clear and present effort to subvert the constitution, itself. you guys, this is unprecedented in every single way. now, meanwhile, on capitol hill this week, the senate passed a measure that raises the debt ceiling to early december. now by doing the, they have set off a global financial disaster that could have crippled things like social security and medicaid, federal and military salaries and food stamps and all this could have happened for absolutely no reason. so, now that the country has been kicked down the road. let's talk about what's in your wallet? the president hit the road negotiating what's in that reconciliation bill you guys keep hearing about. he is negotiating with his own party. there is a lot in this legislation that is going to directly impact up. but if an effort to lower the price tag, democrats are in the midst of adjusting the cost. but as congresswoman camilla jayapal points out to "cbs news." >> you can't pit child care against pr-k. we can't put pre-k against climate change or housing against immigration. >> where does that leave things? joining me now delegates to the virgin islands and former impeachment congresswoman casey class ket and vice chair of the labor committee also known as the health committee, new york congressman jamal bowman, thanks for being here. we have a lot to jump into, congresswoman plaskett, this showdown with president biden and the former president donald trump, this is making me very nervous because this is something that could really determine our democracy, quite frankly. this is unprecedented, because there is no law for the president for the national archives, what's your take on this? >> well, good morning to you, tiffany. and welcome to the "cross connection" to my brother jamal, it's good to see you this morning as well. i think that what we are in is unprecedented time when you have a former president during the time that he was president attempting to an insurrection against not just our government, not just against the election, but to democracy, itself and our constitution. so i'm really confident, however, that not only does the white house have a tremendous council but the select committee as well. listen you know in talking with chairman benny thompson, he said he is going wherever the truth leads him. he is going to be sure that the select committee does what's necessary to ensure that we create safeguards for our democracy so that this doesn't happen again and that includes the planner of that insurrection, former president donald trump while he was president. >> yeah, let me ask you, the congresswoman said a lot. i am really concerned about what might happen if the gop retakes the house and the senate. essentially, the january 6th commission could likely go. do you think at this point considering all the voting rights legislation that is kind of doa, the voter suppression rung rampant in this country, gerrymandering, redistricting, can the dems hold the house and the senate when we're around the corner from mid-terms? >> i think we can and i think we will. but i do think you should be concerned. i think we should all be colonel. this is why it's really important to stay engaged in our democracy on a daily basis and for people across the country to continue to organize. our job now we have the house and the senate and the white house is to deliver for the american people. if we deliver with the build back better act, if we deliver with vogt rights, if we deliver with correspondence gun reform and all of the other initiatives the house has been delivering on throughout this year while republicans have tried to obstruct, then the american people will see that democrats are delivering, republicans do not want to govern, they want fascism and they will pull us back in and help us to maintain our majority in both the house and the senate. but it's thin and we need everyone engaged and informed as we pass the build back better ac, which as you said has so much in it that's going to be transformative for women, for black women, for children, for juniors, for housing. it's an exciting time we got to get it done. >> you say keep the people informed. let's do that and talk about spec things in that bill. as you know, the president is negotiating with his own party to lower the price tag. now they want to take this, get it to between 1.9 trillion and 2.2 trillion. is that enough to include all of the things the congressional progressive caucus wants in this bill. you can see on this screen, it's quite comprehensive? >> well, i think that i sit on the ways an means committee, which was tasked with a mark-up of many of the components of the build back better act. and under chairman ritchie neil, we were able find 2.3 revenue generation through corporate tax increase as well as to increasing the tax rate on the wealthiest americans and not touching others to be able to pay for that. 2.3 revenues generated through build back better. and i do believe that we as democrats are going to do what's necessary to ensure that we are not only, you know, as jamal rightly pointed out all of the things that we have done that are in the plan, but also to ensure that we continue to create equity in housing. to create, to you know build wealth in this country. listen, through the american rescue plan, democrats were able to drive child poverty down by 50% with the child tax credit. we know that we can put money in american's pocket, protect our most vulnerable americans, ensure that they have the resources to grow as well as to make sure that as president biden has said that this country is leading and not following others and ensuring that we are the innovators and that all people have a shot here in this country. >> you laid out a lot there. congressman, considering everything that's in this bill, we have been showing it on our screen so viewers understand how comprehensive this is. now, obviously, democrats are trying to pass this through reconciliation. this is a way to fast track this which enables senate to approve it without republican support. yes the two people holding it up the most are in your party, senator joe manchin and kirsten cinema. is there a word, a plan, a policy to get it past two people who are holding up something that is overwhelming popular for the american people? >> the words are common sense. this is common sense legislation for the american people. the majority of the american people support this ledges racing. the majority of democrats in the house and senate support this legislation. the initial concerns were the price tag is too high. it's going to cause inflation we're passing debt on to our children well as representative plaskett just mentioned, we have offsets, we have pay fors and other options, 3.5 trillion will literally be zero once you include the pay fors. unfortunately, some don't accept the pay fors. they don't want to heed taxes on the wealthy or raise the corporate tax. they want to allow trillions of dollars to continue to be hitting overseas, which there has been reporting on that recently, so again, this is our time to deliver. this is our time to deliver equitably. if we really care about being competitive and we really care about innovation, invest in the poor black and brown children in the bronx and mt. vernon, the same way we invest in tesla and those other companies that allow them to take trips to outer space while people are being shot and killed in my district. >> very good point. go right ahead. >> i just wanted to point out is listen you are hearing jamal bowman from representing the outer parts of new york city as well as myself, a congresswoman from the virgin islands. we are saying the same things. we agree on so much more than people and many in the media are trying to say that we do not. i want to thank you for providing us and showing that, in fact, democrats want to deliver, that we want to continue to deliver for the american people, so that we can build back coming out of this tremendous crisis that we have been in. and i think we're going to continue to put pressure, we're grateful for the leadership of the house, as well as the senate, continuing to have those conversations with the senators who have issues right now. we believe we will deliver. look at the zeal of my brother jamal and so 'of us fighting every day for the american people. we're going to make it happen. >> right i think you raise a really good point, you do hear and a lot of my colleagues unfortunately will pick this argument as democrats versus democrats. while wear talking about that, what we're not talking about is the effort to erode the cornerstone of the country by the republican party which morphed into the maga party. i want you to listen to steve bannon who is thumbing his nose to the january 6th commission we'll talk about it on the other side. >> the democrats are absolutely freaked out about donald trump's rise in 2020 and 2024. this a charade, this january 6th committee. this is what they're trying to do is bring charges to president trump to stop his sweeping victory that will come. >> so when they're thumbing their nose, they're not taking the commission seriously, which will have wide sweeping impact. you wonder if they will ever xe accept another election outcome. you were a former impeachment manager, how can the january 6th commission walk it like they talk it and let people mean it, when we send a subpoena, we expect you to be here. what can they do? >> i think you will see at the end of the day chairman thompson and the members of the election committee aren't going to assert what the authorities congress has in this. let's not forget there are tremendous numbers of individuals who are willingly coming forward and giving evidence, giving testimony, you know, fulfilling depositions to the select committee and we're grateful to those patriots who are willing to do that. the committee is going to go as far as necessary to ensure that this happens. you've seen there is legislation even by others. you know, and i, we all who are here, you know, benny thompson, he is not going to shirk his duty. >> right. >> and you know congress does have powers. and, if necessary, we will exert them. but i believe you will see at the end of the day that they will do what is necessary, that includes criminal contempt or you know there is a prism in the bottom of the congress for those individuals and the sergeant of arms does have his authority to ensure that individuals do not circumvent the authority given through the constitution to the congress. >> right, exactly. while there are people sitting in prison for a lot less trying to overthrow the government. really quickly, congressman, we are way out of time i want to ask you quickly before we go, you are newer to congress him i'm curious what the feeling is like. you are working alongside people like gosar and marjorie taylor green, what is your sentiment when you pass those folks in the hallway knowing how they feel about our democracy and donald trump, quite frankly? >> yes. so, i am thankful for the cbc, the congressional black caucus, i'm thankful for the cpc as well. i feel i have a home there. it's hard to walk the halls with people literally trying to promote civil war and literally trying to bring guns onto the floor of the house. so that's difficult but you know i try my best to stay away from people who want to do me harm and stay close to people who are trying to do good work for the country. thankfully, that's the majority of the people in the house. it's much better, i have been told, to be in the congress while democrats are in the majority so we can get some things done. >> all right. we are way over time. last time i asked congresswoman plaskett that question, she said some folks are crazy, they're not stupid. they know who to try. we'll leave it there. thank you. coming up next, tens of thousands of kids, mostly black and brown, have lost a parent or primary care giver to covid-19. over the break, we will discuss the social and economic cost. this is a devastating loss. stay with us. this is a devastating loss stay with us ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ (sfx: video game vehicle noises, to unvhorns beeping,) world. 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>> at the precipice out of the pandemic, it's right at the beginning, the foster care system, as i understood, i'm not a child care expert, the foster system at that time was undergoing the same constraints that tall other industries were undergoing with limits on social contacts, social distancing, inability to provide certain programing. you have a system under tremendous duress get into a position where some of the bake services couldn't be delivered. they're working to correct that. there has been new investment with all of the federal relief money that's come out. the situation is starting to improve but at the outset, you've got kids who are already at risk and then their basic services, just for the kids already in the system. not any of the new kids, right? there are ones already in the system feeling the effect of the pandemic, based on the way it was affecting delivery of services. then you have that influx of children. >> yeah. >> in new york state alone, we expected that something like 4200 children lost parents in the first wave between march and july. think about that in all of these different situations. you are never counting just the kids the pandemic affected. there are the kids already in the system. >> exactly. something i found interesting about the cdc study is they're very specific geographic areas where children of color were impacted. for example, the study shows the highest burden of debt occurred in southern border states for latino children, southeastern states for black children and in states with tribal areas for american indian and alaska native children. i wonder certainly black folks live in other places other than these. >> but all of those places have the theme of economic distress in common. so you've got places with high concentration of people who are higher poverty,ing lower rates of education higher unemployment rates, lower participation rates in the labor force. there is a difference between being unemployed and dropping out of the labor force because there are no jobs available to you. and then there is just lower medium income overall and more frequent changes in housing people are more housing secure, they're dumd doubled up. they're unable to social distance because they live and work in vulnerable occupations. things like food and agriculture. we heard about the outbreaks of the covid in the meat packing plants and warehouses. when you can't social distance at work and can't social distance at home and you live doubled up, it's very hard to contain an airborne virus. >> it's possible some scientists might argue, the study concluded before the delta variant. so the numbers from the cdc study will likely increase now the delta variant is out. i've seen a lot of footage, these anti-mask folks confronting parents while they're walking their children to school. it's devastating footage, kids are covering their ears. they're scared about this. what is your message to moo emwho just outright refuse in the face of children losing their parents, you would think that's one area where we can all agree. what is your message to people who are outright refusing to take this virus seriously and are still you know thinking mistakeing masks for persecution? >> i am personally very invested in the idea of doing what you need to do to protect the community, it's not just for yourself, you are trying to protect everyone. when you have a generation of people protected by a mass casualcy event. this is what this is. you have a generation impacted by trauma, who are going to experience stress and a lifetime of risk for increased mental health problems, decreased education, lower life spans, they're going to live shorter lives because of the impact of loss of parents and this pandemic. >> all right. exactly. and even in case you have fought lost a parent or care taker, like you said, we are experiencing mass casualty and emotional impacts they v. thank you so much for joining us. you have to come back. up next, native-americans have long been a target for voter suppression. i will be joined by a congresswoman who engineers a bill to protect their rights. you don't want to miss it. stay right here. u don't want to. stay right here. 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>> yeah, that's a great question. it's one we are spending time to address. we saw the power of the native vote in the 2020 election. at the end of the day, one of the things that i am super committed to here in congress is making sure that everyone who is eligible to vote is able to get registered, cast a ballot and have it counted. you know in native communities on trial lands for native folks across the country, there are some unique barriers that exist, because of the relationship between the federal government and tribal governments and they are designed to specifically address some of those things. >> so gerrymandering is also a big problem, a huge problem in our democracy, so i'm curious, jacqueline, how you are planning to address redistricting? because what a lot of people may not realize in pockets all across this country, the vote makes a key difference like congressional races, talk to me about gerrymandering and how you are addressing that issue. >> that's right. across the country, native-americans like you say have the power to decide elections. a lot will depend on how the lines are drawn. we have launched the largest redistricting project in the history of the country. our intention is to work locally with the get out the vote organizations and tribal communities locally that know them well to fight for fair lines. >> we will keep our eye on redistricting. because this is impacting really everybody. congresswoman, something that's interested. we talked about the bipartisan bill. you introduced your counterpart across the aisle, congressman to him coles. however, there are some things in this bill. like you have to lead at the middle at the polls. he didn't want to touch things like third party ballots, which made some people depend on, specifically with them targeting that issue specifically. how do you feel about that and how was it working with him on issues that perhaps you felt strongly about and so did he? >> yeah. i think there are a couple of things. one. we got, i was going to try to come up with maybe some cooking analogy. i'm not much of a chef, myself. i do think we have a lot of great ingredients for addressing so many of the voter suppression access issues we are seeing and certainly when we're talking elders living in rural areas, there are parts of indian country where it's very rural and having family members and other folks who are able to help in the voting process is very, very important. and you know i think that's why it's important we've got the native american voting rights act, the john lewis voting ac and others we are seeing momentum behind. because one bill is not going to be able to address all of the issues we are seeing. my hope is that as we push through this process that we'll get there at the end of the day. >> i am with you. let me ask you, because we also saw a huge increase in the native-american voting block last election cycle. we saw a 40-to-50% increase in participation. diversity is something very near and dear to me. in the media, a lot of outlets will columns clumsily group it into everything else. which feels so disrespectful to the first people of this nation. how can we make the native-american block get attention and fight for their vote like they do other constituencies? the conservative christian rights, for example? >> i certainly appreciate the opportunity to share on your show the fact that native-americans are so, such a crucial voting block throughout the country. what we have to do is continue to cover and list the places where native-americans have made a difference like arizona, wisconsin, michigan, minnesota, across the country. but also i think we have to lift up the ways in which it's difficult to vote and make sure we say when native nerns have power we don't put more of a target on the back of americans, which is something we are seeing when the americans flex their power, there is an immediate response at the local and state level to suppress their vote. we have to fight against that. >> i stand in solidarity. i want to say to our audience as well, we want to acknowledge monday is a day so you both have to come back. i thank you so much for joining us. you both have to come back soon. >>. coming up next, legal action to right a wrong. how the medical industry profited from the body of a black woman without her consen and paid billions. we will talk about that next. en and paid billions. we will talk about that next ♪darling, i, i can't get enough of your love babe♪ ♪girl, i don't know, i don't know,♪ ♪i don't know why i can't get enough of your love babe♪ ♪oh no, babe girl, if i could only make you see♪ ♪and make you understand♪ get a dozen double crunch shrimp for $1 with any steak entrée. only at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. 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>> well, tiffany, thank you for having us to talk about this landmark lawsuit. this isn't simply a lawsuit about simple justice. not even just about social justice. this is about genetic justice. this notion that justice should flow from one generation to the next. attorney chris seiger and ken parker, we filed this lawsuit based on a well-stabbed legal principle known as unjust enrichment. that is the wrongdoer can't do the wrongful act and then continue to benefit at the peril of the victim and the victim here is henrietta lacks and her family who as you stated contributed so much to modern medicine. her immortal cells are the cornerstone of mod were medicine. these pharmaceutical companies have made billions upon billions of dollars and her family, her legacy, they haven't received one red cent in compensation and where is the equity? where is the fairness and justice in that? >> and where is the morality, quite frankly, your grandmother's story is frequently referenced when it comes to distrust of black people by the medical community. i first learned that story. i'm curious you being her grandson, what does justice look like to you? >> well, justice to me, my family getting the adequate medical care, getting the equity. this has been 70 years in the making. and my father has been fighting for this for a long time. this lawsuit is very important. i know that we will get to take henrietta lacks' legacy back. but what is very important to me is i want to restore my grandmother's legacy. i have been fighting for this for alongside my today for years now. so to see the nar theive that eb else put out there and my grandmother, i want to change thatch i've taken, for instance, rebecca's suit insulted henry et that and her family because she had to sign her name with an x or that lawrence and david are greedy. she is the only one that has been enriched by henrietta. my aunt deshlgs crazy, no one would have called my aunt crazy but her. so i want to change the narrative of my family. >> all right. and take some ownership back. so, ben, even right now, you can purchase mrs. lacks' cells on thermo fisher's website for $2,000. the family is not getting any of that money. i'm curious have they responded to the lawsuit? have you seen any response from them at all? >> they have fought responded as of yet. but i know some pharmaceutical companies have tried to step up to do the right thing. as you well know, tiffany cross, in the aftermath of george floyd being tortured to death, mr. corporations made a pledge, a commitment to social justice. >> right. >> many of those were pharmaceutical companies, well, i will submit henrietta lacks self equally but not greater than george floyd. so if you want to honor your commitment to social justice, then do right by henrietta lacks finally and henrietta. she has given so much to the world. how about the world try to give something to her and her family as she looks down from heaven saying, what about my family? >> so, the thermo scientific isn't the only company that benefitted from her cells. so many others did, including john hopkins', why did you choose to name them in the lawsuit and are more lawsuits coming? >> well, it was strategic with thermo fish erskinetistic initially. however, we feel as attorney sieinger said, they won't be around longer, we feel over 200 corporations have profited over a billion dollars, tiffany, in using the healer cells that are henrietta lacks' genetic makeup. it is very arguable, if you've ever gotten a vaccine of any kind in the last 70 years, then you have a little henrietta in you, too. >> while, well, i am honored to have a little henrietta in me. i want you to know, the medical community has a long, extensive record of these times of experimental procedures on black people. so on another day, we'll have to talk about experiments that happened during the period of enslavement. it's frightening to see. the story is not frightening to any of us. thank you for coming on the show. best of luck to you and your family. thank you to your contributions. i hope you will be compensated fairly. next, i'll break down a controversial and self loathing remarks and she's not the only one if my target this morning. so stay tuned. e only one if my target this morning. so stay tuned. ♪ ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ super emma just about sleeps in her cape. but when we realized she was battling sensitive skin, to unveil them to the world. we switched to tide hygienic clean free. it's gentle on her skin, and out cleans our old free detergent. tide hygienic clean free. hypoallergenic and safe for sensitive skin. 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>> i'm really glad you asked that, tiffany. i do think there is so much that we can do. you know, i've seen lots of fundraisers for planned parent ood nationally and in texas. i think there's something really important which is donating to your local abortion fund. there are a number in texas that serve really important areas. that is really the way that we ensure that people who will continue to do this life saving work are able to do it even in the face of this absolutely terrible court ruling. >> the other thing that i think is really important for all of us to remember is that women will always have abortions and have always had abortions. the only thing that changes here is whether or not women can have safe abortions. and in particular, it's not all women. it's really specifically and in texas, latina and black women, whether or not they will be able to have safe abortions. and so what we need to do is make sure that we're loud and proud about our support for abortions, about how normal it is, and how important it is for women, especially black and latino women to be able to make choices about their body. as a latina woman myself, it's really critically important to say how important it is to speak up in my community about this. i'm a deeply religious woman, and grew up in a super catholic family, and there is a stigma associated with it. i know that my faith and my god also say that women should have the ability to make choices, and that those choices can be guided by our faith, but also can't put us in danger. >> i think that's the key point that you made. women are going to -- you cannot force a woman to carry a child to term, like you said, this is just about safe abortion access. brad, you were in the obama administration. i do not recall this level of attacks against a woman's right to choose during that administration. why is this resurfacing in such a vicious and visceral way now? >> you're right, tiffany. look, this is over almost half a century worth of precedent here. we're going backwards. this is like it's incredible to me. hearing jess, i'm getting emotional. one thing i will say is the women's march happened here a couple of weeks ago. women have been fighting this fight, but last i've seen, women do not get pregnant by themselves. this needs to be an issue that men stand up for. this is unfathomable where we're at, where we're heading and, again, to jess's point, every single american needs to stand up. this is an assault on every single woman in this country, and i know that planned parenthood and so many incredible litigators and activists are fighting that fight, but it's crazy to me, all these woke bays on twitter, tiffany, i'm not hearing a lot from them. this is every single day we should be hearing from men, from influencers saying this is unacceptable. >> absolutely. michael, i'll give you a chance to say how unacceptable it is. >> what we're talking about is a human rights violation. it's not just, you know, something that is incumbent upon women to carry this burden by themselves. our government is telling people that a certain part of this society has to do -- they can control their body and they can make choices with women, and that's the -- this is about christian religion and these political issues that the right is trying to appeal to before this upcoming election because they don't have a real political basis or a real political ideology that people like, like even abortion the right to choose is universally among republicans and democrats kind of universally accepted now. it's just using these craven tactics and these human rights violations as a political tool, and we have to say that they're human rights violations, and we have to call out this christian right, what they would call like it was any other thing, they would call it -- like they can call it religious ideology. fundamental religious ideology when they're talking about islam, but not this. and i think we have to talk about that. >> i think so, and i think that's a really good point you make, this is a human rights violation so it's time to put some of these state legislators out of the job if you ask me. another disappointing jobs report is out, the u.s. economy added only 194,000 jobs in the month of september. that's significantly less than the 500,000 that analysts predicted, but this is what i find most troubling about all of this, and that's who is being left behind. according to "the washington post," as of may, those with college degrees had pretty much fully recovered all their pandemic job losses, but who's having the hardest time? less educated americans and black women of all education levels with more than 550,000 fewer black women working now than they were in february 2020, and this is despite black women being the most educated demographic in the country. michael, i'll stick with you on this. this is quite disappointing to hear. why is it that black women, the numbers don't add up. why are black women being left behind? >> well, you know you can apply the same adage that we use with abortion, like when america catches a cold, black people catch the flu, right? so the reason for this -- and it's not about education, right, because black women are one of the most educated demographics in america, but it is about, like when we see the economy shrink, the people who get the choices to lay off people and to hire people, they make those choices based on how they've always made those choices, so if the black unemployment historically since the 1930s have been twice the white unemployment rate. then when people lay off, black people are laid off at twice the rate of white people. when people are hired, white people are hired at twice -- it's just a mad problem that reflects the racial dynamics of economics in america since the 1930s, 90 years, and that's just since we've been counting but it's really always been that way. what we're seeing is this disparity play itself out in a pandemic. >> yeah, and jeff, look, i mean, it's not that much better for latina women and when you look at the unemployment numbers, i think something that's important to understand is this is like kind of a current snapshot, right? they're not counting people who have pretty much exited the work force. they're looking at people who are still actively looking at employment, even when you see good jobs numbers, it's still that sub text of what do they look like in these pockets of people of color. what's your take on this? >> yeah, we know that the pandemic has really affected latina women, black women among the most, and especially poor black women, poor latina women. those disparities are just being exposed, but they've always existed. one thing that is true, right now in congress the build back better agenda is addressing some of this, particularly in the case of the care economy, which is almost exclusively populated by these same women who are being the most affected and are the most exposed to covid. so congress actually has the ability right now to make an historic investment in the care economy, in the women's economy, in the feminist economy, and we see that there is negotiations that they might not even pass a bill that would support that while they pass a bill that would support this kind of traditional infrastructure of roads and bridges. so one of the most important things that we need to do today right now is make sure that we keep congress on the hook to pass something in reconciliation that provides relief for black and latina women, for poor women, for people in the care economy who are really just crying out for relief in the time of this pandemic and have been really clear that they are counting on congress to provide it. >> right. and i guess i want to point this out, brad, because look, these numbers are horrible for people of color. in general i don't know that the jobs numbers are -- taking aside our communities, but i don't know that the jobs numbers are as bad as the press makes them out to be, you know, the story of the economy in the second half of 2021, quite honestly seems to be a steady expansion. we need to do better for communities of color, but i can't say this is a failure at biden's feet. what's your take? >> no, it's not, and you're right, tiffany, from where we've come, look, we just came out of a trump covid pandemic. you're right, the numbers do not -- you know, they should be a lot better than where they're at, but just think about where we've come, and i think that, you know, we learned a lot about this during the obama years. the midterms are about a year away. like they're right around the corner, and we do need to do a better job of telling the story, right? there have been historic investments, but we need to do more, as jess said. congress has to come to the table here for the care economy. the united states is one of the worst countries in the world when it comes to investments in the care economy and for children, and if we want to see -- if we want to see growth, if we want to see the economy rise again, we have to make this critical investment in our care economy. >> absolutely. and i don't know how the economy is doing in alabama, but i want to talk about it with you, my l -- michael, i'm sure you know this, michael. last week republican governor kay ivey signed a law allowing $400 million in covid-19 funds to build two super sized prisons and "the washington post" also reveals that codified in alabama's state constitution is more than half million dollars a year to fund one single confederate memorial while black historical sites struggle to keep their doors open. michael, what is going on in alabama? >> they're just being as alabama as they could be. you know, i've been in conversation for months with prisoners who are inside alabama's prisons. what we have to look at when we talk about this prison using funds, the department of justice has declared that the entire prison system of alabama is a criminal enterprise and a human rights violation. i've watched people die in those prisons this week. i've had mothers call me and talk about how their sons are just -- they just let their sons die. i've seen people die from covid. and the federal government knows this is going on. they sue them. if this was any other country, it's a large scale human rights violation. there's no air-conditioning in most of the prisons, half of the summer it was over 120 degrees during the day in these prisons. it rains inside. there's no roofing inside, and, again, they're spending money on confederate monuments, but you can say in a sense that the entire state of alabama is a confederate monument, and this is what is going on in this -- and in prisons across the country, but alabama has been deemed the worst of them. they've been deemed the most violent prisons and the worst kept prisons in the country, and again, it's a criminal enterprise and a human rights violation. >> yeah, i mean, it's ridiculous, and way too many black folks there. really quickly, kim kardashian is hosting "saturday night live," and i just have one question. i'll start with you, brad. why? i really don't get it. why is she hosting snl? >> i mean, look, you-all, snl has a very long history of very bad snl hosts. i'll just say that. very unfunny snl hosts. at the end of the day, it's about ratings. at the end of the day, it's about getting people around -- i guess it's not even television sets anymore, around streaming devices. i'll give it to kim. she can laugh at herself. i think that if rudy giuliani and donald trump and all of these awful humans can be snl hosts, kim kardashian can be an snl host, too. >> all right, well, i don't know if i'll be tuned in tonight or not, i may have to watch the clips on that one in the morning. anyway, thank you, brad jenkins, michael harriet, and jess morales, great panel. insider revelations object this week to keep you and especially teens glued and addicted to social media. we'll discuss the harmful long-term effects it could be having on all of us. that's coming up next. s. that's coming up next. got a cos on your six, limu. they need customized car insurance from liberty mutual so they only pay for what they need. what do you say we see what this bird can do? 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help me. >> well, this is the thing is that you're an adult and your brain is fully formed. imagine if you were a child or a teenager and your brain is not fully formed. so this is what happens with social media, and that we know at least the research that i check as a psychiatrist shows there's some good and bad, what we see with facebook and big tech is that they're choosing the bad, the harmful material to highlight instead of the good that can be done. so every time you're scrolling and you're scrolling and you're seeing, you know, an image that's encouraging you to eat less so you can fit into a certain dress or be a certain kind of size, that information is then pushed to the top of your queue. you watch it over and over again, and it reactivates dopamine, the reward chemical that we see in addiction, that we see in gambling. and when you are a younger person, not the age of tiffany, who's still very young, i think. >> thank you. >> imagine that pathway just keeps getting reinforced and reinforced and reinforced at a time when the brain formation is extremely important. that's why this information about facebook choosing this material over the good is extremely harmful in the eyes of me as a mental health professional. >> yeah, definitely, and since i'm not that much older than teenagers and speak the language of today's youth, erin, i've been following your reporting and love your work. thanks for being here. your reporting on this i found really interesting, i want to ask you about, you know, we spent this last year plus right, with kids not being in school, really missing out on some of those crucially important developmental stages, and what i've noticed with my friend's kids is they're not even using these apps to post anymore. a lot of times they're using them as messaging apps. they're sending messages but looking at other people's posts comparing them to them. what should this reporting reveal to you about this phenomenon? >> yeah, especially over the last year everything has gone online so much, everyone's social lives have just become social media and texting and messaging and so these apps have really seen an outsized importance in the lives of their young users. so i talked with some teens who are posting less on the app and they are really using it as messaging. they're using it to follow their friends and to follow celebrities and so it just becomes this whole media ecosystem they've been really stuck in for the past year. >> it feels like we're stuck, and i think about my friends, what they go through with their kids, communicating on these apps. dr. cyrus, take a listen to something, i'll be honest, i didn't know existed. take a listen to senator blumenthal and we'll talk about it after. >> will you commit to ending finsta? >> again, let me explain, we don't actually -- we don't actually do finsta. >> okay, so i know we all kind of want to make fun of blumenthal there, but can i tell you, i did not know what finsta was. this is a fake instagram. i guess a level of catfishing, i suppose. why are people doing that? >> who knows why people do anything, but i could imagine it's probably to look good in the eyes of -- through someone else or at least to be able to anonymously browse without people sort of knowing who you are. i think this is the thing that's so dangerous about facebook and especially as a young person. you are seeing people who are, you know, taller than you, skinnier than you, more stylish than you and you're thinking in your head do i measure up. >> right. >> and so if you don't know that you measure up, are you going to show yourself and your own profile, are you going to create another profile to try to spy on other people? there's so many things that facebook can encourage you to do at that age when you don't feel like you're enough. i mean, i was 15 once. i didn't have facebook. i mean, i was a black closeted queer girl who had ellen degeneres. i can imagine then what i would be doing on facebook now trying to, you know, see did i measure up back then and what that does to me at least now. yeah. >> i cannot imagine growing up with any social media. number one, i probably wouldn't be sitting in this chair if you documented everything i did as a teenager and in my 20s. it's kind of ridiculous. i want to stick with you for a sec, dr. cyrus, when you talk about measuring up, a lot of these filters, really do center a euro centric form of beauty. all of these things are very damaging. we get enough of that in media and other spaces. what impact do you think that's having on young girls of color in particular? >> i'm really glad you brought this up. one thing that we're seeing particularly with young girls of color, black girls is that suicide rates have been going up since 2013, up 53%, and so while this facebook study or other studies on social media may not directly influence those types of rates, you can only imagine that, again, every day if you are scrolling through images of people who don't look like you, how does that make you feel? and as a psychiatrist who mostly sees black and brown or lgbtq identified patients who are adults, i hear them talking about their childhood and what it was like for them to grow up without images, positive images of people who look like them and how it leads to internalized hate over the years that, you know, doesn't get talked about because, you know, we're not here to talk about the mental health system and what access people don't have, but imagine what this is going to do downstream for all of these kids growing up with social media like this. >> yeah, and erin, before we go, i want to ask you really quickly, there's a lot of misinformation that happens on facebook as well, and what we learned this week is facebook implemented these safeguards but rolled them back after the election. think about young people consuming that and how this shapes their beliefs. what's your reporting reveal to you about that? >> so my reporting was focused more on what instagram is doing to teens in terms of their mental health, but i can say that i would imagine that teens are in many cases less equipped to deal with fake news and to deal with misinformation just because they haven't had as much experience in terms of sorting out what's real and what's fakes fake. and i will note on the point of what's fake, fake instagrams and finstas, it's less about creating a fake account and more about creating a smaller private account to speak to a number of close friends. so the idea that you have to be less polished, you can be a little bit more real on it versus your main account. >> oh, okay. thanks for clarifying that. i might do a finsta, we'll see. thank you so much, dr. kali cyrus and erin woo. coming up, why production on shows you love to binge could be coming to a screeching halt. some of the entertainment industry say working conditions need to change now. we're going to have that discuss coming up next. coming up next ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ now, we all know progressive offers 24/7 protection, but we also bundle outdoor vehicles with home and auto to help people save more! 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over 90% of their members voted to strike should send everybody who's on the executive side should be a little shook at these studios. >> thanks for having me, and by the way my local 99.2% of the members voted for a strike authorization. and i want to thank ms. brown for her support, which we're feeling from a lot of actors and directors across the entire industry. so the fight for us right now is about safety. safe working conditions, reasonable rest periods, you know, we have members who have lost their lives. we have members since we started bargaining, we've had a few members who have had car accidents having fallen asleep after long days, and that's what the fight is about. >> and that doesn't seem like an unreasonable thing to ask for, john. i want to talk a little bit about this letter that the union wrote to studios and i think it makes a really good point that the past year has shown that when employers and crafts people work together to confront world safety threat, it's possible to protect everyone on our sets and successfully complete the most ambitious projects. it is past time to use that same intelligence and resources now proven to be available to increase daily rest periods and implement weekend rest periods to ensure the physical and mental health of every member on the crew. this does not seem unreasonable. part of this i think this is important for people to understand, the contracts you guys are working off of is a bit antiquated. it still treats streaming services like this is new media and, you know, we don't really know how long this is going to be around. you look at legacy media, streaming is quite frankly, the go-to resource for entertainment now. are the studios in a position to meet you -- meet your demands? >> yes, and by the way, it's not a money issue. it's a safety issue. people like to frame it as a money issue, people on the other side of the table. i heard that the definition of a cynic is somebody who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing, and that really defines their behavior at the bargaining table as far as i'm concerned. what we're talking about is planning, and planning results in safe working conditions. people just need enough rest so that they can do the work, you know, we want to do this work. my members want to do this work. nobody wants a strike. but we want to do it safely, and we want to maintain healthy relationships with our friends and loved ones, and we want to not die on the road after working. >> yeah. >> that's not unreasonable, and yvette -- >> can i say -- >> sure, go ahead. >> what i want to say is we've learned over the last few years in this nation is that people put profits over people, right? the thing about it is why shouldn't i be able to go home and go to sleep. people may ask why are people saying yes to doing these jobs. with actors they act like we're precious and special and nobody can do what i do. they act as if these craftsmen are not as specialized or important. either you do these 12 hours or 16 hours or we'll get somebody else to do it. we need to understand that they're as special and perfect at their jobs as i am at mine and we need to value their contributions the same way actors are valued. they need to have safe working conditions, period. >> everybody does, yvette. like this is so ridiculous that this is even a fight. and let me say if this industry strikes, it will be felt industry wide really, and look, as a consumer of these programs, we are so grateful for producing this content. it allows us to escape the monstrosity that we see every day and eavesdrop on someone else's life and feel these stories and be brought onto set. it's crucially important. i know this is close and near and dear to you yvette because not only are you a wonderful actress, you're also a director, so you have a unique lens on knowing the value of a crew. >> yes, the important thing that i learned first time directing, i have a film debuting tonight on bet, part of a breast cancer awareness thing that we're going to, you know, promote later, but i learned that the importance of a director is to walk on set and make sure everybody is okay. you set the tone for how everyone lives and breathes on that set. either everyone's important or nobody's important. so this idea of this dividing line that's in hollywood that only certain people matter, only certain people deserve a good wage. only certain people deserve to be able to go to sleep at a good time and drive safely home is crazy. and that's why i am here with the lash on at 8:00 something in the morning in l.a. to make sure they know i am standing with them, i support them, and i believe what they're asking for is not a big deal. this is -- can we just be okay? can we just have fair wages, be able to sleep and be protected the same way everybody else is protected? >> and we the consumers beg, please, give these hardworking folks what they want. thank you so much yvette nicole brown and john linley, you can watch yvette's directorial debut on bet her tonight her short film, the party airs at 10:00 p.m. eastern standard time. thanks so much, yvette. and thanks john. coming up next, why bitcoin is so popular among black and brown investors and what that could mean for the racial wealth gap. we'll dig into that after the break. gap. we'll dig into that after the break. then, a mysterious figure reminds her that she has the farmers home policy perk, guaranteed replacement cost. and that her home will be rebuilt, regardless of her limits or if the cost of materials has gone up. 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>> the short answer is crypto has become cool. the part of that is it's become embedded in so many apps, it's accessible. the three things i think are important to understand about crypto is that it's transparent in a lot of ways, it's accessible and it's anti-establishment, which is why it's become so mainstreamed especially in communities of color. look, so for so many people who have been overlooked and underserved by traditional financial institutions and have very little trust in banks, crypto is a very attractive asset class. not to mention it gives people the opportunity for higher than market returns and for those of us who are looking at massive racial wealth gap, the s&p 500 returns about 13% a year, crypto over the last five years has returned 14000%. so this looks like a real opportunity to close the racial wealth gap in a smaller amount of time, and i think that's really the attraction. is it the smartest thing to be? it should absolutely be a part of your portfolio, right? but the problem is that, like anything, you shouldn't put all of your eggs in one basket, right? this is investing 101. we need diversification of your portfolio. you should be invested in equities like stocks. you should be invested in real estate. you should be invested in maybe even your business. there's other forms of alternative assets, and so what happens is that because we weren't really invested in those markets in the first place, right? we are as people of color under invested in equities in real estate, and so this gives us this kind of opportunity to kind of make up for that main red line essentially out of all these other opportunities, be you have to really understand the risk. it's very volatile still. we still have not mainstreamed it. i think it's potential we will eventually mainstream it, but we still have a lot of time to get there. it's extremely volatile still, and you know, it shouldn't essentially be anywhere from maybe 10% to 15% of your portfolio if you also have other types of assets. >> right. >> so that's the key here zblcht well, look, i mean, i don't want to be a commercial for bitcoin here because the scary thing that i hear from some of my friends is they're pulling money out of their 401(k). when you start to dig into these questions, people don't really understand it completely. i would imagine you don't want people investing money they can't afford to lose in this platform. you make a good point about the wealth gap, when we've been so crucially locked out of these spaces, we look for a path to catch up with our counterparts, so it's understandable why people get into it. i don't really understand crypto at all, you know? like i don't -- people talk about it. i even asked them, i don't think other people really understand crypto at all. what are some places where it's not like a commercial but people can at least understand it more. >> essentially crypto is a digital asset that's built on top of a block chain, right? and i actually think block chain is the more interesting aspect of crypto, so bitcoin was built on top of a block chain. ethereum is a block chain. so a lot of people are talking about nfts, which is essentially digital art, right? it's copyright, you're claiming a portion of that copyright, and it is built on top of a rails system called block chain or ethereum. and so for a lot of people, you know, that's an exciting opportunity to buy these al alternative assets. again, it's anti-establishment, it's not regulated by any one institution. >> well, it's not regulated but something that -- sorry to interrupt you, we're running out of time, but it's also something that surprised me about this. this is something that's really appealing to young people but it's terrible for the environment. young people care about the environment, so these two interests to be competing, i don't think enough people know it's horrible for the environment. >> that's right because in essence you're paying what we call a gas fee, which is a mining and transaction fee to actually not only get the bitcoin but then if you are making a transaction, for example, for an nft, you have to pay fees to put that up onto the block chain, and it's essentially like crude oil, right? you've got to pay to mine it, and then you've got to clean it and then you've got to transport it and at the end of the day someone is paying that fee at the gas pump and that fluctuates and that's the same type of thing. it has a carbon footprint. absolutely the two are in contradiction to one another if you're concerned about a footprint and the environment. >> you're great, ramona. you have to come back. i have 8,000 more questions, it's only a two-hour show. thanks so much for breaking it down, and i look forward to having you back really soon chblt. coming up, the unsung heroes of the nfl. football players that actually broke the league's color barrier. we're going to talk about that. and i'm so excited next saturday i want you to join me for a special edition of "the cross connection" live from miami. i'm doing this as hispanic heritage month wraps up, touching on everything from immigration to entertainment. miami's going to be lit, you gase. you don't want to miss it. super emma just about sleeps in her cape. but when we realized she was battling sensitive skin, we switched to tide hygienic clean free. it's gentle on her skin, and out cleans our old free detergent. tide hygienic clean free. hypoallergenic and safe for sensitive skin. ♪ ♪ before you go there, or fist bump there, or... oh! i can't wait to go there! or reunite there, start here. walgreens makes it easy to stay protected wherever you go. schedule your free flu shot and covid-19 vaccine today. okay, now to a subject i know a lot about and that's football. in 1946 one year before jackie robinson would walk onto a field in brooklyn, four black men broke the color barrier in the nfl becoming the first black players in the league in 12 years. you may have never heard their names, kenny washington, woody strode, marion and here to tell that story, nfl analyst, keshawn johnson. welcome to the show. i'm so happy to have you. you know, i was very -- i was not familiar at all with the story because we hear jackie robinson all the time, but we've never heard -- or i've never heard of these four black men. it's strange to imagine the nfl without black players. why was the nfl so against having black folks on the field? >> well, good morning, first of all, tiffany. you know, it's just -- it's like anything in life that we've ever dealt with in our age group, and you go back in the history of time of professional sports. we were not accepted in that world. we were -- this is a book about the reintegration of these four gentlemen that, distinguished black men that, you know, basically paved the way for guys like myself to be accepted into the nfl. prior to that, fitz pollard in 1934, he -- prior to 1934 he was in the nfl, but then there was about a 12-year hiatus that went on from '34 to '46 that they said, no, we don't want african-americans to be a part of what we are building, and the reintegration started because the cleveland rams at the time were moving to los angeles and becoming the los angeles rams, but the memorial, los angeles memorial coliseum is a public funded stadium, and they could not get the lease taken care of or be allowed to play in that stadium unless they signed african-american players onto their team. >> oh, wow. >> and they decided to do so by picking up kenny washington and woody strode. >> so it was profit really. >> big political push. it was a big political push. >> a political push and i want to point out that, you know, this is why there's such credo in the black press because there was actually the press corps that brought this, black sports writer william harding stood up and asked the owner would he be willing to sign black players. i read some of your interviews you've done promoting the book, and you described the nfl being bigoted. i would argue the nfl is still bigoted in a lot of ways. what do you think needs to happen to make changes in the nfl today? >> yeah, i think, you know, you go all the way back and you think about where we are now. there's been some change, moderate change, but not significantly nearly enough to where it makes a major dent. i think, first of all, people of color have to be put in a position of power. we are not in a position of power in the national football league. we don't own any teams. we are very few -- i think it's like a handful of us that are general managers, ceos, presidents of teams. 3% of ceos and presidents. so until we get that number up, we're going to always have some issues when we're not at the table. we've got to be at the table in order for us to be able to delegate some responsibility to people of color, minorities of that magnitude, but that's just not something that the nfl has gotten to just quite yet. >> and what does it take to own a team? i mean, this has been something, the conversation needed to happen for a long time, and it's still such a challenge. there are black people with money out there who can buy a team. it seems like it's a private boys club that they intentionally don't want black ownership in this space. >> i think there's a couple things, tiffany, here's what i would say. first of all, yes, there are black people that are out there with a certain amount of money, but the ownership groups are -- they don't have big turnovers in the nfl like the nba or like maybe major league baseball, for instance. these things are handed down from family and generation to generation. >> right, yeah. >> on top of that, on top of that, us as black people, most of our wealth is generated through athletics and entertainment. yes, we have some ceos of companies and we have some people that are in the internet world and social world and things of that nature, yes, we do but not at large. when you think about some of our wealthiest people, do they want to take their money and invest into a professional football team. >> yes, exactly. >> we think it sounds good, but when they look at the numbers and they do the economics when these things come up, it's almost like, hey, for instance, yes, there is a jay-z in the world who has a billion plus dollars, but then there's another guy who has 7 or 8 billion that looks closer to them, and they say -- >> the football money is their play money. >> right, exactly. >> all right. >> so it's a little bit of a different situation. >> different economics, yeah. >> i can't wait for the day that we do own a team outright. we just got to continue building our wealth. >> yeah, all right. i got five on you keyshawn if you want to go on it together. we are way over time. we'll have to pick up this conversation another time, my friend. please come back on "the cross connection." it was lovely having you. >> thank you. coming up tomorrow, i'm filing in for my friend jonathan capehart on the sunday show. i'll be talking to congresswoman maxine waters. we'll get her thoughts on everything from this debt ceiling to what she's fighting for in the reconciliation bill. you will catch me right back here again tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., while my colleague is off living his best life in rome. so cheers to jonathan. we'll see you in a minute. a mi. ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ as a dj, i know all about customization. that's why i love liberty mutual. to unveil them to the world. they customize my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. how about a throwback? 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