our cyber correspondent, joe tidy, went to ukraine and sent this report. on the outskirts of kyiv, the latest group of drone pilots being trained for the front line. the location is being kept a secret but this instructor is teaching recruits how to use the small drones to spot signs of enemy troops and help guide artillery attacks. oleka has nearly finished her training. this is her new brigade in action. the drone used to help the military aim. this has become a major tool for both sides. so much so, the chinese manufacturer's has banned sales to russia and ukraine. still, thousands flow to the front line. the demand for drones is so great, ukraine has upped its own money factoring, recently relaxing import laws to speed up production lines. it has also launched design competitions like this one, paid for from a successful public campaign. backed by celebrities like star wars actor mark hamill, the campaign has raised more than $108 million since last summer. nearly 3500 drones have been acquired so far. 400 hobby drones have been sent direct in the mail. and it is notjust foreigners being asked to donate. in service stations and many shops, the fundraising is prominent. this man was until recently deputy prime minister. in his government office, he shows me the secret design for a new type of kamikaze drone. he says the campaign is about front line combat and protecting the lives of soldiers defending ukraine but the minister has posted online about new drones able to fly to moscow and back. and russia has accused ukraine of carrying out offensive drone strikes on its territory. it claims this one was shot down near moscow. you are asking people around the world to donate drones, money for drones, for the defence of ukraine, but what about the tax on russia, offensive attacks over the border? but as a leader of the country, would you condone drones going over the border? ukraine's mod is refusing to say if its army of drones is being used on the offensive in russia. meanwhile, the donations continue to pour in and more drones take to the skies. the jailed russian opposition leader, alexei navalny, has told a court in moscow he is now being investigated on terrorism charges. he said he'd been told by his investigators that he'd be tried by a military court. mr navalny�*s anti—corruption foundation has been accused of being behind the bombing of a cafe in st petersburg in early april which killed the prominent pro—war blogger, vladlen tatarsky. an investigator has said 11 people have now been put on an international wanted list linked to mr navalny. he is serving a lengthy prison sentence after being found guilty of extremism. live now to moscow to speak to our russia editor, steve rosenberg. steve, welcome. alexei navalny, vladimir putin's biggest critic, most vocal critic of the most well—known critic. what happened today? well-known critic. what happened toda ? , , , �* , today? lets rewind slightly. because ever since alex _ today? lets rewind slightly. because ever since alex in _ today? lets rewind slightly. because ever since alex in the _ today? lets rewind slightly. because ever since alex in the valley - today? lets rewind slightly. because ever since alex in the valley was - ever since alex in the valley was sent to prison in 2021 for alleged parole violations, he has faced more and more charges. more and more criminal cases and more and more prison time. so he was then given another nine years, convicted of fraud. it's important to say that his supporters insist that all of the charges, past and present against him, are politically motivated. as you mentioned, he is vladimir putin's most prominent critic. last autumn, mr novelli said that he was facing another set of charges, new charges of promoting extremism and terrorism. and predict that that could add 30 more years to his time behind bars. today what happened, there was a technical hearing about this new case to decide how many days mr novelli would be given to look through, to study the case against him before it goes to trial. we are talking about hundred 96 volumes in this case, he was given until to study the case. at this technical hearing he said that one of the investigators had told him that part of this case had been taken out and a whole new case had been made around it. he is also going to be accused of terrorism. so in fact, there could be two court cases, two more court cases, against mr navalny. he predicted today that the terrorism charges could see him being given life imprisonment. what being given life imprisonment. what do we know of _ being given life imprisonment. what do we know of itself, _ being given life imprisonment. what do we know of itself, because a couple of weeks ago his supporters claimed that he was being poisoned prison? claimed that he was being poisoned rison? . , , claimed that he was being poisoned rison? ., , ,., claimed that he was being poisoned rison? ., , _, . prison? there has been some concern for his health. _ prison? there has been some concern for his health. we _ prison? there has been some concern for his health. we signed _ prison? there has been some concern for his health. we signed today - prison? there has been some concern for his health. we signed today in - prison? there has been some concern for his health. we signed today in a i for his health. we signed today in a television screen, he appeared by video screen, by video link from the prison colony where he is currently at. he spoke to the court by video link. he has been constantly in and out of solitary confinement, i think he has just been out of solitary confinement, i think he hasjust been put out of solitary confinement, i think he has just been put back in solitary confinement in the prison colony for the 14th time. so his supporters are concerned about the way that he's been treated there. steve, for now, thank you. the islamic state mastermind believed to have been responsible for the 2021 bombing that killed dozens at kabul�*s airport has been killed by the taliban. 70 civilians and 13 american troops were killed when a bomber detonated his device among packed crowds as people tried to flee afghanistan, in august 2021. the officials did not reveal the name of the man who was the leader of an islamic state cell. they said the leader died weeks ago, but it took time to confirm his death. sethjones is senior vice president of the centre for strategic and international studies and told us the details about the killing are still pretty vague. we don't know exactly the specifics around how this individual within the islamic state was killed. i think the data that has come out and the assessments that have come out of the un security council reports on afghanistan, as well as a leaked document, what they indicated there is significant terrorism going on within afghanistan, so i think what we can say is that while the taliban controls the government in kabul, that afghanistan has a very concerning terrorism problem. this case, this was the taliban effectively conducting an attack. i don't think it tells that that the situation is under control. president biden and the south korean president yoon suk yeol are due to hold talks later today against a backdrop of growing tension in south east asia. mr yoon, who's on a 6 day tour of the us, has already had meetings with vice—president kamala harris. 0ur soul correspondent jean mackenzie expalined why the south korean president's trip is so significant. mruni mr uni certainly get in the red carpet treatment in washington. he is only the second person to get a state visit under mr biden's ten year. the two leaders are spending two days together, so they are holding formal talks today and then mr yoon is addressing congress tomorrow. he is the first president tomorrow. he is the first president to be afforded this opportunity in more than a decade. so why such a warm welcome? these countries, as you say, are very linked. they have a military allowance that has been in place for 70 years of this year. that is part of what they are celebrating today. this alliance was formed after the korean war which the two sides fought together, so it is an alliance that they both say is forged in blood and this relationship is extremely important for the united states. they wanted to be as strong as possible because the us strategy for countering china is to build up its alliances in asia. at the moment, the us is responsible for south korea's defence, so you have tens of thousands of us troops stationed here. what are the us gets in return is a military foothold here in asia. you get some sense ofjust how important b—sides are to each other. lets show some live pictures now of the khartoum skyline — you can see there an airport there in the distance. we know that the lines of buses and other vehicles have continued to leave the sudanese capital, of course the rocketing price of fuel and bus tickets... thousands of sudanese have fled to neighbouring countries like chad, egypt and south sudan. the un has expressed concern about the numbers who will need assistance. by the departure of western nationals from khartoum is beginning to wind down, with both germany and france saying that all of their citizens have left the country, a third plane carried british nationals and has arrived in cyprus. stay with us for the latest on bbc news. hello again, for many of us today to be a cloudy day some sunny spells. high pressure is going to be in charge of the weather at the moment. this was a friend from the atlantic is trying to bump into it but it is a fairly weak friend so what is going to do is going to introduce more cloud and at times we will see some drizzle and hill fog across the southern half of the country. moving further north, there is still a bit of cloud around with some showers in the east. the sunny skies will be across the north of scotland but even here and in the northern isles we could see some winter us in the tops of the hills. temperatures will be seven to a0 degrees north to south. another thing worth mentioning is the pollen levels, it is tree pollen that we are talking about at the moment, and the levels are high across many of the areas. as we head for the evening and overnight, we will still hang onto quite a lot of cloud, there will be some clear skies but to the renault coming across the west of northern ireland pushing north eastwards. it will be heavy, especially across the northern isles where we could have 25 to a0 millilitres. some flashes of rain will be getting into the south—west, but where we have a clear skies, south—west, but where we have a clearskies, it south—west, but where we have a clear skies, it is where it'll be coldest with pockets of frost. tomorrow, our weather friend continues to push north eastwards across scotland and come eastwards into the south—west of england and wales. the rain continues in scotland and there will be snow ahead of it that will turn back to rain to add to the end of the day. there will be heavy rain coming in towards the south—west and quarter, some of that could be thundery, head of that and to the north of it, we are looking at quite a bit of cloud. there will be skies and sunny intervals with temperatures up to 15 as we push down to st helier. from thursday into friday, we still have this south—westerly breeze bringing in this milder air to all but the northern isles. so on friday itself, there will still be a bit of cloud around that will be clearing off into the north of the continent. the rain in scotland will continue to push northwards and it will be brightening up in the west throughout the day. if anything, that brightness and sunshine will push a bit further east through the day as well. milder in aberdeen, ten, 1a in glasgow, 17 is likely to be the top temperature in london. as we head into the ensuing few days, it looks like it is going to turn that little bit water, especially in the course of saturday. there will be some sunshine but some say showers. shares in the us bank first republic slumped a0% as regulators scramble to ease investor nerves. and the winds of change will tell you what europe needs to ramp up its wind power to ensure a greener future. that was on tuesday. the bank shares are 90% lower over the past two trading sessions. this comes after first republic said customers had withdrawn $100 billion in the recent banking turmoil, which led to the collapse of silicon valley bank. let's spring to mock ingram, senior market strategist at active trade. good to have you with us. talk about what is going on, why the seller. the deposit outflow at first republic was absolutely horrifying. the difficulties in the mid—size banking sector in the us at this point were documented. but the $102 billion of outflows that the bank revealed yesterday in its results were well above expectations. even though the bank has set that since then, since the end of march, the deposit situation stabilised, there is still great scepticism out there. the bank is happy to take fairly drastic measures to draw a line and the situation, which includes sacking staff. the problem at the moment as it is a buyers market. they are likely to crystallise all the losses and hence perhaps another downward leg in the spiral. that is being reflected in the share price. all the while, regulators on wall street are trying to calm nerves and reassure the industry as a whole that things are more secure. are they succeeding? i5 that things are more secure. are they succeeding?— that things are more secure. are they succeeding? is the fact that we are sittin: they succeeding? is the fact that we are sitting down _ they succeeding? is the fact that we are sitting down again _ they succeeding? is the fact that we are sitting down again a _ they succeeding? is the fact that we are sitting down again a month - they succeeding? is the fact that we j are sitting down again a month after silicon valley bank suggests probably not, at least at the margin. one of the issues that keeps getting raped is is this the canary in the coal mine? is this a taste of things to come in the broader banking sector? the regulators are trying to calm nerves and they are saying it isn't a systemwide problem. i would saying it isn't a systemwide problem. iwould point saying it isn't a systemwide problem. i would point out that the common thread in all of these bank failures we have seen so far, including credit suisse, is the rising interest rate we have seen globally. this causes a repricing of risk. banks are in the business of taking on longer term risks and balancing with funding from short—term deposits. when the interest rate environment goes up, when interest rates go up, that balancing act become significantly more difficult and banks which have a handle on those risks, which have handled those risks badly, which had poor risk management are unable to negotiate that high wire balancing act. that is why we are seeing some failures at the moment.— act. that is why we are seeing some failures at the moment. good to have our failures at the moment. good to have your thoughts- _ failures at the moment. good to have your thoughts. mark _ failures at the moment. good to have your thoughts. mark ingram, - failures at the moment. good to have your thoughts. mark ingram, senior l your thoughts. mark ingram, senior market analyst at active trade. let's turn our attention to the united states, where president biden is seeking re—election. his main promise is his claim to be transforming the economy and reviving former manufacturing areas in the famous rust belt of america. under the inflation reduction out, the us is pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into green industries of the future. faisal islam has this special report now from kentucky. from the fields of west kentucky, the farms are giving way to a different type of grain harvest. the spacer in the ground, the excavators are shifting tonnes of soil, the usa is digging for victory in the green high—tech industries of the future, and they are in a hurry. we industries of the future, and they are in a hurry-— are in a hurry. we are shovel ready with our project — are in a hurry. we are shovel ready with our project when _ are in a hurry. we are shovel ready with our project when we _ are in a hurry. we are shovel ready with our project when we receive . are in a hurry. we are shovel ready i with our project when we receive the support from the government. it's like the contract. it's so big. imark like the contract. it's so big. work started here _ like the contract. it's so big. work started here at _ like the contract. it's so big. work started here at this _ like the contract. it's so big. work started here at this electric - started here at this electric vehicle battery plant after $500 million of government money was granted for the introduction plant and a new inflation reduction act. buyers of cars will also get subsidies only if they are made in america. fir subsidies only if they are made in america. . ., america. or the lithium, cobalt... the result— america. or the lithium, cobalt... the result is _ america. or the lithium, cobalt... the result is that _ america. or the lithium, cobalt... the result is that these _ america. or the lithium, cobalt... the result is that these powders, | the result is that these powders, the most expensive input into an electric battery, perhaps even entirely made in china up to now will, gangster recycling old batteries, made in america for the they said the uss is woody leapfrogged europe in this market. this is no less than a total transformation of the us economy, with thousands of projects like this fronted by trillions of dollars of public money. in order to wrest control of the industries of the future from china. but it could also be the start of a giant carve up of globaljobs in those industries, because european governments are very worried that european manufacturers also having their heads turned and setting up shop in america so the eu is going to do exactly the same thing. which raises serious questions for the uk, whether to follow suit, whether we can afford to follow suit or whether it's just too late. if can afford to follow suit or whether it'sjust too late.— it'sjust too late. if the uk is auoin it'sjust too late. if the uk is going to _ it'sjust too late. if the uk is going to compete _ it'sjust too late. if the uk is going to compete with - it'sjust too late. if the uk is| going to compete with what's happening in the us, a similar level of incentives or favourable legislative environment or framework needs to be put in place, so that hasn't taken place yet but it certainly could. her now, as then, the primary motivator _ her now, as then, the primary motivator is _ her now, as then, the primary motivator is not _ her now, as then, the primary motivator is not the _ her now, as then, the primary i motivator is not the environment her now, as then, the primary - motivator is not the environment but jobs in left behind areas. this motivator is not the environment but jobs in left behind areas.— jobs in left behind areas. this is 'ust one jobs in left behind areas. this is just one of _ jobs in left behind areas. this is just one of 100 _ jobs in left behind areas. this is just one of 100 mind _ jobs in left behind areas. this is just one of 100 mind that - jobs in left behind areas. this is just one of 100 mind that they l jobs in left behind areas. this is l just one of 100 mind that they set down in west kentucky. just one of100 mind that they set down in west kentucky.— just one of 100 mind that they set down in west kentucky. these areas ofthe down in west kentucky. these areas of the u 0k — down in west kentucky. these areas of the u ok have _ down in west kentucky. these areas of the u ok have long _ down in west kentucky. these areas of the u ok have long been - down in west kentucky. these areas of the u ok have long been left - of the u ok have long been left behind and notjust because of the transition to green energy. artefacts of transition to green energy. artefa cts of a transition to green energy. artefacts of a lost era, and so these massive investments are being channelled by the biden white house purposefully into regions like west kentucky and west virginia. in some cases, old mine being paid union wages to fill in the minds, all preparing a new green industry factory, the hope to turn the rust belt into a pan american battery about before the next election, but there are doubts. when you hear president biden saying the rust belt can turn into a battery belt, what do you think? irate can turn into a battery belt, what do you think?— can turn into a battery belt, what do ou think? ~ u, do you think? we welcome the funding at the 'obs do you think? we welcome the funding at the jobs but — do you think? we welcome the funding at the jobs but i _ do you think? we welcome the funding at the jobs but i want _ do you think? we welcome the funding at the jobs but i want him _ do you think? we welcome the funding at the jobs but i want him to _ do you think? we welcome the funding at the jobs but i want him to come - at thejobs but i want him to come from washington, dc down here and see first—hand how these people have suffered for several years. he needs to see it first hand. when a person is unemployed, and there are no jobs, there is no hope. without hope, life has no meaning for the soon enough, the rust belt railway will be carrying electric vehicles rather than coal. the us government pouring trillions in to ensure its green future is made in the usa, with economic consequences for everyone else. that is the economic challenge for president biden. now he is the frontrunner. what it is light for the economy? let's look at what he has achieved in his third term. the electoral bit comes as america is navigating uncertain economic waters, and the us president can gloat on the jobs front. look at this chart, employment in rising nicely until the pandemic, with thejob market cratered since joe the pandemic, with thejob market cratered sincejoe biden took office, it has steadily increased under his watch, over 12.5 million jobs have been created. the unemployment rate is at a 50 year low. you have to remember the context in which these jobs were created. in the middle of a pandemic. policies his administration put in place suffered economic blow covid—19 the bounce back has been far from smooth. the worst economic metric on biden but the watch has been inflation. this chart shows inflation pretty steady until 2022, when inflation hit the highest rate in a generation over that summer. that is because, as the us economy emerged from the pandemic, it struggled with supply chain issues that pushed up prices, and that strong jobs growth we talked about contributed to the further price pressure. inflation is now ticking down, but it is still above the federal reserve's 2% target, posing an outstanding risk to the biden economy to its one over which white house has little influence. joe biden wants to make sure voters credit him for the improvement in the economy while at the same time drawing a contract with the gop ahead of the looming showdown over raising the country's borrowing limit which, in the extreme, could inflict lasting damage on the economy. in other news.... amazon could soon be forced to recognise a trade union in the uk for the first time. the gmb union says it has enrolled a majority of workers at amazon's coventry warehouse which qualifies them for recognition by law. if amazon says no, it could still be forced upon the company, which means the tech giant will have to negotiate with workers about salaries, holidays and sick pay. the bank of england's top economist has said people in the uk need to accept that they are poorer otherwise prices will continue to rise. huw pill told an american podcast that there was a "reluctance to accept that, yes, we're all worse off". he said that higher wages could feed price inflation, which has been high in the uk for almost two years. spotify reports it now has over half a billion active users as the music streaming organisation expands into more markets. premium subscribers, accounted for most revenue, rose 15% to 210 million in the third quarter of the year. the company also posted a first—quarter operating loss of $172 million, and paired to a loss of 6.6 a year ago. british american tobacco is to pay $635 million plus interest to us authorities, opted subsidiary admitted selling cigarettes to north korea, violating sanctions. us authorities said the settlement related to activity in north korea between 2007 and 2017 the company but had said we deeply regret the misconduct. and here in the uk, pret a manger has hiked the price of its five—a—day coffee subscription service by 20% to £30 a month. the chain said the new deal would also entitle customers to 10% off every item of food or drink sold in its outlets. pret a manger launched the subscription in september 2020 after sales plunged during covid lockdowns. let me show you what the numbers looking like at this stage, and those are not the numbers. the ftse 100 not to me a great start to the day, some of those fears about what is happening in the united particularly an economic slowdown, and whether it could tip into recession, worrying investors. we will keep an eye on all the stories for you. will keep an eye on all the stories foryou. see will keep an eye on all the stories for you. see you soon. goodbye. the last time i saw him, he was effectively god. david is at reading's stadium this evening to cheer on luton. she reading's stadium this evening to cheer on luton.— cheer on luton. she save my life, thank god- _ cheer on luton. she save my life, thank god. but _ cheer on luton. she save my 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that. the best_ save my life, simple as that. the best friend — save my life, simple as that. the best friend i've got. you can't get a better_ best friend i've got. you can't get a better friend. best friend i've got. you can't get a betterfriend. i best friend i've got. you can't get a better friend. iwould be disappointed if we don't keep in contact — disappointed if we don't keep in contact. we have said that we will. ambulance — contact. we have said that we will. ambulance staff have been at the stadium this evening demonstrating the same cpr skills that pepper used to give other supporters the confidence to step up if needed. at the etihad later, arsenal play manchester city, you are right behind them and with momentum for the gunners form has taken a hit in the gunners form has taken a hit in the last couple of matches, which was again struggling southampton and west ham. john watson is at the etihad with more of the build—up. the spotlight is once again falling on the etihad stadium here in manchester, as it so often does for manchester, as it so often does for manchester city. their players often look unflustered in their relentless pursuit of silverware. they have one four of the last five premier league titles. whoever wins later, the titles. whoever wins later, the title will be in their hands. not that both managers see it that way. we are toted over the top we know we have to go to the etihad for the after that, there are another five very difficult games. that game is going to be really important. it will define the season. it’s will define the season. it's important- _ will define the season. it's important. there - will define the season. it's important. there are still many tough _ important. there are still many tough games for both sides. to have the chance _ tough games for both sides. to have the chance in our hands, of course, they— the chance in our hands, of course, they have _ the chance in our hands, of course, they have the — the chance in our hands, of course, they have the chance in their hands because, _ they have the chance in their hands because, if— they have the chance in their hands because, if they win, it all depends on them _ because, if they win, it all depends on them if— because, if they win, it all depends on them. if you win, definitely, destiny— on them. if you win, definitely, destiny will be in our hands. so man destiny will be in our hands. ’ir many fascinating destiny will be in our hands. 5r many fascinating subplots, not least the current arsenal manager mikel arteta, who won two premier league titles, working alongside pep guardiola, while at manchester city to tip it is to cycle in this one. and how do you stop the manchester city striker erling haaland? that is the question arsenal will be asking themselves three more goals for erling haaland and he will surpass the record for the most goals in a premier league season. you won't want to keep your eyes off it later. liverpool have the chance to move above tottenham and go six if they can beat west ham at the london stadium. the hammers, despite that win overfellow stadium. the hammers, despite that win over fellow regulation winners bournemouth, put some distance between themselves and the bottom three jurgen between themselves and the bottom threejurgen klopp knows his liverpool side can't take anything for granted. hate liverpool side can't take anything for granted-— for granted. we have to prove ourselves. — for granted. we have to prove ourselves, so _ for granted. we have to prove ourselves, so that's _ for granted. we have to prove ourselves, so that's it. - we have a lot to like in the last few games. we have a lot to like in the last few games-— we have a lot to like in the last few games. we have a lot to like in the last few names. ., . . , few games. those four matches in the premier league _ few games. those four matches in the premier league late _ few games. those four matches in the premier league late on _ few games. those four matches in the premier league late on wednesday i premier league late on wednesday that chelsea and brentford go head to head frank lampard still searching for his first win in charge the club since taking over after graham potter resigned. a huge game for nottingham forest, who are second from bottom. they face brighton later. the fa cup final, the manchester derby between city and united, the match at wembley on june the 3rd will kick off at 3pm after police deemed the later kick—off time was high—risk, even the two are big rivals, as well as logistics, with fans having to travel back north of the saturday. it will be the first time the game has started at 3pm since manchester city beat stoke in 2011. a performance to remember for gerona striker somebody, performance to remember for gerona strikersomebody, in performance to remember for gerona striker somebody, in la liga. performance to remember for gerona strikersomebody, in la liga. he scored all four goals in their victory over real madrid. the argentinian only touch the ball 15 times and scored two in each half against the reigning champions, whose focus is on the champions league real madrid are 11 points behind leaders barcelona in the title success. gerona went ninth with the win. it's day 12 of the world snooker championship in sheffield and we could be on for a couple of major upsets in the quarterfinals. anthony mcgill keeps having to fight back against 20—year—old chinese debutant, the lowest ranked player left in the tournament at 80 in the world to the scotsman has taken the lead for the first time since the opening frame, going 6—5 ahead. the winner will face world number one and seven time world champion ronnie o'sullivan or belgian luca brecel. it is also neck and neck on the other table, jak jones, ranks 52, holding his own against world number three mark allen, a century break saw him bring the match back to 10—10. formula 1 is to introduce a new format for sprint races, starting at this weekend's azerbaijan grand prix. the races have now been made independent of the grand prix and will have their own qualifying session, known as the 'sprint shootout�*. qualifying to set the grid for the main grand prix will be held on friday and this will be followed by a shorter qualifying session, to the same knockout format, on saturday to set the sprint grid. in the nba, the nuggets have sealed their places in the western conference semifinals in the play—offs. the suns beat the clippers and the nuggets add to malnourished to that, who scored 35 points for the western conference top seeds to beat the timberwolves. they are through to the semifinals for the fourth time in five seasons. they clinch the series a—1. and that's all the sport for now. going to interject to welcome viewers from bbc news. you are watching politics life. we are talking about the labour party and talking about the labour party and talking to somebody who has quit the party relatively recently because she doesn't feel that labour represent working people any more. katherine, you are working class. you would like to talk to somebody like anne mchardy, could you persuade her tojoin you? she like anne mchardy, could you persuade her to join you? persuade her to 'oin you? she sounds like a really — persuade her to join you? she sounds like a really clever _ persuade her to join you? she sounds like a really clever lady. _ persuade her to join you? she sounds like a really clever lady. the - like a really clever lady. the shropshire wales border is a beautiful part of the world. a fantastic childhood. the question for the labour party is probably why is somebody like me not a member of the labour party? i was raised in manchester when sir graham stringer was leader of the council. my dad is a labour man. my grandad was a co—op milkman. when i sat down ten years ago and read all the manifestos, and felt the conservative party was my natural home. it is a mixture of responsibility with your money. the values on the type of society you want to be in. we are a broad church coalitions in the conservative and labour movement. but ultimately you cannot overturn a democratic vote and say that you want to rejoin the eu. d0 and say that you want to re'oin the eu. y ., ~ and say that you want to re'oin the eu. _, ~ ., and say that you want to re'oin the eu. do you like what you have heard from katherine? _ eu. do you like what you have heard from katherine? no! _ eu. do you like what you have heard from katherine? no! i— eu. do you like what you have heard from katherine? no! i am _ eu. do you like what you have heard from katherine? no! i am never- eu. do you like what you have heard i from katherine? no! i am never going to en'o in: from katherine? no! i am never going to enjoying the _ from katherine? no! i am never going to enjoying the conservative _ from katherine? no! i am never going to enjoying the conservative party. . to enjoying the conservative party. —— to join the conservative party. look at the area, nor the structure, where i did a lot of my growing up. —— north shropshire. i would where i did a lot of my growing up. —— north shropshire. iwould be where i did a lot of my growing up. —— north shropshire. i would be more likely to vote lib dem or green. on the other side of the border i might vote clyde comrie. == the other side of the border i might vote clyde comrie.— vote clyde comrie. -- played simmering- _ vote clyde comrie. -- played simmering. i— vote clyde comrie. -- played simmering. i would - vote clyde comrie. -- played simmering. i would love - vote clyde comrie. -- played simmering. i would love to l vote clyde comrie. -- played i simmering. i would love to have vote clyde comrie. -- played - simmering. i would love to have a cup of— simmering. i would love to have a cup of tea — simmering. i would love to have a cup of tea with you!— simmering. i would love to have a cup of tea with you! thank you very much. cup of tea with you! thank you very much- stay — cup of tea with you! thank you very much. stay with _ cup of tea with you! thank you very much. stay with us _ cup of tea with you! thank you very much. stay with us a _ cup of tea with you! thank you very much. stay with us a little - cup of tea with you! thank you very much. stay with us a little bit - much. stay with us a little bit longer while we continue the discussion. georgie, a colleague at the new statesman, has done an interview withjohn the new statesman, has done an interview with john mcdonnell, the interview withjohn mcdonnell, the former shadow interview with john mcdonnell, the former shadow chancellor. he accuses labour of intimidatory bullying towards jeremy corbyn and labour of intimidatory bullying towardsjeremy corbyn and says there is clearly a faction that seems more interested in destroying the left than winning the next election. explain some of the context of that? firstly, i should say it isjohn mcdonnell making those accusations, not my colleague who has tweeted it! yes, you can read this interview in the new statesman this week. but look, the left wing of the labour party is in crisis at the moment. diane abbott has had the whip removed. she is the only one of the carbon project to a still a labour mp. there is a huge amount of anxiety and upset over the fact that jeremy corbyn will not be standing as the labour candidate in islington north, my constituency. he might stand as an independent. we don't know. there is still king —— there is still a refusal among carbon supporters to accept the reasons for that decision by keir starmer, which are to do with his reaction to the report on anti—semitism in the party. he said i even after seeing all the evidence he thought the problem is exaggerated. he refused to accept the findings. his response has meant he has been deselected as the labour candidate in that seat and see left wing of the party are very upset. d0 and see left wing of the party are very upset-— very upset. do you think the treatment — very upset. do you think the treatment of _ very upset. do you think the treatment of the _ very upset. do you think the treatment of the left - very upset. do you think the treatment of the left side i treatment of the left side of the labour party has been fair? trio. treatment of the left side of the labour party has been fair? no, i don't. labour party has been fair? no, i don't- corbyn _ labour party has been fair? no, i don't. corbyn is _ labour party has been fair? no, i don't. corbyn is also _ labour party has been fair? no, i don't. corbyn is also my - labour party has been fair? no, i don't. corbyn is also my mp. - labour party has been fair? no, i don't. corbyn is also my mp. whether he stands _ don't. corbyn is also my mp. whether he stands as— don't. corbyn is also my mp. whether he stands as an independent or not is for— he stands as an independent or not is for the _ he stands as an independent or not is for the future. he may not. i think— is for the future. he may not. i think other— is for the future. he may not. i think other parts of... i don't think— think other parts of... i don't think of— think other parts of... i don't think of myself as left. i think of myself— think of myself as left. i think of myself i — think of myself as left. i think of myself i think of myself as centre—left. other parts around the country. _ centre—left. other parts around the country, similarthings are being done _ country, similarthings are being done in — country, similarthings are being done in other constituencies. isiington _ done in other constituencies. islington north is the highest profile — islington north is the highest profile won because of corbyn's position — profile won because of corbyn's position i_ profile won because of corbyn's position. i think the treatment of corhyn _ position. i think the treatment of corbyn going back to when the whip was taken _ corbyn going back to when the whip was taken away is very stupid. i think— was taken away is very stupid. i think keir— was taken away is very stupid. i think keir starmer could have just quietly— think keir starmer could have just quietly retained the whip a year ago _ quietly retained the whip a year auo. �* quietly retained the whip a year aro, �* ~ . ., , quietly retained the whip a year a.o_�* a ., , ., ~' quietly retained the whip a year aao.�* �*. ., , ., quietly retained the whip a year ago. anne mchardy, thank you for 'oinin: ago. anne mchardy, thank you for joining us- — ago. anne mchardy, thank you for joining us. what _ ago. anne mchardy, thank you for joining us. what you _ ago. anne mchardy, thank you for joining us. what you say _ ago. anne mchardy, thank you for joining us. what you say in - ago. anne mchardy, thank you for joining us. what you say in terms| ago. anne mchardy, thank you for i joining us. what you say in terms of the treatment of the left and jeremy corbyn? i the treatment of the left and jeremy corb n? ~ . ,., , ., the treatment of the left and jeremy corb n? ~ . , . corbyn? i think labour wins as a broad church, _ corbyn? i think labour wins as a broad church, but _ corbyn? i think labour wins as a broad church, but i _ corbyn? i think labour wins as a broad church, but i also - corbyn? i think labour wins as a broad church, but i also think. corbyn? i think labour wins as a | broad church, but i also think our values really matter, including antiracism and that we all have to have a bit of humility. that we have all come right across the board, got stuff to learn on that. let’s all come right across the board, got stuff to learn on that.— stuff to learn on that. let's go into the chamber _ stuff to learn on that. let's go into the chamber because - stuff to learn on that. let's go into the chamber because in l stuff to learn on that. let's go i into the chamber because in five minutes' time we will be watching and listening to prime minister's questions. there are mps filling up at the moment. maria caulfield, our guest after prime minister's questions, is at the dispatch box, the health minister. it is the first prime minister's questions since dominic raab, the former deputy prime minister resigned over bullying allegations. he said he would go if any of those were upheld. two of the more by adam tolley, who carried out the investigation. he becomes the third cabinet minister to resign with rishi sunak. can you understand why some of your colleagues are worried that rishi sunakjust doesn't have their backs? that rishi sunak 'ust doesn't have their backs?— that rishi sunak 'ust doesn't have their hacks?— that rishi sunak 'ust doesn't have their backs? ., ,, . , ., their backs? no. i think he has done a treat their backs? no. i think he has done a great job- — their backs? no. i think he has done a great job- i'm _ their backs? no. i think he has done a great job. i'm not— their backs? no. i think he has done a great job. i'm not entirely - their backs? no. i think he has done a great job. i'm not entirely sure - their backs? no. i think he has done a great job. i'm not entirely sure i i a greatjob. i'm not entirely sure i agree with the premise of the question, to be honest. the, agree with the premise of the question, to be honest. a group of mps went to _ question, to be honest. a group of mps went to chequers, _ question, to be honest. a group of mps went to chequers, to - question, to be honest. a group of mps went to chequers, to the - question, to be honest. a group of. mps went to chequers, to the prime minister's retreat, to talk to them about the fact that he would have their backs in situations like this rather than perhaps allowing, as some people within the party feel, civil service actors. i some people within the party feel, civil service actors.— civil service actors. i wish i'd tone to civil service actors. i wish i'd gone to that. _ civil service actors. i wish i'd gone to that. i _ civil service actors. i wish i'd gone to that. i would - civil service actors. i wish i'd gone to that. i would have i civil service actors. i wish i'd - gone to that. i would have enjoyed it. it would have on a pleasant opportunity to engage with colleagues. i was talking to frances about what it was like to be a 2019 mp, and mp forfive weeks, effectively a zoom mp. this is effectively a zoom mp. this is effectively a zoom mp. this is effectively a people game. i think the prime minister is doing a really good job. there are people looking forward. love the five priorities because it is what people talk to us about when you knock on doors. stop the boats, cut the waiting list, have inflation, reduce that. there are also people — have inflation, reduce that. there are also people who _ have inflation, reduce that. there are also people who feel - have inflation, reduce that. there are also people who feel that - have inflation, reduce that. there | are also people who feel that rishi sunak should have just sacked dominic raab. do you think the whole dominic raab. do you think the whole dominic raab. do you think the whole dominic raab saga has strengthened or weakened the prime minister? i think he has got away with it for now _ think he has got away with it for now. but— think he has got away with it for now. but i— think he has got away with it for now, but i think the timing between the announcement that rishi sunak had the _ the announcement that rishi sunak had the report and also seeing the report, _ had the report and also seeing the report, which was nearly 24 hours, speaks _ report, which was nearly 24 hours, speaks volumes for the fact that dominit— speaks volumes for the fact that dominic raab was able to release his resignation _ dominic raab was able to release his resignation letter, one of the petty is that— resignation letter, one of the petty is that bitterest resignation letters— is that bitterest resignation letters i have ever seen in my career. — letters i have ever seen in my career. and _ letters i have ever seen in my career, and indeed then right and opt for— career, and indeed then right and opt for the — career, and indeed then right and opt for the daily telegraph about how poorly he had been treated, before _ how poorly he had been treated, before rishi sunak made any statement, that is not a sign of strength, — statement, that is not a sign of strength, it is a sign of dithering. there _ strength, it is a sign of dithering. there is— strength, it is a sign of dithering. there is always an element of choreotgrapiiy— there is always an element of choreography in _ there is always an element of choreography in these - there is always an element of choreography in these things. there is always an element of- choreography in these things. but when _ choreography in these things. but when you — choreography in these things. but when you are _ choreography in these things. but when you are a _ choreography in these things. but when you are a prime _ choreography in these things. but when you are a prime minister- choreography in these things. but - when you are a prime minister wholly depend _ when you are a prime minister wholly depend on _ when you are a prime minister wholly depend on the — when you are a prime minister wholly depend on the backbench _ when you are a prime minister wholly depend on the backbench mps - when you are a prime minister wholly depend on the backbench mps for- depend on the backbench mps for support, — depend on the backbench mps for support, because _ depend on the backbench mps for support, because you _ depend on the backbench mps for support, because you don't- depend on the backbench mps for support, because you don't havei depend on the backbench mps for. support, because you don't have the popular— support, because you don't have the popular vote — support, because you don't have the popular vote and _ support, because you don't have the popular vote and you _ support, because you don't have the popular vote and you don't have - support, because you don't have the popular vote and you don't have the| popular vote and you don't have the members _ popular vote and you don't have the members supporting _ popular vote and you don't have the members supporting you, _ popular vote and you don't have the members supporting you, it - popular vote and you don't have the members supporting you, it is - popular vote and you don't have thej members supporting you, it is quite a challenge — members supporting you, it is quite a challenge making _ members supporting you, it is quite a challenge making sure _ members supporting you, it is quite a challenge making sure that - members supporting you, it is quite a challenge making sure that all- a challenge making sure that all these _ a challenge making sure that all these factions— a challenge making sure that all these factions are _ a challenge making sure that all these factions are going - a challenge making sure that all these factions are going to - a challenge making sure that all these factions are going to be . these factions are going to be supported _ these factions are going to be supported -- _ these factions are going to be supported —— supporter. - these factions are going to be - supported —— supporter. someone like dominic— supported —— supporter. someone like dominic will— supported —— supporter. someone like dominic will not _ supported —— supporter. someone like dominic will not cause _ supported —— supporter. someone like dominic will not cause trouble - supported —— supporter. someone like dominic will not cause trouble for - dominic will not cause trouble for the prime — dominic will not cause trouble for the prime minister. _ dominic will not cause trouble for the prime minister. he _ dominic will not cause trouble for the prime minister. he is- dominic will not cause trouble for the prime minister. he is not - dominic will not cause trouble for the prime minister. he is not a i dominic will not cause trouble for| the prime minister. he is not a liz truss— the prime minister. he is not a liz truss person _ the prime minister. he is not a liz truss person 0r— the prime minister. he is not a liz truss person. or even _ the prime minister. he is not a liz truss person. or even a _ the prime minister. he is not a liz truss person. or even a boris - truss person. or even a boris person. — truss person. or even a boris person. there _ truss person. or even a boris person. there will— truss person. or even a boris person. there will be - truss person. or even a boris person. there will be mps - truss person. or even a borisl person. there will be mps who truss person. or even a boris - person. there will be mps who feel uncomfortable _ person. there will be mps who feel uncomfortable that _ person. there will be mps who feel uncomfortable that he _ person. there will be mps who feel uncomfortable that he has - person. there will be mps who feel uncomfortable that he has chosen. person. there will be mps who feel. uncomfortable that he has chosen the civil service _ uncomfortable that he has chosen the civil service over— uncomfortable that he has chosen the civil service over them. _ uncomfortable that he has chosen the civil service over them. but _ uncomfortable that he has chosen the civil service over them. but i - uncomfortable that he has chosen the civil service over them. but i think- civil service over them. but i think him not _ civil service over them. but i think him not heing— civil service over them. but i think him not being fired _ civil service over them. but i think him not being fired by— civil service over them. but i think him not being fired by the - civil service over them. but i think him not being fired by the prime l him not being fired by the prime minister. — him not being fired by the prime minister, while _ him not being fired by the prime minister, while it— him not being fired by the prime minister, while it may— him not being fired by the prime minister, while it may look- him not being fired by the prime . minister, while it may look weak to somer _ minister, while it may look weak to some, politically— minister, while it may look weak to some, politically it _ minister, while it may look weak to some, politically it was _ minister, while it may look weak to some, politically it was the - minister, while it may look weak to some, politically it was the right. some, politically it was the right thing _ some, politically it was the right thing for— some, politically it was the right thing for the _ some, politically it was the right thing for the prime _ some, politically it was the right thing for the prime minister- some, politically it was the right thing for the prime minister to. some, politically it was the right . thing for the prime minister to do. there _ thing for the prime minister to do. there are — thing for the prime minister to do. there are real— thing for the prime minister to do. there are real members— thing for the prime minister to do. there are real members of- thing for the prime minister to do. there are real members of staff i thing for the prime minister to do. | there are real members of staff on the end of this. the 24 hours will notjust the end of this. the 24 hours will not just about whether the prime minister looked like he was dithering, there were real people who had the guts to submit bullying complaints. that who had the guts to submit bullying com-laints. ., , , who had the guts to submit bullying com-laints. . , , . , complaints. that is why it was investigated. _ complaints. that is why it was investigated. i _ complaints. that is why it was investigated. i think— complaints. that is why it was investigated. i think we - complaints. that is why it was investigated. i think we do . complaints. that is why it was l investigated. i think we do need complaints. that is why it was - investigated. i think we do need to reform that — investigated. i think we do need to reform that procedure. _ investigated. i think we do need to reform that procedure. if - investigated. i think we do need to reform that procedure. if it - investigated. i think we do need to reform that procedure. if it is - investigated. i think we do need to reform that procedure. if it is left i reform that procedure. if it is left to a prime minister, it is a political decision rather than a fair decision. it political decision rather than a fair decision.— political decision rather than a fair decision. it is not black and white when _ fair decision. it is not black and white when you _ fair decision. it is not black and white when you read _ fair decision. it is not black and white when you read what - fair decision. it is not black and white when you read what is . fair decision. it is not black and white when you read what is in | fair decision. it is not black and i white when you read what is in it. the prime — white when you read what is in it. the prime minister has done the right— the prime minister has done the right thing, taken time to think about— right thing, taken time to think about a — right thing, taken time to think about a complex object. a lot of the briefing _ about a complex object. a lot of the briefing going on in the press, there — briefing going on in the press, there is— briefing going on in the press, there is not one tomato in that report — there is not one tomato in that report. giving dominic raab the opportunity to say, i completely accept _ opportunity to say, i completely accept and have resigned because of these _ accept and have resigned because of these two _ accept and have resigned because of these two things, however, please can we _ these two things, however, please can we be — these two things, however, please can we be clear that you chant —— you can't — can we be clear that you chant —— you can'tjust _ can we be clear that you chant —— you can'tjust go can we be clear that you chant —— you can't just go around can we be clear that you chant —— you can'tjust go around making stuff— you can'tjust go around making stuff up — you can'tjust go around making stuff up about sitting ministers and briefing _ stuff up about sitting ministers and briefing to — stuff up about sitting ministers and briefing to the press as truth when it appear— briefing to the press as truth when it appear in — briefing to the press as truth when it appear in a report. people have the right— it appear in a report. people have the right to — it appear in a report. people have the right to be treated with respect at work _ the right to be treated with respect at work 0f— the right to be treated with respect at work. of course they do. the pm minister— at work. of course they do. the pm minister is — at work. of course they do. the pm minister is spending a bit of time to examine a challenging report. that is— to examine a challenging report. that is good leadership. —— the prime — that is good leadership. —— the prime minister. did that is good leadership. -- the prime minister.— that is good leadership. -- the prime minister. , . , prime minister. did he actually come to a decision. — prime minister. did he actually come to a decision, or— prime minister. did he actually come to a decision, or did _ prime minister. did he actually come to a decision, or did you _ prime minister. did he actually come to a decision, or did you just - prime minister. did he actually come to a decision, or did you just wait - to a decision, or did you just wait for him to resign? it doesn't look very convincing. i'm just looking at it through the eyes of a staff member. you have put in the allegation of bullying. you go through a process. there is a report. it is tough. it is a tough thing to do because you have less power than the person you are complaining about. that is the reality. we have seen it with sexual harassment, we have seen it with bullying. that is why you have to have a much more robust procedure that people have trust in. hater have a much more robust procedure that people have trust in.— that people have trust in. how do ou think that people have trust in. how do you think the _ that people have trust in. how do you think the backbenchers - that people have trust in. how do you think the backbenchers are i you think the backbenchers are feeling as this is the first prime minister's questions —— prime minister's questions —— prime minister's questions —— prime minister's questions since this first happened, sitting behind rishi sunak? you the uk will continue to work to end the problems in sudan and we have begun a issue that the prime minister is —— that the prime minister will agree with. given the leader of the opposition does not know what a woman is and will not stand up to defend women in his own party voicing views on women's rights, and according to his own front bench failed to prosecute rapists when he was in charge at the dpp, does my right honourable friend think that the labour party are in any position to teach anybody about respect for women? and is irony dead? i trail]! women? and is irony dead? i will brint the women? and is irony dead? i will bring the prime _ women? and is irony dead? i will bring the prime minister - women? and is irony dead? i will bring the prime minister in, but in fairness. — bring the prime minister in, but in fairness, the responsibility for the answer— fairness, the responsibility for the answer is — fairness, the responsibility for the answer is the opposition, but prime minister~ _ answer is the opposition, but prime minister. my answer is the opposition, but prime minister. g ., ., . , , minister. my honourable friend is absolutely right. _ minister. my honourable friend is absolutely right. the _ minister. my honourable friend is absolutely right. the leader - minister. my honourable friend is absolutely right. the leader of i minister. my honourable friend is. absolutely right. the leader of the opposition's record on women is questionable at best, mr speaker and before labour start preaching about this issue they should work out the answer to one very simple question, i am certain what a woman is, is he? we now come to the leader of the opposition, keir starmer. canl we now come to the leader of the opposition, keir starmer. can i 'oin the prime minister - opposition, keir starmer. can i 'oin the prime minister in - opposition, keir starmer. can i 'oin the prime minister in paying . opposition, keir starmer. can ijoin the prime minister in paying tribute to the brave british personnel involved in the evacuation effort from sudan. the government must do everything in its power to urgently evacuate uk nationals still trapped in sudan. mr speaker, yesterday george osborne said the tory party handling of the economy makes them vandals. he is right, isn't he? mr steaker, vandals. he is right, isn't he? mr speaker, while in the business of quoting former chancellors and shadow chancellor, i don't know if he saw the remarks from a former labour shadow chancellor yesterday who said our country had faced four once in a century shocks and threats to the economy on the fact we have come through it is a triumph. that former chancellor _ come through it is a triumph. that former chancellor not _ come through it is a triumph. trust former chancellor not only said you were a bunch of tory vandals, he said there was a self induced financial crisis on the country. and they like to pretend that it was all just one week of madness last autumn, but the truth is, it's been 13 years of failure. real wages, the money in peoples pockets has fallen by £1500 per household. the prime minister's response? to impose 2a tory tax rises in three years. 24. how on earth does he think his low growth, high tax economy is working for working people?— for working people? because of the action we have _ for working people? because of the action we have taken _ for working people? because of the action we have taken on _ for working people? because of the action we have taken on the - for working people? because of the l action we have taken on the national living wage at record levels, on pensions, on universal credit and the generous cost of living payments. just yesterday, almost 8 million households receiving direct support from this conservative government. we are supporting working people. itjust this week on the other place we have seen his party slide with protesters and picketers. he should actually try backing working people.- picketers. he should actually try backing working people. £1600 worse off. backing working people. £1600 worse off- genuinely — backing working people. £1600 worse off. genuinely fascinated _ backing working people. £1600 worse off. genuinely fascinated to _ backing working people. £1600 worse off. genuinely fascinated to know. . off. genuinely fascinated to know. does he really think everything is fine, or is hejust does he really think everything is fine, or is he just clueless about life outside of his bubble? because ofthe life outside of his bubble? because of the actions _ life outside of his bubble? because of the actions we _ life outside of his bubble? because of the actions we have _ life outside of his bubble? because of the actions we have taken, - life outside of his bubble? because of the actions we have taken, let's| of the actions we have taken, let's go over it, a single mother working full—time on the national living wage this year will get £1300 more support from this government. they working couple on low income with two children will get £1800. that is what delivering for work in britain looks like but if he has any actual ideas for the economy, he should say so because all i hear from the party opposite is more spending, more borrowing, high inflation, higher interest rates, it's the same old labour party. interest rates, it's the same old labour party-— labour party. this is mr 24 tax rises. labour party. this is mr 24 tax rises- i've _ labour party. this is mr 24 tax rises. i've never— labour party. this is mr 24 tax rises. i've never heard - labour party. this is mr 24 tax | rises. i've never heard anything labour party. this is mr 24 tax . rises. i've never heard anything so out of touch as the answer that he has just given. and out of touch as the answer that he hasjust given. and it's notjust his refusal to take any responsibility for the damage they have done in the crashed economy, the hit to living standards. it's also that he refuses to take the action needed. he could stop the hand—outs he is giving to oil and gas giants. he could scrap his beloved non—dom status. he could put that money back in the hands of working people and get the nhs back on its feet. that is what a labour government would do. why doesn't he? the record is clear. look at it right now. record numbers of people in work, record numbers of people in work, inequality lower, the number of people in poverty lower and those in low paid, the lowest numbers on record. he talks about this non—dom thing, and i think he's already spent the money he claims he's raised on five different things, because it's the same old labour party. they are always running out of other peoples money.— party. they are always running out of other peoples money. order. we had enough — of other peoples money. order. we had enough last _ of other peoples money. order. we had enough last week _ of other peoples money. order. we had enough last week and - of other peoples money. order. we had enough last week and i'm - had enough last week and i'm certainly— had enough last week and i'm certainly not having this continuous noise. _ certainly not having this continuous noise. so— certainly not having this continuous noise, sojust be aware that somebody will be going for that cup of tea _ somebody will be going for that cup of tea today. he somebody will be going for that cup of tea today-— of tea today. he calls it this non-dom — of tea today. he calls it this non-dom thing. _ of tea today. he calls it this non-dom thing. let's - of tea today. he calls it this non-dom thing. let's be . of tea today. he calls it this - non-dom thing. let's be honest of tea today. he calls it this _ non-dom thing. let's be honest about non—dom thing. let's be honest about what his refusal to scrap the non—dom status means. it means that at every possible opportunity he has voted to put taxes up on working people. while at the same time taking every possible opportunity to protract a tax avoidance scheme that helped his own finances. why is the prime minister telling people across the country that their taxes must go up the country that their taxes must go up so that he is can stay low? the fact is the — up so that he is can stay low? the fact is the wealthiest pay more tax and the poorest pay less tax today than under any year of the last labour government. we've also boosted the national living wage on universal credit and pensioners. but the rank hypocrisy of it. as we saw last week, when it comes to his own special pension scheme. i mean, i said it last week, but i will say it again it is literally one law for him in a tax rise for everybody else. . him in a tax rise for everybody else. , , . else. here is the difference. i would scrap _ else. here is the difference. i would scrap his _ else. here is the difference. i would scrap his pension - would scrap his pension giveaway whether it affected me or not. he refuses to scrap the non—dom status that benefits him and his family. i can see why he's attracted to this non—dom thing. this prime minister is so removed from the country that he boasted he did not know a single working class person. so insulated from reality that he proudly told the tory garden party how he had moved money from poor areas and handed it to rich ones. so out of touch that he looks at a petrol pump and a debit card like they have just arrived from mars. iis and a debit card like they have just arrived from mars. lift it and a debit card like they have 'ust arrived from mars- and a debit card like they have 'ust arrived from mars. is it any wonder he smiles his _ arrived from mars. is it any wonder he smiles his way _ arrived from mars. is it any wonder he smiles his way through - arrived from mars. is it any wonder he smiles his way through the - arrived from mars. is it any wonder he smiles his way through the cost| he smiles his way through the cost of living crisis while putting other peoples taxes up. is it any wonder he doesn't have a clue how food prices are hammering families around the country? and is it any wonder under him that people are paying more and more and getting less and less? �* . more and more and getting less and less? 3 ., ., .. more and more and getting less and less? �*, . more and more and getting less and less? �* , ., ., more and more and getting less and less? �*, . . ., less? let's look at what has happened — less? let's look at what has happened just _ less? let's look at what has happened just in _ less? let's look at what has happened just in this - less? let's look at what has happened just in this week, j less? let's look at what has . happened just in this week, mr speaker where the labour party have put themselves. on monday, in the other place they decided to side with extremist protesters. just yesterday they sided with polluters. and tonight we will see them siding with the people smugglers, mr speaker. whilst we are in the business of sending back the 1000 illegal migrants from albania, we are delivering cost of living payments to millions of households just yesterday, and today we have announced we have put 20,000 more police officers on the streets, mr speaker. we are siding with the british people. that is what the conservative government does. thank you, mr speaker. 60 years ago the urban district council wrote to the government about the urgent need for a bypass for my constituency of leigh, and 40 years ago the central section was constructed, but to this day the bypass remains unfinished, leading to daily gridlock in some areas of the community. will the prime minister support my proposals to complete the bypass and meet with me to discuss it further so we can get leigh moving again. i me to discuss it further so we can get leigh moving again. i commend my am offering's — get leigh moving again. i commend my am offering's campaigning _ get leigh moving again. i commend my am offering's campaigning on _ get leigh moving again. i commend my am offering's campaigning on this - am offering's campaigning on this issue and there have been a number of proposals in road improvements in his area and he will know it's for the local highways authority to develop those plans but i know a meeting is planned injune to move proposals forward and i know he will take his energy and enthusiasm for his campaign to the meeting and i wish him well.— wish him well. thank you, mr speaker- _ wish him well. thank you, mr speaker- can _ wish him well. thank you, mr speaker. can i _ wish him well. thank you, mr speaker. can i ask— wish him well. thank you, mr speaker. can i ask the - wish him well. thank you, mr speaker. can i ask the prime| speaker. can i ask the prime minister to outline the safe and legal route available to a child refugee seeking to flee sudan and come to the united kingdom? the; i come to the united kingdom? as i outlined earlier, _ come to the united kingdom? as i outlined earlier, our priority in sudan first and foremost was to evacuate diplomats and their families and i'm very pleased that we were one of the first countries to be able to do that and since yesterday we have been conducting a large—scale evacuation of british nationals and we have some of the largest numbers of british nationals in the ground and i'm sure the whole house will agree with me that it is reasonable, legal and fair to prioritise those most vulnerable families, particularly those with elderly people in them, medical conditions, but also children. that's what were in the process of doing and i pay tribute to all those making it possible. to doing and i pay tribute to all those making it possible.— doing and i pay tribute to all those making it possible. to be clear and i think everyone _ making it possible. to be clear and i think everyone is _ making it possible. to be clear and i think everyone is aware _ making it possible. to be clear and i think everyone is aware in - making it possible. to be clear and i think everyone is aware in the - i think everyone is aware in the house, children in sudan are already dying. whether it's a tory slogan to stop the boats or a labour slogan to stop the boats or a labour slogan to stop small boats, we need some more humanity here. rather than the race to the bottom which we see here today, so can i ask the prime minister now he has confirmed there is no safe and legal route, will he confirm it will be his government's intention to detain and deport a child refugee who flee sudan and comes to the united kingdom? in fact because of the — comes to the united kingdom? in fact because of the efforts _ comes to the united kingdom? in fact because of the efforts of _ comes to the united kingdom? in fact because of the efforts of our - comes to the united kingdom? in fact because of the efforts of our aid - because of the efforts of our aid teams we have invested almost £250 million in humanitarian support in sudan over the past five years. and mr speaker, the honourable gentleman does it always, but actually this country has a proud record of compassionately supporting those who need our assistance and just over the last few years we have welcomed almost half a million vulnerable people to our country including many children and it's that compassion we want to make sure we continue which is why it it is precisely rightly make sure the system is not exploited by those coming here illegally, and that is what the bill will deliver. the illegally, and that is what the bill will deliver.— will deliver. the lib dems run hinckley and _ will deliver. the lib dems run hinckley and bosworth - will deliver. the lib dems run i hinckley and bosworth borough council don't have an up—to—date local plan. so every day that goes past we have speculative housing applications that put pressure on infrastructure like gp surgery schools and roads and locally lib dems say it's the £300,000 housing target how but the lib dems have a target how but the lib dems have a target of 380,000 houses. so will the prime minister change the law to ensure that communities like burbage and market boss worth get the infrastructure and protection they need for the houses that we need. mt; need for the houses that we need. my honourable friend is right to point out the hypocrisy of the local liberal democrats on this issue and he is right to highlight this issue locally, because the new infrastructure levy gives local areas the power to deliver the local infrastructure he supports and once for his area, but he's right to point out the importance of a local plan because it's precisely that having a local plan gives communities the power to ensure that development in their area is happening in the way they want it to and the council is failing in its duty to do that for its communities by not booking —— putting forward the local plan. by not booking -- putting forward the local plan-— the local plan. incredibly any traveller wanting _ the local plan. incredibly any traveller wanting to - the local plan. incredibly any traveller wanting to go - the local plan. incredibly any traveller wanting to go by . the local plan. incredibly any i traveller wanting to go by train from north to south wales has to go via england. linking wales north to south would cost £2 billion. the pm talks about running away with on a peoples money but his government is depriving wales to the tune of £6 billion by ruling that north south england rail links like hs2 somehow benefit wales. will he plead guilty to the great welsh train robbery? as the honourable lady knows her transport matters are handled in wales, and what i would say to her is that we always want to work cooperatively with the once common to see where we can deliver for the people in wales. we are investing record sums in communities up and down wales through the levelling up fund and the community on a chip on. we are happy to continue those conversations. many of those are transformation projects. i hope she willjoin me in saying that what the people of wales do not need is a labour plan to build new roads. itiiufiilii labour plan to build new roads. will the prime labour plan to build new roads. ii. the prime minister back hour or local plans to reopen our much loved malvern hills college? and does he agree that warwickshire college group should negotiate the sale in good faith, and not resort to using public money to pursue our district council? == public money to pursue our district council? ., , . ,, , council? -- to sue? i thank my honourable _ council? -- to sue? i thank my honourable friend _ council? -- to sue? i thank my honourable friend for _ council? -- to sue? i thank my honourable friend for raising . council? -- to sue? i thank my i honourable friend for raising this issue. i recognise the valuable work that all colleges do in meeting local skills need. and very much welcome local community groups working together to address gaps in the way that her local area is doing. my understanding is that my right honourable friend, the education secretary, is in discussions with the college and i know my honourable friend will continue making discussions to her. mr speaker, my constituent, ian greenwood, tragically lost his 12—year—old daughter in a road traffic collision that should never have happened. he is now campaigning for lead division zero, which aims to end road deaths and serious injuries by 2040. we have to make our roads much safer. will the prime minister committed to giving local authorities sufficient funding to ensure that these vehicle collisions can never take a young life again? mr speaker, i can never take a young life again? mr speaker, lam incredibly can never take a young life again? mr speaker, i am incredibly sorry to hear about the tragic loss of ian's daughter. of course, we should do everything we can to improve road safety. i'm not the moment we are doing an enormous amount. statistics show we are improving. the transport secretary will look into the suggestions raised by the honourable gentleman. the. suggestions raised by the honourable etntleman. �* ., , gentleman. a village in my constituency _ gentleman. a village in my constituency has _ gentleman. a village in my constituency has about - gentleman. a village in my i constituency has about 1000 residents. last year in a hotel on the edge of the village was bought and there are proposals to house 400 single male migrants in the building and in shipping containers around the grants. the village has one small shop, the grants. the village has one smallshop, no the grants. the village has one small shop, no transport links and a health board and complete meltdown. can the prime minister facilitate a meeting between myself and local residents with the home secretary to hear the concerns of the local residents, who are worried the government isjust residents, who are worried the government is just not listening to them? mr government is 'ust not listening to them? ~ ., ., them? mr speaker, the honourable etntleman them? mr speaker, the honourable gentleman raises _ them? mr speaker, the honourable gentleman raises exactly _ them? mr speaker, the honourable gentleman raises exactly why - them? mr speaker, the honourable gentleman raises exactly why we i them? mr speaker, the honourable . gentleman raises exactly why we need to take action, because it is not right that local hotels in all our amenities are being used to such a degree to house illegal —— asylum seekers. not least because it is costing the british taxpayer £5 million, £6 million a day. we are bringing forward legislation enabling us to swiftly detain and send back those who should not be here. i will make sure he gets a meeting with the immigration minister. . meeting with the immigration minister. , ., ., , ., minister. figures out today show that the trust _ minister. figures out today show that the trust will _ minister. figures out today show that the trust will trust _ minister. figures out today show that the trust will trust food - minister. figures out today show. that the trust will trust food banks gave out 3 million meals over the last year, 1 million of which gave —— went to children. the prime minister is fortunate. he is a wealthy man. but all these families want to do is put food on the table, to be able to feed their own children without having to resort to food banks. does he think that is too much to ask? mr food banks. does he think that is too much to ask?— food banks. does he think that is too much to ask? mr speaker, as i have said previously, _ too much to ask? mr speaker, as i have said previously, we _ too much to ask? mr speaker, as i l have said previously, we absolutely don't want anyone to rely on a food bank. but whilst there are people who do use them, i am very grateful to all of those who volunteer their time to make sure that they are providing their local communities. we put substantial provision implies, not least free school meals, and all the free school meals are helping almost 2 million children, but also last year, investment in the holiday activity and food programme, which provides food and activity outside of term time, and we will continue to do everything we can to help those on low pay, which is why we are raising the minimum wage to record levels. i am pleased to say those living in poverty today is 2 million lower than when we first came into office. mr speaker, e—cigarettes were used —— introduced as a stop smoking device. they are remarkably cheap, brightly coloured with flavours such as bubble gum, milk shape and green gummy bear. these have proved remarkably attractive to children, hooking them in a lifetime of potentially addictive nicotine addiction. with my right honourable friend meet with me to talk about how we can ban disposable vibes? flan how we can ban disposable vibes? can i commend my honourable friend for her work in this area? i absolutely recognise the concerns that she raises both on the environmental impact of disposable vibes, but also their appeal to children. there is a call for evidence to look at reducing vaping and marketing. we have also been clear that all electrical waste should be disposed of properly and we are looking at what changes in legislation might be needed to ensure the vaping sector. bill. this needed to ensure the vaping sector. bill. ~ , needed to ensure the vaping sector. bill. . , . , . , needed to ensure the vaping sector. bill. a . bill. as we celebrate the lives of lily savage _ bill. as we celebrate the lives of lily savage and _ bill. as we celebrate the lives of lily savage and dame _ bill. as we celebrate the lives of lily savage and dame edna - bill. as we celebrate the lives of. lily savage and dame edna everage, turning point uk are planning to protest at a drug story time event in my constituency on saturday for the third time this year. these events are friendly, inclusive opportunities for children to hear a story and learn about the quality. turning point uk members, by contrast, seek to intimidate our younger people. they share misleading images on social media, implying the events are not appropriate. will the prime minister condemned turning point uk's attempts to spread hatred and division in my constituency and across the country?— across the country? well, mr speaker. _ across the country? well, mr speaker. i— across the country? well, mr speaker. i am _ across the country? well, mr speaker, i am not _ across the country? well, mr speaker, i am not aware - across the country? well, mr speaker, i am not aware of l across the country? well, mr i speaker, i am not aware of the specific allegations the honourable lady brings to light, but in general we should treat everybody with respect and understanding and compassion. people should be allowed to gather and associate freely within the bounds of the law. when it comes to children, as we have said, it is important material children are exposed to in class is a sensitive and age—appropriate, and thatis a sensitive and age—appropriate, and that is why we are reviewing the guidelines currently. this that is why we are reviewing the guidelines currently.— guidelines currently. this year marks the _ guidelines currently. this year marks the 400th _ guidelines currently. this year marks the 400th anniversaryl guidelines currently. this year. marks the 400th anniversary of guidelines currently. this year - marks the 400th anniversary of the publication of shakespeare's first folio. and his plays are not only a central part of our national culture, but many people around the world see them as a beacon of hope in darkest times. i recently met with the director of the shakespeare institute in ukraine, who told the stories of actors, directors and scholars, putting on shakespeare plays in air raid shelters in ukraine as an act of defiance against russian aggression and bombs. would the prime minister agree with me that, notwithstanding the sound and fury of domestic politics, that in shakespeare's works we have a force for freedom in a world often dominated by the brutality and tyranny of the oppressive regimes? flan brutality and tyranny of the oppressive regimes?- brutality and tyranny of the oppressive regimes? can i 'oin my heheurehie — oppressive regimes? can i 'oin my honourable friend - oppressive regimes? can i 'oin my honourable friend in - oppressive regimes? can i 'oin my honourable friend in his - oppressive regimes? can ijoin my. honourable friend in his comments. coincidentally, one of the first gift that i gave president zelensky was an old copy of henry v. i think his comments are well made. that is why we are training and arming ukrainian forces with the equipment they need to push back russian forces. i know the whole house will join me in saying that the people of ukraine's incredible strength and inspiring bravery will ultimately defeat tyranny. this inspiring bravery will ultimately defeat tyranny.— inspiring bravery will ultimately defeat tyranny. inspiring bravery will ultimately defeat rann. , ., . ,': defeat tyranny. this month marks 23 ears since defeat tyranny. this month marks 23 years since the _ defeat tyranny. this month marks 23 years since the passing _ defeat tyranny. this month marks 23 years since the passing of— defeat tyranny. this month marks 23 years since the passing of the - defeat tyranny. this month marks 23 years since the passing of the late i years since the passing of the late great bernie grant, former member of this house, and the founder of the uk reparations movement in the uk. in his last prime minister's questions before his death he asked for an apology to the people of african descent, living and dead, for our country's role in slavery and colonialism. but since then, prime ministers and heads of state have only ever expressed sorrow and deep regret. these are not sentiments befitting one of the greatest atrocities in human history. there has been no acknowledgement of the wealth that has been a master, or the fact that our country took out the largest laminate ever has to pay off the slave owners and not the enslaved. —— the largest loan. i will ask the prime minister if he will do what bernie grant has asked correct mast 20 years ago and asked for a full and meaningful apology for our country's role in slavery and commit to restorative justice? country's role in slavery and commit to restorativejustice? ida. country's role in slavery and commit to restorative justice?— to restorative 'ustice? no, mr speaker. — to restorative 'ustice? no, mr speaker. t— to restorativejustice? no, mr speaker. i think _ to restorativejustice? no, mr speaker. i think our _ to restorativejustice? no, mr speaker. i think our focus i to restorativejustice? no, mr. speaker. i think our focus should now on —— should be on understanding our history and all its parts, but making sure that we have a society thatis making sure that we have a society that is inclusive and tolerant of people from all backgrounds. that is something that we in this house, on this side of the house are focused on doing and will continue to deliver. trying to unpick our history is not the way forward and we will not focus our energies on it. ~ , u, it. the prime minister will recall his visit to _ it. the prime minister will recall his visit to rugby _ it. the prime minister will recall his visit to rugby to _ it. the prime minister will recall his visit to rugby to see - it. the prime minister will recall his visit to rugby to see our i his visit to rugby to see our outwork in delivering new homes in the new community of houlton, were 1000 and —— the new community of houlton, were 1000 and -- 1600 the new community of houlton, were 1000 and —— 1600 homes are now occupied. regrettably, urgent care services that are or local hospital are not keeping pace with this growth. as a consequence, 80,000 of my constituents now live more than 50 minutes drive from a major a&e unit. may i therefore invite the prime minister to return to rugby to see for himself the need to upgrade our emergency care provision. mr speaker, it is absolutely vital that people can access nhs services they need, particularly emergency care. that is why we are investing an extra £1 billion, dedicated funding, to support urgent emergency care services. my honourable friend will no specific provision as a matter for local nhs commissioners and providers because plans for those things need to be developed locally and taken into account the expanding needs of expanding populations. i know my honourable friend will continue to talk to his local nhs trust to ensure that the views of local constituents are well—known and provided for. local constituents are well-known and provided for.— local constituents are well-known and provided for. prime minister, i meet with constituents _ and provided for. prime minister, i meet with constituents everyday i meet with constituents everyday struggling to make ends meet. food banks barely managing to meet demands, households and businesses up demands, households and businesses up and down this struggling to meet their energy bills. yet the bank of england has already announced it is likely to increase interest rates once again, which will affect the poorest most and hike up mortgage rates once again. does the prime minister, after 13 years of conservative government, agree with the bank of england chief economist that the poorest should just accept being poorer? mr that the poorest should 'ust accept heihg mommfi being poorer? mr speaker, we are doint an being poorer? mr speaker, we are doing an enormous _ being poorer? mr speaker, we are doing an enormous amount - being poorer? mr speaker, we are doing an enormous amount to i being poorer? mr speaker, we are i doing an enormous amount to support those who most need our help with the cost of living and some of the precious, particularly on energy bills, that they face. that is why we made the decision to tax the windfall profits of energy companies. and we have offered support worth £1500. it applies across the united kingdom. on top of that there are direct payments going to be most vulnerable families in our society. just yesterday, the first of those payments was put out. £300. the first of three payments. it went to one in three households, including many in scotland. that is oura including many in scotland. that is our a government delivering for the people of scotland and making sure they have the help they need to manage the pressures they are facing. in manage the pressures they are facint. ., a manage the pressures they are facint. ., «a ,._ manage the pressures they are facint. ., facing. in yorkshire, we say you should judge — facing. in yorkshire, we say you should judge a _ facing. in yorkshire, we say you should judge a person _ facing. in yorkshire, we say you shouldjudge a person by- facing. in yorkshire, we say you should judge a person by the i facing. in yorkshire, we say you - should judge a person by the company they keep. so what is the prime minister's view of an individual who cannot only bow to spend more than ten minutes in the presence of vladimir putin, but refers to him as a dearfriend? vladimir putin, but refers to him as a dear friend?— a dear friend? well, mr speaker, i think our views _ a dear friend? well, mr speaker, i think our views on _ a dear friend? well, mr speaker, i think our views on president - a dear friend? well, mr speaker, i think our views on president putin | think our views on president putin are well known. his illegal war in ukraine has caused untold misery for many people. it has caused a humanitarian crisis. and it still ongoing in defiance of international companies wrecked my condemnation and sanctions. we will do everything we can to bring those responsible for war crimes to justice, to support the ukraine militarily and support the ukraine militarily and support them all the way to victory. i know the whole house is united in wanting that outcome.— wanting that outcome. given the chronic lack _ wanting that outcome. given the chronic lack of _ wanting that outcome. given the chronic lack of capacity _ wanting that outcome. given the chronic lack of capacity in - wanting that outcome. given the chronic lack of capacity in the i wanting that outcome. given the i chronic lack of capacity in the nhs, the prime minister will be aware that community pharmacies can help deal with minor illnesses, but there is a problem. on average, ten pharmacies close every month in england. will he take urgent action to prevent further closures and commission a properly funded service for minor illnesses? mr commission a properly funded service for minor illnesses?— for minor illnesses? mr speaker, a rare agreement — for minor illnesses? mr speaker, a rare agreement between _ for minor illnesses? mr speaker, a rare agreement between the - rare agreement between the honourable gentleman myself, i am great supporter of role community pharmacies play. we would like to make sure they can do everything to ease some of the pressures in primary care. it is something we are actively talking to the sector about. we will continue to do everything we can to support community pharmacies. i know how well—respected they are in their communities and i think they can do more. 0k, mr ok, mrspeaker, up ok, mr speaker, up to —— after a 15 year break, wrexham association. club is back in the english football league. will the prime minister joined me in congratulating everybody at the club, including the loyal supporters and the owners, ryan reynolds, and rob mcelhenney? and does he agree that wrexham is no longer in it like that place but quickly becoming a jewel in championing them in this place. thank you, mr speaker. after an investigation by the prime minister himself, a senior conservative mp was found guilty of bullying, of behaviour that was consistently aggressive and intimidating. the mp in question then attempted to blame his victims. the whole string of conservative mps queued up to defend him, suggesting his conduct was not only acceptable, but was actually due to factors. what does it say about the prime minister's on values that he has done nothing to distance himself from those comments? mr speaker, when formal complaints were made i rightly initiated an independent investigation and as soon as it reported, action was taken. it's the right thing to do, to follow due process and then let the process play out but it is somewhat odd to be giving lectures on values right now from the snp. boufal that completes prime a deputy political editor of the bbc. it was personal again between keir starmer and rishi sunak and we are in local election period to add an extra layer of spice. trading insults this time on the economy which is what keir starmer decided to go on, quotes like mr 24 tax rises which he called rishi sunak which means richey sinnott has brought us the highest tax burden for 70 years and keir starmer always running out of other peoples money as a retort. what you make of this? we talked about this last week with the attack ads and how things were more personal and you are right, we are coming up to local elections but all parties are looking at the local elections as a run—through for the general election which summed expect to be in a year's time and what was striking about sir keir starmer�*s attack was the personal nature and you expect him to talk about the conservative record on the economy and the fact that people feel poorer but it was the way he was going for rishi sunak about his personal wealth, talking about non—dom status and being clueless about life outside of your bubble, you are out of touch and you don't understand food prices and then the non—dom status which helps you and your family and i think that's becoming a sharper attack from labour which suggests to me that polling shows it may be hitting home with some voters. rishi sunak does not respond to any of that and card. you can't get away from the fact he's phenomenally wealthy but he can talk about the help the government is giving to those less fortunate than he is so talking to cost of living payments and others going out this week, so trying to look at the track record of the conservatives, despite the problems with the pandemic and the problems with the pandemic and the ukrainian warand the problems with the pandemic and the ukrainian war and saying, we are helping people who need it but it's interesting that labour seem to think they are getting somewhere with the more personal attacks. itiiufiilii with the more personal attacks. will come back to this issue with maris caulfield and bridget phillipson in a moment but i want to focus on what is happening this afternoon or now, surely, in the house of commons and thatis surely, in the house of commons and that is what the government calls the small boats bill or the illegal migration bill to give it its proper title because it's reaching the final stages in the house of commons but there are potentially two significant rebellions to deal with first and we will talk to one of those potential rebels, tim lawton in a few moments time, but tell us about those. in a few moments time, but tell us about those-— about those. the big picture about the bill is this — about those. the big picture about the bill is this is _ about those. the big picture about the bill is this is something - about those. the big picture about the bill is this is something that i the bill is this is something that the bill is this is something that the government really wants to make work, if you like. we know those promises from rishi sunak including stop the boats, but that is one of his five pledges, the one that ministers are most concerned about because it will be so difficult, lots of difficult —— different things need to work for it to happen and there is anxiety in the conservative party on different sides, so on one side of it there are those who want the bill tightened up and they feel quite reassured and suella braverman will do that by talking about ignoring some of the rulings from the echr so they are happy at the moment but the other side is about having more safe and legal roots, about child detention and trying to make it, soften it, if you like, and that's the side where there is likely to be more of a rebellion although it's going to be a rebellion postponed to the house of lords, because don't forget this is the house of commons and house of lords comes next and there are lots of people expect to get a difficult time, so what you haveis get a difficult time, so what you have is concessions promised further down the line and it's all about whether the rebels think it will happen. whether the rebels think it will hat ten. . ., .. whether the rebels think it will hat ten. . . ~' ., whether the rebels think it will hat-en. . . ~' ., ., whether the rebels think it will hat-en. . ., .. ., ., ., happen. lets talk to one of them, tim lawton _ happen. lets talk to one of them, tim lawton has— happen. lets talk to one of them, tim lawton has an _ happen. lets talk to one of them, tim lawton has an amendment i happen. lets talk to one of them, - tim lawton has an amendment seeking to restrict the detention of unaccompanied child migrants arriving on uk shores. is the government going to give into your amendment and meet your demands? i hope after intensive discussions in the last few days that the government will confirm that there are assurances given at the dispatch box when robertjenrick gets up later today that some of the concerns are being addressed about issues raised and they will come back at the next section of the bill when it is in the lords with amendments to put the assurances onto the face of the bill. yes. amendments to put the assurances onto the face of the bill.— onto the face of the bill. yes, of course, onto the face of the bill. yes, of course. as _ onto the face of the bill. yes, of course. as it _ onto the face of the bill. yes, of course, as it stands _ onto the face of the bill. yes, of course, as it stands now, - onto the face of the bill. yes, of course, as it stands now, are i onto the face of the bill. yes, of| course, as it stands now, are you going to push for a vote for your amendment this afternoon? i reserve the ritht amendment this afternoon? i reserve the ri t ht to amendment this afternoon? i reserve the right to do _ amendment this afternoon? i reserve the right to do that _ amendment this afternoon? i reserve the right to do that along _ amendment this afternoon? i reserve the right to do that along with - the right to do that along with other colleagues who have signed the amendments, but i hope that i won't have to do because we will get the assurances we need. there are safe and legal routes on the government agreed to that last week and that's agreed to that last week and that's a really significant measure to go on the face of the bill and balances the bill with the robust measures we need to take on people smugglers and the egea limit roots. i trail]! need to take on people smugglers and the egea limit roots.— the egea limit roots. i will come back to the _ the egea limit roots. i will come back to the safe _ the egea limit roots. i will come back to the safe and _ the egea limit roots. i will come back to the safe and legal- the egea limit roots. i will come back to the safe and legal roots| the egea limit roots. i will come i back to the safe and legal roots in a minute and i know it's noisy behind me and i know you can still hear me, but have you any other concerns about the measures in this bill? the equality and human rights commissions could reach the obligations, so if the government does agree and gives you reassurances on child migrants and their detention, are you then happy to vote for the bill? i trail]! their detention, are you then happy to vote for the bill?— to vote for the bill? i will vote for the bill — to vote for the bill? i will vote for the bill because _ to vote for the bill? i will vote for the bill because we - to vote for the bill? i will vote for the bill because we need i for the bill because we need measures to go through. the situation at the moment, as i've said on your programme many times, is unsustainable. we cannot have large amounts of people coming across the channel in a dangerous way paying people smugglers to do it, many of you who do not have credible claims for asylum in the uk and it's coming up the whole system, so we have to have measures. just saying oh, it's terrible and doing nothing is not enough but what i tried to achieve with the amendments is to make sure the genuine asylum seekers and i gave the example of the 16—year—old east african orphan which has become a reality with kids being affected in sudan as well. how would that child be able to safely and legally come to the uk, particularly if they have a relative here, and by putting safe and legal roots on the face of the bill provide those possibilities in the future is? that's really significant and on child detention, we have to make a clear distinction that you cannot treat children in the same way as adults, even when they are in the asylum system. so there are safeguards we have had since 1989 and make sure the safeguards applied to the children as well. there are good reasons why some children who may abscond or end up into criminal gangs will need to be detained, but we have to do it in an appropriate way, in an appropriate place with appropriate safeguards about getting permission from courts and that is what my amendments to, and that is what my amendments to, and that is what i think the government is going to agree to and have those things in law. i'm happy at the moment. there's lots of other things to be amended but my major asks have been addressed and we will get confirmation at the dispatch box today. confirmation at the dispatch box toda . w' confirmation at the dispatch box toda . xi ., confirmation at the dispatch box toda . ., . , ., confirmation at the dispatch box toda. ., . , ., . confirmation at the dispatch box toda. ., . , today. vicki young wants to ask you about the safe _ today. vicki young wants to ask you about the safe and _ today. vicki young wants to ask you about the safe and legal _ today. vicki young wants to ask you about the safe and legal roots, - today. vicki young wants to ask you about the safe and legal roots, the | about the safe and legal roots, the way you outlined the example of a 16—year—old possibly from sudan or eritrea. 16-year-old possibly from sudan or eritrea. , . 16-year-old possibly from sudan or eritrea. , , ., 16-year-old possibly from sudan or eritrea. , ., . ,, ., . eritrea. just on the concession that the government — eritrea. just on the concession that the government is _ eritrea. just on the concession that the government is talking - eritrea. just on the concession that the government is talking about, i eritrea. just on the concession that i the government is talking about, my understanding is they promised to launch— understanding is they promised to launch a _ understanding is they promised to launch a consultation within three months _ launch a consultation within three months of— launch a consultation within three months of the bill getting royal assent — months of the bill getting royal assent and then reporting in six months. — assent and then reporting in six months, setting out current and any proposed _ months, setting out current and any proposed additional safe and legal roots. _ proposed additional safe and legal roots. it _ proposed additional safe and legal roots. it sounds a long way down the track _ roots. it sounds a long way down the track because is without royal assent — track because is without royal assent and they are not promising to increase _ assent and they are not promising to increase the — assent and they are not promising to increase the number of safe and legal— increase the number of safe and legal routes, or do you have a different— legal routes, or do you have a different understanding? ideally, i tut down different understanding? ideally, i put down amendments _ different understanding? ideally, i put down amendments at - different understanding? ideally, i put down amendments at the - different understanding? ideally, i| put down amendments at the early committee stage and i'd like them to come in at the same time so we have the legislation going through and in the legislation going through and in the safe and legal route up and running. there is a lot of work to be done and it should have been done earlier. we need to see what capacity there is and parliament will be able to have a vote on the numbers as well as there's a lot of people from afghanistan here legitimately in hotels and we need to consult with refugee organisations how best they can get to the right people but it has to be done within six months, tops, that they set out how they will do that through the extension of family reunion teams, dash schemes, through the identification of vulnerable people in areas and these are the practical ways of getting to people who really need the safety of coming to the uk and have a claim to come to the uk and have a claim to come to the uk and have a claim to come to the uk, so we have gone a long, long way, because that is not available at the moment. the]!!! long way, because that is not available at the moment. all right, tim lawton, thank— available at the moment. all right, tim lawton, thank you _ available at the moment. all right, tim lawton, thank you for - available at the moment. all right, tim lawton, thank you forjoining i available at the moment. all right, | tim lawton, thank you forjoining us from central lobby. maria caulfield, robertjenrick said this, he said excessive migration seems to capitalise the compassion of the british public. would you use those words? �* ., , �* , words? i'm not sure i'd use those words? i'm not sure i'd use those words but — words? i'm not sure i'd use those words but it's _ words? i'm not sure i'd use those words but it's a _ words? i'm not sure i'd use those words but it's a genuine - words? i'm not sure i'd use those| words but it's a genuine concern.. he says cannibalise the compassion of the british public. what would you say to people you say robert jenrick is inflaming and dividing people on this issue? i do jenrick is inflaming and dividing people on this issue? i do think we need to recognise _ people on this issue? i do think we need to recognise this _ people on this issue? i do think we need to recognise this is _ people on this issue? i do think we need to recognise this is a - people on this issue? i do think we need to recognise this is a massive issue. i have been knocking doors up and down my constituency for the local elections and it's such a big issue. if} local elections and it's such a big issue. . ., . local elections and it's such a big issue. , . , ,, local elections and it's such a big issue. , ,, ,, issue. is it a big issue because the government _ issue. is it a big issue because the government keeps _ issue. is it a big issue because the government keeps making - issue. is it a big issue because the government keeps making it - issue. is it a big issue because the government keeps making it a i issue. is it a big issue because the government keeps making it a big | government keeps making it a big issue but cannot deal with the problem? issue but cannot deal with the troblem? �* . issue but cannot deal with the troblem? v ., . issue but cannot deal with the troblem? �*, . , ,, , problem? it's a big issue in my part ofthe problem? it's a big issue in my part of the country _ problem? it's a big issue in my part of the country because _ problem? it's a big issue in my part of the country because we - of the country because we have hotels filmed with migrants. whose fault is that? _ hotels filmed with migrants. whose fault is that? absolutely, _ hotels filmed with migrants. whose fault is that? absolutely, that - hotels filmed with migrants. whose fault is that? absolutely, that is i fault is that? absolutely, that is wh we fault is that? absolutely, that is why we are _ fault is that? absolutely, that is why we are bringing _ fault is that? absolutely, that is why we are bringing in - fault is that? absolutely, that is why we are bringing in the - why we are bringing in the legislation because we are spending 6 million a day on hotel accommodation for migrants which is not sustainable in the british public know that and that is why we are passing the legislation at speed because we recognise this is something that needs to be dealt with and we need to have better control of illegal migration. d0 with and we need to have better control of illegal migration. do you want to distance _ control of illegal migration. do you want to distance yourself - control of illegal migration. do you want to distance yourself from i control of illegal migration. do you i want to distance yourself from those words or do you think they are fine? they are not words that i would use, but i do recognise the general public have concern about the level of illegal immigration in the country at the moment. [30 of illegal immigration in the country at the moment. do you agree that it is a big — country at the moment. do you agree that it is a big issue? _ country at the moment. do you agree that it is a big issue? keir _ country at the moment. do you agree that it is a big issue? keir starmer i that it is a big issue? keir starmer and the labour party want to stop the small boats but will not back the small boats but will not back the policies that have been outlined in this bill? the the policies that have been outlined in this bill? ., . in this bill? the government have had 13 years _ in this bill? the government have had 13 years and _ in this bill? the government have had 13 years and it's _ in this bill? the government have had 13 years and it's a _ in this bill? the government have had 13 years and it's a symptom i had 13 years and it's a symptom of failure _ had 13 years and it's a symptom of failure we — had 13 years and it's a symptom of failure we got _ had 13 years and it's a symptom of failure we got to _ had 13 years and it's a symptom of failure we got to this _ had 13 years and it's a symptom of failure we got to this point - had 13 years and it's a symptom of failure we got to this point as - failure we got to this point as maria — failure we got to this point as maria was _ failure we got to this point as maria was saying, _ failure we got to this point as maria was saying, we - failure we got to this point as maria was saying, we are - failure we got to this point as - maria was saying, we are spending millions— maria was saying, we are spending millions of— maria was saying, we are spending millions of pounds _ maria was saying, we are spending millions of pounds on _ maria was saying, we are spending millions of pounds on housing - maria was saying, we are spending i millions of pounds on housing people and unsuitable — millions of pounds on housing people and unsuitable accommodation - millions of pounds on housing people and unsuitable accommodation like i and unsuitable accommodation like hotels _ and unsuitable accommodation like hotels because _ and unsuitable accommodation like hotels because we _ and unsuitable accommodation like hotels because we are _ and unsuitable accommodation like hotels because we are not - and unsuitable accommodation like i hotels because we are not processing asylum _ hotels because we are not processing asylum claims. — hotels because we are not processing asylum claims. it's _ hotels because we are not processing asylum claims. it's the _ hotels because we are not processing asylum claims. it's the government. asylum claims. it's the government that broke — asylum claims. it's the government that broke the _ asylum claims. it's the government that broke the system _ asylum claims. it's the government that broke the system in _ asylum claims. it's the government that broke the system in the - asylum claims. it's the government that broke the system in the first i that broke the system in the first place. _ that broke the system in the first lace. ~ , ., �* that broke the system in the first lacer , .,�* that broke the system in the first lace. ~ , .,�* that broke the system in the first lace. , , place. why won't you back the bill? i don't place. why won't you back the bill? i don't like — place. why won't you back the bill? i don't like the — place. why won't you back the bill? i don't like the language _ place. why won't you back the bill? i don't like the language and - place. why won't you back the bill? i don't like the language and it - i don't like the language and it doesn't — i don't like the language and it doesn't advance _ i don't like the language and it doesn't advance the _ i don't like the language and it doesn't advance the debate i i don't like the language and it| doesn't advance the debate we i don't like the language and it - doesn't advance the debate we should be having _ doesn't advance the debate we should be having this — doesn't advance the debate we should be having this country _ doesn't advance the debate we should be having this country but _ doesn't advance the debate we should be having this country but we - doesn't advance the debate we should be having this country but we do - be having this country but we do need _ be having this country but we do need to— be having this country but we do need to have _ be having this country but we do need to have controls _ be having this country but we do need to have controls on - be having this country but we do i need to have controls on migration and i_ need to have controls on migration and i believe — need to have controls on migration and i believe we _ need to have controls on migration and i believe we should _ need to have controls on migration and i believe we should crack- need to have controls on migration and i believe we should crack on. and i believe we should crack on criminal— and i believe we should crack on criminal gangs— and i believe we should crack on criminal gangs exploiting - and i believe we should crack on. criminal gangs exploiting people's misery. ~~ — criminal gangs exploiting people's misery... but— criminal gangs exploiting people's mise . �* ., . misery... but you haven't got a suggestion _ misery... but you haven't got a suggestion for _ misery... but you haven't got a suggestion for how? _ misery... but you haven't got a suggestion for how? we - misery... but you haven't got a suggestion for how? we have i misery... but you haven't got a suggestion for how? we have a misery... but you haven't got a - suggestion for how? we have a cross border agreement _ suggestion for how? we have a cross border agreement with _ suggestion for how? we have a cross border agreement with the _ suggestion for how? we have a cross border agreement with the french. i border agreement with the french. but the _ border agreement with the french. but the government _ border agreement with the french. but the government have - border agreement with the french. but the government have made i border agreement with the french. but the government have made a i border agreement with the french. i but the government have made a deal with the french. thei;r but the government have made a deal with the french.— with the french. they have had 13 ears and with the french. they have had 13 years and the _ with the french. they have had 13 years and the numbers _ with the french. they have had 13 years and the numbers we - with the french. they have had 13 years and the numbers we see i with the french. they have had 13. years and the numbers we see now with the french. they have had 13 - years and the numbers we see now and that people _ years and the numbers we see now and that people are — years and the numbers we see now and that people are waiting _ years and the numbers we see now and that people are waiting so _ years and the numbers we see now and that people are waiting so long - years and the numbers we see now and that people are waiting so long for- that people are waiting so long for claims _ that people are waiting so long for claims to— that people are waiting so long for claims to be — that people are waiting so long for claims to be processed _ that people are waiting so long for claims to be processed that - that people are waiting so long for claims to be processed that we've| claims to be processed that we've -ot claims to be processed that we've got to— claims to be processed that we've got to this — claims to be processed that we've got to this position _ claims to be processed that we've got to this position is _ claims to be processed that we've got to this position is a _ claims to be processed that we've got to this position is a symptoml claims to be processed that we've i got to this position is a symptom of failure _ got to this position is a symptom of failure and — got to this position is a symptom of failure and that's _ got to this position is a symptom of failure and that's why _ got to this position is a symptom of failure and that's why we _ got to this position is a symptom of failure and that's why we will - got to this position is a symptom of failure and that's why we will be i failure and that's why we will be opposing — failure and that's why we will be opposing what _ failure and that's why we will be opposing what the _ failure and that's why we will be opposing what the governmenti failure and that's why we will be - opposing what the government says on this and _ opposing what the government says on this and we _ opposing what the government says on this and we went — opposing what the government says on this and we went round _ opposing what the government says on this and we went round the _ opposing what the government says on this and we went round the on - opposing what the government says on this and we went round the on this- this and we went round the on this year ago _ this and we went round the on this year ago and — this and we went round the on this yearago and it— this and we went round the on this year ago and it feels _ this and we went round the on this year ago and it feels like _ this and we went round the on this year ago and it feels like we - this and we went round the on this year ago and it feels like we are i year ago and it feels like we are talking — year ago and it feels like we are talking about _ year ago and it feels like we are talking about this _ year ago and it feels like we are talking about this all— year ago and it feels like we are talking about this all the - year ago and it feels like we are talking about this all the and i talking about this all the and nothing _ talking about this all the and nothing actually— talking about this all the and nothing actually ever- talking about this all the and i nothing actually ever happens. talking about this all the and - nothing actually ever happens. if nothing actually ever happens. ll” you nothing actually ever happens. you look at the work since the nothing actually ever happens.“ you look at the work since the prime minister came in to post, since the deal with albania, we returned over 1000 albanians and we are getting through the backlog. there is 12,000 less people on the backlog now. itihfheh less people on the backlog now. when is the first flight _ less people on the backlog now. when is the first flight going _ less people on the backlog now. when is the first flight going to _ less people on the backlog now. when is the first flight going to rwanda? that is the key question and we need the legislation we try to get the flights and we were stopped by the european court of human rights and that's why we need this legislation so we have the supremacy here in the uk to make those decisions. the british courts upheld the government's decision and we need to do that. it’s government's decision and we need to do that. �* . government's decision and we need to do that. �* , ., ., do that. it's in the court of appeal- — do that. it's in the court of appeal- we _ do that. it's in the court of appeal. we heard - do that. it's in the court of appeal. we heard tim i do that. it's in the court of i appeal. we heard tim lawton do that. it's in the court of - appeal. we heard tim lawton say if the government does meet the demands on child migrants being treated differently and not being detained when they arrive on our shores, and also there are safe and legal roots more than exist at the moment, would you reverse this bill if you win the next election if it is past? we you reverse this bill if you win the next election if it is past?- next election if it is past? we will take action _ next election if it is past? we will take action to _ next election if it is past? we will take action to deal— next election if it is past? we will take action to deal with _ next election if it is past? we will take action to deal with whatever| take action to deal with whatever mess— take action to deal with whatever mess we — take action to deal with whatever mess we inherited _ take action to deal with whatever mess we inherited and _ take action to deal with whatever mess we inherited and there - take action to deal with whatever mess we inherited and there will| mess we inherited and there will be an awful— mess we inherited and there will be an awful lot— mess we inherited and there will be an awful lot of— mess we inherited and there will be an awful lot of problems _ mess we inherited and there will be an awful lot of problems for - mess we inherited and there will be an awful lot of problems for the - an awful lot of problems for the labour— an awful lot of problems for the labour government— an awful lot of problems for the labour government after- an awful lot of problems for the labour government after all- an awful lot of problems for the labour government after all the years— labour government after all the years of— labour government after all the years of failure. _ labour government after all the years of failure. we _ labour government after all the years of failure. we are - labour government after all the i years of failure. we are opposing it and we _ years of failure. we are opposing it and we think— years of failure. we are opposing it and we think they're _ years of failure. we are opposing it and we think they're still— years of failure. we are opposing it and we think they're still an - and we think they're still an opportunity— and we think they're still an opportunity to— and we think they're still an opportunity to make - and we think they're still an opportunity to make sure i and we think they're still an opportunity to make sure it| and we think they're still an - opportunity to make sure it doesn't come _ opportunity to make sure it doesn't come into_ opportunity to make sure it doesn't come into force _ opportunity to make sure it doesn't come into force and _ opportunity to make sure it doesn't come into force and it's _ opportunity to make sure it doesn't come into force and it's still- opportunity to make sure it doesn't come into force and it's still going i come into force and it's still going through its— come into force and it's still going through its various _ come into force and it's still going through its various stages. - come into force and it's still going through its various stages. that . through its various stages. that discussion— through its various stages. that discussion you _ through its various stages. that discussion you had _ through its various stages. that discussion you had with - through its various stages. that discussion you had with tim - through its various stages. that - discussion you had with tim lawton, i don't _ discussion you had with tim lawton, tdon't think— discussion you had with tim lawton, i don't think he's _ discussion you had with tim lawton, idon't think he's really— discussion you had with tim lawton, i don't think he's really giving - discussion you had with tim lawton, i don't think he's really giving the i i don't think he's really giving the concessions— idon't think he's really giving the concessions he's— i don't think he's really giving the concessions he's getting - i don't think he's really giving the concessions he's getting on - i don't think he's really giving the concessions he's getting on this. | i don't think he's really giving the i concessions he's getting on this. we need serious — concessions he's getting on this. we need serious action _ concessions he's getting on this. we need serious action from _ concessions he's getting on this. we need serious action from the - need serious action from the government— need serious action from the government to _ need serious action from the government to tackle - need serious action from the government to tackle this. . need serious action from the i government to tackle this. we need serious action from the - government to tackle this. we are not seeing — government to tackle this. we are not seeing that _ government to tackle this. we are not seeing that and _ government to tackle this. we are not seeing that and this _ government to tackle this. we are not seeing that and this is - government to tackle this. we are not seeing that and this is just - government to tackle this. we are not seeing that and this is just a l not seeing that and this is just a symptom — not seeing that and this is just a symptom of— not seeing that and this is just a symptom of the _ not seeing that and this is just a symptom of the failure - not seeing that and this is just a symptom of the failure we - not seeing that and this is just a symptom of the failure we have| not seeing that and this is just a - symptom of the failure we have seen year after _ symptom of the failure we have seen year after year — symptom of the failure we have seen year after year after _ symptom of the failure we have seen year after year after year, _ symptom of the failure we have seen year after year after year, i - symptom of the failure we have seen year after year after year, i want - year after year after year, i want we have — year after year after year, i want we have instead? _ year after year after year, i want we have instead? government. we have instead? government ministers _ we have instead? government ministers stoking _ we have instead? government ministers stoking and - we have instead? governmenti ministers stoking and inflaming tensions— ministers stoking and inflaming tensions rather— ministers stoking and inflaming tensions rather than— ministers stoking and inflaming tensions rather than taking - ministers stoking and inflaming . tensions rather than taking action to make — tensions rather than taking action to make sure _ tensions rather than taking action to make sure that _ tensions rather than taking action to make sure that we _ tensions rather than taking action to make sure that we have - tensions rather than taking action to make sure that we have a - tensions rather than taking action l to make sure that we have a proper system _ to make sure that we have a proper system in _ to make sure that we have a proper system in the — to make sure that we have a proper system in the country _ to make sure that we have a proper system in the country for _ to make sure that we have a properi system in the country for processing cases— system in the country for processing cases quickly and _ system in the country for processing cases quickly and fairly _ system in the country for processing cases quickly and fairly so _ system in the country for processing cases quickly and fairly so people i cases quickly and fairly so people don't _ cases quickly and fairly so people don't have — cases quickly and fairly so people don't have to _ cases quickly and fairly so people don't have to wait _ cases quickly and fairly so people don't have to wait four— cases quickly and fairly so people don't have to wait four years - cases quickly and fairly so people don't have to wait four years on i don't have to wait four years on end _ don't have to wait four years on end i— don't have to wait four years on end i don't _ don't have to wait four years on end. i don't want _ don't have to wait four years on end. i don't want to _ don't have to wait four years on end. i don't want to live - don't have to wait four years on end. i don't want to live in - don't have to wait four years on end. i don't want to live in a - end. i don't want to live in a country— end. i don't want to live in a country where _ end. i don't want to live in a country where people - end. i don't want to live in a country where people have i end. i don't want to live in a i country where people have to end. i don't want to live in a - country where people have to spend months _ country where people have to spend months and — country where people have to spend months and months _ country where people have to spend months and months waiting - country where people have to spend months and months waiting for- country where people have to spend i months and months waiting for cases to be heard _ months and months waiting for cases to be heard and — months and months waiting for cases to be heard and in _ months and months waiting for cases to be heard and in many— months and months waiting for cases to be heard and in many cases- months and months waiting for cases to be heard and in many cases they. to be heard and in many cases they are people — to be heard and in many cases they are peopie that— to be heard and in many cases they are people that have _ to be heard and in many cases they are people that have got _ to be heard and in many cases they are people that have got good - are people that have got good grounds — are people that have got good grounds to— are people that have got good grounds to be _ are people that have got good grounds to be in— are people that have got good grounds to be in this - are people that have got good grounds to be in this country. | are people that have got good - grounds to be in this country. where they don't— grounds to be in this country. where they don't have _ grounds to be in this country. where they don't have grounds, _ grounds to be in this country. where they don't have grounds, let's- they don't have grounds, let's process— they don't have grounds, let's process their _ they don't have grounds, let's process their cases— they don't have grounds, let's process their cases and - they don't have grounds, let's process their cases and take i they don't have grounds, let's- process their cases and take action on that _ process their cases and take action on that let's — process their cases and take action on that let's go _ process their cases and take action on that. let's go through _ process their cases and take action on that. let's go through some - process their cases and take action on that. let's go through some of| on that. let's go through some of the practical— on that. let's go through some of the practical elements. _ on that. let's go through some of the practical elements. is - on that. let's go through some of the practical elements.— on that. let's go through some of the practical elements. as you say,. you blame — the practical elements. as you say,. you blame the _ the practical elements. as you say,. you blame the courts _ the practical elements. as you say,. you blame the courts for— the practical elements. as you say,. you blame the courts for blocking i you blame the courts for blocking flights going to rwanda but in order to send people to rwanda, you have to send people to rwanda, you have to build some sort of detention capacity here while people wait. how many people do you expect will be detained in the uk? i don't have a figure for that but we are building that capacity. there are a number of sites within the uk that have been announced quite recently that will be taking people. we want to decant the hotels. iiiiuuite we want to decant the hotels. quite a lot of opposition _ we want to decant the hotels. quite a lot of opposition from _ we want to decant the hotels. quite a lot of opposition from mps in those constituencies, tory mps, quite a lot of them. we those constituencies, tory mps, quite a lot of them.— those constituencies, tory mps, quite a lot of them. we are spending £6 million a — quite a lot of them. we are spending £6 million a day _ quite a lot of them. we are spending £6 million a day on _ quite a lot of them. we are spending £6 million a day on hotel— £6 million a day on hotel accommodation. we are processing claims. we have taken 12,000 people off the list already. what i'm hearing from labour is is to process people quicker. they don't want to stop the boats in the first place. that is the knob of the problem. we have to stop the illegal people trafficking of vulnerable people and make sure that is stopped. and then tackle the backlog of claims as well. ., ., ., tackle the backlog of claims as well. . . . . , . well. yet again what we hear is a total failure _ well. yet again what we hear is a total failure from _ well. yet again what we hear is a total failure from the _ well. yet again what we hear is a i total failure from the government. you are _ total failure from the government. you are a — total failure from the government. you are a government _ total failure from the government. you are a government minister. i total failure from the government. | you are a government minister. gill you are a government minister. all ou you are a government minister. you want to do is object but you are a government minister. iii you want to do is object but you don't have a policy of your own. you are a government _ don't have a policy of your own. you are a government minister. your party— are a government minister. your party have — are a government minister. your party have lreen— are a government minister. your party have been in— are a government minister. your party have been in power- are a government minister. your party have been in power for- are a government minister. your party have been in power for 13 i party have been in power for 13 years — party have been in power for 13 years you _ party have been in power for 13 years. you have _ party have been in power for 13 years. you have had _ party have been in power for 13 years. you have had ample - years. you have had ample opportunity— years. you have had ample opportunity to— years. you have had ample opportunity to deliver- years. you have had ample opportunity to deliver a - years. you have had ample i opportunity to deliver a better system~ — opportunity to deliver a better system. labour— opportunity to deliver a better system. labour would crack. opportunity to deliver a better. system. labour would crack down opportunity to deliver a better- system. labour would crack down on those _ system. labour would crack down on those criminal— system. labour would crack down on those criminal gangs. _ system. labour would crack down on those criminal gangs.— system. labour would crack down on those criminal gangs. how would you crackdown? — those criminal gangs. how would you crackdown? how _ those criminal gangs. how would you crackdown? how would _ those criminal gangs. how would you crackdown? how would you - those criminal gangs. how would you crackdown? how would you actually i crackdown? how would you actually sto the crackdown? how would you actually stop the people _ crackdown? how would you actually stop the people smuggling - crackdown? how would you actually i stop the people smuggling business? we would end the scheme, which is not going _ we would end the scheme, which is not going to — we would end the scheme, which is not going to work _ we would end the scheme, which is not going to work. we _ we would end the scheme, which is not going to work. we will- we would end the scheme, which is not going to work. we will put - we would end the scheme, which is not going to work. we will put that| not going to work. we will put that money— not going to work. we will put that money into— not going to work. we will put that money into working _ not going to work. we will put that money into working with _ not going to work. we will put that money into working with the - not going to work. we will put thati money into working with the french to make _ money into working with the french to make sure — money into working with the french to make sure the _ money into working with the french to make sure the gangs— money into working with the french to make sure the gangs are - money into working with the french to make sure the gangs are not - to make sure the gangs are not exploiting _ to make sure the gangs are not expl°iti"9-_ to make sure the gangs are not exploiting. how do you stop the demand that — exploiting. how do you stop the demand that would _ exploiting. how do you stop the demand that would still- exploiting. how do you stop the demand that would still be - exploiting. how do you stop the | demand that would still be there exploiting. how do you stop the - demand that would still be there for people to be brought across the channel or? it people to be brought across the channel or?— channel or? it has to involve workin: channel or? it has to involve working internationally in . working internationally in cooperation— working internationally in cooperation with - working internationally in - cooperation with international partners _ cooperation with international partners the _ cooperation with international partners. the government - cooperation with international| partners. the government has cooperation with international- partners. the government has trashed our record _ partners. the government has trashed our record internationally. _ partners. the government has trashed our record internationally. we - partners. the government has trashed our record internationally. we have . our record internationally. we have become _ our record internationally. we have become a _ our record internationally. we have become a laughing _ our record internationally. we have become a laughing stock— our record internationally. we have become a laughing stock in - our record internationally. we have become a laughing stock in many. become a laughing stock in many places _ become a laughing stock in many places we — become a laughing stock in many places. we need _ become a laughing stock in many places. we need to— become a laughing stock in many places. we need to rebuild - become a laughing stock in many places. we need to rebuild thosej places. we need to rebuild those relationships— places. we need to rebuild those relationships with _ places. we need to rebuild those relationships with international. relationships with international partners. — relationships with international partners, make _ relationships with international partners, make sure _ relationships with international partners, make sure we - relationships with international partners, make sure we are . relationships with international- partners, make sure we are managing that and _ partners, make sure we are managing that and deal— partners, make sure we are managing that and deal with _ partners, make sure we are managing that and deal with some _ partners, make sure we are managing that and deal with some of— partners, make sure we are managing that and deal with some of these - that and deal with some of these humanitarian _ that and deal with some of these humanitarian crises _ that and deal with some of these humanitarian crises to _ that and deal with some of these humanitarian crises to stop - that and deal with some of these i humanitarian crises to stop people lreing _ humanitarian crises to stop people lreing forced — humanitarian crises to stop people lreing forced to _ humanitarian crises to stop people being forced to flee _ humanitarian crises to stop people being forced to flee countries - humanitarian crises to stop people being forced to flee countries in i being forced to flee countries in the first— being forced to flee countries in the first place. _ being forced to flee countries in the first place.— being forced to flee countries in the first place. should moore save on leral the first place. should moore save on legal routes _ the first place. should moore save on legal routes be _ the first place. should moore save on legal routes be written - the first place. should moore save on legal routes be written into - the first place. should moore save on legal routes be written into the j on legal routes be written into the bill before it is passed? i on legal routes be written into the bill before it is passed?— bill before it is passed? i know that is a discussion _ bill before it is passed? i know that is a discussion being - bill before it is passed? i know that is a discussion being had i bill before it is passed? i knowl that is a discussion being had at the moment. the prime minister, before this legislation, had committed to safe legal routes. from my understanding, and it is a live debate because we are going in to vote on it this afternoon, is that it is likely to be on the face of the bill. it is disappointing labour would vote against that. that the bill. it is disappointing labour would vote against that.— the bill. it is disappointing labour would vote against that. that is not what we heard _ would vote against that. that is not what we heard when _ would vote against that. that is not what we heard when they _ would vote against that. that is not what we heard when they keep - would vote against that. that is not what we heard when they keep at i would vote against that. that is not i what we heard when they keep at the point to— what we heard when they keep at the point to tim — what we heard when they keep at the point to tim loughton. _ what we heard when they keep at the point to tim loughton. i _ what we heard when they keep at the point to tim loughton. i think- what we heard when they keep at the point to tim loughton. i think we - point to tim loughton. i think we were _ point to tim loughton. i think we were listening _ point to tim loughton. i think we were listening to _ point to tim loughton. i think we were listening to different - point to tim loughton. i think we were listening to different views. j were listening to different views. if were listening to different views. if there _ were listening to different views. if there are — were listening to different views. if there are going _ were listening to different views. if there are going to— were listening to different views. if there are going to be _ were listening to different views. if there are going to be any- were listening to different views. if there are going to be any more safe route — if there are going to be any more safe route they will tell us what they are — safe route they will tell us what they are i— safe route they will tell us what they are. i don't know if that is they are. i don't know if that is the commitment, that there will be an increase — the commitment, that there will be an increase. 0r talks a lot about what _ an increase. 0r talks a lot about what they— an increase. 0r talks a lot about what they are already doing and the safe routes that do exist for those from _ safe routes that do exist for those from ukraine, hong kong, but they are not— from ukraine, hong kong, but they are not talking a lot about other routes — are not talking a lot about other routes. ., are not talking a lot about other routes. . ., , routes. one final thing on this because there _ routes. one final thing on this because there is _ routes. one final thing on this because there is very - routes. one final thing on this because there is very much i routes. one final thing on this because there is very much a l routes. one final thing on this i because there is very much a live example of where they will be an increase, potentially, probably realistically, in terms of people claiming asylum, and those are young people from sudan. it is the government and should the government be looking at a safe and legal route there to start with? film be looking at a safe and legal route there to start with?— there to start with? our policy at there to start with? our policy at the moment _ there to start with? our policy at the moment is _ there to start with? our policy at the moment is extracting - there to start with? our policy at the moment is extracting british| there to start with? our policy at i the moment is extracting british -- the moment is extracting british —— british nationals and british passport holders out of sudan. we have flights going out at the moment while the ceasefire is holding. there are discussions between the foreign secretary and his counterparts about how to —— and support the region as a whole, ideally to stop the conflict in the first place. that is an ongoing piece work. our priorities my priority is getting british nationals out.— priority is getting british nationals out. �* . ., priority is getting british nationals out. �* , ., nationals out. let's return to some of the claims _ nationals out. let's return to some of the claims and _ nationals out. let's return to some of the claims and counter - nationals out. let's return to some of the claims and counter claims i of the claims and counter claims made between rishi sunak and keir starmer in the economy. keir starmer quoting george osborne, former chancellor, whom he said talk to a select committee of mps saying the tories were a bunch of vandals on the economy. if george osborne thinks that, as a former chancellor, who am i to disagree with? the prime minister has — who am i to disagree with? the prime minister has been _ who am i to disagree with? the prime minister has been very _ who am i to disagree with? the prime minister has been very clear - who am i to disagree with? the prime minister has been very clear on - who am i to disagree with? the prime minister has been very clear on his i minister has been very clear on his five priorities. tackling inflation, the biggest enemy to every household in every business in this country at the moment, is his absolute priority. we saw this week that there is extra help for people struggling at the moment. 8 million people as of yesterday will be getting £900 extra help and support. that is on top of paying half of people's energy bills for the last year. this is different times to probably when george osborne was chancellor. we have dealt with two years of a pandemic, had had to shut down the economy, we have now had the conflict in ukraine and the energy crisis has driven inflation. not normal economic times. we are making difficult decisions to what will happen in stable times. [10 making difficult decisions to what will happen in stable times. do you think he is also _ will happen in stable times. do you think he is also referring _ will happen in stable times. do you think he is also referring to - will happen in stable times. do you think he is also referring to the - think he is also referring to the fact that keir starmer talked about 24 fact that keir starmer talked about 2k tax rises? we have had the 2a tax rises? we have had the highest tax burden in 70 years. we have highest tax burden in 70 years. , have got local elections at the moment and you can see on the doorstep that those councils run by conservative councils have can significantly lower council tax than can —— labour councils. in my patch my cancer is run by lib dems and the greens. we have high council tax. we have raised the income tax threshold. it was £6,500 when we came in. we raise them to 12,500. last year we raise national insurance to the same levels of income tax. that gay people hundreds of pounds extra.— of pounds extra. millions more are -a in: of pounds extra. millions more are paying more _ of pounds extra. millions more are paying more tax- _ of pounds extra. millions more are paying more tax. they _ of pounds extra. millions more are paying more tax. they are. - of pounds extra. millions more are paying more tax. they are. it - of pounds extra. millions more are paying more tax. they are. it is i of pounds extra. millions more are| paying more tax. they are. it is the hi . hest paying more tax. they are. it is the highest tax — paying more tax. they are. it is the highest tax burden. _ paying more tax. they are. it is the highest tax burden. you _ paying more tax. they are. it is the highest tax burden. you may - paying more tax. they are. it is the highest tax burden. you may be i highest tax burden. you may be reducing it in some areas but it is being outdone by freezing people's tax threshold, where they are paying far more tax, more people are paying more tax? . far more tax, more people are paying more tax? , . . ., more tax? yes, the chancellor will look at that _ more tax? yes, the chancellor will look at that in _ more tax? yes, the chancellor will look at that in the _ more tax? yes, the chancellor will look at that in the coming - more tax? yes, the chancellor willj look at that in the coming months. but we have to be responsible. we saw what happened on a budget where we give money away. the reduced tax we give money away. the reduced tax we have to borrow money from somewhere else. 0r take it out of existing pots. somewhere else. or take it out of existing pots-— existing pots. that was your government's _ existing pots. that was your government's budget. - existing pots. that was your government's budget. the i existing pots. that was your - government's budget. the prime minister has _ government's budget. the prime minister has been _ government's budget. the prime minister has been very _ government's budget. the prime minister has been very clear - government's budget. the prime minister has been very clear thatj minister has been very clear that mistakes were made. what we cannot do is give tax price at the moment when the economy is just about the recovery. ——just when the economy is just about the recovery. —— just about to recover. 24 recovery. —— just about to recover. 2a tax rises, which of those would you reverse? irate 24 tax rises, which of those would you reverse?— 24 tax rises, which of those would ou reverse? ~ . ., , . . you reverse? we want to see a much fairer tax system. _ you reverse? we want to see a much fairer tax system. are _ you reverse? we want to see a much fairer tax system. are you _ you reverse? we want to see a much fairer tax system. are you going - you reverse? we want to see a much fairer tax system. are you going to i fairer tax system. are you going to reverse the — fairer tax system. are you going to reverse the 24 _ fairer tax system. are you going to reverse the 24 tax _ fairer tax system. are you going to reverse the 24 tax rises _ fairer tax system. are you going to reverse the 24 tax rises you - fairer tax system. are you going to reverse the 24 tax rises you have i reverse the 24 tax rises you have accused him of putting in place? i accused him of putting in place? i will tell you one change we would make. _ will tell you one change we would make. but — will tell you one change we would make, but rishi sunak referred to as the non—dom thing. he has benefited to the _ the non—dom thing. he has benefited to the tune _ the non—dom thing. he has benefited to the tune of £20 million by his failure _ to the tune of £20 million by his failure to— to the tune of £20 million by his failure to end that status. that raises £12 _ failure to end that status. that raises £3.2 billion. _ failure to end that status. trust raises £3.2 billion. beyond that what would you do? we raises £3.2 billion. beyond that what would you do?— raises £3.2 billion. beyond that what would you do? raises £3.2 billion. beyond that what would ou do? ~ ., , . what would you do? we would put that mone into what would you do? we would put that money into delivering _ what would you do? we would put that money into delivering the _ what would you do? we would put that money into delivering the biggest - money into delivering the biggest expansion and generation of the nhs workforce _ expansion and generation of the nhs workforce. we would make sure families— workforce. we would make sure families are supported during the cost of— families are supported during the cost of living crisis.— cost of living crisis. what about reversing? _ cost of living crisis. what about reversing? he _ cost of living crisis. what about reversing? he is _ cost of living crisis. what about reversing? he is accusing - cost of living crisis. what about reversing? he is accusing rishi| reversing? he is accusing rishi sunak of presiding over endless increases in taxes. you would add another one by scrapping the non—dom status. i another one by scrapping the non-dom status. ~ , ., . , ., . status. i think you can afford that. what i status. i think you can afford that. what i am — status. i think you can afford that. what i am asking _ status. i think you can afford that. what i am asking you _ status. i think you can afford that. what i am asking you is, - status. i think you can afford that. what i am asking you is, which i status. i think you can afford that. i what i am asking you is, which once are you going to reverse? taste what i am asking you is, which once are you going to reverse?— are you going to reverse? we will deliver a fairer _ are you going to reverse? we will deliver a fairer tax _ are you going to reverse? we will deliver a fairer tax system - are you going to reverse? we will deliver a fairer tax system across| deliver a fairer tax system across the board, — deliver a fairer tax system across the board, whether that is ending the board, whether that is ending the tax _ the board, whether that is ending the tax loopholes, enjoying the non-dom — the tax loopholes, enjoying the non—dom —— ending the non—dom tax status _ non-dom -- ending the non-dom tax status. , ., non-dom -- ending the non-dom tax status. , . ., . , ., status. they are not cuts though, are they? where _ status. they are not cuts though, are they? where are _ status. they are not cuts though, are they? where are you - status. they are not cuts though, are they? where are you going i status. they are not cuts though, j are they? where are you going to reverse increases in taxes? there was one suggestion from frances 0'grady, that was another tax increase. they are all tax increases. where the tax cuts? taste increases. where the tax cuts? we want a fairer tax system across the board _ want a fairer tax system across the board we — want a fairer tax system across the board. we are committed to cutting interest— board. we are committed to cutting interest rates for small businesses to make _ interest rates for small businesses to make a — interest rates for small businesses to make a difference to the high street — to make a difference to the high street so — to make a difference to the high street. so there is a more level playing — street. so there is a more level playing field when it comes to the untaxed _ playing field when it comes to the untaxed giants that don't pay their fair share — untaxed giants that don't pay their fair share of tax. but overall, we will inherit, _ fair share of tax. but overall, we will inherit, the next labour government, if we secure the trust of the _ government, if we secure the trust of the british people, will inherit a very— of the british people, will inherit a very difficult climate because of the crash — a very difficult climate because of the crash the conservatives have delivered, — the crash the conservatives have delivered, 13 years of failure, where — delivered, 13 years of failure, where people are seeing stagnant wages. _ where people are seeing stagnant wages, taxes going up and working people. _ wages, taxes going up and working people, and people know they are worse _ people, and people know they are worse off — people, and people know they are worse off. it is all very good and well for— worse off. it is all very good and well for rishi sunak to stand at the dispatch— well for rishi sunak to stand at the dispatch box and pretend everything is wonderful and people should be grateful— is wonderful and people should be grateful for where we are. your view is pretty— grateful for where we are. your view is pretty tough at the moment. every time they— is pretty tough at the moment. every time they go to the shop and they put things— time they go to the shop and they put things back because they can't afford _ put things back because they can't afford it. _ put things back because they can't afford it, taxes are going up, everything is more expensive. you mentioned — everything is more expensive. gm. mentioned wages and pay. let me show you changes in pace in 2012, since there have been conservative governments, the first one a correlation with the lib dems. looking at that graph, looking at all public sector workers, down by 7.7%. is it any wonder people are on strike? ., _, , 7.7%. is it any wonder people are on strike? ., . ., , . strike? no, we recognise what the ublic strike? no, we recognise what the public sector _ strike? no, we recognise what the public sector workers _ strike? no, we recognise what the public sector workers are - strike? no, we recognise what the public sector workers are asking i strike? no, we recognise what the | public sector workers are asking for a pay rise. that is why we have been in negotiations. it is why we are disappointed, for example, with the rcn when they agreed a deal on pay, that when they put it to their members... that when they put it to their members- - -_ members... the leadership recommended _ members... the leadership recommended it _ members... the leadership recommended it and - members... the leadership recommended it and it - members... the leadership recommended it and it was| members... the leadership i recommended it and it was rep members... the leadership - recommended it and it was rep as -- recommended it and it was rep as —— rejected. perhaps it wasn't enough. does the author need to be increased?— does the author need to be increased? , . , . . increased? the difficulty we have at the moment — increased? the difficulty we have at the moment is _ increased? the difficulty we have at the moment is inflation. _ increased? the difficulty we have at the moment is inflation. we - increased? the difficulty we have at the moment is inflation. we are - the moment is inflation. we are seeing fuel and energy prices coming down, so we are confident inflation will drop pretty significantly quite soon. if we then replace that with wages driving inflation, nobody will be better off. they might get a 10%, 50% pay rise, but they will pay for it in the shops, in their bills. hugo it in the shops, in their bills. huw pill, the it in the shops, in their bills. huw pm, the chief— it in the shops, in their bills. huw pill, the chief economist at the bank of england, agrees with that, that workers should accept we are poorer, they shouldn't be asking for inflation matching pay rises. do you agree with that?— agree with that? after 13 years of conservative _ agree with that? after 13 years of conservative government, - agree with that? after 13 years of. conservative government, working people _ conservative government, working people are — conservative government, working people are worse off. the chart you have just _ people are worse off. the chart you have just showed demonstrated the changes— have just showed demonstrated the changes we have seen since 2010. this is— changes we have seen since 2010. this is not— changes we have seen since 2010. this is notjust people dissatisfied because _ this is notjust people dissatisfied because of what has taken place over the last— because of what has taken place over the last year or two. this is because _ the last year or two. this is because over the cost of more than a decade _ because over the cost of more than a decade people do bridget wrecked my brilliant _ decade people do bridget wrecked my brilliant work like teachers and nurses — brilliant work like teachers and nurses have suffered real terms pay cuts~ _ nurses have suffered real terms pay cuts~ they _ nurses have suffered real terms pay cuts. they are fed up. . if nurses have suffered real terms pay cuts. they are fed up.— cuts. they are fed up. . if you win next year. — cuts. they are fed up. . if you win next year, let's _ cuts. they are fed up. . if you win next year, let's assume _ cuts. they are fed up. . if you win next year, let's assume it - cuts. they are fed up. . if you win next year, let's assume it is - cuts. they are fed up. . if you win| next year, let's assume it is next, you would reduce that. you will reverse that?— reverse that? the next labour government — reverse that? the next labour government will _ reverse that? the next labour government will face - reverse that? the next labour government will face a very i government will face a very difficult _ government will face a very difficult inheritance because of the way the _ difficult inheritance because of the way the conservatives have crashed the economy. way the conservatives have crashed the economy-— way the conservatives have crashed the econom . ~ .. ., ,., the economy. when we came into power we had a recession. _ the economy. when we came into power we had a recession. and _ the economy. when we came into power we had a recession. and a _ the economy. when we came into power we had a recession. and a post-it - we had a recession. and a post—it note saying, there is no money left. the brass neck, maria. people are right— the brass neck, maria. people are right now— the brass neck, maria. people are right now paying more on their rent and mortgages because of your party and mortgages because of your party and the _ and mortgages because of your party and the decisions that you all talk last year. — and the decisions that you all talk last year, with liz truss, that is what _ last year, with liz truss, that is what we — last year, with liz truss, that is what we are _ last year, with liz truss, that is what we are seeing right now. the decision— what we are seeing right now. the decision due to a costing people. let decision due to a costing people. let her— decision due to a costing people. let her respond. the government says it reversed a lot of that. {30 let her respond. the government says it reversed a lot of that.— it reversed a lot of that. go on, maria? for— it reversed a lot of that. go on, maria? for two _ it reversed a lot of that. go on, maria? for two years _ it reversed a lot of that. go on, maria? for two years we - it reversed a lot of that. go on, - maria? for two years we supported people during covid—19. we paid peoples bills with father. these are not normal economic times. we are getting the country back on that is not to dismiss the impact of the last labour government that gave us a recession, that took us years to come out of... a recession, that took us years to come out of. . ._ a recession, that took us years to come out of... every woman expect when ou come out of... every woman expect when you have — come out of... every woman expect when you have a — come out of... every woman expect when you have a globally _ come out of... every woman expect when you have a globally pandemic| when you have a globally pandemic like that— when you have a globally pandemic like that government step in and take action. absolutely. we backed the government many of those measures. but to pretend the consequences from that mini budget, that reckless, absolutely irresponsible mini budget, i've not had real— irresponsible mini budget, i've not had real life consequences for people. — had real life consequences for people, and public sector pay, because — people, and public sector pay, because you see what happens when you make _ because you see what happens when you make reckless commitments, iam not going _ you make reckless commitments, iam not going to _ you make reckless commitments, iam not going to commit to things, i cannot— not going to commit to things, i cannot be — not going to commit to things, i cannot be confident i can deliver. if cannot be confident i can deliver. if you _ cannot be confident i can deliver. if you look— cannot be confident i can deliver. if you look at a record of the last labour— if you look at a record of the last labour government, with the 13 years that we _ labour government, with the 13 years that we were in power, teachers saw real terms _ that we were in power, teachers saw real terms pay increase. it that we were in power, teachers saw real terms pay increase.— real terms pay increase. it was a lona real terms pay increase. it was a long time _ real terms pay increase. it was a long time ago- _ real terms pay increase. it was a long time ago. it _ real terms pay increase. it was a long time ago. it is _ real terms pay increase. it was a long time ago. it is about - real terms pay increase. it was a i long time ago. it is about political riorities. long time ago. it is about political priorities- it _ long time ago. it is about political priorities. it is _ long time ago. it is about political priorities. it is about _ long time ago. it is about political priorities. it is about the - priorities. it is about the difference governments can make different — difference governments can make different choices.— different choices. historically eo - le different choices. historically people would _ different choices. historically people would set _ different choices. historically people would set you - different choices. historically i people would set you inherited different choices. historically - people would set you inherited an economy that was on the rise in 1997. ., ., 1997. the next labour government will not be inheriting _ 1997. the next labour government will not be inheriting an _ 1997. the next labour government will not be inheriting an economy i 1997. the next labour government i will not be inheriting an economy on the rise _ will not be inheriting an economy on the rise. ., . ., , . , ., will not be inheriting an economy on the rise. ., ., ., , ., , ., ., the rise. you want to update us on a sto we the rise. you want to update us on a story we did — the rise. you want to update us on a story we did on _ the rise. you want to update us on a story we did on labour _ the rise. you want to update us on a story we did on labour membership| story we did on labour membership numbers. we said there were 450,000. you have an updated figure? mr; you have an updated figure? my understanding is they were all numbers _ understanding is they were all numbers. and we are seeing really strong _ numbers. and we are seeing really strong numbers.— numbers. and we are seeing really strong numbers. they are the latest ublished strong numbers. they are the latest published figures, _ strong numbers. they are the latest published figures, aren't _ strong numbers. they are the latest published figures, aren't they? - strong numbers. they are the latest published figures, aren't they? my i published figures, aren't they? my understanding is they are not quite correct _ understanding is they are not quite correct. where we saw a big increase. _ correct. where we saw a big increase, the biggest number we have ever seen— increase, the biggest number we have ever seen in— increase, the biggest number we have ever seen in one day, when liz truss resigned _ ever seen in one day, when liz truss resigned as — ever seen in one day, when liz truss resigned as prime minister. we are a strong _ resigned as prime minister. we are a strong and _ resigned as prime minister. we are a strong and buoyant party making big strides— strong and buoyant party making big strides across the country and keir starmer— strides across the country and keir starmer has transformed the labour party _ starmer has transformed the labour pa . ~ ., starmer has transformed the labour pa . . ., ., starmer has transformed the labour pa . . . . starmer has transformed the labour party. what are your membership numbers? i _ party. what are your membership numbers? i don't _ party. what are your membership numbers? i don't know. - party. what are your membership numbers? i don't know. that's i numbers? i don't know. that's honest. thank _ numbers? i don't know. that's honest. thank you _ numbers? i don't know. that's honest. thank you for - numbers? i don't know. that's honest. thank you forjoining i numbers? i don't know. that's i honest. thank you forjoining us. that's all for today. i am back on monday with more politics life. in fact, i will several hundred british nationals escaping the fighting in sudan are on their way back to the uk. they're on flights out of the capital khartoum to cyprus — the first plane from larnaca is due to land shortly. it was bad, it was bad, it was very bad. i don't even want to remember it. we'll have the latest on the evacuation attempts. also this lunchtime: police recruits — nearly 21,000 officers have been signed up by forces across england and wales in the last three years. whistleblowers tell the bbc they had concerns about the safety of patients and staff at the mental health care provider the priory group. a leading foodbank charity says it's handed out more emergency parcels across the uk than ever before — nearly 3 million in the year to march.

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