the manhattantoday. they will be in tomorrow. but they won t be working on the donald trump hush money case. at least not right now. and that is about all that we know at this moment. it is unclear when the grand jury will be meeting on donald trump again. there is a report saying the case is taking a one-month break starting next week, but our nbc news team says to treat that pronouncement with caution. at minimum, d.a. alvin bragg can still use the grand jury tomorrow, next monday or next wednesday on donald trump. as always, our sources add the agenda is fluid, and can change at any moment. we re going to get an update from someone who used to work in the d.a. s office in just a second. there are also developments in the january 6th special counsel investigation. former vp mike pence now says he and his team are considering whether to appeal a federal judge s order to force him to testify. here he is in iowa today. when are you going to decide on any possible appeal of t
Do you think that could be a problem for the d.a.? absolutely. you want to control your witnesses, whether cooperators or not. someone like michael cohen who has baggage, but baggage we would expect if he s involved in a scheme, if that s true, you would expect the person with the most information or knowledge would have that type of bag age. the more he speaks, and the more problem that we have as a prosecutor. so they want to certainly clamp him down. mr. trump s defense will go at him very very hard. no doubt they ll use whatever he said before against him. let us now talk about the special counsel case. there s two investigations in the special counsel. the one regarding january 6th had a development yesterday, mike pence being ordered to testify by a judge. mike pence today in multiple interviews and in iowa saying his team is looking it over. do we have any idea, i know you re in touch with them, about when he s going to make a
Spoke and they want to find out how many of those words were fed to him by stephen miller and we had a development yesterday, where one of the insurrectionists, a guy named dustin thompson was convicted on all counts by a dc jury, after he laid out the argument to the jury that, listen, i was just following presidential orders, i did what donald trump told me to do, i believed that. the problem for him, it it s not a defense. right? but it is incriminating evidence against donald trump and perhaps based on yesterday s testimony before the january 6th committee, it may be incriminating evidence against stephen miller as well. that s an interesting point, glen. thank you for that analysis. and curt, we mentioned the presidential the debates and the fact that it is not a law, it is a norm, an historic norm, but they also give us candidates, these presidential debates we like to, have folks like trump and other, big huge platforms,
Tom barrack was released after posting $250 million in bail. elie honig author of hatchet man, how bill barr broke the prosecutor s code and corrupted the justice department joins us now. elie, great to see you, as always. one viewer wants to know about this. how likely is it that tom barrack might cooperate with prosecutors? i think that s the question on a lot of folks minds right now. that would be interesting. it s a big question, jim. barrack is in a tough spot. he s been charged with illegal foreign lobbying and with obstruction of justice. we can t know what a person is going to do when it comes to cooperation, it s an intensely difficult personal decision. but if we look at his incentives here, he s looking at serious charges. the evidence laid out in the indictment is really powerful. it s almost entirely barrack s own words in emails. he s 74 years old. if he gets convicted, he ll go to jail several years. very interesting development yesterday, as you said. prosecutors
Course would be left up to kim. today the president is expected to have a quiet day in new jersey before flying off to will alto participate in a rally for the election of senator luther strange, who is in a tight race against the very is popular former georjudge roy moore. let s discuss it with editor at large chris solizza and national security analyst david sanger. great to have both of you. david, before i get to the overheated, colorful rhetoric coming from pyongyang, can we talk about what was a development yesterday. that was what was happening in beijing. it appears that china central bank sent some instructions to its ancillary banks to stop doing business or transactions with pyongyang. how big a development is that and do you think that s a byproduct of something president trump has done?