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expected to take place sometime this week. 60 votes are needed to overcome republican efforts to block the measure. here's athena jones with more on jobs bill and earth whether it ever pass. >> reporter: putting americans back to work is president obama's priority. >> say we can grow the economy as much as 2%, and as many as 1.9 million workers. >> reporter: he's been pushing the plan everywhere. at a press conference last week, on the road, on facebook and twitter, and in his weekly address. >> this is not the time for the usual games or political gridlock in washington. >> reporter: the bill would cut payroll taxes, extend unemployment benefits, give tax credits for hiring veterans or the long-term unemployed and provide money to keep public workers on the job and invest in rebuilding schools and road and paid for with a 5.6% tax on income over $1 million starting in 2013. the political stakes for mr. obama are high. no president since franklin roosevelt has bun re-elected with unemployment above 8%. still chances are slim it will pass, and even if it faces the senate, it faces a tough road in the house. >> we don't think doubling down on failed stimulus policies which have already proven to fail is the right way to go. >> reporter: house republican say the bill will do little to create jobs. >> doing the same thing he did before and expecting a different outcome. >> we want to help, that means helping small businesses grow. getting center on policy, regulations, taxes, debt, so that small business was grow. >> reporter: economists say some of the bill's provisions likes the payroll cut for employers would add jobs. though how many is in question. >> there isn't enough demand for the goods and services our company were produce. thinging things to boost that will create jobs temporarily. >> reporter: temporarily is the key word. >> the economy is suffering after the financial crisis. it takes a long time to heal, and frankly there aren't any things on the congressional calendar that will substantially change that. >> reporter: both the president and vice president are hitting the road again this week, going to two battleground states, pennsylvania and michigan, to push the jobs bill. athena jones, cnn, the white house. meantime, it's day 24 of the occupy wall street movement and battle lines are being drawn on capitol hill. movement appears to be growing. marchers on the white house yesterday. one demonstrator arrested and charged with assaulting an officer. at the smithsonian space museum, police used. er storm on those who tried to storm the lobby. the museum had to be shut down. paul steinhauser joins us live from washington. looks like democrat, trying to own this movement. republican, trying to redirect its focus. >> reporter: no surprise here. both political parties see opportunity and they love opportunity in this movement. we're hearing very different things from republicans an democrats. start with the republicans and some of the ones running for president next year, of course, want to face-off against president barack obama in the 2012 election and are traching the protest and trying to redirect the anger towards the white house. take a listen. >> some of them are there because they don't have a job. yes, but the fact of the matter is, why aren't there jobs? go and picket the white house. part of it is jealousy. i stand die that. here's why i don't have a lot of patience with that. my parents, they never played the victim card. my parents never said, we hope that the rich people lose something so we can get something. no. my dad's idea was i want to work hard enough so i can buy a cadillac, not take somebody else's. >> i went by one of the protests in washington, d.c. on friday, and i saw a lot of signs from unions that were there. so i don't know how spontaneous these protests were, but it seems to me their anger should be directed at the white house, because barack obama's policies have put us in one of the worst tailspins economically that we have. >> congresswoman bachmann and herman cain, former heir of godfather's peets s godfather's pizza. and democrats saying the opposite, blaming the republicans trying to get rid of wall street reforms, trying to keep the big financial houses in check. a little taste of what they're saying, christine. >> i support the message to the establishment, whether it's wall street or the political establishment and the rest, that change has to happen. we cannot continue in a way that is not relevant to their lives. people are angry. >> we have to do something. it's not that this is the answer, the protesting. it's just that the congress is locked in concrete for political reasons that the republicans just want to get rid of obama, even if it means losing the fiscal integrity of this great nation, and these kids are out there, they're confused as to what they want to do, but they know we're not getting a fair shake in america. >> this movement continues to grow and strengthen it appears. it becoming more attractive to both parties, both trying to main in-roads here. >> and newt gingrich says he wished they were protesting the fed, representing the failed administration and money spent that was spent erroneously, trying to seize on it and redirect it back towards the administration? >> exactly. newt gingrich is running for president, trying to redirect it towards the president, to weaken them, strengthen them. >> paul steinhauser, have a great morning. >> thank you. calls for calm this morning after hours of bloody clashes between angry christians, muslims and security forces in egypt. at least 23 people were killed on the streets of cairo sunday when protesters say they were attacked by thugs carrying swords and clubs. the worst violence since toppling the hosni mubarak movement back in february. ben wedeman, bring us up to date. >> reporter: today, right now, the situation seems to be calm. the clash, in fact, took place just on this road behind me next to the nile. now riot police have been deployed behind this building and up the street as william. the government has imposed a 2:00 a.m. to 7:00 a.m. curfew to try to prevent people from coming down here, but it's a very volatile situation, and many critics say it's not helped by the actions, for instance, of state-run tv, which last night called upon what it called honest egyptians to come down and join the army in fighting against these predominantly christian protesters. so there's a very good chance there could be a renewal of these clashes, given that many people are unhappy with the way the government has dealt with these tensions, and it's not just christians. many muslims also are unhappy with the supreme council for the armed forces, the de facto government here in egypt. >> ben wedeman reporting live from cairo. thank you. congressional republicans demanding answers from attorney general eric holder about "operation fast and furious." the controversial atf program that allowed weapons to flow to mexican drug gangs in order to track them. california's darrell issa who heads the house government oversight committee tells cnn subpoenas could go out this week. he says holder needs to explain who authorized this operation and why. >> clearly, he was overseeing an organization that let 2,000 weapons walk, knew they were letting it walk and concealed that from not just congress but also from the ambassador in mexico, the mexican people and so on, and that's what we're asking questions about. it's about law enforcements. it's not about a difficult economic time. his answers have to be about law enforcement. he's not the secretary of commerce. >> holder denies misleading lawmakers when he testified back in may he'd only just learned about the fast and furious gun program. fugitive hijacker captured in portugal after four decades on the run is fighting extradition to the united states. his lawyers say the 68 client has heart and blood pressure problems and believes he will die in prison if sent back home. wright claims he's now a portuguese citizen. accused of hijacking a plane back in 1972 with other members of the black liberation army. the clock is ticking on the nba season. legal leaders met to try to cancel the lockout threatening to cancel the entire season. david stern, commissioner, has said if no agreement is reached by today, the league will have no choice but to begin cancelling games. paul mccartney getting married again. can you believe it? tying the knot for the third time. he tied the knot with his girlfriend nancy shevell in london, married in the same place where paul wed his first beloved wife linda who died back in 1998. mccartney's second marriage, ooh, should we even mention this. >> yes. >> all right. heather, didn't turn out well. ended in a bitter divorce. ringo starr, the only other surviving beatle was among the guests along with barbara walters, she's related to his new wife. >> got married in a gres by stella mccartney. embraced by the family. >> stella certainly did not embrace heather mills. >> we know way too much about this story. >> we do. still ahead, once considered a bottom tier candidate and no chance at the white house, but herman cain is on a roll. why is he surging in the polls? our "talk back" question of the day. plus a pilot pulls off a daring ocean landing when he discovers he's out of gas. >> oh, my. how do you get a full-grown moose out of a backyard swimming pool? >> carefully. >> we'll show you. it's 11 minutes after the hour. one little smile, one little laugh. honey bunny. 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several inches in spots. we put that up there, over four inches of rainfall, where one of the larger fires was earlier this summer. so in many cases north and central texas seeing about as much rainfall in two days that they saw all year. the other big weather story, the heat. indian summer. ? have to tell you this if you live in new york or new jersey. 88 degrees. providence, rhode island, 86. and 67 for high temperature in atlanta. if you are traveling today, morning fog and afternoon rain showers across this area. carol and christine? >> thanks, rob. >> thanks, rob. now's your chance to "talk back" on one of the big stories of the day. the question this morning, why is herman cain surging in the polls? imagine a 2012 presidential race that pits barack obama against herman cain. wow. okay. anything is possible. many political talking heads poo-poo the polls. cain, they say, is the flavor of the week. something about him resonates. a self-made man who has this to say about high black unemployment. >> i don't believe racism in this country today holds anybody back in a big way. >> and, boy, does he like to work a room. >> i would bring a sense of humor to the white house, because america is too uptight. >> no doubt, that's true. herman cain has been on tv saying among other things, "i can eat black walnut all the time. it's not a flavor of the week." >> i don't mind if he calls me crazy. >> if we are not in it to win it, we will not be in it. >> mitt romney. good hair. >> really? that's the first thing you can say about him? >> well -- you're welcome. you can have i don't have an opini opinion. >> cain also has what sounds like a simple solution to our economic woes. 999, anyone? >> 999 plan. 999. >> 999. >> my 999 plan. >> 999. >> as in 9% income flat tax, 9% sales tax and a 9% business sales tax. economists say 999 would actually hurt poor people and retailers, still, 999 is catchy, as is herman cain. our "talk back" question today, why is herman cain surging in the polls? facebook.com/americanmorning. facebook.com/americanmorning. i'll read your comments laters they hour. >> a die-hard democrat told me herman cain doesn't sound like he focused group everything he says and that's what appeals to everybody. no matter the party, they can listen to him and say, he's just saying what he thinks. didn't sit down with a team of advisers and plot 45 out and they like that. >> i know. he's real resonating for whatever reason, but i'd like to know from you as to why. coming up on "american morning," score one for ron paul. more on the victory over the weekend. and blowing the whistle on medicaid fraud. exposing it and how doing it nearly killed him. it's 20 minutes past the hour. what's going on here? 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>> i got no service. >> reporter: and yet, here it is. it's billed. the 63-year-old vietnam veteran suffers from muscular dystrophy and requires nurses seven days a week just to shower, dress and replace the oxygen tank he needs to breathe. yet when he called the medicaid help line to report massive services and complaining his nurses were not showing up at all or leaving early, he was told he was wrong. >> they were getting paid for eight hours and i was just getting sicker and sicker. >> reporter: he hired a lawyer and the whistle-blower law, a criminal investigation started. are you surprised? >> surprised every day. >> reporter: this man heads this and turnsous maxim with hundreds wasn't just overbilling west but hundreds across the country. >> overgreecegregious -- about million. >> reporter: they reach add deal with maxim health care services which commented and is now restructured under new management. >> none of us can afford for our government's coffers to be bludgeoned by fraud. >> reporter: 41 states were overcharged. nine maxim executives pleaded guilty and others fired for misconduct. in a statement to cnn maxim's new ceo praising richard west 2307b for uncovering the fraud saying the company takes full responsibility and established a new infrastructure, including an entirely new senior management team and an unrelenting commitment to strict compliance with all laws. although prosecutors did not accuse maxim of compromising patient care, west says he almost died twice because of life-threatening infections he got when nurses failed to show. >> there were nights i didn't know if i'd love or wake up. and that's the reality. >> reporter: he could end up paying for his own health care and likely lose the medicare benefits he was initially fighting for. west believed he had died his death would likely have been blamed on his condition and not because his services had been denied or diminished or taken away or an infection that was the result of a nurse not showing up. so it's really very, very trk tricky but rampant. $1 billion in medicare alone. >> that we know of. those think the number could be much, much higher. frankly, there's a big pool of government money and there are professional, professionals, who know how to absolutely gain the system and literally steal from people who need this money. >> exactly right. one thing i was surprised about even in doing the story, the dollars are going out. you have to wonder, who's really keeping track where the money is spent? the task force tom o'donnell speaks about, they actually recover about $4 billion a year and charge about 600 people with crimes. again, it's something. certainly. $4 billion ain't nothing, but certainly not the amount being ripped off. but they're trying. it's very, very complicated. >> sometimes they look at doctors and see a doctor billed for x millions and millions in medicaid and there aren't that many hours in the year to actually be able to give those services. >> right. >> and this can go on for years and years and years. it's weren't of the things people get so upset about waste, fraud and abuse in the american system, because they know this is there. why can't they just stop it? >> exactly right. can you imagine how many money the government could get back if there was control, real oversight, dollar for dollar, not just task forces reactive but proactive? so enormous and immense. these people need services. something you cannot, cannot forget. >> he's ill. you don't want to fight the fight. right? you just want to be -- sick and try to get well. >> that's exactly right. get the services that you think you need. and he said, look, i was denied a wheelchair. medicare denied the wheelchair. went to medicaid. they helped pay for it. he doesn't know what was paid for, how many wheelchairs were billed. the whole thing is so big and a big ambiguous amorphous system set up but, again, people need the services. it's not about taking away from people, it's about doing it better. >> timed first in 2004. imagine. he really had to -- >> and could say nothing. prosecutors couldn't help gecht the nurses he needed to get. >> bravo to him and people like him. the dream act is reality in california. governor jerry brown signed it slew law, requiring more than $14 million a year in state grants to help illegal immigrants pay for college. to qualify, students much graduate from a california high school and been in the process of applying for legal immigration status. the desperate search continues this morning in kansas city for a 10-month-old baby missing for a week now. detectives over the weekend tried to re-enact how lisa irwin was snatched from her crib. police say the parents are talking with them after their cooperation suddenly stopped last week. the couple says they just need add break from the questioning. the floodwaters in thailand are threatening the capital bangkok. officials are preparing to evacuate thousands of people who live in this city. to date, the floods killed at least 250 people and historic hundreds of thousands of homes, destroyed. republican presidential candidate ron paul winning yet another straw poll. the texas congressman won 37% of the vote at the values voters si summit in washington. herman cain came in second with 23%. rick santorum in third with 16%. the milwaukee brewers take game one of the national championship series. hit a monster home run to get the brew crew started. and a sixth inning rally, carrying them to a win over the cardinals. game two tonight in milwaukee. game two of the alcs is this afternoon. texas leads one game to none. what time does that game start? >> 4:00 this afternoon eastern time. >> head straight -- oonch >> exactly. i hope it doesn't rain. sick of rain. and check this out. a 93 yard wedge shot for eagle. at the pga's tour yesterday. look at that. started the round near the top of the leaderboard but faded to finish seventh. molder won in a playoff. his first tour victory. up next, the lines between religion and politics. mitt romney may be the front-runn front-runner, but can a mormon ever win the white house? and when turkeys attack. what happened when a tv news crew got this turkey on camera. it wasn't pretty. 38 past the hour. i'm finally feeling better. good honey, you turn into such a little whiner when you're sick. no i don't. 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>> i'm a lifelong christian and what that means is weren't ever my guiding principles for the decisions i make is i start with, do the right thing. i'm not getting into that controversy. >> rick perry is -- >> reporter: the question arises because dr. robert jeffress, a southern baptist minister introduced rick perry at a values summit yesterday calling perry a genuine follower of jesus christ as opposed to another candidate jeffress did mention later in the interview. >> i think mitt romney is a good, more's man but those of us who are followers of christ born again should always prefer a competent christian to a competent non-christian like mitt romney. >> reporter: mitt romney is a mormon, and he has passed this way before. four years ago. the first time he ran for president, when he addressed concerns rumors and political analysis of his religion. >> i believe in my mormon faith, and i endeavor to live by it. some believe that such a confession of my faith will sink my candidacy. if they're right, so be it. >> reporter: many things sank romney's candidacy in '08, religion may have been one of them. >> you look at results in 200. he ran poorly among evangelical christians especially in the south, the southern states, nev never topped 20% of the vote in a critical vote. >> reporter: in all, 47% of conservative evangelical christians, far less a factor in a general election. for romney's gop rivals, this requires a straddle. you don't want to alienate a huge part of the primary vote nor do you want to look inco intonnerant. >> it's pastor introducing and supporting governor perry in texas who said that governor romney was a mormon is not a christian. i want to know if you agree with that statement? >> you know, this is so inconsequential as far as this campaign concerned. >> reporter: you leave open the possibility people are going to say you dodged the question, the direct question? >> i think, again, to make this a big issue is just ridiculous right now, because every day i'm on the street talking to people, this is not what people are talking about. >> reporter: will look like you're dodging it. >> if that's what it looks like, i'm dodging it because it's not going to help us boost the economy and you know that's not the number one priority. >> reporter: and that's how you navigate around a sticky wicket. standee crowley, cnn, washington. totally switch gears. shall we? talk about wild turkeys, they're making news in sacramento, california. >> oh, my god. i don't have a stick. what do i have? holy crap. i mean -- excuse me. all right. oh -- oh! ah! go on -- get him away. go away! >> afraid of that turkey. >> okay. after, of course, chasing down joggers and other passersby, a local news crew was dispatched to the neighborhood. you heard it. soon they became turkey bait. check out how this turk hey the camera man and the news producer literally on the run. backwards -- takes the post office to come in and save the day. >> ah! >> the turkey wasn't even doing anything. >> what do we do? >> one animal's attack. rob marciano is in the extreme weather center. >> that was a professional news crew out there? >> did you ever do local news? curious. >> oh, yeah. >> a staple story. chasing down the local turkey. >> it is. >> i don't no. did you do local news? >> never chased down a turkey and never ran from one either. >> listen, turkeys and geese, they can be a nasty -- but i -- a pretty big market. a better job of keeping that bird framed up. getting close to thanksgiving. those turkeys get a little sensitive. >> that's true. >> i guess their best defense is a good offense in that case. good morning again, guys. it's still hurricane season. hurricane holdup, on the west coast of mexico, a couple hundred mimes off the coast, a category 3 storm winds 123 miles an hour. gusts 150. so this is a doozy. and it's going to make landfall across western mexico. it looks like tomorrow night into wednesday morning potentially still a category 3 storm. this is going to do some damage and it's going to be very, very close if not make a direct hit on puerto vallarta and heading up into parts of texas. the rainfall totals we've seen over parts of florida the past couple of days. white indicating ten-plus inches. orange county, brevard conti, a lot of that, look at this over north and central texas. they needed the rainfall desperately. eight inches of rain. waco seeing 5.83 inches in a couple of days. mentioned the wends across parts of florida. over 50 mile-an-hour gusts in some spots including st. augustine. wind damage and power outages with this, and now, trying to become a tropical system. not quite there yet and got characteristics including some spin. tornado watched posted up to 1:00 for southeast georgia and northeastern florida. as a matter of fact, there is a tornado warning out for right along the border of georgia and florida. and the other big story, guys. i guess you felt this up in new york. temperatures close to 90 in sfots. record heat yesterday and seeing similar numbers i think today with high temperatures in the big apple, 84 degrees. fantastic turkey chasing, or running away from one. >> it's monday, rob. talk to you soon. >> thanks, rob. coming up on "american morning," how young is too young for a tanning bed? 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"talk back" on one of the big questions of the day. the question this morning -- why is herman cain surging in the polls? even inial value voters' poll he came in second place. there's so much division and the candidates are lackluster, just about everyone is getting their moment. after listening to what herman cain said this weekend about the wall street occupiers and racism not being a problem, i think ultimately he will do for black america what sarah palin did for women, a few steps back. also, he happens to be the only one who wasn't a career politician. america maying coming out from under this umbrella, most vote for the no name and vote who might be actually able to make a difference. this from demar. he speaks blunt and gives solutions. i like him, but obama is who i endorse. i still think obama is the right choice for president. liking cain. keep the comments coming. facebook.com/americanmorning. ri i'll read more later on "american morning" so charming and well spoken and such a great debater. tuesday is a debate. see how he does in this debate. >> okay. now for a hit in the '90s. vh1 is bringing back one of its most popular shows, "pop-up video" making it's re-debut, i guess, taking on today's music with the same snarky videos about their artists. ♪ somebody i need somebody >> reporter: bieber's love life. ♪ i'm coming up >> reporter: pink's middle school smoking spot and a rejuvenated song after a ten-year hiatus, pop-up video is back. debuting in 1996, pop-up video offers nuggets of video on top of music videos. it was an instant hit and now with ten years' worth of new music videos to pop, its creators have a lot to work with. >> there is plenty to mine. we haven't hit o-town. we haven't hit every "american idol" contestant, winner, loser. so the time is now. >> reporter: slotted for 60 new episodes, pop-up video mined 300 fresh new music videos from amy winehouse to coldplay. when word got out, lining up. >> everybody wants to be on the show, even though they may take a few hits. i think everybody know it's like being on "saturday night live" or being a guest on "south park" or "simpsons." >> reporter: the landscape has changed a lot since "pop-up video" went off the air. facebook, twitter, we almost live in a pop-up world. with information on demand, audiences' attention span is not the same and pop-up plans to play to that. >> we're at an age where hopefully this is more of a jumping off point where we tell a story on top of a popular video, and we throw it out to the community and the kmoocommu pops it themselves. ♪ >> here's how you pop it yourself and make it easy to pop out your own videos on a website. videos viewers can pop themselves. pop them, share with your friends. planning or showing some of the best on the show, too. >> can't wait. flu shot season. why rolling up your sleeve can be a lot less painful this year than last year. you're watching "american morning." so who ordered the cereal that can help lower cholesterol and who ordered the yummy cereal? yummy. 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[ male announcer ] want great taste and whole grain oats that can help lower cholesterol? honey nut cheerios. president obama gears up for a senate showdown over his jobs bill, but is this president fighting a losing battle? it could be a winter without nba basketball. league and union officials meeting for six hours last night. they'll try again this morning to end a labor lockout now threatening the first two weeks of the season. easing your pain. if you're getting a flu shot this year, here's the good news. it might not be at painful. we'll explain. >> yeah, right. and wedding bells for paul mccartney. the former beatle tying the knot for the third time. ringo was there. we'll tell you why barbara walters was also on the guest list on this "american morning." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good morning. it's monday, october 10th. happy columbus day. markets are open, most banks are open. schools are closed, though. welcome to "american morning." >> i think only kids get columbus day off these days. happy columbus day, anyway. for weeks president obama turned up the heat on lawmakers pressing them to pass his $447 billion jobs plan, and so far that mesh hear gone nowhere. but soon that could maybe kind of sort of change. the senate is expected to vote on the president's plan this week. brianna keilar is live at the white house. brianna -- just lost brianna. lost somewhere in the -- >> she's working hard to figure out -- >> no. i was going to say she's lost in all the political -- stuff that's going on in washington. we'll get brianna back, but in a nutshell, that jobs bill is supposed to be presented to the senate today and they're going to decide how they're going to debate the jobs bill. so that's what's going on today. brianna will be back soon. >> we promise. meantime, day 24 of the occupy wall street and anger is not letting up. demonstrations breaking out in over a dozen cities including philadelphia, chapel hill. in washington about 100 protesters marched outside the white house and police used pepper spray to prevent them from storming the museum, smithsonian air and space museum. still don't understand what the m museum has to do with occupy wall street. >> it's class warfare. some of them are there because they don't have a job, yes, but the fact of the matter is, why aren't there jobs? go and picket the white house. demonstrate in front of the white house. >> when we said everyone should pay their fair share, the other side said that's class wear faire. it's not. it's the most endearing american value. fairness. it's about everyone paying their fair share. >> more demonstrations are planned for today on wall street. and here's something else to watch out for. anonymous a collection of online hackers, promising an internet attack on the website. crash it at 3:30. the website, different from the trading platform, i'll point out. it's a website. we'll see whether they're successful at that, and you think you know why -- >> protesters in washington were, went inside the air and space museum in washington, because they had a drone exhibit inside the museum. so there were anti-war protesters that went in to protest and they took with them some occupy wall street protesters. so all a part of that and they went inside and that made people very nervous and security took the pepper spray out and it got really ugly really fast. >> couldn't figure out the connection between wall street and corporate greed and a free museum between -- couldn't fig ter out. i get it. >> so many protest, sometimes they all join forces. in this case they. another straw poll victory for ron paul. tallying 37% of votes in saturday's value voters summit in washington. the poll is sponsored by the family research council, a social conservative group. herman cain finished second, 14 points back with rick santorum placing third. in five minutes we'll be joined by tony perkins, president of the family research council and ask him why he's actually dismissing the results of his own straw poll. all right. deadly violence in egypt. at least 23 people killed in clashes that pitted christian protesters against muslims and the military in cairo. the worst violence since the toppling of hosni mubarak's government back in february. and moammar gadhafi's hometown, weren't of the last remains gadhafi strongholds, capturing a conference service used at gadhafi's security headquarters. the clock is ticking on the nba season. they met last night trying to end a lockout that threatens to cancel the first two weeks of the regular season. the two sides agreed to meet again this morning. the dream act in california. governor jerry brown signing the measure into law over the weekend that could mandate more than $14 million in state grants to help illegal immigrants pay for college. and all you need is love. paul mccartney married his girlfriend in london yesterday. married the same place where sir paul wed his first wife linda who died back in 1998. ringo starr, barbara walters, on hand to celebrate. mccartney's third marriage. her second. her gown designed by his daughter, stella mccartney. >> which means she's embracing this new bride. you wonder, why is paul mccartney bothering to get married? a third time. and the second was so awful. >> third time's a charm. isn't that the cliche? i don't tell pull mccartney what to do and not do. he can buy and sell me a hundred times over. people do what makes them happy. a beautiful bride. >> let it be, carol, just let it be. >> goodness. what happened to the optimistic story we were doing earlier? the eternal optimism. going at it a third time. yeah. jacksonville, savannah, looking at a tornado watch that's in effect until 1:00 this afternoon. reports of what could be some tornado damage just south of jacksonville this morning and right now a tornado warning in effect for the, right along the border there between florida and georgia. as far as how far the rain shield extension, spreading north towards charleston, looks like a tropical system trying to morph into one but not quite there yet. certainly has the effects of one. pounding the florida coastline all weekend long. winds gusting over 50 miles an hour. even if there haven't been tornadoes, winds strong enough to take down tree limbs and power line. also in texas, not much in the way of wind, but rain. put that on the map, because that's where they had a bad wildfire earlier in the summer. 6 inches of rain. fort worth, over four inches of rainfall and as much rain as they've seen all year long. we'll take it for sure. meanwhile, newark, 88 degrees yesterday. boston, massachusetts, seeing a high temperature of 87 degrees. all record highs for the day. 86 degrees for a high temperature yesterday in providence and hartford, connecticut, into the 80s, even as far north as maine. continue to be warm today. cold front weak and making its way off to the east. this storm system down south a stronger one and pacific northwest a rainmaker rolling into that area. while all the warmth was happening across the northeast, ski resorts were opening in places like las vegas, and wolf creek, colorado, and some of those spots, earliest they've ever seen and we're off to it already. 74 degrees, high temperature in kansas city. 84 degrees in new york city and one note, hurricane hova, a tropical storm, or a hurricane of category 3 strength, with winds of 120 miles an hour, and the forecast for this major storm is to bring it towards puerto vallarta, and doing damage as well and will bring rains into north mexico and potentially into texas also. if you are traveling today in atlanta, maybe delays because of rain. san francisco, morning rain and fog and seattle and portland, to a lesser extent, airport delays there. >> thanks, rob. trying to act more optimistic now. i really am. a closer look at the values voter summit in washington held by the family research council. that's a social conservative group. and the weekend got off to a rousing start on friday night when a prominent texas pastor criticized mitt romney and his mormon faith why introducing texas governor rick perry. >> the southern baptist convention which is the largest protestant denomination officially labeled mormonism as a cult. i think he's a good, moral man bun those of us who are born-again followers of christ should always prefer a competent christian to a competent non-christian like mitt romney. >> joining us from indianapolis to talk more about reverend jeffress' remarks and ron paul's victory in the value voters straw poll, tony perkins. welcome. >> good morning, carol. >> mitt romney did not fare well at this summit. not only was his religion called a cult, he did not fare well in the value voters straw poll. last time around he actually won. this year the winner was ron paul? i mean, ron paul is not exactly well known as a christian conservative. >> well, first off, those comments by pastor jeffress were not said from the stage. it was a side bar conversation he had with pastors. or rather with reporters, and this -- has we're doing here is, i don't want to go also the fact there are theological differences between evangelicals and mormons, but certainly wa not the focus of the values summit and we're not trying to build a national church. we're trying to build a coalition across this country based on values. mitt romney articulated those values this year. he's not been working them as hard as four years ago, which is reflective in the poll. ron paul -- let me say this. over 3,000 people registered for the event. over 600 showed up saturday morning just to hear ron paul's speech. vote for him, and then leave. i think -- i don't want to take away the credit due that organization, that campaign for,ing, getting people out of bed early on a saturday morning. i wish i could get my kids out of bed that early, but they came down, they voted, they left. i don't think ron paul is truly reflective of what value voters stand. >> you're saying your own poll results don't mean anything? >> well, no. i actually say, you know -- when you look at statistics, statisticians look for outliaou in the poll. michele bachmann, rick perry, more reflective of the other polls and what's happening in the social conservative community. >> so ron paul probably means nothing, but herman cain does? >> well -- >> this -- majority of people came there for the weekend for a summit, to hear all of the candidates. they didn't come there to support a particular candidate. they came to listen to the candidates and express their preference. ron paul bused in over 600 people saturday morning not to attend the conference, just to hear his speech and vote. they all paid their registration fees. it's an open invitation. anybody can come, but individuals have to register and they did that. the campaign tried to buy blocks of tickets early. we refused to sell them brocks. blocks of tickets. i give them credit for being organized. like we're seeing on wall street and other parts of the country, we should not discount there is a lot are discontent with big ineffective government that's taking place in the country and the ron paul campaign reflects that. you can't write it off saying it's not important. the message the campaign is sending is something other campaigns have to listen to as well. >> i wanted to talk a little more about herman cain because, as you said, he did well at the values voters summit. came in second, we've been talking about that. he also told the christian broadcasting network that god has play add role in his success. and has been guiding him since the start of his campaign. i wanted to get your thought on other comments that herman cain has made. let's listen. >> if you are envious of somebody that happens to be rich, that you call a fat cat, go and get rich instead of expecting them to walk outside of their office and write you a check. that's not the way america works. work for it. >> and, of course, herman cain was talking about those protesters taking part in occupy wall street. some might believe those aren't very christian beliefs? >> i haven't read the words fat cat in the bible, but the principle is there. he is a success story. if you look at his life, how he has grown up and how he was successful in the business world and those principles of hard work, of faith, of following the teachers of scripture and jesus christ. he is an example of that, and i think it's reflective in this success. this was not the first time he's been to the values voters site. he's been there before and has always got a very warm reception. the reception he got this time was overwhelming. he had people on their feet because he give a great speech, and you know, i think there's something to be said about his results in his straw poll i. guess what i'm centering, on economy is in a mess. there are people who cannot find jobs, because we have a 9.1 unemployment rate, and big companies aren't hiring. so to say that people are out there protesting, because they're not working hard enough, or they're not trying hard enough to find a job, or their envious of others who have jobs is -- is that wrong or right jt? >> i think in talking to herman and listening to his in the broader context, what he's talking about is really a mind-set driven in washington, d.c. that somehow government is going to create jobs by telling businesses to hire people. it doesn't work that way, and he knows that. because he did that. what you do is, you create an environment that fosters economic growth so businesses can hire, by limiting regulations, lowering the taxes, and i think what he's saying is there's a mind-set somehow businesses owe people an opportunity or owe them a job. look, this is the land where you create opportunity, and he created opportunity for himself, and that message is resonating with people. >> as far as your organization, and you personally are concerned, how would you characterize the people protesting on wall street? >> i think that our leaders in this nation need to pay close attention to what is happening, because i think there is growing discontent, on both sides of the political spectrum. you have the tea parties, you have these demonstrations on wall street, but when you combine it all together, america is a very divided country. and there's policies that continue to divide us even further. and we've got to bring the country together, but we've got to do it by getting government under -- government spending under control that is damaging our economy, and the ability to give people opportunities in jobs, by allowing business to do what business does. >> and just one more question about these protesters. do they have a point when they point to wall street? can you see their point? >> well, i think when you look at the overall culture and what happened on wall street and big business a few years ago, look, i am a strong supporter of capitalism. i think it is the -- it is the best approach to growing an economy, but capitalism guided by morality, and when we have a breakdown in morality, capitalism go awry, and we've seen that in recent years. so morality is a part of this discussion. that's why we say, when we talk about creating jobs we cannot -- we cannot avoid the values issues, because we don't want capitalism unbridled by morality. >> tony perkins, thanks so much for being here with us this morning. we appreciate it. >> thanks, carol. >> wow. a great conversation. in the bible there are so many interesting and famous phrases. many contradictory, of course, one is, it's easy for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter the kingdom of heaven. they don't say fat cats, but plenty of parables nonetheless. still this morning, young adults aging out of foster care now getting the help they need to find a job, to change their future and create a new one. i'll have that story for you. fore! no matter what small business you are in, managing expenses seems to... get in the way. not anymore. ink, the small business card from chase introduces jot an on-the-go expense app made exclusively for ink customers. custom categorize your expenses anywhere. save time and get back to what you love. the latest innovation. only for ink customers. learn more at chase.com/ink did you know there are more than 400,000 kids in the u.s. foster care system? about 30,000 age out of the system every year and suddenly faced with having to find work to support themselves. as you know, though, jobs are scant. competition is tight. now there are a handful of new programs helping these young adults get ready for the working world. >> reporter: raven prophet was 15 when she entered foster care after her mother was diagnosed with schizophrenia. she knows how difficult it can be for foster children to think about the future let alone a career. >> the family don't have role models or parents to look up to and actually gain advice from or how to put together a resume or how to conduct themselves in an interview. >> reporter: she's now a student at the university of albany studying biology and women's studies and wants to be a role model for other foster children. she's a youth ambassador fo for career work shops like this one. a three-state study found former foster care youth are more than three times an likely not to have a high school diploma or ged and let likely to earn a college degree and more likely to end up on the government roles. three quarters women, one quarter of men aged out of foster care receive food stamps and housing assistance. it's a tough role to break. for those young adults who age out of the system, suddenly being on their own can be difficult. >> right now i'm actually -- i need a job. i need to be financially stable at the moment. >> reporter: tom hilliard is the author of a new study on employment and former foster children saying these kids need mentoring and jobs programs. >> any teenager who gets into a difficult work situation could just say, the heck with this, and then walk out. but what if you knew that you were going to be taken care of, and nobody was going to stay with you about that? you're more likely to walk out. aren't you? >> reporter: mentors raven met in her early teens put her on the right track and that's why she wants to help others. >> i was blessed to have a great support system and i feel like that's important, vital to youth in foster care. >> rave prophet is an inspiration. paying it forward to help other kids. many attended this career work shop sponsors by bny mellon. for more on careers for teening and young adults, check out all of this in my book. carol, so difficult. because when the economy is thriving, more opportunities for everyone. i've been seeing in my reporting, circles of people closing in and helping each other trying to get skills to have a little more competitive advantage. it's helping for some people. like raven, it's really working. >> right now it's the only thing that will work if we draw together and actually help one another instead of protesting against one another. still to come this morning, a desperate search goes on for a 10-month-old girl snatched from her crib. we're live in kansas city, just ahead. in america, we believe in a future that is better than today. since 1894, ameriprise financial has been working hard for their clients' futures. never taking a bailout. helping generations achieve dreams. buy homes. put their kids through college. retire how they want to. ameriprise. the strength of america's largest financial planning company. the heart of 10,000 advisors working with you, one-to-one. together, for your future. ♪ delivering mail, medicine and packages. yet they're closing thousands of offices, slashing service, and want to lay off over 100,000 workers. the postal service is recording financial losses, but not for reasons you might think. the problem ? 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"minding your business." it's columbus day here in the u.s., but markets and most banks are still open for business. the focus remains on europe's banking crisis and efforts by france and germany to contain it. right now u.s. futures point to a higher open this morning because european markets are leading the way higher after german chancellor angela merkel and french president nicklaus czar cozy said sunday they've come up with a plan to fix the euro zone. part of that plan includes recapitalization of some of the eu's biggest plans. and wondering if naturalization could be the answer to the crisis. especially after dexia secured a bailout from the french and luxembourg banks. never heard of the bank dexia? significant to you because in the u.s., dexia has been a big backer of many local u.s. government bonds and loans. gas prices are dropping. in the past month the average price down 24 cents. the main reason, of course, decreasing oil prices. as of this morning, the national average is $3.42 a gallon. sony reportedly bought the rights to make the authorized biography of steve jobs into a movie. this is a cording to the "new york times." the book titled "steve jobs" by walter isakson is set to be released october 24. check out the all-new cnnmoney.com for more. 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>> well, this is kind of the -- the part of the story that has really overshadowed the tragedy that is the disappearance of 10-month-old lisa irwin. on thursday, kansas city police had come out and talked how the parents were no longer cooperating with investigators in a series of interviews with morning shows last week, the parents of lisa irwin talked about how they had kind of been tired of the gruelingness of those interviews with investigators. her mother had actually said that police told her she had failed a lie detector test. we've spoken with several family members over the weekend and got the sense from them they are tired of just sitting there in that police station undergoing the grilling from authorities. they wanted to figure out another way of being able to help them. what we got from family members. however, all of that overshadow wasn't until saturday night the family finally started meeting again with investigators. we understand they met saturday night and also met on sunday as well as other family members fanned out across the area passing out flyers for lisa irwin, but this is really -- that drama between the parents and the police detectives overshadowed the tragedy that is the story that we are now a week into the vanishing of little lisa irwin. disappeared from this home yesterday afternoon. investigators came back out to this house. seen crawling -- this window on the edge of the house. investigators crawling through that window trying to re-create what they believe might have happened here when lisa irwin vanished last week. as you mentioned off the top, real story is despite the drama between the parents and investigators, police admit they have no leads where lisa erwi i >> they think the baby was taken through this window. are they says it's an abduction? maybe why interrogations were so grueling, the first step is to really rule occupant the family? >> reporter: absolutely. and investigators will tell you that, look, when you have no leads like that, everything is on the table. and that's what they have told us here over the last few days. every possibility, every scenario is on the table. they've didn't searching with metal detectors throughout the yard and in areas throughout this neighborhood. there are many, many different scenarios that might be on the table, possible explanations, and obviously, the first one that they look at most intensely is the parents. especially the mother. the one home with the children when that happened. the father was working and overnight shift as an electrician. he was the one that discovered lisa irwin was no longer in her crib. as i mentioned, the could bes say they have no leads, they have no idea what could have happened in this case. so everything and every possibility is on the table. >> ed lavandera, thank you so much, ed. now's your chance to "talk back" on one of the big stories of the day. the question this morning -- why is herman cain surging in the polls? imagine a 2012 presidential race that pits barack obama against herman cain? wow. anything is possible. many political talking heads poo-poo this. he had this to say. >> i don't believe racism in this country today holds anybody back in a big way. >> and, boy, does he like to work a room. >> i would bring a sense of humor to the white house, because america is too uptight. >> hey, no doubt that's true. herman cain's been on tv saying among other things "i can eblack walnut all the time." it's not a flavor of the week. >> i don't mind if they call me crazy. >> if we are not in it to win it, we will not be in it. >> mitt romney. good hair. >> really? that's the first thing you can say about him? >> i don't have an opinion. thank you very much. >> cain also has what sounds like a simple solution to our economic woes. 999, anyone? >> 999 plan. >> 999 plan. 999. >> 999. >> my 999 plan. >> 999. >> as in 9% income flat tax, 9% sales tax and a 9% business sales tax. economists say 999 would hurt poor people and retailers, still, 999 is catchy, as is herman cain. our "talk back" question today, why is herman cain surging in the polls? 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(laughing) yeah. get $100 rebate when you buy four tires. 100 bucks! only at your ford dealer. 3 million tires. 11 major brands, fiona's kind-of-nice. i don't know why you're not here. welcome back. there's a lot of uncertainty when it comes to the global economy. we don't need to tell thaw. right? the fuel that runs the global company, oil, has seen prices rise to record prices earlier in the year and then fall dramatically again. joining me to talk about the shift in prices and whether the world's at risk of running out of oil, daniel, author of "the quest: energy security and the remaking of the modern world." your book is prized as really a guide to the economy and how it is driven by this commodity that is oil. the quest, equally large and consuming book about oil and i wanted to ask you, five years now, sir, you've been writing this book. a lot has changed in the world in five years. hasn't it? >> everything from the rise of china and return of the electric car to the terrible nuclear accident in fukushima japan and this arab spring that continues to unfold. >> let me ask you about china. it barely got a mention in the prize and so much has changed. two full chapters in "the quest." tell me about china and the way china scours the globe for natural resources in a way that's different than other developing countries do and what kind of challenge that may be for the yinchts two things. one is china is so big and growing so fast. the chinese are very pre-occupied with their need for energy and looking at everything from oil to renewable energy and certainly they're out in the world now seeking to be a major oil power along with the united states and europe. and in some parts of the world they are very active. i don't think it means there's a collision between the two countries, but it's something we have to watch carefully. >> also i think it's a reminder that the united states needs to have multiple sources of energy. right? i mean, you've got, as much oil as there is that we can get, and you can debate whether we've seen the peak in oral or not. no question we're consuming more energy and the world is consuming more energy. what does that mean for the u.s. and its strategy to try to diversify a little bit? look for example at solar. the united states get into that and the controversial china's already spent hundreds of millions, putting american businesses out of work? >> the chinese have great competitiveness in terms of manufacturing. it's not just about oil but covers a whole energy spectrum to see how they fit together. the bake resource is as you say, energy security, the wealthing of our economy depends upon a diversifying source of energy sources and not thinking there's just one silver bullet out there. >> a little bit of everything. we need oil, natural gas, renewables. right? electric vehicles. talking about this again. tell me, draw the -- draw the threat around all of these things and what we need to do to have a viable economy in such an uncertain world? >> in the case of the united states it's very interesting. i think actually our oil consumption is going to go down because for a number of reasons. actually, our imports are down, because we've kind of reached the peak level of oil use and can you only drive one car at a time basically and our car fleets, we get more efficient. we see this electric car. one thing that ties it all together, being more efficient how we use the energy sources and promote innovation across the energy spectrum. weren't of the really surprising things is actually to see the u.s. oil production is going up, which most people expect it would never happen again, and our imports are actually going down, which is good news for the united states, and our economy. >> talk to me a little about the arab spring. this is a region of the world where i think 60% of proven reserves are right there in the lands consumed by the arab spring, yet you've got prices that -- gas and oil prices actually doing down. explain that to me. >> in the short term what's happening is that the price of oil is really responding to what's happened to the world economy, and the expectations of a slower economy and indeed the slowdown we're seeing in europe and even the kind of delays in our economy today. but as you point out, 60% of world oil reserves are still concentrated in the middle east, and what the arab spring, we're now into autumn, but the arab spring has brought many changes which are still to unfold. weren't of the things its done is the strategic balance that underpins the stability in the northeast and that will be reflected and continue to be reflected in the price of oil as we go forward in the future. in other words, a higher uncertainty. >> the book called "the quest." it's 800 peaches of must-read. thank you, sir. nice to see you. >> thank you. still to come this morning, if needles make you squeamish, have we got at flu shot for you. medical correspondent elizabeth cohen has details. and today the "romans' numeral," $49.909. a hint, the recession's toll on your piggy bank. it's 44 minutes after the hour. hi. i'm christina aguilera and we can make an impact on world hunger. after i had my son max i realized this was a huge issue and went on a trip to guatemala and saw women and children living in dirt huts that have nothing. it's so crucial and vital for these people to get nutrition. haiti was devastating, because of the earthquake. i got it meet so many young people that were just so eager to learn and to see they're faces light up. every child deserves the chance to dream and to hope. join the movement. impact your world. go to cnn.com/impact. an airline has planes and people. and the planes can seem the same. so, it comes down to the people. because: bad weather, the price of oil those are every airline's reality. and solutions will not come from 500 tons of metal and a paintjob. they'll come from people. delta people. who made us the biggest airline in the world. and then decided that wasn't enough. ♪ got so many scratches and scars ♪ ♪ maybe time can mend us together again ♪ ♪ it's not what we've done but how far we've come ♪ ♪ i know that we will recover [ male announcer ] here when you need us most. 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"american morning" back in 60 seconds. all right. this morning's rume an numeral, a number in the news today that, number is $49,909. a bench marc below $50 k the median household income between june 2009 and june 2011. in the two years following the recession, household income fell 6.7%. after the recession, it fell more than during the recession. it's a story a lot of people are talking about today in. "new york times." if you follow me you can see i just put a link in there. let's talk about flu shots. that always perks people up, doesn't it? >> from household income to getting a shot. >> this is a better kind of shot. for people who hate needles, and you know who you are, there's a new option for you. getting that flu shot this year. >> withhold the pain. one thing that's so interesting about getting a shot, they always say, ok, this is going to feel like a bee sting. a bee sting really hurts. and this is actually worse. elizabeth cullen, will it feel like a bee sting or will it not hurt this time? >> i haven't been stung by a bee in so long, i couldn't make that comparison. i got my flu shot here at work two days ago, and it's such a big nothing. and we should be happy. we should celebrate flu shots, it really should, because that means we won't get sick and some of us won't die. that is a wonderful thing. and something more to celebrate. this is your traditional flu shot. you see how long? that's pretty long and pointy. that's the traditional one. there's a new one that is out this year. this will make you happier. you can't even see the needle, i bet, when i show you this. it is so small, i can barely see it, and it's right in front of my nose. it is about the length of this needle is about the width of a quarter. it only goes into your skin. it doesn't go into your muscle. it is obviously less painful that the long one in my right hand. it's not available everywhere. they didn't make that many for this season. but is something that will continue to be available, and hopefully in larger numbers. less painful, works just as well. >> ok. >> only elizabeth cohen goes to work with needler in her purse, right? >> i have a syringe with me. what about the nasal spray? doesn't that work? >> i have that too. i can even spray a little. there it is. i don't know if you can see that. but there's the mist. and this is also a flu vaccine. there are a couple of limitations on this, however. you can't use it if you're under age 2. you can't use it if you're over age 49. you can't use it if you have diabetes or asthma. and that's because the vaccine in here is actually live, whereas the vaccine in the shot is dead. so this is, you know, a great alternative for someone who wants it. it might cost you more. that's one consideration. whereas the shot is, you know, pretty much anyone can take it. >> ok. well, at least they have that new shorter needle. >> thanks, elizabeth. >> we appreciate it. we asked to you talk back on one of the big stories. why is herman cain surging in the polls? this from erin. keep the comments coming. facebook.com/americanmore thanning. we'll read more later in the 8:00 hour. >> so much further to go. bill clinton 20 years ago didn't declare until october. and you think of how much politicking we have already had to this point. we have all of next year to go through as well. so it will be interesting to see what the polls tell us about the way people think. >> and remember, rick perry surged, and where is he now? at one point, michele bachmann was considered surging. where is she now? so we'll see if the same thing happens to herman cain. but he seems to be quite popular at the moment. >> yeah. still to come this morning -- president obama steps up pressure on congress to pass that jobs plan. but will congress sign off on any part of this, let alone the whole thing? plus, mitt romney's religion has become the talk of the campaign trail. will it hurt his chances of winning? you're watching "american morning." it's five minutes to the top of the hour. 4g-- the next evolution in wireless technology. with advanced power, the verizon 4g lte network makes your business run faster: smartphones, laptops, tablets, mobile hotspots. but not all 4g is created equal. among the major carriers, only verizon's 4g network is 100% lte, the gold standard of wireless technology. and while other carriers may have limited lte 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from school, but you still have to work. >> that's right. welcome to "american morning." for weeks now, president obama has turned up the heat on lawmakers, pressing them to pass his $447 billion jobs plan. so far, that measure has gone nowhere. but soon that could all change. the senate is expected to vote on the president's plan this week. good morning. >> reporter: hi, good morning. this is a big week, politically more than anything for the president's jobs plan. and that's because while there is expected to be a vote in the senate tomorrow, tomorrow in the evening, i'm told, it seems unlikely at this point that the jobs plan -- the president's jobs plan would pass. but you still hear him very much pushing, urging congress to pass his bill in its entirety. here's what he said over the weekend in his address. >> some see this as class warfare. i see it as a simple choice. we can either keep taxes exactly as they are for millionaires and billionaires, sore we can ask them to pay at least the same rate as a plumber or a bus driver. and in the process, we can put teachers and construction workers and veterans back on the job. >> reporter: so just a reminder for everyone out there what the president is proposing in his plan, which is just under about $500 billion. it would include a cut to payroll taxes. for employees so they would have more money in their pocket, but also for employers. the idea being here put more money in the pockets of employers in the hopes to create jobs. also extending unemployment benefits, and there would also be tax credits for increasing the wages or hiring unemployed vets or the long-term unemployed, folks who have been unemployed for some time. and of course, carol and christine, there's also infrastructure spending in this package. we'll be seeing president obama on the road again tomorrow in pittsburgh touting this plan. >> and also provisions in there to make it illegal to discriminate against people who don't have a job. right now, you can put out an ad saying, you know, we only want to consider people for this job who currently have a job. and let me ask you this. you used to work on capitol hill. how do you see this vote playing out tomorrow, if indeed already people are saying it won't pass? >> reporter: the expectation is that it's not going to, because we always talk about the 60-vote threshold in the senate. the expectation is is that senate democrats will be on board, maybe not all of them. and senate republicans for the most part will not be onboard, and this is very much a political strategy. because you have seen congressional democrats in the white house, what they want to do is say republicans are for protecting the wealthy, for protecting millionaires, because there's a provision in this bill that would pay for this big jobs plan by taxing -- increasing taxes on people who earn in total $1 million or more per year. you have republicans saying this is bad for the economy right now. but this is the message that is being set up ahead of this vote. and then the bottom line after that, after this vote is expected to fail, is then congress, the idea would be they'd have to -- democrats and republicans find the areas that they can find the areas that they can compromise on and pass it in a piecemeal fashion. but president obama will say he's not satisfied with that, he wants the whole thing. and this is going to be a big political fight. >> thank you, briana. it is day 24 of the occupy wall street movement, and the anger is not letting up. protests spreading across the country. demonstrations breaking out this weekend in chicago, austin, philadelphia, and chapel hill, among others. in washington, about 100 protesters marched outside of the white house. a number of groups have been demonstrating in d.c. over the past week. a group arrived at the smithsonian air and space museum over the weekend to protest a drone exhibit. some of the demonstrator has an anti-war message. others were affiliated with occupy d.c., a group modelled on the occupy wall street protests. police used pepper spray to stop demonstrators from storming the lob lobby. on capitol hill, battle lines are being drawn. democrats embracing the movement, while republicans are rejecting it. >> it's class warfare. some of them are there because they don't have a job. yes. but the fact of the matter is, why aren't there jobs? go and picket the white house. demonstrate in front of the white house. >> when we said that everyone should pay their fair share, the other sides there's class warfare. no, it's not. it's the most endearing american value, fairness. it's about everyone paying their fair share. >> more demonstrations are being planned today on wall street. and here's something else to watch out for today. anonymous, a collection of online hackers, promising a coordinated internet attack on the new york stock exchange website, threatening to crash it this afternoon at 3:30 p.m. eastern. mitt romney's religion is becoming a hot topic on the campaign trail. the former massachusetts governor is mormon, and he's not about to apologize for it. but some political analysts believe it may prove to be a big obstacle in his quest for the white house. here's state of the union host and political correspondent candy controly. >> reporter: thomas jefferson talked about the wall of separation between church and state. nobody said anything about separating church and politics. but everybody knows it's a sticky wicket. is mitt romney a non-christian? >> i'm not running for theologian in chief. i'm a lifelong christian. and that means one of the lifelong guiding principles for the decisions i have made is i start with do the right thing. i'm not getting into that controversy. >> reporter: the question arising because dr. robert jeffress introduced rick perry at a voters values summit the other day, calling perry a genuine follower of jesus christ, as opposed to another candidate jeffress could and did mention in a later interview. >> i think that romney is a good moral man. but i think those of us who are born again followers of christ should always prefer a competent christian to a competent non-christian like mitt romney. >> reporter: mitt romney is a mormon, and he has passed this way before. four years ago, the first time he ran for president, when he addressed concerns, rumors, and political analysis of his religion. >> i believe in my mormon faith, and i endeavor to live by it. some believe that such a confession of my faith will sink my candidacy. if they're right, so be it. >> reporter: many things sank romney's candidacy in '08. religion may have been one of them. >> you look at the results from 2008, he ran poorly among evangelical christians especially in the state. he never topped 20% of the vote of evangelical christians. >> reporter: in all, 45% of republicans who vote in primaries are conservative evangelical christians. for romney's gop rivals, this requires a straddle. you don't want to alienate a huge part of the primary vote, nor do you want to look intolerant. the pastor who was introducing and supporting governor perry in texas, who said that governor romney, who is a mormon, is not a christian. i want to know if you agree with that statement. >> well, you know, this is so inconsquential as far as this campaign is concerned. >> reporter: you leave open the possibility that people are going to say that you dodged the question, the direct question. >> i think again to make this a big issue is just ridiculous right now. because every day i'm on the street talking to people, this is not what people are talking about. >> you'll look like you're dodging it. >> if that's what it looks like, i'm dodging it, because it's not going to help us boost this economy, and you know that's my number one priority. >> reporter: and that's how you navigate around a sticky wicket. cnn, washington. and this morning in cairo, after deadly violence erupted there yesterday, at least 23 were killed in clashes that pitted christian protesters against muslims and the military in cairo. it is the worst violence since the revolution that toppled hosni mubarak. in libya, one of the last remaining gadhafi strong holds is about to fall. they attacked gadhafi's headquarters in the center of sirt. the nba season is in serious jeopardy. league officials and union leaders met for six hours last night trying to end a lockout that now threatening to cancel the first two weeks of the regular season. the two sides reportedly agreed to meet again this morning. the milwaukee brewers strike first, taking game one of the national league championship series. the brewers erupted for six runs in the fifth inning en route to a 9-6 win over the st. louis cardinals. game two tonight in milwaukee. in the alcs, there's been more rain than runs, hits, or errors. game two of the texas rangers-detroit tigers scheduled for this afternoon, after a washout last night. that followed two long rain delays during game one on saturday. all that rain, though, is actually good for texas, which has experienced the worst drought the state has ever seen. >> that's right. nine minutes after the hour. rob is here for us. good morning, rob. >> yeah. the rain in texas is definitely welcome. in some cases, over five inches of it. clearly, god wants to bring rain to that area. and not very -- >> you know, rob, with bringing rain to texas, it's justin verlander. because every time he pitches, it rains. >> that's true. and it may be one reason that, you know, somebody doesn't want the tigers in the alcs. >> somebody. >> and i have no control over the weather. so that somebody could be much larger than any of us. check out what's going on across parts of florida. this is an area that you needed the rain, but i tell you what, not this much. a lot of flash flooding across parts of central florida earlier this weekend. and the center of this low now is right over gainesville. it tried to become a tropical system. no chance of that anymore. but it has some spin in the atmosphere, which warrants the issuance of a tropical storm watch until 1:00 this afternoon. and that is just a bit of a glitch there, but you get the idea. a threat for seeing that as a rotation continues to work its way in with some moisture. and that moisture going all the way into the carolinas. here are some of the wind reports from yesterday. over 50 miles an hour in some spots, including norman beach. and spotty power outages because of that and beach erosion. here are some of the numbers from texas. possum kingdom lake, 4.46 inches of rainfall just in a couple of days. come on. a lot of these totals are more than they have seen all year. they'll certainly take it. obviously, in some spots, a little too much of a good thing in too short a time. the other big story this weekend, i'll have to tell you about this if you leave in the northeast, it was summertime. 88 degrees in newark. 87 for boston. 86 in providence. and even up as far north as maine. the warmth continues today. a weak cool front will bring less of a chance of rain across parts of texas, including arlington. high temperature in chicago, 77. warm day again in new york city. all of this record-breaking temperatures in the northeast, and there was snow in the mountains of colorado. some of the earliest openings in their history in parts of colorado. and then this thing, hurricane jova. category 3 storm. and it will make landfall in mexico over the next 48 hours, potentially as a category 3, maybe even a 4 storm. porta vallarta. that area. tomorrow night into early wednesday. guys, that's the latest from here. i think they'll get the game off in texas later on this afternoon. >> i hope so. >> i do. >> i bet you do. >> i do. i'm ready for the tigers to win. >> you're baseball nuts. you guys love this time of year. still to come this morning, afghanistan 10 years after. we'll talk with the army 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( announcer ) fly without putting your life on pause. be yourself nonstop. american airlines. the u.s. presence in afghanistan now into its second decade that. war has lasted locker than world ii and the civil war combined. president obama has ordered all combat troops out by 2014, but polls suggest most americans want out now. what does this mean for the men and women of the u.s. army? joining us now from the white house, the army chief of staff. he'll be speaking today on a panel talking about the strength of the u.s. army and the future. welcome to the program, sir. >> well, thank you, christine. thank you for having me. >> we have just a slight delay, hopefully people can bear with us a little bit. i want to ask you about the theme for this year's annual meeting. 10 years after the start of the war in afghanistan. eight years since we went to war in iraq. what has the army learned at this time? how are we conducting ourselves in the army? how is the military conducting itself differently today than it did a decade ago? >> well, the great thing is the adaptability, the capability, and the resilience of our soldiers across the world, whether it be in iraq or afghanistan. how they have been able to adapt to the situations, continue to fight hard to achieve our nation's objectives doing a variety of things from helping governments be formed to defeating the enemy. and it's really about how great our young leaders are of today, and how they've been able to develop and continue to move forward in both of these missions in iraq and afghanistan. >> in terms of afghanistan, mcchrystal said just this week that by his estimate, we are only 50% done in our mission there. and that the main thing missing is a legitimate government in afghanistan. would you agree with that analysis? and if so, what does that mean for the next few years of what we must try to do there? >> i would put it in a little different context. i would say that we are continuing to make progress across the board with the government. most importantly with the afghan security forces. so they'll be able to take over responsibility and continue to allow the government to move forward. and i think our focus for the next two years is continuing to bring better security, continuing to train the afghan security forces, and continuing to help the government continue to grow as they get ready to move forward on their own in a few years. >> i want to talk a little bit about the shape of the army for the future. no doubt that's what you'll be talking about at this event here. erin burnett recently asked leon panetta how we would respond to another terrorist attack. and this is what he said. >> i don't know that we're going to deploy 150,000 troops the way we did in iraq and afghanistan. i think the chances for that frankly are small. the main lesson is that you can target these guys, as we did in yemen, as we did in fattah, we can target these guys in a very effective way using a smaller and more effective force. >> what does that mean for the shape and the skill set of your u.s. army, sir? >> well, first, we know that we have to be part of the solution here, as we look at the new austere times that we're going to be in. and obviously, throughout all of the military we have to find some savings in order to help with the debt. but we have to have quality forces that can operate across a wide spectrum of operations they might be asked to do. our biggest concern is about uncertainty. how do we respond to uncertainties, things we don't know about today? we have to make sure we have an army that is capable of responding anywhere in the world, capable of doing it quickly, and capable of solving the problem as quickly as possible. and that's what we're focused on as we move forward. >> you mentioned new austere times. you have talked about the hollow force you entered after the vietnam war. super committee and budget debates aside, you want to make sure this is done smartly. what kind of advice are you giving about where to cut and how to look at the future in these new austere times for the army and the new american military? >> well, and you've hit on the question. again, it's not that we are going to get smaller or cut. it's about how we do it. and we have to do it in a rational way. we have to do it slowly over time so we can sustain the quality, sustain the capabilities that we need. we have to be careful about cutting too deeply. i'm extremely concerned about if we go to sequester, because i believe that would devastate the army, devastate all of our military. and could actually cause us to fundamentally change how we do national security. and i think the world today is much too uncertain. so i'm certainly hoping that we can come to an agreement, find cuts that are across the board, and that does not dig too much deeper into the military so we can maintain our capabilities to provide security for this country. >> there are 2 million men and women who have served in the past 10 years on the battlefields in afghanistan and iraq. those people come home with significant challenges. their families have challenges. it's been widely reported. we also have to make sure that any kind of new austere reality that we still are taking care of america's military. >> it's absolutely critical that we remember the soldiers and families who have sacrificed so much. those who have deployed two, three, four, five times. over the last 10 years, the army has given 14,000 valorous awards. we have over 1,200 amputees. we have lost over 4,000 soldiers. we can't forget about these people, their families, and what they have given for our country. and this doesn't even get into those who we know will be potentially involved with post traumatic stress. and what that means in the future. so we've got to stay focused on this. we've got to take care of them. and we've got to make sure that we keep an army that allows us to continue to respond and not put too much pressure on those who remain in the army as we meet our future challenges. >> all right. thank you, sir, for joining us today. if you're not in d.c., but want to catch some of the top panelists at this year's exhibitions, you can download the army virtual exhibit app. now is your chance to talk back on one of the big stories of the day. the question for you this morning, why is herman cain surging in the polls? imagine, a 2012 presidential race that pits barack obama against herman cain. wow. hey, anything is possible. many political talking heads are pooh-poohing the polls saying that cain is the flavor of the week. but something about cain resonates. he is a self-made man who had this to say about the high black unemployment rate. >> i don't believe racism in this country today holds anybody back in a big way. >> and herman cain, boy, does he like the work the room. >> i would bring a sense of humor to the white house because america is too uptight. >> now that's true. herman cain has been on tv saying among other things, quote, i can eat black walnut all the time. it's not a flavor of the week. and then there's this. >> i don't mind if he calls me crazy. if we are not in it to win it, we will not be in it. >> mitt romney. >> good hair. 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>> yeah, i'm surprised every day. >> reporter: tom o'donnell heads new york's office of investigations for health and human services. it turns out maxim, with hundreds of offices, wasn't just overbilling richard west, but medicaid recipients across the country. >> probably the most egregious thing they did is they were overbilling and fraudulently altering the time cards. >> reporter: how much money were they essentially ripping off? >> i think that the actual amount was about $61 million. >> reporter: prosecutors reached a deal with maxim, which cooperated with investigators, and has new restructured under new management. >> none of us can afford our government's coffers to be bled by fraud. >> reporter: the company will pay $150 million, half of it to reimburse 41 states that were overcharged. nine executives and employees have pleaded guilty to various charges. others were fired for misconduct. in a statement to cnn, maxim's new ceo praises richard west for uncovering the fraud, saying the company takes full responsibility, and has established a new infrastructure. quote, including an entirely new senior management team and an unrelenting commitment to strict compliance with all laws. although prosecutors did not accuse maxim of compromising patient care, west says he almost died twice because of life threatening infections he got when nurses failed to show. >> there were nights i didn't know if i would wake up. and that's the reality. >> the reality for lots of people. because west did expose the scheme, he is now set to get about $15 million under the whistle blower's act, that's 10% of the $150 million settlement. that means he could end up paying for his own health care, and that's care that he was essentially fighting for to begin with. but of course, now it's going to cost him hundreds of thousands a year, of course, and in order to get medicaid or medicare again, he'll have to go bankrupt. so kind of a vicious cycle here. >> so this company that ripped off all those people, including him, is still in business. and they can still make a profit. and this poor guy might be losing money. >> that's exactly right. and one of the reasons is because maxim took what's called a deferred prosecution. that means if they abide by the terms of the deal, the terms of the deal are very strict, they got rid of all of their upper management, nine people did go to jail. again, they are trying to change the culture, the culture of corruption. and if the company does do that, then they will be allowed to stay in business. you have to remember, they do serve a lot of people. people can't be without services, even for a small window. so better to try to fix the system in place, ok, as opposed to destroy a company only to come back. >> it's just that one company. how many other companies and different companies like that? 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>> i think it's for the kids who are there now. you know, i feel like i came -- i was lucky, and i came out the other side just fine. but i know there are children in school now going through the same things that many of us were when we were children. >> sadly, that is true. tell us about the bullying you experienced in middle school and in high school. >> for me, it was mostly elementary and middle school. and i should say there wasn't any one specific bully in my case. it was more that i was the kid who was kind of the safest to pick on. i was a little bit awkward and a little bit sensitive and cried a little bit easily. so beginning in elementary school, early elementary school, there was a lot of verbal teasing. and then by later elementary school and early middle school, it was a little more physical, things being thrown that, sort of thing. >> but these experiences stuck with you, and affected your life. and even at some point, you felt was i imagining that, did it really happen to me, do i deserve to feel this way. >> you know, i always knew it happened and was real. partly because i was very lucky in having supportive adults, even if i didn't have any supportive classmates who kind of validated that this was really going on. but then as i said in the salon article, there was this strange experience where my classmates began getting in touch online, and they wouldn't talk about what had happened, as if either they didn't remember it or to them this thing that kind of defined my school experience was just a minor thing that wasn't worth mentioning. >> so they didn't even realize how much their behavior affected you. but there was one bully who admitted to bullying you, and tell us about conversing with him online. >> that was really startling. i got an email from him. saying, you know, i was in fourth grade. i was in so-and-so's class. and i remember a janni. is that you? and i thought someone else trying to get in touch and we'll e exchange a few nice tees and then move on. we confirmed that we had been in this class together. and then he said, which completely surprised me, was that he remembered that he had teased me. and like i said, he wasn't among the worst or the only one doing it, but that he did remember the teasing, and that he thought about it through the years and he just wanted to touch base and see if i was ok. >> did he say he was sorry? >> pretty much. i can't remember if those were the exact words. but that was definitely the content. >> but, you know, that's always a fantasy that people have when they were bullied in school, and they'll run into their bully and they'll give them a talking to, and that bully will have remorse, and they'll say i'm sorry. was that yours? >> well, it was wonderful. sort of. it was very validating. and what i realized is that he had actually had that moment years before. and by middle school, and we were in middle school, he was standing up for bullied kids. he had that realization years ago, and we had pretty much been on the same side for years and we were both concerned about the kids who are in school now. >> you know, i have often wondered whether it's a good idea for those bullied years ago to get in touch with their bullies. i mean, to make the effort, to get in touch, and to talk with these people to tell them, look, you were wrong. you hurt me. and this is what i have to say to you now. >> you know, i don't know if he hadn't gotten in touch, i wouldn't have gone around emailing people who bullied me. i think the best way of sort of confronting the past is living well in the present. and i think i have been doing that, you know, through my writing and through my life. >> so, lastly, what advice would you give parents who have a child in school who's being bullied? >> for parents, the first thing i would say is never tell your child that it's in some way their fault, because i have talked to friends who have grown up believing something was wrong with them, and that made it a lot harder to move past it. and just be supportive, let them know that you actually do care. i think for both kids and adults, even small acts of kindness can make a huge difference. even if it doesn't seem like they're changing the big picture, they show at least you care enough to be trying. and i think that's hugely important. >> advice taken. janni lee simner, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you for inviting me. >> we enjoyed it and learned a lot too. we'll be right back. ♪ the first time i felt my heart ♪ [ man ] people say i'm forgetful. 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"american morning" is back right after a break. good morning, new york city. how nice. look at central park. a little hazy this morning, but it is 63 degrees. and later today, 84. much of the country is experiencing these fabulous temperatures. i love indian summers here. welcome back to "american morning." the white hair, the dark sunglasses, the big high collared shirts. >> for nearly three decades, the iconic cakarl lagerfeld has bee the creative force behind chanel. but designing coke bottles and talking home appliances? you won't believe what else he is doing. >> good morning. yes, i am just back from paris. i was there for a couple of weeks shooting this half-hour special. and karl lagerfeld. when you think about those iconic brands, chanel really is the most famous brand in the world, if you think about it. and as you mentioned, karl lagerfeld is iconic. but designing coke bottles and hocking those home appliances just watch what else he's up to. not just in france but around the world karl lagerfeld is mobbed wherever he goes. he's not just a celebrity designer. he's a celebrity. what do you think it is that people are so fascinated by? >> that's a very good question. i don't know what it is. it's a strange scene. i think it's flattering. i don't sing. i'm not an actor. i have no scandals. >> reporter: he does do this. lagerfeld's chanel show is arguably the most anticipated fashion spectacle of the paris collections. something he's been doing at chanel since 1983. when he was hired as artistic director. it's so much work. it's so many collections. how do you -- and you're so involved. >> i have it in the blood. you know, when i was asked to do it, chanel wasn't trendy at all the owner said, i'm not proud of the business. if you can make something, ok. if not, i'll sell it. and we made something out of because he gave me a sort of freedom. >> reporter: lagerfeld answers to no one, rare for a company the size of chanel, a nearly $2 billion privately owned business that sells not just those iconic quilt the haed handbags and bal flats but clothes, jewelry, makeup, and perfume. you know, chanel number 5. the one marilyn monroe famously said she went to bed with. an icon, just like the company's founder, coco chanel. >> the label has an image. it's up to me to update it. >> reporter: lagerfeld made chanel cool again. >> i had to find my market and go from what it was, what it should be, what it could be, what it had been, to something else. it sounds very complicated but in fact it's not. >> reporter: what makes do you that? >> i don't know. i have a flash like this. i don't ask questions. i get answers i don't know from where. it's a very strange thing, you know. when i make big efforts, it's for the garbage can. when i make no effort, suddenly, i don't know, it happens. it's much better. but you cannot count on it. because sometimes we work a lot for the garbage can for nothing. and then suddenly, a light goes on. >> reporter: and it can happen at any time. in addition to his duties at chanel, he is the creative director of fendi, has his own label, and this season launched a line at macy's. s he's a photographer, author, and owns a bookstore. outside of fashion, lagerfeld has designed bottles for coca-cola. and here he is in an ad for a washer and dryer. >> i'm a working labor. >> reporter: how does he do it all? >> i have alzheimer's for my own work. and i do that on purpose. i think it's a very good thing. too many people remember what they did. forget it all. and start again. >> reporter: even at twice the age of his competitors, it's an attitude that has served him well, made him rich, and virtually irreplaceable at chanel. >> in fact, it's a good thing for him. it's a good thing for me. and not such a bad thing for fashion. >> that's right. and from the man who calls himself labelfeld, how about this? karleidoscope. and he was there every step of the way in the creative process. and it is something you see a lot with designers that are successful, they are very involved, detail oriented. but for karl lagerfeld to have done it for so long and stay at the top for so long, that is rare. you don't see that very often. >> so the washing machine, i take it it's not a kenmore? >> it's not a kenmore. it's actually a swiss company. but, you know, he's done a lot of ads. he lends his name. >> so back to the washing machine. he designed this fancy washing machine. and it looked great. and it looked like a washing machine. but how much is the washing machine? >> you know, i think it's safe to say that it's probably in the thousands, not the hundreds. but, you know, we'll get back to you on that. i think the important point here is that his iconic image sells. and as i said, he really can't go anywhere anymore without being mobbed. and it goes beyond being a celebrity designer. he's a bona fide a list celebrity everywhere he goes. you know, there are pictures taken. just like a star. paparazzi everywhere. but he could not have been nicer. and it was a thrill to get inside that studio and see him work. really the master. >> did you see him without his glasses and gloves? >> for just a moment. >> how does he look? >> pretty much the same. >> all right. thanks so much, alina. don't miss her special, "fashion backstage pass." it airs this saturday, october 15, at 2:30 p.m. eastern. up next, our talk back question of the day. the question for you this morning, why is herman cain surging in the polls? we'll read your responses. it's five minutes to the top of the hour. our talk back question of the day, the question, why is herman cain surging in the polls? this from yolanda. keep the comments coming. facebook.com/americanmorning.

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