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Engaging in a quid pro quo outside the phone call, that would be very disturbing. there you have it. the congressman has it right here, the transcript. and the quid pro quo is there, and lindsay s just saying get over it basically. and i think for the president is his defense is in conflict with their defense for him. they are not saying, well, it s a quid pro quo, but there are good quid pro quos and bad quid pro quos and the president s like, no, no quid pro quo. and you have to at least be aligned in your defense. and, again, i think when you see all these witnesses come in, it s going to be crystal clear to the american people this was a shakedown, defense dollars for dirt. it s a question of is that what we want the president to do? some people may say this is what we elected when we got donald trump. i think most americans are going to say our president should be better than that. and i would just add that i think most republicans think that he s someone who isn t too wea ....
President s party has had a really hard time trying to defend him. and as more details emerge it s getting increasingly hard to do so. recently the republicans are all over the place. there are perfectly appropriate quid pro quos, and there are inappropriate quid pro quos. just saying that there is a quid pro quo at least based on my analysis of the evidence that i ve seen so far is a read herring. i trust president zelensky and president trump and i trust the fact that the ukrainians didn t know that aid with been withheld. what i can tell you about the trump policy toward the ukraine, it was incoherent. it depends on who you talk to. they seem to be incapable of forming a quid pro quo. i am not going to read these transcripts. the whole process is a joke. that s so incoherent, i think 11 people have testified to aid for dirt. ....
What marie yovanovitch wrote and called gordon sondland for advice. they knew what they were doing was harmful to advancing foreign pels yet keep doing it. stop using republican talking point this is an foreign policy. mick mulvaney said quid pro quos happen all the time. kniss wasn t foreign policy instead it undermined it. and brought you mulvaney. jump there. chatting, you said get through the end of the volker testimony some of this was going through the president s chief of staff? yeah. about an hour ago we learned that now they want to talk to mick mulvaney. this testimony from volker gives an idea why. not everything went through mulvaney but he absolutely is involve ared in some of this back and forth between the players here. i think this will give a road map to why congress wants to talk to mulvaney. kurt volker agrees with sam s take on the foreign aid. he gives an window into the foreign aid and said the pros. pentagon, military, civilian, ....
Sondland testimony deals with the issue of a quid pro quo and whether or not he told investigators out. something that we spotted looking at the deposition. i want to do a reset, this is very important for context, go back, this was maybe about a month ago. we got some text messages between bill taylor, the acting ambassador to ukraine and gordon sondland. i will read what the set up was then. bill taylor as i sat on the phone, it is crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign. and gordon sondland replied by text messages bill, i believe you are incorrect about president trump s intentions but he has been incredibly clear, no quid pro quos of anytime pit i suggest we stop the back and forth by text and take this back on line. there was something potentially withheld when you go through this testimony. the other thing i am struck by ....
or a lot and i understand there s no one to go to. mick mulvaney has his t-shirts, everybody is doing it, whatever stupid thing he said about quid pro quos and donald trump was, you know, called the code red. but why not go to congress. when i read these transcripts, they all knew it was wrong, they all felt dirty, they all new they were singed or damaged. why weren t they the whistle-blower? i think when you get in a position of power, sometimes you think that you are the glue that s holding it all together. that s a psychological condition. being in these positions and feeling like you re standing between donald trump and disaster and that you are containing disaster is a mind set that you hear frequently from national security officials who have worked in the administration. chuck, i ask you to do this all the time, but try to pull this together for all of us. ....