about these talks? >> reporter: fred, this is such a critical moment for democrats as they work throughout the weekend to try to broker a deal, reach an agreement that so far has been allusive to them. now, there is still this continued stalemate among house democrats. you have the moderates who want speaker of the house nancy pelosi to hold firm and hold that vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill on monday and then you have progressives in the house, they are pushing back about that. they want to tank the infrastructure bill, they have threatened to vote against it in mass until they can first get an agreement on their broader economic bill, that social spending bill $3.5 trillion bill and there so far has been no agreement from the senate over the contours of those -- that bill. now, speaker throwsy says it is her intention next week to pass both of those bills but -- bills, but at this moment the path forward is very, very unclear. today up here on capitol hill we will see a very rare session of the budget committee in just about an hour, they will be working to pull together the economic plan, but that's largely substantive -- excuse me, largely symbolic in nature over substantive. they're basically just combining pieces that the committees have worked with in essence to try to show some progress and appease the progressives as they inch forward on all of these deadlines next week. on monday a critical moment for house democrats, they will gather for a caucus meeting at 5:30 p.m. eastern time likely before any vote is held this week to talk about the path forward, to take the temperature from the members but of course that path forward murky at best. >> could be a long day and evening on monday. thank you so much, sunlen serfaty. appreciate that. with me now is cnn political commentator david swerdlick who is also assistant he had store for the "washington post," ," margaret talevs. david, you first, gentleman first in this case. this democratic stalemate on biden's agenda, do you see any way the democrats can bridge this divide within party and find a way to unite behind these bills? >> good afternoon, fred. look, i think democrats are making this harder than it has to be. if progressives and they're not going to like hearing this work backwards from the fact that what they're going to get through is whatever senator manchin, the most conservative member of their caucus is willing to accept, then i think they could get to a quicker solution. maybe on monday they have to vote down the bipartisan infrastructure package that has already passed the senate with 19 republican votes at least one time just to show they mean business, but at the end of the day i think they're going to get further by taking what they can get and then moving forward and being able to claim victory. i don't think the benefit they get out of having, let's say, a $3.5 trillion reconciliation budget bill go through a going to be that much greater than if they get, say, 2 or $2.5 trillion versus the political down sides of creating chaos in their caucus in the house and the senate and not letting president biden, you know, throw a clear victory symbol up and say he's moving his agenda forward. we are not that far from 2022 and election year. >> so, margaret, this is also a major test for house speaker pelosi if she's able to appease or bring together moderates and progressives and help them see exactly what david was saying. do you want to tank everything, you know, to stay in your corner or, you know, how do you measure what's going to be most beneficial for party or for policy? >> fred, i think that is the messaging challenge for speaker pelosi because the truth is there are some members of the house democratic caucus in the progressive wing who actually think that it would be the better thing for the democratic party to tank everything, have it go down in a ball of flames and try to have elections where more progressive democrats are elected to the caucus. this is not popular to talk about out loud, but it is an undercurrent that runs through some of the strategy of some of the discussions. i would say the majority of the democratic caucus doesn't feel that way and biden has made clear that in order for not just he and the white house, but for the democratic party in congress to really have a chance in the midterm elections next year he has to be able to dlfr that $1.2 trillion. when we period biden talk the other day, maybe yesterday, the time sort of blurs together how it could take a year, there's going to be ups and downs, how i read that, that sounded to me like offering an alternative off ramp in case -- if case they can't quite pull it together right now to say if somehow a deal can't be cobbled together in the next few days that doesn't mean it's dead. that has to be true for him. if he has nothing to show for it this time next year his party will be in peril in the midterm elections. >> rachel, despite these divisions speaker pelosi and democrats somehow seem fairly confident at least some are expressing confidence on being able to pass the president's agenda, but what are the repercussions? give me more on what could potentially happen, the fallout, if they can't get this done. >> well, it depends on which democrat you're talking to. i think a large part of the party feels like if they don't get this passed they're missing a big opportunity right now. i mean, think about it, the last time democrats controlled all of washington was a decade ago. if they're going to do big changes and pass these big bills, you know, free universal pre-k, free community college, that this is the time to do it and they could very much and are projected to lose the house in the 2022 midterms just based on history, the power being in power typically loses two dozen seats in the midterm election. so this is the time to do it. look, there are other democrats who believe that as margaret was saying they'd rather have nothing than two bills that total 4$4.5 trillion in all, they're looking at inflation and the economy and they don't think this is a good idea. so those democrats are ready to walk away if they don't get what they want. it really depends on who you are talking about. when it comes to speaker pelosi, the general sort of wisdom in washington is don't underestimate speaker pelosi, she has this iron fist, is able to cobble together her caucus but this is a problem unlike she has ever seen before and that is there's a group of moderates in the house who will not vote for this huge reconciliation bill if joe manchin and kyrsten sinema are not going to vote for it, either. those two moderates in the senate are refusing to commit to anything which makes passing this big bill in the house next week next to impossible. so it's a really tricky and sticky situation for speaker pelosi. i know she's projecting confidence but behind the scenes there is a lot of chaos and a lot of problems she will have to deal with this week. >> david, this comes at such an inopportune time. this should be a time when the democrats are touting some big little wins, i mean, a partisan sham election audit in arizona confirming joe biden wins and, you know, i guess it should be dealing a blow to trump's big lie, even though there are other efforts going on in texas still. i mean, if they can't find common ground on how to recognize some victories and perhaps use it, you know, as momentum, then what other opportunities might there be around the corner? >> right. i think that's the problem. just as margaret and rachel were saying. the arizona audit coming back saying that biden may have gotten more votes than trump than even the republicans were saying and that the audit demonstrated that biden indeed did win arizona and of course contra the big lie, president biden was duly elected president of the united states both in the popular vote and in the electoral college voes which is the one that counts, but i think as democrats you get a little bit of momentum out of something like that to be able to say, look, with he told you so all along, with he knew that we won both houses of congress and the white house and we're going to now continue to do the people's business but you can't say that if you then don't do the people's business by passing the $1 trillion infrastructure bill and the however many trillion dollar budget reconciliation process and raising the debt ceiling. again, democrats seems to me need to look forward 2022 and say we get more mileage out of notching legislative wins and being able to continue some momentum that president biden had in the spring when he passed the stimulus money and when they started rolling out shots that they seemed to have lost a little bit of over the summer. >> and, margaret, what about this kind of kerfuffle, if you will, this controversial gop congresswoman mark ri taylor green back in the spotlight this week, this time involved in a shouting match with democratic congresswoman debbie dingell yesterday on the steps of the capitol over democrats support for a bill protecting women's rights to have abortion access. take a listen. >> killing a baby up until birth is a lack of civility. it's called murder. >> hey, how about some order down there. lack of civility? how about lack of laws or protecting -- >> you should practice the basic thing you're taught in church. respect your neighbor. >> in church? are you kidding me? try being a christian and supporting life. >> you try being a christian -- >> support life. >> -- decently. >> oh, boy. margaret, and then debbie dingell would treat this hold my pearls. how is all of this being received, this kind of public altercation? >> i mean, forget about the democratic caucus, i'd say the republican caucus is horrified by this particular lawmaker, but she drives -- drives so much of her fundraising and buzz from notoriety and from kind of viral things like this that go viral that i think she does feel that it does advantage her. for democrats the balancing act is, you know, what's the point of losing your temper. the concern for leaders in both parties is -- is 2022 going to be a year -- a midterm year when there's an expansion of members like this or are there still sort of a marginal number of members that they have to deal with in this fashion. >> and then the personal challenge with everyone, you know, engage or not engage? 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>> reporter: yeah, so there is this plea coming from new york city police commissioner dermot shay for commerce of the police department to get vaccinated. as eight unvaccinated members of the nypd are in the hospital with covid-19. the police commissioner releasing an internal video message directly addressing police officers. he started off with the good news, more than 60% of the police department has been vaccinated, but then with the bad news, he said that more than a third of the nypd is unvaccinated. in that message he said those in the hospital were perfectly healthy before they were infected and now some are in the hospital on ventilators, some are intubated. one person in the hospital he said is a 23-year-old now fighting for his life. >> why do i keep coming back to you on this? i will tell you why. because i'm talking to family members, i'm talking to union representatives of multiple ranks, i'm talking to you and your partners when it's too late, when you are in the hospital or driving to the hospital and you're having difficulty breathing. >> reporter: in the video the commissioner also talks about how the vaccine works, saying of the 28,000 vaccinated nypd members, 225 have had positive covid tests, you know, afterwards, but that not one went to the hospital. fredricka? >> that's a big distinguishing factor right there. alison kosik, thank you so much. good to see you. it is one of the far-reaching effects of the pandemic, major disruptions to america's supply chain. cnn's matt egan tells us where the biggest bottlenecks lie and how it could be affecting your every day life. >> reporter: fredricka, supply chains are a hot mess right now. in one of the biggest problems is a worldwide computer chip short annual. chips are a key component in the modern economy, used from everything from cars to coffee machines to pelotons, pretty much everything that has an on/off switch. it is forcing ford, gm and other auto companies to splash production driving up costs on new and used vehicles. the chip shortage is being caused by factory outages linked to covid outbreaks and extreme weather, also the result of strong demand. gina raimondo told me that this highlights a major vulnerability in america's intricate supply chain. >> the reason we are in this mess is because for a long time we haven't invested. we took our eye off the ball, used to lead the world in semi-conductor manufacturing and now we don't. we just have dizsinvested. president biden is championing a bill in congress called the chips act which will put $50 billion to stimulate production of semi-conductors in america and the commerce department will lead on that initiative, but fundamentally it's pretty simple, we need to make more chips in america. >> reporter: but that won't solve the immediate issue. in the meantime u.s. officials are asking the industry to share information about their supply chains with the federal government. the goal is to try to catch some of these bottlenecks before they emerge. the commerce secretary told me that they are, quote, asking nicely for now, but if the industry doesn't comply she threatened to compel them to share information by evoking a cold war era law. still raimondo conceded the supply of computer chips won't be back to normal until late 2022 if not later. computer chips are just one part of the problem right now. companies are scrambling to find trucks, drivers, shipping containers and various ingredients. these issues are so severe that costco is once again placing limits on purchases of toilet paper, paper towels and cleaning supplies. except unlike in 2020, these restrictions aren't being driven by panic buying, it's because of supply headaches. fredricka, welcome to the delta economy where you can't always get what you want when you want it. >> matt egan, thank you so much for that. coming up next, county officials in texas say they are in the dark about a so-called audit of the 2020 vote just announced by state officials. former president trump's involvement in all of this next. i see you found the snacks. mmm, delicious! i need this recipe. everyone thinks i made them, but it's actually d-con. what was that? 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>> reporter: well, fred, trump supporters do not see this as a backfire. a lot of them were wearing shirts and holding signs yesterday at the senate building saying trump won, stop the steal. they firmly believe what they want to believe despite the fact that this group cyber ninjas that was hired to do this review, they were hired by the republican-led arizona state senate, they have no experience with election auditing, it took them five months with very changing methods for how they were going about this process, stops and starts, no bipartisan oversight. so this is their hand-picked group telling this audience that joe biden did, in fact, win maricopa county, which we've already known for almost a year. but they only spent a couple minutes talking about that result. they spent the rest of a three-hour presentation yesterday talking about potential issues that could affect possibly tens of thousands of ballots without concrete evidence and these issues have been debunked by election experts. at the same time you have maricopa county election officials through their official twitter account they were live tweeting rebuttals point by point explaining to the public how election processes actually work and you've got ken matta the information security officer for the secretary of state's state telling kyung lah that 90% of what was presented yesterday was inaccurate. you have these copy cat efforts that you just mentioned in other states hoping to do third-party reviews like this all in efforts not to overturn election results, we know what those results are, but this is an unprecedented effort to politicize election administration and to sow doubt and crack at that confidence over election results, from he had. >> natasha chen, thank you so much from scottsdale. let's talk more about all of this and more, with me now university of southern california law professor and cnn election law analyst ber neat at that tolson. good to see you, professor. boy, have you had an interesting week? >> absolutely. before i get to the other interesting part, let me ask you, how concerned are you about these partisan-led audits that they continue to fuel the big lie and that the one that failed in arizona is not enough to put others potentially to bed. >> well, to say that this is alarming would be an understatement, fred. i think the fact that millions of dollars were spent to confirm what we already know, right, joe biden won arizona, it really is the fact that this causes substantial damage to the process because it pushes this false narrative. the damage is substantial. democracy works based on faith and participation, people have to believe in the system and the system has to be validated by ensuring that those that are eligible to participate can farce pate. having these fake audits undermines that process. the other states will follow suit even in states that trump won. >> what does it mean to you that even though you have this audit that did -- it was carried out, it didn't result in the numbers and the findings that the former president wanted, but instead it further revealed the truth, that biden won, then that's not enough to stop other states like texas more recently from saying we want as well to have another audit, even though there have been no findings of fraud or anything to legitimize the argument that this election is not to be believed. >> so i think it's hard for people who, you know, who still retain faith in the system. they believe that joe biden won this election, they look at the results and they think that the results are accurate. we're dealing with a segment of the population who have never believe that no matter what happens. we can have more audits, i even hesitate to call them audits, these are just attempts to overthrow a free and fair election. we can continue to do this process and no matter what the outcome is they will still believe that donald trump won in 2020. there's nothing we can do about that other than to make sure that we continue to protect our elections, continue to push the truth and let me emphasize push for federal legislation to protect the electorate so that the people who -- so that people can vote and turn out in our elections and we can continue to hopefully move forward and move fast this. >> are you concerned that it's unrelenting. just this week not just on a state level that you are talking about efforts but now on the federal level, too, with just your exchange this week with texas senator ted cruz on -- during a voting rights hearing. let's just listen to a portion of your experience. >> in your judgment are voter id laws racist? >> so it depends. one thing we have to stop doing is treating all voter id laws as the same. >> i want to move quickly so it depends is your answer. >> that's my answer. >> what voter id laws are racist. >> apologies, mr. cruz, your state of texas perhaps. the fact that the voter id law was put into place to diminish the political power of latinos with racist intent and have been found to have -- >> you're asserting that. what's your evidence for that. >>. the federal district court that first resolved the constitutionality of texas's voter id law. >> okay. >> so we're hearing from him, court findings aren't enough, but as long as you are determined to believe that there are no disenfranchised voters, the senator wants us to believe that these new efforts shouldn't be challenged at all. so does this set the stage in your view for something else on the horizon? >> so one of the things that i've been thinking about lately is particularly in light of this exchange for senator cruz is we continue to fight this every generation. none of this is new, suppression evolves and doesn't ever go away. to your point, fred, there will always be something but we have to continue to fight. with respect to that particular exchange one of the things is that voter id laws can vary. voter suppression is based on context. if you look at texas the fact that the texas law only accepts a small number of ids, a driver's license, a handgun violence, a military identification card but not a student id or a federal id is just a sign that they're trying to exclude certain demographics. that law has an effect on communities of color and that's in addition to the discriminatory intent finding from the federal district court that first looked at the case. i think it's important -- i wasn't saying that all voter id laws are discriminatory it just really depends but to the broader point we have to stay vigilant because things that look race neutral often disproportionately harm communities of color and voter id laws can do that. >> how concerned are you about whether it's midterms, 2022 or whether it's the next presidential election that it will be more difficult for people to vote and that it will stand in the way of people exercising their right? >> that's an amazing question because i think part of the story that came out of 2020 people look at the historic turnout and they say, wow, we did it. people turned out they wanted to vote. we don't think about the people who had to stay home because they were eligible but couldn't supply with the requirements in their particular state. we have to stop applauding people for overcoming unnecessary barriers to vote and start questioning states when they seek to put barriers in place. in 2022 we might have historic turnout but we cannot forget those left behind and these regulations cause people to not be able to exercise their fundamental right to vote. >> professor tolson. thank you so much. >> thank you. still ahead, a heartbreaking scene nearly four weeks after hurricane ida, caskets scattered throughout a louisiana parish as people struggle to recover in other ways. can you be free of hair breakage worries? we invited mahault to see for herself that new dove breakage remedy gives damaged hair the strength it needs. even with repeated combing hair treated with dove shows 97% less breakage. strong hair with new dove breakage remedy. you need an ecolab scientific clean here. and you need it here. and here. and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean is now helping the places you go every day too. seek a commitment to clean. look for the ecolab science certified seal. this may look like a regular movie night. but if you're a kid with diabetes, it's more. it's the simple act of enjoying time with friends, knowing you understand your glucose levels. ♪ we're carvana, the company who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100% online. now we've created a brand-new way for you to sell your car. whether it's a year old or a few years old. we wanna buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate answer a few questions. and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, that's it. so ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana. when you skip the rinse with finish quantum, you save up to 20 gallons of water each time. finish quantum with activblu technology has the power to remove the toughest stains without pre-rinsing for dishes so clean they shine. join finish and skip the rinse to save our water. when we found out our son had autism, his future became my focus. lavender baths calmed him. so we made a plan to turn bath time into a business. ♪ ♪ find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com psst! psst! allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! flonase all good. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ monitor, check and lock down you money with security from chase. control feels good. chase. make more of what's yours. i brought in ensure max protein, with thirty grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks! 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>> it's been difficult. most of those loved ones i buried. after the storm to see the devastation and see the loved ones that we have put to rest, it's devastating to see this, and the families are pretty well disturbed over seeing their loved ones scattered throughout the community. >> it's just heartbreaking. and that you helped, you know, bury so many of, you know -- and carry out the ceremonies of so many of these family members, loved ones. i mean, that is horrifying. and i understand the casket of your mother is missing. you're looking for it. tell me about that. >> well, my mother passed a week before -- two weeks before katrina came and the funeral and she had been -- she was dear to me and it's difficult right now because i can't locate -- i can't locate the casket. so my sister -- my sister also and my uncle, most of my relatives, but most of the family members, grandparents and great-grandparents and mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters, they are all affected because their loved ones have been removed. >> pastor johnson, i'm so sorry about this. so what kind of help is there or what kind of help has there been to help in this recovery process? 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