their supply chain crisis threatens the holiday season an inflation is impacting every da items. using it, gas prices skyhigh, now at a seven-year high bright we've got it covered for you this hour. >> we begin with a spy novel playing out in real life. a navy engineer nuclear submarine a peanut butter sandwich and a history teacher moonlighting as a lookout. some of the details in a stunning case brought against a cup eyal and maryland allegedly trying to sell u.s. submarine secrets. i'm john roberts in washington. sandra, great to see you. >> you just can't make that one up. i am sandra smith in new york. jonathan and diana seems like your standard suburban couple. the fbi alleges they had a secret, a plan to steal classified information on u.s. nuclear submarine technology an sell it to a foreign nation rea the couple is facing charges of betraying the atomic energy act. >> we are looking closer at the social media and learning more details about the husband and wife. fox team coverage starts now. former deputy national security adviser katie mcfarland is standing by. >> to the pentagon national security correspondent jennifer griffin she has the details of the spirit. >> the two accused spies, jonathan and diana appeared separately in a west virginia courtroom two hours ago. both we're shackled and an orange prison jumpsuit, they both sat alone without legal representation according to jak gibson he was in the courtroom. the judge ordered that both receive public defenders very jonathan come at the navy nuclear engineer stood before the judge for five minutes at 11:00 a.m. and then his wife diana as schoolteacher stood fo five minutes at 1110. their neighbors in annapolis didn't suspect a thing. >> they didn't talk to anybody even on the block. they moved here in 2014 and bee up and down this box many times we would see them and never eve say hi. they don't even catch your eye. >> jonathan was a nuclear engineer at naval reactors here not far from the pentagon. they board the name please in exchange for crypto currency to a person -based thoughts represented a foreign power. in fact that person was an undercover fbi agent. the couple has two children and lives in a quiet neighborhood i annapolis and drove a mini cooper. they were arrested last weekend at a dead drop site in west virginia. the card was wrapped in plastic and placed between twos life is a bright on half of a peanut butter sandwich, the half sandwich was housed inside of a plastic bag. according to their social media post his wife diana posted pro black lives matter and nt trump fans on facebook great a detention hearing is set for friday at 10:00 a.m. and a probable cause hearing for october 20th. they did not enter a plea. they face a maximum life sentence. >> jennifer griffin live on the pentagon with that story for us. >> let's bring in former deputy security advisor in the complaint from the doj, the foreign entity that these folks were allegedly trying to sell u.s. secrets to listed only as country number one, who do you think would be interested in information like that? we could say may be somebody going to go up against the u.s. submarine to submarine like china or russia, but the new york times is suggesting becaus there was cooperation with the investigation, it might have been an ally. >> here's the thing. every one of these clues rakes in a different direction per china would be the most obvious beneficiary of any information about u.s. submarine technology because if we had a war with china it would be in the south china seas and. the on the other hand, as you point out, is it really going t be up to china to report to us that one of our employees is trying to pass secrets to china? that doesn't sound like china. first father not going to do it. the chinese have the most sophisticated espionage operation in the united states. i can't see them trusting some suburban guys putting secrets i a peanut butter and jelly sandwich or in a band-aid box. that doesn't sound quite right, but if it's an ally, why is he offering secrets to an ally? who even have nuclear powered submarines that this might be beneficial to or sophisticated diesel powered submarines. everything points in the wrong direction and a different direction. the bottom line as the fbi didn't catch this guy. they would not have known about this if the country that had no come forward and said hey, america, hey, fbi, you have a problem, somebody's trying to sell us secrets about you're most sophisticated submarine technology. >> we know france's upset of th united states with australia, but according to the new york times, france said it wasn't us. but the information that jonathan toebbe and diana toebb we're trying to sell was about the virginia class attack submarine which is our new most modern high-tech submarine or the information was about the nuclear propulsion system which toebbe worked on for the navy. what kind of information bonanz would that be for somebody who is a potential adversary or eve an ally of ours? >> it's a dealbreaker and any kind of a contract for this is submarine that could carry nuclear weapons, or conventiona weapons, but they key to this kind of nuclear powered submarine is they can be underwater for months, even years because it has self-sustaining energy system and it's also silent. it's the one weapon system that could attack an adversary or defend against an adversary where the adversary doesn't see it coming, doesn't hear it coming until it's too late. this is the crown jewel of american nuclear technology right there be a hit. >> you know come out when you look at the money that was involved. a grand total of $100,000 for the first two drops, that's not a lot of money if you've got th keys to the kingdom when it comes to a nuclear submarine. him wondering what this was all about. was this the beginning of what they thought would be a long lucrative relationship, or was this more about ideology? apparently the wife at least is pretty political. >> again, the clues all point i different directions. if they wanted to get rich off of it or if they had outstandin debts or if they were compromised in some way, you ca see that kind of relationship. it looked like a normal suburba trouble. two kids, not a very fancy car in the driveway, so what was their motive, and if the motive was anti- trump, well, what the were doing was anti- u.s., not anti- trump. that was putting american national security in danger, no just screwing up donald trump's chances for reelection. >> are we thinking dead drops, we think of manila envelopes, w don't think of peanut butter sandwiches. >> wheat that's again why i'm a little suspicious of the whole thing. if it was china, it would've been far more sophisticated tha that. >> it wouldn't of been universally much. may be a snickers bar. good to talk to you. >> thank you, john. >> fox news alerts. the coroner where gabby petito body was found last month, is a set to hold a news conference. we will get the full details an the final autopsy report. we spent a lot of time spending time reporting. just a moment to go off-camera was asking you have met and interviewed the parents. it this incredible dark period for their family. will they get answers? >> i believe they welford this is what we've been waiting for is the final autopsy reports. we knew the manner of death was homicide, but we are expected t hear the cause of death and mor on the timing of when she died which we'll be key as they look to tie the person they believe responsible to her murder. gabby petito's remains were found on december september 19th . the last known sighting of her was at that tex-mex restaurant in jackson on august 27th where witnesses say they saw her arguing with her fiancé and travel partner brian laundrie and he was arguing with restaurant staff that they according to patrons. remains were discovered roughly 30 miles down the road within the spread creek campground in near where a fellow travel blogger had spotted a white van in the critical timeframe of when the couple was last seen and then when brian b-17 returned to florida. investigators remain silent on every part of the case includin what could be crucial clues in that body cam footage recorded during that traffic stop in moab , utah appeared that's when they asked her about a physical altercation that was witnessed between the two of them on august 12 in moab he admitted that he hit her and grabbed her and scratched her face during the public fight while also admitting that she hit him as well. i spoke with friends who tells me in addition to the death, we should hear information on toxicology reports that there was evidence of a struggle and if there was any evidence of prior injuries before her death, bruises and cuts from injuries that would show some kind of healing. >> i was just thinking looking back at your coverage of this story, and i think one of the things that stands out, obviously the manhunt for her fiancé continues, but just the parents and how they have just blown off the investigation. they have not participated. i just wonder having met now with the parents of gabby petito , what do they think about that? what was their relationship wit that family and those parents. >> i asked them about that. i asked them if they had their numbers and their phone if they exchange christmas cards or tha can think she was living with brian laundrie's parents. that was the first phone call they made. they found it odd and they really held back when i asked them what they thought about their silence. not pleased, obviously. >> we will have that full autopsy report at to 30:00 p.m. eastern time. nancy grace will be here to react to that. >> looking forward to all of that ahead of the battle to raise the debt ceiling until th beginning of december not over yet for the houseboats tonight, democrats only have a slim thre vote margin to get it done. the senate passing the legislation last week that increase the nation's borrowing limit after republicans had initially pressed the democrats to go at it alone as a protest against their social policy and climate spending plans. get this as some climate activists argued the biden administration is not doing enough to protect the environment and they rallied fo a second straight day outside the white house to pressure the president to stop approving fossil fuel projects. they are also trying to accost irking on a senator for a third time during the boston marathon yesterday. the group from the senator's home state showed up at that race hoping to press the lawmaker to support the massive social spending plan, also called the build back better build. senators that attended the race but did not run it due to a foo injury. john, it is hard to see where all of this is going to go next but we know the massive spendin plans come at a time when were dealing with a major crisis of inflation and now empty store shelves across the nation. >> you also had a heads up and early heads up that she wouldn' be running that race because yo saw her at a two miler and she was in the boot. >> she was the captain of her team, she was there, but she could not run burge at the boot on and then she had to leave in the middle of all those negotiations back to arizona fo a medical appointment so i don' know what her status is, but it didn't look like she would be able to run the marathon. >> the protesters in boston waiting for her along the race route did not get the memo. double supply chain issues driving up the price of gasolin will also write some products have now concerns are growing that the president's tax and spend plans could make matters worse. we will sound off on that comin up next read. >> looking forward to that. plus on the ground in panama at a migrant camp as hundreds of people are preparing to make th trek to the united states. they are speaking out to fox news about the 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far beyond that. >> as of this morning southwest canceled less than 10 percent o today's flights, nearly one third of southwest flights had to be canceled on sunday. sandra, this is crazy because that's supposed to be the happy airline. to get to your point, and those surveys they always do very wel as far as customer service. .taken. in the meantime, last time they cost this much to take off your virus fears were spreading across the globe and a major ebola outbreak reach the united states. seven years ago, the last time we saw oil and gas prices like what you will find at your loca pump right now according to aaa the average cost of a gallon of gasoline $3.28 a gallon up from a week ago and that is up from $1.77 for a national average in april of 2020. all of this as critics are warning the proposal from the democrats democrats tax-and-spend lien could push the sky high gas prices even further. foxbusiness anchor joins us now. this is a very very real proble because you combine that with the labor shortage, the trucker shortage, the inability to get people to get those containers off the ships, and then when sh got people in the trucks, if you're lucky enough to be able to supply those workers, it's going to cost you that much mor to transport goods. >> a year ago, we were energy independent. remember that phrase, we are energy independent we don't hav to rely on the oil sheiks or russia or et cetera, we were th next exporter of fuel in the world and there's now some question about that. also as you mentioned, a gallon of gas was $2 a gallon. i'm from new jersey. this was exactly a year ago. at think a little less then a year ago. unleaded was $2.05, and it's no what, about 328 dollars. it's unfair to go back a year because that was during the pandemic. yes, there was a slow down, but you look at the same price back in february of 2020. it was $2.35 was the national average. even if you compare it to pre- pandemic, these prices are sky high. job biden told us back in february of 2020, he said we ar going to get rid of fossil fuels . we are essentially trying to kill fossil fuels before scienc is ready. >> i remember the moment. >> but he has announced that, he's killed the pipeline, he's done a lot of things in this ne bill that they are trying to pass through congress the three and a half-$5 trillion bill where a lot of measures in thei would make it more difficult fo oil producers. we have an all out war against fossil fuels, and as a result, the price of fossil fuels is going way up. we are becoming more dependent again on the oil sheiks. >> presidents from both parties over four decades have moved to allow increased oil product and gas exports for joe biden would be the first president since th 1970s to move in the opposite direction per the way to reduce gas prices is by increasing oil supply, that means not sending policies that the administration 's goal is to put the industry out of business. now, to what we are seeing as far as the supply chain crisis and the labor shortage august job openings. rate it's a massive number. 10.4 million job openings for it's a great time to find a job as they told us yesterday, people are just not looking for them. they are not going out to do this. now there is concerns over what this means for christmas. >> supply chains are all messed up because two things, there is one thing that is legitimately you can peg on the pandemic, that is that ships are breeding grounds for covid. there was one ship that was delayed recently for two months because just one crewmember got covid. of course, two months of a dela means that 1,000 containers on that one ship or delayed. a lot of companies, the big ite companies like costco, home depot, et cetera, they are renting the ships now at our cost of about 100-0000- $2 million a month. that doesn't include the containers, 1,000 containers, you could have a couple of hundred dollars per container. that's another 1 million or two per month. smaller retailers, they can't afford to do that very they can't rent a container ship there the big companies are beginning to do it. also a problem with we shifted lot of these companies, particular toy stores and stuff shifted from toyota to vietnam. vietnam has been hit hard by delta. >> i want to bring john robertson here because we spoke to it a toy company executive o the program yesterday who had some fascinating things to say and what set out to me is he said about 85 percent of his product you can manufacture and produce at home in the united states, but he still dependent on 16 percent of it to come fro china, and that is what is slowing him down and causing concerns about christmas. you can tee up the georgia furniture store owner, this is along those lines. listen. >> our domestic manufacturers a well they're beholden to the same situations. in order to build our furniture we don't get it. where getting, everybody is stuck with the same situation and the fact of the matter is, we're going to start putting my stuff in the u.s. >> that's great, the toy executive when i said would you consider them moving more of th production to the united states he said we'd love to, but we can't find enough workers to fill the factories. >> and guess what happens. the price goes up. that's going to be another thin that will lead to higher prices all over the place. it's great that people are thinking of moving their work here if they can find the laborers, but all the prices ar going to go up. we're going to have very big inflation problem going forward. remember when they said it was just temporary? don't believe that. >> always great to see you. thank you for joining us this afternoon. >> new york city's mayor asking the gifted and talented student program and really placing it with a more inclusive model tha some critics say is too broad t help either high or low performers. >> you're going to literally se the craters on your moon with your own eyes. with your own eyes. 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abandon the group which included dozens of children traveling on their own. also in florida, a deputy found nearly three dozen migrants hiding in a boat being towed on a trailer. potentially previewing what is ahead of a caravan of more than 60,000 migrants heads for the united states. they are now down in an area of panama and columbia where they, fox was the first tv crew to ge glimpse at the camp where hundreds of migrants arrive eac in every day. rip jenkins is their life. he has got the very latest for us. >> john, there are indeed many more on the way here. they're are more than 1,000 migrants right now in this camp behind me. if you stand just a little bit over to my right, you can see that there are some 500 under a building waiting for of bus rid to the costa rican border. they received within 700 migrants earlier today down on the river. they came out of that deadly dense area and gap jungle on both on a three hour ride up to where we are. we were able to get out on the water to go deep in the provinc in here is a little bit of what we saw. >> the boat ride where they com out of the jungle is about thre hours. you see these migrants making that trip right now. they will go to the first migrant told her. they arrive in panama before they are buzzed to costa rica, 12 hours away to get to the other part of their journey. >> so how do they pay for that journey? they just went through the jungle. its very fascinating. you see behind me the individuals holding western union signs, those individuals are like human atm machines. they basically are used in rep ester and union representatives. the migrants can come here, called their migrants, many of them in the u.s., wire money to a specific account and they han the migrants money. a cost $25 for that boat ride, the bus will be $40, but now when they go through central america in certainly get to mexico, the cartels will have a bigger financial grasp on them and they will need thousands of dollars to continue their journey, but it is certainly a window into that really human toll of this migration and this pipeline from south america to our border because we have seen a lot of people tired, sick, some injured. one woman with a gash on her le bandaged with some swelling and an infection. the red cross attending to her. have a covid tent set up as well , but they are not testing anybody. >> it's a real eye opener. it's a business every step alon the way. everybody is making a buck off these migrants. >> new york city taking steps t do away with its gifted and talented programs in public schools. it comes after years of controversial debate that the program makes racial inequality and segregation worse in the nation's largest school district . the cochair of the new york cit chapter of the nation against intolerance and racism. thank you for joining us. why is new york city deciding t do away with the gifted and talented program that so many kids are currently in? >> it is really a sad day that new york city's public school education is being destroyed by new york city's mayor on his wa out the door. the reason that they gave in terms of taking away this opportunity for many really low income immigrant kids is that these schools do not represent the demographics of new york city public schools. they say these schools skew mor asian and more white, and that is the reason being given. >> there has been quite a bit o controversial debate about this leading up to the decision. here he is announcing integrate i will get your thoughts on the other side. >> we are saying we are going t train teachers and prepare schools to actually reach you a a child, and bring out your gifts and abilities that would have been ignored if you were not accepted into one of those very small very exclusives gifted and talented programs previously. >> so they are responding to th scrapping of this program and said that these are not privileged wealthy parents, these are working parents who want to challenge their kids. how is putting kids out of gifted and talented programs going to solve racial segregation? punishing kids who want to exce is wrong. as i understand it, they are going to correct me if i'm wrong , they are going to let those that are currently in the program finish up in the program , but then they're going to have these kids that they ar judging four -year-olds based o a single test is over, they are going to have these kids and they offer them a program calle really into nyc, they will be acknowledged, but they still remain in the classroom with their other pupils, so there still acknowledged as gifted an they will be put on a separate track? >> it's just nonsense. and parents know exactly what he's trying to do. look, the new york city gift talented and gifted program needs to be expanded into all neighborhoods and many neighborhoods don't even have one of these programs. but two take it away, especiall for families that are depending on the opportunities is just really abrupt and disruptive. his brilliant nyc program, he loves giving these names to programs to call it what they'r not going to be. and, it is a fools errand to think that training teachers to be able to differentiate for th highest levels of learners in classrooms of 25-30 to is reall going to meet and support these accelerated learners needs. >> as you heard him make the case and others who support thi program say they want to phase it out because it has encourage racism and segregation in the classrooms. >> it's just--go ahead. >> just to be clear you have a ten -year-old in the new york city public school system. >> i do. i have a fifth-grader. she did take the gifted and talented. she did not make the spot. what my organization has to do is try to advocate for the expansion of these programs. not to cancel its. i think what he's replacing it with, he is calling it inclusive , but really what he's doing is watering down really what should be taught to kids that can learn more and learn faster. >> it is something that is gaining a lot of attention to deal away with the talented and gifted program that sony kids had benefited from over the years. great to have you on that. we will be following up with ho the brilliant nyc program that the mayor is putting in its place goes. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> now to a fox news alert. where getting the first look inside the west virginia court room where and diana toebbe are facing espionage related charge for trying to sell u.s. nuclear submarines secrets to an unname foreign country. they thought they were leaving dead drop of some schematics of nuclear power plants for virginia class submarines that would be picked up by a representative from a foreign entity which is only listed as country one in the complaint, but instead all the way along, they had been dealing with the fbi in now they find themselves in court. we will keep watching that stor for you. >> it is a fascinating one. we are awaiting the 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next break break this is august 12, guess what was happening then? afghanistan was falling apart. where being embarrassed around the globe by the way were hinting at pride we didn't inform our nato allies what we were doing. we watched couple go to pieces in than we quickly scrambled to secure the airport. we know how bad that when. instead, i admit her job is to be seen talking about space, i understand that, but the most staggering thing is she wouldn' choose to be in the oval office she wouldn't demand to be by th president side, want to be part of the decision-making, have he input felt, instead child actor are surrounding her on a porch in california as they pretend t be interested in what she saying . i'm watching this saying why is she so enthusiastic right and then the story comes out how these kids auditioned. they were told to do a quick essay on things about something they're passionate about, because they passed the auditio they got to act like they were interested in space. she had to act like she was interested in telling them abou space and how great it was to see a hole in the moon which we've seen since 1968. this is stunning to me perigee hired crisis managers. did they think it was to cause crisis and how appropriate that the production company is sinking ship. every time she chooses to do something instead of her right thing, her political fortunes g down a little bit more. >> i was wondering why you couldn't find real kids to find these play these parts. i have a couple of twins at hom that would love to be a part of that. they're lives space as well. one of the kids in the video is named trevor, his father, carlo told the washington examiner he's a child actor, this was a casting call very specific one where he had to write a monologue about what he's reall passionate about and he wrote a monologue about the environment. the white house tells our peter do see that the vice president' office did not choose the children who appeared in this, and i'm thinking to myself wow, that is an epic fail on the par of the vice president's office. do you want to know who these kids are? otherwise you're stuck in a real-life episode. you can just see her saying that . >> which is a comedy. it does win emmy awards, and sh won't, she's over laughing and overacting. i keep thinking about that dron video. you been at the border many times, i've been told to appear to think about the wall that could beat out at the save the border control time and manpowe in order to focus on the funnel areas, instead we have our dron team showing the border wall an what is she doing? she quickly pivoted and said i want to go to the genesis of where this happens, where the issue is. why isn't she in panama right now? why isn't she with the foreign minister reached out to the ministration and told them abou these haitians coming forward too. and did she ever get the message ? did she hear about it? did she ignore it? if you put on as short and go down and tried to solve the problem, people would appreciat it, let alone solve the problem. >> all of this is taking a toll on the biden administration piglets, but help the latest full on his approval. 38 percent approve, 58 percent disapprove. during the trump administration democrats were crowing about th fact that trump's readings were about there, and now biden is too. >> if you break down the numbers , independents are the ones to focus on but over the weekend cvs put out a ball and you put out a ball and mysteriously at 50 percent approval. i find that stunning great it was a quick counterweight to this, they're usually on the same page these polls. it's not like at trafalgar or another ball that turns to so i was a little stunned by that. 38 percent, if he earned it or didn't earn it. >> good to talk to you, good to get your talk thoughts on things . >> good to see you this afternoon, my friend. >> a major update. we're expecting next hour on th killing of her final autopsy reports are 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child actors . >> we will see if the white house weighs in when jen psaki breaks for reporters anytime now . if you think you saw the story yesterday the new details out today only adding to the headache. >> we are monitoring live briefing starting soon the stat department and the pentagon on the list of questions they are, why didn't a.b. engineer and hi schoolteacher wife, he allegedl tried to sell our nation's nuclear secrets. that afternoon and welcome everyone. i said jampacked. a jampacked hour coming up ther at. >> like those commercials, and there's more pride i'm john roberts in washington. welcome to our number to. a lot to cover starting with on of the biggest updates on a cas that is captivated the country. >> how did gabby petito died? the answer to that question may be coming soon. this hour we're expected to get a full report on her autopsy. >> officials have ruled the death a homicide, but there are plenty of questions including who killed her, when, how, and why. even though we expect just some of those answers this afternoon they could provide investigator with the clues needed to bring her killer to justice. >> we kick things off with fox team coverage. on the hunt for her fiancé as h remains on the run. >> so much of this investigatio has been kept quiet from investigators, so today will give us a significant amount of insight as to what happened to gabby petito in possibly if the coroner can narrow down a timeline of when she was killed. that is key. it's been almost a month since her remains were found near the ground teton national park on september 19th in jackson, wyoming. the last known sighting of her was at at tex-mex restaurant in jackson on august 27th. that is where witnesses say the saw her fighting with her fiané and travel partner brian laundrie who was also arguing with restaurant staff that tapered her remains discovered roughly 30 miles down the road in the spread creek campground site and near where a fellow taft travel blogger head when the couple was last seen and when brian laundrie returned home to florida. investigators have remained silent, including what could be some in the police body cam footage recorded in moab, utah with the traffic stop when they asked them about a physical altercation that was witnessed between the two of them august 12th and moab they admitted that laundrie hit her and scratched her during the public fight while also admitting she hit him as well. we should find out at the timin of the release of her body as well to the family. we know the family has plans to bring her home to new york afte she is cremated. we could know more on that toda as well. >> team coverage continues now. steve harrigan live in north fork florida where the search for brian laundrie goes on. >> all quiet around the family house. the parents not even coming out to mow that long. the last time they got a look a the parents was sunday night after they came out at 11:00 p.m. to pick up some laundry baskets off of their lawn. as for brian laundrie himself. no news on that manhunt. his parents eddie went hiking a a place about 10 miles away but authority saying there is no physical evidence as i get to link him to anything in this area. as for that temporary memorial to gabby is petito it was taken down. it took eight city workers in three trucks to do. they will be giving those items to the family. people were stopping by to visi and pay their respects to the very end. >> i have daughters of my own and sons so i've been following the case. it's heartbreaking. that woman came to pay her respects at that memorial from california. it really shows the national impact of the story on a lot of americans. >> thank you so much. >> the former assistant fbi director is here. criminal attorney in former forensic pathologist doctor mik michelle mccray. thank you for joining us. credit to you first is you been joining us as much throughout the story and especially as brian laundrie is at large and on the run. as far as we know, we don't kno if he's alive. obviously as far as what will learn. >> obviously, how she died, i think it's very critical to learn when they died if they ca pinpoint a narrow timeframe. being seen in that area, the altercation at the café, so the timeline here is becoming very very important in the overall homicide investigation. i think the time of death and how she died is going to be ver critical. >> walk us through what the medical examiner has been doing for the last few weeks because it was quite some time ago that the death was declared a homicide yet it has taken until today for the actual cause of death to be revealed. why the delay? >> there's probably several reasons. the autopsy itself is still but there are many other tests, ancillary tests, that the medical examiner probably ran for it for example, toxicology. there might be other tests. to help determine the cause of death. >> you're intensive patient has been building for this report a well. he we want to know how gabby petito died. we have a guy on the run that w all think killed her, but all w know right now is that somebody killed her because homicide is defined as the killing of a human being by another human being. we don't know what actually happened. he's got an arrest warrant for low-level crime. that could change today depending on what the results are from the autopsy. obviously, brian laundrie is no a suspect officially in his death. though he is on an arrest warrant a federal arrest warran for credit card fraud. when this autopsy report comes out with a cause of death, do you expect to hear of a spontaneous act or potentially something that was premeditated? >> i fully expect to hear of a spontaneous act. i see this and have since the august 12th traffic stop was revealed, i have thought this was a domestic violence inciden that went bad. >> it's interesting. the salt lake city private investigator who comments on ou foxnews.com peace and who visited the scenes where the remains were discovered over th weekend told fox news digital that he believes we will also discuss the results of the postmortem toxicology test, which obviously detects drugs i a person system adding that he believes that drugs were not at play in play at the time of her death. in reference of fatigue the bod in the august 12th video that w have all seen by now. dr. dupree where we did see her grabbing her face. he references there was something in that video that told him that he was concerned about the way she would have been handled by her beyoncé and letter to that prediction. >> and oftentimes, we find evidence of that. and certainly, during the autopsy, we would find evidence that there had been manual strangulation in the soft tissues of the neck. >> we know that brian laundrie spent so much time with gabby, and i'm sure that his dna is going to be all over the place here because they were together in that little band. how could the cause of death potentially point to him becaus at this point, there still doesn't appear to be any evidence that points directly t him in the case of her death? >> that is very interesting. of course a lot of cases are built on circumstance. this may end up being one as well. i think what we might tell from the dna is is there any other dna involved that is not brian laundrie. we know he created the timeline where he was not with her for a couple of periods of time, did she meet with somebody else? could somebody else have been involved? i think the dna won't so much allow us to implicate brian laundrie, but it may point to other people depending on the findings for it. >> it's remarkable on a day tha we learn more about gabby petit death, the cause of death, that brian laundrie seen on the vide here that we've all seen and utah police encounter august 12th on the side of the road, that he has still not yet been found at this point. does that surprise you that the have not been able to locate this man? >> not that much really. they could help out with some help indoors, he could be outdoors somewhere that is livable, not that remote area i florida. i don't think he could live bee there for more than two days without some sort of shelter. but i think he could stay under the grid or off the grid for a little while. i don't read him is being sophisticated enough. if he's alive, to stay off the grid that long. he's in every system you can imagine every law enforcement and citizen in the nation is looking for him. if he's alive he will stumble into something in will have him. >> i really appreciate your time . we are awaiting that press briefing where the autopsy report and the results will be revealed at to 30:00 p.m. eastern time. thank you for our panel. in the meantime we want to jump to the white house where jen psaki is taking questions in th briefing room. teammate a little bit of news so the president is going to meet with the heads of several port facilities in the port of long beach and others. let's pick it up now in the briefing room. leaving their jobs is attribute to that. they're are also conditions, so i can't give you the exact breakdown, i guess i'm just conveying that our economist feel that all are true. they're are some conditions where women have left the workforce because of childcare needs of ones they can afford, they don't have the ability to pay and, because of fears of going into companies or industries or jobs where they fear that there are not the conditions to be safe. it depends really, josh, i thin some are positive conditions an some are more because there haven't been steps put in place in every industry that can make people feel safe. >> first on the g 20 called the president have this morning regarding afghanistan and the u.s. had said that millions of dollars of aid are needed to stave off a humanitarian crisis there in the eu responded by making a new commitment on that front. that the president make any new commitment? >> we recently said sent $64 million in assistance for the people of afghanistan. we are still the largest humanitarian donor in afghanistan. we will continue to take steps to alleviate the suffering of the afghan people and call on other donors to step up their contributions to help deliver critical assistance. the recent $64 million brought us up to $333 million which makes us far and away the largest donor. >> any change to the policy about [inaudible] that would be available in afghanistan. there's been no change in the policy pair. >> i was wondering if you had a update on the talks and where that stands. i know there is conversation today with the israeli government. do you see that restarting soon? >> let's first keep our partner abreast of our efforts to pursu a diplomatic path forward as it relates to the talks with iran, so certainly it was the topic o discussion. i don't have a full read out quite yet as it was happening earlier today. in terms of where things stand, that continues to be our preferred path, our preferred choice. we believe diplomacy it should always be the first option. i think you may have all seen secretary of state conveyed thi weekend that time is not unlimited and that remains the case, but we continue to pursue that negotiations our team remains prepared to return for another round of discussions, but i don't have an update on windows might occur. >> where are the talks on the reconciliation package didn't right now? >> as i think you heard speaker pelosi conveyed this morning as well, the president feels that we are continuing to make progress, we are having important discussions about wha a package that is smaller than $3.5 trillion would look like, those conversations have to happen with a range of members. those are happening both at a senior staff level and also wit the president over the course o the last several days and weeks. at those will continue. obviously we want to get to a point, we are at a point i should say, where there are choices that need to be made. that as they choice point were at now. given there will be feeler dollars that will be spent, a lot of those conversations are happening behind the scenes. >> did state need to make a counteroffer of what they need want this to look like? >> it's more of an ongoing conversation than it is a passing back of paper every couple of days so there's an ongoing discussion with senator mansion. they're is an ongoing discussio with a with a range of what thi looks like. as speaker pelosi said this morning this is the point where decisions need to be made and choices need to be made. the presidents preference is th same as the speaker's preferenc he proposed a $3.5 trillion package. he proposed a broad range of initiatives that will lower cos for the american people, whethe it's childcare, eldercare, college, invest in claimant, no matter how you cut it, it seems we could still do something historic that will fundamentall change the economy for the american people. >> several challenges facing th white house right now not just getting unite united, but also skyrocketing gas prices, a jobs report last week, and some othe issues including the president for numbers seem to be reflecting that. how is he viewing all of these challenges in the white house right now? >> he has an incredible team working on all these issues at one time, and his views, his responsibility is to continue t forge ahead every day in to wor to address the challenges the american people are facing. you didn't mention covid, but that continues to be front and center on the minds of the american people. people want to return back to a version of normal pride they want to go back to knowing that their kids are safe at school, that they can go to their workplaces, that they don't hav to fear for their safety in communities, but he understands that. that's what is working on every single day. i would say he also recognizes that right now, getting something done for the american people come, working with members to members of congress to do exactly that, to forge a path forward to unite the democratic party is what people have elected him to do, to address the challenges were facing over the long-term pride i promise you, we don't get too glum around here even if things look challenging, our view and his view is that he was elected to continue to press forward an address the challenges the american people are facing. >> speaker pelosi said the overwhelming guidance she is getting is that members of congress want to do fewer thing well when it comes to the reconciliation package. does the president supports tha approach doing fewer things well ? >> she also gave a furlough press conference this morning where she address this, so i would point you to that. what she said in the press conference was that if there ar fewer dollars to be spent, ther are choices that need to be mad and the president agrees. that is fundamentally true of course, if it's more than $3.5 trillion, which we know it will be, than there are choices that need to be made, but the president's view is that a bill that doesn't pass means nothing changes and the challenges they challenges were facing our too urgent to do nothing, so that i why at this point what we have to do is work with a range of members who ever range of views about what should be included i a package, what is a priority t them so that we can make some fundamental changes. we are focused on the impact an that is what we're keeping our eye on. >> talks will stall without having lawmakers in washington for it. >> the good news is there are phones and we are quite used to zoom a conference calls this da and age. those have continued through th course of the weekends, through the course of nights even as members have been away and we anticipate those will continue full speed over the coming days. >> what is the president's message. you mentioned several of them. when it comes to what the guidance is now what does the president say to the companies as they determine what they should be doing right now with vaccine mandate. >> we know that federal law overrides state law. i would note that earlier when we put out our guidance on the presidents announcement about mandates several weeks ago coma it made clear that again, as i said earlier, requirements our problem supersede any contrarie eight or local law or ordinance. additionally, nothing in this guidance excuses noncompliance with any applicable state law o municipal ordinance. we put out the guidance several weeks ago conveying that clearly , but fundamentally, beyond the legal aspect which i unquestionable in our view, the question for any business leade is what you want to do to save more lives and your companies? how are you going to create a workforce where people feel saf to go into their workplaces? what is fundamentally in the interest of your businesses ove the long-term? we have seen from economist after economist and frankly man business leaders who have worke to implement mandates that implement these mandates create certainty, reduces the number o people out of work, and worse, and that is good ultimately for businesses, it's good for the economy, but also saving lives is something that business leaders can do by continuing to work to implement these mandates . i would note a lot of these businesses are doing them on their own today to. >> clearly governor abbott know that federal rules supersede state loot rules, so why do you think he did this? >> politics. >> can you elaborate? >> i think it's clear when you make a choice that is against all public health information and data out there that it's no based on what is in the interes of the people you are governing. it is perhaps in the interest o your own politics. >> i know you said there's goin to be but is there anything you can tell us about the state folders that the president is meeting with tomorrow, what the administration can do, is doing about some of these supply bottlenecks? >> we're taking a number of steps which i'm happy to outlin but let me focus on the ports because that is clearly what th focus will be tomorrow. one of the challenges were having is as you've all seen an shown on many of your networks and others have reported on is that the delay of goods getting through to our ports and enabling them to get to people in the country. we know that is one of the bottlenecks in the supply chain. the supply chain bottlenecks range industry to industry, but we know addressing that those bottlenecks at ports could help address what we see in many industries across the country and frankly are leading people if you're preparing for holidays , christmas, whatever they may celebrate, birthdays, to order goods in to get them t people's homes. so that is what they will focus on tomorrow is to talk about what we're going to do on ports something that has been a focus for months now and he has hired people to help address at. >> i want to talk about an earlier question she referenced the [inaudible] it seemed like she backtracked from her messag yesterday about what sort of path the democrats need to take. it seemed like she was indicating that programs fewer programs done well would be the preference in then this morning said that the first thing to go would be the timeline. so has the president given any sort of a push in either direction on this? >> this is all part of the discussion. i will let you convey or ask questions of speaker pelosi herself. as we saw this morning, she is more than capable of speaking o her own behalf. what she was conveying is that it was the preference or preference, the preference presidents preference to have the initial package proposed, what our focus now is on is building a real tangible packag that can become law in is going to make a transformational difference in peoples lives. i understand, we all know why w are talking here about the size and the cuts, et cetera. a cut, it's not a cut just because someone once proposed something bigger on paper. it's not a bill or a policy that's going to change lives, and that is what we are working through. there's a lot of ways to do tha and that is the discussion she' having with our caucus and the president of course is playing prominent role. >> he doesn't prefer one avenue or then other? gig at the president wants to make fundamental change in our economy and he feels coming out of the pandemic is exactly the time to do that. if we don't do it now, if we don't address the cost of childcare to go back to josh's question earlier, if we don't address the climate crisis, if we don't ensure that your universal pre-k is a reality now , we are not going to have the same opportunity to do it for some time. >> and want to get to the suppl chain issues, is there any consideration of potentially lifting trump era tariffs to give some sort of an immediate relief to this problem? i know the task force talking about long-term solutions but that is something that business leaders have suggested could have a real impact right now. >> the task force has been talking about a range of steps that need to be taken part and think that as you saw by our announcements are or investor type of speech last week, we ar open to considering policies or continuing some policies if the are in the interest of the american people and the interes of our economy ultimately, what we're seeing is that and what h will be talking about tomorrow is that the ports and the ability to move goods through ports is certainly one of the big bottlenecks. that is what he'll be addressing . they're are other issues in the supply chain including manufacturing and international manufacturing hubs where the issue there is the number of people aren't showing up for work or factories that are shut down because of covid. we are still the worlds world's largest supplier of maxine's. we have seen different types of supply chain issues in regards to lumber and tips. >> they're are people that should say the president should be pressuring unions and liftin work restrictions that are keeping truck drivers limited o their hours behind the wheel or operating at less than full capacity. what is the white house answer to that? can get i would say we have taken steps at times when warranted to loosen restriction as you saw in reaction to some natural disasters you've had over the course of the year. and the threats to the american people to their well-being, two they're economic well-being. the supply chain has been working for months to address these issues. i know world-renowned business travel and health expert senato ted cruz has made that point, but i wouldn't say that that is widely acknowledged or echoed b business leaders who have implemented these mandates by health experts who conveyed the way to get out of the pandemic is to ensure that we are doing exactly the steps the president has announced and we are workin to implement. it doesn't mean this is hard an challenging. of course it is come over in th middle of a global pandemic. ultimately the job of the president of the united states is to lead. it's to ensure that he is protecting the lives of people across the country. i know there is a little hubbub over the course of the last few days about southwest airlines, we now know that some of those planes were absolutely false in the issues were completely unrelated to vaccine mandates. what we've seen business-to-business across the country is this is a way to sav lives, and create more tea, is something we look forward to implementing birth given how important the mandate is for th policy. that is jen psaki taking questions at the briefing room. dismissing the idea that the vaccine mandates are to blame for the slowdown that we see also saying that the task force has been working for months and making a little bit of news saying that the president will be meeting with the head of the ports of los angeles, long beach , and others to try to address this. >> a lot of talk about task force being deployed to all these various problems, it stands out on the port issue that they said this is this something that the president ha been addressing and working on for months. one could make the case it's in the worst position today that i has been yet and it's not showing any signs of improving in this moment. >> let's bring in bret baier hi new book to rescue the republic is out today. we will talk about that just a second but lipsky your thoughts on this because the supply-chai problem just one more issue to add to the long list for this administration. >> it has been a very tough stretch for the biden administration. i agree, to say that the president has been working on i for months and some task force that we haven't heard about it. they want actions to the supply chain. has an active role in preventin what some of these businesses are seeing and the difficulty i getting those people back to work. the ministration talks about covid a lot, but there are factors as you know that go int businesses and the supply chain and how this is all working wit the u.s. economy. >> we have over 10 million job openings in this country and it's a major problem trying to get people back to work in this environment. kamala harris was tapped for th orders are 202 days ago. in the middle of all of this at this administration is facing multiple crises, if got kamala harris in a sit down with young kids talking about space. here is the video. >> i wonder who the head of the space counsel is? >> are you kidding me? >> it's the vice president birth . >> you're going to literally se the craters on the moon with your own eyes. >> oh my goodness. >> with your own eyes. i'm telling you it is going to be unbelievable. >> those we're hired actors, th children, that white house is not denying that. >> this is quite a story politically, just embarrassing. the segment is called get curious with vice president harris. they are getting curious, but they're paid to do so. they are children actors and th entertainment company that put it on, you can't make it up. the name is sinking ship entertainment. i think this is a political problem, but we will see how long it lasts. >> we have to jump back because the coroner is holding his news conference. he said the cause of death was strangulation. >> thank you for joining us, sorry about the audio issues. i am the teton county wyoming, coroner. after a detailed investigation by our forensic pathologist, or anthropologist, and local law enforcement with assistance fro the fbi, the teton county coroner's office is found the following verdict, in the manne of death of gabrielle petito, w find the cause and manner to be because because, steph vice regulation and manner is homicide. by wyoming state statue only th cause and manner of death are released. the autopsy findings in photographs and that sort of material is not released by state statute. now if you would like to entertain some questions at thi time. >> this is alex can you hear me? >> s. >> and curious whether you are able to pinpoint a date of deat and if you know whether or when hurt remains will be returned t her family? >> the remains have been returned to the mortuary here i the mortuary is dealing with th family at this time as far as the disposition of the remains. as far as the time of death, we are approximately three or four weeks from the time the body wa found, that is [indiscernible] then our office. >> you are able to ask your question. >> what is the question? i didn't hear a question. >> chris, i believe you are muted. if you could unmute yourself. >> okay. it's john walsh from and pursue with john walsh on discovery id. dr. bloom, thank you for your time to write i think everybody in the world believes that bria laundrie killed gabby. with your work on the body, are you sure that it is brian laundrie, and while the fbi issue a nationwide homicide warrant now that they know the cause of death? >> we are only tasked with the determination of cause and manner of death. who committed the homicide is u to law enforcement and i cannot answer the question about the fbi. you would have to contact them. >> you are not allowed to ask your question. >> hello doctor. if you could please comment on any other bruising, may be on the body that possibly was healing, possibly older bruises or cuts that might have been healing over the last couple of weeks before her passing? >> wyoming state statue, no other information about the autopsy is released, just the cause of death. >> this is heather lee, reporte at abc action news in tampa, florida. i wanted to know if you could explain why it took about a month for this process to finish . i think a lot of people were hoping they would learn this information sooner. i was just wondering if you could expand the process and wh it took a month? >> the main reason was that we were very exacting in our examination and the detail of which that examination was done. we were waiting for various specialists to come in and help us with this investigation. we were waiting on toxicology t be returned, and it was just a matter of making sure we had everything right. >> thank you. is there another question? okay. steve fabian? >> hi, doctor, how are you. i am curious if any dna samples were taken from gabby's remains and also, if the body was intact . are you able to tell is the condition of the remains? >> i can tell you the dna samples were taken by law enforcement and all i can tell you about her remains is that the body was outside for three or four weeks. >> do you have your hand up? >> is that a question? i didn't hear question. >> doctor? it's john walsh again from in pursuit with john walsh. you will probably be the most important witness at the trial and i asked you before how confident you feel that brian laundrie they use the semantics that he was a person of interest , i'm old school, he was the only suspect ever, and i just wonder, you are going to b the most important got a the trial probably. do you have any doubts it's brian laundrie? >> i can't make any comment about any suspects because we are not involved in that part o the investigation. we are only involved in the investigation of the body of th deceased. so who committed the homicide i really to be determined by law enforcement. >> i thank you for your hard work, and i always say in so many cases i've been involved in , let the pathologist and the coroner do their work no matter how long it takes so i think yo probably don't of really good job on this case. thank you for your time. >> doctor, this is rochelle wit abc action news in tampa. can you kind of walk us through the process to how you arrived at this specific manner of death ? >> in this state of wyoming there are four possibilities fo a manner of death, they are homicide, suicide, accident, an natural. those are the four choices. what we do an investigation as we look at the crime scene or o the scene of death, the scene o the body, the condition of the body, and finding findings at autopsy and toxicology. that is how we arrived at the manner of death. so it really depends on lots of different circumstances. >> stephen fabian again from "inside edition." can you tell us if the body was. when it was discovered or if th body was on the surface? >> i can't tell you that. that would be something you would have to ask the fbi, because we are not allowed to release that information. >> kelly vaughn? do you have a, kelly vaughn? we have brian nd in the chat that has a question. what is your question, brian? was there any impact on her bod from weather or wild animals in the national park? >> i'm sorry, i didn't hear the question. >> was there any impact on her body from weather or wild animals in the national park? >> all i can really comment about that is that her body was outside in the wilderness for three or four weeks. you are and muted. k sl assignment? >> hello, k sl tv in salt lake. can you tell us at all whether or not was it believed that she was murdered there at that location or is it any indicatio that her body was drugged there or taken their? can you give us any indication there? >> i can't comment on that combat that would be something you would have to talk about to the fbi. >> hello. what were the results on the toxicology reports and is there any suggestion that gabby had any drugs in her system and if so what were they? get the results of the toxicology so i can't comment about that. >> thank you. we have a question from the cha was gabby petito pregnant. >> she was not pregnant. >> my question is did you seek the advice of forensic entomologist or a forensic botanist during the course of your investigation? >> the fbi has sent materials t a forensic entomologist. w pbs 25 news. >> hi, doctor. this is terry parker from palm beach county, florida. you said you were very thorough in this autopsy and examination. could you give us an example of the type of tests and analysis that you performed? >> this autopsy included a whol body cat scan, and examination by forensic pathologist, and examination by a forensic anthropologist, and toxicology evaluation. so we pretty much covered all the bases. >> doctor, thank you for taking the question. you mentioned that strangulatio is the cause of death. can you talk about how you received, or how you came to that conclusion? >> i cannot. it is part of the autopsy findings in is not discoverable. >> was there any other cause of death that was a possibility in this case? >> we look at all possibilities when we tried to determine caus of death. but the cause of death is that we determined. >> i have a question in the chat . it is was the manner of death obvious, strangulation marks, injured neck? nana thing is obvious in a situation like this, so a detailed analysis was used to determine manner and cause of death. i can't go into details on how we made that decision. >> kristin thorne from new york great can you please repeat about how long you believe the body was out there. the last time you spoke you jus hadn't gotten a good shot of yo saying that. could you please repeat that? >> artificial determination is the body was in the wilderness for 3-4 weeks. >> thank you. jorge fitzgibbons? you have to unmute. >> sorry about that. good afternoon. relating back to the date of death, is there a date listed o the death certificate? >> the death certificate has no been completed at this time and the death certificates in the state of wyoming allow for approximate dates and there wil not be an exact date of death o the death certificate. >> eileen with news 12? >> hello, doctor. we asked a little bit, but is there a way that you can explai how you know that it was strangulation. sometimes i know that the high fight going could be missing. is this something that you discovered in this case? get a can't comment on that because it would be a finding o the autopsy in is i stated before in the state of wyoming, the autopsy results are not public knowledge. >> so than you can't clarify whether it was manual strangulation or with an item, correct? >> that is a correct. michael ruiz? >> doctor, was the entire examination conducted at your lab in jackson or was that body shifted to another facility? to get the examination done entirely and our in teton county , wyoming. >> you have been listening they are to the full autopsy report revealed from teton county, wyoming of gabby petito who jus detailed that he believes that she after she died, she was lef in the wilderness for 3-4 weeks as we learned right off the back , he ruled it a death by strangulation and her death ruled a homicide. although he did direct a lot of those questions to the fbi and the police as a matter. we got the details that so many have been waiting for for quite some time. >> he said there will likely be no exact date of death because of the fact that she was out there in the wilderness exposed for so long. >> let's bring in nancy grace who joins us by phone for it is been anticipating this for quit some time. what was your take away? >> i think that it is very significant that we are learnin the cause of death and the fact that it is a strangulation in m mind even more so implicates brian laundrie and i think when dna results are in we will find out even more. legal eagles had long thought the cause of death would either be strangulation or blunt force trauma. strangulation is often used, it's called a sweetheart murder in other words, the perpetrator is close up and intimate with the victim. we find that often in domestic homicides. >> nancy, i was going to say th idea of strangulation, particularly of young women lik this after circumstances we hav seen in other videos and other times to you, is that suggestiv of a crime of fashion? >> it's absolutely suggestive o a crime of passion part i long suspected it would be either strangulation expects the agent or blunt force trauma in a fit of rage, but here we have gabby out in the wilderness alone wit brian laundrie. we know she was contemplating leaving him because so many people had just told her to reconsider the relationship. there she is, alone with him, contemplating leaving late and statistically the single most dangerous time for a woman contemplating leaving a relationship, it that is the single most dangerous time and there she is alone. it really floors me is what it must have taken for him to leav her decomposing for three or four weeks and i'm really happy in one way or relieved as the better word that they could eve determine a cause of death due to potential exposure of gabby petito. >> and the details of what we just learned of what they do in potentially making the connection to brian laundrie in the court of law, nancy, i woul ask you referencing what a salt lake city private investigator is quoted talking about an art .com piece today saying he was not going to be surprised i it was annual strangulation or if he had choked her before prayer adhesive when he was watching that police video in utah and he described how laundry grabbed her face during that domestic disputes, he said the private investigator said any victim who has been choked before, their natural reaction is to lower their gin to their clavicle to prevent that hand going around her throat suggesting that's what he saw her do in that video. you believe that law enforcemen and lawyers are going to be abl to make any sort of connection here? >> i absolutely do believe that. it is amazing what type of dna is left behind leavitt's saliva epithelial, which is skin cells. i hope they decompose or did no ruin or compromise any of his dna if in fact it was there at all, but i can tell you this much, the fact that she was strangled, out there, and when you look at her in that body ca video from moab on august the 12th where she kept holding her hand up to her chest near her neck, it is very very disturbing . i now think that investigators, police, fbi will use extrinsic evidence such as placing brian laundrie in the vicinity of tha location near the time of death to place him they are with her. they're is no way for a jury to find someone else did this thing . through phone records, through receipts, through maps on the transit the application system, placing him they are at the approximate time of her death. they will be able to do it. >> nancy, you heard the coroner say that we may not know the exact date of death because of the state of decomposers or of the body and the amount of time the body went undiscovered so i you're looking at that theory o trying to place him in the same area at the time of her death, the coroner is suggesting that might be a difficult hill to climb. >> i have no doubt in my mind they will not be able to pinpoint a day, but if i look a the last time she is seen alive the next time he is seen alone, and those receipts of him traveling across the country, based on the time that he got home and the time that he was last seen alive, i bet you, i bet your bottom dollar we will get three or four day window of her time of death that they can place him there, in that campground, at that time, it's over. >> stephen bertolino who represents the brian laundrie family has put out a statement following the reveal of the autopsy results saying that the death at such a young age as a tragedy he writes while brian laundrie is currently charged with the unlawful use of a debi card belonging to gabby, he is only considered a person of interest in relation to the demise. at this time he is still missin and when he is located, we will address the pending fraud charg against him. your reaction, nancy? >> that's what i expect them to say. that what he's being paid to say . so i'm not surprised at all. he wants me to think about the debit card when i find out that she was strangled dead and her body left to decompose and i'm thinking about a chick-fil-a drive-through? are you kidding me? he'd like me to think about tha but right now i'm thinking abou gabby petito being strangled dead and that is plenty of time to form premeditation the time it takes to strangle someone. so now we know, this was no accident. she didn't fall down and hit he head. she didn't fall into a ravine and drown, we know she died by strangulation. we know she died of asphyxiation . she was murdered. if they can place him they are, within 70 to hours of the time she was murdered, it would be hard to pinpoint that down, but i bet you, it will be close enough for a jury. what you expect a defense attorney to say, yeah, he did it , now should i tell you where he is? >> let me come back to somethin you said a couple of minutes ag here as you are giving as your final detailed analysis and tha is that maybe whoever strangled left skin cells around the strangulation area. you say you hope that strangulation survive being out there in the elements, the fact that brian laundry is still jus a person of evidence and has no been connected with the death o gabby petito, is that a suggestion that there is not ye any kind of evidence that could tie either him or any suspect t her death? is that a suggestion that maybe that evidence you talked about does not exist? >> i liked what you said when you said not yet. you said not yet. and you are absolutely correct. not yet. but it ain't over yet. right now, there has still had got to be comparisons done and think they may have been able t do it by now, but i don't know that. what i do know is he was with her, he is alive and she is dead . the dna will be coming. do i think it survived? probably not, but if she was still closed, and i think she was, we've got a better chance of getting dna off the close. >> as far as any further detailed information, the toxicology report, he did not revealed her at he said only cause and manner of death is what he would revealed today. you believe there will be any further surprise details that come from what they hope learn since they have had her body? >> i do. they're were not surprises in i why would they keep it a secret? so right now, either they're no complete, or their withholding evidence. why? why would they withhold evidence ? yet to think reasonably. what is the likelihood that somebody else would come kill this beautiful young girl when brian laundrie is the one makin often her van with her debit card. did he think she was going to rub two sticks together out there and make dinner. think it through. throughout the likelihood that he was her man or hard drive, her computer, her belongings, used her debit card and somebod else happens along and kills her ? that doesn't even make sense. >> nancy grace, always good to talk to you and get your analysis. we look forward to more of your coverage on this. >> our prayers are with the petito family right now. this is awful for them. >> i'm sure it is. >> john, our coverage of this will continue. laura has been on the since the beginning perigee sat down with the parents of gabby petito per chi said it was heartbreaking when she spoke to them. martha will take it from here. thank you for joining us i'm sandra smith. >> the whole thing is heartbreaking. john roberts, the story starts right now. >> thank you. continuing coverage of the breaking news. i'm trace gallagher in for martha maccallum. the teton county coroners delivering his full report on the manner and cause of gabby petito's death ruling it was strangulation and her body was in the wilderness for three to four weeks before it was discovered. all as the man hunt for brian laundrie appears to be at a standstill. his lawyer releasing this statement moments ago quoting now, gabby

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