knights on the border good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin with breaking news request late today. >> today from the former president's legal team to lift the gag order. now that a jury has found him guilty in all 34 felony counts of falsifying business records to keep word of his hush money payment to stormy daniels from reaching voters in the 2016 election. as you know, gag order or not, he's already said plenty about the judge. the judge's daughter, and witnesses in the case he's now his lawyers are seeking free rein, seen as keras canal is here with the tails also joining us bestselling author and former federal prosecutors, jeffrey thuban, and retired new york judge joel kahn visor, longtime friend of the trial judge in the case. so what does the trump team want so trump's team is saying now that the trial is over and the gag order that was put in place to protect the witnesses jury from trump's comments now that it's over there saying that the judge should lift this gag order, so they write in the letter to the judge now that the trial is concluded, the concerns articulated by the government and the court do not justify continued restrictions on the first amendment rights of president trump, who remains the leading candidate in the 2024 presidential election. >> and the american people and they go on to say that they think that there's even a stronger argument now to remove it, because president joe biden has made comments on the verdict and has stormy daniels and michael cohen to the key witnesses. so the court spokesman for the judge says the order speaks for itself. the da's office has declined to comment i mean, either way, trump has not prohibited from talking about the trial, talking about the verdict. it's just he's prohibited from speaking about these witnesses and the jury. and the question will be, expect the da's office will file a response and then ultimately see what the judge does. >> geoff amuses a reasonable request. >> i think it is a reasonable request when it comes to the witnesses, the idea behind a gag order about witnesses is that you don't want to affect their testimony in any way. they are they have testified the testimony is over also, you have the main key witnesses in this case michael cohen, stormy daniels, david pecker, hope hicks, they're all public figures with access to the press themselves, up. several of them have already commented, i think it's a little different with the jury. i think judges are very protective of jurors, even after they have served, especially as such, an inflammatory situation. here and where their identities have largely been kept secret i wouldn't be surprised if the judge kept the restrictions on the jury and effect, but witnesses because i do think trump has a good point. judge. you agree with it? >> i do. i agree that it is not entirely a crazy request, but it would not be crazy for him to continue the gag order either. let's remember, the defendant is convicted, but the case has not wrapped up. the defendant is yet to be sentenced, and a judgment of conviction therefore, has not yet been entered. so i think it'd be well within his rights to do it, but i agree completely that the judge that any judge, we much more concerned about jurors than witnesses, particularly public witnesses, who have been speaking out, would that mean? >> jeff would that from a legal standpoint and even exist after whatever the sentencing is. i mean, if if can a judge have a permanent gag order protecting witnesses four, no. >> no. i mean, he his jurisdiction over this case continues as long as the case is in effect, af is pending in this case is obviously going to be appealed? >> it would then be up to the court of appeals to decide if they want to issue a gag order. frankly, i've never even heard maybe you have. i've never heard of a court of appeals issuing a gag order. so i think this only applies until the sentencing, which is now june, july 11, which is just a little more than a month away. >> so care when will this be ruled on i mean, expectation is that the da's team will respond probably pretty quickly. >> and then i would think that the judge would make a decision. i mean, he he has he has complete control of this calendar so he could decide to just not rule on it until the sentencing or he could decide to do it more quickly. there's not really an immediacy to this request is not an emergency requests of any kind in the sentencing is about six weeks away. so it's really up to the judge to decide when he's going to do that. and if he's going to wait until the end of the proceedings, judge, just in terms of the width sentencing, if the former appraisal is to violate the current gag order, how much would that play into his previous violations? how much would that play into sentencing about possible prison time or not? >> i think that's an excellent question and i say that because when it comes to sentencing, the world is the judge's oyster and can consider anything when you're when you're in a courtroom, when you're making rulings and they're coming fast and furious on evidentiary issues. it's one thing. there are rules to follow. there are really not a lot of rules in terms of sentencing. and the judge can and should look at everything, including what the defendant has said, what remorse, if any, if he's attacking witnesses the judge should consider that. i certainly would remember. >> it's he was found in contempt. i mean, that is a separate violation. >> and what was i think it was 11. >> 11 different 1010 different findings of contempt that is entirely relevant to the decision on sentencing, doesn't mean he's gonna get jail time, but it certainly pushes jail time into a more likely area, given a very serious thing that contempt of court is if thuban thanks, judge. can visor kara scannell. thanks so much. now, keep it a monocyte study in contrast, in one hearing at the capitol today, fbi director christopher wray warned of a series of domestic threats facing the country when i look back over my career in law enforcement, i would be hard-pressed to think of a time when so many different threats to our public safety and national security were so elevated all at the same time. >> but that is the case. as i sit here today those threats he told us senate panel include the potential for coordinated attack like the march ices k masker at a russian concert hall last march computer ransomware attacks and the fentanyl epidemic that was one hearing and scary though the specifics where everything else about it was fairly typical by fast over on the house, sayyed, it was anything but as republican members of the house judiciary committee, grilled director raise boss, attorney general merrick garland in their battle against what they say is a weaponized justice system targeting the former president mr attorney general. >> there's no blinking. the fact that for the first time in american history, we do have a presidential administration is working to put its opponent in jail well, as many others have reported, there's no evidence the justice department fbi investigator are several federal grand juries and judges are doing anything but their jobs and no evidence that any federal officials influenced new york authorities. >> the judge or the 12 jurors who convicted the former president but that is not stopping the allegations is seen as manu raju fanned out today you swear or affirm under penalty of per attorney general merrick garland facing off with his loudest critics on capitol hill. i will not be intimidated and the justice department will not be intimidated and calling out gop attacks that his department is behind the new york hush money case. >> that may donald trump, the first ever x president to become a convicted felon. that conspiracy theory is an attack on the judicial process itself republicans firing back, we'll the department of justice provide to the committee all documents, all correspondence between the department and alvin bragg's office and fani willis also office and letitia james, office. >> the offices you're referring to, our independent offices of state. >> i get that. i get that. de the question is, why that you will provide all of your documents in correspondence. that's the question. it's i don't need a history lesson well, i'm going to say again, we do not control those offices. >> they make their the questions indicate with them not whether you control them. >> dk communicate with them and we provide this committee make a request. >> we will refer it to our office of legislative affairs. >> the thing they come in here and you watch this attack that it's a conspiracy theory, that there is coordinated lawfare against trump. and then when we say fine, just give us the documents, give us the correspondence, and then if it's a conspiracy theory that will be evidenced, democrat said republicans were playing for an audience of one. there were about to nominate a convicted felon and they don't know how to cope with that. the gop taking aim at garland for appointing special counsel jack smith, who is leading the prosecution against trump in two federal indictments. >> your first choice? >> i'm not gonna go into the question. >> did you know him before you picked him? >> i did not. >> did he ask for the job this is not a job. >> i don't think anybody asks for. it's not that sorry. no, but that's not the question i asked you. i said did jack smith asieh not asked me for the job? no. garland today refusing to comply with the house subpoena for audio o of special counsel robert hur's interview was president joe biden over his handling of classified documents in that 388 page report, hur declined to prosecute biden citing in part, how a jury would view him as a sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory releasing the audit you would show cooperation with the department in future investigations. republicans accusing garland of protecting biden as they threatened he, attorney general with contempt of congress, is it because doj has determined the president is not mentally fit to defend himself and stand trial for his crime. but former president trump is, i say again, that's an inaccurate description. mr. hur's report under cutting the gop's criticism is the fact that two sitting democratic congressman and the president's own son, hunter, are facing three separate criminal indictments. >> so you've prosecuted democrats as we speak a hunter biden who is a son of the president, is under trial in delaware. you haven't weaponized the justice department in terms of hiding and protecting democrats menendez cuellar and hunter biden justice department follows the facts and the law now, merrick garland also faced questions from three gop congressman roy biggs, a massive right in a letter to garland in part what they say is in addition, other investigations have pointed to the fbi's possible we'll involvement in facilitating the events of january 6, they cite as evidenced in this letter, a new york post columnist peas from last year about this topic. now, it is important to point out anderson that the fbi director christopher wray, has repeatedly testified, but the fbi had absolutely no involvement in the attack on january 6, the justice department itself as prosecuted hundreds of people, many of whom pleaded guilty, admitted they are wrong, and some of them also, of course, anderson said they came to the capital because they thought they were following trump's orders, not erasure. mano. thank you. california democratic congressman adam schefter, you saw briefly in moniz report serves on the committee as a former member of the select committee on january 6, he's more than qualified to speak to allegations about the fbi's role on that day. i mean, i guess i shouldn't be surprised, but it is i mean, it's still just strikes me as bizarre that so many house republicans keep pushing a debunk claim that the fbi played a role in facilitating the events in january 6, it is crazy and they know better and they continue to push all of these conspiracy theories. we heard today as jim jordan, matt gaetz, and others tried to suggest that the justice department or the president was behind the manhattan da's prosecution. they understand how the court says some works. they know that the federal system is completely separate and distinct from a local prosecutor's office like that. i'm manhattan matt gaetz for his own part as all too much experience in the criminal justice system, being the subject of sex trafficking case so they understand how the system works, but they wish to mislead the public they want. us somehow obscured the fact that they're about to be nominee is now a convicted felon and they're willing to tear down the justice system and do what ever is necessary in the service of that deeply flawed human being. you said that in the hearing that's what you think is at the heart of this, that they're freaked out essentially over trump's conviction and are trying to figure out how to deal with it absolutely. and not just in committee, but so many of them in fact when they were holding merrick garland and contempt, a couple of weeks ago they had many members absence, some of which were absent because they weren't manhattan standing outside the courthouse, essentially paying field t once again to donald trump. they hope to avert a conviction now that there are multiple, multiple convictions they're just tearing everything down and doing such enormous damage. you'll one of the questions i didn't have a chance to ask merrick garland today. is what's the effect in courthouses around the country undoubtedly. and i've heard this from prosecutors. you have defendants making the trumpian argument that they're prosecutions r0, which on their a hoax there a sham attacking the fbi. and the same language that donald trump, it is enabled on the committee are using. and this is really undermining the rule of law everywhere. >> the level of dysfunction in these hearings. i mean, we've seen look for for a long time. we've seen in hearings like this politicians on all sides of the aisle, grandstanding, playing for cameras and stuff like that. but just in your experience, how does it compare now to what you have seen or we've all seen in the past well it is just a whole another order of magnitude of deterioration in the past, you would have kind of a one-off member here are there who said stuff that was just plain crazy? >> now, it is just routine and there is this, i think pernicious competition among members of the gop, both as to who can essentially kiss dog trump's brass ring. more demonstrably than the other or just say the most extreme things, it's become a venue for really a form of viral performance. i'm its art. >> and it won't, it won't continue this way in definitely, i think when trump leaves the stage for good, which i hope will be a november, i think the temperature comes down. but nevertheless, we're seeing what people are really made of congressman schiff, i proceed, your time. thank you so much. more perspective now from john miller or chief law enforcement intelligence analyst and a veteran of the fbi in new york police department how i mean, is there a real-world threat based on these kind of conspiracy theories? does it actually is actually dangerous well, it is because what we saw today and not the first time anderson, i think as congressman can find it out is the difference between acute and non conspiracy chat room with the crazy de conspiracy theories that have been spawned. >> a congressional hearing has narrowed now to almost nil. why is that concerning if you're the justice department, if you're the fbi there are people out there because this is the lai oft repeated just becomes some kind of truth there are people out there that these investigators will be interviewing, will be seeing would be investigating where they expect that trust and confidence in the fbi and the justice department and this foments, these doubts, these are sworn oath taking career civil servants. i worked in the fbi. i dealt with the department of justice every day. these are people who as i did, worked for republicans, worked for democrats. and will work for republicans and democrats today. and to the fbi academy, a sheriff gave me an expression a long time ago, and he said, if you're going to go wrestle with a pig, you're both going to get mud on you. the difference is the pig likes it when these people go before congress and they take that oath to tell the truth, the people asking these questions they don't have after have the truth. the question is the stunt do do i mean you talked to people in the doj, the fbi. >> i'm sure all the time. does this have an impact on morale? >> oh, it does. and you know why they know that. what's being said isn't true they know that the hearing is essentially race for this kind of showmanship, but they also know that when they get out of the car to walk up there walkway, their neighbors are looking at them and wondering like, is that the justice department that joe works at? is that the fbi that bill serves in and it affects morale, especially because they take the so seriously if you listen to merrick garland's last words, in his statement, he said, i will not be intimidated and the justice department will not be intimidated we will continue to do our job free of political influence or fear and that is what they're counting on. its it's you think works. i mean, do you think they are intimidated well, i think that it has an effect when you're working on a case and they tell you, you follow the facts. the case is the boss don't worry about politics. when you, when you see your political masters, your elected officials, accusing the fbi of being behind january 6 singling out individual agents and prosecutors and saying they are behind conspiracies by naming them, 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try to do this exact thing in 2018 using the same authority, but was eventually blocked by the courts. now, of course, the timing here is notable, were only a few weeks away from the first presidential debate and voters rank immigration as one of their top issues. and this is a president who has been slammed repeatedly by republicans and democrats over his handling of the us mexico border. so taken together today, really amount let's do a significant policy shift for this white house, which began its administration, saying it wanted to restore asylum and is now working to shut that valve off for some migrants. so all of this anderson just clearly an indication of the president trying to blunt republican attacks and preempt his republican rival on the campaign trail. >> and it seems likely there'll be cordial challenges. >> that's exactly right. the aclu already saying they plan to take this to court to challenge an in court. they did that during the trump administration and they had 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hours this morning. and as that executive action was coming into play, he wanted to show us the crisis firsthand keeping up with. corey, go to row is a challenge, especially on dirt roads as the sun sets on the california, mexico border. he's gotten word. migrants have just crossed or legend, as you can actually see if they just brought up a border patrol van i and they'll load them up on that van and continue on it to processing centers. >> i mean, you see this pretty regularly, i assume two is this new people that come out and see this firsthand. >> it's a shock to them. it's very confusing still confusing to me, but it's not necessarily a shock. this is just everyday life. you're now here is san diego county inquiry is not border patrol, but an army veteran who admits he's become obsessed with understanding this migration surge and it's very frustrating to watch this stuff happened in my backyard when we have veterans in our country who don't have homes don't have health care i feel like we should prioritize some things so for the cell phone connection, kory's began collecting what migrants leave behind. most surprisingly, passports and ids. it's mexican immigration altogether use at hundreds of ids where did keep them secret location where is it on the way there cory stops and points out vulnerabilities in the border wall places. he says smugglers, direct migrants to cross and he shows us remnants of recent camp sites so this is, as you see it, a collection that represents the migration crisis impacting the us right now in the san diego sectors specifically. so you've got a group from china, got other parts of south america central america, south america here. credit cards as well. >> what do you make of all this i don't know. i don't know what you make of it and it's just kind of insanity that people will leave these personal documents behind and why collect them each one of these people has a story, whether that story is coming here for asylum or coming here to have a better life, or come here for nefarious reasons? they've all going to store in recent weeks query along with friends who don't want to be on camera, have documented what they've seen. >> this thermal camera video appearing to capture a smuggler dropping off large group, then taking off here, the desert nightfall brings freezing tempts. migrants often burn whatever might bring them some warm we join corey after just a few hours of sleep. he's heading out at 4:00 a.m. to see what might happen in the hours leading up to biden's executive action aimed to limit border crossings we don't try to keep my finger on the pulse because it changes so rapidly with the sunup query drives us to a path where most migrants are now believed to be entering here through brian syllabus his property on the weekends, just like two or three big big groups go have room where which way or my way he's even pointed out to us signs that have gone up in recent weeks you can see different languages, asylum and the arrow pointing this way and then along the way, there these ribbons you can see when in this bush that then give migrants and indication of which direction they should keep going just after we part ways with query, we see one migrant who's taken that path walking alone where are you from from turkey. >> and where he tells us the direction he's going. here. we see a group that's now pulled over there by this truck. they're getting in this, right? we drive on and find dozens more staggered along the dirt road egyptian. >> welcome to egypt ecuador, colombia brazil china. >> this mom and her young daughters, waviness down hoping we might be border patrol i'm turkey from turkey. >> they're all headed the same direction. >> he says he's going to walk up here and i stick a lord no save. now, just it's hot, but he says he's got a hurry along because he's going to then continue on to an immigration official to start the process. for asylum. >> brian says life and ecuador was becoming 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law. it doesn't matter who you are or what your name is. prosecutors also had to address the sensitive and ubiquitous topic of addiction, an issue central to this case. and one that the majority of potential jurors said they had experience with either directly or with a loved one addiction may not be a choice, but buying a gun is defense attorneys tried to shift the focus to hunter state of mind. >> they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that hunter knowingly violated the law inferring that have hunter was going through periods of sobriety amid his addiction? >> it could be reasonable for him, did not know he was breaking the law, but indicating on a federal gun buying form that he was not using or addicted to drugs. his defense attorney said hunter didn't have much interest in buying a gun and the salesmen lead hunter two guns while he was browsing other items at least one juror was seen dabbing her eyes during the defense opening and during the testimony of the first witness, an fbi agent the jury heard long portions of hunter biden's memoir, which he narrated detailing his addiction to drugs. >> i possessed a new superpower the ability to find crack and anytown at anytime, no matter how familiar with the terrain it was easy prosecutors also introduced electronic evidence, including the infamous laptop and text messages from several devices some of those text messages said to be about his efforts to get drugs and meet with dealers in 2018 were also shown to the jury in one text, hunter allegedly wrote asap, if you can, another reading, can you come this way now? >> and a text from another alleged contacts to hunter singh you want ten grams the jury also saw several images of drugs that the fbi agent testified were found on hunters devices. they also saw the atf form where hunter allegedly lied to purchase the firearm prosecutors also spent time detailing the large amounts of cash hunter withdrew on a daily basis in 2018, around the same time, he purchased 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that your daughter gave birth? to a little boy yeah. >> i have. you became a grandmother and the same day you had exactly mine was not planned, but hers wasn't planned but it's been an incredible journey teddy, his name, and we face time every morning before lily goes to work and it's just been it's makes every day great. >> no matter what happens. we're growing our hair out together because i lost all live and learning to verbalize things together. so it's been, it's been a great experience and i love him more than anything so you are still you are still in you are fighting for your health, but you also still fighting for women around the country well i am i think we all have to do what we can do and it's a meaningful i spent my life doing work that was rewarding and i've so privileged there have been able to do jobs that i thought made a difference what do you think the likelihood if donald trump has is re-elected that a federal abortion ban would be signed i think it's totally likely if the republicans control the congress and donald trump has reelected there's no way i can assign an abortion ban. he is the reason we're in this fix his first term was responsible for three justices on the supreme court that voted to overturn roe created chaos and really thinkable situations for women and no doubt about it. he would sign any bill that he came to his desk where do you see the where the frontline battles now? >> this next year, do you think well, there there'll be ballot initiatives on states that could preserve the right to abortion in arizona and florida. those are critical and it's interesting donald trump's line now is states rights the, he just wants to leave it to the states. well, i've been in the states and it's not a pretty picture there was just a story last year about a 12-year year-old girl and mississippi. so i know you know, you have experienced in mississippi, she was raped sexually assaulted in her front yard by a stranger and the her mother couldn't get her to chicago to get an abortion so she started seventh grade this fall with a newborn and that's what states rights means for so many women. so i'd like to ask donald trump, is that what you see is the future for women in america? >> given what you personally are facing a lot of people in your situation might just focus on your health and focus on your family and taking the best care of yourself as possible. you're you're still out fighting the fight i mean, it's so important to me, but i'm i do spend a lot of time with my family. >> i care about them. i'm so proud of each of them i have three kids, grown kids, and they're all like following their passions, but i was raised in a family that believed you just that public service was a value and you are your mother's daughter if only but she used to say one others and richard? yes. yes, i am am richards daughter and i love to think that lily, just my daughter, just had an richard's first great grandchild. but teddy but mom 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man in a white shirt facing off against a column of tanks. brave loan act of defines his name and face remained a mystery. no official death toll was ever released by the chinese government, but human rights groups estimated was in the hundreds, if not thousands cnn's will ripley has done extensive reporting. china tonight, he joins us from taipei, taiwan so can you just remind people of what this enter anniversary represents that will in june 4, 1989, 35 years ago, we don't know, as you said, how many people were massacred in gentlemen squared, these were young. >> some of the best and brightest minds in china who were out protesting for democracy, protesting for an end to government corruption and their calls were brutally suppressed by the people's liberation army. the day after this video. and that iconic photo, which has been since known as tank man, we don't know the name of this man who looks like he was just walking to work and stood in front of a column of tanks. they were shooting bullets above his head, trying to get him to get out of the way even getting these photos to the rest of the world was was quite an ordeal because at that time beijing was shutting down all live transmission. cnn had to hide its videotapes in the us embassy before tours smuggled them in a suitcase and flew them to hong kong, which at that time was free to report about this. it's very a different situation today and the photo, the most famous one there were about six of them, but the most famous was jeff weiner of the api. they had to smuggle the film in a canister hidden in the photographer shoe just to get these images to the world, but they remain not only iconic to this day, but i think for a lot of people, a symbol of the individual standing up to the power of the state. >> and we're showing you the color bars that is happening in china right now. we're being censored as soon as we mentioned, as i said in the tie's. but for the commercial break that we're gonna be talking about, gentleman square, these color bars went up and the signal is now being blocked. so tim vigils have also obviously been banned in china. what security been like, they're well, obviously there's always heavy security at tenement square. >> there's heavy security in hong kong at victoria park where up until 2020 there were protests every year, sometimes 150,000 people. this year, they arrested for people to men, two women, ages 23269. that's basically all that's left of any commemoration of tenement square and hong kong. and yeah, as you see from the color bar, is china has essentially tried to erase this moment, this date, june 4, 1989, from its history, i have friends who grew up in china who are highly educated people, but they didn't even know what about the gentlemen square massacre until they moved out of the country