years as a young adult in california, there were two female senators, senators dianne feinstein and barbara boxer, both elected in 1992 during the so-called year of the woman. i was 9 years old when that happened, too young to grasp what was going on, and not entirely aware of anita hill saga that prompted it so to me it was norm toll look to have washington and see two women representing my state. completely normal to see one of those women led by bipartisan -- or to see her lead the intelligence committee or see her held to account for egregious wrong doing after 9/11 or see her stand up to the chief to get an apology out of it. it was norm toll watch dianne feinstein work in washington, and i know you see this coming, but looking back at the unremarkability is precisely what makes it so remarkable. wasn't until i came an adult covering politics that i understood how hard she had to fight, sometimes against wings of her own party. today the flags around the capitol are flying at half staff, and on her desk in the senate is a black shroud and a vase of white roses. as some of the people who knew her best remember a life that was anything but normal. >> it is profound sadness that we bid farewell to my dear friend, colleague, and outright champion for the state of california. >> what we talk about the giant on whose shoulders we stand, for me that's dianne. she was unlike any senator i met when i first got here in 2009. she had a really incredible combination of elegance, brilliance, stature, certainty, toughness, and kindness. >> at one point one year, she bought seersucker suits for every woman who was serving in the senate so that we could all participate in seersucker tuesday. that was dianne. >> joining us now is msnbc senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell. she covered senator feinstein extensively. the warmth we saw from the senators today about dianne feinstein i think was a remarkable thing to see, especially in a time of so much division. >> it's the kind of thing that made the senate a notable and fast night place to cover beyond the ups and downs of whatever the political moment is, to see across the aisle and both men and women having real friendships and real personal stories about someone who was a trailblazer in many chapters of her life. from san francisco -- i so enjoyed hearing you reflections on being a californian and knowing her. the seersucker suit comment that senator susan collins just talked about is one of those examples. there's a tradition on capitol hill in the springtime to have all the senators in seersucker. it's a throwback because the swampy heat that is washington. and senator feinstein had considerable means, and not everyone in the senate did, and she wanted people to be able to participate, so she covered the ladies in the senate and made sure they all had a sear sucker suit, whether they wanted that or not and they would wear that and take a photo together. also, the art work senator collins had at her shoulder there, senator feinstein did pencil art and gave those at gifts to colleagues and friends. that was not something known about her publicly. the other thing that stands out to me are the contrasts, talking about seersucker suits and art and the toughness she possessed. i would cover her. she was at the top of the intelligence committee. think about times when the osama bin laden raid took place. it was senator feinstein who would have a small group of reporters come in, and she would walk us through what she was able to talk about publicly. give us gripping detail. i had my first account of what went on from her. she took all of those responsibilities seriously, especially when it came to her passionate views about gun violence, lgbtq rights, the role of women. and the senator is a different place in the time that she has been there. in recent months there has been a focus on her decline. today people are reminded looking back at the sweep of her accomplishments, why her tenure was so notable and the legacy she leaves for other women in life and on the issues she has been so passionate about. >> looking forward, what happens to her senate seat now? >> well, in the short-term, governor newsom has the ability to appoint, so there will be presumably -- he would appoint a fellow democrat. he said publicly he intends to appoint a woman of color, and there is an active campaign under way, because senator feinstein was not going to seek re-election. so there is a primary field of candidates. so one of the questions will be, will he choose someone who is not in the running, or will he choose someone who might be a candidate? that will take a little time, but it will come quickly. >> i think he said he doesn't want to choose a candidate, doesn't want to give anyone a heads up. kelly, good to have you. thank you so much. joining us now, the other female senator elected in 1992, long time colleague of dianne feinstein, former california senator barbara boxer. thank you for being here. i want to play back the moment you were both elected. you stood together. let's play it. >> in california, california becomes the first state to send two women on to the u.s. senator. the charlotte one for the long seat, barbara boxer beats bruce and the long one for the short seat as they called it, dianne feinstein defeating john seymour, the encumbent in california. and in washington, the mom in tennis shoes, patty murray a winner over rod chandler. that is four new women now. >> the mom in tennis shoes. i like that. but we'll leave it aside for now. what are you remembering today about your former colleague? >> first, dianne, rest in peace. she has a legacy that's unbelievable, and the last year has been hard. so she deserves that rest. but i have to smile when i listen to my former colleagues talking about her gifts. i'm wearing a watch right now that she bought for me. i don't think she liked my watch that i had, so she went out and bought me this watch. but i have another show and tell thing for you. if you can see this, tell me if people can see it. it's a cartoon -- is it good? >> i got it, i see it. thelma and louise. >> that was what we were called when we ran. it's not effecting evidence that we would have been that close. because in those years when you were just a little girl, the word was women could not get along. and certainly two women running for the senate, we never everyone had one woman elected. how could this be? and dianne was very popular then. she had run an excellent race for governor. didn't win it, but she was known statewide. forged in tragedy as the mayor of san francisco. people rescued and loved her and trusted her, and i just had this little congressional district in a tiny part of this huge state. she could have said to me, barbara, you're on your own, and i would have understood. instead, she grabbed my hand, and we did become the thelma and louise or cageny and lacy. everyone though she was moderate and i was liberal, it didn't matter. the we had differences, they never were personal. that was quite a ride. 20 years working with her in the state senate. >> i was a kid with stars in my eyes. i thought i could be president of the united states, a supreme court justice. i never once thought because i was a girl i couldn't do those things and i think part of the reason was i was looking at california and my two state senators were women. i never thought there was a time where that wasn't the case when i was a young girl. tell me about the early days in the year of the woman, the early days when these freshman female lawmakers came to washington on the heels of the anita hill controversy. >> first of all, i want to say that i never would have run my race without dianne, but also without anita hill, who made the point that, you know, women were just not represented in the senate. people looked at that hearing, they didn't see any women or people of color. and it began to change right then and there. but it was rough. i mean, i just want to spend a second about the campaign. people would say to me, oh, i could vote for one woman, but i can't vote for two women. and somebody else would say, oh, i could vote for two women, but not two jewish women. and, you know, dianne had her answer, she'd say, 2% may be good for the fat content of milk, but it's not good enough for the u.s. senate. because we only had 2% women. and i would say, if anything the senate needs some chicken soup right now. so we took it with a sense a humor, but it was really a lot of prejudice. and we knew when we got there that we had to prove a couple things. one, that we could lead. two that we could work together without fighting. we actually had one reporter, katie, who had a column, he was waiting for us to fight, because people knew we were a little bit in different wings of the party. and we never did. i finally went to the editor and said, would you do this about two men, follow them around, waiting for them to fight? so we had a lot of things to overcome. the guys would see us talking on the floor, the six women or something that were there. and they'd say, what are you plotting? no, we were just talking about this bill, this vote. it was really something. but i think all of us worked across party lines. the republican women, the democratic women of the senate, and now you see 25% of the women senate and rising, i hope, and dianne's elected seat is remarkable. her work on the only assault weapons ban. only regret was it lasted only ten years. it should have been a forever bill. that was unfortunate. she put acres and acres into wilderness here, protected the desert, did so many things. we've talked about those things. they're all legacy. but you know, she was a one of a kind. when i went to her and told her i wasn't going run in 2016, she got mad at me. she said, why on earth would you leave? you're at the top of your game. you're the chairman of the environment committee. and i said, well, you know, it's just a feeling i have that it's time for me to step aside. she never really quite got over that. >> yeah, there was an article in "the times" about life after the senate, and you were featured in. that life doesn't look too bad for you now. senator boxer, thanks so much for joining us. i have to leave it there. we have somebody who was waiting in the wings who was chuckling as you were make your 2% joke, and that is senator amy klobuchar, another long time colleague of senator feinstein. senator, thank you for being here. >> thanks, katie. >> i want to ask the question i was going to ask senator boxer, but i'm going to give it to you now. there's concern among constituents in california that the bipartisanship that senator feinstein championed, this idea of reaching across the aisle as much as humanly possible is perhaps going to die with her or already has died, and it's just not the same as it used to be and won't ever be the same. do you feel that? is that a correct assumption about the united states senate right now? >> look, there have been change, we know. that it's not as easy. but right now you see the senate being grownups. nearly 80 senators supported a bipartisan bill that mitch mcconnell, chuck schumer negotiated, right? with senator schumer's leadership, we are -- it would take us through the middle of november and allow us to do a final budget for next year. consistently we have had major republican support for that. i can't speak to the house, but i think dianne's legacy continues. you've heard the tributes from dianne collins, senator murkowski, patty murray. for me i was listening to barbara with a smile. she was such a character, dianne, and you don't have as many characters these days. she held her head high, she would disagree with people in her own party. at one point i stayed at her house after a political event in san francisco. she kicked the men out and said, you stay here. in the morning at 7:30, she summoned me to her room where she was sitting up ramrod straight, in her furry slippers, reading a 200-page document about the patent reformat and started grilling me. that was dianne. she came into power at a time women had to be prepared, had to be serious. they couldn't have a lot of emotion. and that kind of model for me really helped me when i got to the senate. >> i wonder what you learned from her in terms of getting things done. it's a stated fact that women get more done in congress than the men do. women reach across the aisle, pass more legislation, are behind more successful legislation. did you learn anything from her about how to get things done? >> yeah, to be fearless and not give up. you think about that torture report, she was isolated on that, where she investigated what had been happening in iraq. who came to join her on the senate floor? john mccain because of the relationship they had built over the past and because he had his own horrific experience with torture. she was able to pass landmark legislation on the assault weapon ban. she was able the lead on conservation issues for california, as barbara pointed out. and maybe it was -- she came into power when not hardly any women were running major cities, and it was through this tragedy, an assassination of the mayor and harvey milk. she had to stand before the city and tell them what happened and take the reigns, and that leadership through the storm was still there. for me for young women, getting them to run for things they're like it's too brutal. i don't want to get attacked. i always think of dianne. the mission and what she was trying to get done and her responsibility for whatever day it was or committee it was would rule over anything that happened on the sides. she led, and that's her model. >> she wasn't afraid to stand up to powerful men as well, even getting an apology out of the cia director, john brennan a few years ago. >> correct. >> let me ask you about bipartisan gun legislation. the assault weapons ban. she championed it. fought for it even after it was sunseted. she was still fighting for it up until the end. do you see that coming pass again? will her life's work in this area get fulfilled again eventually? >> i believe at some point we'll pass gun safety legislation again. and i think it was some tribute to her that democrats and republicans came together with president biden's leadership just a summer ago and passed that gun safety bill. that meant that a number of republicans had to take on the nra and some leaders in their own party to get it done, but after what happened in uvalde, in buffalo, the horror of people and kids being killed, enough was enough. the fact that dianne never gave up and kept championing the cause, it's time came and will come again. and without her leadership, we wouldn't have gotten to where we were to at least pass once again gun safety legislation. >> texas senator john cornyn getting censured by the texas gop for his work on that 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shutdowns are stupid, cost us an a tremendous amount of money. we have to try the get our work done. >> there are some members of your conference who seem unwilling to pass any deal to stop this shutdown. unwilling for personal reasons or principles reasons that they just think that their demands on the budget are never going to get met unless they do something drastic. i'm not saying it's a smart idea or not a smart idea, but that's what they're doing. if you think a shutdown is such a bad idea and so bad for everyone, why not come up with a short-term spending bill that democrats can get on board with as well or paz whatever the senate hands down to you? >> if we could get some sort of a cr that cuts spending and secures the border, i'd work with anybody to get that done, and i think you see that approach building a little steam in the senate. the senate has generally beens resent to take up border security until last week, and now all of a sudden i think they understand what an important issue this is for the house. that's one of the big tragedies i think of my plan that, as you alluded to, went down on the house floor today. the stopgap funding measure i offered would have kept government open, cut funding, and secured the border. i'm frustrated that 21 republicans sided with the democrats to defeat my measure. >> i think the border is an interesting thing to bring into this fight, and i do think it's something that is bubbling up more in democratic cities. obviously here in new york being one of those cities. i wonder if attaching it to this bill, though, is the best route, if not maybe separating it and forcing there to be debate on it, there to be a compromise on the border. everybody wants to see comprehensive immigration reform. why not use this opportunity to build something big instead of trying to jam it into a budge bill? >> i don't think we're trying to jam it into anything. let's be clear, the republicans in the house have been negotiating -- not negotiating -- debating for nine months border regulations. democrats have had an opportunity to vote for some, against others. but what you're really talking about is trust. okay, let's do a continuing resolution and then we can hope we get a border win in a month or two or three. the reality is joe biden failed on the border last month and the month before that and the month before that. honestly republican patience with this crisis at the border is at an absolute end. as you mentioned, an increasing number of democratic mayors are also publicly critical of the president. let's get it done now. >> i got a lot of questions on the border but i don't have a lot of time, so i'm going to move on the speaker mccarthy. what does he do? does he survive this? do the democrats come to save him? if the democrats table a motion to vacate or don't participate in a vote with a motion to vacate, and i'm going to ask congressman clyburn about this in a moment -- do republicans see him as an effective leader? or do they revolt? >> i think the narrative surrounding kevin mccarthy's frail hold on leadership has really been overdone. the reality is he's the right guy to run the house. that's why you have not seen a motion to vacate in nine months. i talk with the media approximately 100 times more about a motion to vacate than i've talked to members of the house, and it may be that two or three people are going to chirp out about it, but the reality is the democrats are not going to need to bail out kevin mccarthy. he's moved forward an appropriations process. he's put forward a continuing resolution that would have cut spending, secured the boarder and kept government open. i think there is a lot more conservatives to like about his leadership. >> congressman, thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it. please come back. as this comes to a head. i'll be anchoring tomorrow night. >> see you then, thanks. >> joining me now, congressman james clie burn. i want to start where i just left off dusty johnson. let me ask you about kevin mccarthy. i know he doesn't think there's going to be a motion to vacate, but it's likely there will be according to talk from some members of the house republican conference. if there is a motion to vacate for kevin mccarthy, do democrats table that motion? you only need 20 or so if i'm right. or do they not table at all? >> thank you very much for having me. first of all, i don't know. we have nod not had a meeting on that subject. i suspect. negotiations are going on between the speaker and hakeem jeffries, the democratic leader. he is going to inform us as to what the validity of any arguments may be, what the viability of any approaches might be. we want to keep the government open, and i would challenge anybody to give me one instance in the 30 years i have been here when you've heard a democrat advocating for closing down the government. that's not the way they do business. we sit down, we negotiate, we try to find common ground, and we go forward from there. this whole notion of voting things down, threatening people, bullying people, we just don't approach governance that way. we try to maintain an atmosphere of goodwill and hope we can find common ground. and if the speaker were to do that, i think he'd find a listening ear in leader jefferies. >> what sort of compromise? i know you're not negotiating it, but what would you want to see? what sort of concessions would you want to see in order for you to feel comfortable tabling a motion or not voting at all? >> first of all, i want to see us keep the deal. the deal was made back in the spring. the agreement between the speaker and the president was made on what the top lines would be. the senate went to business, marking up all of their appropriations to that top line. in the house, they went to business of negating what had been done by the speaker, walking away from the deal. and where we said we would compromise on how we feed women, infants and children, no, they want an 80% cut in that. when we say we want to take care of people -- we are approaching the winter months. we expect some harsh winters. we're trying to take care of people who would need government assistance in. that no, they want to cut that by 70%. these are the kinds of differences that we have here. and the american people needs to know that what democrats are doing is trying to keep the government open, trying to serve their needs, doing what we agreed to do way back in the spring rather than walking away from the deal. that's what's going on here. >> so, what i hear you saying is you want to see the republicans and kevin mccarthy hold fast on the deal he already made with the president, which was to cut spending a bit, but not the way that they're currently proposing. is that what you're going to need in order to keep him -- to keep kevin mccarthy with a gavel, to keep him in the speaker's office? >> well, if he were to agree he's going to do that, i'll follow the leader, leader jefferies. but if he asks me my opinion i'll give it to him. as far as public position, i made it very clear -- stay with the deal we made. if we want to add monies for ukraine, the nato means as much to this country as it means to any other members. we need to be protecting our place in the world. we cannot isolate ourselves from the rest of the world and think that we are going to maintain the leadership position we have had as a nation for so many years. take care of ukraine and let's do what we need to do for all of these disasters, these wildfires that's wreaked havoc in communities. we need to take care of these people. and yes, put monies there in the senate to secure the border, but not to do this crazy stuff building walls that people will find a way over. >> i think finding bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform would be welcome by everybody in this country. i think we clear i need it, and democrats are clearly feeling it more in democratic cities, certainly here in new york. i think there's a bit of a clamber for it so i wonder if it could happen in the next congress. i know it's an odd question to focus on the democrats saving the leader of another party but i ask it because at the very least speaker mccarthy talks to hakeem jeffries, leader jefferies. they have a relationship. they have a rapport. do you think about what might come after him? if he loses the gavel, whether that would be worse for the democrats? maybe it's somebody a little bit more hard line. or maybe it's that they can't come to an agreement at all, and the government stays shut down for who knows how long. >> that's a bridge i'll cross when they get it to. >> we're pretty close to that bridge, you know, we're counting down the hours. >> we are, but i try to confine my internal politics to my caucus. i'm not going to tell the republican conference how to conduct themselves. but if they were to introduce a resolution to vacate the chair, i 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people responsible for tupac's violent murder accountable. just like we do for every victim in our city, every victim, every light that's lost is important and remains a priority to this police department. as we methodically built this case to move forward with an arrest, it's important that at the same time we're building towards a successful prosecution. we worked closely with our esteemed district attorney steve wolfson and his office to ensure that is going to happen. mr. davis' own words reinvigorated our case in 2018. going to give you some of those details and introduce to you our homicide lieutenant jason johansson, and he will provide you many of the details on how we got here today. >> thank you, everybody, for being here today. my name's jason johansson and i'm the homicide lieutenant with the las vegas metropolitan police department. my goal is to walk you through our investigation and what led us to the indictment of dwayne davis, also known as keefe d. for the murder of tupac shakur. this case has been reviewed by our team for over two and a half decades and ultimately our persistence in this investigation has paid off. let me walk you through a time line of events as we know them right now. prior to september 7th of 1996, as we all know, tupac shakur was an artist who was signed with death row records, and that death row records and its ceo, marion shug knight were closely afilled with the mob pyru street gangs and had an ongoing feud with the south side compton krips. dwayne davis was the leader and shot caller of the south side krips, and both gangs operated out of the southern california area of compton. september 7th of 1996, tupac shakur along with shug knight and member of their entourage game to vegas to attend the mike tyson fight. members of the crips, which included dwayne davis along with his nephew orlando anderson were also in attendance at the same event. as both were leaving the fight, member of death row records spotted orlando anderson near an elevator bank inside the mgm, and at that time they began to kick and punch him near that elevator bank. i will now show you hotel security footage as many of you have already seen related to this incident. on this incident you'll see tupac shakur who's wearing a shiny, satiny shirt along with marion shug knight, a large man in a brown suit punching and kicking orlando anderson. following this incidence, you'll see hotel security intervene, and then they will leave the area of the fight. little did anyone know that it is this incident right here that would ultimately lead to the retaliatory shooting and death of tupac shakur. following this incident, tupac and shug knight both left the mgm to make their way to a post-fight party which was to occur at a local nightclub. at the same time word spread amongst members of the south side compton crips of what occurred in the mgm, and that's when dwayne davis began the devise a plan to obtain a firearm and retaliate against shug knight and mr. shakur for what occurred inside the hotel against mr. anderson. after davis obtained a gun, he entered into a white cadillac along with terrence brown, deandre smith, and orlando anderson. based on our investigation, which is where we know they were seated. so at the time as they were in the white cadillac, mr. davis took the gun that he had obtained and provided it to the passengers in the rear seat of the vehicle. as they were both -- as they were driving west on flamingo road they located the black bmw which was driven by shug knight, and in the passenger seat was tupac shakur. as they turned around, they pulled up near the passenger side of that vehicle and immediately began shooting at mr. knight and mr. shakur. following that shooting, the white cadillac fled the area southbound on cobalt, and after our officers arrive on scene, tupac was later transported to the university medical center where he's treated medically and died approximately six days later on september 13th. my homicide section handled this investigation from its onset and for a short amount of time -- within a short amount of time, what we knew was we were working a gang investigation, where our victims, our witnesses, and our suspects were all from southern california and not local to las vegas. within the first few months of the investigation, our detectives knew most of the information i just briefed you on. however, we never had the necessary evidence bring this case forward and present it for criminal charges. as time went on, this case had been reviewed multiple times by investigators assigned to my section, but it wasn't until 2018 that this case was reinvigorated as additional information came to light related to this homicide. specifically dwayne davis' own admissions to his involvement in this homicide investigation that he provided to numerous media outlets. in our section, we knew at this time that this was likely our last time to take a run at this case to successfully solve this case and bring forth a criminal charge. it was at that time that this case was assigned to cliff mog, a detective in my homicide section, and over the last five years, my section worked closely hand in hand with the clark county district attorney's office and followed a systemic investigative plan over the last five years. we've conducted countless interviews and corroborated numerous facts that were not only consistent with the crime scene but also corroborated and were consistent with the sequence of events that night. this ultimately led to us procuring a search warrant, which was executed at mr. davis' residence in henderson, nevada. follow, the execution that search warrant, in close coordination with the district attorneys after office, this case was presented to the grand jury, which ultimately led to davis being indicted on charges of murder. before i hand it off to the district attorney's office, i would be remiss if i didn't thank detective mog and all the other detectives that were not only assigned this case or reviewed this case, but detectives from other agencies that assisted us in this investigation. they know who they are, and thank you very much for all the assistance you provided. it did not go unnoticed. lastly, one of the most important things in my opinion is we need to make this be a reminder that the charge of murder does not have a statute of limitations. this agency has been, is invested in solving our cold case homicides so that we can bring closure to those families and justice for those victims of homicide. and with that, i will turn it over to the clark county district attorney, steve wilson. >> thank you, lieutenant, johansson. i appreciate it. good afternoon. i am the las vegas clark county district attorney steve wolfson. it has often been said justice delay second down justice denied. it's a term we hear often and for many, many years when talking about our legal system. but not in this case. today justice will be served in the murder of tupac shakur. i'd like to acknowledge the relentless work of the many las vegas metropolitan police department homicide detectives. we've mentioned detective cliff mog many times, and we can't mention his name enough. he is the detective along with his colleagues that brought this case here today to you. a clark county grand jury indicted dwayne "keefe" davis with one count of open murder with use of a deadly weapon with a gang enhancement. davis will appear in court for the next few days for a hearing to determine his custody status and to set a jury trial date. this jury has been examining the case for months and -- i've assigned two top prosecutors, mark degiacomo and danu bill al to prosecute this case. i know a lot of people have been waiting for this day. tupac shakur is a music legend, and for a long time, this community and worldwide have been wanting justice for tupac. today we are taking that first step. tupac was actually quoted as saying, death is not the greatest loss in life. the greatest loss is what dies inside while still alive. never surrender. well, we didn't surrender this can to the great work of the las vegas metropolitan police department under the leadership of sheriff kevin mcmayhill. i am proud to announce the return of this document. this is the indictment we have been waiting almost three decades for. it spells out the facts and circumstances and what justifies a clark county grand jury in returning an indictment. justice will be served. thank you. >> thank you, steve. i'd just like to say that the las vegas metropolitan police department year over year solves 90% of the had hads that occur in our section. you won't find that anywhere else in the united states. for those family members who have lost somebody that we haven't solved their case, i want you to know, just like in this case, we're not going to give up. as we begin, we're going the take a couple questions. i want to you remember in your questioning that this investigation, subsequent arrest, and now indictment is only the beginning of the process, and we are committed and invested in ensuring a successful prosecution as we move forward. so with that, we'll take any questions you might have. kim. [ inaudible question ] >> the family has reach out to my office. i imagine also to metro. we have been in communication with them. we understand that they are welcoming this news. they are pleased with this news. and they are certainly aware of the return of this indictment. [ inaudible question ] >> i don't think they'll be at the arraignment. that's a relatively short hearing. but i know that they'll be involved. i know that they'll want to be apprised of what's going on on a frequent basis. [ inaudible question ] >> jason, want to answer that? we're not going to talk about any particular statements, but maybe he can address that quote. >> what i'll say is there's lots of stuff that's going to come out when it comes to trial, but he provides his own series of statements that are very consistent with the evidence we have on the scene that we've obtained through our investigation. >> can you identify anything -- [ inaudible ] service with a warrant in july that you didn't know before? >> that's a good question. what i'll say about the search warrant that we did in july, we obtained information, evidence during the execution of that search warrant, that corroborated information obtained through our investigation, and i'll leave it at that until we go to trial. go ahead. >> i know that this was obviously a big move. is there anyone else being looked at at this point? i know a lot of people have passed away. but is there anyone else being looked at as part of this investigation? >> as i stated earlier, in this case, the only living suspect related to this investigation is dwayne davis. all other three suspects are deceased. >> vanessa. >> thank you. vanessa murphy, channel 8. steve, can you talk about the murder charge, if he's not the one believed to have pulled the trigger. >> yes, well, under nevada law -- and this is the law in most states in this country. you can be charged with a crime whether you're directly involved or whether you're an aider or abetter. we have an aiding and abetting statute, which provides that if you help somebody commit a crime, you can be equally as guilty. the best example is two guys that agree to commit a bank robbery, and one of them goes into a bank away gun and actually commits the robbery, and the other guy is the getaway driver. never went in the bank. but he assisted the guy that went in the bank, so he's equally guilty. that is one of the theories in this case as well. >> last question. >> do investigators believe that davis was the only person behind the plan to kill tupac? or was he one of multiple people that came up with this plan? i characterize that is dwayne davis was the shock collar for this group of individuals that committed this crime. and he orchestrated the plan that was carried out to commit this crime. >> can you say how -- [ inaudible ] >> we know that he attained it from a close associate. a lot of the actual details of who specifically, all that will come out at trial. he obtained it from a close associate of his. >> thank you for coming. >> thank you. >> okay, we can file this in news we didn't see coming today. again, that was a press conference by law enforcement authorities down there in las vegas talking about an arrest in the murder of tupac shakur 27 years ago, september, 1996. they've arrested a man named dwayne keith davis, and they are not saying that he pulled the trigger, but they are charging him with murder saying they have statutes in las vegas meaning if you are charged with it, calling him the, quote, shock collar here, saying he was behind the killing of tupac shakur. that's what they're alleging. they're also alleging it started because tupac and suge knight beat up a guy named orlando anderson in a hotel, caught on surveillance tape. they showed it there. and that's what led to tupac being gunned down in a bmw on the vegas strip by a bunch of guys in a cadillac that got away. again, 27 years ago this happened, and an arrest right now. joining us is nbc news senior law enforcement analyst cedric alexander. did i get that right? was that the summation of what the police were saying there? >> i think that pretty much -- i think that's pretty much it. you know, this has been a long time. this country and the world has been waiting for an arrest of those who were involved in the death of tupac shakur. he certainly was a legend in the music community, and his music still lives to this day. but i think what's clear here is this case continues to unfold and they move toward prosecution now that they have an indictment is that las vegas metropolitan police department never did give up on this investigation. and i think we really have to tip our hats to them for the fantastic job that they did. we heard it from the sheriff, and those from one generation of police officers to the next, probably many of those detectives that were involved probably were not even in that department during that time. but one thing that department clearly made a commitment to do, and that was to pursue this case along with clark county d.a.'s office, and my hat is off to both of those agencies who did really a fantastic job, and the community that came forth over the years, too, and provided whatever help and assistance that they could. >> let me ask but the timeframe here. in 2019, there was a tell-all memoir that davis published called "compton street legend." he says he was in the cadillac when gunfire erupted during the 1996 drive-by shooting. he also says that he told federal and local authorities that he was in the car in 2010. 2010 he said he was in the car. why are -- why is he only being arrested in 2023? >> well, there may be a lot of information in which the d.a. office and the police department may be aware of that we don't know. we don't know who made those statements at that time, what the credibility of those statements may have been. they had to operate on what they were given back in 2010. but here's what's important is that as this case continued to unfold, the evidence became more and more concrete, and they were able to make a case and get an indictment, and that's where we are today. >> again, an indictment in the killing of tupac shakur. they're alleging that dwayne keith davis was behind it. they're not alleging he pulled the trigger, but they are charging him with murder, nonetheless, calling him the shock collar of the group. thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it, cedric. and breaking news out of fulton county, georgia, where the first co-defendant in donald trump's election interference case has now flipped it appears. joining us is msnbc legal analyst lisa ruben. what is going on in fulton county? >> fulton county, we've had our first news of a plea deal in that case. you know, there are 19 defendants in that case, two of them, ken chesebro and sidney powell, former attorneys to tropical storm president trump barreling toward a trial. scott hall, one of the co-defendants, charged particularly in the coffey county voting data theft scheme has now reached a plea deal with prosecutors. >> scott hall is who we're seeing speaking? i believe. >> i believe that is who we're seeing. the reason we're seeing him on that screen, by the way, is that in fulton county superior court we have a zoom, there is a zoom system for pleas and other hearings. so if we are seeing him now, it's because we're able to take that zoom live. >> what can we assume is going on behind the scenes for where this plea deal came together? >> i think that scott hall was under pressure to plead given the complete overlap in charges between him and sidney powell. he is going to be hopefully a witness for the prosecution. but he has lots to say about that scheme. in fact, he is the person who was picked up from the airport for the purpose of assisting with the unlawful breach of election equipment, according to my very dog-eared copy of the indictment here. but the charges between he and powell are entirely overlapping, and so if he has reached a cooperation agreement with prosecutors, he will be extraordinarily valuable at that october 23rd trial. >> absolutely they believe he's valuable or wouldn't make this deal. it helps them simplify this case. 19 defendants now down to 18. >> that's correct. and moreover, sidney powell's lawyers have said that the evidence so far doesn't show any culpability on her behalf. that other people were involved in directing sullivan strickler, the forensics firm that she allegedly hired, to commit this voting data breach. if scott hall has firsthand knowledge of things that we can't see in documents, you can understand why prosecutors were very eager to cut a deal with him. >> let me ask you about new york. on monday we have the trial for the new york civil case against donald trump. the other day we had a summary judgment on it where the judge said that donald trump did commit fraud. he called the empire donald trump has built with properties built on lies, overjanuary plating the value of his -- over inflating the value of his properties including trump tower. it is going to trial even though there was a summary judgment. explain in layplan's terms how those can happen at the same time. >> there are multiple counts that the new york attorney general brought. first and most important is the one that settled. blue from are other counts that turn on things that are not easy to determine without a trial such as intent and the materiality of misstatements that donald trump made in his statements of financial condition. that's the reason we're still having a trial. and of course the biggest issue that will be settled at trial is how much in profits did donald trump and his co-defendants gain through those material misstatements, and what can a judge force them to turn over to the people of new york state. >> letitia james wants $250 million -- >> at least $250 million, katy. >> is that going to happen, or is that way overboard? >> i think it depends on what she can show at trial donald trump and his organization obtained fraudulently through those misrepresentations. essentially donald trump threw these over valuations, got loans and insurance policies on terms not for anyone else. if they can show he gained $250 million through that that's a case worth making. >> in trying to establish the facts of the case, we've been jumping around a lot, i've buried the lead which is that letitia james wants donald trump to testify. could we see that on monday? >> i don't think we could see that on monday. however, her list of witnesses is far shorter than donald trump's list of 127 witnesses. do i think she's likely to call him? i actually do because when he was deposed for the second time, he didn't take the fifth. he gave extensive testimony and tried to explain at a number of different places why it was that the values were either legitimate or why it was that his disclaimers -- >> didn't he say sometimes that's the way he felt on that day? >> that is correct. he also said that a value he may have assigned to a property in 2014 was legit even if it didn't have that value that day but came to fruition a number of years later. >> why would he not plead the fifth? >> that is a very good question that many lawyers will struggle to answer. >> even if he did answer questionselor to ohly in the -- questions thoroughly in the deposition, could he take the stand and plead the fifth? >> he could, but that would be a way of essentially -- impeaching the invocation of the fifth. you were willing to answer these questions at another time, you're not willing now. >> okay. monday's going to be a very interesting day. we may not see donald trump on monday, but we could definitely see him take the stand which will be fascinating. >> we can see him attend the first day of his trial. >> fascinating indeed. monday's going to be a big day. also the government will probably be shut down, as well. speaking of that, i will be back here tomorrow at 11:00 p.m. i got the lucky straw, 11:00 p.m. tomorrow as the government hopefully doesn't shut down, but it looks like it's going to. so please join us then. in the meantime, that is going to do it for me. i'm going to go home and get some sleep. 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