we saw it as he challenged fundamental freedoms of religion, fundamental freedoms of the press, fundamental freedoms of the judiciary and courts. we saw a policy that left a diapered young child dead at the border because of failed immigration policy, additional gun shootings, shootings in schools and gun violence, a failed covid policy that led to dead americans. so to say on january 6th, oh, i didn t see this coming. i didn t see a president that was willing to risk the lives of his own countrymen, of our own citizens for his own self-interest and his own political interest. and so as a staffer, as an administration appointee, as a voter, i m still going to go along with this man? that is the danger, and the only way this gets decided is not inside the beltway. it is through the inevitable presidential primary and the republican nomination process between donald trump and ron desantis. do enough republican voters decide we re not sticking with donald trump? i don t know who wins that
we ll start with vice chair liz cheney s remarkable bombshell at the end of tuesday s hearing when she revealed that an unnamed witness in the select committee s investigation with a phone call from the ex president himself. that witness told his or her lawyer who told the committee who referred the matter to the justice department. the wall street journal puts it like this, quote, the revelation can add to several lines of inquiry for federal prosecutors to ask about the riot when the evidence is expanding and moving toward people in trump s orbit if not trump himself. a spokesperson for trump responded to the committee s allegation of witness tampering by surprise, surprise, lashing out at liz cheney. we won t give the statement any air time because the most significant thing about the statement is that it doesn t actually address or rebutt the allegation itself. the washington post last night built on liz cheney s revelation
their attention. mark meadows has already been scrutinized and evaluated for his contempt of congress violation which they ultimately did charge, but mark meadows is guilty of all those things, too. were they not familiar with the conduct or were they not familiar that trump had knowledge of it? specifically what cassidy hutchinson was going to say and also keep in mind the contempt of congress charge that the justice department examined that was on the narrow issue whether he should be criminally charged for not providing information and testimony to the committee which is a very narrow thing to look at. so one of the interesting things about meadows in general is to rick s point and your points, he does seem to know everything. he is a conduit for all sorts of information and in our reporting in the washington post, politico and many others we see a chief of staff who wants to have it all ways.
surrounded him. i mean, think about what is the difference between that second impeachment hearing where you had pat cipollone defending trump and what is happening now? the key difference is that republicans of conscience were welcomed into the fold by democrats to pursue this investigation, and nancy pelosi deserves all the credit for putting liz cheney on that committee because i do believe it has made all of the difference. for too long, these republicans have been able to hide out and silently enable trump without having those questions posed directly to them. there s no way pat cipollone would have been giving that testimony had liz cheney not pursued it, put him on the spot and publicly said that he desperately needed to hear from him. cassidy hutchinson we would not know cassidy hutchinson s name were it not for the january 6th committee, and i m really interested in something that mitch mcconnell said the other day when he was approached in the hallway by a reporter who aske
of it. but nonetheless, she seems to be working at a swift pace. i think it gives us all hope this can be done. thank you both so much for spending so much time with us today. we are grateful. up next for us, a look at president joe biden s first day on his overseas trip and his stop in the middle east. we ll show you that next. e midd. that can scale across all your clouds. we got that right? yeah, we got that. it s easier to be an innovator. we ll show you that next so you can do more incredible things. [whistling] i gotta say moving in together has been awesome. so you can do more inc no regrets.gs. for you and emily. these are. amazing.