>> he said this patient in question had received two shots of the moderna vaccine but no booster as of yet, and is experiencing mild symptoms. fauci offered this to those who might be holding off on betting that booster shot. >> people say, well, if we are going to have a booster-specific vaccine, should we wait? if you are eligible, namely 6 months with a double mrna dose or two months with the j&j, get boosted now. we may not need a variant-specific boost. the mistake people make is to say, let me wait and see if we get one. if you are eligible for boosting, get boosted right now. >> tomorrow the president lays out his strategy to try to control and contain this variant as we head into the colder months. nbc news among those reporting he is going to extend the fed mask mandate for public transportation into mid-march. there is much more on the potential impact of this new variant just ahead in our hour. also tonight, the january 6th committee is keeping the pressure on witnesses who refuse to comply with their subpoenas. a few hours ago they voted unanimously to refer former trump doj official jeffery clark for criminal contempt of congress, but they are giving clark one last chance to testify. >> around 8:00 last evening mr. clark's attorney sent a letter to the committee. another in a long series of long letters stating that mr. clark now intends to assert his fifth amendment privilege. even though mr. clark previously had the opportunity to make these claims on the record, the select committee will provide him another chance to do so. >> we will not finalize this contempt process if mr. clark genuinely cures his failure to comply with the subpoena this saturday. >> meanwhile, former trump chief of staff mark meadows revealed how he plans to handle his upcoming appearance before that same committee. meadows has been resisting, asserting he was following trump's claim of executive privilege. well, yesterday the panel said he started complying with a subpoena for records and planned to testify, but comments from meadows today raise questions about just how much cooperating he plans to do. >> the president has made it very clear that he is claiming executive privilege and not because he has anything to hide. i'm going to be honoring his executive privilege. it's not something that i have the ability to weigh, even with my interview that potentially is coming up with the house. we'll be talking about non-privileged information. >> we'll see how that goes over, even as he claims to honor his old boss, the guardian in great britain was first to report this revelation from meadows forthcoming book. he reveals trump first tested positive for covid three days before that september 26, 2020 debate against then-candidate joe biden. "new york times" and nbc news have confirmed that initial positive test. nothing was going to stop trump from going out there. he adds, trump received a negative result from a separate test just before the debate, but the public didn't learn about trump's covid case until the early hours of october 2nd. today the former president in a statement stayed on brand saying, quote, the story of me having covid prior to or during the first debate is fake news. which, of course, doesn't answer the question of whether he had received a positive test before the debate. by the way, tonight we're just a little more than two days from a potential government shutdown. the deadline to pass a funding bill to keep things open is midnight friday into saturday morning. "washington post" reporting tonight one faction of republicans on capitol hill is trying to hold up efforts to vote on that bill over federal vaccine and testing mandates. senate majority leader schumer today urged republicans to abandon their protest. >> it's always easy to shut down, say you want to shut down the government. if everyone did that, we'd have chaos. we need to keep the government open. >> the house freedom caucus today appealed to mitch mcconnell in a letter asking that he help them out by blocking any temporary funding bill that includes federal dollars to enforce vaccine mandates. mcconnell appears to be resisting so far and said a shutdown is not an option. as all that was going on in congress, across the street in front of the supreme court building this morning protests were underway as the justices sat down to hear oral arguments on a mississippi abortion law banning abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. for two hours the justices questioned the legality of the statute and the possibility of letting it stand. >> vie nlt it seems to me doesn't have anything to do with choice. but if it really is an issue about choice, why is 15 weeks not enough time? >> it doesn't seem to me to follow that pregnancy and then parenthood are all part of the same burden. >> you think about some. most important cases, the most consequential cases in this court's history, there is a string of them where the cases overruled precedent. >> now the sponsor of this bill, the house bill, in mississippi, said we're doing it because we have new justices. will this institution survive the stench that this creates in public perception that the constitution and its reading are just political acts? i don't see how it is possible. >> most experts who were listening agreed the six conservative members of the court appear to lean towards upholding the mississippi law. should roe v. wade be overturned, abortion could be severely restricted or banned right away in at least 26 states, over half of our union. with that lets bring in our starting line on this wednesday night. peter baker, long time journalist and author, chief white house correspondent for "the new york times," sam stein, white house editor at pilot cowand barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, worked with the doj during the biden transition, a professor at her alma mater university of michigan law school who wants you to know they beat ohio state. she has a podcast sisters-in-law. good evening and welcome to you all. indeed, counselor, i'd like to begin with you. what signals did your trained ears pick up listening to oral arguments this morning? >> well, brian, i appreciate the chance for a chuckle. i think that's the last laugh for a while in light of the arguments that we heard today. i think all ears were on some of the justices who might be swing justices, maybe chief justice roberts, maybe justice kavanaugh, maybe justice barrett, but all of them signaled very strongly they would be willing to uphold this mississippi abortion ban after 15 weeks, which of course is much more stringent than we had under roe v. wade, which is the previability standard of 22 to 24 weeks. it's not clear whether they are willing to overturn roe v. wade, but i think they can effectively do that in this two-step dance that chief justice roberts often likes to do. we are going not to overrule roe v. wade now. we are just going to uphold this mississippi law, but we are left out the standard that we have had before. so essentially it's all is fair game now for states on abortion laws. >> peter baker, let's talk about where this may be going with the help of something said on this network earlier by frequent guest of ours, nyu law professor melissa murray who clerked for sotomayor at the federal level. >> this has been a long game of the conservative legal movement for some years. we have never allowed fundamental rights to be subject to the whims of the democratic process, to be subject to the whims. majority. if you think that gay marriage is not on deck after a day like this, then you are, frankly, completely delusional because, yes, they are coming for that, too. >> so, peter, if you would, put today's oral arguments and the comments barbara just added to the conversation in the context of the long game, i.e., mitch mcconnell's life's work. >> yeah, no, that's exactly right. this is the culmination of a half century campaign on the part of conservatives to get to the point where they could overturn roe v. wade or at least least evoice late a lot of the tenants of it. a big question seems to be whether or not they actually overturn roe v. wade or simply allow the mississippi law at 15 weeks to go forward, signaling they are open to other states that want to restrict or completely aban abortions going forward. there has been a effort over years to build the court system, to put conservatives on the bench. mitch mcconnell worked in tandem with donald trump, one the two things they worked well together on was putting conservatives in district courts, circuit courts and three seats on the supreme court. mitch mcconnell was the one who held open that seat anthony scalia pass when he passed away. arguing they should wait until the election. adds a result of that, that seat went to neil gorsuch. if he ends up voting to uphold the mississippi rule or overturn roe v. wade that's a startling different result you would have with merrick garland who was president obama's choice for the seat. 6-3 case, may not make that big of a difference, but a culmination of a half century of work on the path of conservatives so overturn or at least, you know, take a out of a lot of the fundamental tenets of roe v. wade. >> sam stein, because so many of these nine justices are at times so nakedly political, i feel less gross asking a nakedly political question, and that is this. we heard the phrase over and over today, a lot on social media, elections have consequences. will the democrats be able to convert this? >> that's a great question. the conventional wisdom would say yes, the country, if you look at the opinion polls still by and large supports a right to choos about whether you want to have an abortion. but you can't just judge things in that type of vacuum. what we have seen time and again is that conservatives get incredibly more passionate about these types of things than their liberal counterparts. we have also seen a change in the voting dynamics in this country where what was sort of traditionally suburban women who were republican voters have already drifted to the democratic party. those are the types of people that would have had a backlash against republican politicians in a court if they overturned roe v. wade. already they are in the democratic camp. i am not totally convinced that this will rebound to the democrats' favor. we have to see both whether this is eclipsed but other issues like covid and the economy heading into midterms. >> i never could have droemd a switch in topic to one-six would be a preferable subject. here we are. let's talk about mr. clark. they voted to hold him in contempt tonight while also agreeing to bring him back and hear him out, i believe on saturday, at a session where he may take the fifth. opinions seem split on whether this shows weakness or wisdom. where do you come down? >> i think it's wisdom, brian. but i think they have to proceed cautiously. a fifth amendment privilege is different than the executive privilege that we saw with steve bannon. but there are certainly indications that jeffery clark is kind of playing games here. as the chairman pointed out, jeffery clark did not assert the fifth amendment right when he testified before the committee at least appeared for a deposition on november 5th. and so if this isn't a stall tactic, i think this vote keeps the heat on him, forces him to show up and go through question by question the issues on what he going to plead the fifth amendment. >> and, peter, back to your beat. hard as it is to believe, life in this white house and for this administration has changed once again in the past 24 to 48 hours with the arrival of this variant forcing the administration to scramble. it throws certainly a wrench in the national works when this nation has zero appetite for new restrictions. >> yeah, i think that's exactly right. obviously, president biden came to office on the promise of getting a hold of this pandemic and getting us past it. now, whether this omicron variant is actually going to be as serious as some people fear, we don't know. it's early. there is not enough data to tell us whether the current vaccines will manage to handle it or whether or not this is something that is going to require a whole new set of restrictions or response. but if it does, it puts the white house back in the position where it was months ago trying to get a hold of delta variant, make sure that people can, you know, be healthy, get vaccinated, find ways of avoiding the changing nature of this pandemic while not doing anything to hold back the economy that's just begun to really take off again after so many, you know, starts and fits. and i think that this is not what they want heading into the holiday season. already expecting a winter surge of regular covid. omicron adds one more, you know, uncertain factor on top of that. >> indeed. and, sam, speaking of uncertainty, the deadline for our government shutdown is roughly two days away. as a mcconnell watcher, sam, what's your bet on mcconnell? does he do the right thing, or does he join the gop nihilism caucus? >> i think they'll have a very small shutdown, but to suspect that joe biden would sign a government funding bill and restrict his ability to fight the pandemic is ludicrous, frankly. it won't happen. so this seems to me so be sort of traditional congressional theatrics. throw a stunt saying, look, we are going to stop all funding for the government unless you end these private mandates for vaccination. it's hard to imagine that mcconnell can wrangle ten republicans to eventually say, yes, we'll allow this bill to go through. >> so, sam, back up just one second. our closing seconds of this segment. you feel we will go to the brink and, indeed, go officially to a shutdown period before pressure brings both sides together? >> yeah, but i -- it's possible they cut a deal before then. it's not likely. but i would not be surprised, honestly, if we had a day or two of a government shutdown after everyone comes to their senses. >> great thanks to our starting line. peter, barbara, sam, thank you very much. i wish we had happier material to pass along. coming up, new tougher travel restrictions hours away. we'll ask one of our leading physicians what more should be done to protect against covid's newest variant. and later, the man who wants so badly to be speaker, struggling to keep his half of the house in order while the other party works to avoid a government shutdown. our political experts will zero in on the republican dilemmas. all of it as "the 11th hour" is just getting underway on this wednesday night as a tree driven in from california lights up capitol hill. tol hill >> man: what's my safelite story? 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>> brian, i should start by saying we will probably hear about a few more cases over the next few days. our sequencing has gotten better compared to a year ago. even if the tier is probably not at high rates yet. what do we know? i think the biggest concern is how many mutations this variant has and that combined with some really concerning epidemiology from south africa, one of the countries that sort of really sounded the alarm where the cases have been going up, and also seeing a 65% increase in hospitalizations in the last week or so. now, the question here is that are they just seeing that because south africa is undervaccinated, 30% of the population is vaccinated. but there is concern. looking at even in the data over the last couple of days that the cases are going up that we may be looking at more transmissible variant. however, until we see those variants sort of do the same thing in other communities, you know, other settings, other vaccination rates in other countries, we won't know about the true transmisibility. over the next few weeks i think what we are going to learn, you will learn a bit more about the laboratory results that tell us a bit more about the effectiveness of these vaccines and i think most people in my field feel based on the mutations you may see decrease in infections. what you are likely to see -- or increase in -- decrease in protection against infections but that protection is probably going to be linked to how many doses of vaccine you had. if you had three doses, your booster, most likely protected. having said that, most people agree there might be very good protection against severe disease in that setting >> i want to see if you agree or disagree with the following. these are the comments this morning on cnbc by former fda commissioner scott gottlieb, who, full disclosure, is a member of the board of pfizer. >> there is a presumption that the growth in cases in south africa is comprised of this omicron variant. the reality is they were having a mini delta surge before this emerge the. we don't know whether or not the increased number of cases that they are seeing is this new variant. think of all the variants that have emerged and the vaccine still demonstrated efficacy. there is no reason to believe we will lose them against this one. >> doc, do you agree with the central point he is making there? >> yes, which is that we still don't know a lot about the epidemiology, right? a lot of this is observation and gathering up that data and really it is seeing what omicron variant does in other setting. another example is there have been other variants, like the beta variant that hasn't taken hold, we were really concerned, a lot of mousse that could have decreased the effectiveness of the vaccines. but it's something to keep watching. i take that as a lesson to see, look, there are multiple states in our union that have less than 50% vaccination. you know, alabama, virginia, mississippi. when we are looking at vulnerability and the potentially in the face of a more transmissible, you know, variant, the best thing that we can do, if we are not panic and getting ready, right, the best thing is to make sure we get the rates up and continue that vigilance going into this surge. >> does the variant mean we have to change our behavior or return to our prescribed behavior? i am asking in light of what i'm assuming is your support for an extended mask mandate on public transportation in this country into the spring, into next march. is this a way of not putting something new on us, buttics tending, getting us back into what we know to be best behavior? >> i think we have to realize that, you know, the end of the pandemic is not around the corner, you know. but we always knew this. we knew that before omicron. we knew that we were going into a winter surge and even from that perspective, i think, you know, in many parts of the this country we are seeing the winter surge and that's the full-on holiday travel case numbers started to go up again. and so from that perspective, i think requiring masks -- and i would encourage people to wear good quality masks as they are traveling, testing, vaccinating, getting boosted before holiday travel is a way to ensure that those protections are in place. i think that what i would say, let's not panic. let's be concerned and let's go back to what protects us, doubling down on those things that keep us safe from getting infected and passing that infection to others. >> dr. badilla, thanks for taking our questions. another break for us. coming up, whatever the justices say about choice, about abortion, the political fallout will be immediate and immense in a country where choice has been the law of the land for half a century. ntury. ♪♪ the only thing a disaster can't destroy is hope. ♪♪ donate now at redcross.org i may have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. or psoriatic arthritis. ♪♪ but we are so much more. we're team players and artists. designers and do-it-yourselfers. parents and friends. if joint pain is getting in the way of who you are, it's time to talk to your doctor about enbrel. enbrel helps relieve joint pain, and helps stop permanent joint damage. plus enbrel helps skin get clearer in psoriatic arthritis. ask your doctor about enbrel, so you can get back to your true self. play ball! enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, nervous system and blood disorders and allergic reactions have occurred. tell your doctor if you've been someplace where fungal infections are common. or if you're prone to infections, have cuts or sores, have had hepatitis b, have been treated for heart failure, or if you have persistent fever, bruising, bleeding or paleness. don't start enbrel if you have an infection like the flu. visit enbrel.com to see how your joint damage could progress. enbrel. eligible patients may pay as little as $5 per month. i was a pro-choice senator that won statewide elections time after time in this state. they are not going to accept in vitro fertilization is illegal in missouri or the morning after pill or exceptions for rape and incest which they didn't put in the missouri law. that going to be galvanizing to democrats in this country. >> our next guest writes this. is roe is reversed the political cold war over abortion will flair immediately into a roaring blaze as if our politics needed more heat o with us this evening two of our friend, the aforementioned eugene robinson for "the washington post" and mike murphy, republican strategist, co-director for the future center at the university of california and co-host of the hacks on tap podcast. eugene, i know you make a point this week that roe v. wade has been unifying for this country, but then there are the politics of it. i want to read you tonight. never forget that mitch mcconnell blocked merrick garland eight months before election then confirmed amy coney barrett eight days before an election when 65 million people had already voted, so she could take away reproductive rights and voting rights from millions of americans. and tonight on fox news we got a glimpse. eugene, from the other side, saying the quiet part outloud on the air that this is the court, in effect, they have paid for. >> if we have six republican appointees on this court, after all the money that has been raised, "the federalist" society, all these big fat cat dinners -- sorry, i'm pissed about this. if this court with six justices cannot do the constitutional thing here, then i think it's time to do what robert bork said, which is to circumscribe the jurisdiction of this court and they want to blow it up, they'll then -- that's the way to change things finally. >> so you don't hear many people quoting bob bork any more. i hope that finds people wide awake in the audience. will this perhaps be unifying for democrats? >> it may well be, brian. i'll tell you, it's a cliche by now, but republicans are the dog that caught the car, right? and so chase the car, caught the car, now what are they going to do? because the majority of the people of -- people in this country believe that roe v. wade should be upheld, that there should be a right to abortion. if they disagree, perhaps, within that group, within that majority on how, you know, viability versus trimesters versus, you know, what's the line, where you draw the line, that's all up in the air. but the fundamental right, people think should be there, and should be recognized, and i fear that in the, you know, later this year, or next year, it's not going to be recognized. sounds to me like there were five justices ready to overturn roe v. wade. and this is not about originalism or textualism or anything. it's about abortion an issue on which is not possible to compromise if you believe abortion is murder. and most americans don't go that far. and so i think this could be -- i certainly think it's going to be a huge issue and it's going to perhaps rebound politically again. >> so, mike, i'll say again, because members of this court are so nakedly political, i feel less bad asking a nakedly political question of you. that is, if this court tosses roe, what about the midterms? >> well, you're right. it's going to be a chainsaw fight. this is an issue where there is never subtlety. frankly, there is never much of a discussion of constitutional law. roe was a rather political decision to try to please the majority of people in the country by creating the trimester system and trying to land a very thorny constitutional question, which has turned into a really hot political war. so the midterms, it cuts in different ways. the more people in the country are pro-choice than pro-life. roe very symbolic, a flag in all that. but in a lot of places there is a pro-life conservative, more rural working majority, places like mississippi. so you have to get down to the fulcrum voters. it is good for the democrats. one, it will raise a lot of money and people get intense on the pro-choice side, they will be furious. on the pro-life side, they will see it as a human rights victory. i am watching the suburbs that will have a lot to do with who wins control of the u.s. senate. in rural pennsylvania overturning roe will play. in the suburban counties around pennsylvania, around philadelphia and over on the west, you know, it's a much tougher issue. what the democrats need to do is get the suburbs back. they had them in 2018. they had them against donald trump. they lost them in the virginia governor's race. so they are in play, and net-net this will help the democrats there, but the election will be about other things, including the problems president biden's had in his approval ratings which will help the republicans in the suburbs. so, you know, it's another log on the inferno, but it's a very big log and in the democratic base con stitch wensies it could be a political we will for the dems if the court overturns. you might have the middle thing where they move viability 21 weeks to 15. to won't have the same shock impact as overturning roe v. wade. >> luckily for us, these two smart gentlemen are staying with us. when we continue our conversation, at least some republican lawmakers are attacking each other. others are plotting a government shutdown. it's a day in the life of the republican party. ican party [sfx: radio being tuned] welcome to allstate. ♪ [band plays] ♪ a place where everyone lives life well-protected. ♪♪ and even when things go a bit wrong, we've got your back. here, things work the way you wish they would. and better protection costs a whole lot less. you're in good hands with allstate. click or call for a lower auto rate today. i don't think kevin mccarthy has the votes. what we are seeing is the flish flopping around before he dies. it's it that scenario. kevin mccarthy is only shot here and calculating enough to try to do this. he is hoping for a big enough republican win next november in the congressional midterms that he does not have to worry about the marjorie taylor greenes, the matt gaetz and others who votes he won't have for the speaker ship. >> indeed, the minority leader is trying to quiet trouble from fringe members of his party. we will go back to that word in a minute as democrats talk of punishing another one of them. a private meeting mccarthy held today with his caucus. he said he would not give oxygen to those he suggested earp seeking attention, thanked the majority of members who haven't made themselves the spotlight of head line and stressed that the house is a serious deliberative body, not a junior high. mccarthy has yet to publicly condemn any of the members aside from liz cheney, who has expressed an interest in saving democracy. thankfully, still us with, two gentlemen interested in the same goal, eugene robinson and mike murphy. mike, i picture kevin mccarthy getting up in the morning pitting on the rather bright blue suit he favors, looking in the mirror and saying, good morning, mr. speaker. is there, in your view, a chance he misses this brass ring? >> there is a decent shot. if they don't win the majority, which is unlikely, i think he is toast. he will probably have opposition. but i think he is a very good concierge for the little things that members care about. and if he delivers a majority, i think he is in good but not certain shape. but he is weak. even his enemies know that. looking at the kitten swipes, he is doing to keep the crazies in line, in my day we get out the ball-peen hammer and handle it, he is terrified of donald trump. that weakness puts him in some jeopardy. >> thank you for kitten swipes. we have been accused of overrepresentation for dogs on this broadcast, but that's some great imagery to last us the rest of the evening. eugene, marjorie taylor greene says she is not the fringe, she is the base. should we believe her? >> well, she is a big chunk of the base. i mean, she is a big component of the republican base, the trumpist component of the republican base that people who love donald trump will follow him anywhere and will tolerate and even encourage her sort of insane antics. so she is going to keep it up. i mean, that's to her this is what being in congress is about. drawing attention to herself. it's not about legislation, it's not about deal with business of the people. i mean, if this were a junior high, she and her fellow crazies would all be in detention, if not suspended or expelled. but, unfortunately, it's less than a junior high. it's the house republican caucus. and that's kind of where we are. >> and, mike, take 60 seconds, remind the viewers how congress works. if you don't have -- a lot of these so-called fringe members we talk about aren't legislators, and if you don't have committees, that's really tough to bring bacon home to your district where it helps to be able to brag on what you have done when you want their votes again. >> yeah, essentially, you're useless. you spend your time howling trying to get social media attention and raising money, and like taylor green, if you are from a safe district, you can exist that way. but your district is the big loser because you basically got a nothing burger, a member of congress with no influence doing political stunts. >> gentlemen, i can't thank you enough. we have anvils and kitten swipes, enough to get us through the rest of the broadcast. our thanks to two friends of this broadcast for good reason. eugene robinson and mike murphy. coming up for us after our next break, all of the stuff that's headed to us that is currently on a ship or, better yet, look at that picture, on a rail. on a train. our supply chain update follows. . 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>> exactly. >> reporter: luke gave us a tour to explain. are we looking at more cargo containers in this parking lot than normal? >> current state, a little bit above average right now. you want to turn a parking spot like a table at a restaurant. >> reporter: are they being turned as fast as possible these days? >> no. >> reporter: union pacific's kristen south told us there aren't new truck drivers or space in warehouses to get cargo out fast enough. >> 50% of international argo will hit chicago at some point. >> reporter: that's not always how things happened here. this was a manufacturing hub blowing blowing thousands of workers. now what is produced there, ends up here. it wouldn't exist if it weren't for the contraction of domestic manufacturing? >> right. >> reporter: 40% of goods traveling long distance move by rail. they expect demand to grow by 30% by 2040, which is why union pacific is banking on autonomous technology, including this 75-foot-tall frame. >> this is going to be 100% humidless operation. >> reporter: you see how tight i am grabbing the railings right now. the trains come in below here? >> correct. it's going to continuously move around all day long. >> reporter: and the only humans to work on the crane won't be anywhere near it. you are telling me that the potential solution to the supply chain crisis could look a lot like playing a video game? >> maybe not the full solution, but a lot more fish. >> reporter: but when the factories went oversees the changes have their own consequences. eric has been hauling cargo as a truck driver since his grandfather taught hip the trade. >> you want to hit -- you lost your job. >> reporter: inside his locomotive, tom moses has faith everything will work out. what do you want the american people to know that are watching thinking about their christmas presents showing up on time? >> i would tell them they are on their way, as soon as possible. have no fret. >> reporter: tom's on his way. >> we are on our way. >> reporter: jacob soboroff, nbc news, joliet, illinois. >> a lot of good people are working hard to make it happen. coming up, from the rails, we go to the floor of the u.s. senate and an effort to hold an entire political party responsible for double-talk and a growing death toll. a growing death toll we were alone when my husband had the heart attack. he's the most important thing in my life. i'm so lucky to get him back. your heart isn't just yours. protect it with bayer aspirin. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. last thing before we go tonight. senator chris murphy became a leading voice against gun violence after the sandy hook massacre took place in connecticut. so after an emotionally disturbed 15-year-old kid walked in his high school and blew away several students yesterday, that very same democratic senator did a slow burn. what set him off was stuff like this tweet from the gop. quote, life is precious. republicans will always stand for the sanctity of life. that mirrors what republican senators have been saying in the run up to today's abortion argument, but murphy wasn't having it. the more he thought about that sanctity of life argument, the angrier he got. he left work at the capitol last night and found himself turning his car around, drove back and took to the senate floor. >> i listened to my republican colleagues come down here one after another today and talk about the sanctity of life. at the very moment that moms and dads in michigan were being told that their kids weren't coming home because they were shot at school due to a country that has accepted gun violence, due to republicans' fealty to the gun lobby. do not lecture us about the sanctity, the importance of life when 100 people every single day are losing their lives to guns, when kids go to school fearful they won't return mombasa classmate will turn a gun on them, whether it is in our control whether this happens. you care about life? then get these dangerous military-style weapons off the streets, out of our schools. you care about life? make sure that criminals don't get guns by making sure that everybody goes through a background check in this country. this only happens in the united states of america. there is no other nation in the high income world in which kids worry about being shot when they go to school. it happens here in america because we choose to let it happen. we are not unlucky. this is purposeful. this is a choice made by the united states senate to sit on our hands and do nothing while kids die. it doesn't even involve any political risk. the changes we're talking about in order to make our schools safe places, they are supported by the vast majority of americans, republicans and democrats. and yet the gun lobby and the gun industry is more important. to half of the members of the senate than is the safety of our kids. and that is unpuriating. >> senator murphy of connecticut to take us off the air tonight. that is our broadcast with our thanks for being with us. on behalf of our colleagues at the networks of nbc news. good night. about the behavior of the u.s. government. one of just the oddest, strangest, we are just sticks with you. kind of thing that i have ever had to cover in the news. it was a trump administration story about this man, who will likely not be recognized by site. his name is scott loyd, not

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