Department of justice at the time. Hes also accused of lying to investigators. Again, it is not the crime, folks. It is the coverup, but there is a delay. De oliveira hasnt secured local counsel to represent him in florida so the judge asked him to return later, next thursday, to go about the arraignment. If all of this sounds familiar, thats because the other trump aide indicted in the classified Documents Case, the valet, walt nauta, twice had his not guilty plea postponed for the very same reason and perhaps youre saying to yourself, what a stroke of bad fortune. Both indicted Trump Associates somehow unable to find a florida lawyer, thereby delaying their trials with the 2024 election fast approaching. Go figure. This afternoon, there are also significant concerns surrounding de oliveiras legal fees, specifically who is going to pay for them. Its reportedly a trump pact and that raises a number of major questions that we will address throughout the hour, but first, consider how thi
statement that trump had the irs and other federal agencies investigate two federal officials involved into the case of his campaign ties to russia. quote, president trump questioned whether investigations by the internal revenue service or other federal agencies should be undertaken into mr. strzok or ms. page. i do not know of mr. trump ordering such an investigation. it appeared, however, that he wanted to see mr. strzok and ms. page investigated. kelly s statement was filed thursday in connection with lawsuits, lawsuits we have covered on this program, brought by mr. strzok who was the lead russia investigation and lisa page against the justice department for violating their privacy rights. that s when the trump administration made public text messages between them. like so much of what we now know about the trump presidency, this revelation was found, where do you think? in notes taken by one of his own staffers, likely sitting in front of the resolute desk, listening to
sake of the witnesses coordinate so you could lessen the burden on them in terms of reliving that experience. so i do think if they haven t coordinated so far there will be a certain amount of coordination that does have to happen. i am sure we ll find out in the next couple days and weeks. patricia murphy, andrew weissmann, thank you both. greatly appreciate it. charlie, please stick around. just a quick programming note, andrew s podcast prosecuting donald trump will have a new episode out tonight after today s show ends. his guest is judge michael luttig, the judge who advised pence about the powers he did and did not have before january 6th. you do not want to miss it. when we return, echoes of 2019 and trump s first impeachment this weekend as the ex-president demands that republicans withhold aid to ukraine over investigations into the biden family, believe it or not. plus, supreme court justice samuel alito goes back to the pages of the wall street journal, this time makin
the way you framed it, that this election is not over for the people of georgia. andrew, i do have to ask you really quickly about a point you brought up earlier, which is this comment from d.a. fani willis that any notion she was coordinating with the special counsel jack smith, she kind of dismissed that, saying she doesn t know what jack smith is doing, doesn t know he doesn t know what i m doing, in all honesty if jack smith was standing next to me i m not sure i would know who he was. talk to us a little about that. are you surprised by the fact that even though they are looking at a similar crime in nature, this attempt to overturn the election there is not a coordination, there is not a communication between the two offices? if not now, will there be at some point a convergence of interests and dialogue? i am surprised if that reporting is correct. and the reason is that because the subject matter of the two cases overlap you do need to coordinate on witnesses. in other wo
middle of the summer of 2023. it s a very legitimate concern and it is a completely unprecedented moment in american politics. speak to that moment for us, andrew. when willis does bring forward her charges, what are you expecting? and more importantly, the possibility that you may have two charges from jack smith and fani willis more or less about the same effort, the effort to overturn or the same crime i should say, which is the effort to overturn the 2020 election in some capacity. sure. well, i think in short order that is exactly what we re going to see with a larger case brought by jack smith and a subset of that case brought by fani willis. and so you will end up with four criminal cases against the former president and leading candidate for the presidency of the united states, a remarkable situation for our history. i think that for the fan wi