blue democratic infighting, the house just reconvened an actual vote is underway. we know you're not used to seeing this, we'll explain it all when we go to our hill correspondent in just moments. the president's been pressuring democrats all day to pass this agenda. not long ago he released a statement that read, in part, quote, i'm urging all members to vote for both the rule for consideration, of the build back better act, and final passage of the bipartisan infrastructure bill tonight. i am confident that during the week of november 15, the house will pass the the build back better act. we of course, they can't do it any sooner because of course both the house and senate are off next week. the white house says the president, who canceled his trip to delaware this weekend, is in the residence portion of the white house with his vice president, his policy team, his legislative team, staying in touch with house leadership and members. earlier tonight, democratic congressman marco cannon of wisconsin summed up the chaotic day in his own colorful way. >> will, the whole they was a cluster bleep we. on that, i was just up here when we we are up to hear a little while ago. i thought everyone was working in a particular way we. >> it's much better in the unbelievable xin, we're also following important events fall in the house committee, following the january 6th investigation, former trump doj official jeffrey clark did shot first planned of position before the committee tonight. clark pitt played a role in overturning the 2020 election, but politico said he refused to answer some sensitive question, instead he gave a letter from his lawyer giving his refusal to testify, and then citing executive privilege. committee chairman bennie thompson told politico that his refusal to testify could lead to a referral to doj for contempt of congress saying quote, that's on the table. earlier tonight, committee member and democratic congresswoman stephanie murphy of florida, was asked about mr. clarkson. we >> are so deeply disappointed of someone who so recently upheld in office to the constitution tried to obstruct justice, and refused to provide information. so, he will have a short amount of time before we take our next step, but we don't have a ton of patience, and we are willing to use contempt. >> all of today's developments on capitol hill are managing to overshadow surprisingly good economic news for this administration. this morning the labor department said there were 553,000 -- 531,000 jobs created in october, that's why the word from the labor department said blind class predictions of -- to 4.6%. earlier today, the president said the strong numbers prove his administration's policies are working. >> where the fastest growing economy, and one creating jobs at a faster pace than ever. yes, there's a lot more to be done. we still have to tackle the cost american families are facing. but this recovery is faster, stronger, there are, and wider than anyone could've predicted. that's what the numbers say. >> it was also more good news today in the fight against the pandemic. pfizer said its new pill to treat covid-19 has been found to be highly effective in clinical trials. the company says the antiviral pill when combined with a low dose of an hiv drug can reduce hospitalizations or death by about 89% among high-risk people. remember, this is not a prevention, it's not a vaccine, it's a treatment for when you get covid. and there is this prediction today from the former fda kim's center, scott gottlieb, who also sits on pfizer's board. he says he suspects the pandemic could be over in just a matter of months. >> i think the bottom line is the end of the pandemic, at least as it relates to the united states is in sight right now, given all the tools we have to combat this disease. by january 4th, this pandemic may well be over at least as it relates to the united states, and will be in more of an endemic phase of this virus. >> we'll talk about that in a bit, there's also growing pushback against the biden administration's vaccine mandates for companies with over 100 employees. this week, the administration said january four as a deadline for workers to either be fully vaccinated or to get tested weekly for the virus. about a dozen states and several companies are now filing lawsuits, of course, arguing the federal government's vaccine requirement is unconstitutional. so, we have a lot of work to do tonight, let's bring our starting line as we end the week. jonathan lin here, veteran white house reporter, and he also owes way too early in his spare time, 5 am weekdays on this network. ali vitali nbc's capitol hill correspondent, and irwin redlener founding director of columbia's disaster preparedness center. devices on public health, also a professor of pediatrics at albert einstein college of medicine. in his spine her time. bites ali vitali nation turns its lonely eyes to you. remember please, your host is a bit slow, so without any acronyms or use of the word reconciliation, i'm begging you to explain what we're witnessing going on the house tonight, when it will result in now, and wet it will give to americans. >> well bryan, i will leave our beloved gift tag line on the hill here, is because we are seeing on our screen right now is the bipartisan infrastructure bill now working its way through the house after many hours and much frustration in anticipation of this moment. what we've seen in the last half hour, really, is the convalescing of moderate and progressive fashions that had been previously been ideas on how this evening was going to go. we saw a lot of stopping and starting on the part of house leadership because they're trying to bring all these disparate parts of their caucus together, who were at odds over the best way to move forward on this. moderates have been saying that they didn't want to move forward yet on the larger social spending package, because they wanted to see a congressional budget office or, that would take weeks. instead progressives settled for a letter from the moderates saying they would vote on the larger social spending package, basically in a week, during the week of november 15th. what they're doing now in the short term, though, is making good on the progressive side that they will be there on this bipartisan infrastructure vote. when this passes the house, and it does still look like it's going to, it will go immediately to president joe biden's desk. this is a notch win for him, on one half of the infrastructure package, that he has been pushing here on capitol hill for months, and really what this shows is that in the same way that in the senate it passed with actual bipartisan support, it's doing the same thing here in the house, as i've been watching you give your introduction, i've been watching our tech chain for the capitol hill team, keeping track of the republicans that are breaking ranks with their party and coming over to the democratic side on this. i'm noticing, for example, that there are some people from newark in new jersey on this list. people like john katko, jeff van drew, names that are audience might know, because they've been at odds with their party at various moments before. when really when, you talk about this, bill speaker nancy pelosi will always tell you that she thinks it's transformative, one of the most transformative thing she's ever had the opportunity to do here on the hill, and she also says that that's even considering the work she did on pushing through obamacare all those years ago. so, when they talk about that, they're talking about a trillion dollars in spending on the bipartisan infrastructure bill that passing now, but immediately after that they're going to move forward on a procedural vote for the social spending package that comes in at around 1.7 five trillion dollars, and includes things like half a trillion dollars for combatting climate change, universal pre-k, bolstering childcare, elder care. democratic priorities that we have heard about four years on the campaign cheryl, finally translating into policy here under joe biden's administration, and the stewardship of democrats having both houses of congress. this is not the end of it, though, the house and the senate both out next week, but the bus vowing to come back on the week of the 15th and actually vote for the actual build back better act, which a larger social spending bill, that's really sending it to the senate. brian, at that point, changes are probably going to be made. there are things that are in this bill right now, including four weeks of paid leave, as well as some immigration proposals, the mace not survive the senate, either because of reconciliation rules or because of the personalities they're up on the senate side who don't actually support those policies been in this bill. joe manchin, for example, does not want to see paid leave and reconciliation. the senate can decide to just strip that out, and they very well may. it's also going to go through what we say a bird bath up here, making sure that all of the policies that are in here actually adhere to the rules of reconciliation, where you have to meet a budgetary bottom line. you have to actually impact the budget in order to stay through this process that allows democrats to go it alone. that means, once the sun is done with it it may look very different, at least for now the house can say that they moved forward on half of this, and they cannot sherwin. >> ali, well done, jonathan lemire well ali takes on oxygen and nourishment, notably we also have a physician standing by, let me ask you. what is going to be the white house's answer to the question, sure, now we get the, orange traffic cones, now we get highways and bridges in airports and infrastructure, what has changed, why couldn't we have had this months ago? now >> we'll, first of all, kudos to allie for that comprehensive analysis. one democrat who is not happy with it timing of this potentially been done tonight, terry mcauliffe who of course was pleading with the white house and democrats on capitol hill to get this done before he faced voters on tuesday, i think he needs something to run on. of course, that's not happening, and he was defeated. the white house right now, we know we talk to the white house aides, the president is in the residence on the phone all day, he was supposed to head to roe v. wade his home in delaware today, it's not clear whether he'll travel there tomorrow or not. he and the vice president are both lobbying members to try to get this across the finish line, as ali noted, it looked like with some help from the republicans still get there. the white house has long said that, the longer we go on the reconciliation part of it, it is going to change quite a bit in the senate, i don't think anyone is taking joe manchin support for granted. the white house but does believe that when they cross the finish line, here, that the messy sauces making process of this will have been worth it. this will be something that will transform governments relationship with its citizens and really help americans with their everyday lives. and, politically, give too late for terry mcauliffe, and give them something for next, year for those midterms. really bolster the presidents legacy, and to give democrats something to show voters, tangible results, unlike when president boma face the midterms when he was trying to dig the nation out of it. it was trending in the right direction by this 2010 midterms, there was a long way to go. democrats now think that they can show voters, look we're delivering for, you were making our lives better, yes it was messy, yes the presidents poll ratings took him hit, and the rebound, and they think voters will rule out or the next november. >> ironically doctor irwin redlener, i'm looking at former texas congressman as he speaks on the house floor. these are a series of short remarks during the vote. doctor, blessedly, i want to take you to a different subject on different question. how important is this new pfizer anti viral pill in the scheme of things, and what do you think, doctor gottlieb, former fda commissioner was talking about when he was talking about bringing down the curtain on the pandemic january 4th. which, by the way, would be wonderful. >> yes, so, let's start with the easier question, which is why do i make of the new overall anti viral drug which will treat covid and treated very effectively. so pfizer's version of that was approved just now, and in the uk merck has a similar drug that was approved over there. this is a big game changer, brian, as we've talked about multiple times in the past. it's a big deal, that means that people who gets sick get a test for covid that turns out positive, you will get sick leave, written prescription from your top, and you'll take it to the pharmacy and take five days and will end up in a very good chance of not getting sick it of all, and certainly not of dine with this medication. so, it's a big deal, there was one downside, reveal it or not, brian, that is we would not like to see the development of these drugs deter people from getting vaccinated. these drugs will save lives, and that's absolutely fantastic. but we don't want them to turn people away from consideration of getting the vaccine. because getting the vaccine is going to be the way that we actually, definitively, get closer to putting a stop to all of this horrible pandemic we've been dealing with. which leads me right to scott gottlieb's remarks, which were a lot of eyebrows raised in washington today, as spoke to a number of officials -- former fda official, predicted that by january 4th will be pretty much out of the woods. i don't understand how exactly came to that conclusion, some people just walking on that the nice of extreme wishful thinking, which i think is what we're dealing with. we don't like to be over by january, but there's not a slightest shred of evidence that that's going to come true, and i think as much of all of us would like to see an end to this as quickly as possible. it's a little out there to be saying that we're going to be done with this in a couple of months. doctor, thank you for that. i'll leave it tallied, back to you on the hill. no polite way to ask this. when they pass the next bill, the build back better bill, big what is left of that of joe manchin to screw up? >> he will certainly have changes. we've been talking about this for the last few weeks, there are many democrats here who feel like that will screw it up. but the larger pieces of it are still transformative in nature. the thing that i think is very important here is paid leaves, specifically, advocates here held a vigil for it last, week when they thought it was gonna be out of the bill. the next day, they then found out the not house speaker nancy pelosi managed to bring it back. i ran to joe manchin's office the at the, point told him that the changes were being made, and he said that it was very challenging for him to support. this in part because he doesn't think it abides by the rules of the reconciliation process, apologies for using that forbidden word. but he also thinks that it should be done in a bipartisan fashion as a stand-alone bill outside of the social spending package. i think we are the breakdown will come, or could, come on this build back better package is a leverage that progressives in the house had on this sort of holding the bipartisan infrastructure bill in tandem with this build back better act because they wanted to make sure that both press forward and that there was momentum behind each of them. they've now lost that leverage as soon as this bipartisan infrastructure bill passes, and what could happen in the senate is people like senator joe manchin have repeatedly said, they don't feel the need to rush this. in fact, he has said repeatedly, let's take the time to get this right. progressives, on the other hand, here in the house and the senate, would like to see movement on this quickly because you know this well bryan, political momentum can vanish. especially as you get closer to midterm years, especially after having nights like tuesday in virginia and new jersey, where some democrats start to question whether or not they actually have a mandate to do these kinds of sweeping changes. people can get policy cold feet. that's what democrats are trying to avoid by continuing to keep the pressure on here. the white house will certainly have a role to play in that. but this bill, make no mistake, even once it passes the house, is going to look very different after the senate is done with it. >> and let's keep up that graphic of the vote on the right, i am being told that a couple of democrats have gone over to vote against the bill. elon omar, aoc among them. but as i leave italy pointed, out there is republican crossover in an 8 to 5 margin which cancels out of the loss of some of the democrats for the democrats do not have a healthy cushion in the house of representatives. this but we are seeing applause on the democratic side of the aisle. we jonathan lemire, coming right off ali vitali with's the comments. i want to read you something from our mutual friend caddie kay today, white house and congressional democrats say no one will remember the process with the delays if and when these two bills pass. it's a fair point. but at some stage, a reputation for competence gets harmed by all these public missed deadlines. and to i'll ease point, jonathan, not to mention the virginia governor's race, could she be right? here >> certainly that's with the white house aides would like to. think that americans, as we've been discussing, once these measures go into effect, that they will forget just the tortured process that got us. there i'm a little less certain of that, and other democrats i talk, to close the white house and some on capitol hill, are worried about it. two but let's remember, president biden was elected, one of his key promises was to restore americans faith in the government. to show again that the u.s. government, the u.s. bureaucracy, could deliver for its citizens after the four tumultuous years of then president trump. but also as an example for the rest of the world. so much of his guide principle here is to show that democracy is the best governing on the planet. and counter rising autocracy that we see elsewhere, namely in china. and this process, here is not installed a lot of faith in the current u.s. system of government, particularly since the democratic party has both houses of congress on the white house. so i think there's some damage. here i think the months of bad headlines, we'll pays some sort of toll. and i think this week, the bad headlines, the gridlock, and the loss of virginia's would finally pushed democrats to bridge some of their divides at least temporarily to get this done. that's the negative, but the white house can take the win, you can, bad weather is, tomorrow or by monday, there's gonna be some sort of rose garden ceremony to sign the infrastructure bill and touted as a major accomplishment. and rightly. so a major accomplishment for this president. >> quickly, back we go to ali vitali, ali we can do math, but these graphs don't help. armed with my high school degree, i can write -- read that there's 223 years, 203 nays. that's the peers to be a victory. >> and it is, we saw speaker pelosi high-fiving some of her colleagues on the floor. we heard cheers from inside the chamber because this one was for all the marbles on the bipartisan infrastructure bill. and at this, point democrats have done it officially. >> all right, ali vitali, our reporter on the hill, with the call of the victory for the democrats. they are going to tracey chapman in this bill, put it in a fast, car drive down pennsylvania avenue, and get it before the president a sleepy so they can talk about a victory and deliverables to the american people. quick, final question that doctor irwin red liner, with our thanks for hanging out with us. doc, we have a story of this later on in the hour but i wanna get you on the record on the aaron rodgers matter, he is of course, an icon to football fans and packers fans chief among them. today, of course, was in the news for not being vaccinated and added bonus, he's covid positive. >> this is not like you or me or anyone that we know simply decided not to get vaccinated. this is a major sports figure, an american hero to many young people and to others and for him to have been dishonest about the fact that he was not vaccinated, he called himself immunized to purposely deceive all of us into thinking that he was vaccinated, but he's. not and on top of, that he's taking a lot of medications now because he's been positive for covid that have not been proven. all of this is a big problem for somebody who should know better. who's really in the public eye. and i think people who are in those kinds of positions have to understand that the world, at least in the united states, is looking at him. >> with our thanks to this panel, a great things as we just update our viewers, the infrastructure bill has passed. so when you see the orange cones on i-95, on i-ten, or if you're in california on the ten, please know that they dated back to this night. we're gonna have to go through a little localized pain to build parts of the failing infrastructure in our country back up. but there you see the winning tally, 220, eight to 204. to jonathan lemire, ali vitali, on the hill, and irwin redlener, but thank you for starting off the discussion. tonight coming up for us, more discussion on the vote we just witnessed. the head knocking it took to get the democrats to get together. and the talks that women held all day today including, but not limited to, 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business powering possibilities. own way? >> this is the democratic party, vitality in diversity is something we all respect and meyer, we are not a lockstep party, we are not a because one person nobody else needs to grow up. where in the best place ever today to be able to go forward. >> iq turn of phrase their, but it's a euphemism, saying vitality and diversity are among the reasons this party has been unable to get out of its own way. as one of our next guest pointed out, that depends on how you define, of course, the best place ever when you hear the speaker. before tonight's vote, the new york times editorial board argues that the democrats better pass something asap, they wrote this in part, democrats agree about far more than they disagree about, but it doesn't look that way to voters after months and months of intraparty squabbling. time to focus on, and pass, policies with broad support. or risk getting run out of office. important night to have these next two days -- don calloway, democratic, strategist founder of the national voter protection action front, and susan del percio, msnbc political analyst, who is herself a veteran political strategist. welcome to you both. don, i've got a caution tough and to start with here, there were several no votes on the part of the democrats, so names like pressley, to lead, omar, aoc. i don't know if you've been to aoc's district, the infrastructure there is in perfect. not everything gleams. how is she going to go back to new york and say, noah, we are good with infrastructure i voted no? >> because the people in her district trust her, and know her enough to understand why she did it, and she did it because she didn't feel like the human infrastructure piece was there, significant i know if that should be confident to give a full-throated support to this. she also do this because she's an astute political operative, and she understood that the votes would be here without her. aoc, younger she, is is equally savvy, and understands that if the vote was needed to pass this infrastructure bill, she would have been on the east side. so what she did was a statement vote to show that she wants the democratic party to go further left, to not assuage to the moderates in the house, and the republicans, i inc. continue to edge right word, she feels like the middle have gone further. but let's be clear, the people in her district are going to need the infrastructural upgrades that this bill provides, she knows, that and she's going to go home next week in an act of some can say political performance, some can say political duplicitous, but she's gonna go back and back about what she and the democratic caucus did. it's part of the political game, but if or vote was necessary she would've done the right thing. >> susan, think of the lingo and terminology we have thrown around, we have been on the air for 30 minutes and 45 seconds, it brings us to the topic of messaging that we've been talking about all week. separated apart from this vote tonight, i want to read you wet our colleague stephanie ruhle tweeted today. these are tangible white house biden accomplishments. one, vaccinations, 2 million to 200 million, jobs created 5 million, three wages up $2 per hour. for, dow up 5000 points. if trump had one of these, he'd be wall-to-wall rose garden ceremonies, primetime speeches, and parades. susan, what is it, and i mean this sincerely, will they ever learn messaging? >> i see no proof that that will happen, as of this point in time. and it's hard, because republicans boil things down into inflation. you're facing inflation. where is democrats want to give you an economic 1:01 lesson into why you may see inflation, but it's really not that, bad and it's gonna come down, and don't worry about, plus we have this legislation that is going to help, we've got your back. i'm telling you, trust us. it doesn't work like that, brian, people go to the grocery store, they see higher prices. they fill up their gas tank, it costs more. and they are not feeling the impacts, the actual good economic news. and that's what i think the issue is with democrats messaging, is that they talk at the voters, instead of talking with them. instead of, i feel your pain, they say i know what your pain is and i'm here to fix it. that's a problem. >> i got one for you susan, democrats should continue this free advice from an ad man, this is donny deutsch earlier on this network talking about what should happen. >> i simple add that has different people saying thank you, thank you for my new bridges, thank you for my medicaid, thank you for my pre-k. just take it off one by one, under the auspices of the economic surge bill, stop it build back better, let's say right, now it's a silky name. >> susan, interesting idea, will anyone act on it? >> i think with the democrats need to do is break out of the traditional road show, if you will. they keep saying president biden wants to go on the road and sell this, and tell the people how great it is. except, that's not would always works in this day in age. and right now, they do have to communicate with people instead of talking at people, as i said. how about, this is government working for you? this is what we're doing for you. here's this plan, that plan, we can't do it yet because they have been passed the social net infrastructure part yet. but when it comes to bridge in tunnels, it's really easy to show up at a groundbreaking with a shovel, and they need to show what that shovel means, and how it's going to help that community. >> well, we all grew up looking at those highway signs that said, your tax dollars at work. it was always at the end of the roadblock, after you lost two hours on your family vacation, as if to make you feel better when traffic freed up again. now don, i understand you deferred with mr. carville, who blamed stupid whoa goodness on so many of the problems that democrats have had? >> there comes a time, i'm from st. louis, it's not a big fan of the spanx brothers, it is a sad day to see spinks beat the carnation out of muhammad ali, i think there's a point where the future of the party needs to take over from mr. carville, there's no way that he can credibly look into a camera from his luxury home in louisiana or washington d.c. and say that the wokeness is the problem with the democratic party. you illuminate the entire day energy, the growth sector of the party. so my message to mr. carville is based on the colossal yesterday's, what's party of the woke agenda is your problem? is it, the full inclusion of the lgbtqia plus community, is it one part of the will karate wrong about? i have my fights on twitter, and i get into it because i don't use my pronouns on zoom meetings. but i don't have a problem with the substance of what he calls the woke folks are at. so i wonder what part of the woke agenda, is he railing against, one part of the woke agenda are you saying that democrat should abandon and walk away from? because fundamentally, what he's saying is, is there's a section of people who should wait for their justice to be granted in this country, to wait for their full acceptance, and their full inclusion to be brought forth in this country. and i really wonder who is he able to look in the face and say wait for justice. as we know, justice delay is justice denied, being fully included in that in the american family is part of all of our self actualization, so i wonder what part of that democrats should not be talking about. what part of that should democrats not be campaigning on, it's easy for people like jim carville to look back and say the democrats have gone too far to the left or too far in favor there will crowd. and i just wonder, what part of that he's willing to say should be deferred another five, ten, 15 years while we placate moderate such as himself. >> we will, in due time, have mr. carville on and put to him all the questions you have asked here tonight. susan, i've got one more for you, and it goes back to the sub theme of branding. mandates. they have of course become red meat, the word is radioactive, it is viewed differently, surprise surprise, in the two nations we have become. is there an alternative? >> well, it's not necessarily an alternative, the fact is that we will see people, more people getting vaccinated. we will have our children going to school's, probably with a vaccine mandate comes september. but it is a sensitive issue that mobilizes people, because it has become representative of the sense of big government. right now, people are tired, they're tired of covid, they don't to be told what to do. even if they're vaccinated, they're against the idea of a mandate. and you know, even in new york city, we had a mayoral election, and eric adams who won, was going to win by huge numbers, everyone knew it. but he wouldn't get into the issue of vaccine mandates, and i find that very interesting, because it goes to show you that there is a strain of the electorate out there, that they could be with you on a whole host of interests, but on personal freedom it's a different thing. just for the record, brian, i should look at it this way. you are not allowed to drive drunk, you're allowed to drink, and you're allowed to stay at home, you're not allowed to go on the road drunk because you can kill me, or yourself. therefore, you should be required to also have a vaccination if you want to go to work on the subway, etc, because you have to keep everybody safe. this is a societal issue. >> you all heard it at home, don't drive drunk, get the vaccine, what a rock of a sock of night to be on the air, i hope you're see being down, the house voted tonight, aryan thanks to don calloway, susan del percio, to talk all about it, coming up for us, chris hadfield was the first canadian to ever walk in space. one of the first astronauts to go truly viral, now he's the author of a new thriller, he is 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and there are some things in there that even i was surprised to discover through recently declassified documents when i was put in the book together. and i'm just loving the fact that the reaction around the world, great article in the new york times, it's a bestseller in several countries. so i think you're gonna enjoy the rest of the book as well. >> indeed, congratulations to you. i know those good reviews and knowing you are gonna come on tonight, i've also been thinking about you a lot vis-à-vis what we have seen happening. so called billionaire space travel. it occurs to me that when cars came out, there was some horribly with people said, not everybody are gonna be able to drive in these things, they will get killed or taken i out. when civilians's are going up on planes, grumpy pilot said, this is not for everybody, to just ride along, you're gonna get killed or take an eye out. is this the dawn of a new era? >> i think it's really easy to get distracted by the lightning rod personalities of some of the billionaires in the world right now. that's naturally distracting. but the technology is the really important thing. just like the car and the airplane. and what's happened, the reason now it's no longer only trillionaires flying in space, the soviet union, and the united states, like in the, book but just because the price is coming down as because he technology has gotten so much better and simpler, and safer, just like with cars and our planes that it's opening so many new opportunities. the stuff that we count on for gps, for navigation, for weather forecasting, and communications, an internet from space, and understanding the changes to the world, that is what this is really allowing. and maybe some space tourism as. well and, yeah, we're gonna stop at some eyes, out is still in the early days. and we need more regulation, just like had to happen with cars and airplanes to make it safe. but we're at a pretty interesting time in history. and to listen to bill shatner come back and poor fourth emotion about how it shifted his whole perception of the fragility of our atmosphere and the perspective of the world, and you only had a ten or 15 minute spaceflight. i think that's site -- side of it is very important to, brian. >> to our viewers a couple of, notes if you want to read the nonfiction real deal what it's like in space, look at chris hadfield's previous books. if fear is something you deal with in your life, look up commander had fields t.e.d. talk on that same topic. it's been viewed millions of times. and before we say goodbye, look at his lapel, that is the order of canada which means he is probably the greatest canadian exports to the world since marty short. commander, it's great to see you, it's great to have you. the book is in my hand. it is called the apollo murders. it is in stores, it is wherever you bayou books right now. great to have you back, chris hadfield, thank you so much. coming up for, us the news today from the world of sports had nothing to do with sports. it had a lot more to do with vaccines. o with vaccines wealth is saving a little extra. worth is knowing it's never too late to start - or too early. ♪ ♪ wealth helps you retire. worth is knowing why. ♪ ♪ principal. for all it's worth. as a dj, i know all about customization. that's why i love liberty mutual. they customize my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. how about a throwback? 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>> yeah, i'm immunized. >> today, rogers, who said the work mob tried to cancel, him insisted that he was not misleading the public. >> my plan was to say that i have been immunized, it wasn't some sort of ruse or lie, it was the truth. >> he says he's allergic to ingredients in mrna vaccines and was concerned about j&j side effects. so he received an immunization particle. not scientifically proven to provide immunity against covid. now, sidelined for at least ten days, rodgers laws might stretch be on the football field, in -- impacting his public perception after fumbling his handling of vaccination status. miguel almaguer, and d.c.. news >> and coming up front us, it turns out that listening for a leaf blower might've made more sense them with the news media was actually invited to this place to hear. place to hear [gaming sounds] [gaming sounds] just think, he'll be driving for real soon. every new chevy equinox comes standard with chevy safety assist, including automatic emergency braking. find new peace of mind. find new roads. chevrolet. last thing lasting before we go tonight, where were you when you first heard of four seasons total landscaping? more than perhaps any other single campaign event, the press conference in front of their garage door in northeast philadelphia nestled between a sex shop and a crematorium, was truly emblematic of the make it up as you go along ethos of the trump campaign. rudy giuliani, the black goose secrete or-in-chief, standing in front of microphones at a yard care business. we hardly had time back then to ask why, but were they busy trying to steal an election and us busy trying to cover all the crazy. but now it's all neatly explained in a new documentary airing on. this network this coming sunday night. it set -- centered around the employers and workers of the four seasons landscaping, living their own, lives minding their own business in northeast philly, when they got the call that they had been selected somehow to host a press conference for the presidents campaign for days out of the election. here is the trailer. >> for a landscaping company. we are experts in, irrigation seeding, planning, not press conferences. >> why would the president have a press conference at a landscaping company? >> it was a quick setup, you saw it on tv. it was a landscape construction yard. >> wow, what a beautiful day. thank. you >> we had no idea what we were in for. >> oh my goodness! all the networks. >> i remember asking, did we make a mistake? >> we had a lot of haters. >> you have 1010 new messages. >> it created a lot of fear of what the future holds for four seasons total landscaping. >> we got put into a corner and we used our humor to get us out of it. >> all the networks! >> they made a joke out of everything because was funny to us. it's an american underdogs story. >> for good reason, it is called four seasons total documentary. it airs 10 pm eastern time, sunday night. then you time, after we all turn the clocks back. on that note, that is our broadcast for this friday, night and for this, week with our thanks for being here with us have a great weekend unless you have other plans on behalf of all of our colleagues at the networks of nbc news, goodnight. t. and good evening for those anticipating rachel maddow we will be joining her broadcast as it aired 9:00 eastern time live on the eastern coast just a bit,

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