[shouting questions] >> lowering gasoline prices. >> thank you very much. [shouting questions] mr. president. >> thank you very much. >> the press conference. >> jesse: the white house getting called out for putting biden in the presidential witness protection program and things are getting so bad that even the left-wing associated press is knocking biden for falling short on transparency and avoiding important questions. in fact, biden has done fewer news conferences and interviews in the last -- then the last five presidents and it's not even close. biden is held nine news conferences since taking office compared to trump's 22 and obama's 27. he is outpacing the others with 200 informal q&as. the white house says biden is always eager to talk. >> he takes questions multiple times a week. his schedule has quite packed. hopefully we'll be able to add local interviews. this president has done 140, maybe 150 short q&as where he takes questions from the press. typically a couple times a week. it's not accurate to suggest that he isn't accessible or doesn't answer questions. >> jesse: dana, i don't like the way they fudge these numbers. these informal q&as? this is what they count as an informal q&a? he leaves marine one. he stops by. how is build back better going. he says it's going well and then he walks away and it is counted as an informal q&a. if you take that outcome he's barely talking to the press at all. >> dana: if i could start by saying we are going to celebrate your news at the end of the show. everyone, stick around. we are thrilled for you when we are going to have a chance to talk about it. prime time. hell hath no fury like a d.c. media scorned. they have a right to be. this is the campaign, the biden campaign promised to return to normal and i have a feeling a lot of people in the press corps don't think this is very normal, especially if you look at those numbers. carting informal q&as really does feel like a cop-out. there's a little bit of risk assessment seems to be going on in the white house. is it better to put him out there to take questions or not? is it better to have stories like this lead "the five" saying that he's not taking enough questions rather than have him take questions and cause perhaps additional problems? there's a calculation that you have to make which is why would we put the president out today? what message are we trying to deliver? and he sealed the deal and advanced legislative agenda? can he move joe manchin by doing an interview in west virginia? can you think the answer is ask those questions, doing the calculations and decide that they would much rather start off "the five" with this story rather than something else. >> jesse: katie, doesn't he have to create a story arc for his presidency? he has to do that himself rhetorically. no one is going to do it for him. and he's the most powerful man in the world. he's got to tell us what his presidency is all about. >> katie: he has trouble defending his presidency. he has trouble defending the fact that democrats are at odds with his agenda including moderate democrats, when he ran as a moderate. he has a very difficult time justifying what he's been trying to push through congress or when he has done with executive orders through the press. it's interesting throughout his presidency for the last year, which is not typical, jen psaki, the press secretary, often briefs on the same day that joe biden gives a big speech or does a press conference, which is strange. usually would allow the president's words to stand for themselves. she is always on standby to clean up or to answer further questions or to clarify maybe what the president meant if he stumbled doesn't say something that's quite accurate, which he has done a number of times. dana is right, it's all about risk and cost benefit to him going out there and saying something that jen psaki has to clean up for an entire week we saw this with the last summer when the infrastructure bill and the spending bill where it was being debated for the first time in joe biden's that he wasn't going to sign either one of them must they came together, even though he had just negotiated with republicans they would be separate bills and they spent an entire week trying to clean that up. when it comes to the press, i don't know what they expected. this is what joe biden did on the campaign trail. he was in his basement. he never took questions. president trump held press, just for hours on end, so long that they ran out of questions and yet they spent all their energy attacking him instead of being grateful for the access praise >> neil: they help elect a guy and then they complain that the guy they helped elect isn't talking enough. >> greg: that's part of their game. they have to look like they are perturbed. remember how much stuff, how much stuff we learned under trump, whether we liked it or not? because he did everything in front of you. he was like those loud parents were all the kids can hear all the fights. he was doing it in real time and it was just the press -- it wasn't just the press interviews. it was pulling back the curtain by not just the press asking him questions but he was asking everybody else questions. figuratively pulling back the curtain while joe has the blinds drawn and the curtains are close to and the white house is as transparent as frosted mud. i want to do an analogy. it's been a long time since i've done that analogy. if the presidency were a car, donald trump would be like a convertible doing buggy. you can see in all, going up and down the dunes, like the banana splits. joe biden is like a black suv with illegal tinted windows. you can't see in but they can see out. the whole key is you are not supposed to know who's actually driving the suv. every day we knew who was driving the dune buggy. crazy man with the orange hair. but now we don't know what's going on. we don't know who's in control and they want to keep it that way. meanwhile, joe is like the last customer at a diner who was oblivious to everybody waiting around wanting to leave. there's inflation. there is crime. school lockdowns paredes having the best time because he's completely unaffected by these problems. he's just happy to have the soup. >> jesse: have another cup of coffee. harold, who is driving the suv? >> harold: first off, congratulations. the metaphor that greg used with the cars. every president tries to manage his coverage. some have been more successful than others. w had success. reagan had success. i think as you think about biden, i think one of the things that he's having the biggest challenge with, you and katie nailed it when he said others are defining his presidency. he is letting others deliver the message and deliver the message around his message. the presidency is really about developing, to your point, jesse, narrative, a compelling one, a constant one. changing and adjusting some of the circumstances and some of the press may change or facts may change around something but you have to have a compelling vision for why you want to be president. and you should be organized around it. otherwise people will define it for you. take build back better. it was a heap of money in the minds of people who were really opposed to it. people really didn't understand what was in it. those who were against it defined it as a big grab for climate change when in fact there are other things there. individually they measure up and they measure well with the country. i think they should take and learn from it, understanding 215 or whatever it was, 216 informal q&as. more time trying to define the presidency, defined the narrative and allow the president's values and motives come out as he's explaining and as he's defending and trying to gather support within his own party and obviously with independents and republicans alike. >> jesse: initially the narrative was that he was going to be the virus and then he failed, so what are we talking about? looks like jen psaki is the one driving me tinted out suv. >> greg: congratulations, jesse. >> jesse: thank you, greg. >> greg: i guess i don't know what it's about that we will have to wait till the end of the show. >> jesse: coming up, never ending covid confusion. wait until you hear the bombshell admission from the cdc director. ♪♪♪ my name is austin james. as a musician living with diabetes, fingersticks can be a real challenge. that's why i use the freestyle libre 2 system. with a painless, one-second scan i know my glucose numbers without fingersticks. now i'm managing my diabetes better and i've lowered my a1c from 8.2 to 6.7. take the mystery out of managing your diabetes and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free at freestylelibre.us as a professional bull-rider i'm used to taking chances. but when it comes to my insurance i don't. i use liberty mutual, they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. wooo, yeaa, woooooo and, by switching you could even save 665 dollars. hey tex, can someone else get a turn? 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basically we can only trust ourselves. >> dana: the cdc director is saying things that you used to get band on twitter for saying. i admire the fact that she's decided to get somebody to help her on media relations and communications. she's great scientist and probably a great doctor. communicating to the public is not necessarily everyone's strong suit so i'm for that. so one of the things they should tell her in one of those sessions is a little humility can go a long way. imagine if they started every press conference by saying this is a novel virus. we are continuing to learn things every day. we are going to share with you what we have. it might not be all the information we are continuing to learn as we go along. we will keep you informed. all information welcome, something like that to give people a sense they are doing that. it's one thing for the cdc director. sure you have a supreme court justice. sonia sotomayor who is basically getting her covid information from the bottom of the facebook comments page and she is going to rule on something that really matters? at a point when the vaccine mandate was for the delta variant and is now obsolete. because the vaccines don't help with omicron. that's what everybody's getting. apparently pfizer says there vaccine for omicron will be ready in march. that might be helpful for next year but we are going to get the peak of this in the middle of the month. i think the white house would be better off withdrawing the mandate because they are going to take a loss in the supreme court and for what? it might actually hurt them in the long run when it comes to federal agency overreach. that might be a good thing for conservatives. if i were in the white house fighting fires everywhere, i would take that off the table. >> greg: dana is right. maybe omicron has slayed the vaccination mandate argument. we knew that it was unconstitutional but it seems like, how are they going to argue this now and the people who are double and triple vaxxed are spreading it? >> katie: right. slayed the argument. hasn't necessarily change the behavior of government officials like in new york for example or at the white house who just today continued to justify the vaccine mandates for the postal workers who have said we are having a hard time delivering mail. you want us to send out 500 million tests and we are short-staffed because of the mandate and they said they are not going to budge. when it comes to the cdc, there's no way at this point that they can call back to credibility. and it all started when they started counting covid cases, with or from covid in the sense that hospitals were getting paid more money to have covid patients in the hospital so they tested everybody for covid whether you were in the hospital or whether you were there for a car accident, for example. therefore all the data got jumbled together. how do they go back now and determine the guy in florida who was counted, he was in a motorcycle accident, counted as a covid death. actually he died because he got in a motorcycle accident. or the people in colorado who died from gunshot wounds who were counted as covid deaths but they actually dined with covid, not from covid. there's no way they can go back through all the data from all the health departments all over the country and make a determination about with or from. as greg said, everybody has to be able to make their own decisions about their own risk. let everybody move on with their lives. >> greg: herald, you said greg, you're probably the only person who has gotten everything right on covid. i appreciated you saying that. i wanted to make sure everybody else heard it. when we look back at this, how much of the information do you think will turn out to be true? will we ever really know what we want to know? how many deaths really were there? how many do to covid? can we admit we may never know this stuff. >> harold: i hope you don't share all the things we talk about in the green room. i do hope were able to get to the bottom of some of the things you're talking about. i think some of the data we may never know, much like we may never know the origins or be able to study this virus from its start. it's one of the first viruses we really didn't have a sense, because our virologists and epidemiologists and doctors were not able to be on the ground there in china in this regard. one thing the public health officials have all agreed on, whether they be ones that we find agreement with or disagreement with or ones who've been around longer than others, it's that everyone should be vaccinated. i think to dana's point, the omicron variant certainly seems to evade or elude the vaccine but i think public health officials alike have all said that the vaccines real value is reducing hospitalization and death. are there a number of people who may have died with the covid designation because i had some other morbidity, the tour got an accident. one thing that we do know is people dying in hospitals are not those who have been double vaxxed. and those who have been boosted. i feel for dr. walensky. i do hope they get hers to media training. i hope she listens. >> greg: i would rather have a surgeon good with a knife rather than a microphone. we are about 20 minutes away from jesse's big news. i can see that we have the musicians. the musicians are here. just put the drums over there. tube right there. anyway, last word to you, mr. watters. >> jesse: i was going to say great with a mic and a knife. the government is good at two things: fighting wars and collecting taxes. if covid had been hiding money from the irs, we would have beaten the crap out of it. if covid was an enemy battalion, would've bonded to smithereens but covid is invisible in the government set for two years said we have all the answers but they didn't have any answers. and for some reason people still continue to believe government is holier-than-thou when government is basically a bunch of political appointees who oversee bureaucrats who can't fire and they just nag you and nag you until you obey them and you disobey them and they find you. so at this point we are wondering how long do you have to be -- how wrong do you have to be before we doubt everything you say. at one point they said plastic dividers needed to be installed all over the country. useless. the 6 feet social distancing number, they meted up. it was arbitrary. back in the day used two question the hospitalization numbers come east to be called a conspiracy theorist. now have people that are in the hospital, they happen to have covid. doctors right now are prescribing people ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and you don't hear about that in the media right now. i don't know. i think the cdc was saying that schools were supposed to be opened and then they get a call from the teachers union and then they slow things down and now all of a sudden they say you know what, we are changing the guidelines because the science is fast-moving. wait a second. you said the science was settled. you said if you question the science, you were a science denier. that's why we don't like the government because they treated us like chumps if we just asked a question. by the way they also funded the risky research at the sloppy wuhan lab and covered it up. so no, frustrated with the scientist. >> greg: there you go. coming up, a radical day shocked by the blowback about his order to go soft on criminals. hi, i'm steve and i live in austin, texas. i work as a personal assistant to the owner of a large manufacturing firm. i've got anywhere from 10 to 50 projects going at any given time. i absolutely have to be sharp. let me tell ya, i was struggling with my memory. it was going downhill. my friend recommended that i try prevagen and over time, it made a very significant difference in my memory and in my cognitive ability. i started to feel a much better sense of well-being. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. welcome to the next level. this is the all-new lexus nx. with intuitive tech... 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glide it you walk into office without any problem? why did you have to take all that money. how is it that on your first day in office you decide andrew cuomo doesn't deserve any sort scrutiny or prosecution to what happened with the nursing homes. how did you decide that on the first day? someone ought to follow the money back on that. >> katie: greg, i think this guys totally finding the new face of the crime wave because his ideology of believing, allowing criminals to run free, it's their version of social justice. >> greg: i actually do believe that he thinks there's nothing wrong with anything he is saying. because it's coming from a belief that criminals are the real victims and actual victims are just collateral damage from a society that's plagued by endemic racism. we talked about it, including the christmas tree arsonist, there are mentally ill people on these streets, new york city especially. bragg is using that to benefit the hardened street criminal. mentally ill people are not robbing banks. mentally ill people are not breaking into homes. they are not assaulting women. some of them, some of them are doing some pretty crazy stuff, but there are a lot of criminals that are taking advantage of i guess kind of like the absentee landlord that's taken over our cities. everything that comes out of the sky's mouth is lacking in wisdom. it's like he never met a real criminal or he's never witnessed a violent crime. his knowledge seems to come from the classroom, the professor. these are the people who end up ruining society when you mentioned de blasio. i am pessimistic that i know that harold has talked about eric adams. i keep hoping for it, that things will return. but i don't know. i look around and i feel like new york city is one city, like minneapolis and others, permanently scarred. if you cannot stop the moderate to severe crime, then criminals are going to keep seeing how further they can push it along and push it along. if we can't even stop that level of crime, then you're not -- it can't actually get better. it can only get worse. we set a new level of what we are willing to accept. it used to be down here and now it's up here. if you don't arrest this stuff, it's only going to get worse. we have to return to the broken window philosophy but i have a feeling we won't. >> katie: harold, how do you see the battle between the d.a. and the mayor and the police chief? >> harold: i differ with greg at the end. i think his frame is right. if we don't do these things, new york won't come back. never bet against new york. i live in and my kids go to school and i vote in new york and i think if esther bragg had said this during the campaign i wouldn't have voted for him. you would think that mayor adams would say i think mayor adams and his police commissioner, they are committed to the things we have articulated. i would hope and encourage the d.a. to think about changes to bail reform. think about a coalition or partnership with the city and others around making the subways safer. to greg's point and points we have made many times on the show, we need a mental health initiative, a real one, a serious one to address these issues. dressing and starting off this way i think is an inefficient start. i don't think mr. hell's thought this through. i he's a smart guy.>> katie: tribn for bob saget after his sudden death and new details on what happened. >> woman: what's my safelite story? 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i am with bob saget. tell him i said hi and you can hear them say tell him to go f himself. my point being that bob saget probably would hate tributes about this. even though he played the nice guy, he had a dirty, dirty mind. anybody who knows who will tell you. he was a sick, sick guy. so for his sake, i want to say that i am sad that he died because i wish it could have been kinkier, tied to the bed, surrounded by hookers. >> harold: dana, were you a fan of "full house post quote? >> dana: topics. i liked full house. to this day one of my favorite shows is "america's funniest home videos." great sunday night. just a terrific show and a great talent who obviously will be very missed. >> harold: katie, you're the youngest on the panel. what are your thoughts on bob saget? >> katie: i grew up in a household where we didn't have satellite television until i was a teenager sawyer were watching "america's funniest home videos" we had three or four channels and you had to catch it at the right time and also loved bob saget on that show. i also loved seeing the people who worked with him giving him tributes because it's clear he was a funny guy on the screen and often that he treated the people that he worked with really, really well. it's heartbreaking to see all of that, losing their friend and their coworker. >> harold: jesse, he was a father and a family man. has to be tough for his family. what are your thoughts on this day about bob saget? >> jesse: because i didn't have a very active social life in middle school, i spent every friday night watching "full house." it was a great show and i looked at the ratings. eight seasons and averaged 15 million viewers in episode. that's a lot. and then he parlay set into "america's funniest home videos" which was the first viral video show ever. this was preinternet. home videos that people shot on a camcorder. people falling down. animals falling down. or animals making people fall down. for people with a really lowbrow sense of humor, i loved it. then the audience got to vote on who the best video was and then they get a cash price. that had a nine year run. there was a time from the late '80s to the mid-'90s where bob saget was watched for hours on television by tens and tens of millions of people. that's why people love him so much. i think a lot of people miss him. >> harold: i think you're right. rest in peace, bob saget. coming up, jesse watters world just got a whole lot bigger. very exciting news about jesse that you're going to want to hear. ♪ limu emu and doug.♪ and it's easy to customize your insurance at libertymutual.com so you only pay for what you need. isn't that right limu? 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[laughs] i think fox is going to look back at this and say it's the best programming decision that they have ever made. either the best or the worst, one or the other. it's the best thing or the worst decision. >> greg: you are destroying "the five." our ratings are going to come out at 4:30 p.m. every day and when i beat you, you're going to be sad. when you beat me, i'm not going to speak to the entire show. it's terrible. >> jesse: if you want gutfeld to speak less, watch. >> dana: jesse, did you think about putting an exclamation point at the end of "prime time?" >> jesse: i wanted to cope and someone is working on it. >> harold: congrats. performance, skill, talent matters and you've been rewarded. i couldn't be prouder for you. i hope you don't use the perks to come after me. >> jesse: i am not going to lay a glove on you. you're safe. >> dana: katie? >> katie: harold, i would ask what you said and say jesse, you've earned it. we are so happy for you. i have some advice about your hair. don't let them do it twice a day. you'll damage it. keep the hair strong. i look forward to the jesse and greg wagers throughout the week everything will day which i'm sure we will not get annoyed about at all. >> jesse: i'm not competing with gutfeld. i'm up against "wheel of fortune," whoever is hosting "jeopardy." >> dana: jesse, what did jesse jr. say when he heard the news? >> jesse: he wants an assistant, jesse jr.. i told johnny that johnny now has to have an assistant because you have to go through johnny's assistant to get to johnny to get to me. >> dana: it's going to be great, two weeks from today. we will see that show when it starts on the 24th. 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[train horn] >> katie: the officers rushed in to pull the pilot out of the plane and within seconds the metro link train ran over the plane, luckily the pilot was taken to the hospital, is now in stable condition with injuries that could have been so much worse. thank god for those officers jumping n the nick of time to save him. >> jesse: lapd to the rescue. >> greg: incredible. >> jesse: we have to give them props when they do good stuff like that. and that's what we do on "the five." greg, where is your fish? >> greg: relaxing a lot of people said he looked lonely. i was told he cannot be around other fish. like me i eat it. i cannibalize other panelists. he has to be alone apparently. >> jesse: we miss him. and want to see more of america's fish. >> greg: abe about will be back better than every ever. he was going to host "special report." >> jesse: don't forget to feed him. "special report" is up next. >> bret: i welcome the fish. jesse, congratulations. now you are going to tell me i'm going to accept to you and toss to you at the end. >> jesse: yes, it's like a reverse flee flicker. >> bret: like a jesse sandwich. >> jesse: take a bite. >> bret: save goodbye. >> jesse: bye-bye. >> bret: good evening, welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. breaking tonight president biden has just announced in a new mandate requiring health insurance companies pick up theb for at home covid tests. private insurance would pick up 8 over-the-counter dove e. covid tests per week a family of four

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