welcome to alex witt reports. developing this hour, new word on the condition of paul pelosi after the terrifying attack at his san francisco home. how speaker nancy pelosi speaking her silence, saying her husband is doing better and she's grateful for the quick police response. and comes as audio reveals how a 9-1-1 operator may have saved his life. all of these new details ahead, new reaction from both sides of the political violence. >> i think this was a deranged individual. you can say, people saying let's fire pelosi or the take back the house. saying go to violence. i don't to see attacks on any politician from any political background. >> it is important people realize it is not just this moment, this horrific attack. that we have seen violence perpetrated throughout our political system. >> we are counting down to the midterms now nine days away. both party these sharpening their messages in this final stretch, democrats bring in one of their biggest weapons on the campaign trail former president obama as they hit the sunday show today. >> i think the democrats are going to get a rude awakening on november that high inflation, high crossing the borders is not with the republicans want. >> where you should be asking yourself right now is who will fight for you? who cares about you. that is the choice in this election. all of the other stuff is surface stuff. it is the stretch. >> we will begin with msnbc's maura barrett joining us from san francisco. mora, what more are we learning about the attack on paul pelosi? >> well, alex, we have been able to listen to the dispatch audio from police responding to the 9-1-1 call that paul pelosi was able to make when the attacker broke into his home. overnight, nancy pelosi called releasing a statement saying that her plea to her husband is on the mend. >> house speaker nancy pelosi, saying her husband, paul, condition continues to improve adding in a statement that her family is heartbroken and traumatized by the life-threatening attack on our pop. it comes as newly dispatched police audio sheds light on what happened inside the couple's home after an attacker broke in. >> our pc that there's a man's home anita that he's going to wait for's wife are p -- >> a 9-1-1 operator heather graves being called a hero for being able to disclose mr. pelosi's cryptic call for help. >> she was feeling that something was not right here. the elevator -- meant a quicker response. >> which meant that quicker officers can get there in minutes. >> it was life-saving. >> david peppy was allegedly attacking pelosi with a hammer. bringing in on attempted murder charges when he was rain on tuesday. >> when you take a hammer to someone's head in that violent in a faction fashion, we believe you are trying to kill them. >> investigators are reviewing recent blog posts related to depape. on officials saying that the post display wide-ranging extremist views. >> it is a very far-right viewpoint that had changed over the last 15 years, maybe in part due to -- >> with threats in violence against political figures on the rise, the department of homeland security issuing a new joint telegenic bolton morning velveeta threats against the election just nine days before the midterms. >> it certainly is a wake up call that we have gone too far in this country, as far as political discourse is concerned. >> the suspect is expected to face charges of assault with a deadly weapon, attempted homicide, and other felonies involved in the friday attack. the da plans to bring those charges tomorrow and the suspects arraignment is on tuesday, alex. >> one big question is how did paul pelosi make that 9-1-1 call? i know there's been all sorts of reporting, something about being able to say i need to use the bathroom or something? that is been out there. have you been able to confirm that? >> so, police have said that pelosi was able to make the call in a veiled, secret way so that when he was speaking on the phone with the 9-1-1 operator he was speaking in a way that the intruder did not know that he was on the phone with police. it seems like, when i spoke with the police chief yesterday, that paul was speaking in a way with the intruder so that the 9-1-1 operator could hear that he was in danger. this was, again, in a way that the intruder didn't know for a fact that he was on the phone that the 9-1-1 operator was able to elevate the call so officers could get there quickly. the police chief told me when they entered, they saw all the intruder attacked paul pelosi with that hammer. obviously, if he hadn't been able to make that call, who knows what could've happened, right? the police chief saying that the actions by paul pelosi making that call in the 9-1-1 operator was life-saving, alex. >> absolutely. what a story. thank you so much for the very latest on that. let's head into the midterm elections. just scientists away with control of congress hanging in the ballots. early voting has kicked off in several states with more than 21 million americans already casting their ballots. here's a look down at the breakdown by party so far. democrats are holding a healthy lead on the early voting fund. there are a number of issues passing people to the polls. a new emphasis poll shows that the economy, inflation, and abortion as the top three concerns ahead of the midterms. those issues driving early voters in new york this weekend. >> i think inflation, crime, the economy are going to be important right now. i think the place to actually make a change would be reproductive rights. >> we're currently going through difficult times economically, socially. sadly the republican candidate voted against the chips act which would provide great economic activity, stabilize -- >> now for some key races in certain states where it is down to the wire. joining us is nbc shaquille brewster in milwaukee and vaughn hillyard is in chandler, arizona. thank you welcome. we will start with you because president obama's in on the campaign trail energizing voters in those key midwestern states. what is the reaction from voters at the rally yesterday? >> you saw a lot of energy in that high school gym yesterday in milwaukee as they heard from former president obama and democrats here in wisconsin hope that last night's speech turns into people showing up to early voting locations like the one behind me. we know at least one candidate is -- urging people to come out. you are seeing bigger names, bigger events as we head towards that final midterm sprint to election day. >> an 11th hour, cross country campaign blitz to turn out voters. >> hello milwaukee! it is great to be back in michigan! >> only ten days! >> from first lady jill biden to barack obama, democrats sending their biggest stars to fight in battleground states. >> the reason i'm here is simple. i'm here to ask you to vote. mr. obama on an attack in an attempt to energize voters. >> he is not the person who's thinking about you, knows you, sees you! he should not be your senator for wisconsin! >> framing this election as a defense of democracy. >> he might be democracy's best hope in wisconsin. >> 90s from election day, more than 21 million americans have already cast a ballot. including president biden. voting saturday with his 18 year old granddaughter in delaware, who cast her very first ballot. >> i'm going to spend the rest of the time making the case that this is not a referendum, it is a choice. a final ballot choice. >> hello long island. >> the republicans say they are seeing tightening races across the country. >> this campaign is not worried about barack obama coming in at all, we have the momentum. >> an early morning council poll showing 11% of voters are still undecided. 83% of those undecided say the country is moving in the wrong direction. >> are you still undecided? >> i am a very undecided. i am more confused than ever. >> more confused than ever. i will tell you, it's not just democrats who are bringing out their bigger stars in the campaign trail. we will also see former president donald trump appear on the campaign trail next week. we will see him in florida, iowa, ohio, pennsylvania over the next couple of days before the midterms. you get a sense that both sides are flooding the zone, trying to pump out the turnout ahead of election day. >> well, that certainly the time to do it. thank you so much for that, shaq. >> let's go to arizona with ron hilliard's anna event for democratic gubernatorial candidate katie hobbs. what is the latest there and what is on the race for governor and senate there as we head down? >> it is the morning time in the desert and this is a moment in which katie hobbs is beginning canvassing, kicking off voters to go door to door in the east valley. this is a major -- this neighborhood is an area where it is a pot voting population that, historically, voted conservative yet showed a willingness, especially in 2020, to change party lines. that is why you see katie hobbs here in this particular neighborhood this morning. you should note though, when you are looking at the early vote that is coming in right now, democrats, despite being outraged by republicans in terms of the vote recount in the state of arizona right now are outpaced facing republicans an early ballot have been returned so far. what can we actually extrapolate from that data? it is so difficult because republicans have urged so many voters to go and vote in person on election day. i want to let you hear from katie hobbs earlier this morning. part of her conversation with velshi in california. take a listen. >> kayleigh cars unique in that she is only interested in a spectacle. that is what she creates every time she gets in front of the media. she threw a tantrum about the fact that i was going to get a half hour on the station that was airing the debate and she threw a tantrum about this burglary at my office. she is only interested in creating a spectacle. >> when you are heading into the last week of the campaign, alex. you at the point where the candidates are having back-to-back events. last may be right but 15 minutes down the road at tempe, arizona in the campus of central -- were kari lake was holding a campaign rally with the likes of blake masters, republican attorney general candidate, former director of national intelligence, mercedes slapper with her there. this is a moment here when you are talking about the final nine days. these candidates heavily focusing on the maricopa county area which makes up two thirds of the arizona electorate. we have shown, when it comes to the democrats here, they need to bring out some not only republican voters but a greater share of those independent voters to have any chance of pulling off a victory here. of course, it kari lake, the republican and another day or mallet rick about bookends are not naive to the fact that they have to convince, unlike donald trump was able to do in 2020 or mark weeks ali in 2018 or 2020, they ought to be able to hold on to those very voters here in the closing days. alex? >> paul, you've explained it very well. i thank you, we appreciate that. here's programming out. later today, 4 pm eastern that arizona cannot for governor katie hobbs and we invite you to watch msnbc on election night. with msnbc's rachel maddow leaving our coverage with joy wallace. with joy's nicole wallace, they are two separate people. no one in the south -- steve kornacki at the big board, he will be wearing his khaki pants, that you can guarantee. meanwhile, some new developments in this tragic story from seoul, south korea. hundreds of people were trampled during a halloween celebration. at least one american is among the dead. jacqui for us following that story from beijing for us. >> how are south korea's processing what has happened? >> alex, there is absolute shock. south korea is trying to reconcile with how this one a night and soul that was supposed to be festive and fun could go so horribly wrong. witnesses described huge crowds that couldn't move, then, quote fell like fell like dominoes. more than 150 people were killed in the crash. a warning, some of these videos may be distressing. >> the search for missing loved ones went all through the night and so did the procession of bodies. the death toll climbing to more than 150, now. mainly young people in their late teens and early twenties and mostly women. the scale and scope of the disaster is staggering. an estimated 100,000 people packed the popular area to celebrate halloween without covid rules. tight streets and alleyways 13 feet wide. witnesses they say they couldn't move, barely breathe, and were crushed in a slow motion stampede. video showing people on the ground getting cpr. >> waves were coming in from both sides and more people fell and i lost my friend. >> investigators are piecing together what happened and asking why, for such a big event, there was no apparent plan in place for crowd control. even emergency crews failed to reach the scene. several military personnel where they're helping with patrols and first aid. >> you see the bodies just, just a big lineup next to each other. all covered in blue bags. >> south korea's president called the scene to staff stress and declared a period of national mourning. city hotlines are flooded with reports people still missing as relatives and friends wait for news in grief. >> authorities say they have now identified most of the victims, including 25 foreigners, one of them american. more than 100 people are injured in the crush. at least two dozen of them are said to be in critical condition. it remains a desperate situation in seoul tonight with relatives and friends searching for information about loved ones and for lot answers about how this could happen. alex. >> absolutely horrifying. all right, janice, think you for that. ahead, the letter on ukraine released and retracted by the group of progressive democrats. someone who signed it will bring us perspective that you might not have heard. also, new reaction to the powerful sweep through battleground states from former president obama. how much will his speeches make a difference? 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and then if your family? there is that work with you? >> well, first we want to extend our thoughts about paul pelosi, the speaker, their family in this awful time. there is absolutely no winds excuse on any part of the political spectrum for what is happening. we are seeing this increased. there is a member i know who had to move from their house because of threats that they were receiving. i don't know a member i've talked to that hasn't received political threats. this is really been at an increase, especially since the trump administration. i think a lot of the rhetoric, the way the president kept himself talking in more violent terms and rallies, things like that. it is certainly lead to increase and we have factual -- of increase to members of congress. that has to stop. i'll be honest, there's a reason why a lot of us don't rush to go on tv. it's because i will get a lot of calls after this and there may very well be a threat in their. that is one of the problems with, i think, the current political environment. it has to stop. even worth, alex, if i can. i've seen online that there are now people questioning whether what happened really happened and trying to make that a conspiracy. van of rage i have one that happened is pretty anne -- >> there is no reigning in the crazy, i tell you. that is -- that your time in office encapsulates that period, how to different is the political environment now? you start in congress about a decade ago. how does it compare to then and how can we make the country safer for elected officials? >> next year, 30 years local and federal office i have been involved being in public service. i've never seen it like this. i've never seen the rhetoric, the level, the fact that people so much more overtly say things that used to be more clandestine and not their name. not leaving any kind of message under the and the threat over the voting machine, the message machine. now people are a little more blatant about that. they feel that they have got someone who has their back, because the rhetoric of donald trump went out there. just a time that we all need to respect. we are part of the human race, we need to be like humans i don't care if this happens a republican, a democrat, this is an awful situation. you can't have somebody trying to stop political activity by violence and this is something that we all have to stand up to. it doesn't matter where you are in the political spectrum. there should be a no-brainer. >> it affects everybody. let's move on to former resident bull rock obama who was campaigning for was constant democrat yesterday. here's part of his message to the gop, take a listen. >> this current crop of republican politicians are not interested in solving problems. they are interested in making you a angry. and then finding somebody the blame. they are hoping that that will distract from the fact that they don't have any answers of their own. >> president obama is clearly the strongest democrat messenger out there right now. do you wish that he had started earlier or is this exact amount in timing going to work best? >> well, it's great. this is the time when most people are paying attention in elections, honestly. it is helpful. i tell you the most powerful thing he did yesterday just a message around social security. we know that a lot of people are still concerned about the economy. that is part of why democrats in some places might not be as good a place as they should be but that is global inflation right? it is not about democrats or joe biden. what he pointed out yesterday in wisconsin is at a republican study committee has a plan to put social security in the chopping block every five years. ron johnson, mya senator want to put on the chopping block every year. we know that republicans have said they are going to go after roe v. wade and a half century later they were able to get rid of it. you have to believe them when you say that they're going to go after social security medicare and putting it on the chopping block. i think that was a really important message that the president said when he was in wisconsin yesterday. >> how much of a boost to think he will have a the ballot box, ultimately? >> i will tell you, i love barack obama's messaging. there is no one else who does it quite like that. >> and his delivery is great. >> his delivery. he is also a little bit -- barack obama unplugged. he doesn't have to have some of the stiffness needed to have, sometimes, when he was president. he's saying like it is. on issues like social security he was extremely powerful, everyone, whether it's themselves, their parents, grandparents she could be negatively affected by what the republicans want to do by putting on the chopping block. he just delivered that core economic message so well and we all need to be doing that in these closing days. >> let's turn to that letter in releasing the closing week, you are 29 of your colleagues put out this letter that has been narrow retracted urging the president to engage in direct talks to war to end with the war with ukraine. do you still believe what that letter says? the content? >> it was a 24-hour story that shows how important timing is in politics, right? it was a letter signed by most of us in july, some in june, that was when we first heard some rumblings about putin talking about nukes, there were some folks who wanted us to have a more active role than we were, which wasn't assistance to ukraine, we were having the presidents back and saying cue the policy on the table which is essentially what the letter says. for whatever inexplicable reason it got released three months later. as you, know timing is everything in politics. a letter that actually supported the president in our position on supporting ukraine became that we were somehow at a divide, by a news outlet that was probably confused by the timing of the letter, rightfully so. fortunately was taken out, the story is done, we support the president and efforts in supporting the people of ukraine. but we once don't want to do is send troops, as most americans don't want to send troops of our own there but it's important that we continue to -- >> and your eye with all those points and i think it was camilla -- journalist who said it was a misfire. difficult timing a 24 hours news stories. where i've made it a bit longer than 24 hours, but good to speak on. mark luke, and thank you. next, a legendary journalist john boot word calls don trump an unparalleled danger any says the trump tapes prove it. you have to hear them to believe them and you will hear them next. also, it is a grim statistic and keeps growing. they have now been 566 mass shootings in this country, this year. year ders, try the cooling, soothing relief or preparation h. because your derriere deserves expert care. preparation h. get comfortable with it. it's the subway series menu. 12 irresistible subs. the most epic sandwich roster ever created. ♪♪ it's subway's biggest refresh yet! >> tech: at safelite, we take care of vehicles ♪♪ with the latest technology. when my last customer discovered a crack in his car's windshield, he scheduled at safelite.com. safelite makes it easy. we're the experts at replacing your glass... ...and recalibrating your advanced safety system. >> customer: and they recycled my old glass. now that's a company i can trust. >> tech: don't wait. schedule today. ♪ pop rock music ♪ >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ (announcer) enough with the calorie counting, carb cutting, diet fatigue, and stress. just taking one golo release capsule with three balanced meals a day has been clinically proven to repair metabolism, optimize insulin levels, and balance the hormones that make weight loss easy. release works with your body, not against it, so you can put dieting behind you and go live your life. head to golo.com now to join the over 2 million people who have found the right way to lose weight and get healthier with golo. laundry truths: the bargain jug. ♪♪ that's a huge jug of detergent. yeah, isn't it a bargain? 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>> yeah, i got people, they come up with ideas. but the ideas are mine, bob. the ideas are mine. >> and then -- >> you want to know something? everything is mine. >> joining me now is peter baker, chief white house correspondent and msnbc political analysts who is also, of course, the author. of the trump white house 2017 and -- you know him pretty well, but from that book and beyond, peter. >> you hear trump there saying everything is mine. given what you found out writing this book, covering the white house during his years there. does this reflection on his presidency sound familiar to you? what does that say about how he viewed his role in power? >> it does sound familiar, of course alex. it's unfamiliar to us not just from the tapes, which are quite revelry, but also from the interviews we did with him for the divider and frankly the public comments after he was president of united states. everything is mine is how he sees the presidency, how he sees life in general basically. a very point -- point of view. he believed the presidents see was almost unlimited in power. he said in public, i have obsolete public authority to do this, that, and the other thing. when every state public power to do. absolute power under oracle two of the constitution, he was thinking. that is not what the article two says. it really defines why we got to the place that we did with january 6th because, to him there is no such thing as losing. he was something of going to accept it, not abide by the norms and standards it determine senior 250 years in this country. he was meant to use every lever of power could to hold on to power. i think that is what you hear in those tapes. >> peter, it is as if he is a dictator in a democracy. therein lies the constant rub a with donald trump. it's like he didn't understand his role in the democracy. would you agree with that? >> yeah, he doesn't believe in the system, basically as we have set it up. he derides it as a deep state or conspiracy theory where the illegitimate democrats renews media, whatever. what he really doesn't believe in are the checks and balances. the way we have constructed democratic governor. time and time again, who does he actually speak highly of? he speaks highly of the world autocrats. erdogan, putin, xi jinping, who does he criticize? he democrats the world democrats like angela merkel, macron, theresa may, even people here in united states. his outlook is always one of believing and strong man, two words in one word. that's the way he saw his presidency. >> let's hear another clip from woodward's interview with donald trump from to december five to 2019. here it is. >> huge change the republican party. do you realize that? >> 95% approval rating. nobody has ever been at, you know, ronald reagan was at 87. -- >> is this a movement? >> no. that i can tell you. i can tell -- you >> what do you think? >> it's the party of strength and common sense, both. you know? >> i don't say -- >> who is the air? >> the air will have to be determined. that's to be determined. but, okay, as an example. the republican party has always been known for disloyalty to each other. they always broke up. i will say this, and this isn't a threat because if they won against me they'll lose their election. even if they lost 5% my vote, it's because nobody has a base like mine. >> that was before the 2020 elections. was he overconfident about his role in the republican party now that we are nine days up to the midterms? has anything changed, peter? >> we will find out, of course. he is not wrong in the sense that he had a dominant place in the republican party of today. he does have an outsized proportion of the electorate that controls who the nominee will be. time and time again when indoors candace went against unendorsed candidates, basically, for primary elections and his candidate more often than not one. . he -- if they lose, people are going to say it's because he hoisted these election deniers and outlandish characters, emmett oz, so forth. you will have a test of his sway and capacity at this point, two years after he lost the general election. >> then we have to buckle up to see what comes next, directly from him. peter baker, again it is an excellent book. highly recommended to anybody. the divider. trump in the white house 2017 to 2021. a welcome read and always welcome to have. you thank, you friend. >> two key moment for the economy in the coming days both with potentially profound impact, more on that next. the biden ministration seizing upon positive an unexpected economic news. getting the word out on this could help democrats ahead of the midterms. those eat ails, ahead. those eat ails, ahead. ed by real stories of bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms. and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. this is where i want to be. call your doctor about sudden behavior changes or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children and young adults. elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke. report fever, confusion, stiff or uncontrollable muscle movements, which may be life threatening or permanent. these aren't all the serious side effects. now i'm back where i belong. ask your doctor if latuda is right for you. pay as little as zero dollars for your first prescription. the virus that causes shingles is sleeping... in 99% of people over 50. it's lying dormant, waiting... and could reactivate. shingles strikes as a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. and it could wake at any time. think you're not at risk for shingles? 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>> you know, alex, i am reminded of the old line is the economy stupid? it is one of the import american issues where the americans think of the economy and what happened to the americans, good, bad, different is important voters. americans trust republicans more than democrats on the house of the economy. we are seeing to what democrats are doing trying to fix that problem. they're trying to get out a full court press against this country. for you see president obama in michigan in wisconsin yesterday. the first ladies in new york, new hampshire. even bernie sanders is out doing a tour of western states, to try to drive up turnout and get people excited about the economy and tell people what the democrats have done over the past two years. weather was the chips, act slayton, reduction act. that may not be in place until january 1st, but things that could help democrats in the future. and help all americans in the future. present biden, for his part, is here in wilmington. he voted yesterday after he voted he had some thoughts about how his strategy when it comes to campaigning is. here's what he had to say. >> i am feeling good. i have been feeling now in 36 constituencies either campaigning for specific candidates or are going with the candidate who is doing some but -- in pittsburgh. i'm going to be going for the remainder of the week. i will be spending the rest of the time making the case that this is not a referendum, it is a choice. a fundamental choice. a choice between two very different visions for the country. that is what it is about. >> so, president biden will be traveling this week to new mexico a florida campaign for democrats across the states there. we now know where he's going to be spending his midterm election eve, it will be with democrats in maryland. alex? >> that makes sense. thank you very much gary brown balk for that. despite the encouraging news, mortgage rates are another story. in a 20 year high last week. what the federal reserve meets on wednesday and it could push even higher. nbc's -- joining us from san jose, california. there is no shortage of news on the economy this weekend no shortage of spin on the campaign trail. what is the latest? >> yeah, alex, the spin doctors on both sides are going to have plenty to work with here. the economic picture is particularly complicated right now. let's take the gross domestic product report that you are talking about earlier. yes, indeed the economy did grow in the july to september period up 2.6%. within that, there are parts of the economy that were contracted. things like motor vehicles, home construction definitely. really, anything that is susceptible to inflation and interest rates. that is what we are dealing with. inflation is still running at 40 year highs and the federal reserve is aggressively trying to rein latin by raising interest rates. no where do we see that more pro family than in the housing market. just rates, as you said, topping 7% for the first time in 20 years this past week. look at what that does to the monthly payment here in california for a medium priced home. there's a 40% increase from where it would have been a year ago. realtors across the country are saying that the ftc a change in the starting market, but they are saying they did not see icing crash like they saw several years ago. it is more market that is returning to more normal. >> this is very different from 2007, 2008. our properties still have incredible amounts of equity. there is not many via very many people who are in a very tight financial position that they still have to sell or which sea short sales or foreclosures like in the past. that is more risk right now. it is just coming down to affordability and that kind of settling in and slowing the pace of the market. very different from before. >> things are going to start getting even trickier though, this week. the federal reserve will meet this week and it is widely expected to raise interest rates again. aggressively. by another three quarters of a point. they will be paying close attention to the economists, everybody else, to language in that. are they going to taper off those rate interest rate increases. friday you get the unemployment report expected to show a solid job growth. that is good, but still a tight labor market. that is not good for inflation. alex. >> i have to tell you, it mail maybe normal where we are right now but homeowners in first time home buyers sure like the just prior to normal. i know a lot of them are hoping it goes back to that. it might take a while, though. thank you for that. new in key january six deadlines for donald trump this week. what are they in why are they so critical what happened when one quart hearing involving three trump lawyers and the doj. we know it involved mar-a-lago. those details, next. next. you could manufacture a whole new way of manufacturing. disrupt buying habits before they disrupt your business. and fuel the search for what comes next. so...what are you waiting for? 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is there any way he can avoid appearing before the committee? >> first, number one, i am sure he will delay. this committee could cease to be in existence in january. the midterm elections, of course, could change the party in power. if republicans control the party, no doubt they will expand the committee and he could run out the clock. that is a scenario that is fairly likely, depending on how the elections turnout. even if democrats retain power, i think it is likely that he will engage in a protracted delay by asserting executive privilege. there are certainly some matters covered by executive privilege, but it is one that can be outweighed when there is a stronger national interest. it is one that belongs to the office of the presidency -- i think if the committee stays intact and if they persist long enough, they could push him to the senate's testimony. if he does testify would require someone to enforce it we will. see if the justice department is up to. that >> he could claim, less but merely as a delay tactic. it is your supposition that at some point they would say, this does not apply in this case. >> i think so. there is already been a judge on the findings when it comes to the presidential records at the white house tried to block from being turned over from the national archives. that is relying on the president of the united states, that when there is a strong enough national interest they can outweigh executive privilege. it would be simply qualified privilege. the next case is the ones that make sense if it turns over -- the investigation. it was a criminal investigation and not a crime congressional one. this decision relating to the documents was part of the january six committee. i think along the same lines, eventually, is executive privilege with the yield here. >> on thursday, three of trump's four personal lawyers attended a sealed hearing before a.d.a. judge. what was not about? could -- the da judge, my goodness. could they be trying to cut a deal or could this be about allowing another mar-a-lago search? >> yeah, i think it is unlikely that it is about trying to cut a deal. i don't think that they would be at the courthouse to do that. i think they would try to negotiate that at a private office outside of cameras but i think it is likely that they are litigating a grand jury issue. when there are matters a before the grand jury is a judge that handles them, but in secret to ensure the proceedings are secret. and there's likely some assertion of privilege here in terms of witness testimony by someone at like pat cipollone or for documents, perhaps the subpoena asked for additional documents. it seems likely that there is some privilege here, but executive privilege might have to yield. if this fifth amendment privilege against self incrimination that would be harder. there's even -- reduction privilege, which means that you ask me for the documents -- if i simply turn them over to you in response to that subpoena i confess to a crime. you have to give the production a loan to incriminate you. even that -- >> okay, barbara mcquade, thank you so much for clarifying the questions. we appreciate that. next, for all of you to the midterms. republicans take control of the house, they are already talking impeachment. my political panel talks about the idea and how it seems destined to backfire. first, gop condemnation for the attack on nancy pelosi's husband. one prominent republican has not said a word about it, which begs the question, why not? 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