nursing home deaths in the state of new york. we will be following that as well. first, it is the day after. reactions have been pouring in from everywhere to donald trump's new status of being the very first president to be impeached and acquitted twice. there are also lingering questions whether the house could have done anything differently. house manager plaskett said calling witnesses would not have changed a thing. watch this. >> these are not honest people. kevin mccarthy has changed his story multiple times about what happened. prepare pence, his own president came after him and tried to assassinate him. and we are still waiting to hear from him. what does that tell but the fortitude of these individuals? at the end of the day, it wasn't more witnesses that we needed, it was more senators with spines. >> all right. let's get into this w. me now, alley vitale, who is on capitol hill. it has been quite a 24rks 48, 72 -- four years shall we say? we could go on. talk me through what we are hearing today, the day after. i am hearing the words censure used repeatedly, the possibility of that for the former president? >> that's a word you are probably going to be hearing in the coming days as republicans and democrats both try to figure out okay now this we are past the official impeachment part this is there anything else coming in terms of holding donald trump accountable outside of that structure? what is going to be interesting, we are seeing it play out today, republicans seeing two different meanings in what donald trump being acquitted for the second time mean. seven republicans voted with democrats seeing this as a sign that the party needs to move away from trump's influence. others, though, doubling down saying this is the direction of the party and that donald trump remains the leader of the republican party which we will see heading into the 2w50 mid terms. we know he is wanting to get out there. democrats on the other hand, you started to get into this, they are trying to see a upside even though they fell short of the cop vix. this is what we are saying this morning about what this trial means going forward. >> i think it was dramatic success in historical terms. you know, it was the largest impeachment conviction vote in u.s. history. it was by far the most bipartisan majority that's ever assembled in the senate to convict a president. we successfully prosecuted him, and convicted him in the court of public opinion and in the court of history. >> yasmin, censure is one word you might be hearing around here. the other word is going to be covid relief. that's a big part of the reason why democrats didn't want this to be a lengthy trial. it is why when there was a call for witnesses surprisingly yesterday democrats were pretty quick to say that maybe the best way of going about it isn't to go down the rabbit hole of witnesses but to instead put jamie herrera's comment on the record and move past it. it's because they didn't want to jeopardize any part of the dieden agenda. the white house stayed really far away from this publicly. repeatedly when they were asked any said they were not part of it, this was an issue for the senate. but joe biden released a statement after the acquittal yesterday in which he said, while the final vote did not lead to a conviction, the substance of the charge is not in dispute. even those opposed to the conviction, like senator minority leader mitch mcconnell, believe donald trump was guilty of a disgraceful dereliction of duty. i think mcconnell's comments yesterday are interesting, too. clearly, he sided with the majority of his caucus. at the same time he issued a challenge. it will be interesting to see if it bears fruit. he said that donald trump is still liable for his actions while he was in office and that he hasn't gotten away with anything yet. i think he is inquiring into law enforcement officials across the state to dig in. >> i can't help but think listening to -- ali vitali, good to talk to you. how are folks reactingreact? want to go to georgia where the former president remains under investigation for election interference. the acquittal has drawn sharp reactions. talk us through, before we get to the case that is currently in atlanta talk us through kind of the reactions that you are hearing from folks on the ground there. >> yeah, here in fulton county, this is a democratic stronghold, yasmin, you can imagine the kinds of reactions from voters we spoke to yesterday. this held the county, this is the reason georgia turned blue. they said they are disappointed in yesterday's outcome but they are not surprised. they do wonder what it means for the future of politics. even though we had the outcome we did yesterday they feel it was very important for the second impeachment to be pushed through by the democrats for the sake of history, sake of setting an example. they also say when it comes to the outcome they wonder if it will embolden other extremists in the future and other violent attacks. it also means that donald trump is still the leader of the republican. >> it is extremely republican and they totally lack objectivity. >> i think a lot of the republican people who voted with trump don't actually agree with it. they are just looking to get elected in to your. >> it was not surprised. disappointed but not surprised. it is clear there are multiple steps of law. depending who you are -- this is not a race thing. who you are, government. this is one set of laws for them and another set of laws for us. not that -- because he will take that as a win no matter that, you know, there were seven that gave a strong message of condemnation. some surprising, and others not so surprising. mitt romney definitely not surprising. susan collins. sometimes. you never know what you will get from her. some of the republican senators from income and those states -- it was surprising. but yeah, it is going to be a win for him, regardly. >> mark dakous also said trump wakes up emboldened. that's the same of the day. and of course they will be looking into the criminal allegations here in gentlemania moving forward. >> that should be on a t-shirt, corey, for sure. i was talking to ali vitali. she mentioned former leader mcconnell's speech and kind of kicking the can over to the states, right, the criminal investigations currently in certain states across the country. new york being one of them. georgia being one as well. the investigation into election interference essentially trying to overturn the election results in that state. talk us through where we stand right now in that investigation against the former president? >> we are now looking at two investigations here in the state of georgia. the latest one being brought by fulton county district attorney fanny willis sending a letter to governor kemp saying any agencies that have any information regarding the january 2nd phone call keep awful those records because we are going to be doing a criminal investigation. we are launching not just a criminal investigation regarding the january 2nd call. but this is going to be expanded out to include a november call between lindsey graham and raffensperger regarding the mail of ballots. it is also going to include the ousting of the u.s. attorney for the northern district of georgia who didn't want to go along with the overturning of the election results here. it is going to be an expansive investigation by the fulton county's district attorney office. but we are hearing nothing will come out of this until march at the very earliest because they are starting from the beginning and leaving no stone unturned. >> corey kaufman for us. today many on capitol hill are struggling with the question of how to move forward, unite the country, tackle the crisis still devastating america. everyone is can go that question no matter what side you are on. but this morning, listen satisfy graham said president trump is planning his political return to glory. >> you know, he's ready to move on and rebuild the republican party. she's excited about 2022. the trump movement is alive and well. people leave that he brought change to washington policy wise thars long overdue. all i can say is that the most potent force in the republican party is president trump. >> wow. all right. i am joined by democratic representative debbie dingell from washington. thank you for joining us. appreciate it. some startling words from lindsey graham. i can't help but think back to the insurrection on january 6th. when lindsey graham stood up i am not sure whether it was during the day offer during the overnight. lindsey graham stood up and said i am done with this guy. >> consistency with lindsey graham is like consistency with donald trump. you are never sure where he is going to be or what he is going to say. i do believe that trump has a lot of supporters in this country. he's going to try to resurface again in four years for president. and i hope a lot of people will in that period of time see what it means to actually have a national covid strategy, that we are actually going to go out and try to defeat covid. we are going to have calmness. we are not going to be upside down anymore. we are going to stop this fear and hatred. i was disappointed by the results but totally unsurprised by what happened yesterday. and somehow, democrats have just got to -- we've got to listen. i mean there are people -- they are starting to use the word working peel. democrats need to remember to get back to their roots. their working people in the midwest and what issues they care about and be working on those as well. >> i want to go with that for a moment, what you just said. so we've got to listen. because -- i guess i want to know what you mean by that? and do you feel as if you weren't listening up until now? >> four years ago, when -- remember i was one of those few that said that donald trump could get elected. it was because we weren't hearing the issues that were really on the minds of a lot of people when they sat around the dining room table. we weren't talking about those basic issues of jobs, of health care, how are you going to educate your kids, having a safe and secure retirement. and you know, that's what people are still looking for. now, the pandemic has turned this world upside down. and people are scared every single day. you do not understand how scarce you are unless you are out in a state like mine in michigan and people have lost jobs, they -- i mean, food, hunger has become -- the people that i used to collect from food banks before are the ones that need the help now. they can't get a vags nation. it is chaos. how did masks become so political? i think we need space and distance from the chaos of november, the chaos of the impeachment. we need to get some things done. but then we all have to work at how we are going to bring ourselves together. if we don't want to see that chaos return. >> so i am wondering, was this thought process, what you just explained for us -- was this part of the calculation yesterday in coming to the agreement do you think from your understanding what you have been hearing when it comes to witnesses and the senate impeachment trial is this because in a sense f this thing had been extended for weeks upon weeks it may very well have delayed any sort of covid relief, which as you just mentioned millions of americans across this country need right now. >> so, i wasn't in the room. and i want to pay -- i think our impeachment managers did a fab rouse job of presenting the case. it is very clear that those protesters were encouraged to come to the hill. and i do not want anybody to forget that they came to the hill wanting to kidnap, do damage, and kill people. we can never forget that. that's a very big danger. there had been new information -- actually it wasn't quite so new because i had heard those reports before that that's what the president had said. but they knew, first of all the other side was threatening to bring hundreds of witnesses: and it would have been subpoena examines the trial would have gone on for a long time. i don't know ultimately why the sayings wasn't made but i know for the country we need to get joe biden's cabinet in place, reneed to get covid relief and there are a lot of other thing that haven't been done for four years. start with an infrastructure bill. broadband. our kids are struggling. water is a human right. we need to get onto the business of this country. its people have been divided by fear and hatred long enough. >> sure has. appreciate you joining us. >> thank you for having me. happy valentine's day. coming up, with trump's promise to return to political life what does the future of the gop look like is this we will look at that. still ahead, the variant scare, new reports of mutations of covid that appear to be deadlier and more resistant than earlier versions. dr. patel will join us to talk about what this means for the vaccine rollout. we'll be right back. ccine rollo. we'll be right back. did you know that your clothes can actually attract pet hair? 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>> hi yasmin, good morning -- good afternoon, rather. i do think that it is worrisome, but not for -- not for the reasons, probably, that i think that most people are worried. it is worrisome just because we have done such a good job in developing a vaccine that's safe and effective in a short amount of time, and it is concerning as dr. anthony fauci referred to that we could essentially be escaping some of that immunity protection later. i am not worried for today because i do think that it is worthwhile saying that as cases come down we see less and less of the possibility for these variants to spread like wildfires. of course that's contingent on us keeping with all those measures that help the cases come down. but i do worry that the presence of these variants signal that we are going to have this low lying level of covid that we will always have to worry about and that we will need to see probably seasonal vaccines to deal with them. >> okay. so you bring that up. and that's a really good point. i want to talk about that in comparison to the flu vaccine. there were a couple of years ago where there was a different variant of the flu emerging and we were seeing more children dieing from the flu. the year after the new vaccine included that new form of the flu. can we do that with these new variants? 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and if these far right extremist groups field emboldened by the fact that the former president has been acquitted for a second time by the senate? >> it's a great question. to be honest, i have seen similar rhetoric since january 6th although maybe even more right after the insurrection where people were rallying and kind of getting excited about the weekend before the inauguration. law enforcement then stepped in and tamped everything in. they were at capitals at all 50 states. i think for the most extreme in the movemente they took a step back and said let's recalibrate. this morning i was on telegram in in the extreme echo chambers i saw calls for violence on ploys. i didn't see anything towards mike pence, which we saw on january 6th. but it can be kind of random. they are sort the target du jour. one of the things i think is interesting, that's more prevalent is the christian nationalism wound up in the qanon conspiracy theories where on these channels they purport to be against violence. and that's fair enough. but they truly believe that donald trump was ordained by god and something are work out and trust the plan. that kind of language, it continues to this day. that has not really gone away. and i have interviewed quite a few people who were there on january 6th. and that kind of a thinking was a thread that ran through a lot of the conversations i was having, which is interesting. i know you were there. you probably saw some of that as well. in terms of the most extreme, where there are actually calls for violence. we have seen that all along. and it is tough for law enforcement because they don't know who is actually going to act on that. in the past first amendment rights issues have come into play. i saw today calls for violence on nancy pelosi. but it is really tricky. one, it is an anonymous poster or under an alias. and number works you don't know which person is going to act on that. it is tricky, it is tough. i think and militia groups, too, are really -- yeah, go ahead. >> no. i guess -- my next question is kind of twofold in that do you feel as if the government has enough of a handle on these folks, on these people, on these extremists that are kind of in the deep dark web in which you seem to independent could of peruse and see all of these comments on. great for you to do that, by the way. i am happy it is not my job. >> it is not always fun. >> i bet. do they have the capability to accurately monitor those right-wing extremists and bring them to just, seeing how tricky and hard it is, obviously, for someone like you, who has been monitoring these people and identifying who they are? and then secondly, are we sensing that there is a rise, a kind of coming together, a uniting of groups that were not united before? >> yeah, both are good questions. i will answer the first part first. i think that it's been impressive to see all of the arrests, more than 200 arrests. it is actually hard. you can see a photo of somebody's face, but facial recognition software can lead you astray and you can then you can think you have the right person, and then you don't. so there were hundreds of thousands of tips that came into the fbi and they had to wade through those. but those were probably helpful. and i actually do think that they have increasingly, over time, gotten better. but the trump administration also wanted to kind of eescalate the scrutiny on these far right groups. so there were some miscommunications between agencies in terms of like, okay, far right extremism is probably the biggest threat. but should we go after that? and a lot of career people, you know, they have been sig seeing this as an increasing threat over the years and have wanted to and might have been hamstrung. but i think after january 6th, i think everybody gets this is a huge issue. in terms of groups coming together, certainly, i think we have all been -- we have all been watching these militia groups coordinate with each other and become emboldened and show up more in the last few years than we have in the past. so that's really something that we are watching. >> i just want to repeat something that you just said, which is really troubling in that trump wanted to deescalate the scrutiny of these far-right groups. that's a question that i think we need to continue to ask as to why. anna schechter, thank you. and thank you for the reporting that you are doing on this. appreciate it. all right, let's talk the bachelor, everybody. chris harrison, host of the bachelor, announcing he is going to be stepping aside from the show. harrison faced criticism this week after he seemed to defend past racist behavior of a bachelor contestant during an interview with extra. rachel was shown attending a plantation-themed from turnt event. he said by excusing it i defended it. by words were harmful and i am listening and i apologize for my ignorance. one of the most viral issueswas spoofed on "snl." a tiktok video of a girl who used gorilla glue on her hair when she ran out of hair spray. >> we have all been there. you ran out of hair product and you found gorilla glue instead. >> if this has happened to you, you are not align. and this is not your fault. >> and you are not dumb. >> every day, as many as one people fall victim to using gorilla glue in place of a beauty product. and they deserve compensation. >> all right. we are happy to report the real life tessica brown got the blew out of her hair. look at the stories we are reporting on when donald trump is no longer president. coming up, back to school again. new guidelines raising new questions about students and teachers returning to the classroom. plus the new york governor now under investigation. how he is defending his administration's reporting of nursing home deaths. >> but who cares? 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33, 28, died in the hospital, died in a nursing home -- they died. >> often praised for his leadership early on in the pandemic, the governor is now coming under fire and tackling a new crisis. >> all right. that was kathy park reporting. thank you to kathy for that. with students and teachers itching to get back into the classroom safely the cdc unveiled its highly anticipated sweeping new guidance on just how schools can reopen for in-person learning. so far, the update has sparked mixed reaction and confusion among some parents and teachers as well. gary gom bach is outside a school in vingfield virginia for us, near washington, d.c. gary, good to see you this afternoon. talk us through exactly what is different about some of these new cdc guidelines and how parents and educators there in fairfax specifically have been reacting. >> it was a 35-page document released on friday how to get students back into schools safely. it was based on a color-coded tier system. the red zone, they call it would be where there is substantial community spread. it means 10% or more of a positivity rate in that community. what they are saying is for folks in that red zone they would like high schools and middle schools to be completely virtual but they would like the elementary schools to be in person, six feet apart, and wearing masks. now you may ask, wait, am i in a red zone? 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i think so? >> matt, yes. >> it is an interesting take because we know trump doesn't have the megaphone he once had, twitter, and so much of his directions to his followers came on twitter, basically. nonetheless there is a sphere of folks in the republican party, the mitch mcconnells who seemed like he wanted to disassociate himself from trump during the vote yesterday. and then lindsey graham who is going golfing with him in the coming days. >> it is important to have three different voices around a round table. they are diverse. it's not an amen corpsous. they can be from different realms. it is typical to have a senator, a congressman a governor, a very prominent journalist and say a policy person f. the vibe is right -- that's my job -- it can really sort of soar. it is 40 minutes of discussion that i think is little looser and more dynamic. the conceit here is that we are all in our favorite booth in our favorite bar in the back and really being candid. you know, we get a lot of great reviews but the ones that gratify me the most who say you know, i think about this a little bit different now or it really kind of changed my mind. the round table effect of it and the conversation with people who are typically never together, sometimes they are from cnn, i think is the hallmark of the podcast. >> it is a good podcast. if you haven't taken a listen, do. we are always looking for a good vibe. we have got to get the vibe right. >> that's my job. >> harry will itman, good talking to you. you can tune in and subscribe to talking feds wherever you get your podcasts. the next episode will include lawrence o'donnell and ashley parker next monday. let me know about the podcasts that you love, send me your suggestions on twitter @yasmin v. we are doing this every week. come up in our next hour legal trouble looming. that's the big question. a second acquittal in the senate doesn't mean the president is off the took. he has cases looming in new york, georgia, and a lot more. we will talk about the impeachment coming up, plus the future of the gop. our power panel is going to break down how the fractured party moves forward as trump teases a possible political return. we'll be right back. turn we'll be right back. aah! ok. i'm on vibrate. aaah! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ the lexus es, now available with all-wheel drive. this rain is bananas. lease the 2021 es 250 all-wheel drive for $349 a month for thirty six months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. for $349 a month for thirty six months. introducing new advil dual action. the first and only fda approved combination of advil + acetaminophen. advil targets pain acetaminophen blocks it. new advil dual action fights pain for up to 8 hours. >> man: what's my safelite story? 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