to be not so much a contest of what actually happened, but whether donald trump understood what was going on here and whether in repaying michael cohen, he knew that he was covering up those payments. we'll see what happens on monday when they each flush out their cases for us. >> lisa rubin, thank you so much for your service on behalf of all of your colleagues and our viewers. thank you for joining us. miles, it's extraordinary this is where we are. to lisa's last point there, the facts are established by trump's own justice department. trump's individual one and michael cohen's sentencing memo it feels like some of this is sort of getting back to established facts that have never been in dispute. >> it is getting back to established facts. and in keeping with lisa's lyrical references today, you'd look at this case and say this guy is down bad. there are 34 counts against him.
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