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Transcripts for MSNBC AM Joy 20191116 15:11:00

me meacham. it s so much about this that s unprecedented. a blend of the andrew johnson impeachment for defying congress and the richard nixon impeachment for all sorts of obstruction sort of blended together but i want to play for you another thing that i think is unique about this impeachment in that this is the first time that we re actually seeing a literal word from the impeachment article being thrown around about the president of the united states and that is the word bribery. i want to play you the speaker of the house nancy pelosi from thursday. the devastating testimony corroborated evidence of bribery uncovered in the inquiry. bribery and that is in the constitution attached to the impeachment proceedings. so what was the prescribe here? the bribe is to grant or with hold military assistance in return for a public statement of a fake investigation into the election. john, is it just rhetorical?

Transcripts for MSNBC AM Joy 20191116 16:39:00

recognized. so we know that clearly you are going to interrupt us throughout the hearing. republicans kept trying it friday, putting on a show for their audience of one, donald trump. joining me now, kurt bardella, former spokesperson for the oversight committee and tara, thank you for being here. let s play more of the show because the star of it was elise stefanik, young representative from new york. if i m not wrong, she was the youngest member of congress ever elected before aoc came in. that s correct. so she s kind of the aoc of their side, right? yeah. here she is leading the show this week. take a listen. yield to you, ms. stefanik. thank you, mr. nunes. ambassador yovanovitch, thank you for being here today the gentlewoman will suspend. what is the interruption for? you are not recognized. under the house resolution 660, you are not allowed to yield

Transcripts for MSNBC AM Joy 20191116 15:09:00

you know, on the one hand you say you want to drive for the truth and no one was there that heard, well, all of your people you re trying to and you re preventing them from cooperating with congress and our investigation. it is absolute obstruction of this of our investigation. in fact, it is so relevant that if you look at the nixon impeachment, how he tried to cover up was to prevent all of his folks from testifying, but when the facts came out and i think that that all of the people around the president better start observing because if you look at the nixon impeachment, everybody ended up going to jail except nixon and so they should think twice about whether or not they re going to listen to just the president and try to cover up blindly or come and tell the truth as you see that many of the individuals in our state department who are putting their country and their

Transcripts for MSNBC AM Joy 20191116 16:10:00

members of congress believe it, too. well, here s the thing, everything other than core visceral tribalism has been boiled away. that s what this is. let s set aside for a second the fact that what hillary clinton was accused of doing with a private, unsecured email is like a little anthill compared to the empire state building of thif operational security nightmare. but what is plain from all of this testimony is, we know the answer he did it. all of this evidence, this huge accumulation of evidence from highly credible witnesses over and over and over shows us that what we saw initially on that summary of the trump/zelensky call is, in fact, what happened. he pressured zlovolodymyr zelen, a vulnerable new leader of a country at war with russia, under attack by russia, he

Transcripts for MSNBC AM Joy 20191116 16:42:00

that the strategy, basically? they perform for trump. they yell and scream. they were extremely loud and obnoxious, to be blunt, with all three witnesses yep. that s it. so, just being obnoxious in and of itself is how they please trump. yeah, it s noise. the one thing we ve seen from trump, and we saw this with the brett kavanaugh hearing, the corey lewandowski hearing when he cried and screamed and then got to be a supreme court justice. he seems to respond to a specific personality and mannerism. in lewandowski, when he was openly defiant to the congress, that s what republicans are doing on this panel. they re using the same tactics. doesn t matter what the facts are or that everything jim jordan just said is completely untrue and has been proven to be so, but they keep repeating it in this echo chamber and say, well, the people that were involved in the call do you know anybody who, by the way, was blackmailed who then says on national tv, yes, i was blackmailed.

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