and i think the candidates really enjoy being down here in a very loose environment. and in a week that's a high-pressure cooker for them heading into the debate. as for the fish -- i ate about my weight in it with a ton of hot sauce and a little bud lite to wash it down. i can't complain, this is how campaigning should go. >> with impunity has garrett headac haik. this moment of patronage when you have to pay respect to jim clyburn. there was a lot of commentary about his week about his role within the democratic party, about what he represents today as we have this conversation about the democratic party of 2019. give us your sense of the role that he plays, the importance of kissing jim clyburn's rim ring in columbia. >> first of all i should say i've had that fish and it's really good. >> the second thing i'll say is that jim clyburn in a lot of way sass gate keeper. i remember when covering bernie sanders there was a big debate about whether or not bernie sanders even went to jim clyburn