it's one of the u.s. military's most important weapons systems playing a critical role in the fight against terror. and now there's new growing concern over the computers that concern drone aircraft. they're infected with a persistent virus but it is only part after much, much bigger threat. our correspondent chris lawrence is investigating all of this for us. chris, what are you picking up? >> right now, officials don't know if this virus is benign or truly doing harm. it has not stopped the pilots from actually flying the drones over their missions in places like afghanistan. but right now, they are in the midst of an investigation to find out if any secret data is being transmitted outside because of this virus. they've become one of the linchpins of u.s. military power in war zones around the world. but a defense official confirms these drones are now flying while infected with a computer virus. >> military officials are more confused than panicked by this virus. >> noah shackman first reported this story for wired magazine. they don't know if this is accident or deliberate. >> they have tried over and over again to get rid of this thing, using fairly con conventional anti-virus methods and it hasn't worked. it seems the only way it get the virus off is to wipe the hard drive eps entirely and rebuild them str scratch. >> 150 drones can be flying over afghanistan at any moment. but the predators are kpon trolled from u.s. soil. cnn got access to kreech air force base where pilots steer the drones remotely. this is where the virus effected the secure computer system. >> in the 21st century, bits and bytes can be as threatening as bullets and bombs. >> this is part after bigger problem. cyber thieves have stolen specifications for parts of thanks and submarines. it took 24,000 military files and a single intrusion this year. pentagon officials admit there have been multiple intrusions over the past few years, and more destructive tools are developed everyday. >> the most malicious actors have not yet obtained the most harmful capabilities. but this is a situation will not hold forever. there will eventually be a mare achblg capability and intense where those who mean us harm will gain the ability to launch damaging cyber attacks. >> now the former deputy secretary of the defense says the pentagon has a limited window to securities systems. in fact the pentagon launched a pilot program to try and secure some of the defense contractors. they are the ones who lost those 24,000 files i mentioned. and whatever happens with this particular virus, almost everyone is convinced that it will not be the last one to hit the drone program. >> chris, what's the most damage this current virus potentially could do? >> in one word, from officials i spoke with, trust, wolf. it's not like this virus will bring down a drone, it will fall out of the sky. but if there is a gap in trust, if officials start to not trust that information that they're getting has not been compromised, that could start to effect missions in the long run. >> chris lawrence, watching this story with enormous ramifications, thank you. let's go to where serious crack down on protesters is ratcheting up to deadly new levels. it is not surprising there is financial support from iran. but in a very, very troubling development for washington, he's also now enjoying some serious backing from iraq. joining us now from beirut, spending a lot of time in iraq, why would malachi be signeding with alassad as he continues a crack down on peaceful demonstrators? >> well, it most certainly seems, wolf, as if malachi is adopting the stons when. that is not surprising how close the countries are and how indebted malachi is to the iranians for his current position in iraq. at the same time, though, what many are saying is quite hypocritical is that malachi is the same man who has come out in the past and directly accused syrians of being the ones to fuel the insurgency when especially notable occasion in 2 2009 after attacks and malachi pointer the finger of blame directly at syrians. there is not much love lost between baghdad but this is where the regional dynamics are more at play. >> loosing thousands of lives, does malachi really believe his relationship with iran is more important than his relationship with the united states? >> well, a lot of critics of the malachi government have said that yes, that is in fact the case, that malachi views the u.s. as being a country that eventually is going to be leaving iraq, that he has to maintain close ties with a neighbor at the end of the day. but at the same time, there is growing concern because of just how cozy the two countries are becoming and their relationship seems to beship strengthening by the day. and they do not want to see them enjoying this type of a relationship. this would not serve the u.s.'s interest in the region. this is one where u.s. officials have come out and reluctantly admitted or perhaps -- some have reluctantly admitted, that perhaps the entire invasion of iraq will result in effectively handing the country over to the irani iranians. >> we have seen more brutal crack downs, brutal violence, against these demonstrators in syria by the alassad regime. what is the very latest you are picking up? >> well, there have actually been a number of clashes that were reported over the weekend that left at least 31 people dead according to the syrian observatory for human rights. 17 of those were of syrian security forces. the observatory reporting they had occurred at the hands of individuals believed to have defected from the syrian military. we have been seeing in recent weeks, a growing number of defeks taking place. we have also been seeing violence concentrated in specific areas where those detectors are concentrated. this, of course, is a very chilling development in what is happening in syria because many people fear that this could potentially propel the country towards a civil war. and yet the defectors will tell you that virian government left them no choice but to take up weapons. because they say after seven months of peaceful demonstrations, the syrian government has made it clear that it intends onslaughtering every single individual who has dared stand against them. and at the same time, there is a growing albeit reluctant conversation between them as to whether they should all take up arms to defend themselves. >> arwa, thanks very much. check out my blog. i write about this very subject today. the terrorist group al qaeda in the arabian peninsula is promising to retaliate soon. the group finally confirmed the death to his followers ten days after he was killed by a u.s. drone strike. the obama administration under fire for killing al-awlaki, who is an american citizen. we are also learning more about a memo that laid out the case for killing him. our foreign affairs correspondent jill dougherty is watching this situation for us. what is the legal argument that obama administration had, jill, for killing an american citizen. >> well we talked with an official who ran us through some of the rational for where you would be able to kill an american citizen. so maybe we ought to go through it point by point. maybe we start with the fact that he was an american citizen, right? >> let's talk about that. go ahead. >> okay. sew is an american citizen. however, as the add menstruation looks at it, he is an american citizen who is also part of al qaeda. he is a leader, in fact, they started to use this word, leader of external operations for al qaeda. that means, according to the administration, that they have the right to go after him. so that's part one. >> what's part two? >> part two, hot battlefield. this is a phrase you will hear a lot. in international, let's say the war, how you conduct war, it is sometimes said that a if somebody isn't in a hot battlefield, in other words, if they're not shooting at you right now, then it's not fair game to go after him. but the administration would make the case that a hot battlefield essentially could be a butte kpoouter that a terrorist son, that is telling someone to carry out a terrorist act. let's listen to john brennan, president's national security advisor. >> al qaeda does not follow a traditional command structure, wear uniforms, carry arms openly or mass troops at borders of the nations it attacks. nonetheless, p has the capability to strike with notice and cause significant civilian and or military casualties. >> the other factor is he was not in afghanistan or iraq, he was in yemen. >> right. that is really an important point. because the administration would say, yemen was either not willing tore incapable, and in this case, probably more incapable, of getting al-awlaki. the u.s. has the right. and wolf, i have to tell you, it is very important that they are not making a case against every american who a abroad. they are making a case against al-awlaki. there is no broader, at this point, point. the administration is saying right now, least our understanding, there is a debate in the administration as to whether they should release more of this rational. whether they should explain it better. because a lot the u.s. allies do not agree on some of the points and would like to know more. >> even the senator from vermont, i interviewed him the other day, he was queasy about this rational. and i know there's pressure from members of congress on the obama administration to go ahead and release the legal document, justifying the killing of an american citizen in this war on terror. thanks very much, jill for that. massive government loans to this so-called green company sparked outrage after it went bankrupt. now we are learning about another green company after it got milliones from washington and it it's on the brink. plus, rick perry's new video attacking mitt romney. is it effective or just desperate? 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those are expected to come in about three weeks from now. we will have a lot of uncertainty in weeks to follow. we have seen the wild swings throughout the past two months. which is signs of an unhealthy market. so do expect volatility in the days ahead. snrs goes up 330 point, that's good news for a lot of investors. karina, thanks very much. first, a california solar panel maker received huge loans from the energy department only to go bankrupt. now we are learning details of another troubled investment by the obama administration in the so-called green energy company. lisa sylvester has been following this for us. all right, lisa, what's going on now. >> yeah, wolf. the obama administration has been betting big on green. it provided hundreds of millions of dollars in loans and grants to companies that make advance batteries for electrical vehicles. the department of energy is hoping that this brand new industry will help bring back the manufacturing sector, particularly in states like michigan hit hard with job losses. but fiscal conservatives are calling this a waste of taxpayer money and they are predicting that there will be more failed companies in this industry, like we saw with the solar panel company, s ole ndra. 1 million electric cars on the road by 2015. a goal laid out in president obama's state of the union address january of this year. the very next day, joe biden visited an indiana manufacturer that makes the batteries that powers those cars. >> we have to create whole new industries for the 21st century. >> awarded a $118 million in federal stimulus money in 2010, part of $2.5 billion taxpayer dollars no help companies. the energy department says these are the new jobs of the future. and if the u.s. want to compete, it has to help these start-up companies. >> the u.s. government needs to be in the game working with our companies, with our workers, to be sure we have a big piece of this growing global market. >> but the promise as ener 1 has grown dim since vice president's visit the stuck plummeted 95%. a class action lawsuit has been filed alleging violation of securities law. we contacted ener 1 for comment but they did not return our calls. the story might sound a little like solyndra. they received aid from the federal government only to file for bankruptcy. representative cliff stern says these troubled investments point to why the federal government shouldn't play the vol of venture capitalist. >> i think the overall concern i have, is the administration wants to industrialize using the government to control and make decisions on who is a winner and loser in the market. you cannot do that in a free market. if you start to predict who is winner and loose losers are, then you socialize this country. >> the problem for the lithium ion battery is competition from overseas. china. and the lack of customers. there aren't that many electric cars on the road. and using stimulus money to fund multiple companies at the same time. >> i think it was misguided. in the sense that russia building five plants at the same time with given production capacity for a markets that did not need it yet, was a mistake. so the whole project was misguided. >> the obama administration acknowledges some clean tech companies are going to succeed and some, like solyndra, are going to fail. >> should the government place bets, essentially, that says maybe some will succeed and maybe some won't. >> this is an issue of whether the governments are in the marketplace or not. governments are in the marketplace. chinese, japanese, european governments are all here. the question is whether the u.s. government and people of the united states will stand behind our companies and workers here. i hope so. >> the obama administration says it wasn't just democratic lawmakers though supporting ener1. representative dan burton an governor mitch dan else also on ener1's behalf. it trading for pennies, far cry from january when vice president biden visited the company. >> i don't under why they let the president or vice president go out there and underline support for the companies that may be so risky, maybe in some political danger for these administration officials. >> you know, that is an excellent question, wolf. if you look at timing on this, for instance with ener1, it was the day after the president's state of the union address. they wanted to fan their officials out of the country and talk about initiatives. in this case he was talking about the battery industry, electrical vehicles. same thing with s 0 lyndra, there is a jobs report. you have to see what is going on, on the day of the event, when they are out there visiting their companies. off then there is a political timeframe as well. >> and the same pocket of money went to solyndra as well. >> it is a different department, but again the department of energy program. >> basically american taxpayers lost $500 million in solyndra and could lose another hundred million in ener1. >> and republicans believe there are more solyndras out there. >> we are keeping an eye on it. >> i know you are. an evangelical leader is calling mormonism a false religion. so what to can dates have to say about this? jon huntsman is joining us live in "the situation room," that's up next. >> can some profit create jobs here in the united states? the idea is creating momentum. could it work? you can decide for yourself. stay with us. seem like a trumpep hollywood premise. ♪ but if you take away the dramatic score... take away the dizzying 360-degree camera move... 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>> it's unfortunate that one person is driving the narrative at the time we have 15 million unemploy unemployed. we have two war he abroad. we have failing schools, the most important election of my lifetime in the 2012 election cycle. the fact that, you know, some moron can stand up and make a comment like that you know first of all, it's outrageous. second of all, the fact that we are spending so much time discussing it makes it even worse. you give a major foreign policy speech today as i did and the questions that come after the foreign policy speech are more focused on religion as opposed to our place in the world. this does not help the american people come to terms with the choices that they have in the 2012 election cycle. and as far as i'm concerned, let's stick to the big issues that really matter and leave religion off the table. last i looked, that wasn't a prerequisite or requirement for the presidency. >> which is a fair point. i want to get to your foreign policy or domestic policy in a moment. what do you say to your fellow candidates who don't even acknowledge that you are in fact a christian. >> well, i don't have any time to discuss this kind of issue. i say, let's respect religious beliefs, let's show more tolerance in terms of what people's belief systems are. thomas jefferson got is right when he spoke about tolerance for religion and the fact they wouldn't play a role in american politics. and here we sit over 200 years later, spending more time than it's worth on this very subject. let's stick to the core issues that affect this nation and our position in the world and regaining our competitive core in the 212st century and leave the rest to the side. >> i suspect, i know you governor, that if one of your supporters, someone who introduced you at a major policy conference were to say awful things about another republican presidential candidate, you would distance yourself very, very quickly from that pastor or someone else. and you would run away as quickly as can you. are you concerned that rick perry, who is introduced by this pastor, is not distancing himself challenging, going after this pastor in way that you would probably liken. >> make an immediate and decisive break, period. this kind of talk, i think has no home in american politics these days. you know, anyone who has associated with someone willing to make those comments ought to stand up and distance themselves in very bold language and that hasn't been done. and rick ought to stand up and do that. >> even here yesterday on cnn, herman cain refused to get into this. refused to condemn or distance himself from this pastor mch michele bachmann didn't want to talk about it. you would suspect, i think, you would suspect that some candidates would be more than ready to go ahead and take that step. let's move own and talk about this campaign, talk about some of the other substantive issues right few. herman cain, in this new harvard university poll that just came out, together with college. why is herman cain doing so well in all of these most recent polls? >> well, everyone has had an opportunity to be the flavor of the week. you know, very been in this race a little over three months and we've probably had five front runners, four front runners in about five or six months. they go up and down. i think herman has -- he's had a good debate speaker. what i hope to look at is beyond the periphery. what has a candidate done in terms of leadership, in terms of leading a state, in terms of leading large complicated entities. what do candidates know about america's role in the world in the 21st century. what are they putting forward in terms of real proposals that are not just proposals for the sake of putting forward ideas but in terms of what can get done. i put forward an economic proposal that wall street journal has come out and endorsed, the best of the bunch. today we add foreign policy speech where we talk about creating a vision that is 21st century focused, based more on the post world war ii model. these are the kinds of things that ultimately will sink in with voters, first here in new hampshire. and i think the fact we are beginning to get traction in this state. i like the fact as we had yesterday and today, packed town hall meetings. people coming out, republicans and independents, coming out looking for vision. they are looking for solutions. a practical and vision pathway forward and that's what we have come forward with. >> you have been moving with candidates on these issues but people are wondering, do you regret in the first republican debate raising your hand when you were asked to support 10 to 1, $10 in spending cuts for $1 in tax increases. you went along with all of the other republican candidates. was that a mistake. >> i don't like tax increases but when you raise your hand, you don't have enough time to say, well my tax policy has called for the phasing out of tax revenue. it shows how we have dumbed down the whole debate process. where we talk more about vaccinations, talk more about books and what they have to say about social security nonsense. and we focus much less on the truly important issues like tax reform, like regulatory reform, like energy independent and like your energy abroad. when you are asked to raise a hand, you don't have a chance to explain it. it puts people in an awkward position. your knee jerk reaction is to say, i don't like tax increases, i won't allow them, like i did as governor. but you have to get the work of the country done. there is no leadership or ability to get the work of the people done. we are finger-pointing, taking cheap shots at each other. more partisan with each passing month. all the while the american people want action. just the work of their country done. >> you really went after the president of the united states today in your foreign policy speech saying basically that as national security agenda was a failure, here is the question. he asked you to be the united states ambassador china. you work for him. you work with him. if you were so upset about his national security policy, why didn't you quit and protest? >> i served for two years when my president asked me to serve during time of war, during economic hardship. i always believe in putting country before party np how for 40 years, it's been a nonpartisan relationship. republicans and democrats, we have shared interest in the u.s.-china relationship. i believe that serves america better twle is a u.s.-china relationship that is nonpartisan. when i'm asked to serve, i will embrace that and help me country any way i can. i'm a candidate for the president of the united states. our economy and values system is weak. we are not able to project the goodness and radiate the values that make this country great. human rights and free markets. this world is a better place when we have a strong core and are able to radiate those values, which we are just not doing today. because our core is weak. as my first step, in terms of our national security and foreign policy priorities, wolf, it could be to strengthen our core right here at home. to nation build right here at home. not in afghanistan. that's not our nation's future. not in iraq. that's not our nation's future. hour nation's future isn't how we can pull together as people and -- >> it sounds like a major split between you and mitt romney who delivered his own forth national speech on friday. what is the biggiest difference between you and romney when it. >> i'm offering solutions. he is throwing out sound bites. at the end of the day you have to manage u.s. affairs in the world. so far as i can tell, you know, he's taking an approach to china and russia that plays on fear factor. we need more opportunities in this country. we need more opportunity to trade. i'm calling for more trade agreements. i calling for more international economic engagement. we have two foreign policy instruments that will service in the 21st century. strong economic engagement will play back to our own core, strengthen it and create jobs. second, we have counterterrorism to worry about. as far as the eye can see, wolf, we have a counterterrorism threat. we need to begin aligning friends and allies around the twos inets and reality that will join our policy an defense spending and the way we deploy well into the 21st century. much different vision than what romney put on the table. >> jon huntsman, good luck on the campaign trail. >> thank you wolf. a debate a little more than a week away be joining cnn for the republican presidential debate. tuesday night , october 18, her on cnn. dozen he of people are dead, hundreds of injured. what is behind the blood shied? 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>> look wib think it is effective as well. in large part because there's a lot of conservatives out there that are still worried about whether or not mitt romney is a true believer. they are worried that if wince the nomination or presidency he might flip-flop again. i think it is effective strategy for rick perry who is down in the polls trying to rebuild momentum and of course trying to stick to the message that he is the conservative that can deliver on the economy. >> he has another debate coming up tomorrow. all of the republican candidates, then our cnn debate in las vegas the following week. how critical will this be for rick perry to try to rebup and get his campaign back on track? >> it'll be really critical, wolf. one of two things rick perry needs to get stietenned up here in his campaign. one he needs to show he is a man of substance and can articulate that on a debate stage. next, he has it tie up all of the little loose ends. from the name of his ranch to the pastor in dallas. these two things simultaneously are killing rick perry's campaign. what is going on outside the campaign and his lack of performance. >> donna, who lost more by this pastor in friday, bringing up the whole mormon controversy among evangelical christians, calling mormonism a cult, if you will. who did that hurt more? rick perry, the pastor was supporting and introducing rick perry, or mitt romney? >> i just want to add to will's point that immigration is also an issue that wrik perry -- i think to have this conversation once again, about the mormon faith, i think it has no place in american political debate. mitt romney addressed this several years ago. i don't think he should again. it is time that people put aside the distractions and focus on the substance of the economy and other issues that the american people are concerned about. >> did you hear my interview with jon huntsman who is also a mormon, a few minutes ago. he called this pastor a moron. that's a pretty strong word. >> that is a strong statement. i differ with donna slightly here, wolfe. i'm agnostic. i don't have a dog in this fight. but i have to say, i think a question of a candidate's religion is not the merit. our philosophical bearings. and i think to ask what a candidate believes is not outside the realm of debate and shouldn't be. this pastor does not reflect a substantive intelligent debate into religion but i don't want to step over and say religion should never come up. >> thank you. the republican chances in 2012, that's coming up. and some of libya's 20,000, yes 20,000, aircraft are missing. at northrop grumman, makthworld a feplace. th's value performance. northr gruan. i tell you what i can spend. i do my best to make it work. i'm back on the road safely. and i saved you money on brakes. that's personal pricing. running for the republican presidential nomination. but now donald trump is watching from the side lines. he talked about this with cnn's erin burnett. >> republicans do have great hope, though. i think their leadership has done a horrible job of setting it up for the candidate to win. but i think the candidates have a great chance of beating obama. >> chris christie talked a lot about the republican party needing to go back to being a tent party. one of the frustrations that some people have is that it is a smaller tent party, in part because of its focus on social issues. just this week you have a discussion over, are mormons christians and religion comes into it again. do you have any thought that they still are defined by abortion stance or gay marriage. >> i think that is more true four years ago than today. and it is still true to an extent. but i think now it is more about jobs and economy. that's why i hated to see what is going on about the whole mormon thing and because mitt romney is a good man. i think it is unfair how that came out and the way it couple out. >> you can see more of erin's interview with donald trump at 7 p.m. eastern. only here on cnn. to our viewers, you're in the situation room, happening now. the obama white house braces for the next shoe to drop on the solyndra scandal. millions of dollars of government backed loans. plus reality check on mitt romney's religion and whether it will hurt him in the republican primary. we are following the fallout after an evangelical preacher calls mormonism a cult. he was arrested in front of his own family and strip searched twice, because of this, traffic fines. now he is warning this nightmare could happen to anyone. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." right now bb within political liability for the white house is threatening to explode, possibly no a full scale criminal investigation. lisa, what are you learning? >> hi, wolf. representative tim murphy who sits on the committee investigating solyndra that he believes the documents coming out should be turned over to the department of justice fo. the new e-mail showes a major rift over the solar panel company. restructuring the 335 million dollar loan earl whier this deal and in the event of bankruptcy, that the investors, not taxpayers, would not paid first. but officials at the treasury department had major concerns that this might be against the law. in one e-mail, the chief financial officer at the treasury department's federal financing bank reached out to doe's chief council in doe's office saying quote unlease doe has other authorities these adjustments may require a approval of the department of justice. in another e-mail, the treasury assistant secretary for financial markets wrote to the deputy director of omb saying quote in february we requested in writing that doe seek the department of justice approval to any proposed restructuring. to our knowledge, that never happened. murphy wants to know why protocol wasn't followed. >> when it is taxpayer's money, you can't bypass the hist em of check and balances. where they sending signals to energy and saying there were serious problems. did energy ignore it or know about those things in why did the department of energy move forward and who sells giving influence, if anyone, on this. we will follow and connect the dots. >> as he referenced, there is another sub committee hearing for this friday. they agreed to the change in the terms of the loan that left the taxpayer at a disadvantage. and ultimately he wants it to know, wolf, who gave the okay for that to happen. wolf? >> what's the answer? >> we don't know. i mean, that's part of what all of this digging. and they have requested a lost documents. it is now commanded to include dongments from the white house. . they want dock frmt the white house tp documents from the treasury. it is to see how far up this goes now, wolf. >> this story is just beginning. thanks very much. there are now new fears that uprising in libya coon boom for terrorists. thousands of missiles from gadhafi's regime are missing. you have been spending a lot of time working on this story. i know military personnel are deeply concerned. >> they they are, wolf, as they have for months. they have acquired almost any kind of weapon imaginable. that includes 20 shoulder-power fired missiles. officials are wondering what has happened to many of them and there are serious concerns about smuggling. >> they can fit into the trunk of a car, hit a target 2 1/2 miles away and bring down a kmer recall plane. gadhafi's regime stock piled missiles. u.s. officials are very kaerned that during this civil war some shoulder fired missiles may have been smuggled into neighboring african countries. officials say they have no evidence but take it seriously enough to speak to the nato and eu counter parts. experts say the weapons could easily be smuggled across libya's six borders and from there it is ominous. they could make their way into three different groups. over to gaza where hamas is located or even down to somalia in one of the most dangerous al qaeda affiliated groups. the new leaders of libya recognized their ability to control the weapons but it is not clear how much after handle they have on the situation. so they say intelligence person frelt u.s. and allies have been on the ground in libya and neighboring countries, ram 7ing up efforts to security missiles. matt schroeder tracks these weapons for the federal of american scientists. he says one type of shoulder filed missile wab was used widely in libya and it one of the most commonly found weapons outside of government control anywhere. >> why are these so attractive to militant group? >> they are guided. after it leaves the launch tube, mistake is minimal. they're lightweight. 35 to 40 pound. >> the state department officials cnn spoke with said they believed thousands of these weapons were destroyed. many others were in the control of anti-gadhafi forces but says a state department expert is on the ground with nine contractors doing inventory of sites where weapons were stored. wolf? >> there are a staggering number of attacks on these weapons used in the years. >> it is hard it get your mind around this. 40 civilian aircraft have been hit by these things. more than 800 deaths. that's just a civilian aircraft. doesn't account the u.s. and soviet wars in afghanistan. so these things are lethal, floating around all over the place, and now worried about repercussiones from libya. >> you should be worried. you don't know where the weapons will wined up. could be in danger. >> thank. >> thanks very much. final strong hold of gadhafi's regime. we are talking about sirte. troops have seized a key hospital there in what they call the final stages of the fight to control the city. field commander roorts about ten people were killed, about 00 in this latest fight pg. president obama is calleding for restate after a weekend of major bloodshed. 25 people were killed and hundreds wounded between the egyptian army and protester, demanding rights for christians. the worst violence in egypt since the uprising that toppled mubarak. ben is joining us now in cairo. ben, you have been in cairo for years. this issue with christians who of course are egyptian citizens, a minority, is not knew thp they have been under attack for a long time but what sparked this latest round of violence against egypt's christians? >> well wbs what sparked it was, last week at kmur much in southern england was torched by muslim militants. the cops around the country felt that this was yet another example of the government not taking seriously the security of christian religion. so on sunday, there was a large march. this is planned publicly announced, a large march of christians. but also, egyptian muslims in solidarity. they came to this area. we're right next to egyptian state tv. which is the focus after lost these protests app as they are approaching. there were plain clothed men who started throwing rocks, attacking the pedestrians with sticks and machetes. pandemonium broke out. according to the eyewitnesss, several military vehicles drove madly into the crowds, killing at least 17 people. as many as 25. and of course this sparked a whole night of street battles in several parts of the egyptian capitol. the government is akiezing some christian protesters of attacking military vehicles, taking weapons and shooting some of the soldiers. of that, egyptian state tv started to call on what they called honest egyptians to come to the center of the city and protect the army and security forces against what they said were protesters. this really set off a night of violence. we have not seen in cairo since the fall of the mubarak regime. >> protesters are really angry. which is of course, the ruling government in egypt right now. the frustration, anger we are seeing on the streets, are people looking back nostalgically for the good old days of mubarak or is that too much of a stretch? >> it may be. you hear complaints about the lack of law and order. about the failure of the military to come and clean on its promises for real democratic reform, end to the emergency law. a variety of things that are still hold overs from the mubarak regime. we haven't done the point where there is nostalgia. there is ang air cross the board from christians, muslims and secular against this new military regime that has in many ways retained the methods of the mubarak rezeem which people came into the streets by the millions to overthrow just last february. wolf? >> on the scene for us in cairo. on friday, we are taking a closer look at the impact on mitt romney's campaign, after an evangelical pastor called romney's religion a cult. the lifestyles of the almost rim. it may depends on where you live in the united states. our 4 new rich & hearty soups really have people talking... 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[ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. mitt romney is getting ready to hold a town event at this hour. the new poll shows him leading the republican presidential pact by an 18-point margin new hampshire. there are new concerns about evangelical support after a pastor calls perry's mormon faith a cult. i spoke with b this controversy with the other mormon presidential candidate, jon huntsman. >> the fact that you know, some moron can stand up and make a comment like that, you know, first of all, that's outrageous. second of all, the fact thatter with spending so much time discussing it makes it even worse. >> are you concerned that rick perry who is introduced by this pastor at the voter summit is really not distancing himself, challenging, going after this pastor in a way that you probably would like him to? >> make an immediate and decisive break. period. this kind of talk i think has no home in american politics these days. anyone associated with someone willing to make those comments ought to stand up and distance themselves in very bold language. and it hasn't been done. and rick ought to stand up and do that. >> strong words. it exploded on friday. it is not going away. >> that's right, wolf. the power of the evangelical says that whether they show up or not can be the difference of winning or losing for a republican presidential candidate in the early primary states. and yes, polls do show a mormon candidate's relireligion could a factor for a third of voters. robert jeffress is the leader after southern baptist mega church in dallas, who introduced rick perry at the values voter summit. over the weekend, jeffress wasn't backing down from his remarks about mormonism being a cult. he doubled down, singing out mormonism, with other religions. listen to his words. >> part of a pastor's job is to warn his people and others about false religions. islam, hinduism. buddhism and mormonism are all false religions. and i stand by those statements. >> richard land of the powerful southern baptist convention says it is about policies that candidates support, not religious preferences. >> we do have a government prohibition on and i don't think americans should have a religious test for office. i think we should consider how that person's faith is going to apply to their government. >> it's an important question because iowa and south carolina, two states that get to weigh in early on who should be the republican nominee for president have a lot of evangelical and social conservative voters. the last time romney ran for president, he gave a big speech trying to put the religion issue to rest. >> i do not define my candidacy by my religion. a person should not be elected because of his faith. nor should he be rejected because of his faith. >> evangelicals are historically thought to have a power presence in iowa and south carolina. but even in the early primary state of new hampshire four years ago. religious preference had an effect. >> so a lot of the evangelicals were clearly going for huckabee, not simply because they disliked romney's religion, but because they liked who huckabee was. not just his religion but his place in that religious hierarchy. now competing on the evangelical vote and the spotlight on romney's religion, echos of john kennedy's events getting people off his back because he was catholic. >> at this point a catholic whose finger of suspicious is pointed, it may some day, a jew or quaker or unitarian or baptist. >> or mormon. but don't think that reluctantance to vote for a mormon is unique to evangelicals. liberal kem krats are even less likely to vote for a mrmon than evangelicals. thing is, liberal deck krats are. picking a nominee. >> this could be a pivotal week for rick perry. he is hoping to recover lost ground after a series of major stumbles. our chief political analyst is here working this part of the story for us. gloria, i got a major republican debate this week. our debate the following week. what does he need to do, rick perry? >> he needs have strong debate performances wolf. those were a problem for him. he needs better control of the facts and he needs to start talking about the economy which of course is issue number one. he is giving a speech on his energy policy and jobs policy on friday. and that could be crucial because take a look at this new washington post bloomberg poll just came out today. republicans were asked, who would do most to improve the economy? that's republicans and republican leaning independents. rick perry, back the 12%, wolf. so he has to convince republican voters he has an economic plan and thereby convince him he's the man to take on braps on the economy. >> before he takes on brob, he has to take on mitt romney. >> oh yeah. >> he has to come out swinging. >> and he will. look at this web video just released, which he really takes on romney. >> i agree with mitt romney, he's right. >> jimmy carter throwing his weight behind -- >> he will find us the best candidate. >> so the mandate question is of course a very, very big question with republican voters. >> as far as healthcare is concerned. >> as far as anything is concerned. they don't like mandates. he is not backing off of his healthcare plan. >> how is this debate between these two republicans going shake up? tz is mirror mirror on the wall, who is the most conservative of them all. right now they are fighting for that. romney is of course going to continue to take on rick perry on one issue, which is very important to conservatives, that's the issue of imfwrags. as you know, wolf, rick perry supported a plan to allow instate tuition for the children of illegal immigrants. take a listen to what romney said about that today. >> why in the world would we want taxpayers in the united states to say a tuition break for people who are here legally tp p makes to sense. if you are an illegal in texas and you lived there for three years, can you go to college there and get a hundred thousand dollar break in your tuition. >> perry has a different retort. at first saying it was heartless to not allow these kids to pay instate tuition pen now he says it it's an economic issue. we is trying to make them productive tax paying citizens. so that's his new response. >> you heard jon huntsman here in the situation room with that perry should have an obligation to distance himself from that pastor who called mormonism a cult. he was very firm wp jon huntsman being a mormon. >> if you have the other candidates piling on perry and saying you better do that. >> we will see what the candidates, not all of them, have been willing to distance themselves that far from that pastor either. gloria, thanks very much. by the way, cnn will host one of the debates. join us in las vegas. it pairs live, tuesday, october 18. only here on kron. there is nothing going on in iraq that has me earth others all fired up. we will talk about the president malachi's disturbing bed fellows sp is there what united states fought for in iraq? 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>> this is one of the great riddles and great questions about malachi. one would have hoped he would support democratic change in syria. but the truth of malachi, i think he sees this conflict through sectarian terms. it is a potential ally and he fears the coming after sunni regime that would be, if you will, against his own interested in iraq. i think partly he is making a kind of a vow toward iran because i think it is his own call. remember, wolf, he lived for 17 years in exile in syria. sew knows this characters and they know him. >> a lot of people are saying he is really cozying up to the rulers in teheran. even though the united states has spent hundreds of billions of dollars, lost thousands of lives at trying to create a democracy in iraq, yet he seems to be more interested in maintaining a strong relationship with iran. >> you're absolutely right. but i honestly descend slightly on this one. i don't think so much about iran and what iran want in syria. i think it is about malachi and the coalition around him. and his own dread, dread of what the sunni regime, possible jihadist and sir why would look like. again, 17 years are not for nothing. you live somewhere for 17 years. you form this bond with the intelligence people in syria, with the regime in sir why and this is what he is doing. >> let's talk about egypt for a moment. because it looks like all of the great hope, a lot of it is being then way if you will. cracking down and they are struggling and the people are fearful for their very lives. you have seen the violence the past few days. what is going on? >> i think egypt is the great heart break, if you will. it is the trendsetter in the arab world. in liberation square in cairo, we were hoping, if you will, everything in egypt would be rectified. there was prime minister in place. but he doesn't have all the power. supreme council of the armed force says the power behind the scenes but he doesn't assume any responsibility. one note though, about the torment in egypt, this is not about this moment, by the way, wolf. this is before b before. it has been very difficult for the to have a very normal existence in egypt. they owe it to themselves to defend in their own country. >> is it dangerous to be a christian in egypt right now? >> i think so. there is also something demeaning. they can't build a church. if they want to build a church then come the fundamentalists and think say that you can't have -- the church can't have church bells. it can't a cross outside. i these are the kinds ever things that are problematic. even if you go back new year's eve, about six weeks before the overthrow of mubarak, there was trouble and a fire set, an arsonist fire set in the church. the most sacred of the churches. this is a problem of long standing. >> is there going to be a free and fair election in egypt or will the military that is in charge for all practical purposes maintain, konl sal date power over the egyptian people. >> what is interesting about the military is they really don't want responsibility. they understand the consequences of responsibility they witnessed and saw what happened to mubarak, who is their boss, their leader. when millions of people, thousands, hundreds of thousands of egyptianers go out and chant for the head of the armed forces. he has second thoughts of whether he would indeed like to be at the helm of that country. >> i know you write occasionally for the wall street journal. i will put it on the front page today. look at these two men. steve jobs on the right, obviously. that's his biological father. his biological father, a syrian immigrant to the united states. you can see the similarity between these two men. but is a fs nating stoa fascina. this is a strange almost scary connection, tell us about it. >> wolf be on the situation room with wolf blitzer, i had a chance to comment about a pianist. i know we witnessed his parents being assaulted by vigilantes and goons. this is the same family, if you will will, biological family of steve jobs. now we understand that steve jo jobs. he had this child. he put him up for a dopgs. n adoption. as you can imagine, in the arab world, there is incredible interest in steve jobs. so being the giant that he was, the genius that he was, you would not be surprised that they are claiming him as the grandson of the sit. >> it is almost chilling. when you think about it. that story move sewed many people. we aired it here in the situation room. the syrian pianist. protesting here in washington. then his elderly parents, a doctor in a 70s, they were brutally beaten up by al-assad's thugs, if you will, to send a message to hire son? washington. now we learn this is the same family of steve jobs biological father. it is chilling, isn't it? >> you know, i was on the your set and it was hard to make any commentary about the two dignified parents. it tells us something about the twist and turns of life and then we learn as i think there was a discovery, if you will, in 2005 of steve jobs himself of who his father was and what his ancestry was. >> thanks very much. >> thank you. thank you, wolf. mounting fears of financial disaster in europe. why a monster hurricane came barreling toward mexico. putting u.s. tourists in danger. nothing helped me beat arthritis pain. until i tried this. it's salonpas. pain relief that works at the site of pain... up to 12 hours. salonpas. ♪ [ male announcer ] with 50 horsepower, dual overhead cams and fierce acceleration, the gator xuv 825i will shatter your expectations. ♪ and so no one gets left behind, check out our all-new, affordable xuv 550s at johndeere.com/gator. death toll climbing. lista sylvester is monitoring that. other top stories in the situation room. what's going on. >> authorities are working to handle the massive flooding. the region has been hit by a number of tropical systems as well as abnormal monsoon rain season. the government is hoping to purchase more than 1 million sandbags by wednesday. in mexico, not all tourists are heeding warnings to steer clear of hurricane jova. authorities are describing the category 3 storm and have opened. hundreds of soldiers are deployed. jova could intensify by tomorrow. getting a shoutout by the secretary of the parmy, john had this to say here in washington. >> i'm a little confused as to why we're kicking this great army celebration off on columbus day. frankly, i always thought of columbus day was more rave nof holiday. and i don't mean it because of that 1492 ocean blue stuff. but in my mind crystal columbus was the quintessential navy man. when he left, he didn't know where he was going. when he got there, he didn't know where he was. when he came back, he didn't really know where he had been. but before he left, he had to have three new ships. >> that's pretty good humor there. the association of the united states army is a nonprofit organization that works with u.s. military on a number of issues. that's funny. i haven't heard that. >> i'm not sure if all of the soldiers were laughing. it was a little bit indulting. >> i think it was done in humor. >> no matter what president obama may do to boost the economy. we're america's natural gas and here's what we did today: supported nearly 3 million steady jobs across our country... ... scientists, technicians, engineers, machinists... ... adding nearly 400 billion dollars to our economy... we're at work providing power to almost a quarter of our homes and businesses... ... and giving us cleaner rides to work and school... and tomorrow, we could do even more. cleaner, domestic, abundant and creating jobs now. we're america's natural gas. the smarter power, today. learn more at anga.us. so if i didn't know better i'd say you're having some sort of big tire sale. yes we are. yeah. how many tires does ford buy every year? 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? >> we're not willing to give any money to any -- prop up any of the banks or help any of the countries that are in danger of defaulting on their debt. so what u.s. is doing is using -- giving technical assistance, advice, pressure, the president is talking to the leaders of the biggest economies. this will be the main topic at the g20 meeting in france at the beginning of next month. sheer what obama said last week during his press conference. >> my strong hope is that by the time of that g20 meeting, that they have a very clear concrete plan of action that is sufficient to the task. it will have an affect. it is already having an effect here in the united states. >> whatever plan the europeans come up with, will have to get through every parliament in the euro zone. remember how hard it was to get that tart bail-out legislation through conference here in imagine trying to get it through 17 different congresss in europe. challenging. we didn't even go do it with the house and senate, let alone all of the other parliaments. here in washington on capitol hill where the senate is expected to vote on an amended version of president obama's controversial jobs bill, the bill includes a new millionaire sur tax. tom forman is drilling down on what it means to be riks in america. tom? >> wolf, there no question that democrats hit upon a political winner with this idea of taxing the rich. it's hugely popular and for months, they have said, this is what is rich. any couple making $250,000 or more, they are rich. but now, some congressional democrats are saying hold on, let's talk about a millionaire's tax. let's talk about people who make more than a million dollars because this number means different things in different parts of the country and not everybody making this would necessarily be considered rich. let's look at an example that explains this. a comparison between manhattan new york and manhattan kansas. if you made $250,000 a year, that means that each month before taxes, you are making close to $21,000. but when you take out the taxes, look at the immediate discrepancy. automatically, the people in kansas are keeping considerably more of their money than the people in new york. let's look at an average mortgage in each place. same things happens. in kansas you pay about $1100 a month for your mortgage. look at this in new york. closer to $5,000. what about healthcare? difference there? you bet there is. in kansas, $254. up here, well over $500 in new york. what about renting a car? this isn't even a parking place, which ask be exorbitant in new york city and not much in kansas. $318 a month for your car here. again, $500 for your car in new york. what about food in again, another big difference here np p kansas you have about $112 a month. up here about $187. utilities, just basic utilities to run your home, is going to be again, considerably more in new york versus in manhattan, kansas. so if we come back over here, look at what is left at the end of a month. in new york, they have about half as much money left from the same income, as somebody would have down here in money hanhatt kansas. you are totally different in terms of other parts of the country in terms of how much you are and what it may be. this is the democrats concern. this is the average cost of living around the country. above average in red, below average in green. most red areas include major urban areas which are largely democrat democratic. if you start taxing people at the $250,000 level, democrats will hit their own constituency much more gree jgeographically than they hrepublicans. that's why they have to look at why s it really fair and really going after the truly rich. >> tom foremman. thank you. thomas saerjt of new york university and christopher sims of princeton say their research could be used to help guide policy makers grappling with the global economic crisis. congratulations to the two of them. imagine you are driving along with your family and suddenly you air rested and strip searched. it happened to one man and now he is taking his case to the united states supreme court. man: looks great, hun... woman: ...and we're not real proud of this. man: no...we're not. woman: we...um... teen: have you guys seen captain stewie and lil' miss neptune? 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>> it was very disgusting. it was just a bad, bad experience. it is like a nightmare. like couldn't believe that i was even there. >> reporter: it took six days before florence was cleared and released. but not before he underwent a second strip search at another jail. after florence sued. arguing it was a violation of his constitutional right against unreasonable search and seizure. >> your privacy is so violated for failing to make a payment? failing to make a court fine? i mean, the state went wrong everywhere on this. there is nothing right about this. >> reporter: the state says these so-called intake search are justified because they apply to any person taken into custody. the purpose, protect staff from health risks and contra band and weapons. >> do you have a reasonable expectation for privacy? it seems to me when you are being lawfully admitted into a prison facility, and he was, at that point your expectations of privacy essentially drop to zero. and the importance of maintaining security rises to about 100%. >> reporter: now, six years later, albert florence says what happened to him could happen to anyone. why have you taken it this far? 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this is silent applause. the sign of approval on the other hand. >> this to show we don't like what we hear. >> to show we don't like what we hear. >> if you're wondering why the occupy wall street protester keep repeating themselves -- >> we use this human mike -- >> it's because they aren't allowed to use amplifying equipment. >> we amplify each other's voices. >> and you constantly hear them saying. >> it warms my heart to see all of you here. >> as michael moore that, the system -- what does silence applause save on? waiting for the crowd to settle back down so everyone can hear. and guess who else does this same signal? it's used by the deaf to signify applause in american sign language. other protester hand signal? >> a process. >> reporter: to signify a point of order at protester assemblies. though not everyone is up to speed on the proper direct. some of the signals could be misinterpreted. when michael moore suggested those who brought down the economy should be -- >> in handcuffs. >> reporter: he inadvertently used the protester's most severe hand signal. >> a block. >> reporter: not quite as conflicting as the confusing has not signals sent to the batter in a league of their own. the protesters take pride in not having a manager. the police have their own signals. one officer sended up on facebook giving the age