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so. this just into cnn. ukrainian national police have arrested a group of individuals who they accuse of planning a violent protest in kyiv. their goal, police say, was to shake up and destabilize ukraine even further. let's bring in matthew chance reporting hive from kyiv. what are you learning about this group that ukrainian police arrested? >> reporter: there is a lot of concern in ukraine at the moment that russia is really working overtime to sow discord and destabilize the situation here, using sub versive methods. and it is something they're on a constantly lookout for. today there have been a series of arrests. three people taken into custody. one of them known to be planning what was meant to be, according to the security forces here, a very violent set of protests that were expected to take place, planned to take place tomorrow in the country, involving thousands of people outside the presidential palace in the capital, kyiv. with the security forces, there would be a whole load of violent protests. police would be provoked and it was meant to destabilize the situation and the tensions with russia. i've spoken to the deputy interior minister of the country this evening. emthat one of the people who organized this planned protest is now known to have strong links with russian-backed rebels. of course, the authorities here are working overtime to sort of see who is behind this apparently destabilized. they're working to establish a russian connection. but that is hard, they admit, saying that president putin, i think the interior minister said to me, does not leave a business card with these individuals. but the fact that there are these links with a rebel group called the bus stop battalion is strong evidence. and the authorities say that they're on the constant lookout for these destabilizing protests in the country. wasn't just this one tomorrow. they say they've broken up. it was a disrupted protest, a similar protest that was planned for around the country as well. what the deputy interior minister told me, while they're always on guard, and they're breaking up these destabilization attempts in the country, this is the most serious attempt they've seen so far to really disrupt the country's political situation. >> all right. matthew chance in kyiv. thank you. joining us live to discuss, indiana congresswoman victoria sparks. she's also the first ukrainian born member of the congress. and we have with us sarah jacobs. welcome to you both. you've just returned from ukraine as part of a delegation. the u.s. continues on warn that an attack is imminent. the kremlin accused the biden administration of stoking hysteria. based on what you saw on the ground, is the u.s. playing this up? or do you think an attack is imminent? >> i think it is very clear that russia is planning for an invasion. it is putting troops on the border, bringing supplies to the border in such a way that would enable them to do an invasion very quickly. and i think it is important that we and our allies in europe stand ready to deter that aggression and make sure that russia understands the cost if they do decide to go ahead with the invasion. >> congresswoman sparks, you've been quite critical of the posture toward russia. do you think the threat of sending u.s. troops to the front lines to help defend ukraine, do you think that should be on the table? biden has removed it from the table. >> well, i think, you know, to keep at a bill and peace, we remember the famous saying of reagan. peace through strength. and i think that's very important to show that we mean what we say and we'll do it. it is important for us to not just do the talk, to walk the walk, and we have commitment. our nato allies. i think a lot of them get very nervous with our debacle in fantasy and i think it is important to show. i'm glad we were able to do on it a bipartisan basis. it is important to show, we always say, we are equal branch of government and the first among equals to hoe the united states:00 stand with people who fight for freedoms and our lives. >> a rift has emerged as you know, between president biden and zelensky over how imminent a russian attack is. biden says it is imminent. do you think this is about keeping the ukrainian people calm or is there something else going on? >> listen, i was in meetings with the ukrainian ministry of defense with president zelensky. i think our intelligence assessment with the plans and motives is aligned and the same. any democratic leader, president zelensky has an obligation to stay calm. early in economic costs to the country of ukraine. but it is clear that if an invasion happens, the ukrainians will be ready and we're working closely with them to ensure that's the case. >> congresswoman sparks, the biden administration has threatened exacting brutal sanctions if russia invades. how concerned are you that there might be fallout to american economy, including and not limited to gas and energy prices? >> well, if you think about it, we already have our energy policy brought a lot of problems. and national security issues around the world. so i think that's a big, really, problem that we have now. our european policy made europe dependen on russia and it is a big problem to them. so i think our economy is not as dependen and they will have to start thinking about who their friends are and how they're going to mitigate risk and diversify in the long run. in the short term, i think we're doing what we can to try to help europe. unfortunately, we will not prepare it and they will not prepare it. i think we should have a serious discussion. russia needs to understand they'll pay significant cost if they're going to expend this aggression. we can't repeat what we did in 1938. and i think u.k. understands the situation, too. i'm glad to see they're exercising some leadership and i think we can do it, too. >> congresswoman jacobs, do you see any realistic scenario in which putin backs down in. >> i do. i think we and president biden is working on exactly the right approach to make sure president putin understands the high cost if he does decide to invade, to work with our partners and nato and e.u. and across the world to make sure those sanctions are done in concert in a unilateral way while working the provide a strong off-ramp to de-escalate the situation, to try to work with russia to find a nonvile way to address this conflict and to get to a resolution. >> you must have heard some of the voices in your party that are asking why the united states is siding with ukraine instead of siding with russia. we hear it on fox. some individuals in the freedom caucus, the house gop saying this. what is your answer on why it is important to stand with ukraine? >> well, it is a legitimate frustration. i think they put themselves in a tough situation and so it is a legitimate concern for us. in the short term, this situation can escalate significantly and it is a serious situation. we have to deal with it more effectively and we have to be able to support countries across an ocean. we can say it is not our problem until it becomes our problem, and united states of america and strength of our country is the stability for the whole world. we need to be there if we want peace and prosperity around the world. >> thank you both. we really appreciate it. we don't do a lot of bipartisan interviews these days. it is nice to have one. thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up, what? plus the new report out today exposing a health tragedy in the u.s., happening in the shadows of the covid pandemic. stay with us. bath, it fits your busy schedule. why have ovever two million people welcomed bath fitter into their homes? it just fits. bath fitter. call now or visit bathfitter.com to book your free consultation. inner voice (furniture maker): i'm constantly nodding... ...because i know everything about furniture ...but with the business side... ...i'm feeling a little lost. quickbooks can help. an easy way to get paid, pay your staff, and know where your business stands. new business? 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>> well, the house select committee members seem to be concerned with a number of things the president said over the weekend and statements he made as well. the idea of pardoning these individuals who have been accused of storming the capitol is just part of it. he said in that speech that his supporters should go protest outside of buildings where prosecutors and individuals have been investigating him and his allies as it relates to possible crimes that have to do with attempting to overturn the election, and as it relates to the january 6th investigation. so a member of the january 6th select committee said on cnn this weekend that she's very concerned about this rhetoric. that it could impact witnesses that are expecting to come forward and not only talk to prosecutors but also talk to members of the january 6th select committee. and then of course, there's this statement that the president made where he suggested that vice president mike pence had the ability to overturn the election and that he essentially wanted him to overturn the election. both liz cheney and adam kinsinger investigating january 6th said this is the president saying the quiet part out loud. this is case that they've been building. that everything that happened up to january 6th was an attempt to actually subvert the will of the american people on january 6th. it is all part of their investigation as they try to come to some sort of conclusion as to who is responsible for what happened here on january 6th. >> all right. thank you. here to discuss, political commentators, dave is a former trump campaign senior adviser. alyssa is a former communications officer. i'll start with this breaking news. former vice president pence's chief of staff testifying before the january 6th committee at length. you worked with marc short and remain friends. what should we take from this? >> well, he did go in under subpoena but i was not surprised by it. this is a man who believes in the constitution. he believes in the congressional role and oversight. you'll recall he was also donald trump's liaison to capitol hill. what he will shed light on, the imminent danger that make pence was in. he'll be able to talk about the pressure campaign by president trump and some advisers around him to try to get the vice president to take on this extra constitutional role throughout the electors. so i think it is very interesting testimony. >> it's pretty clear marc short would not have cooperated with at least some sort of sign-off from former vice president pence. he's a very loyal man to make pence. do you think pence himself will testify if he is asked or issued a subpoena? >> it is hard to say, right? there's a fine line between chief of staff going up and the vice president himself going. it's going to be a big, let's wait and see. i would not expect to see the vice president. marc was there. i've spoken with marc after, about the events of that day. he's a patriot, a good man. i think he has a lot to share with the xhae. i would not expect to see the vice president himself testify. >> let's turn to mike nobles saying he might pardon some of the people who were charged for attacking the capitol on january 6th if donald trump is reelected. do you think he's serious about that? or do you think he's just riling up his base as he contemplates another white house run? >> he's absolutely serious. there is the mistake that so many lawmakers, those of us in the media have made for quite some time. we don't take him seriously or literally when he says these outrageous things. but take donald trump literally. absolutely he will consider pardoning people. let's remember what some of these charges are. some are conspiracy, sedition, assaulting police officers, and of course, destruction of federal property. these are not small charges against many of these january 6th individuals. what i think is more notable from that rally this weekend, if the courts in new york end up charging me, i want to see protests in the streets. he's already talking about the next call to action like the insurrection of january 6th. we should take that seriously. >> go ahead, david. >> i was going on say, i've been on the show for several years saying i prefer the president talks about his accomplishments. this past week there was other pew poll out that had the president tanking in every measurable factor. at the rally, why don't we look forward, why don't we talk about what trump accomplished? about the key stone pipeline, inflation, the imminent invasion of ukraine. instead, the president continues to fate battles in the past instead of looking forward and talking about his accomplishments that he can do again if he were to be elected again. so i don't understand the strategy by going to the rally and talking about the past. elections are forward looking. if he wants to run in '24, i think he should look forward. not backward. >> some were quick to disagree this pledge of pardons for january 6th criminals. >> i do not think president trump should have said that about pardons. we should let the judicial process proceed. >> i think it is inappropriate. i don't warm to reinforce that that was okay. i don't want to do anything that would playing it more like will in the future. i want to deter what people did on january 6th. those who did it, i hope they go to jail and get the book thrown at they will because they deserve it. >> we should point pout neither of them have said that they will not support trump if he turns out winning the republican nomination in 2024. >> well, right. i would say from lindsey graham's lips and david urban's to trump's ears, they're right. what those senators are saying, what david said, is what trump should be doing. he should be disavowing and walking with a from january 6th. we've seen this last the five years. he's going to do what he wants to do if he feels cornered. if he feels like he's being pursued. he will do anything including defiling the constitution and disenfranchise 80 million voters to hold on to power. we have to take that seriously. >> at that rally, donald trump called for protests if he's not happy with the multiple investigations into him and his business in atlanta and new york and elsewhere. let's play exactly what em. >> if these radical, vicious, racist prosecutors do anything wrong or illegal, i hope we are going to have in this country the biggest protest we have ever had in washington, d.c., in new york, in atlanta and elsewhere. our country and our elections are corrupt. >> i may notean, david, we don' to imagine that it could turn violent. we have january 6th to remember. does he not have anyone around him saying stop? >> obviously people are free to show up and express their opinions. it's guaranteed in the first amendment. you can show up and petition the government for redressing grievances. super important. so people are allowed to do exactly that. obviously, crossing over into violence is never acceptable and should be condemned strongly. if people want to show up and express their outrage for how donald trump is being treated, they're free to protest outside the capitol. get a permit for park service and do exactly that. crossing the threshold into violence is never acceptable and should be denounced. >> go ahead. >> david, to your earlier point. why is the former president talking about his grievance when's tens of millions of americans are feeling higher prices at the fuel tank, grocery prices are up, inflation is hurting them. why kennel channel that into helping the american people? there's something so extraordinary about this very wealthy man making it all about his grievances? >> to my point earlier. i've always encouraged the president to talk about his successful record on many, many fronts. i think right now there could be an incredible compare and contrast. the former president is missing out on a great opportunity to do exactly that. >> thank you both for being here. trump also had something to say about this. vaccine rules in canada. coming up next, the demonstrations that have snow balled and practically shut down a city. stay with us. cinex lasts 12 hou, so i'm good. now move! kim, no! mucinex lasts 3x longer for 12 hours. it's still the eat fresh refresh™ and subway's refreshing everything like the new honey mustard rotisserie-style chicken. it's sweet, it's tangy, it's tender, it never misses. you could say it's the steph curry of footlongs. you could, but i'm not gonna. subway keeps refreshing and refreshing and re... ♪"don't ya leave" by squeak e clean♪ [doorbell] ♪ [doorbell] ♪ [doorbell] all the delivery. no delivery fees. dashpass. with hepatitis c i felt i couldn't be at my best for my family. in only 8 weeks with mavyret i was cured. i faced reminders of my hep c every day. i worried about my hep c. but in only 8 weeks with mavyret i was cured. mavyret is the only 8-week cure for all types of hep c. before starting mavyret your doctor will test if you've had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b, a liver or kidney transplant, other liver problems, hiv-1,or other medical conditions, and all medicines you take. don't take mavyret with atazanavir or rifampin, or if you've had certain liver problems. if you've had or have serious liver problems other than hep c, there's a rare chance they may worsen. signs of serious liver problems may include yellowing of the skin, abdominal pain or swelling, confusion, and unexplained bleeding or bruising. tell your doctor if you develop symptoms of liver disease. common side effects include headache and tiredness. with hep c behind me, i feel free fearless because i am cured. talk to your doctor about mavyret. learn how abbvie could help you save. imagine getting $150,000 dollars... for one year of epic adventures... in a new dodge hellcat... and you don't even have to quit your day job. you just need to show you've got real drive. are you our new chief donut maker? in our health lead, canada's prime minister justin trudeau tweeted that he tested positive today. protesting mask mandates and lockdowns. at least one border crossing between the and u.s. canada has been blocked by these truckers. >> reporter: protesters from canada's so-called freedom convoy are imposing a lockdown of their own. ottawa, the country's capital, grid locked. for days now, hundreds of rigs and cars lining city streets with protesters camped out in front of parliament and beyond. with passion and anger, they are demanding vaccine and mask mandates be dropped and life return to pre pandemic normal. they say they're not budging until that happens. >> i'll staying. i'm be leaving until the mandates are gone. >> this convoy is all about freedom. not only with the truck drivers. it is for every sim person. you, me, buddy down the road. it doesn't matter. it is all about your free choice. >> reporter: this started as a cross country trucker's protest by those against vaccine mandates imposed in january in both canada and the biden administration. it gained a following from a vocal minority of canadians fed up with covid restrictions. >> we should not be mandated to take vaccines. any medical vaccine, whatever, it should be a personal choice. >> reporter: that kind of sentiment gave way to this stand-off now in ottawa. >> there is a small minority that feel they can shut down a city or try to take over a government. it is just a bit bizarre, to put it mildly. >> reporter: while police and protests have been largely peaceful, there have been a handful of disturbing displays of hate symbols, vandalism and harassment. >> get out of here! >> reporter: people stomping on the nation's war memorial, reports of people being harassed even at a soup kitchen. ottawa police say they are investigating the incidents. and mr. justin trudeau that he is shocked and disgusted. >> i want to be very clear. we are not intimidated by those who hurl insults and abuse of small business workers, and steal food from the homeless. we won't give in to those who fly racist flags. we won't cave to those who engage in vandalism or dishonor the memory of our veterans. >> reporter: jake, this is not the only truck in, sit-in convoy going on between the u.s. and canada border. the province of alberta and the state of montana. right now the border crossing completely blocked along the i-15 corridor and the important supply chain route. they could have more of this to come. i want to point out, the canadian trucking alliance says they do not support this. and likely the vast majority of their truckers are fully vaccinated. >> all right. thank you so much. as covid continues to rankle most parts of the world, there remains another health crisis that existed long before in the united states. a brand new study in the journal of the american association highlights all the years of life gone because so many young americans had been lost to accidental drug overdoses. 3296 young people lost between 2015 and 2019. roughly 200,000 years of life gone because of drug overdoses. let's discuss with elizabeth cohen. what else can you tell us about the study? >> this study, jake, it is so disturbing. it looks at people ages 10-9 and it looks at how many of them died. how many of the young people died because of drug overdoses and how many lives lost is that. if you expected them on live to sort of the average age, how many years of life have been lost? again, this isn't like a 70-year-old or an 80-year-old or 98-year-old dying. these are young people. the researchers looked at overdose deaths among teens and pre teens. ages 10 to 19. the year is 2015 through 2019. the average age of death was 15. 3296 deaths during that time. more than 3,000 lives lost during those years. and if you add it up, that's 187,000 years of lives lost because of drugs. for people just ages 10 to 19. >> right now there is a huge issue with fentanyl. kids don't even know. they think it is an herbal supplement and they might not know it is fentanyl. police just recovered 100 bags of fentanyl from a then-year-old's bed over he -- a 13-year-old's bedroom. explain to the audience. and please, listen and tell your young people what this is. explain what fentanyl is and why it is so dangerous. >> right. so fentanyl is a synthetic opioid. it is made in a lab. it is very cheap and very deadly. you only need a tiny, tiny amount to kill you. he sow you can buy just strayed up fentanyl but that's not really how people are dying. the bulk of the deaths are because someone buys what they think is a percocet. what they think is meth. someone buys what they think is cocaine and it is laced with fentanyl. they have no idea that they're taking fentanyl and they die because of the fentanyl that is in those drugs. it is a cheap and easy way for drug manufacturers to make more powerful, you know, drugs. so people die from them and they don't even realize that they've taken fentanyl. >> they might even be thinking that they're taking some sort of legal, herbal supplement. that's what happened to the nephew of congressman ted deutsch who was on a few weeks ago. what are some of the leading factors for overdoses among young people? >> right. so one of the factors is social media. so drug dealers have learned that snap chat and instagram are great places to be pushing drugs on young people. cnn spoke with a woman who is in arizona, whose 13-year-old son died because he overdosed on fentanyl. he took what he thought was a pain pill that he bought on social media and he died because it was laced with fentanyl. so social media is playing a huge role here. again, these kids don't realize what they're taking. like you said. it could be an herbal supplement. it could be anything. once it is laced with this drug, it is so dangerous. just a tiny amount. >> parents and people listening, please share this information with the young people in your lives. finally on the covid pandemic. today we learn that moderna has received full fda approval for its vaccine. some believe this might help some unvaccinated folks finally get the shot. how much impact do you expect it to have? >> it might have a small affect. when pfizer got their approval last year, we saw a little bump because some people trusted it more. so let's look at all the ways that it might be able to help. so again, it could encourage people who are unvaccinated to get a shot because it's not just emergency use authorization. it is full approval. it allows moderna to advertise. that could be important. if moderna takes the opportunity to advertise, that could possibly help change people's minds. also, having full approval encourages businesses and schools, et cetera, to require the vaccine. whereas they might have felt hesitant with just emergency use authorization. this is all important because 20% of eligible americans, jake, still have yet to get a single covid-19 shot. that's more than 80 million unvaccinated americans who could be vaccinated. >> all right. thanks. so. appreciate it. you know that checkout sticker shock, from milk to mac and cheese. now big name brands are raising prices. we dig into why, next. 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>> the entire food supply chain is dealing with this perfect storm. with congestion, surging costs, and of course, this labor shortage which has only gotten worse during the omicron surge. without enough workers, some processors and distributors are cutting their delivery to grocery stores by 20 to 40%. that leads to a shortage of cream cheese and pet food. packaging and transportation are skyrocketing and that makes it tougher to get food through the supply chain. while this has been happening for weeks, the costly is finally trickling down to customers and that's what you're seeing on store shelves. and the customers need this food now as much as ever. demand for groceries is still spiking with people stuck at home because of omicron and inflation at a 39-year high. what can families due to save some money? experts recommend look for sales flyers before you shop. join loyalty programs at the store. and then try to plan some meals around cheap filling items like rice and beans as well as shelf stable ingredients like frozen vegetables. that will help you avoid waste which is quite literally throwing money in the garbage. >> thank you. good tips. up next, new investigations that reveal the u.s. exit from gaens was even messier than what we all saw unfold on television. stay with us. e. big boi foyer! big boi marble. big boi quartz. word? 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so. this just into cnn. ukrainian national police have arrested a group of individuals who they accuse of planning a violent protest in kyiv. their goal, police say, was to shake up and destabilize ukraine even further. let's bring in matthew chance reporting hive from kyiv. what are you learning about this group that ukrainian police arrested? >> reporter: there is a lot of concern in ukraine at the moment that russia is really working overtime to sow discord and destabilize the situation here, using sub versive methods. and it is something they're on a constantly lookout for. today there have been a series of arrests. three people taken into custody. one of them known to be planning what was meant to be, according to the security forces here, a very violent set of protests that were expected to take place, planned to take place tomorrow in the country, involving thousands of people outside the presidential palace in the capital, kyiv. with the security forces, there would be a whole load of violent protests. police would be provoked and it was meant to destabilize the situation and the tensions with russia. i've spoken to the deputy interior minister of the country this evening. emthat one of the people who organized this planned protest is now known to have strong links with russian-backed rebels. of course, the authorities here are working overtime to sort of see who is behind this apparently destabilized. they're working to establish a russian connection. but that is hard, they admit, saying that president putin, i think the interior minister said to me, does not leave a business card with these individuals. but the fact that there are these links with a rebel group called the bus stop battalion is strong evidence. and the authorities say that they're on the constant lookout for these destabilizing protests in the country. wasn't just this one tomorrow. they say they've broken up. it was a disrupted protest, a similar protest that was planned for around the country as well. what the deputy interior minister told me, while they're always on guard, and they're breaking up these destabilization attempts in the country, this is the most serious attempt they've seen so far to really disrupt the country's political situation. >> all right. matthew chance in kyiv. thank you. joining us live to discuss, indiana congresswoman victoria sparks. she's also the first ukrainian born member of the congress. and we have with us sarah jacobs. welcome to you both. you've just returned from ukraine as part of a delegation. the u.s. continues on warn that an attack is imminent. the kremlin accused the biden administration of stoking hysteria. based on what you saw on the ground, is the u.s. playing this up? or do you think an attack is imminent? >> i think it is very clear that russia is planning for an invasion. it is putting troops on the border, bringing supplies to the border in such a way that would enable them to do an invasion very quickly. and i think it is important that we and our allies in europe stand ready to deter that aggression and make sure that russia understands the cost if they do decide to go ahead with the invasion. >> congresswoman sparks, you've been quite critical of the posture toward russia. do you think the threat of sending u.s. troops to the front lines to help defend ukraine, do you think that should be on the table? biden has removed it from the table. >> well, i think, you know, to keep at a bill and peace, we remember the famous saying of reagan. peace through strength. and i think that's very important to show that we mean what we say and we'll do it. it is important for us to not just do the talk, to walk the walk, and we have commitment. our nato allies. i think a lot of them get very nervous with our debacle in fantasy and i think it is important to show. i'm glad we were able to do on it a bipartisan basis. it is important to show, we always say, we are equal branch of government and the first among equals to hoe the united states:00 stand with people who fight for freedoms and our lives. >> a rift has emerged as you know, between president biden and zelensky over how imminent a russian attack is. biden says it is imminent. do you think this is about keeping the ukrainian people calm or is there something else going on? >> listen, i was in meetings with the ukrainian ministry of defense with president zelensky. i think our intelligence assessment with the plans and motives is aligned and the same. any democratic leader, president zelensky has an obligation to stay calm. early in economic costs to the country of ukraine. but it is clear that if an invasion happens, the ukrainians will be ready and we're working closely with them to ensure that's the case. >> congresswoman sparks, the biden administration has threatened exacting brutal sanctions if russia invades. how concerned are you that there might be fallout to american economy, including and not limited to gas and energy prices? >> well, if you think about it, we already have our energy policy brought a lot of problems. and national security issues around the world. so i think that's a big, really, problem that we have now. our european policy made europe dependen on russia and it is a big problem to them. so i think our economy is not as dependen and they will have to start thinking about who their friends are and how they're going to mitigate risk and diversify in the long run. in the short term, i think we're doing what we can to try to help europe. unfortunately, we will not prepare it and they will not prepare it. i think we should have a serious discussion. russia needs to understand they'll pay significant cost if they're going to expend this aggression. we can't repeat what we did in 1938. and i think u.k. understands the situation, too. i'm glad to see they're exercising some leadership and i think we can do it, too. >> congresswoman jacobs, do you see any realistic scenario in which putin backs down in. >> i do. i think we and president biden is working on exactly the right approach to make sure president putin understands the high cost if he does decide to invade, to work with our partners and nato and e.u. and across the world to make sure those sanctions are done in concert in a unilateral way while working the provide a strong off-ramp to de-escalate the situation, to try to work with russia to find a nonvile way to address this conflict and to get to a resolution. >> you must have heard some of the voices in your party that are asking why the united states is siding with ukraine instead of siding with russia. we hear it on fox. some individuals in the freedom caucus, the house gop saying this. what is your answer on why it is important to stand with ukraine? >> well, it is a legitimate frustration. i think they put themselves in a tough situation and so it is a legitimate concern for us. in the short term, this situation can escalate significantly and it is a serious situation. we have to deal with it more effectively and we have to be able to support countries across an ocean. we can say it is not our problem until it becomes our problem, and united states of america and strength of our country is the stability for the whole world. we need to be there if we want peace and prosperity around the world. >> thank you both. we really appreciate it. we don't do a lot of bipartisan interviews these days. it is nice to have one. thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up, what? plus the new report out today exposing a health tragedy in the u.s., happening in the shadows of the covid pandemic. stay with us. bath, it fits your busy schedule. why have ovever two million people welcomed bath fitter into their homes? it just fits. bath fitter. call now or visit bathfitter.com to book your free consultation. inner voice (furniture maker): i'm constantly nodding... ...because i know everything about furniture ...but with the business side... ...i'm feeling a little lost. quickbooks can help. an easy way to get paid, pay your staff, and know where your business stands. new business? no problem. success starts with intuit quickbooks. i don't just play someone brainy on tv - i'm an actual neuroscientist. and i love the science behind neuriva plus. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? yes, please! neuriva. think bigger. >> in our politics lead, i suppose it shouldn't come as a surprise that the former president who according to aides sat in the white house dining room and gleefully watched his supporters storm the capitol, now say he might pardon those criminals if he's reelected. >> if i run, if i win, we will treat those people from january 6th fairly. we will treat them fairly. and if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons, because they are being treated so unfairly. >> we should note, prosecutors have already brought cases against more than 700 of the january 6th rioters and more than 50 have been extensioned for their role in the attacks. ryan, what is the reaction to the president, the former president's pledge of possible pardons from members of the house select xhae investigating january 6th? >> well, the house select committee members seem to be concerned with a number of things the president said over the weekend and statements he made as well. the idea of pardoning these individuals who have been accused of storming the capitol is just part of it. he said in that speech that his supporters should go protest outside of buildings where prosecutors and individuals have been investigating him and his allies as it relates to possible crimes that have to do with attempting to overturn the election, and as it relates to the january 6th investigation. so a member of the january 6th select committee said on cnn this weekend that she's very concerned about this rhetoric. that it could impact witnesses that are expecting to come forward and not only talk to prosecutors but also talk to members of the january 6th select committee. and then of course, there's this statement that the president made where he suggested that vice president mike pence had the ability to overturn the election and that he essentially wanted him to overturn the election. both liz cheney and adam kinsinger investigating january 6th said this is the president saying the quiet part out loud. this is case that they've been building. that everything that happened up to january 6th was an attempt to actually subvert the will of the american people on january 6th. it is all part of their investigation as they try to come to some sort of conclusion as to who is responsible for what happened here on january 6th. >> all right. thank you. here to discuss, political commentators, dave is a former trump campaign senior adviser. alyssa is a former communications officer. i'll start with this breaking news. former vice president pence's chief of staff testifying before the january 6th committee at length. you worked with marc short and remain friends. what should we take from this? >> well, he did go in under subpoena but i was not surprised by it. this is a man who believes in the constitution. he believes in the congressional role and oversight. you'll recall he was also donald trump's liaison to capitol hill. what he will shed light on, the imminent danger that make pence was in. he'll be able to talk about the pressure campaign by president trump and some advisers around him to try to get the vice president to take on this extra constitutional role throughout the electors. so i think it is very interesting testimony. >> it's pretty clear marc short would not have cooperated with at least some sort of sign-off from former vice president pence. he's a very loyal man to make pence. do you think pence himself will testify if he is asked or issued a subpoena? >> it is hard to say, right? there's a fine line between chief of staff going up and the vice president himself going. it's going to be a big, let's wait and see. i would not expect to see the vice president. marc was there. i've spoken with marc after, about the events of that day. he's a patriot, a good man. i think he has a lot to share with the xhae. i would not expect to see the vice president himself testify. >> let's turn to mike nobles saying he might pardon some of the people who were charged for attacking the capitol on january 6th if donald trump is reelected. do you think he's serious about that? or do you think he's just riling up his base as he contemplates another white house run? >> he's absolutely serious. there is the mistake that so many lawmakers, those of us in the media have made for quite some time. we don't take him seriously or literally when he says these outrageous things. but take donald trump literally. absolutely he will consider pardoning people. let's remember what some of these charges are. some are conspiracy, sedition, assaulting police officers, and of course, destruction of federal property. these are not small charges against many of these january 6th individuals. what i think is more notable from that rally this weekend, if the courts in new york end up charging me, i want to see protests in the streets. he's already talking about the next call to action like the insurrection of january 6th. we should take that seriously. >> go ahead, david. >> i was going on say, i've been on the show for several years saying i prefer the president talks about his accomplishments. this past week there was other pew poll out that had the president tanking in every measurable factor. at the rally, why don't we look forward, why don't we talk about what trump accomplished? about the key stone pipeline, inflation, the imminent invasion of ukraine. instead, the president continues to fate battles in the past instead of looking forward and talking about his accomplishments that he can do again if he were to be elected again. so i don't understand the strategy by going to the rally and talking about the past. elections are forward looking. if he wants to run in '24, i think he should look forward. not backward. >> some were quick to disagree this pledge of pardons for january 6th criminals. >> i do not think president trump should have said that about pardons. we should let the judicial process proceed. >> i think it is inappropriate. i don't warm to reinforce that that was okay. i don't want to do anything that would playing it more like will in the future. i want to deter what people did on january 6th. those who did it, i hope they go to jail and get the book thrown at they will because they deserve it. >> we should point pout neither of them have said that they will not support trump if he turns out winning the republican nomination in 2024. >> well, right. i would say from lindsey graham's lips and david urban's to trump's ears, they're right. what those senators are saying, what david said, is what trump should be doing. he should be disavowing and walking with a from january 6th. we've seen this last the five years. he's going to do what he wants to do if he feels cornered. if he feels like he's being pursued. he will do anything including defiling the constitution and disenfranchise 80 million voters to hold on to power. we have to take that seriously. >> at that rally, donald trump called for protests if he's not happy with the multiple investigations into him and his business in atlanta and new york and elsewhere. let's play exactly what em. >> if these radical, vicious, racist prosecutors do anything wrong or illegal, i hope we are going to have in this country the biggest protest we have ever had in washington, d.c., in new york, in atlanta and elsewhere. our country and our elections are corrupt. >> i may notean, david, we don' to imagine that it could turn violent. we have january 6th to remember. does he not have anyone around him saying stop? >> obviously people are free to show up and express their opinions. it's guaranteed in the first amendment. you can show up and petition the government for redressing grievances. super important. so people are allowed to do exactly that. obviously, crossing over into violence is never acceptable and should be condemned strongly. if people want to show up and express their outrage for how donald trump is being treated, they're free to protest outside the capitol. get a permit for park service and do exactly that. crossing the threshold into violence is never acceptable and should be denounced. >> go ahead. >> david, to your earlier point. why is the former president talking about his grievance when's tens of millions of americans are feeling higher prices at the fuel tank, grocery prices are up, inflation is hurting them. why kennel channel that into helping the american people? there's something so extraordinary about this very wealthy man making it all about his grievances? >> to my point earlier. i've always encouraged the president to talk about his successful record on many, many fronts. i think right now there could be an incredible compare and contrast. the former president is missing out on a great opportunity to do exactly that. >> thank you both for being here. trump also had something to say about this. vaccine rules in canada. coming up next, the demonstrations that have snow balled and practically shut down a city. stay with us. cinex lasts 12 hou, so i'm good. now move! kim, no! mucinex lasts 3x longer for 12 hours. it's still the eat fresh refresh™ and subway's refreshing everything like the new honey mustard rotisserie-style chicken. it's sweet, it's tangy, it's tender, it never misses. you could say it's the steph curry of footlongs. you could, but i'm not gonna. subway keeps refreshing and refreshing and re... ♪"don't ya leave" by squeak e clean♪ [doorbell] ♪ [doorbell] ♪ [doorbell] all the delivery. no delivery fees. dashpass. with hepatitis c i felt i couldn't be at my best for my family. in only 8 weeks with mavyret i was cured. i faced reminders of my hep c every day. i worried about my hep c. but in only 8 weeks with mavyret i was cured. mavyret is the only 8-week cure for all types of hep c. before starting mavyret your doctor will test if you've had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b, a liver or kidney transplant, other liver problems, hiv-1,or other medical conditions, and all medicines you take. don't take mavyret with atazanavir or rifampin, or if you've had certain liver problems. if you've had or have serious liver problems other than hep c, there's a rare chance they may worsen. signs of serious liver problems may include yellowing of the skin, abdominal pain or swelling, confusion, and unexplained bleeding or bruising. tell your doctor if you develop symptoms of liver disease. common side effects include headache and tiredness. with hep c behind me, i feel free fearless because i am cured. talk to your doctor about mavyret. learn how abbvie could help you save. imagine getting $150,000 dollars... for one year of epic adventures... in a new dodge hellcat... and you don't even have to quit your day job. you just need to show you've got real drive. are you our new chief donut maker? in our health lead, canada's prime minister justin trudeau tweeted that he tested positive today. protesting mask mandates and lockdowns. at least one border crossing between the and u.s. canada has been blocked by these truckers. >> reporter: protesters from canada's so-called freedom convoy are imposing a lockdown of their own. ottawa, the country's capital, grid locked. for days now, hundreds of rigs and cars lining city streets with protesters camped out in front of parliament and beyond. with passion and anger, they are demanding vaccine and mask mandates be dropped and life return to pre pandemic normal. they say they're not budging until that happens. >> i'll staying. i'm be leaving until the mandates are gone. >> this convoy is all about freedom. not only with the truck drivers. it is for every sim person. you, me, buddy down the road. it doesn't matter. it is all about your free choice. >> reporter: this started as a cross country trucker's protest by those against vaccine mandates imposed in january in both canada and the biden administration. it gained a following from a vocal minority of canadians fed up with covid restrictions. >> we should not be mandated to take vaccines. any medical vaccine, whatever, it should be a personal choice. >> reporter: that kind of sentiment gave way to this stand-off now in ottawa. >> there is a small minority that feel they can shut down a city or try to take over a government. it is just a bit bizarre, to put it mildly. >> reporter: while police and protests have been largely peaceful, there have been a handful of disturbing displays of hate symbols, vandalism and harassment. >> get out of here! >> reporter: people stomping on the nation's war memorial, reports of people being harassed even at a soup kitchen. ottawa police say they are investigating the incidents. and mr. justin trudeau that he is shocked and disgusted. >> i want to be very clear. we are not intimidated by those who hurl insults and abuse of small business workers, and steal food from the homeless. we won't give in to those who fly racist flags. we won't cave to those who engage in vandalism or dishonor the memory of our veterans. >> reporter: jake, this is not the only truck in, sit-in convoy going on between the u.s. and canada border. the province of alberta and the state of montana. right now the border crossing completely blocked along the i-15 corridor and the important supply chain route. they could have more of this to come. i want to point out, the canadian trucking alliance says they do not support this. and likely the vast majority of their truckers are fully vaccinated. >> all right. thank you so much. as covid continues to rankle most parts of the world, there remains another health crisis that existed long before in the united states. a brand new study in the journal of the american association highlights all the years of life gone because so many young americans had been lost to accidental drug overdoses. 3296 young people lost between 2015 and 2019. roughly 200,000 years of life gone because of drug overdoses. let's discuss with elizabeth cohen. what else can you tell us about the study? >> this study, jake, it is so disturbing. it looks at people ages 10-9 and it looks at how many of them died. how many of the young people died because of drug overdoses and how many lives lost is that. if you expected them on live to sort of the average age, how many years of life have been lost? again, this isn't like a 70-year-old or an 80-year-old or 98-year-old dying. these are young people. the researchers looked at overdose deaths among teens and pre teens. ages 10 to 19. the year is 2015 through 2019. the average age of death was 15. 3296 deaths during that time. more than 3,000 lives lost during those years. and if you add it up, that's 187,000 years of lives lost because of drugs. for people just ages 10 to 19. >> right now there is a huge issue with fentanyl. kids don't even know. they think it is an herbal supplement and they might not know it is fentanyl. police just recovered 100 bags of fentanyl from a then-year-old's bed over he -- a 13-year-old's bedroom. explain to the audience. and please, listen and tell your young people what this is. explain what fentanyl is and why it is so dangerous. >> right. so fentanyl is a synthetic opioid. it is made in a lab. it is very cheap and very deadly. you only need a tiny, tiny amount to kill you. he sow you can buy just strayed up fentanyl but that's not really how people are dying. the bulk of the deaths are because someone buys what they think is a percocet. what they think is meth. someone buys what they think is cocaine and it is laced with fentanyl. they have no idea that they're taking fentanyl and they die because of the fentanyl that is in those drugs. it is a cheap and easy way for drug manufacturers to make more powerful, you know, drugs. so people die from them and they don't even realize that they've taken fentanyl. >> they might even be thinking that they're taking some sort of legal, herbal supplement. that's what happened to the nephew of congressman ted deutsch who was on a few weeks ago. what are some of the leading factors for overdoses among young people? >> right. so one of the factors is social media. so drug dealers have learned that snap chat and instagram are great places to be pushing drugs on young people. cnn spoke with a woman who is in arizona, whose 13-year-old son died because he overdosed on fentanyl. he took what he thought was a pain pill that he bought on social media and he died because it was laced with fentanyl. so social media is playing a huge role here. again, these kids don't realize what they're taking. like you said. it could be an herbal supplement. it could be anything. once it is laced with this drug, it is so dangerous. just a tiny amount. >> parents and people listening, please share this information with the young people in your lives. finally on the covid pandemic. today we learn that moderna has received full fda approval for its vaccine. some believe this might help some unvaccinated folks finally get the shot. how much impact do you expect it to have? >> it might have a small affect. when pfizer got their approval last year, we saw a little bump because some people trusted it more. so let's look at all the ways that it might be able to help. so again, it could encourage people who are unvaccinated to get a shot because it's not just emergency use authorization. it is full approval. it allows moderna to advertise. that could be important. if moderna takes the opportunity to advertise, that could possibly help change people's minds. also, having full approval encourages businesses and schools, et cetera, to require the vaccine. whereas they might have felt hesitant with just emergency use authorization. this is all important because 20% of eligible americans, jake, still have yet to get a single covid-19 shot. that's more than 80 million unvaccinated americans who could be vaccinated. >> all right. thanks. so. appreciate it. you know that checkout sticker shock, from milk to mac and cheese. now big name brands are raising prices. we dig into why, next. 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>> i think it hurts badly. experts from russia and ukraine have said part of putin's decision to begin massing forces on the border came after he saw the american debacle and decided we have been weaken on the world's stage. this is the moment to try our hand. i think what it does is it makes us look unreliable and in incompetent. bad partners and friends. a great power that can't do the basic thing of bringing out its own allies and friends who risk their lives on behalf of a project that we brought to their country when they were at great risk of being killed and now as you said earlier many of them are being killed or at least hunted down. >> you followed several afghans closely. one man named khan worked as a contractor, his toddler and wife thankfully made it to the u.s. do you have how many kind like khan who were left behind and not able to get out? >> i do. the organization for american ideals estimates that 90% of sibs applicants that's to say who worked for americans during the war did not get out and are still there. the numbers are terrible, jake because the evacuation since august 31st, ground to near halt. there are tens of thousands of afghans who applied for refugee status or what's called humanitarian parole which is brought into the united states on a temporary basis are waiting for applications to be reviewed and very few are making it through. in the single digit percentages and the same is true of the sibs of those who have visas and those passed through most of the stages applications or those who have started. we have dropped the ball and stopped the work of bringing them in. it was that two-week period in august when we frantically did what we could. since then it is grounded to a halt and it is a tragedy for the afghans and really for the united states. >> incredibly important, thank you so much. i will tweet the piece out so you can read it if you don't know the link. we are minutes away from a rescheduled space launch how tourists interrupted the original lift off, that's next. sensodyne sensitivity & gum gives us the dual action effect that really takes care of both our teeth sensitivity as well as our gum issues. there's no question it's something that i would recommend. ♪ get a head start in investing with the new schwab starter kit™. new investors can open an account and get $50 to split across the top five stocks in the s&p 500®. you can also unlock short videos, step-by-step guides, and other easy-to-use tools designed for people just getting started. plus, investment professionals are on standby 24/7 if you ever have a question. it's the smarter way to start investing. ♪ ♪ you pour your heart into everything you do, which is a lot. so take care of that heart with lipton. because sippin' on unsweetened lipton can help support a healthy heart. lipton. stop chuggin'. start sippin'. for back pain, i've always been a take two and call in the morning guy. but my new doctor recommended salonpas. without another pill upsetting my stomach, i get powerful, effective and safe relief. salonpas. it's good medicine. this winter, comcast business is helping team usa and businesses across america stay ahead. keep yours ahead too with reliable connectivity and secure solutions on the network that can deliver gig speeds to the most businesses. and get access to over 20 million wifi hotspots from coast to coast. so no matter what big event comes up, your team can be ready for what's next. get started with fast and reliable internet and voice for just $64.99 a month. or, ask how to get a visa prepaid card with a qualifying bundle. spacex is opening its fifth times as a charm. the company launched its italian satellite system had already been delayed, three of them because of bad weather and last night's attempt after a cruise ship ventured into the no-go zone near the cape canaveral. our coverage continues now with mr. wolf blitzer in "the situation room." i will see you tomorrow. happening now, breaking news, the united states has received russia's response on ukraine as the two tensions haves been growing over the crisis over at the united nation. the pentagon is warning moscow positioned more troops for a potential invasion and president biden insists the u.s. is ready for whatever happens next. also, tonight a cnn exclusive. we have spoken to the former chief of staff to vice president mike pence, this is as donald

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