watch more fareed zakaria documentaries on macs criminal appeal there was a rigged trial. >> these are bad people. nobody's ever seen anything like it. >> trump's conviction in injects uncertainty into the race don't get angry, don't get too pressed, get even success is the best revenge the former president faces potential prison time ended tide of support. >> this is big given me, this is bigger than my presidency. >> how is this verdict reverberating nationwide? plus reckless, reckless, dangerous. >> it's irresponsible for anyone to say this was greg, just because they don't like the verdict. >> biden breaks his silence on the trial can democrats capitalize on the conviction? >> and one-on-one, former speaker kevin mccarthy joins us. >> lie in an exclusive interview on the fallout from this week. and the infighting plaguing the gop inside politics and best reporting from inside the corridors of power starts now good morning thanks for joining us for inside politics sunday i'm on a raja, which is five months. it's all election day. >> one of the major parties nominees is now a convicted felon, potentially facing prison time but how much will that actually matter to swing voters in november? >> at one thing is clear donald trump's base is all fired up in many gop lawmakers are falling in line. a trump racked up tens of millions of dollars in donations after that new york jury of 12 americans convicted him on all 34 felony counts in his hush money criminal trial. but one thing we do not know for sure this morning is whether it might influence undecided voters, especially on the margins in those key battleground states where the outcome could be razor thin now, new polling taken shortly after the verdict came out, shows the biden trump rematch actually remains neck and neck with no clear leader. and last night, trump was spotted in an ultimate fighting championship about in new jersey but he stayed off the campaign trail this weekend although he did speak with fox news in an interview that this morning let's be decide to say, hey, house arrest or even jail. >> they couldn't face what that does. i'm okay with it. i one of my loyalty of the day on television saying, oh no, you don't want to do that to the i don't get a bag for anything you've just the way it is. i don't know that the public would stand it i don't i'm not sure that the public would stand four with a house arrest for i think i think it'd be tough for the public to take a certain point. there's a breaking point all right, let's break this all down with our great panel this morning. cnn's paula reid, susan glasser from the new yorker axis is hans nichols and tamara keith of npr. good morning, everybody. it's been busy especially for you. you've been working nonstop, so it's great for you to be here to break down what's happening in this trial? what would, that same interview was asked about whether or not he would take this to the supreme court directly, didn't quite answer about that, but this is all the political calendar, the legal calendar is all converging the cnn debate is on june 27th. then there's a trump sentencing on july 11 that is just four days before the republican national convention. you talked to the league go team all the time. paola, what is your sense of how they're playing to pursue this appeal and whether this sentencing date will try to ask to move it. >> so it's interesting. i'm seeing a shift in the past few days mean throughout the course of this trial, certainly the 2024 race was a factor, but you never heard todd blanche mentioned it in court? yes, he mentioned it and litigation about moving trial. and of course, in the gag order litigation. but inside that courtroom, the 2024 race was not a factor. now, going forward through the appeals and sentencing, it is the factor because some of his political advisers believed that having this sentencing just a few days before the convention is ideal to help continue to frame him as a martyr. but his legal team is going to be you bogged down, dealing with the classified documents case and a big hearing on that in late june. >> so it's unclear right now if they're going to move to try to postpone that july 11 sentencing just real quickly at that, if the appeals process plays out, do we expect that could get settled before the election in as a tight timeline given the process in new york, i don't think it will be settled before the november election. >> and again, this is the only criminal trial he's going to face before the november election. but there are some legitimate questions to be appealed here. do i think the entire case will be overturned that's a long shot, but there are absolutely issues to raise one of the big questions of course, is what this means for voters kopan november, there was a flash bullet taken right after the verdict, doesn't mean a lot more polling. >> we'll see what that actually means. this one pull from a reuters ipsos about how people would vote 14% of republicans say they wouldn't vote for trump with the conviction there were 58% of independence, of course it's gonna be the key number to watch come november, there was a shift though among republicans pretrial versus post-trial, 24% before the trial. so they would now over dropping his convicted. that's down for just 14% now. so clearly there's been a shift among republicans falling in line, but ultimately where those swing voters fall you know, manner, it's it's a familiar pattern now, after eight years in which republicans asked in a generic sense, is this unthinkable? they say absolutely yes, this is unthinkable. we could never do it. how could we have a president in the united states who does this? then trump does exactly the unthinkable thing and they find ways at least millions of them too. to rationalize and justify. so i'm not surprised that those numbers have gone down the question is, even if there's one or two or 3% of republicans for whom the label of convicted felon is absolutely unacceptable. remember retirements such a close election here that it really matters only in a few key battleground states it's not going to be 17% of republicans who abandoned donald trump. now, after everything that we've already seen, the question i have is whether there's enough who simply can't stomach the idea of having a convicted felon as the president of the united states and the question has been also about how the white house, how president biden was dealing with as we've seen, a shift i guess they'd been quiet. >> biden said virtually nothing about this criminal trial then that campaigns on a bunch of surrogates out to new york including robert de niro to attack trump. and then there was the president making statements on friday after the verdict came out saying he was reckless to criticize such a verdict, but there's a real debate within the democratic party about how far the go, whether to embraces what are the campaign on the fact that they are running against a convicted felon just a good debate among some key people in the democratic party, doug jones, a former senator, telling political so i don't think there's anything to lose. and a lot to gain because i'm convinced as a swath of people out there, who are going to be very troubled at this point and haven't really completely followed wondered about then all of a sudden this is a game changer suggesting that perhaps they should embrace it. that's what democratic strategists james carville also told the new york times so you cover the windows terminal? i do what is the biden campaign thinking about how to embrace this or what are they just going to let the chips fall where they may yeah. i mean, i think that there is a fight among democrats about how hard to lean into this the way the biden campaign sees it, is that this is one point in a larger case, that they don't think that they can just make their message convicted felon. that's not enough and so they they need to make it part of this larger question of democracy. and trump's position on abortion and some of these other issues that they are trying to drive leading into that first debate. they don't think that they can just sit back and say, oh, yeah this is going to come up because no, it's firing up the base obviously. but the question is, those those those like zombie nikki haley, voters who voted for her in pennsylvania, even though she wasn't running any, if they win, some of them if biden loses one of the things that people will say should he have been talking about these criminal trials earlier or at all? >> look, i suspect if biden loses the monday morning quarterbacking will be just you know, it will it'll be everything. right. and there will be a variety of decision points and we can, we can game that out later. thank to tamp way, two things can be true. one the president isn't going to totally lean into this, and i suspect will eventually here from the campaign or hear more from the campaign, the two words that we're all discussing, which is convicted felon, how much will they lean into that? but the other part that could be true is that the president can continue to do what he did on friday, which just talking about trump's reaction. he's not actually getting into the weeds of the trial. he's not actually making a judgment on the case. he's talking about how the president is reacting. i think one way to look at this is how biden is thinking about it in terms of when they talk about the. case, they talk about oh, this is really about democracy in influence. this wasn't just a hush money case, and that's the main point that you aren't you're going to hear from the biden campaign, is that this isn't hush money. this is about democracy, this is about stealing and election. this is a about what they want to make 2024 about, and they not just this case, and they tie it into the broader narrative. and can they reach out to some of those disaffected voters who are just tuned out of politics, who could decide the election that's one of the things that's been a dynamic that's been playing out as they've been looking. this is how a nikola, the new york times reports at the polls have shown donald trump with an edge for a straight months, but there's one big flashing warning signs suggesting that his advantage might not be as stable as it looks that warning sign his narrowly is built on gains among voters who are not paying close attention to politics who don't follow traditional news and who don't regularly vote. so will they be convinced by this or will they be doing things what biden is doing on tuesday? he's announcing executive actions on the border. they're trying to focus on some of those other issues. how will those voters obviously it's hard to cast one would say one fell, swoop, say how these all people a vote, but what is the right strategy if for the biden campaign to get those voters? >> well i think this is the question in many ways of this election. how do you break through? two people who have tuned out by the way, across the political spectrum in this country. i think it's almost media consumption. you could argue that is the defining kind of demographic question. the people who are just getting their news from social media at this point have very different political views. it turns out, then the rest of america, but i think i'm watching whether and how the idea of a conviction does break through. there certainly anecdotal evidence to suggest that people obviously we're not watching this on tv. it wasn't on tv, but that this idea of the conviction did break through. but just one important point it seems to me is that it's not just well, how's biden doing? how's trump people doing reacting to this, like the escalation and the radicalization that we've seen this week. it is a historic moment to have a former president in the united states convicted and then the response which has been something different, a full-out attack on the legal system itself that's different than what we've seen even in 2016 and 2020 when he from trump and his supporters in paul before we get a break because we get into the sentencing discussion trump has been attacking one merge on the judge, relentlessly. does that factor in do they get tomorrow john's decision? >> look, my law license is a little desk but it is not a good idea to attach the judge who is about to sentence you i think juan merchan understands who he is dealing with. i don't think personal attacks are going to factor in a lack of remorse of violations of the gag order. his overall conduct throughout this trial that will likely factor in, but i don't think won version takes things too personally and understands the larger calculus or absence. one thing you advise your client not to do attacked the judge will say. >> all right. >> next, it might surprise you to learn how some of the country's most vulnerable republicans are talking about the trump conviction plus former speaker kevin mccarthy joins me live for an exclusive interview. how does he see what's happening this party right now? 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if you'd like, you think a convicted felon on the top of the ticket if you're in a swing district, you'd run away from it. but these members are not in most those reported, most republicans are on the record where they are in donald trump, right? republicans that represent trump districts have had to face these questions. these are biden district or excuse me, my mistake. biden districts. i misspoke in the by districts to me. i think it's an interesting question. what they do. i think it's also so what's going to happen the senate, where you have tester and brown who both represent states that trump clearly one and they been pretty silent as well. and i suspect this is your urgent task when they arrived when they're back in, i suspect there's going to be a capital that reported that we all know that who has the microphone and you have a camera and it will play around the hole. and we'll put those and we'll put those those centers on the record because that to me is more interesting. simply because republicans have dealt with this really since the beginning of the trump era. i mean, i suspect when former speaker mccarthy's here, trump would say something are more likely he would tweet something and republicans would have to respond and they can have muscle memory at this point. it's not valid at difficult for them and most of them, which is to say, all of them have just decide to say that it's donald trump. i'm with them. yeah. you mentioned those two senators, brown and tested. we do a statements that they gave allowed to m the aftermath of this this verdict we know saying they respect the judicial process that we're certainly not embracing it it does show you that the line that they are walking these vulnerable member democrats in these red states they want to make it about a cantilevers candidate issue. they don't want to talk about trump, even if that may turn off trump's verdict may turn off some swing voters. >> yeah, they they they want to talk about how they are a perfect match for their state and how they are, they're going to run. they're going to run their race their high time. they've gotten their buzz cut, whatever his height here. it's called. >> but no, they are they are focused on on their race and not on trump because talking about trump might motivate their base. but guess what, they're based in their states is too small to win. they, they need to just be senator brown who you've known for years, and they also need split ticket voters, of course, and that is a real, real problem when it doesn't happen that much these days an open question of whether they even still exist. absolute outside of main speaking, as somebody needs to split ticket voter needs one, larry hogan. he's the a former maryland governor. >> he can actually pick up democratic seat in a blue state. he'd said simply, let's respect the verdict. he put out this statement, but right before the verdict it was announced, said, i urge all americans respect the verdict it seems middle of the road. you now okay. when i'm oh, here's chris lacivita, one of the top aides to the former president. you just ended your campaign he posted it just shows you how some of these members are in a tough spot if they want to just you take the high road no such thing menu. >> i appreciate you pointing that went out because to me, it more than anything else sums up like if it's controversial, the old cliche is like, i never thought i would be nostalgic for a politician seeing comforting much. but let's be real. you know, it is a sign of our times that we've gotten to the point where other republicans are ganging up on a former governor of maryland for saying you know, the system works, we should respect the work of this jury and the work of this court. and i do think that it's important to take a breath, not everybody is living inside the news cycle here let's appreciate for a moment that we're at a place where the republican party institutionally has decided to become so wrapped up in the fate of one particular individual. they are willing to attack the system itself and not something that none of us have ever seen. >> but larry hogan annuities doing it, right? i mean, he had at that statement well-drafted, well-prepared. right. and i mean, that was clearly wants to create separation between himself and donald trump and chris lacivita, who i suspect didn't get any approval for that is just like not right and i do think there is a constructive way for republicans and trump allies to go after this case. you can point out the fact that it was only brought after alvin bragg face considerable political pressure, right? >> the so-called zombie case that many other prosecutors had passed on, his is nearly 10-years-old and trump lawyers will be the first people to tell you there was no way he was going to get acquitted by a manhattan jury. and there are a lot of legitimate questions about political pressure on elected district attorney's, how that can impact us in the future. but throwing the entire legal system out based on this, yeah, that's a bridge too far. >> it's interesting you mentioned about that because yes, there's jim jordan who is the house judiciary committee chairman is calling on alvin bragg and another prosecutor in the case to come testify on june 13. others are going trump allies going after i'm hard and the senate, senator mike lee and others are saying that they want to hold up everything, all action in the senate out of protests about what's happening here. and then some say it is time for a full on retribution, like congressman ronnie jackson as a member of congress and for many of my colleagues, the game just changed yesterday. it absolutely changed. what's good for the goose is good for the gander. i'm going to encourage all of my colleagues and everybody that i have any influence over as a member of congress to aggressively go after the president is entire family, is entire crime family for all of the misdeeds that are out there. and then related to this family i mean, that's talking about the reservation. yeah. it's amazing that this person wants served in the white house of the united states. >> yeah. and look, this all comes to as the president, the united states is another issue, is sudden is facing. criminal trial starting this week, you'll covering that frehse, paula, how do you sense that will play out? how quickly will verdict rage? how strong of a case does the prosecution now so this is the first of two criminal prosecutions that hunter biden will face over the next six months. >> this case is related to the participant gun or prosecutors alleged that he failed to disclose that he was an addict at the time he purchased it later on in the year. he's expected to face a separate criminal trial at tax charges. well, if these were supposed to be resolved with the plea deal, that imploded and it's interesting you hear from a hunter biden's defense attorneys, a lot of things in here from trump's defense attorneys and the ones that you know, play attorneys on tv arguing that this is election interference, that he would not be charged to this if his name, last name was not biden, we expect this could go several days, maybe even two weeks. it depends really how long it takes to seat a jury, because you can imagine the challenge and wilmington, delaware of finding people who have no connection, right? or no opinion in about the bidens is unclear what the outcome will be here, but there's a lot of tension between the special counsel and hunters defense lawyers. >> it will be nowhere near as as prominent as the trump trial, but a lot of similar themes. and how does this where on biden president biden? yes president biden is very close to a hunter biden. they talk all the time. this weekend. they're rehoboth beach as a family, riding bikes and president biden will actually be in france when the trial, when the jury selection begins, he'll be on his way to france four for a state visit and to commemorate d-day. but the president, i have he has told me this directly, that if a child of his rings on the phone, he drops everything that has been his standard mo going back to when he was in the senate because of the car accident that killed part of his family and hunter is his surviving son from them. and we'll see if he ways it on the verdict when it is reach. all right. thanks for that, guys coming up former house speaker kevin mccarthy joins me lie. >> i'll bless next for trump and the republican party. >> and his thoughts on how is 60 assessor has been handling his old role. state two hey, mom, how many should i decorated? 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is it a good idea for the republican party to nominate a convicted felon lesson is it a good idea that the donald trump is the nominee? the answer is 100%. yes, we'll donald trump win this presidency. the answer is yes and it's interesting, i was watching the earlier part of your show and i get it. the verdict has just come in and the question is, should an even have gone to trial? the majority of americans understand that if donald trump did not run for president, this never would've been gone for trial. the de before decided not to do this the department of justice decided not to do this. the fec said there was no problem have a statue of limitations. you have a judge that wasn't selected at random. what's actually selected? you've tried it in the second most biden county in the entire nation, you have the rulings within the judge to the instructions to the jury, which people continue to question. so is it political? similarly motivated? yes. what still but the end of the result is still conviction, right? >> so i'm asked about the political impact because 12 americans, so i know that before he doesn't top americans on a jury did come to that decision? yes, it's firing up the base but what about independent voters? what about the suburban voters are going to be so critical there are you not concerned that this could turn women voters, for instance i think this is the part that cn is missing this is a reelection of joe biden for president an npr poll says that the majority of americans 53% to 42 of just independence, not republicans or democrats believe another four years of joe biden is a threat to democracy joe biden is running on democracy is on the ballot. biden economics, these are the two driving things that people are opposed to. do people want four more years of this. this is where people are missing really what is going on with the american public. they're concerned about the border massachusetts does not have one republican in congress or massachusetts, but you know what the state of emergency the governor selected a massachusetts, the border. you talked to the mayor of new york, the governor new york. it be the border inflation. >> so you're basically saying you're saying this is not going to matter to voters and calmness. not as much as i can put an asterisk there because it's still new people will have some concerns about it, but it's not going to determine this election. i think at the end of the day, democrats have overplayed their hand and it happens in world history when someone persecutes a political enemy simply because there are political enemy, it usually backfires on them and it creates a movement. but when early indication if you go for the amount of money raised just look at the cheery out that the president that's on the base, that's the base. i'm talking about i'm telling you i want to ask before you go on, let me i was just traveling california raising money for the party in all the cities and i was with people who did not support trump. i was people who gave money against trump and republicans unspoken to me. they said i'm giving to trump this is unbelievable. what's happening? >> it's pushing, it's going all the other around. >> i can ask you though about just underlying allegations of this trial. lucky allegedly paid off a porn star to keep an extramarital affair. >> quiet. does that conduct concern you look, i think people knew about this before the last election. >> i don't think this is something they didn't know that he painted are off. okay. but from this standpoint, if you go with this premise and that this is something illegal what was in the law that this broke then you would go back and should hillary clinton be tried because she paid a law firm to create a fictitious russia issue. and i'm not i know you're not talking about that, but but the american public is going to look at all this is, this isn't just a cnn question. >> you're asking. what does the american public look at? you had, you had joe biden go out and tear of the american public that the laptop wasn't true. you had this network, say, a dubious doubtful about it. so i mean people put it in perspective, was this politically motivated that you even took them to court about this? the answer is one well, i wanted i want you to listen to what your predecessor paul ryan says about former president i understand the binary argument. >> it's a reasonable argument. i just don't agree with that argument i just characters two important to me and it's a job that requires the kind of character that he just doesn't matter. he's talking about trump there it says, is it's not about policy essentially it says one character. he says it's about character. >> why don't you agree? look, i would because everybody is entitled to their own a kenyan and you know what i've served with both presidents, with president trump and president biden. and i'm making a decision on what's best for the country. >> we didn't have inflation, we didn't have war in europe. >> we didn't have five embassies evacuated. we didn't have 13 goldstar families by miss decision in afghanistan. we didn't have this new axis of evil that we haven't seen from the 1930s, pushing i'm wondering eric jholar centers, but there's a whole support. >> and is there a character matter when you say biden used his own power to tell the american public that the laptop was not true, that biden use now that through the secretary of state to go to 51 people in the intel immunity former cia directors to tell the american public that that wasn't sure because i'm used character there, but not care about trump. but i'm weighing it all. i'm being consistent. you're being inconsistent in this. if you listen, think for one moment, you're saying only character matters and you only going after trump people are human in this place of where we go. this is a decision of an issue that people knew about since 2016. so they voted on it. you're going back to something ten years. so if character matters, would you put somebody up on trial just because they're your political enemy? i think that matters into care. >> i wonder because obviously you've aligned yourself with the former president after january 6, you were on the floor or criticizing them, you went down to mar-a-lago about week or so later, you people say that helped rehab ham help set them on the trajectory to where we are today. when you look back at that moment, do you believe that helps donald trump move back, move rehab, bring it back to acceptance about morse stablished republic. >> i don't know if i was all powerful if it rehab them and because i was with them, that that's not a negative thing. i mean, i think people rehab is a positive understanding of where people are regardless of where they are, whatever happened in their lives. so you're making me that powerful, so you are that's me. >> wow so while you were almost as speaker last, but then the majority of you did, that's true trump has not said if he would accept the results of the election. do you think that he shot just be given what happened last time? shouldn't say you say i think everybody i think hillary clinton should accept the 20th as you can see this. come on now, you know, i've watched it time and again to the day after she could never i watch raskin. i've watched these the abrams so why in the crowds have challenged this is a question you should have for democrats as well. i know what network i'm on, but this is what's interesting to me. >> we asked that why. >> i always say yes or no answer question, come on so nervous democrats have challenged every single republican elected president since george bush raskin challenge that even trump should be impeached before he was even sworn in i mean, this is a question that for the whole american public, that we've got to get beyond this so just a should trump example i think every american should accept the results. >> he would be an american. all right so we'll have a lot. >> clinton two. >> yes, that's right. all right. we have a lot more to discuss, especially what happened in the aftermath of that boat for me to go power. so we'll be back stick with us former house speaker the stanley cup by vicariously through hockey imagine a future where plastic is not wasted. >> but instead remade over and over into the things that keep our food fresher our families safer and our planet cleaner to help us get there america's plastic makers are investing billions of dollars to create innovative products and new recycling technologies for sustainable change because when you push for smarter solutions, week things can happen you find the perfect fathers thing good symbol, just type wt.com. whether tech has hundreds of premium products that will keep dad's vehicle looking. it's bad like laser measure for liners cargo, leinz, and seat protector for extra interior protection. sunshade walks harmful uv rays, the cupp bone perfectly secured his phone while driving order these american made products or gift card the wt.com, happy father's day i have moderate to severe crohn's disease. >> now, they're sky rosie, things. look in afghans in control and cosines and been things and feel significant symptom relief at four weeks with tyrosine including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements. sky rosie is the first il-23 inhibitor that can deliver remission and visibly improved damage of the intestinal lining and the majority of people experienced long-lasting remission at one year. >> serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms had a vaccine or plan to liver problems may occur and crohn's disease now's the time to ask your gastroenterologists tell you? 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when you see them, this function, you see the dysfunction. what i mean they all do for different things. >> i mean, the one liter, it's just trying to protect themselves because i'm an ethics committee and so that's what it's all about. yeah. >> yeah. but you are working with republican outside. we're trying to oust to defeat some of these members in their primaries. and gates being one of them or you wanna political vengeance store. >> no, i know. i know you guys tried to say that. now, last week i went to los angeles, orange county, san diego raising money for the republican party. i've been out but it wasn't easy building this majority when i was elected leader, nancy pelosi was elected speaker. we want a majority by five when republicans in the senate lost both cycles, republican governors, legislators we want five new seats in california, five in new york. i'm proud of that fact and it's a tough majority with other this cycle it's easier for republicans to win this cycle than the last two cycles. and we want both, you want gates to lose clearly you're supporting as well. why do you want him out? just because it's simply because he led the charge to i just don't think gates as a conservative. i mean, if you think about it, if there's anybody who should go to trial, i mean, gates's one who should be convicted at the trial. >> what do you said, well, we all know the challenge jerry, you can't sleep with under age women and thank you, can get away with it. he denies that. >> well, the women don't. and so there's people in jail because of it. and i think that's a place that people should have a court. i just don't think that is an individual's should be represented in congress, but i don't think the constituents would want that either. >> now, trump has endorsed him and nancy mace, who is another one of those republicans who voted dallas to you are you disappointed that the former president, of the people in that district can make those decisions. i saw president trump enjoys state senator john maguire and navy seal in virginia against bob good. i think that's a very important race, especially a navy seal like john maguire, state senator in virginia. that's served as countries willing to serve again, trying to help some of the people who pushed you out. >> that's all right. everybody has their own opinion. >> i just want to get back down. the mike johnson front. he did realize why light on democrats to pass a lot of his agenda do you think that he can remain as speaker in the next congress yeah. >> listen to remain speaker. you got to keep the majority. so you've got to expand the majority and the one thing if you look at the last two cycles, all these political pundits said we would lose seat last time biden was on the ballot everybody projected that i would lose 15 seats. >> they got the party he got the number right. >> but the party wrong. it was the first time since 1994? no republican laws. >> but do you think that he might johnson isn't effective speaker. >> he's doing the best job we can as he goes through this, it's not an easy job, but winning seats solves a lot of problems. remember, joe biden won the last presidency by 48,918 votes is favorability was plus ten is -20. now before people would say they're six to seven swing states. now, this has expanded. if you looked at the virginia and new hampshire there now tied in the presidential race, minnesota looks like it's in play. >> you look at the youth vote is now with trump. >> you look at the hispanic vote and the black american vote. this is an opportunity for republicans. they even the expand further than they have for, they've got open seats in michigan slotkin that we came close to winning will pick up that spanberger will pick up three seats in north carolina. we can pick up alaska. this could be a tendency games. >> so it sounds like you don't think that the push to oust you has heard the republican party now, look, it's an individual within their, the party is bigger than any individual i think you've got to have a party that could actually govern their in a disarray right now, they'll find the find their groove and get back before we go do you wonder you look back at your time of speaker. do you miss being speaker those do you want to be would you rather be in that position? >> i was i was privileged to serve 17 years it was an honore every single i love every day i went even when you harassment you would hear miss that to a little bit no. >> i mean, there's a timing for everything. it was a privilege to serve. i would serve it. i would do everything all over again. i look at our accomplishments, even you say maybe his nine months we had a border security bill, we had energy independence, we had parents bill of rights. we had our biggest cut, american, but now they can't pass. their agenda. itself. yeah, so maybe i was more effective than you thought. all right? >> the former speaker, kevin mccarthy, thank you for joining me today. up next, senator joe manchin declares independence from the democratic party. could he jumped back into politics in one of the most active 22 seasons you can't control a tornado interventions can we, design go inside the store premiere of binding earth with liev schreiber two and i didn't know on cnn, the temper p-adic breeze makes sleep feel cool. so no more sweating all night or blasting the air conditioning because the temper breeze feels up to ten degrees cooler all night long. for a limited time i'm save up to $500 on select temper p-adic adjustable mattress sets lactate is 100% real mouth just without the lactose delicious to just ask my old friend kevin. now than i can join the call one while watching the game who's winning? 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