jennifer, i don't >> 360 breaking news. the first video of investigative teams on the container ship dali and all we're learning about the final five minutes before took down a bridge killing six also tonight, presidential politics, campaign fundraising, and a police officers wake as president biden and three former president's converge on new york a look at what at all signals for the race ahead. and later, cnn's john king all over the map this week talking to voters in the swing state of arizona. >> good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight with breaking news, new video from a for the mv dali. it was taken by ntsb investigators documenting damaged the vessel, but it also shows the sheer bulk of twisted steel beams and girders from the francis scott key bridge in the waters off baltimore surrounding the ship blocking entry to the port unlikely encasing the remains of four fallen workers. according to maryland governor and the largest crane on the eastern seaboard is due in baltimore tonight, and a navy salvage and diving unit is now serving as the lead for salvage operations in a moment, we'll speak with former salvage diver about what crews are up against prefers with all we've learned in the last 24 hours here's how the disaster unfolded minute by minute. cnn's pete muntean has that around 01:23 a.m. we get a first glimpse of the dali. it's on the left side of your screen auto traffic on the francis scott key bridge in baltimore is still moving in both directions. >> at >> 01:24 hey, i'm and 59 seconds, numerous alarms are recorded on the dali's bridge audio 126.39 seconds. the ship's pilot makes a call for tugboats in the area to help. >> that's the indication of the first sine of needing help. the tugs help it help the vessel leave the dock, leave the port, and then get into the main ship channel and then they leave once it's on its way, it's so there are no tugs with the vessel at that time >> at this point, the dali appears to have power issues. video shows the lights on the ship go out and it's headed directly toward one of the columns supporting the bridge, 0,127.4 seconds the pilot ordered the dali to drop the port anchor and additional ordered additional steering commands >> the pilot said he called for hard rudder deport as far left as possible, that according to the head of the pilots association 21 seconds later at 01:20, 7.25 seconds, the pilot issued a radio call saying the dali has lost all power and is approaching the bridge. transit authorities work quickly to stop all bridge traffic. >> what do you guys on the south side? why do you guys on the north side? hold all traffic one british. there's a ship approaching. i just lost their c-ring. so the until you've had under control, we gotta stop on traffic from this cctv atop the bridge. traffic stops in both directions about 90 seconds before impact then the dali can be seen on the bottom right of the screen. it's moving at just under eight miles per hour around 01:29 a.m. it hits the francis scott key bridge from this moment until approximately 129.33 seconds. the vdr audio recorded sounds consistent with the collision of the bridge. >> the whole region as well. now start sorry, whoever hey, the whole room is just the last 129.39 seconds. the pilot reported the bridge down over the vhf radio to the coast guard. >> from the first warning signs to a deadly disaster all in less than five terrifying minutes p muntean joins us now, so i understand investigators use the boats data recorded, a build out this timeline, but they're looking for more data to learn exactly what happened well yeah and >> ntsb chair jennifer homendy says, there's a bit of an issue with the voyage data recorder. the data it recorded is very bare bones engine rpm, movement of the ship's rudder heading of the ship's bow, that is about it, not like a commercial airliner that records about 1,000 points of data hannah the good news here, anderson is that the data recorder also captured audio from the ship's bridge. so that is what investigators are relying on right now. also interviews with the crew of the dali. all 21 are still onboard tonight the 19. >> thanks so much. eight workers were fixing potholes on the bridge when it collapsed. now, according to another worker, the company who requested a last-minute shift change, the menn were likely on a break when the ship hit the bridge. as you know, six of those men died only to have been found the company says it's in the process of putting together compensation packages for their family please two of the eight survive. cnn's danny freeman has been finding out more about them. he joins us now. so what more do you know about the two survivors >> well, i understand. i'm gonna be honest. there's still a lot of questions that we have about exactly what happened to these two of those eight people who were on the bridge, who were lucky enough to survive. i mentioned last night though that i spoke with jeffrey pritzker. he's the executive vice president of that construction company, brawner builders. he said that one of their workers was able to survive likely because he was able to swim and tread water before ultimately he was rescued. now he was taken to a local trauma center after he was rescued from the waters below. but pritzker told me that that worker is quote very, very upset. he does have injuries and he understands that he's very stressed and suffering from stress when it comes to the second person who was able to survive this bridge clubs, though, there is still a little bit less known, i will say though that the governor said last night during his press conference that he was able to speak to likely that survivors saying and i quote, one of those survivors was moving off the bridge and literally saw the bridge fall right after he moved off and it was because of a first responder who was telling him to move off the bridge just moments before that bridge behind us came tumbling down. now we ask the governor for a little more clarity about who exactly that survivor was because the construction company says that that survivor was actually not part of their crew. so we're still waiting for an answer from both the governor's office and the maryland department of transportation and transit authority and would have authority said today regarding the four men who died who's, whose bodies haven't been recovered yet >> yeah. when it comes to authorities, that press conference just wrapped up the mayor of baltimore says that he is still hopeful that they will be able to find those four people who are presumed dead, presumed to be underneath the water. but one of the questions that we still had that war it was answered earlier tonight is that there is still at least one larger vehicle that they believe is trapped under the rubble of the bridge wreck behind me. and i'll quote now from the police here, there's at least one larger vehicle in size that's completely encapsulated by the super structure of the bridge and concrete. and they said it's going to take some time to get to that. emerson just want to add one more node if it's all right about both the survivor that we spoke about the worker and some of the victims we actually learn tonight from mexican officials that the surviving worker who managed to live after falling down into the water, he's actually related to two other workers who died on that bridge are presumed to be dead. so anderson, just to put that into context, three of the eight people who were on that bridge earlier this week, we're all family members, two of them died and one was able to survive danny freeman. >> thanks very much as we mentioned, a navy salvage and diving unit is now serving as the lead for salvage operations. joining us is a former fbi special agent, bobby chikun, while at the bureau, he served his team leader of the new york dive team, bobby, thanks so much for being with us. what exactly what would be the priority for that navy salvage and diving unit? how do they? how do they work >> so number one, they work with obviously the big diving helmets and surface supplied air systems that's at a minimum, they're going to go down there probably first look at the sonar data that's probably how they know there's a large vehicle encased in the wreckage they take sonar data and that can guide them. they do a survey what the bottom looks like, and then what you do is you've figured what pieces it's a puzzle that you have to take apart. what piece comes first, what piece comes second? those divers are going to have to go down. they were cutting instruments and cutting tools, start to cut away some of this larger debris and then rig it so that a crane can lift it off the bottom. it's got a dumb piece by piece by piece the figure out what to cut first, how to lift it. and every time you move a piece off the bottom, it changes the puzzle. things move around. so it's very treacherous for the divers down there. >> so we had heard just yesterday, it was too dangerous for the local divers. this unit you were saying its surface air, so these aren't divers with with air tanks. this is air being pumped down to them so they can stay underwater for long periods of time >> yes, my longest i was probably five hours when i will have the fbi because we use the symbol system we trained with the naibe dive salvage people down in panama city beach all the time. and yeah, they'll they'll stay down there forever. silico gives them the ability to use pneumatic tools. it gives them camera and lights down there. and obviously primarily it gives them their breathing air. they will have a small tank on their back usually, and that's what we call a bailout bottle that's in case the main system fails, they can go to that and they can get to the surface while they breed that emergency air. but normally under normal conditions, they don't use that and it's just an emergency tank on their back and so yeah, there'll be breathing air on the surface. there'll be using cutting tools and topside will be able to see and hear everything they're doing. >> this really dumb question, but i've been given how treacherous underwater is with all that met all in debris and jagged edges isn't having a line to the surface with air, isn't involvement of vulnerability for them >> well, you have umbilical management and you train to do this kind of stuff. and so oftentimes, if you're penetrating into one of these underwater, kinda now a cave in the debris. you have a second diver that's managing your umbilical as you go in but normally, you dropped down away from the debris and you walk in. you don't have fins, you have waited boots that keep you on the bottom and you walk in from a safe distance. and the umbilicals or long enough to do that to drop away from the wreckage and you know this by the sonar images that you have, where to drop down and then wit a walk into the wreckage they have, they will be mapping out what they have to deal with and then figuring out locations that do they actually do cutting, do they >> do they views explosive devices to break up the pieces of the bridge yeah. probably not explosive devices, but they have plasma cutters. they have other a lot of different cutting devices that they use. that's what they used in minneapolis on the bridge collapse. you can use a plasma cutter, you can use other cutting things, tools, and they're very powerful and like i said, you have to be ready to rig it so that a crane can then lift it off. the divers will get out of the way before the cranium been starts to lift that stuff and probably come to the surface before the because there's always a chance that something could snap in that could go pump down towards the bottom again. so you want to divers out of the way and the crane will lift piece by piece by piece. it's a very long process, but you have to do it slowly to be doing a carefully in terms of the chances of being able able to recover the remaining victims and how what do you think the likelihood of that would be >> it all depends on where they were. they could be under some of this debris, they could be crushed. unfortunately, they could be they could have drifted away along the bottom by now, it's really, it's really hard to tell what, what, what the chances of finding them if they're encased in that debris, then they will find them. we found people in minneapolis that way as we as we were cutting as the naibe was cutting deeper and deeper into the wreckage, they would find people and they may do that here it just it's just unknown right now. but i think there's a chance they'll find several of them entangled in that debris. >> yeah, it's dangerous work by bychcova. thank you so much >> thank god. may i just coming up next more breaking news that biden obama, clinton, triple bill tonight at new york's radio city, expected to pull in record campaign cash for democrats and later a new twist in 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a site that triggered members of the obama administration almost eight years ago, which likely was the point. now, former president obama descending the stairs of air force one with now president biden on their way to meet former president clinton for joint appearance in new york's radio city music hall which has just started. these are live pictures of the scene outside and mr. clinton so balm and the president's celebrating with the campaign says is a record $25,000,000 plus million dollar hall. it's also expected to be just the beginning of president biden's predecessors campaigning on his behalf. and the reasons seem pretty obvious why it's underscored, but the latest cnn poll, a poll showing no clear leader, but president biden facing a three-point deficit. that in chronically low job approval numbers are part of the reason why democrats tonight and ahead in the campaign hope to press the fundraising advantage. they've had so far over the trump campaign. former president meantime, drawing a contrast to the glitzy fundraiser spending his afternoon just the east on long island at the wake of a murdered new york police officer we'll have more on that in a moment. first, cnn's mj lee outside the biden obama, clinton event. what is the scene that you're seeing out there >> yeah. as you can imagine, anderson just tons of security and willing earlier in the evening promptly, a couple hundred protesters. these are pros ceasefire, pro-palestinian protesters who are clearly taking issue with president biden's policies when it comes to the israel-hamas war, the mood in fight obviously is going to be very, very different fitting for the venue that this fundraiser is being held in. this is going to be highly produced, very glitzy fundraiser. three presidents are going to be sitting down with comedian steven cole there for a shared conversation on stage. >> a >> lot of celebrities, an artists that are expected to be in attendance as well. mindy kaling is going to be emptying the event and queen latifah, lizzo are among the other artists that are going to be there. and all told the campaign announcing earlier today that they raised some 25 million dollars and counting, i wouldn't be surprised if that bigger ended up kicking up by the end of this evening are coming from both the high dollar tickets from this event as well as some lower dollar less than $200 grassroots donations that made up about a third of that 25 million. and you'll remember the campaign did. and now it's at the end of february that they had some 71 million of cash on hand. so this is going to help widen that gap that they have between their fundraising and the pass at the donald trump campaign has right now and are set and is the biden campaign planning more? there's kind of joint appearances ahead or is it more likely the former president obama and clinton will be? dispatch separately onto the campaign trail >> well, certainly this is not going to be the last that we see of the two former presidents. and particularly i think former president then a brock obama the president, probably is going to be hitting the trail a lot more especially as we get more into the fall are reporting is that he is lying if lead to visit college campuses, for example, and also choose these key cities and key battleground states with the goal of course, of helping to drive up enthusiasm among younger sure voters, as well as other key demographics like black voters and latino, voters. these are two men, anderson, as you know, very well, who have been friends and obviously went through a lot together in their eight years together. so you can imagine that the time that they spent together, this time around this afternoon, a couple of hours that they had a lot to talk about and we were told by aides that they were catching up a lot and enjoying themselves talking about a lot of the professional things, but also just their personal lives well, julie, thanks very much. it was you mentioned the former president was on long island, new attending awake for new york police department officer jonathan diller who were shot dead during a traffic stop monday evening, is alleged killer who was charged today with first-degree murder, has a lengthy criminal record. assigned, mr. trump said about dysfunctional criminal justice system we have to stop. but we have to get back to law and order. we have to do a lot of things differently because this is not working. this is happening too often. we've got to toughen it up. we've got to strengthen it up. >> prison. biden spoke today with new york mayor eric adams, offering his condolences on the tragedy. new york's governor ordered flags and all state but office buildings flown at half-staff too. honore officer diller, we have more net from cnn's kristen holmes, who joins us. so what can you tell us about the former president's visit to the wake of officer diller well, anderson, he was invited by a local county executive whom he has a relationship with for the family. the family was the one who wanted them to reach out. he didn't end up meeting with the family officer diller is survived by his wife and his young child that we saw donald trump without mentioning president biden's, say that things needed to change, call for law and order and its campaign it really was trying to make a contrast of these two trips to new york president biden's, as well as former president donald trump's framing this as by trump going to see the family of the slain nypd officer while biden was going to a glitzy and what they called a latest star studded fundraiser. they wanted that to have kind of a juxta juxtaposition as they're really launching their general election >> and the trump campaign is looking to hold their own fundraiser where they hope to raise more than the expected $25 tonight. what we know about that? >> yes. so this is what they're saying right now. so just to take one caveat here, which is we have not seen the numbers. it is still early that fundraiser supposed to be april 6, and they're telling because are they expect it out. raise this $25 million, and expect to get around the 33 million for their fundraiser. that's going to be in palm beach. so talk about alito's glitzy fundraisers and it's going to draw really some of the biggest names in republican fundraising. the mercer family, oil magnate harold hamm. some of these names people who didn't want to donate to donald trump originally, who were sitting on the sidelines or looking for alternatives. it's really signals a movement, at least in the donor class, towards the former president. it comes as you heard, i'm say, he is still chipping away at a significant financial edge that biden has. they are looking for every opportunity committee to get as much money as they can flowing into the campaign. >> kristen holmes, thanks so much, shawnees now from the left and the right perspectively cnn political commentator van jones analysts are farah griffin. so then how much upside show of force is about money, how much is sending a message that the democratic party is united? and i guess ready to campaign hard it's about both. first of all, it's cutthroat like the super bowl of fundraisers and dab $25 million raised and don't forget, president obama during his mid-term, he was badly in the polls. he was weak, he was wobbling, and then a bill clinton came out at our convention and gave an incredible speech and help to turn the tide i'd for obama so there is this tradition of the last democratic president taking the stage, helping the existing democratic president do well. and so now you've got to, you've got, you've got bill clinton, who is a rockstar for a certain part of the party. bill clinton. and bill clinton's the rockstar, obama's rockstar getting behind biden and it's not just about the money, it's about re-energizing this party, bringing people together. it's a big deal tonight. >> show in shingles because no one's going to see former president bush or former vice president cheney campaigning with donald trump am. >> if anything, he wouldn't probably want that >> well, that's what's actually very interesting. i think by design, of course, bill clinton and barack obama draw energy and money, but it's also a show of force. whereas right now, no living candidate who's been on a gop ticket other than sarah palin is backing donald trump and i think that that's something that the biden campaign is going to want to dry out to say he's actually just not somebody that even previous candidates approve of. >> but here's the thing. joe biden has a major cash advantage at this point. he's outraising trump two-to-one. this is a huge win for him tonight, but we remember 2016, hillary clinton massively outraised donald trump, instill he was able to edge her out. and this was smart politics today. i don't like the idea of going to a slain off because there's memorial and making a political, but to a lot of people in the middle of this country, they say that's the guy who's focusing on my priorities. he's putting police officers before hollywood celebrities and it shows the trump campaign's a bit more sophisticated than it previously was. >> event i'm doing, this is a warning sign that the biden campaign is concerned. i mean, the fact that new normally i am not sure when president obama got involved with the campaign the last time, but it seems to me it was much farther along in the campaign that seems obviously very early in the campaign well, we're going to have a longer general election campaign than we've had in living memory. so it is early and it is necessary biden isn't doing as well in the polls as he needs to be and so you do have people coming forward as far as president trump going to honor the police officer? i think that's good. and i think that anytime police officer loses his or her life, that's a tragedy people to show up, but the reality is that there is a big machine that has to be cut on for the democratic party. the democratic party cares about police. we can show that, but we've got to get this party to pull it together. and if anybody doubts barack obama in particular his ability to get some of the people back in this party. you got men leaving this party. you've got young african-american leaving this party he can reach them in will be out there a lot >> i don't think barack obama is going to sit this out. i don't think by the way, i think we have to obama's, to clinton since and to biden's who are not going to sit this out. i think you're going to see a full court press from the top of this party to the bottom because the consequence of a donald trump presidency part two is so catastrophic in the minds of a barack obama or bill clinton or anybody in this party. it just can't be allowed. and so yes. is unusual. is unusual time that we're in. but anybody who doubts barack obama's ability, we all well, who cares? nano barack obama can talk to people who are leaving this party and get them back. and he's got six months to do it and he's going to play a tremendous role going forward. >> what do you think >> i mean, do you think that's a do >> you think he is going to be that involved >> i think there's nothing brock obama would rather do less than this, but i agree with van that i think he's doesn't like to be in politics and where he's enjoying his life, he's got 1 million projects, but i think he does realize the stakes are high i would argue listened tonight. great cash hall the best place to use them, put them in michigan, you're losing the air vote there. you're using you losing young african-american voters. they're battleground states where i think he's going to resonate the most. biden has proven himself a formidable fundraiser. use obama with the key coalitions that are falling apart for democrats right now. >> event in prison, biden has recently pointed to fbi data that shows crime was down in nearly every category across the united states in 2023 it's a lot of people probably either don't believe that or don't feel that butt according to the fbi, those are the numbers. do you think that's going to ultimately get felt in this campaign? >> well i think that reality actual reality at emotional reality have not lined up for biden on a number of issues of the economy actually, on paper is doing a lot better than people think unemployment is down. gas prices are relatively low. stock market's up. a lot of things that have, should have people feeling good food prices being sticky at the top. housing prices being sticky at the top, make people feel the whole thing as as terrible. crime has been coming back down. but a few sensational instances make people feel we're all unsafe. and so there's an emotional reality in an actual reality that have not lined up for biden yet. it's gonna be job one for him to get those things lined up. yeah. van jones, willis, farah griffin. thanks so much coming up. a new hearing in 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thrown out on first amendment grounds, or murray as morning the criminal case against donald trump in georgia, this whole witch hunt should be put out of its misery and dismissed immediately. >> engine ahead today. trump attorney steve stayed out arguing the indictment against the former president should be tossed, claiming trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election, like is called to georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger >> well, i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,000 loads were protected under the first amendment statements, comments, speech, expressive conduct that deals with campaigning or >> elections has always been found to be at the zenith. of protected speech. >> take out the political speech, no criminal charges. >> prosecutors, a batting back at those arguments. >> what is not allowed to do is employ his speech and his expression and his statements as part of a criminal conspiracy to violate georgia's rico statute. he's not being prosecuted for lying. he's been prosecuted for lying to the government. >> it's the first hearing after months of delving into the propriety of fulton county district attorney, fani willis is romantic relationship with fellow prosecutor, nathan wade. >> you're confuse you think i'm on trial. these people are on trial i'll for trying to steal an election in 2020. i'm not on trial no matter how hard you try to put me on trial, wade, his dense resigned from the case while willis was allowed to remain, but trump's team is appealing that decision. as judge scott mcafee moves the case ahead. >> some crimes can be achieved solely through speech, though. why is that? now what's happening here as alleged mcafee didn't rule well on whether he'll allow the indictment to stand, but other defendants in the case have tried similar first amendment arguments and fail. willis, who did not appear in court today, still angling for trump and his remaining 14 co-defendants to go to trial before what the presidential election perhaps as soon as august. >> i don't feel like we've been slowed down at all. i do think that there are efforts to slow down this train, but the train is coming. but today's hearing wrapped without any discussion of a potential trial date and will be certain murray joint does now, is it clear when the judge might rule on trump's motion henderson? >> the judge did not lay out a timeline today for when he was going to rule on whether he should toss the indictment entirely. obviously, from the district attorney's perspective they want the judge to make swift decisions on these pretrial motions that are out there. they have trump and 14 other defendants to deal with if they want to go to trial by this summer again, still no trial date set. trump's team, of course, is happy to let the judge take all the time he wants there. they want to keep punting this and hope that there's no chance of a trial trial date before this presidential election in recess, or maria, thanks so much for spectrum now for michael moore, a former us attorney for the middle district of georgia, also two former federal prosecutors to me aganga-williams, former senior investigative council on the january 6 committee, and elie honig, is there a chance to lie that the former president's succeeds on this first amendment grounds. >> realistically, no anderson. and here's why. on the surface, the arguments that we heard, donald trump's lawyers make today have some superficial appeal. they said, well, you're allowed under the first amendment to make false statements. you're allowed to make politically unpopular statements. and that's all he did. the problem with that argument as the da's office pointed out, is that doesn't jive with the facts here. he did much more than just engage in speech for example, donald trump had official documents submitted to government entities. that's going beyond that gets into the category of conduct he arranged in coordinated with others to try to steal this election. and so i think this judge is going to reject this. it's worth noting that trump made a similar the first amendment argument in the federal jack smith case that was rejected by the federal judge. that's not binding on the state judge, but i think the state judge is going to come out the same place. yeah. i mean, told me he's talking to judge chutkan in the in that case, who rejected this argument. does that have any bearing with the judge in the georgia case? take that into account? for sure. i mean, it's going to be persuasive and today in the arguments, the georgia prosecutor, asieh, the judge specifically to look at judge chutkan analysis. he's he said, i don't think i can do better than she did because it was persuasive. and what she really did was separate the argument of corporate local speech and whether that is being moderated by the government versus criminal conduct. so for example, you can have a right to have a gun possess a gun which what you can do is take that gun and use it for this over crime just because you have a gun legally doesn't mean you can rob a bank with it. same way with political speech, just because you're a lot to say something under our first amendment, it doesn't mean you can then say those exact statements in further separate crime, and that's what donald trump has been charged with here. it's speech that he's using a principle crime. it's not speech for the sake of speech. and on top of that, there's more than pure speech. if you're n-tensor conspiracy, it's not that you set up in political is why you conspiracy because you and your coconspirators entered into an agreement to do something illegal so they again, it's not pure speed is at the heart of the indictment here. >> and michael, i mean, does it, strike you as just another delay tactic from the former president's team on this well, i'm glad to be with all of it is really a delight tactic, but it's a very standard practice in a criminal case to have these kinds of motion. so the fact that they had pretrial motions, that they tried to get the indictment dismissed, that they've challenged parts of the diamond that's normal. this is what normal ct looks like in a criminal case, except that it is happening just to be involved in a form of presence. so i do think it's going to delay things. i think the judge probably had his order halfway written because he has ruled on this before and there is some precedent out there in other courts. he's not bound by that has been said, but i think that it just is part of the routine process. what he's really white. i don't want to delay the case is that there's a pending appeal in the georgia court of appeals from his disqualification order. and of course, you've got the issue of immunity. that's pending in the supreme court. those things are there are what are going to put the brakes on the case as much as anything else? >> how much time do you think it'll take to rule? >> he has been pretty prompt, so i think we'll see a ruling certainly within a month, maybe a couple of weeks. and i do think michael is exactly right watching that proceeding today. it was the most normal pretrial motions that you'll see. it happens in every case and it was sort of refreshing after all the drama that we've seen happening in this case to just see lawyers making the same arguments, you would expect to see in any case, arguing them fairly and reasonably and rationally, it was a dignified court proceeding, and i think this case needed some of that timmy die any chance, do you think this gets to actually start before the election? >> i think it's incredibly unlikely. and that's always been true. i mean, this is >> the complexity of the defendants and exactly there's so many defendants here. and we saw in some of the prior hearings we had when you had these many defendants and each defense lawyer gets to ask him question and stands up. this all just takes a long time you also have jury selection here, which will take probably months and months and months even get a jury chosen here. i think it's unlikely we have a trial. and on top of that, the judge indicated that he may split this up even further for multiple trials. and i suspect the former president will be in one of those later groups, not an early who won so if i were a betting man, i would say we don't have a trial before the election >> michael, an attorney for trump's co-defendant, david shafer, who's the former chair of the georgia republican party he asked the judge to strike the term fake elector from the case saying it was a quote, legal conclusion what do you make that argument >> i don't think he's going to get very far with it. i mean you don't always want to have good clues, worry statements in an indictment. those things should be genetically up to the jury has not like they're being told now, here you go. he's actually the fake elector or whatever. >> i don't know that he'll get far. >> i will say this. i've watched this trial, judge and his it seems to light to split the baby, if you will and parson language and it wouldn't surprise me. he said, well, this might be a better term. i'm going to strike this. the end of this sentence or something like that. but it's certainly not going to throw the indictment out. there. that's just not going to happen. i don't believe at this point. this is sort of nitpick it and cleaning up parts of the and take issue with some language at the da chose to put it before the grand jury. >> all right. michael, thanks very much. every day, ellie, as well. thank you so much. >> our >> new all over the map reports night from the key swing state of arizona isn't with our john king space shuttle, columbia, the final flight from your sunday, april 7 at nine on cnn. >> i was born to live in the limelight is this kept me in the shadows until i got cleaver skin with himself most people got 100% clear skin. some after the first dose >> serious side effects that's including suicidal thoughts and 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biden. they also happen to be the county's right at or near the border. the immigration issue also is a big issue. what's surprising there is you find people who live there, live the immigration issue every day they listen to the net national conversation and they are lost a yes, they say it's a crisis, but they listen to trump or they listened to liberals, and they say all this shouting has so little to do with the actual problems right here where we live a wall as far as the eye can see. this is the tucson sector. by far the busiest corridor for illegal border crossings. smuggling is a big problem and a big business faith ramon knows all too well i needed money. i needed money quick. and because of my alcohol and my addiction, i just went to a party, met some friends. they offer me some quick money. i took it and it was so easy. it was so easy. i did it again and i did it again. sure enough. i was doing it for years because of it being so easy. >> then he got caught and then i got 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before. >> flores runs el charro, a family business for 102 years to san landmark, famous for carney seca and the chimichanga putin's immigration paralysis hurts business. i mean, a clear >> process for work visas would be amazing. you have your technology company, you can get an engineer and you can get them immigrated and you can get a work visa can i be able to do that with a chef oh, with a really good waiter. >> the immigration conversation tends to be different in places at or near the border. more polite, more nuanced focused on solutions, not slogans. so how long it's a unique situation where you have two countries that create a community. and actually it's mutually beneficial for both countries. >> walk through the nogales border crossing. and the first business you see is kory's bridal shop evan kory is fine with the wall but didn't like it when trump added the razor wire, he bristles when the former president talks about the border and mexicans. >> we've always depended on our mexican neighbors to support our local economy. >> quarry a democrat also bristles though, and liberals oppose more money for the border patrol and other security measures misters yeah. >> i mean, that's equally frustrating too, because you have to have a balance between all the needs and find a way to somehow work together. >> handmade boots or a specialty at david's western wear 44 years, a favorite of customers on both sides of the border that david moore says 99% of his business was from mexico before the covid shutdown. it's about 70% now, the last moore says the wall helps stop illegal crossings and he wants more agents to cut long wait times that discourage mexicans for making day trips to shop and he says, the asylum process is broken. >> the i don't know how that works, that people from africa are coming in through mexico up through the mexican border. i would want them to regulate that a little more more as a registered republican, but likely biden voter because trump offense him. >> he >> said that the immigrants are poisoning or blood what would you say >> i'd say my my mother was born in mexico and she came across the border legally >> so >> that's poison. i can deal with, i guess >> more says the way trump and allies talk about the border is exaggerated and alarmist. and he says he pays the price customers call and say they're worried about making the trip to nogales pupil from everywhere do that because when they say on the news that the borders are award zone that's those are the images they get. they think it's unsafe, but your home is not a war, so my home is not a war zone. we've been here for a long time, a long time at what is now a major line of america's political divide and john, it's so great to just hear from people all across the country. where does immigration rank among the top issue for voters? >> it's fascinating if you listen to those voters, democrats and republicans, they say it's a crisis, as i said, anderson, they want to have a conversation. they want the shouting to stop him about this. they want to have a conversation about solutions, not all the slogans, but as we know, it's a big issue in the campaign, whereas donald trump guy next week, he's going to michigan to grand rapids, the suburbs, right? kent county. joe biden won it in 2020 donald trump won it in 2016. donald trump is trying to get back on the immigration issue to help him in the suburbs. why? if you look? this is where we were down in arizona. if you look, here are two of the border counties are read two of them are blue. these two here is where we visited absolutely critical to biden's. the president is a problem at the moment, and that's an understatement. first, let's just look at joe biden's approval on the issues. this is a new fox national poll and look at this, the president's underwater on the big issues in the country economy, inflation. look at this on immigration, 30% approval 67% disapproved, and fox news pauling anderson, this is a new low for the president on approval on immigration, just 30%. so the president has a big problem there and here it's exacerbated when you factor in this, this is a new poll from quinnipiac this week, they ask voters, they listed ten issues and they said which is most important to you as you cast your vote this year, 26% said immigration, 20% said economy, 18% said preserving democracy. this is the first time and quinnipiac polling that immigration has been issued. number one. so if you talk to those voters, they say, let's have a conversation. if you listen to the campaign, donald trump's not interested in that. he's interested in using the issue saying joe biden biden has voted at the border, we'll see how it plays out, but that's a problem for the president. >> john king. thanks so much coming up, a cnn fact check and michigan state lawmaker claims that illegal invaders in their words, were on buses, spotted a detroit airport. it seems he doesn't follow college basketball 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elizabeth wagmeister in los angeles >> and this is cnn >> well, march madness is living up to its name and ways you'd never expect earlier this week, michigan state republican lawmaker, matt matt. matt posted on x, formerly known as twitter or photos just from detroit to airport with the caption quote, three buses just loaded up with a legal invaders at detroit metro anyone have any idea where they're headed with their police escort the key phrase highlighted their legal invaders mad got a ton of responses and he's fired back with replies which have gone viral. but the answer to his question is nothing to do with the so-called illegal invaders far from it seen as daniel dale joins us, keeping them honest with the fact check and the march madness tie. and so what is going on here, daniel >> what's going on, anderson is that this claim about illegal invaders is completely made up. it is absolute fiction and the airplane and three buses seen in mr. madix tweet, there were actually, you who's by ncw, a men's college basketball teams that were landing at detroit's airport to play in, as you said, march madness. so let me walk you through how social media users, including me, solve this extremely easy to solve non mystery. if you go back to that tweet by mr. madison, you'll see that the plane picture there is an allegiance an airplane. and if you go to online flight tracking sites, you'll see there was only one allegiant air flight that landed at detroit's airport yesterday. it was a charter flight from spokane, washington. so why would there be a charter flight from spokane, washington? well, as people on social media figured out the gonzaga university bulldogs who were playing purdue, tomorrow night in detroit are low okay. did in spokane, washington, and then if you go to gonzaga's a men's basketball twitter page or x page, you'll see a photo they posted themselves of them boarding their flights on that allegiant plane, two detroit. so i contacted a spokesperson for that gonzaga team. they're like, yeah, we took an elysian plane, we landed in detroit. yes, there were he says waiting. yes. we got a police escort. i contacted the local the county airports authority that runs this detroit airport. they said, yeah, these buses were for ncw basketball teams and they're traveling parties. so in summary, anderson nothing happened here like sports teams arrived at the city where they were going to play their sport the end. but somehow a lawmaker turn this into an immigration scandal on social media. >> so i hesitate to even ask, but what is this legislators response been now that we know more of the facts, is he backing down? >> he he is calling people calm, ease who said he is trumpy, trump endorsed and quite trumpian lawmaker who has done such try to sow original colonies with a k. the k is original. so he's, he's done things like tried to overturn the 2020 election, promoted covid, misinformation. and so people said, hey, this is probably ncw basketball teams landing and troy, he said, your economy, thanks, kami. and then he expanded on that today after fat checks had come out saying the fake news won't investigate illegals arriving in our cities citizens have to investigate. but i have to say if this is his citizen investigation, i don't think he's gonna be hired for too many private investigator jobs anytime soon. >> he's an actual legislator, like an actual prison. >> he's an actual, he's a state representative in the state of michigan elected official. indeed. >> wow daniel dale god bless you. how long that takes you, daniel >> very little time i mean, it took an hour or so to write, but actually figure out what happened a few minutes. >> all right? yeah. a few minutes. wow. to do than adele. amazing. thank you. appreciate it >> the news continues. the source with kaitlan collins starts now. thanks for watching straighten. the source tonight. all hands on deck at radio city. three president's, a star-studded lineup. any 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