction to them taking 5 million — of a reaction to them taking 5 million barrels— of a reaction to them taking 5 million barrels of— of a reaction to them taking 5 million barrels of oil- of a reaction to them taking 5 million barrels of oil out. - of a reaction to them taking 5 million barrels of oil out. it . of a reaction to them taking 5. million barrels of oil out. it went up million barrels of oil out. it went up only % _ million barrels of oil out. it went up only 4%. part— million barrels of oil out. it went up only 4%. part of— million barrels of oil out. it went up only 4%. part of that is - million barrels of oil out. it went . up only 4%. part of that is because many— up only 4%. part of that is because many people — up only 4%. part of that is because many people feel _ up only 4%. part of that is because many people feel there's _ up only 4%. part of that is because many people feel there's a - up only 4%. part of that is because many people feel there's a falling. many people feel there's a falling demand _ many people feel there's a falling demand in — many people feel there's a falling demand in china, _ many people feel there's a falling demand in china, which— many people feel there's a falling demand in china, which may- many people feel there's a falling. demand in china, which may offset demand _ demand in china, which may offset demand from — demand in china, which may offset demand from russia. _ demand in china, which may offset demand from russia.— demand in china, which may offset demand from russia. ron, the last hour or so. — demand from russia. ron, the last hour or so. the _ demand from russia. ron, the last hour or so, the fed _ demand from russia. ron, the last hour or so, the fed has _ demand from russia. ron, the last hour or so, the fed has said - hour or so, the fed has said it's raising interest rates and has raised them by half a percentage point, the first time it's done that since the year 2000. it's trying to get on top of inflation and the job market problem you are talking about earlier. but this public it's the issue, if there is an energy price break here in europe, it'll be felt in america. ida break here in europe, it'll be felt in america-— break here in europe, it'll be felt in america. no question about it, christian, and _ in america. no question about it, christian, and the _ in america. no question about it, christian, and the federal- in america. no question about it, | christian, and the federal reserve here in— christian, and the federal reserve here in the — christian, and the federal reserve here in the us has been very slow to address the — here in the us has been very slow to address the inflation situation we have here — address the inflation situation we have here. we have the worst inflationary policies in place in 40 years. _ inflationary policies in place in 40 years. and — inflationary policies in place in 40 years, and you saw them raise the basis _ years, and you saw them raise the basis rate — years, and you saw them raise the basis rate by 2.5% a little bit earlier— basis rate by 2.5% a little bit earlier this year, now you see another— earlier this year, now you see another half a point. what i ultimately believe is it will be a lot more — ultimately believe is it will be a lot more expensive for americans to try to _ lot more expensive for americans to try to buy— lot more expensive for americans to try to buy a — lot more expensive for americans to try to buy a home or car, and when we head _ try to buy a home or car, and when we head into — try to buy a home or car, and when we head into the november elections, i we head into the november elections, i think a _ we head into the november elections, i think a lot _ we head into the november elections, i think a lot of americans a look at this and _ i think a lot of americans a look at this and say — i think a lot of americans a look at this and say, "this is in exactly the monetary policy i was looking for," and — the monetary policy i was looking for," and given the energy crisis we have _ for," and given the energy crisis we have - — for," and given the energy crisis we have — america did spend billions of dollars— have — america did spend billions of dollars a _ have — america did spend billions of dollars a day importing oil from russia, — dollars a day importing oil from russia, and the fact that we've turned — russia, and the fact that we've turned that spigot off in addition to that _ turned that spigot off in addition to that whatjoe turned that spigot off in addition to that what joe biden has done with federal— to that what joe biden has done with federal lands, i think energy prices will go _ federal lands, i think energy prices will go up — federal lands, i think energy prices will go up and confidence in the government of the us by our citizens will go _ government of the us by our citizens will go down in november. it�*s a will go down in november. it's a very important _ will go down in november. it's a very important decision, - will go down in november. it�*s —. very important decision, perhaps putting an end to the cheap money we've known for the last few years. craig kennedy, thanks for your expertise on the oil situation in russia. stay with us, on the other side of the break, we will hear from doctor anthony fascia. remember covid? it's still around, will tell you how much. stick around. —— dr anthony fauci. hello. we have warmer weather on the way for all parts of the uk in the days ahead as we tap into a south—westerly airstream bringing us airfrom quite a long way south in the atlantic. more on that in just a moment. for the here and now, we are still seeing some heavier showers clearing away from easternmost england, but overnight, england and wales will become fine with clear spells, there will be some rain first thing across northern and western scotland, it will be very mild here under the cloud and rain. through thursday daytime, we will have high—pressure sitting to the south of the uk. these are the fronts trying weave into the north. between the two, a south—westerly airstream, and we can follow the source of that air a long way south into the atlantic. yes, it cools somewhat as it journeys across the relatively cooler waters of the atlantic, but it still means for the entire of the uk, our temperature should be bolstered on thursday. for england and wales, one or two stray showers, but thanks to the area of high—pressure, a lot of fine weather, sunshine and up to 21 celsius. more cloud for scotland and northern ireland thanks to the fronts close by. some more persistent rain may keep glasgow back atjust 15 celsius in terms of a high. pollen levels across england and wales will be high on thursday once the sun comes out, it's tree pollen that we are contending with at this time of year. thursday into friday, we see this area of high—pressure just sliding a little further south allowing a more potent weather front to come in from the northwest. rain initially on friday for scotland and northern ireland, pushes down into northern england through the day, brighter skies follow. it will feel little fresher, perhaps, here behind the front, but in the sunshine, temperature should push up to perhaps 17 celsius again in aberdeen. cooler for northern england with the cloud and rain, still warm to the south, possibly quite cloudy at times. potentially some heavier rain friday night into the early hours of saturday crossing wales and southern counties of england, but for the weekend, it's high—pressure yet again that comes to dominate. sunday, we mayjust see some fronts trying to tip into the northwest, but for the weekend, at the moment, we are talking about a lot of fine weather, and we will still be sitting in that relatively warm air, so temperatures quite widely in the high teens to the low 20s. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. the rupture in american politics. joe biden says the supreme court's intent to overturn roe v wade is about more than just abortion. this maga crowd is really the most extreme political organisation that existed in american history. but the maga crowd in ohio are celebrating. donald trump's pick in the republican primary romps home, thank to the former president's endorsement. what does that mean for the future of the party and the direction of the country. —— the actress amber heard takes the stand in her defamation trial, against her ex—husband johnny depp and describes how they first fell in love. when i was around johnny, i felt like the most beautiful person in the whole world. you know, he made me feel seen, he made me feel like a million dollars. and dr anthony fauci tells the context the pandemic is not over as the us reaches 1 context the pandemic is not over as the us reaches1 million deaths. irate the us reaches1 million deaths. we ma see the us reachesi million deaths. - may see infections as we get into this fall and winter season. tonight with the context — political analyst dahlia scheindlin, live from tel aviv, and from washington, the republican strategist ron christie. welcome back. just in case you are feeling good about the return to normal at post pandemic, we have news for you. one of the richest men, now an expert on global pandemics, says it is not over. bill gates says the risk of a more dangerous variant is still out there, a variant that could be even more transmissive and fatal. so what we do with that? surely at some point, we have to get on with it. in fact, many of us already have. in most settings, masks are gone, international travel is resuming. i have been speaking to dr anthony faucl i have been speaking to dr anthony fauci. ., ., ., ., fauci. i would not say i am worried, but i'm a fauci. i would not say i am worried, but i'm a bit — fauci. i would not say i am worried, but i'm a bit concerned _ fauci. i would not say i am worried, but i'm a bit concerned we - fauci. i would not say i am worried, but i'm a bit concerned we are - fauci. i would not say i am worried, but i'm a bit concerned we are so i but i'm a bit concerned we are so wanting to put this behind us that we might be assuming that we are completely now free of this pandemic and we can move on without paying attention to the possibility that we may see certain resurgence is of infection, particularly as we get into the fall and this coming winter season. we have done extra ordinarily well, so much better off this year than we were last year, fundamentally because we have vaccines that are highly effective and safe that are available, but the pandemic is not over. we may be out of the acute full stage of it, where in the united states, for example, we were seeing 900,000 cases a day and tens of thousands of hospitalisations, and at one point we were seeing over 3000 deaths per day. that is a different story now. we are down now less than 300 deaths per day, so that's one tenth of what it was, but that does not mean that we are finished with this, that we are gone, we are going to move onto the next thing. we've got to be vigilant in continuing to repair ourselves and making sure people get vaccinated and boosted and as new variants occur, we modify our vaccines to be able to address those variants. bottom line is, we are not finished with the spend make yet. and yet we have moved on here. we don't test to the same extent, there is very little masking here in the uk, and infact is very little masking here in the uk, and in fact ijust watched the us correspondents dinner, and this was the comedian trevor noah welcoming people to the event. it is my great honour to be speaking tonight at the nation's most distinguished super—spreader event. laughter no, for real, people, what are we doing here? let's be honest, what are we doing? like, did none of you learn anything from the gridiron dinner? nothing, huh? like, do you read any of your own newspapers? how right he was, because now we have got correspondence and anchors from cnn, nbc, abc who have all tested positive for covid. they do have a conversation with the president about it? because i know you decided not to go.— you decided not to go. yeah, i did not you decided not to go. yeah, i did rrot directly _ you decided not to go. yeah, i did not directly speak _ you decided not to go. yeah, i did not directly speak to _ you decided not to go. yeah, i did not directly speak to the - you decided not to go. yeah, i did | not directly speak to the president about attending, but it was very clear that we did really everything we possibly could to protect the president. remember, he was there merely for the remarks, he was not there for the actual dinner itself, where people were eating and talking and in an animated way with each other, it is important to point out that the president is vaccinated and doubly boosted, and in order to get into the hilton hotel, you had to have evidence of a negative test that day, so to the extent that you can protect our president, we did, but the evidence that you just mentioned a moment ago tells you that this is an extraordinary virus. even with all of those precautions, we still have people that are now rolling out and seeing that people got infected, and likely in the next two days of we will be hearing that more and more people got infected. is a good sample of what you say, thatitis is a good sample of what you say, that it is very much about us. why do you think the figures are falling here? as you say, we are taking less precautions, we know the vaccine does not prevent transmission. many more of us are probably carrying it without symptoms, so is it really going down or is it's only going down because we are testing less? in other words, down because we are testing less? in otherwords, is down because we are testing less? in other words, is it more prevalent than we actually think it is? i think there is something to what you said, that we are certainly missing people who are getting infected, because people are doing home tests, the 15 minute tests, and when they get infected, particularly if they are not symptomatic, they don't report it as a positive test, so we all feel pretty confident we are underestimating the number of infections, but what is likely a real fact is that given the degree of protection in the community, eitherfrom prior infection of protection in the community, either from prior infection and having recovered and/or vaccination with booster, that the level of background immunity in the population is such that it does not necessarily protect you against getting infected but it appears to protect you pretty well from getting a severe outcome requiring hospitalisation. so if you look at the relative proportion of infected people versus requirement for hospitalisation, it is much more of a disparity that it was, for example, with delta, where there were many, many hospitalisations associated with many, many infections, so you're seeing here in the united states, and i think you are likely seeing the same thing in the uk, is that you are getting people who are getting infected even though they are vaccinated and boosted, but they are less going on to severe disease than they were a year ago with delta. irate to severe disease than they were a year ago with delta.— year ago with delta. we are all watching closely _ year ago with delta. we are all watching closely the _ year ago with delta. we are all watching closely the cases - year ago with delta. we are alli watching closely the cases that year ago with delta. we are all- watching closely the cases that are on the rise again in south africa, where the macron came from. there are some lineages of omicron spreading quickly —— where all macron came from. —— where omicron came from... bill gates thinks there is... it -- where omicron came from... bill gates thinks there is. . ._ gates thinks there is... it would be foolish to say _ gates thinks there is... it would be foolish to say that _ gates thinks there is... it would be foolish to say that is _ gates thinks there is... it would be foolish to say that is not a - foolish to say that is not a possibility for some the reason i feel we are better off in so many respects now then we were a year or a year and a half ago is that even if we do get a variance, but we have now in the population globally, certainly in the united states and certainly in the united states and certainly in the uk, is that enough people have already gotten infected and/or vaccinated that even if a variance occurs that is a bit of a sub lineage variance from omicron, like we have seen, and now in south africa, they are all sub lineages of omicron and so even though they are different, and they might be a bit more transmissible, the background protection against severe disease is much greater that it was a year and a half ago, and so really should be, and will be for this not to be, prepared for the fact that we are likely to it even more variance as the months go by. pare likely to it even more variance as the months go by.— likely to it even more variance as the months go by. are you advocating a booster every _ the months go by. are you advocating a booster every year? _ the months go by. are you advocating a booster every year? you _ the months go by. are you advocating a booster every year? you know, - the months go by. are you advocating a booster every year? you know, we i a booster every year? you know, we are not advocating _ a booster every year? you know, we are not advocating it _ a booster every year? you know, we are not advocating it yet, _ a booster every year? you know, we are not advocating it yet, but - a booster every year? you know, we are not advocating it yet, but i - are not advocating it yet, but i would not be surprised if we wind up being in a situation where it is likely, given the short degree of durability of protection, where we know that with coronaviruses, when you get infected or when you get vaccinated, protection is not lifelong, it is very different from measles and polio and smallpox, where if you get infected or you get vaccinated, you are essentially good for lifetime. mostly because those viruses don't have very many variants, they are pretty constant viruses, the ones that we have seen a decade or two ago, is the same measles we are seeing now. with regard to current viruses, the durability of protection from history, we know from the common cold coronaviruses, is not very long, so you can get reinfected with the same virus and it is particular problematic when the virus changes a little. like the variance we have seen. so when directly answering your question, i would not be surprised if we do require periodically getting boosted. that might take the form of the seasonal influenza vaccines, where once a year you upgrade the vaccine and you recommend that people get vaccinated. i would not be surprised if that is what we are going to see with covid in the coming years. going to see with covid in the coming years-— going to see with covid in the coming years. going to see with covid in the cominu ears. , . , coming years. there is a grim number that is almost — coming years. there is a grim number that is almost upon _ coming years. there is a grim number that is almost upon us, _ coming years. there is a grim number that is almost upon us, and _ coming years. there is a grim number that is almost upon us, and that - that is almost upon us, and that is the total figure which in americas approaching 1 million deaths. that is close to double the number of troops that america lost in the two world wars, and extraordinary number, and i want to read you something at oprah winfrey said in her new film. she said... why do you think that is? i would not be surprised, _ why do you think that is? i would not be surprised, christian, - why do you think that is? i would not be surprised, christian, if as| not be surprised, christian, if as we get to the 1 million mark, not be surprised, christian, if as we get to the1 million mark, you're going to see that. we are not there yet, we are going to get there, unfortunately, if you look at the number of deaths per day, where something like 980,000 or more, so within a reasonable period of time, we are going to be there. there is no remembrances as ofjust now, but i think when that cold reality hits us that we have lost so many people, i believe you were going to see some significant remembrances of that, because that's a terrible toll. i can remember in the beginning of the outbreak, when i was saying we should be careful, we could get as many as 100,000 or 200,000 deaths, i was criticised for being alarmist... i remember. was criticised for being alarmist... i remember-— i remember. and here we are approaching _ i remember. and here we are approaching i _ i remember. and here we are approaching 1 million - i remember. and here we are approaching 1 million deaths, | i remember. and here we are i approaching 1 million deaths, so thatis approaching 1 million deaths, so that is unfortunate that we were prescient, but it was even beyond what we would've predicted. �*i what we would've predicted. 1 million deaths. ron christie, dahlia, i know you were listening to that. 1 million deaths. i do remember when dr fauci was putting some of the figures on the death rate in america and he was fiercely could decipher it. nobody could have envisaged two or three years ago that this would be where we would be in two or three weeks' time. ida. in two or three weeks' time. no, they could _ in two or three weeks' time. no, they could not, _ in two or three weeks' time. no, they could not, and _ in two or three weeks' time. no, they could not, and this is something i took extraordinary seriously _ something i took extraordinary seriously, and a5 something i took extraordinary seriously, and as i mentioned, i had covid _ seriously, and as i mentioned, i had covid not _ seriously, and as i mentioned, i had covid not once but twice. and you look _ covid not once but twice. and you look at _ covid not once but twice. and you look at the — covid not once but twice. and you look at the toll this has taken on americans— look at the toll this has taken on americans and what this is done for american _ americans and what this is done for american society, what it has done around _ american society, what it has done around the — american society, what it has done around the world, and for being an educator— around the world, and for being an educator i — around the world, and for being an educator i look at my students who are devastated for having had a mask on for— are devastated for having had a mask on for the _ are devastated for having had a mask on for the better part of the last two years— on for the better part of the last two years and we as a society have forever— two years and we as a society have forever been changed from this, and i 'u5t forever been changed from this, and ijust wish— forever been changed from this, and ijust wish that dr fauci was not as prescient — ijust wish that dr fauci was not as prescient as — ijust wish that dr fauci was not as prescient as he was, talking about 100,000 200,000 deaths, but we saw here _ about 100,000 200,000 deaths, but we saw here is— about 100,000 200,000 deaths, but we saw here is a _ about 100,000 200,000 deaths, but we saw here is a million, and i hope the world will learn about what this pendant _ the world will learn about what this pendant taught us. —— pandemic. when pendant taught us. -- pandemic. when ou look pendant taught us. -- pandemic. when you look back — pendant taught us. -- pandemic. when you look back on _ pendant taught us. -- pandemic. when you look back on that, _ pendant taught us. -- pandemic. when you look back on that, i _ pendant taught us. —— pandemic. wuezri you look back on that, i know you are a proud republican, but do you think the republican party got around at the outset? and is that how it will be viewed in history? i don't think so, christian, i don't think— don't think so, christian, i don't think this — don't think so, christian, i don't think this is _ don't think so, christian, i don't think this is a republican or democrat thing, i think this is something we have not seen before. i would say, _ something we have not seen before. i would say, however, that president trump _ would say, however, that president trump couldn't have been a lot more adroit— trump couldn't have been a lot more adroit in— trump couldn't have been a lot more adroit in this — trump couldn't have been a lot more adroit in this handling of this issue — adroit in this handling of this issue from the outset, but i look back to — issue from the outset, but i look back to president bush and 9/11, and there _ back to president bush and 9/11, and there a _ back to president bush and 9/11, and there a lot _ back to president bush and 9/11, and there a lot of things, i wish we could've — there a lot of things, i wish we could've done this right after the attacks— could've done this right after the attacks in america, and he did not, so i attacks in america, and he did not, so i don't _ attacks in america, and he did not, so i don't want to look back in the rear view mirror, i want to look forward, — rear view mirror, i want to look forward, but _ rear view mirror, i want to look forward, but certainly this is not a partisan _ forward, but certainly this is not a partisan issue. we need to move forward — partisan issue. we need to move forward as— partisan issue. we need to move forward as americans. did partisan issue. we need to move forward as americans.— partisan issue. we need to move forward as americans. did an awful lot on vaccines, _ forward as americans. did an awful lot on vaccines, we _ forward as americans. did an awful lot on vaccines, we should - forward as americans. did an awful lot on vaccines, we should not - lot on vaccines, we should not forget that. did you see it as a political issue, dahlia? i forget that. did you see it as a political issue, dahlia?- political issue, dahlia? i don't think you _ political issue, dahlia? i don't think you can— political issue, dahlia? i don't think you can avoid _ political issue, dahlia? i don't think you can avoid the - political issue, dahlia? i don't| think you can avoid the politics political issue, dahlia? i don't. think you can avoid the politics of it, because we have been following the vaccination rates, and there been major gaps on those indicators in terms of attitudes towards testing and towards lockdowns and belief in the current verse between democrats and republicans and vaccination rates, and i think that, i don't want to go backwards, but if we are thinking about how to prepare ourselves for what the future may bring, the two majorfactors ourselves for what the future may bring, the two major factors that america and every country need to think about is a strong universally accessible health care system and fighting this information, and i think disinformation has been on the greatest enemies in fighting the pandemic since the advent of the vaccines but the deep infrastructure that leads people to believe this information was laid down beforehand and ethic america, other countries too, but america in particular, because it is such an outlier in the lack of health care system... just a cuick one lack of health care system... just a quick one on _ lack of health care system... just a quick one on where _ lack of health care system... just a quick one on where you _ lack of health care system... just a quick one on where you are. - lack of health care system... just a quick one on where you are. we i lack of health care system... just a i quick one on where you are. we were talking about boosters, and i think people are genuinely interested on that, if people are going to have to line up in the autumn for another shot. israel has gone down a fourth booster route, hasn't it? for people olderthan 60- _ booster route, hasn't it? for people older than 60. right, _ booster route, hasn't it? for people older than 60. right, but _ booster route, hasn't it? for people older than 60. right, but it - booster route, hasn't it? for people older than 60. right, but it is - booster route, hasn't it? for people older than 60. right, but it is much| older than 60. right, but it is much more run: older than 60. right, but it is much more gung ho _ older than 60. right, but it is much more gung ho than _ older than 60. right, but it is much more gung ho than a _ older than 60. right, but it is much more gung ho than a lot _ older than 60. right, but it is much more gung ho than a lot of- older than 60. right, but it is much| more gung ho than a lot of the other countries. what is the thinking there at the moment? we countries. what is the thinking there at the moment? we have seen our numbers — there at the moment? we have seen our numbers decline _ there at the moment? we have seen our numbers decline in _ there at the moment? we have seen our numbers decline in the _ there at the moment? we have seen our numbers decline in the last - our numbers decline in the last month, the omicron wave is really quite under control. we have 1000 new cases a day, at least those reported, very low hospitalisation rates at this point, roughly 100 per day. this is nowhere near max capacity or our fear would be overcapacity at the peak of the pandemic, so the strategy has worked, israel has been ahead or at least on the early side of vaccines, and what we do have a smullen vocal anti—vaxxers movement, it has remained fairly on the margins —— all we do have a small and vocal. we have seen uptake in the older and most vulnerable populations. again, i cannot emphasise this enough, israel has a notably accessible universal health care system based on trinity —based health clinics and insurance is available to everybody, and that has helped us get this under control —— community—based. israel has had over 10,000 deaths. we are a small country, but that is just as sad for us as 1 million americans, so everybody takes this seriously, but relatively, the fast reactions by previous governments and it is not a government i supported, really helped us. yeah, no government _ supported, really helped us. yeah, no government got _ supported, really helped us. yeah, no government got it _ supported, really helped us. yeah, no government got it absolute - supported, really helped us. yeah, no government got it absolute the | no government got it absolute the right, did they? as you said, it was unprecedented. everybody touched by somebody they lost, a loved one, and that will be a sad day when we reach that will be a sad day when we reach that million threshold. the actress amber heard is on the stand in a defamation trial that was brought against her by her ex—husband johnny depp. heard is being sued by depp for $50 million over an article she wrote for the washington post four years ago that implied he had abused her. although she didn't name him, he claims her allegations made it difficult for him to land any work. a key part of his testimony was an allegation that heard had partially severed his finger by throwing a vodka bottle at him — something she denies. so here is amber heard, giving her opening thoughts on the evidence she has heard so far. i struggle to have the words, i struggle to find the words —— i struggle to find the words to describe how painful this is. this is horrible for me, to sit here for weeks and relive everything... ..hear people that i knew — some well, some not — my ex—husband, with whom i shared a life... ..speak about our lives in the way that they have. this has been one... this is the most painful and difficult thing i've ever gone through. for sure. our reporter holly hondrick has been covering all the twists and turns of the trial for the bbc news website. all the updates are on there if you want to have a look at it other than later. holly, what have we heard so far? $5 later. holly, what have we heard so far? �* , , ., later. holly, what have we heard so far? m later. holly, what have we heard so far? as you said it is the first day we have heard _ far? as you said it is the first day we have heard from _ far? as you said it is the first day we have heard from amber- far? as you said it is the first day. we have heard from amber heard. far? as you said it is the first day - we have heard from amber heard. it is a long _ we have heard from amber heard. it is a long trial, — we have heard from amber heard. it is a long trial, so _ we have heard from amber heard. it is a long trial, so you've _ we have heard from amber heard. it is a long trial, so you've had - we have heard from amber heard. it is a long trial, so you've had about i is a long trial, so you've had about three _ is a long trial, so you've had about three weeks— is a long trial, so you've had about three weeks of— is a long trial, so you've had about three weeks ofjohnny _ is a long trial, so you've had about three weeks ofjohnny depp - is a long trial, so you've had about three weeks ofjohnny depp and l is a long trial, so you've had aboutl three weeks ofjohnny depp and his team offering evidence, _ three weeks ofjohnny depp and his team offering evidence, and - three weeks ofjohnny depp and his team offering evidence, and now. three weeks ofjohnny depp and his. team offering evidence, and now she is out, _ team offering evidence, and now she is out, so _ team offering evidence, and now she is out, so we — team offering evidence, and now she is out, so we are— team offering evidence, and now she is out, so we are getting _ team offering evidence, and now she is out, so we are getting a _ is out, so we are getting a different— is out, so we are getting a different side _ is out, so we are getting a different side of— is out, so we are getting a different side of the - is out, so we are getting a j different side of the story, is out, so we are getting a - different side of the story, fairly graphic— different side of the story, fairly graphic allegations _ different side of the story, fairly graphic allegations of _ different side of the story, fairly graphic allegations of abuse - different side of the story, fairly graphic allegations of abuse but i different side of the story, fairly. graphic allegations of abuse but on the reverse — graphic allegations of abuse but on the reverse. johnny depp - graphic allegations of abuse but on the reverse. johnny depp alleged l graphic allegations of abuse but on i the reverse. johnny depp alleged he was victim _ the reverse. johnny depp alleged he was victim of— the reverse. johnny depp alleged he was victim of abuse _ the reverse. johnny depp alleged he was victim of abuse in _ the reverse. johnny depp alleged he was victim of abuse in their - was victim of abuse in their relationship _ was victim of abuse in their relationship and _ was victim of abuse in their relationship and amber- was victim of abuse in their. relationship and amber heard was victim of abuse in their - relationship and amber heard saying the e> utto her. ~ , , ., put to her. absolutely. it is going to be difficult _ put to her. absolutely. it is going to be difficult for _ put to her. absolutely. it is going to be difficult for her, _ put to her. absolutely. it is going to be difficult for her, as - put to her. absolutely. it is going to be difficult for her, as it - put to her. absolutely. it is going to be difficult for her, as it was i to be difficult for her, as it was forjohnny_ to be difficult for her, as it was forjohnny depp _ to be difficult for her, as it was forjohnny depp before, - to be difficult for her, as it was forjohnny depp before, telling to be difficult for her, as it was- forjohnny depp before, telling the lawyers _ forjohnny depp before, telling the lawyers his story, _ forjohnny depp before, telling the lawyers his story, and _ forjohnny depp before, telling the lawyers his story, and like - forjohnny depp before, telling the lawyers his story, and like her- lawyers his story, and like her ex-husband. _ lawyers his story, and like her ex—husband, amber— lawyers his story, and like her ex—husband, amber heard - lawyers his story, and like her| ex—husband, amber heard will lawyers his story, and like her- ex—husband, amber heard will do the samef _ ex—husband, amber heard will do the same. but _ ex—husband, amber heard will do the same. but we — ex—husband, amber heard will do the same, but we have _ ex—husband, amber heard will do the same, but we have recordings - ex—husband, amber heard will do the same, but we have recordings of- same, but we have recordings of them, _ 5ame, but we have recordings of them, text— same, but we have recordings of them, text messages, _ same, but we have recordings of them, text messages, both - same, but we have recordings of them, text messages, both of. same, but we have recordings of. them, text messages, both of them being _ them, text messages, both of them being incredible _ them, text messages, both of them being incredible hostile _ them, text messages, both of them being incredible hostile to _ them, text messages, both of them being incredible hostile to the - being incredible hostile to the other, — being incredible hostile to the other, so— being incredible hostile to the other, so both _ being incredible hostile to the other, so both cases- being incredible hostile to the other, so both cases are - other, so both cases are going to have _ other, so both cases are going to have to _ other, so both cases are going to have to own— other, so both cases are going to have to own up _ other, so both cases are going to have to own up to _ other, so both cases are going to have to own up to why— other, so both cases are going to have to own up to why they - other, so both cases are going to have to own up to why they were| have to own up to why they were behaving — have to own up to why they were behaving that _ have to own up to why they were behaving that way, _ have to own up to why they were behaving that way, and - have to own up to why they were behaving that way, and in - have to own up to why they were behaving that way, and in both. behaving that way, and in both cases. it — behaving that way, and in both cases, it kind _ behaving that way, and in both cases, it kind of— behaving that way, and in both cases, it kind of chips- behaving that way, and in both cases, it kind of chips away- behaving that way, and in both cases, it kind of chips away ati cases, it kind of chips away at their— cases, it kind of chips away at their story— cases, it kind of chips away at their story that— cases, it kind of chips away at their story that they - cases, it kind of chips away at their story that they were - cases, it kind of chips away at - their story that they were entirely innocent and _ their story that they were entirely innocent and entirely— their story that they were entirely innocent and entirely a _ their story that they were entirely innocent and entirely a blameless victim _ innocent and entirely a blameless victim. ., , ., ~ innocent and entirely a blameless victim. ., , ., ,, , . victim. holly, thank you very much for that. i don't know if you have been watching it. it is one of those american celebrity trials you get the popcorn out for, it is just dripping to watch, but it is equally disturbing and we should not lose sight of that. this is a tale of appalling abuse in a relationship, and i don't know where the truth is, thatis and i don't know where the truth is, that is what the jury has to decide, but it is abuse on both sides, it seems, those who are watching, ron. it does, christian, and this is a yet classic— it does, christian, and this is a yet classic example of hollywood actors _ yet classic example of hollywood actors behaving badly. we are looking — actors behaving badly. we are looking at multimillionaires allege the doing bad things to other multimillionaires, but let's not underscore this very important point, — underscore this very important point, or— underscore this very important point, or i_ underscore this very important point, or i should say let's underscore this very important point is to allegations of sexual abuse, of violence — is to allegations of sexual abuse, of violence fuelled by alcohol, i don't _ of violence fuelled by alcohol, i don't care who you are, that is undetectable of a society, and unfortunately we have seen this is really— unfortunately we have seen this is really derailed before our very eyes —— unacceptable in society. i thing sadly. _ —— unacceptable in society. i thing sadly lives— —— unacceptable in society. i thing sadly, lives that are going to be rectally— sadly, lives that are going to be rectally harmed a5 a result of this trial~ _ rectally harmed as a result of this trial. . , rectally harmed as a result of this trial. ., , , rectally harmed as a result of this trial. . , , . , trial. dahlia, it is being closely watched -- — trial. dahlia, it is being closely watched -- this _ trial. dahlia, it is being closely watched -- this is _ lives that are going to be irreparably harmed. they are going to have to compare the professional advice from very psychologist, and the problem for the jury is that the two sides they are given by these expert witnesses, they are completely contradicting each other. i don't know how he jury is supposed to pick its way through that. i am not sure to pick its way through that. i am rrot sure how _ to pick its way through that. i am not sure how a _ to pick its way through that. i am not sure how a jury _ to pick its way through that. i am not sure how a jury is _ to pick its way through that. i —n not sure how a jury is going to pick its way through that, but it seems to me, living in a conflict zone, this mirrors living in a conflict. each side is doing bad things but only sees their side's suffering. i agree, it is strange to watch the sudbury implosion —— celebrity implosion, like both of you said, it is disturbing and upsetting, and i hopein is disturbing and upsetting, and i hope in a way, and because this is so public, maybe other couples, and i'm sure many other couples have similar problems whether or not they are millionaires, look at this and say, we should not behaving like this either and that there is some upside to the fact this is so public and so closely watched and that other couples will realise these behaviours are unacceptable in any circumstances, in any marriage, whether you are a celebrity were not. none of that answers your question about how the jury is supposed to pick through professional testimony... i don't and be thejurors! —— i don't envy. no. i know exactly where i wasjune 2,1986. it was a sunday afternoon, i was sitting with my dad in our front room, 13 years old, watching the world cup quarterfinal. maradona and the hand of god, knocking out england, it still stings. it is at, at least for england fans, one of the most controversial moments we've seen in world football. but how much would you pay to own a piece of that occasion, the shirt he was wearing? does £7.1 million sound about right? $9 million, ron. someone spent an awful lot of money today on the famous number 10 shirt. here it is on display in sotheby�*s london. it becomes the most expensive piece of sporting memorabilia ever sold, eclipsing the £56 million ron paid in 2012 for the baseball jersey of babe ruth, the new york yankees legend. no, he did not, because he is a nationals fan! but you do own football memorabilia, is that right? i do, christian, and in fact, football memorabilia, is that right? i do, christian, and infact, i i do, christian, and in fact, i cannot— i do, christian, and in fact, i cannot put— i do, christian, and in fact, i cannot put it on, but i've got my three _ cannot put it on, but i've got my three lions— cannot put it on, but i've got my three lions right here, my friend! i've three lions right here, my friend! we got— three lions right here, my friend! we got my— three lions right here, my friend! i've got my footballjersey... three lions right here, my friend! i've got my football jersey. .. i've got my football 'ersey. .. never lets me down! — i've got my football jersey. .. never lets me down! never _ i've got my football jersey. .. never lets me down! never lets _ i've got my football jersey. .. never lets me down! never lets me - i've got my football jersey. .. never| lets me down! never lets me down. i've got my football jersey. .. never i lets me down! never lets me down. is it true that a little bird tells me, that you went by the nickname diego when you were at college? is this true? , . , ., . ,, true? yes, that bird that chirps correctly- -- _ true? yes, that bird that chirps correctly... is _ true? yes, that bird that chirps correctly... is that _ true? yes, that bird that chirps correctly... is that because - true? yes, that bird that chirpsi correctly... is that because you were always — correctly... is that because you were always knocking - correctly... is that because you were always knocking the - correctly... is that because you were always knocking the ball i correctly... is that because you | were always knocking the ball in correctly... is that because you - were always knocking the ball in the net with your hand? why are you diego? net with your hand? why are you dieao? , . , net with your hand? why are you dieo? , ., , ., net with your hand? why are you dieao? , .,, ., ., net with your hand? why are you dieao? , ., ., ., , diego? this was no hand of god, this was foot of — diego? this was no hand of god, this was foot of ron. _ diego? this was no hand of god, this was foot of ron. i _ diego? this was no hand of god, this was foot of ron. i played _ diego? this was no hand of god, this was foot of ron. i played soccer- was foot of ron. i played soccer in hi-h was foot of ron. i played soccer in high school — was foot of ron. i played soccer in high school and went to college early and — high school and went to college early and did an immersion programme for spanish, _ early and did an immersion programme for spanish, and it may be the structure _ for spanish, and it may be the structure of the team, and i love nothing — structure of the team, and i love nothing more than beating the daylights out of the french immersion team and putting goals in the back of— immersion team and putting goals in the back of the net. several goals, diego— the back of the net. several goals, diego christie right here! | the back of the net. several goals, diego christie right here!— diego christie right here! i have one b diego christie right here! i have gone by much _ diego christie right here! i have gone by much worse _ diego christie right here! i have gone by much worse nicknamesi diego christie right here! i have - gone by much worse nicknames than that! do you have any sporting memorabilia of the dalia? i do have some running _ memorabilia of the dalia? i do have some running shoes, _ memorabilia of the dalia? i do have some running shoes, but _ memorabilia of the dalia? i do have some running shoes, but i - memorabilia of the dalia? i do have some running shoes, but i don't - some running shoes, but i don't finish i 20 sports close, but give me a guitar of neil young's... i am me a guitar of neil young's. .. i am not 20 of me a guitar of neil young's. .. i am rrot 20 of you _ me a guitar of neil young's. .. i am rrot 20 of you any _ me a guitar of neil young's. .. i am not 20 of you any money _ not 20 of you any money furore running shoes, that is for certain! —— not going to give you. thank you very much for your company. we will be back at the same time tomorrow. do hope you join then. hello. we have warmer weather on the way for all parts of the uk in the days ahead as we tap into a south—westerly airstream bringing us airfrom quite a long way south in the atlantic. more on that in just a moment. for the here and now, we are still seeing some heavier showers clearing away from easternmost england, but overnight, england and wales will become fine with clear spells, perhaps a few patches of mist and fog developing after wednesday's rain. scotland and northern ireland pull in the some weather fronts. there will be some rain first thing across northern and western scotland, it will be very mild here under the cloud and rain. through thursday daytime, we will have high—pressure sitting to the south of the uk. these are the fronts trying weave into the north. between the two, a south—westerly airstream, and we can follow the source of that air a long way south into the atlantic. yes, it cools somewhat as it journeys across the relatively cooler waters of the atlantic, but it still means for the entire of the uk, our temperature should be bolstered on thursday. for england and wales, one or two stray showers, but thanks to the area of high—pressure, a lot of fine weather, sunshine and up to 21 celsius. more cloud for scotland and northern ireland thanks to the fronts close by. some more persistent rain may keep glasgow back atjust 15 celsius in terms of a high. pollen levels across england and wales will be high on thursday once the sun comes out, it's tree pollen that we are contending with at this time of year. thursday into friday, we see this area of high—pressure just sliding a little further south allowing a more potent weather front to come in from the northwest. rain initially on friday for scotland and northern ireland, pushes down into northern england through the day, brighter skies follow. it will feel little fresher, perhaps, here behind the front, but in the sunshine, temperature should push up to perhaps 17 celsius again in aberdeen. cooler for northern england with the cloud and rain, still warm to the south, possibly quite cloudy at times. potentially some heavier rain friday night into the early hours of saturday crossing wales and southern counties of england, but for the weekend, it's high—pressure yet again that comes to dominate. sunday, we mayjust see some fronts trying to tip into the northwest, but for the weekend, at the moment, we are talking about a lot of fine weather, and we will still be sitting in that relatively warm air, so temperatures quite widely in the high teens to the low 20s. tonight at ten, the plight of ukraine's most vulnerable children, abandoned by carers, young victims of russia's invasion. we report from a centre in southern ukraine, with very few facilities to look after children with disabilities. because of their disabilities, they are not treated as human beings. they are only kept alive here. and it is not a problem of this institution, it is the problem of the system. in the besieged port of mariupol, officials say the russians have launched a major assault on the remaining ukrainian forces there. we'll have the latest on the conflict and the european union's plans for a total ban on oil imports from russia. also tonight... amber heard takes the stand in the defamation trial brought by former husband johnny depp. she alleges domestic abuse.

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