ronson chan is one of the most well known journalists in hong kong. he s a fierce defender ofjournalists rights. yells. the bbc has been following his life since the early days of the national security law. in december 2021, stand news, one of hong kong s last independent media outlets, was raided by the national security police. senior editors were arrested and detained. the charge publishing seditious material. ronson worked there as an editor. on that morning, national security police came to ronson s door. those found guilty of violating the national security law could face life in prison. ronson was taken away for questioning, then released, but his colleagues remain in custody. as chairman of the journalists association, he has long been seen as a possible target. i won t comment on anything right now, 0k? i have a meeting with my colleagues first, 0k? it s been nine months since we last heard from ronson. ronson was recently arrested after a confrontation with the p
the production company podot. also with us is lewis goodall from the news agents podcast and tony pastor, the man behind goalhanger, which is the podcast production company he set up with gary lineker and makes all sorts of hit podcasts, including the rest is history, the rest is politics. there s something very intimate about listening to a podcast i mean, in many ways, a bit like radio where people have their headphones on, they re cooking, they re commuting, they re walking the dog and they get very, very close to the people in theirears. they develop a relationship with the people they re listening to on a regular basis. and we find that when we do live events, a lot of the audience comes up to our hosts and treats them like friends, like they already know them and we have to sort of remind ourtalent, our hosts, that, you know, to expect this and it s just one of those quirks that, in part, i think it s the nature of the way you listen to the shows. here s a quote to
have their headphones on, they re cooking, they re commuting, they re walking the dog and they get very, very close to the people in their ears. they develop a relationship with the people they re listening to on a regular basis. and we find that when we do live events, a lot of the audience comes up to our hosts and treats them like friends, like they already know them and we have to sort of remind ourtalent, our hosts, that, you know, to expect this. and it sjust one of those quirks that, in part, i think it s the nature of the way you listen to the shows. here s a quote to start us off. it s from an annual report on digital news from the reuters institute for the study ofjournalism. it came out on monday and describes news podcasting as, a bright spot for publishers which attracts younger, well educated listeners . given that there aren t so many bright spots for many news organisations at the moment, that is something to hold on to, and i wanted to open up to everyone f
a lot of the audience comes up to our hosts and treats them like friends, like they already know them. and we have to sort of remind our talent, our hosts, that, you know, to expect this. and it sjust one of those quirks that, in part, i think it s the nature of the way you listen to the shows. here s a quote to start us off. it s from an annual report on digital news from the reuters institute for the study ofjournalism. it came out on monday and describes news podcasting as, a bright spot for publishers, which attracts younger, well educated listeners. given that there aren t so many bright spots for many news organisations at the moment, that is something to hold on to and i wanted to open up to everyone first. lewis, you re here. you ve covered many an election over your very young life. you make me sound so old. yeah, not that old. but you ve managed to get in on a few elections. but could you have ever seen that podcasting would be so central to this one? well, i def
to on a regular basis. and we find that when we do live events, a lot of the audience comes up to our hosts and treats them like friends, like they already know them. and we have to sort of remind ourtalent, our hosts, that, you know, to expect this. and it sjust one of those quirks that, in part, i think it s the nature of the way you listen to the shows. here s a quote to start us off. it s from an annual report on digital news from the reuters institute for the study ofjournalism. it came out on monday and describes news podcasting as, a bright spot for publishers, which attracts younger, well educated listeners. given that there aren t so many bright spots for many news organisations at the moment, that is something to hold on to and i wanted to open up to everyone first. lewis, you re here. you ve covered many an election over your very young life. you make me sound so old. yeah, not that old. but you ve managed to get in on a few elections. but could you have ever see