and protection. this is going to be very difficult to watch. i think we're going to be talking about that aspect of the story every single day of this trial. >> so my study of autocracy sunlights that we're having all these conversations in the wrong frame. what husband supporters, talking about them like they are normal supporters, what they like or don't like. page one of tyranny talks about the power that's given away. so it would appear if you put that lens over this, the power that's being given away is the power to hold donald trump to the same legal standard that any of us would be held to. >> right. i agree completely. i think one of the difficulties here is that many people can see that donald trump is getting away with more in the context of our ordinary criminal justice system than almost any other defendant would be for the reasons that your prior guest suggested. so it doesn't look like he's being held @ same standards, but there's another problem going on here.