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i'm john berman with brianna keilar on this "new day". the clock is ticking on capitol hill. federal funding set to run out. and where does it land? on the backs of millions of hard-working americans. the manhunt continues for brian laundrie. what we are now learning about a camping trip he went on with his parents before he disappeared. and the nation's top generals publicly contradicting president biden on afghanistan, saying they urged him no the to withdraw all troops. the concerns they conveyed. and another trump staffer spilling the tea on the president, including claims of harassment. his, quote, terrifying temper and how a broadway song helped calm him down. all right. good morning to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. it is wednesday, september 29th. the week from hell on capitol hill. congress has less than two days to head off a partial government shutdown. after that, the potential collapse of the u.s. economy as republicans have voted against paying u.s. debts. while that's going on, there have been feverish negotiations over the sweeping economic agenda by the president. kyrsten sinema made three trips to the white house yesterday. three. for what? progressive democrats say they don't know. and that's a major problem. these progressives say they will not vote for a bipartisan infrastructure bill, roads, bridges, et cetera, unless they also get a vote on child care, pre-k. mod rats, including sinema are standing in the way. they say they have no idea what her counteroffer is, and they're angry. a week from hell. the first order of business is funding the federal government. it could shut down the housing department, treasury, department of homeland security, food and drug administration, u.s. small business administration >> if the nation defaults, that will mean pain for millions of hard-working americans already burdened with the pandemic. salaries for federal workers would be impacted. so would payment to medicaid recipients, social security checks, paychecks for military personnel in there's a shutdown, as well as monthly child tax credit departments. let's talk about this with cnn correspondent john harwood. where do things stand here? tax pears will be the ones holding the bag if you see a shutdown or a default. . >> well, it's a mess. and this may not be the last week from hell. even if the government shutdown is avoided. we should level set at the beginning. theres not going to be a government shutdown. they're going to work that out. they're going to separate that out and keep the government funded. i also think it is unlikely that there's going to be a debt default. we will not know that for a while. there is a huge game of chicken between chuck schumer and the democrats. in 2011 when we had a downgrade of u.s. debt, had we got right to the brink, mitch mcconnell is a rational actor who does not want a debt default, nor do democrats. in 2011, some of the house republicans, they actually didn't care. >> right. >> they thought you could get away with it, order the payment of bills so it wasn't a problem. what we've got right now is nancy pelosi trying to hold her caucus together. she's very good at that. you she can't do it unless she gets signals from mod rats. so joe biden is trying to bring sinema and manchin on board, get them to define their positions so they can make a deal. and of course republicans are offering roadblock resistance. one of the questions will be if they vote tomorrow on the infrastructure bill, what do republicans do? do they help it over the finish line to pass it, or try to take it down and join some of the progressives who might try to take it down as well. . >> the vote tomorrow is on the bipartisan infrastructure bill. . >> if it happens >> if it happens. because it's in jeopardy at this point. it's a little over a trillion dollars. separately, you have the kind of bigger democrat-only social safety net bill, which is where it's very difficult to see where kyrsten sinema or joe manchin are on that. nancy pelosi had initially said these things kind of go as a package, right? she seems to have moved away from that, saying that that bipartisan bill could go forward. and yet this vote seems very much in jeopardy. . >> that is because they are still a package. they are not formally linked. she is not sequencing a vote, so the infrastructure vote, again, if it take place, does not necessarily come after the reconciliation vote. but what they've got to do as democrats is figure out what they are for collectively. this is why sinema is a problem. ultimately, the logic of this coming together, there is a common identity among the majorities, that they see common purpose with one another, their electoral fortunes are bond together about how they to and how joe biden does. so the team mentality gets them to come together for both the reconciliation. however, kyrsten sinema is very hard to define politically. joe manchin is not so hard to define. he is a democrat. he represents a conservative state that donald trump won by 40 percentage points. he will naturally be reluctant to come along. she was in the green party before she was a democrat. the longer it goes without her defining her bottom line, a lot of people will wonder does she want all of us to succeed together or not. >> they are getting impatient. it is lovely to see you this morning. all right. the week from hell could turn in the economic calamity from hell if the u.s. defaults on its debts, which republicans for now have voted to let happen. u.s. treasury secretary janet yellen is kwrwarning against th. this is what she said to the senate banking committee. >> this would be a manufactured crisis we imposed on this country which has been going through a difficult period, is on the road to recovery and it would be a self-inflicted wound of enormous proportions. >> treasury secretary janet yellen warning against this. the markets tanked yesterday. they have had a terrible month in part, and there's a lot 06 other things, in part because they are looking at washington, like, you guys are juggling flaming swords here. this is not a good idea. >> you know, the market hates uncertainty. and right now what the market sees is we are putting ourselves against the precipice of what treasury secretary yellen rightly suggests is not just catastrophe, but a self-imposed recession. the juggernaut we're facing right now is we have the delta variant, combined with monetary policy, which is starting to slow, which means the federal reserve bank, which has been buying a lot of bonds in the marketplace, which has been propping up the economy, is worried increasingly about inflation. what are we going to do with government spending and the debt ceiling? and, john, the other fact or o, we are going into third-quarter earnings. we have start to see companies renounce talking about supply chain disruptions and labor shortages. we have had three consecutive months of consumer confidence declining. we are starting to see major economists ratchet down expectations for the economy. this is a combination, when you pull all the pieces together of what could be a real dangerous cliff. >> john harwood just reported he thinks sooner than later they will work out the debt issues. wall street seems to be saying, yeah, maybe. but the mere fact that you are, as i put it to you before we came on tv, blanking around, or flirting with this, that's bad enough. >> it is bad enough. here's the thing folks need to realize. if you're sitting at home wondering why do i care about this debt ceiling, treasury secretary yellen put it very nicely. what we're essentially doing, when you increase or suspend the debt ceiling, essentially what you're saying is we're keeping a credit card balance. essentially what we want to do is have a larger credit card balance. it doesn't mean that authorizes government spending. so if we take this close to the precipice, this is what will be impacted, social security, our troops will not get paid. child tax credits are how families survive every day. add to that, john, the entitlements from the past bills. they ran off in september, right? you had access to housing runoff in september. so all of these things are coming at once. the democrats knew they could get the infrastructure bill done. the problem is $3.5 trillion spending bill, which does things like support child care and tax credits and health care are super important to the economy right now. that's why they are trying to connect the two. >> talk to me about what the economic need is now. >> they're enormous. let me give you one example. 2 million women have not returned back to the workforce. why? because in covid they had to go home and take care of their children. child care, dental care, afford bible housing are critically important to millions of women in america who are the only bread winner in the home. let's talk about climate. we all know we have a huge climate problem. it is a big part of this 3$3.5 trillion spending bill. and oil prices. do you know what it means for your winter heating bills? you have this dangerous intersection between entitle thes coming off, the risk to the debt ceiling not being raised, or at least suspended so we can maintain government spending, with the reality of what we need in that $3.5 trillion bill. >> what you have is progressive democrats saying, okay, then, senator joe manchin and kyrsten sinema, tell us what's not on your version of that list? and they're not telling. . >> that's essentially the problem, right? if you think bit, the reason the republicans don't want to go along on the 3.5 trillion, they do not want to raise the debt ceiling heading into the mid-term elections. we get that. but the reality is what treasury secretary yellen said yesterday, this is both of our fiduciary responsibility. last i checked i think we spent 8 trillion through a year and a half of fiscal monetary stimulus to get the economy out of this. they want to see the 3.5 trillion curtailed. what you heard spoker pelosi suggest, maybe it's not 3.5 trillion. maybe there's negotiation. the reality is at a minimum we need a stopgap measure to get ourselves at a minimum through december. as treasury secretary yellen said, october 18th is when we are in catastrophe mode. >> i'll take september. >> one thing folks don't talk about, the reality of not being able to pay our bills, think about that. the two largest holders of our debt are japan and china. the consequences to the global economy, the contagion would be catas catastrophic. >> it seems like a bad idea. >> yes. >> good to see you. >> good to see you. what we are learning about brian laundrie and a camping trip he went on with his parents. top officials contradicting biden on support. what they suggested he should have done instead. and what could be one of the most unfortunate songs from one of the most unfortunate broadway musicals ever. why the former president of the united states needed that song to calm him down. among the most alarming revelations in a new book. >> it's not so bad. centrum multigummies aren't just great tasting... they're power-packed vitamins... that help unleash your energy. loaded with b vitamins... ...and other key essential nutrients... ...it's a tasty way toto conqr your day. try centrum m multi gummies. now with a new look.k. with downy infusions, let the scent set the mood. feel the difference with downy. you booked a cozy vrbo mountain cabin. 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>> yeah. i thought it was interesting. and certainly is consistent with what general milley and the rest of the military leaders were at the end of the trump administration. you know, i think that it's going to be interesting to see how biden eventually addresses this question, which is a very legitimate question. but the thing to remember about president biden is that he effectively had made this decision to withdraw years ago, when he was part of the obama administration. he long felt this has lasted too long. and i think i would expect him to lean into the power of his conviction on this decision and probably leave it to others to explain. but there's quite a bit of explanation left about what happened here. >> so milley said that he warned both biden and trump that a quick withdrawal could lead to the collapse of afghanistan. i think we knew that. i think the question is, that the collapse would be so quick. and i don't know what anyone really knew that. what do you think? >> i think you saw the -- milley and others acknowledge that. i mean, that was one of the things that struck me about this hearing yesterday, the candor from military officials across the desk. you played the clip of milley referring to it as a strategic failure is pretty striking. it is a level of candor you don't normally hear at any of these hearings, including one of the top leaders of the u.s. military. >> you had mckenzie saying i'm not going to talk about what he recommended and then turning around in the next breath and explaining what he recommended. the standing in the world was also a candid admission when he is talking about a withdrawal of a standing president and the standing of the u.s. in the world right now. >> yeah. i think that's right. i think that goes back to this sort of definition here and phrase that he used a couple of times of strategic failure. and goes to the question of what our role is in the middle east and what openings we have left for adversaries to step into that role. milley takes this job very seriousy. i think you saw that yesterday. at the very least, he's concerned not only just about his role but the standing of the country and how the military is there to support that. >> your name came up. let's listen. >> did you talk to michael bender for his book "frankly we did win this election, the inside story of how trump lost"? >> yes. >> were you accurately represented in these books. >> i haven't read any of the books. >> i mean, there's been a lot of coverage of the books. i'm assuming he may have seen some of that, michael. were i don't seeing a moment like this where you had a sitting chairman of the joint chiefs of staff or a sitting official of that stature admitting he was a source for multiple books. . >> or being asked about it. i was interested to know where she was going with that line of questioning. i'm flattered that senator blackburn is encouraging people to read my book. and milley acknowledged a couple of seconds later in that hearing that he had seen plenty of headlines coming from it and was familiar with it. i can't say president trump attacked me over this book. and the reason he did that is because he knew that people who normally don't talk to reporters were talking to me for this book. as for the accuracy goes, there is nothing in my book that relies on any single source. everything has multiple sources on these bits of information. and certainly i stand by all the reporting between the two covers. . >> michael, thank you so much. michael bender. it is great to see you this morning. there is another new book, tell-all book by former press secretary for president trump, and she's making some pretty damning claims. plus, a friday deadline for teachers to get vaccinated in new york or find another job. mayor bill de blasio joins us live ahead. ♪ you probably think visa is a credit card company, huh? 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anyone who dealt with her as a journalist, knows she was the fiercest, staunchest defender of the white house. there is a sense that she is cashing in right now. but, yes, she talks about the president harassing one particular young press aide and calling her up to the front of the plane to look at her from behind. i don't think any of this is particularly surprising from donald trump, but it would be from absolutely any other president. . >> this theater we see what it comes to vladimir putin. i mean, some interesting anecdotes about the things putin tried with president trump but president trump basically assured him, we're chummy in person. i'm going to be a little tougher on you in front of the cameras. >> i think that is alarming and disturbing and the fact that they brought in an attractive female interpreter to kind of distract trump as though it shows putin was really the one in control of this relationship. i was surprised that stephanie was as brutal and blunt about trump in this book as she was. she is somebody who was talking about evicting the press in the brady press briefing room. she was going along with the plan. i don't know if it was january 6th. but something clearly happen that made her turn to the trumps. >> and she worked for mellania trump. she was chief of staff, spokesperson for melania trump. she talked a bit about the post stormy daniels story. i felt that mrs. trump was basically unleashed. she had always been independent from her husband. now as a wronged and publicly humimiliated first lady, she seemed liberated to do whatever she wanted or didn't want, to do. >> it made sure seem more human. she was the least transparent first lady we have ever had. so little is known about her. and the fact that she was upset with her husband for cheating on her but also publicly embarrassing her makes sure seem like a living, breathing person. and so in a way it's actually a sympathetic portrayal of melania trump >> do you think it's deserved? >> yes, absolutely. no, i think she should have been humiliated, obviously. but i think there is a level of sympathy you can have for what she went through. but i also think that she squandered so much opportunity in that job. she really just could have done so much more as first lady. and the whole be best campaign, no one knew what it was about. i'm not sure if stephanie knew what it was about. . >> let me read a statement. too bad that sleaze bag publishers continue to report this very boring garbage. we in the maga movement are totally used to it. is and some day in the not too distant future we will have our voice back and be treated fairly by the press. you brought up her issues with honesty in the white house. you had some back and forth with her, yes? >> yes. i wraoe aote an op-ed about mel trump, and she attacked me about it. she is their fiercest defender. she had many opportunities in the white house to be up front with the press. she had opportunities to quit before january 6th. so it's a little disingenuous to see her slamming the president, i think. >> kate andersen brower, thank you for being with us. thank you. fireworks in the final debate in the governor's race. each candidate accusing the other of lying to voters. a live report is next. new cnn reporting in on liz cheney's political future. the new sensodyne repair and protect with deep repair has the science to show that the toothpaste goes deep inside the exposed dentin to help repair sensitive teeth. my patients are able to have that quality of life back. i recommend sensodyne repair and protect with deep repair. 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