The idea of possibliy resigning. Whats unclear is how serious that was. Whether he said Something Like i am willing to resign if the president wants me to or whether he said i intend to resign and im going to do it on monday. We dont know the exact nature of those conversations. Eli, i want to hear about your reporting. I want to show our viewers what phil rucker is talking about. Lets watch. I have a message for the president tonight. Under zero circumstances should the president fire anybody. If you are laying a trap for donald trump, this might be exactly how youd do it. Okay, professor, what will President Trump do now . Well, if hes smart, hell take advantage of this and not fire either any of these people, not mueller, not rosenstein, and not sessions. So this is important point because i think a lot of people are really scared after the
rosensteins people to come out and say, he expects to be fired. His people were putting that out to what end, we dont know at this point but cer
What weve been discussing w today, which involved in a regular channel, was a request that went against u. S. Policy that have have undermined the rule of law and our longstanding policy goals in ukraine, as in other countries in the postsoviet space. Those policies which were indeed championed by ambassador yovanovitch. You also testified on october 15th in the deposition about fundamental reforms necessary for ukraine to fight corruption and to transform the country. And you t cited the importance reforming certain institutions, notably was investigating President Trumps political opponents a part of those necessary reforms . Was it on that list of yours or indeed was it on any list . No, they werent. In fact, historically, is it not true that a major problem in the ukraine has been its misuse
of prosecutors, precisely to conduct investigation of political opponents. Thats a legacy i dare suggest from the soviet era when, as you stated in your testimony, prosecutors like the kgb were
The whistleblower made falseht statements, the whistleblower got caught with chairman schiff. Remember chairman schiff, the person that the democrats instead of the House Judicial Committee which has spent a full week on this, thats not who has been in charge. They put in charge was the person that got caught with the whistleblower. Have you spoken directly with the whistleblower . No, we have not. Wed like to. That wasnt true. The person that said he had evidence of the first fake impeachment scam, collusion with russia, had evidence of that collusion and didnt have it. The person who in the course of that read into the record the steele dossier because the people needed to know what happened about the truth of what happened. We heard about the truth of what happened with the steele dossier this week when the Inspector General said it was all garbage, rubbish, all made up. Yeah, thatad chairman schiff. And now he got caught not being truthful about a whistleblower who, as i told you t
Doing their business. This might actually start on time. Mike pompeo doesnt get enough attention. There is two scenarios, he was helping to orchestrate the off book Political Campaign run by donald trump and Rudy Giuliani, or he was oblivious to what was being done to all of his employees. He was asked repeatedly to defend her, and we have on the record in testimony a call from the State Department to yovanovitch at 1 00 in the morning where they say we need to get you out on the next plane. What did he do . I think the fact pattern is just as par real for mike cpompeo as trump. We know that mike pompeo was listening in on the phone call of which donald trump said of that former ambassador. That bad woman, bad things are going to happen to her and her former boss, secretary pompeo didnt do anything. Lisa, you work at the State Department for a republican administration. What impact does this have on the state Department Today and in the future. I agree with nicole that i think pompeo w
Been looking for an excuse to impeach this president for a long time now. In fact, when they took over the house pardon of the interruption here. Im going to step out here at the top of the hour, but our coverage of the impeachment proceedings continue now on msnbc. Stay with us. Its all about politics, hurting the president , hurting his reputation. They dislike him intensely. As i mentioned the other day, they really loathe this president and theyre trying to hurt his chances in the next election. But one of my real concerns, and i have a lot of them about this whole thing, and i mentioned this earlier today, im very concerned about is that the democrats are really lowering the bar for impeaching a president in the future. Its becoming too routine. Its becoming the new normal. For 200 years in our nation we had one impeachment, one in 200 years, Andrew Johnson. And now in less than 50 years
were in our third one this time around. And i really am concerned that from now on in all like