Our coverage continues on the last word with my friend lawrence o donnell. Good evening. A big newsnight. Yes and minutes before you started your live coverage, we just got the news and i was reading it as you are handling it live. I have been following these swarming investigations of city hall and eric adams at what i felt was relatively closely, but i have never been able to describe to anyone the full shape of it. I think by tomorrow we will have the diagrams built to put on screen to show you the number of commissioners who resigned from this administration. The number of people in the adams administration alone who have had telephones seized. I first covered it on this program two weeks ago for the first time when the police commissioner was forced to resign. That had reached a level that really made it feel like it was now happening at the very top and here we are tonight at the top of the top, at city hall. Stunning news and new york city history in the making. Have a good show
Fani willis is not disqualified from prosecuting donald trump and his codefendants. But the judge, he didnt just issue a ruling judge mcafee issued an ultimatum either. She goes or nathan wade goes nathan wade went. And if youd thought robert hurs one line throwing some shade at President Biden was savage while judge mcafee is order hardly had any sunlight when it came to willis and wade, although there were moments that he recognized that the burden had not been met to show that they in fact, had a Conflict Of Interests that made a fair trial impossible. Theres one particular quote, georgia law does not permit the finding of an actual conflict for simply making bad choices. In repeatedly all the scrutiny of fani willis and nathan wade and their relationship who live where when who paid for what how an all it went down. It all threatens to overshadow throat knee of what this case is actually about. Let me remind you for a second. Weve already been through the hearing and trial about th
whatever one thinks of that particular president, the fact does congress does not typically question or subpoena presidents. this ain t england. the legislature does not question the president the way you would see in the sessions they hold with the legislature. but tonight the news is that might change. there s solid reporting that the house is eyeing trump himself as the january 6th committee is meeting behind closed doors, weighing what you see here the certainly costly potential clash over trying to make trump testify as well as pursuing an interview with pence. now, going to trump would surely take a subpoena and then a court battle over it. the wall street journal reporting all this. and trump spent his whole career resisting these kinds of moves. we know that. sometimes he prevails. sometimes he loses. there have been court losses that forced him into the taped deposition see here on your screen. that only came after he was forced into that situation. that was also
maya, there s the cut and dry question of whether the crime can be proven. there s the wider question of how you deal with any former president, and it s a big one simply because it hasn t happened in this country, and then there s the next concentric circle of, is this on the table in washington? which you and i have discussed in so many ways, is a town that acts last, thinks last, looks around with a finger in the air to understand what s possible, and has a lot of people, even people inside what is a democratic appointed justice department to say, they can t be the first mover. on any of those rings, do you see this as something substantively can and should happen, and there s a shift in washington, or you don t hear it? look, i think it can happen. i think we re hearing the rumblings possibly of a shift. i also think it should happen. and the reason i think it should happen is at this stage, with
committee members do publicly is send a not-no-subtle message that, hey, this evidence already exists. it s out in the public domain. you don t have to go looking for it. we ve already found it for you. even at the end of our investigation, if we don t specifically author some document which has no weight at all legally that we send over to you, you can still take all this information that we found, you can read our report, and then decide for yourself whether or not a crime was committed. obviously, there are a number of members of this committee that believe that evidence exists, and, of course, you already have a judge in california who ruled on a case related to john eastman, that conservative lawyer, who said at least the building blocks of a criminal conspiracy exist and the evidence that s been uncovered. but garland chooses his words very carefully. he said last week the investigation will go wherever the truth takes it. we know they ve expanded to include the planning and fi