brings me to another big headline. this kind of says it all from "the associated press." u.s. move to shorten covid-19 isolation stirs confusion, doubt. i think it really encapsulates what many americans feel, confused and doubtful and weary after the cdc dramatically shortened the recommended isolation person for the covid positive as omicron is exploding. a move that's also drawing some criticism from many renowned experts on infectious diseases. could it lead to even more covid cases? that's a fear. we have the guest tonight to try to help clear up any confusion and address the concerns that guest is dr. anthony fauci, white house covid task force member extraordinaire. he is about to join us in a moment. why are there concerns and confusion? before now those infected with covid-19 had been sliezed by the cdc to isolate for ten days, but now it's recommending only five days of isolation if they don't have symptoms regardless of vaccination status. once out of isolation, they are advised to mask up around others for another five days. but what's glaringly missing from the guidance, according to some medical experts, is a strong encouragement to retest at day five it ensure the infected aren't covid positive but there is no such sentence in the guidance. why not recommend a rapid test? we broke our all-time record of covid cases since the peak of the pandemic last winter. is it because the government is worried about the shortage of tests right now? this decision has some in the medical community bewildered. director of the yale institute for global health, dr. sad omer tweeting, ending isolation of covid cases in five days without testing negative is the nose out of the mask of covid-19 policies. associate professor of biology at the university of massachusetts dartmouth who teaches about infectious diseases says he is baffled by the cdc's decision. and he shared images of someone's positive covid tests one taken three days after their first exposure to the virus, another was eight days after their first positive test, and he pointed out this infected person still had a huge amount of virus from their nose eight days later. and chief science officer of e med, former harvard epidemiologist calls the guidance, quote, reckless and adds some people are infectious for thee days, some 12. he tweeted, i am 100% forgetting people to drop isolation early. i recommended it to the cdc in may of 2020 but it was always a with negative test. quote, we put all this effort into discovering infectious people. why not ensure those we discover don't spread on? let's put the question to the president's chief medical advisor dr. anthony fauci, director. national institute of allergy and infectious diseases. respond to those critics, if you will, please. >> michael, there is a lot of questions and criticisms about that. let me try to maybe just frame it from 40,000 feet of why the cdc made the recommendation in the first place of instead of having a full ten-day of isolation, if you are infected and asymptomatic, to actually cut that down to five days of isolation followed by five days of masking. the fundamental reason for that -- and this could indirectly or maybe directly ex main some of the concerns or answer some of the concerns that people have about the cdc's decision. the purpose of it was, is that given the wave, the extraordinary unprecedented wave of infections that we are experiencing now and will certainly experience more of in the next few weeks, that there is the danger that there will be so many people who are being isolated, who are asymptomatic for the full ten days, that you could have a major negative impact on our ability to keep society running. so the decision was made, although it's not completely risk-free, of saying, let's get that cut in half so that we could have 50%, namely, half of the ten days and 50% of that time people can actually be out with a mask in society. the question you raised, michael, is a reasonable question. people are asking, okay, that's fine. but why not require a test? the reason the cdc gives is not because there is a shortage of tests. so that was one of the injection -- objections, excuse me, that one of the people who wrote in or made the comment to you. that's not the issue, according to the cdc. according to the cdc, what they're saying is that for the first five days an abintigen te would be predictive of whether a person is transmissable. it's much more likely predictive. as you get further into the course, namely, out to the seven, eight, nine, ten days, the predictive value of an antigen test to say weather you are transmissable to someone else is really not only not known, there is no evidence indicate that that has any predictive value. in fact, what they're telling us, and it's true, is that the fda approved that antigen test and never approved it for the purpose of saying it has any predictive value when you are eight, nine, ten days into the course, whereas early on it gives you much more predictive of weahether you are enficktiver transmissable. >> here's what i'm dr. fauci, here is what i am not hearing you say. it has nothing to do with test scarcity. >> right. oh, i said that. i said it three times, michael. sorry. it has nothing to do with a lack of testst. that is not the reason why. i am sorry. i said that multiple times. that is not the reason. >> okay. so -- >> if anyone says we are not doing testing because there is a shortage of tests, that's absolutely -- >> that's not true. >> that's not the case. >> okay. something i did hear you say -- and correct me if i'm wrong -- is that there was a consideration of economic cost. i am not saying that in a pejorative sense. but what i hear you say is, we can't run the risk of shutting down the economy, shutting down our lifestyle, shutting down a functioning society for the ten days of isolation. did i get that right? >> well, i wouldn't use the word economic, michael. when you shut down society, when you shut down the country, there is a lot of deleterious affects that go along with that go well beyond the economy, is the availability of people to get things done for their own health. when you shut down the country, you have people who have other diseases who don't have the opportunity to get their hiv test, to get their hiv meadows, to get their mammograms, the colonoscopies. all the things you do when you shut down there is a lot of deleterious effects that are well beyond economy. i wouldn't just say it's an economic consideration. >> today the fda said that with regard to the omicron infection, the tests are not as reliable. is that any factor in -- the rapid tests. is that any factor in the decision made as to how long isolation should be? >> no. that wasn't. that, obviously, would impact it and make it actually even more of an argument about not doing it. but that's not the reason why. these were independent decisions that were made. the decision by the cdc, when they were considering that, was well before the fda came out today and said that the tests are still worthwhile. they are less sensitive now -- they were never 100% sensitive. the antigen tests. everybody knew that. when you do more than one, you add to the degree of sensitivity to it. if you do more than one. as a single test, it was never 100% sensitive. what the fda is saying today is that when you look at omicron and its ability to detect omicron, some of the tests have a diminution further of the sensitivity. but they still say the tests are useful and should be used. >> dr. fauci, in that "associated press" story that i touted the headline when we first began the conversation, there was a pastor and he was quote inside the story saying something that i hear from folks. he said, either we're in a surge that we need to take very seriously, or we're winding down the pandemic and we can start shortening the isolation. i think that's a very common concern and question. what would you say to that pastor? >> you know, i think it's true and unrelated. i think it may be that, in fact, we are in a situation where when we peak in the next few weeks, i think it will be, if you look at what's happened in south africa and in denmark and other countries, where they have a very rapid vertical increase and they turned it around and sharply go down. i think that's quite feasible, that that will happen. i don't think that has anything to do with cutting down the isolation period from ten days to five days as long as after five days you wear a mask. i think, as i always say, true, true, but not related. >> why amidst the data that we have shared about how we have peaked are you still not full-on supportive of a vaccine mandate for those who are traveling? >> you know, again, that keeps coming up. when i was asked that question, michael, i said that is something that is on the table. so let me explain to you, because it keeps coming back. i think that people, they fixate on a word or two that someone says. what i said is on the table, michael, when we discuss interventions, everything is always on the table. on a daily basis we say, what about this, what about that, what about that? it's discussible. that doesn't mean it's likely that you are going to do it. and when i said we should take it seriously and we should keep it on the table, but for now there is not going to be a requirement aka mandate to have vaccines before you could enter on a domestic night. flight. you are not going to wake up tomorrow morning and read in the newspapers that that decision was made. it won't. if, if things change dramatically and we keep evaluating them on a day and day basis and it changes, that that possibility becomes more of a reality, we will act accordingly. but right now, as you and i are speaking, we are not going to be mandating or requiring that there will be vaccination necessary before you get on a domestic flight. >> a brief follow europe. we reached another record status. if not now, when? what would it take to impose that kind of a mandate? >> well, you know what we'd like to do? talk to the people, the tens of millions of people who are eligible to be vaccinated when we have a tsunami of cases and 840,000 deaths in this country who still team for a variety of reasons, many of them politically motivated or idealogically motivated, that they are not getting vaccinated. that's what we should be discussing. >> okay. and we do, as you know. believe me, i want everybody vaxed and boosted. dr. fauci, thank you for being here and answering those questions. >> thank you, michael. thank you for having me. >> tonight's survey question if you go to my website asks what i just raised with dr. fauci. should covid vaccines be required for airline flights within the united states? 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>> i am surprised. i think it's a mistake. we, obviously, thought many months ago that we should put it in place. we argued for it in september because we anticipated that people would need two vaccines and if you wanted to prevent transmission during thanksgiving, that was going to be an important element. especially because it's not just on the airplanes. it's in the airports. it's in the transportation to and from the airports that you have potential for transmission. it suggests to me that tony fauci is interested in having the mandate. i think that's what his original comment suggested, but that there are other people in the white house above him, i guess, who are not interested and not supportive of that. i don't know what the calculation is and i don't know why we want it on international travel but not domestic travel. that doesn't make sense to me. there is a logistical issue of how people prove they are vaccinated, the fact that we have not put in a good vaccine certification system. so that is part of it, i'm sure. >> i should point out that you extend that to interstate travel, including buses and railways as well, not just airline tlafl. >> yeah. if you go on to trains and you take an amtrak train, you can see that, you know, there is chances for plenty -- mine, those are big cars, people are in them. even if the air is circulated, multiple times in an hour, people aren't, i would say, assiduous in their mask-wearing. they are eating on the trains. that is another place where we could v transmission, especially with something highly contagious. >> do you think it's out of concern for private industry? i mean, in feview of dr. fauci' comment, economic was not a word he used to, i used that. but in view of what he did say, do you think there is concern that the airline industry has already been rattled and that probably they would suffer if, in fact, a mandate were to be put in place? >> i don't actually think they would suffer. again, i think it's possible that a lot of people would feel safer. i think what people are suffering from is the fact that there is a very highly transmissable variant out there and you see people pulling back, canceling airplane trips, canceling hotel reservations, not going to the theater, et cetera. if people were more confident that transmission was low, you would probably see a lot more of that. and the way to get that kind of community level transmission to be low is to have more people vaccinated. the reason to do the vaccines for travel is to get more people vaccinated. that is the fundamental point. >> dr. emmanuel, from social media, put it up on the screen. i will read it aloud so we can respond. what do we have? we don't have a choice who we are stuffed into a cabin with, says julie. you, obviously, agree with that point? >> yes. i agree with that point. and i think the same thing is true when you go to a restaurant, when you go to the theater, when you go outdoors -- when you go into some facility. you don't choose who they are. you don't know how good the ventilation is. although on airplanes it is good. you know, a lot of people are not good about wearing high-quality masks and keeping them over their nose and well sealed. >> look, it can be done. i have noted before the first time -- this will sound odd. the first time i was asked to show proof of vaccination was at a concert i went to. was it the most arduous of inspections? not really. i appreciated it and 40,000 people were there that might. one more. put it bakck on the screen. ideally, yes, but perceived loss of liberties. that's a good argument. what do you say who say those tread on me? an intrusion on my personal liberties? >> look, you i think i said it before. this is not an argument that any american founding father would understand. they would be confused. you mean you are going to go around with something contagious, something that could kill other people, and you say that you have the liberty to do that? they wouldn't recognize that. it's not a matter of liberty. liberty is when you don't impinge and threaten the well being of your neighbor. when you threaten the well being of your neighbor because you are not vaccinated, you have -- aren't taking precautions that's not liberty. that's not taking sindividual responsibility. and i think that is the fundamental issue. when you have an infectious disease circulating be and you could be spreading it, you are not at liberty to infect other people and potentially end their lives. that's not what we stand for -- >> doctor, thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> thank you, michael. we are going to turn to tonight's breaking news. the death of an american sports legend. john madden wasn't just a super bowl winning coach. he was a welcome face and voice in living rooms for so many nfl seasons. bob cost eas will join me. that's next. hi susan! honey? yeah? i respect that. but that cough looks pretty bad... try this robitussin honey. the real honey you love... plus the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash? 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incredible sounding board to me and so many others. there will never be another john madden and we will forever be indebted to him for all he did to make football and the nfl what it is today. joining me na, bob costas. you were there at the inception of his broadcast career. explain. >> yeah, he had just left the raiders after coaching for ten years and at the then tender age of 42. he never looked back. he didn't want to coach again but he wasn't sure he wanted to abbroadcaster. cbs put him in a booth next to vin skuli. it was the 49ers against the rams. they had me at age 27 just giving him the framework of doing some play-by-play while he tried out as an analyst. and he was very, very nervous and he wasn't at all sure he wanted this to be his post-coaching career, but after four quarters i couldn't have predicted everything that would happen, but it was pretty clear he could be a broadcaster if he wanted to be, and he went on to be an iconic broadcaster, obviously. >> for me, as a fan, his gift was the every man quality, that others tried to imitate. i have to say that i watched some of the contemporary broadcasters have that locker room feel among one another. he didn't have to put on those airs. he was a guy i would have loved to have on a lounge next to me with a beer watching the game. you can't teach that, right? >> you have got it 100%. and what was interesting was he absolutely was a quintessential every man, but at the same time utterly unique. nerve anybody else like him before and i guarantee you since. bill belichick put it well when he said, from a mile away he'd never be confused with anyone else. you know, sometimes when people are on the air, i am sure it happened to you, people say are you who i think you are? or they confuse you to someone else who does the same thing. nobody ever confused john madden with anybody else. he was john madden, the one and only. you're right. some people try. they think that personality is measured in decibel levels and try to have a shtick, whereas a guy like john madden or someone hike harry carey, their on air persona was a slight amplification of who they were and that's why it rang true to the audience. >> bob, the madden bus. things we associate with john madden. at the top of that list is the bus. >> yeah, he didn't like to fly, not because he was afraid of heights, but because he became claustrophobic. first i tried going by train. that wasn't good enough. having his own bus with an early satellite dish on the top so he could pick-up games as went from coast to coast in some situations, and being able to stop any time he wanted if he felt like he had to stretch his legs or get out, as he put it, eat. never dine. i eat. i don't dine. and most of the time it was at a diner, some roadside place where people were shocked and amazed he walked in the door. he greeted everybody, just a regular meat and potatoes guy. if we rewind to the coaching, just in his 30s or early 40s, the raiders were a really colorful team. you can start with the owner, al davis, controversial, but unforgettable. george blanda, who played until he was 50, quarterback and placekicker. ben davidson and ted hendricks defensively. george atkinson and jack tatum. the snake, kenny stabler, their quarterback. fred biletnikoff, the wide receiver. and madden himself was unmistakable on the sideline. his regular season record is still by percentage either the best or the second best in nfl history. he basically won 75 or 76% of the games he coached. they finally won the super bowl in january of 1977 when they blew the vikings out, but prior to that he had come so close so many times. he lost several afc championship games because there were other great teams that were contemporaries, the chiefs, the dolphins, chuck knowles' steelers. >> every one of those name references returns me to my youth and playing football in the backyard. hey, one other observation, if i may. i think of schwarzenegger, of arnold schwarzenegger having conquered three distinctly different field as an actor, mr. universe, as a politician. with regard to john madden, yes, there was a sort of inner connectivity, but he really excelled in three different ways, football related, right, as a coach, as a broadcaster and of course in the gaming industry. that's how my kids know john madden. >> yeah, plus the commercials, the ace hardware commercials and miller lite commercials. you know, we have to remind ourselves, you and i being of a certain age, anyone under the age of 50 has no real firsthand recollection of john madden the coach. but if you said to a 12-year-old kid today, john madden passed away, that would have an impact on that kid. he or she knows who john madden is. you know, the word legendary or iconic, those words are thrown around too loosely, especially in sports, but they applied to him. and one nice note. you may have seen this, michael, much of the country did. on christmas day there was a 90-minute biographical tribute to john madden is that aired on fox. i imagine now with his passing it will air again sometime soon. and he watched it with his entire family and he was very moved by all of the nice things that were said about him. and if there is something to be taken away from this, very often the tributes come after somebody's gone, just three days before he passed he got to see what the football world and what a good portion of the country felt about him. it meant a lot to him and it meant to a lot to his family. >> what a great point. bob costas, thank you so much. i am picturing the two of you, you at age 27 in that booth. i would have loved to be a fly on the wall. >> let me tell you something. i should have been sitting on his knee. ef took up 80% of the screen. >> thank you, bob. hey, we have more breaking news. the death of another giant, this one in the senate. former senate majority leader harry reid died this afternoon. he was born in search light, nevada, once a 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premiers next week. he is back to expand on his thoughts. thanks for coming back, scott. what were you talking about? i should have asked a follow up or two and i didn't. >> well, if you think about the state of play right now, men are twice as likely to overdose, three times as likely to be arrest and four times as like think to kim kill themselves. when you walk down the avenue that is america the next five years, there will be twice and many female graduates of college than male graduates and a scary stat is that if you look at the number of young men 18 to 24 that haven't had sex in the last year, and you hear the term sex and your mind goes all these different places, think of as a elemental foundation to any society, a relationship and a family, in 2008 it was 10% had not had sex in the last year. now it's 30%. so you're talking about a group of men that are not attaching to work, not attaching to school and not attaching to relationships. and the most violent unstable societies in the world have one thing in common. they have too many young broken alone males. >> is this because of the pandemic or accelerated by the pandemic? >> yeah, it's absolutely an accelerant. that will be covid's feature. there isn't anything that hasn't happened. most can be reverse engineered. 40 years ago people under the age of 30 controlled 19% of the economy or had wealth equivalent to 19% of gdp. that's cut in half to 9%. if you think about our tax policies, they are really just a sleight-of-hand to transfer health from young people to old people. mortgage interest, capital gains from young people to older people in the form of social security. the net of this combined with not as many men graduating from college is men are just less attractive to women who tend to mate socioeconomically horizontal legally and up whereas men horizontally as down. the issue is when you arehave a group of many, the lower half of attractiveness of men, online dating doubled, half of relationships in the top 20% of men in terms of attractiveness get 60% of the there, you end up with men prone to conspiracy theory, misogynistic content, not believe in climate change. so this is the american story. if it's written with a pen whose ink is failing young men, does not end well. this is an existential crisis failing young men. >> so, scott, i know firsthand that you reach the very individuals that you are addressing because i have three sons under my roof and to them you're a rock god. so what do you say to the men that you're talking about? >> i mean this sincerely. that means a lot coming from you michael. we need a tax policy that restores the compact in american in any society. if you play by the rules, by the time you're 30 you will be doing better than your parents at 30. for the first time in history, that is no longer the case. my industry needs to fall back in love with unremarkable kids, expand their freshman seats and stop this rejectionist positions. and i think more than anything stls a man in the mirror test. men like you and me and our generation need to show up. i was raised by a single mother. all of my teachers were women but i always had wonderful men in my life. the neighbor who took me horseback riding, a math teacher who stayed after school to teach me how to drive, the boyfriend that even after my mom and her broke up, taught me about stocks and the market. if you are fortunate enough to be blessed as you and i are with secure loving good citizens, young men, we have an obligation to reach into the homes where that's not the case. in some we need better policies, better opportunities, including vocational training. more than anything, if we want more, better young men in our society, we need better men. >> i'm also worried about the lack of social interaction. too much time spent online creating some image of a life instead of living one and the longer we're not together in the workplace, this is another reason why i find what you said alarming, the less social interaction there will be. as you were speaking i was thinking about how many marriages i am aware of that began as co-workers. >> one in three relationships begin at work. and technology has sort of a winner take all effect. when technology comes into mating and now it used to be one in five relationships began online, now it's one in two, you have this variance where essentially if the top 10% of men in terms of attractiveness are going to have 60 to 80% of the opportunities, which delays household formation and the bottom half have absolutely no hope for relationship formation, this all leads to an underclass of men. you think, well, okay, it's not -- is it time? is it okay? it's not that we need to punish any one cohort. we need to dramatically invest in younger people such that they can level up and have the same opportunities we had, specifically that will raise the tide of young men. 7 in 10 high school valedictorians are women. we are seeing a wage inequality. women are below blowing past men under the age of 30. it declines when they have children. there is still work to be done there. this a real crisis for us. young men in our society relative to every other cohort have lost more ground than any other group and it is dangerous for us. it is dangerous for america. >> quick final comment, if you wouldn't mind. to someone who has been half listening and hears sexism in anything that you have been saying. by the way, i don't, but i want to raise it so you can respond before you leave. >> it is appropriate to check comments that feel as if we are prioritizing any one cohort over the other. that this is about recognizing about young families need investment. we don't need more men in college. we need more people of color, more women, and a lot more men in college and we need more economic opportunity for younger people, which slowly but surely my generation has usurped all economic opportunity, whether it's bailing out baby boomers in the form of loans, transfer payments or tax policy. we need to reinvest in young people and reinvest in our young men. >> can i read aloud one social media to scott galloway? okay. here we go. skip the office. learn a trade. at the end of the day there is a physical representation of what you accomplish. i did the college office thing when i had a chance to get into the carpenter's union i jumped. best decision i ever made. no sops, hr debt or spreadsheets. i assume you agree with that, scott? >> it's a great comment. in germany, 50% of the population has a certification and the u.s. it's less than 10%. we need to acknowledge that college isn't for everybody and for the 60% of our young men and women who don't get a college degree we need to offer more on-ramps into the middle class. >> scott galloway, thanks. that was excellent. so glad you came back. >> thank you, michael. good to see you. right back with a personal message about the message that is being missed this holiday season. you might be noticing the same thing in your own lives. i'll explain. 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[echoing] get a quote today. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ it's in the cards. not a phrase to describe 2021 where a turbo charged pandemic was unforeseeable given the miraculous vaccines readily available. when i say "in the cards" it's personal for me. holiday cards, my favorite part of the season, sending and receiving. i like seeing pictures of my friend's kids and charting their growth, seeing who ordered online and who went old school and used a local printer. i even like those goofy letter greetings where people give me a long rundown on everything from the summer trip to the jersey shore to the kid report cards. sometimes i have no idea who sent them to me but i still read them to the end. there are things we do annually in life that trigger a gut check and holiday cards are it for me. i think they make me stop and take stock of where we are, what we've gained, what we've lost or who we've added to our lives or who sadly we've lost. for as long as i can remember, we sent picture cards from my house. when our four kids were young, we took a photo of them on vacation in west virginia and used it as our card that year. then 20 or so years later we returned to the exact same spot, this time with a son-in-law in tow and recreated the picture for a new card. the older our kids get, they're in their 20s and 30s, the more interested they've become over the negotiation of which family photo we'll use. add in the family debate of the greeting and we're usually right up against the dideaddeadline b christmas. diverse is especially tough. do you send to the ex-wife, ex-husband, both, neither? maybe you never liked her but now she has the kids and you want them to know that you're thinking of them. what then? it's a larry david episode waiting to happen. i usually spearhead the effort in our house. i get all the addresses together, i'm the keeper of the xl spreadsheet which raises another consideration. is it too impersonal if they're auto addressed? do i have to sign every one? i'm beating myself up this year because after 30 straight years we've sent no family card in 2021. why not? i don't know. not enough time. not in the spirit. a combination of hectic schedules, lack of motivation and some doubt on my part as to what exactly to say in the midst of a pandemic that we thought we'd have ended long ago. and despite a great reason to celebrate, the birth of our first grandson, there he is, my wife and i crazy about him, no better christmas present for us. of course he would have been the star of our christmas card but that ship has sailed. i am, however, leaving the door open to sending out a new year's card. i can't mail one to all of you but i can offer you warm wishes for a happy new year and more importantly a healthy one as this is our last live show of the year. but we are not done yet. cnn films has a new must-see carole king and james taylor, "just call out my name." the film premieres sunday at 9 p.m. eastern only on cnn. we'll be right back with reaction to tonight's program. ow! i'm ok! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ only in theaters december 17th. [upbeat acoustic music throughout] i'm greg, i'm 68 years old. i do motivational speaking in addition to the substitute teaching. i honestly feel that that's my calling-- to give back to younger people. i think most adults will start realizing that they don't recall things as quickly as they used to or they don't remember things as vividly as they once did. i've been taking prevagen for about three years now. people say to me periodically, "man, you've got a memory like an elephant." it's really, really helped me tremendously. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. here are the results of tonight's survey question. should covid vaccines be required for airline flights within the united states? more than 11,000 voted 89% said yes, pretty decisive. only 11% said no. wish we had time for more social media but i'm up against the clock and i want to hand things over for "don lemon tonight", my friend laura coates sitting in. >> thank you. great program. >> nice to see you. >> happy new year. >> you, too. >> we have breaking news. two giants died tonight, long-time senator and democratic leader harry reid and legendary nfl coach and broadcast are john madden. harry reid, the scrappy, former democratic senate leader who spearheaded epic legislative battles th