was this debate something on the minds of those who were gathered there at that event in columbia last night? it s interesting, david, it was, it s something that people were keenly aware of. folks who told me they re not paying close attention to the race so far. are aware of this controversy. but i have to tell you among the black voters who i spoke to here in south carolina most of the folks i talked to told me two things. number one they re willing to give joe biden a little benefit of the doubt. don t think he s a racist. they think this was an inartful comment. don t see him as someone who is a partner of segregationists. they don t want to see him approach this in a trumpian way. the voters i talked to wanted to hear an apology from joe biden. that perhaps he could do better. and the other political dynamic i think is important in this state right now, it does feel like joe biden is running against himself. the level of knowledge about the other candidates, the level that the
tape. how does that happen exactly? one more thing from that statement. anybody has information that the democratic party is working with ms. carroll please notify us as soon as possible. indicating that the world should know what s really going on is a disgrace and people should pay dearly for such false accusations. thank you all very much for joining me here in new york. hope you tune in tomorrow, i ll be joined by christine greer, christina beltran. coming up in our next hour as they make their way to miami, most of the democratic candidates are spending a big weekend in south carolina. the 2020 contenders getting ready to address the south carolina democratic party convention. we ll take you to columbia, live. add not one, but two amazing sides. and top it off with dessert.
and i think the candidates really enjoy being down here in a very loose environment. and in a week that s a high-pressure cooker for them heading into the debate. as for the fish i ate about my weight in it with a ton of hot sauce and a little bud lite to wash it down. i can t complain, this is how campaigning should go. with impunity has garrett headac haik. this moment of patronage when you have to pay respect to jim clyburn. there was a lot of commentary about his week about his role within the democratic party, about what he represents today as we have this conversation about the democratic party of 2019. give us your sense of the role that he plays, the importance of kissing jim clyburn s rim ring in columbia. first of all i should say i ve had that fish and it s really good. the second thing i ll say is that jim clyburn in a lot of way sass gate keeper. i remember when covering bernie sanders there was a big debate about whether or not bernie sanders even went to jim clyb
still with him. looking forward to that interview and all the conversations on a.m. joy coming up from columbia. you look at the debate prep footage, how much work is that? it s tremendous. when you re spending hours a day for weeks on end in that kay, from the general election, you re not doing other things, you re not shaking hands, you re not raising money. some people don t take it seriously. the thing we re not talking about is there are going to be ten podiums, but there will be an 1 1th player on the field. it s going to be donald trump, live-tweeting. and to go back to biden, we did not think would be successful at this point because he was an older white male who had been in washington for a long time. people are giving him a pass to some extent. think he s going to be the best against trump. what happens when you re watching these debates and there s someone else who defines