So good to see you again. When this all happened last night, i thought of many things, but i did think of you, and ill tell you why. Its evidence related. You have used your knowledge, your program over the many months of this to talk about how initially it was pretty clear that the Justice Department was not going beyond the events of that day, and you and i talked about that. Other reporters have weighed in, and im curious even though i know you have been talking about it for two hours how you think we got here. Because what we saw in this indictment that i thought was both strong, gripping and bad for the indicted donald trump, was how long and repeatedly they tried to end democracy in america. Yeah, the indictment is so harrowing, and i think that jack smith was at this for just ten months, obviously he built on all of the good work of the committee. I have learned that things are never as clean as what they appear, and we dont always have all the facts before them. But i think the
a bedrock principle of the department of justice and our nation s commitment to the rule of law sets a an example for the world. we have one set of laws in this country and they apply to everyone. applying those laws, collecting facts, that s what determines the outcome of an investigation. nothing more, nothing less. the words of rachel math maddow, stunningly simple words in both the indictment and from behind the podium. it was the first time we as an american public have ever heard from the special counsel notably he praised the fbi and the prosecutors on his team. rachel pointed out they have already come under vicious attack by the indicted ex-president. he encouraged all of us to read the indictment itself, an endeavor we re taking seriously. it s known as a speaking indictment, meaning it is straight forward and, frankly, gripping and dramatic. it lays out the alleged crimes trump faces. 31 counts have to do with the espionage act. we re going to unpack all of them.
hello to you. and welcome to the programme. is the bloody battle for bakhmut over? the head of russia s wagner mercenary group says its forces will hand over the city to russian forces as it declares victory and withdraws. kyiv, though, says it still controls pockets of the city. also in the programme: migration is not out of control. the uk prime minister says the number of people coming to the uk is still too high after new figures show net migration hit a new record high. as business demands more workers, we ll assess proposals for a new skills based visa system. armed officers descend on central london after a car crashes into the gates of downing street. police say a man was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage and dangerous driving, but the incident is not being treated as terror related. and after a storm of racist abuse against real madrid s vinicius junior, the president of la liga denies that the spanish football league is racist, but he calls for new powers to
appointed judge who will make that call. plus, trump s legal liability. simultaneous investigations are underway from january 6th to georgia. what poses the most peril for the former president? also, rudy giuliani s role in january 6th should come as no surprise to those of you who remember the new york police riots. we ll talk about rudy event than in rudy now. i ve ever jury guesses comedy paves the way for others to follow. this is american voices. erican voices. we begin this hour and texas. a judge will hand down a ruling that could affect the future of abortion access across the country. it could affect laws that protect reproductive freedom. it comes down to one man, a judge with a long history of antiabortion beliefs. judge matthew because merrick has, quote, the opportunity to impose the most far-reaching limit on abortion access since the supreme court overturned roe. he will soon rule on a lawsuit seeking to revoke u.s. government approval of mifepristone, a ke
positionm schiff using a position of the intel chairina lying to the american publicmeag again and again. swalwell, you all know, doesu a not have the ar should have the responsibility to serve on the intel committee. i ll put the nationarve on thely ahead of partisan politics any day. integrit the nationay matters ae going to make the intel committee back to what it was tt supposed to be.s suppos well, today, those aforementioned democrats held a press conference on being mocrats hebooted. it was a sad affair alleging ofis was merely an act of political retaliation by mccarthy. in other words political ret, te basically owed these positions will only, i think, breed with distrust within the intelligence community. ligenceas to what it can shares and what it caann feel confident about sharing with thecong congress. our mission noress. our mw is to restore the credibility and integrity of this institution. of which the speaker has so gravely so gravely smasheddestro and