But they do need the right to be respected. I think they re living beings just like us, and so they should be understood as much as we possibly can understand them. We shouldn t inflict needless pain on them, and we should curb some of our habits that cause them a lot of suffering. Peta, your organisation, people for the ethical treatment of animals, opposes what it calls speciesism and a, quote, human supremacist worldview. Can you sort of explain what that actually means? well, i think we have to get over ourselves as a species, as a human species. We ve sort of set ourselves up as gods, and we regard anyone that doesn t fit into the human species as sort of trash. I mean, as you said earlier, we might pet them, we might skin them. We decide. And yet animals are not like us, they are us. If we took elementary biology, we learned that we are one animal among many. It s a great, if you will, somebody said an orchestra of life, we each play a different instrument. That s rather romantic
Welcome to hardtalk. Thanks very much, stephen. Its a great pleasure to have you in the studio. Let me start by trying to establish a core principle. Is it your belief that animals should enjoy equal rights, the same rights as humans . Well, not the same rights, because, of course, they dont need the right to do some of the things we wish to do, like drive a car or vote, although they might do better than weve done sometimes. But they do need the right to be respected. I think theyre living beings just like us, and so they should be understood as much as we possibly can understand them. We shouldnt inflict needless pain on them, and we should curb some of our habits that cause them a lot of suffering. Peta, your organisation, people for the ethical treatment of animals, opposes what it calls speciesism and a, quote, human supremacist worldview. Can you sort of explain what that actually means . Well, i think we have to get over ourselves as a species, as a Human Species. Weve sort of s
Welcome to hardtalk. Im stephen sackur. We humans have a complicated relationship with animals. Some we pet, some we skin, some we eat. We destroy their wild habitats while we agonise about the loss of species diversity. It is not an equal relationship, its exploitative, but will it ever change . And if so, how . My guest is determined that it should. Ingrid newkirk is president and Co Founder of the Campaign Group people for the ethical treatment of animals. Is she the Human Ally Animals need . Ingrid newkirk, welcome to hardtalk. Ingrid newkirk, welcome to hardtalk. Thanks very much, stephen. Thanks very much, stephen. Its a great pleasure its a great pleasure to have you in the studio. To have you in the studio. Let me start by trying let me start by trying to establish a core principle. To establish a core principle. Is it your belief that animals is it your belief that animals should enjoy equal rights, should enjoy equal rights, the same rights as humans . The same rights as huma
We are opposing them on that. We are opposing them on that. We are worried that in the nhs debate, they are talking about reform before investment, when we think there needs to be reform and investment. So, we will hold them to account. But we will be different from the conservatives, because being constructive means you dont do the kind of politics which people are sick of, and you also put your alternatives Forward. At the Prime Ministers questions just last week, when i was opposing the Governments Withdrawal of Winter Fuel payments, we were saying, yes, there is a financial deficit left by the tories, we agree with you on that, but there are other ways to deal with that problem, and we put them Forward. We to deal with that problem, and we put them Forward. To deal with that problem, and we put them Forward. We can go live to brighten we put them Forward. We can go live to brighten out we put them Forward. We can go live to brighten out to we put them Forward. We can go live to bri
Why President Biden is in a unique position to do something about it. Were not going to change the constitution. Were enforcing it. And former dnc chair tom perez on the state of the dems and his big announcement on running for office. All in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. Ever since human beings started congregating in institutions of what we call higher learning, colleges, universities, eve monasteries, conservatives traditionalists have been freaked out by just what dangerous ideas are being shared there. I mean, really, the whole dangerous ideas are coming out of universities is literally as old as universities themselves. It has been a core reactionary concern for millennia. Just like everything else, this old thing is new again. Which brings us to the most recent republican freakout in florida, which as you may have heard, has a governor there, ron desantis, calling the creepy Thought Police to campus. He just signed a bill that will, and ill quote