of their book, the peril, they write, remains. so tonight, we are focusing on that peril, from what continues to be a steady assault on the democratic process and democracy, itself. today, a sign the current president considers the threat serious enough to set aside decades of tradition. in response to a question about invoking executive privilege to shield trump-era records from the house select committee on the insurrection, the white house press secretary said this. >> we take this matter incredibly seriously. and certainly, we are -- we have been working closely with -- with congressional committees and others as they work to get to the bottom of what happened on january 6th. an incredibly dark day in our democracy. >> moments later, psaki said that president biden was taking an eye toward not asserting executive privilege but that requests would be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. just to underscore, though, this is something few presidents do willingly if at all even when it is not their own records being sought. no president wants to be the first to weaken executive privilege. the president apparently determining that the times and the threat may demand it and there were fresh reminders of that. today, we got the results of arizona's bogus partisan review. not even a real audit. of presidential votes in maricopa county and it re-affirmed that joe biden won. which may have been good for, you know, an ironic laugh or two but not much more than that because the so-called cyber ninjas who conducted this thing were about as qualified to audit ballots as you or i. the results had already been certified by republican election officials and re-affirmed in several courts. but -- but competently done or not, in the end, the count itself, it hardly mattered. the former president simply reacted, of course, to the bogus audit which had been launched by the big lie and lied about the actual results. his statement reading, quote, massive fraud was found in the arizona forensic audit. sometimes referred to as fraudit. the numbers are election changing. it's a lie. the fact that they're not election changing didn't stop him. nor did it stop arizona's state republican who ordered this so-called audit or review from firing off a letter to the state attorney general raising fresh doubts about election security which, of course, was always the real aim. a point not lost on this republican congressman who, by the way, is not one of the few who voted to impeach the former president. >> many of my republican colleagues, conservative colleagues, that just don't trust the system. they don't trust the media. they don't trust the election process. and that is a fundamental threat to our future existence and we have to overcome it. and fanning these flames of -- of this lack of faith in our institutions is problematic and we just got to stand firm against it. >> well, he is right about the first part. recent cnn polling shows 78% of republicans do not believe joe biden won. as for the second part about republicans standing firm against the big lie, he simply couldn't be more wrong. it's now a pillar of their party. look no further than what happened last night not in arizona but in the state the former president won. yesterday just hours after the president sent texas governor greg abbott an open letter demanding it, state officials there said they would re-examine ballots in four large counties three of which voted democratic. pennsylvania republicans last week sought drivers' license and social security information from every voter in the state in connection with their inquiry into the 2020 election. wisconsin republicans are pushing for a probe there. and as many experts have noted on this program and elsewhere, these efforts are not just backward looking in nature. i mean, by undermining faith in the last election, they're being used to justify new restrictions for future elections which a string of red states this year have passed. making it harder to vote and making the outcome easier for outsiders to challenge. which then, of course, in turn, undermines faith in elections even further. and threatens democracy as we'll discuss with filmmaker, ken burns, shortly. almost as never before. right now, though, let's start with cnn's kyung lah who's been on this story for -- i mean, god bless you -- for months. and sat in on today's hearing on the so-called audit. so what did these folks say, kyung? >> reporter: well, many hours -- whatever presentation, misinformation campaign, if you will. i actually spoke to ken matta, who is with the secretary of state's office, the information security officer, and he estimates 90% of some of the inflammatory information in there was inaccurate. 90%. let's start with the first presenter to the two senators, senate president karen fann and warren peterson. this guy is a conspiracy theorist. he's an anti-vaxxer. he is known in the far right as dr. shiva. he has no election experience. and yet taxpayers paid him to examine envelopes. and then, the cyber ninja himself, doug logan. he also threw a lot of misinformation out there. except for this one part, anderson, take a listen. >> we take a look at the presidential race. trump actually loses 261 votes from the official votes. biden gains 99 and jorgensen loses 204 votes. and again, these are all, you know, very small numbers when we are talking about 2.1 million ballots. these are very small discrepancies. so we can say that the -- the -- the ballots that were provided to us to count in the coliseum very accurately correlate with the official campus numbers. that came through. >> reporter: so the hand count? trump lost, again. but, you know, that was just a really short part of his presentation, anderson. the rest of it really was conspiracy spaghetti that he kept throwing on the wall, anderson. >> and i mean, i -- i hesitate to call them cyber ninjas because it just seems -- i mean, it seems so absurd. but this company or this man who conducted the audit are actually recommending legislation moving forward. what's that about? >> reporter: yeah. it's -- it's -- it is really hard to say. but we're going to say it because i'm probably never going to be able to say the name cyber ninjas ever again on television. but cyber ninjas is recommending legislation, not just one recommendation. but at the end of a lot of this misinformation that he presented in public, in the arizona senate, even though this isn't an official hearing, he didn't say it just once. he recommended 13 different points of legislation, all of which restrict voting access here in the state of arizona for an election that, by and large, you talk to any election expert. they have been doing this well for a very long time. the same paper used in 2016, also used in 2020. the only thing that changed was the outcome in 2020, anderson. >> kyung lah, appreciate it. thank you. i want to get perspective now from cnn chief legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. and cnn political analyst, kirsten powers. so, jeff, you look at not only arizona, all these other states now taking their lead and conducting their own, you know, so-called sham audits or audits. i mean, this does seem to be the new way forward or one leg of the new way forward for republicans. just keep auditing, keep sowing doubt, keep sowing fear? >> and, you know, anderson, i try not to be an alarmist about this or anything else. but we have to really recognize how profoundly this is a departure from the american political tradition. one of the out -- one of the rules of the game has been when the votes are counted, that's the end. you can have a recount which is an official process. but if that is the end, that is the end. and the idea that republicans are -- are basically asserting that any election, any close election that democrats win is, by definition, illegitimate and they will find a way to discredit it. that's something new in american politics. and it's -- it's -- it's a scary thing and it looks like 2022 is only going to be worse because these forces are mobilizing in advance. limiting the right to vote. and then creating systems where they can discredit any vote that they lose. this -- it's really a scary business. and the supreme court does -- in -- in its new conservative orientation does not seem inclined to stop any of this before it happens. >> obviously, kirsten, the former president, this is all he has going for him. this is what he is going to ride to his deathbed. and, you know, the polling confirms the -- the president's influence. 78% of republicans believe that president biden didn't win the election. you know, how does this not just continue to undermine confidence in -- in free and fair elections going forward? >> it -- it will continue and that is exactly the point. it's -- this is the reason that donald trump started this whole idea that he didn't lose the election. well, for a couple of reasons. one, also, it allows him to declare he is a winner among a group of people that are willing to accept that. so he is actually not somebody who lost the presidency, he is somebody who had the presidency stolen from him. and so that puts him in a better position. but we saw it all through his presidency that he -- he tears down all the institutions because he wants republican voters to only trust him. which is essentially where we are right now. where they -- whatever he says, they accept. and anything to the contrary, they won't listen to. and then, finally, as you alluded to before, this is to justify in their minds coming up with all of these onerous laws around elections to keep people from voting, specifically keeping people who vote for democrats from voting. and so, i think that they -- they -- they are doing this in an effort to say, look, we can't really trust our elections. so we have to create all these new laws to make our elections, you know, functional even though they are functional. >> well, and also, the -- the argument some are making, kirsten, is not even -- i mean, some of it is we can't trust but it's just that so many people feel we can't trust, therefore, we need to act because so many people feel this way that we have to do something about their feelings. and therefore, even though it's not factual. i mean, it's -- it's insane. >> it's -- yeah. it's -- it's completely circular but this is -- this has been something that's been building for a long time. republicans, for a long time, were claiming that democrats were, you know, registering dead people to vote, mickey mouse was, you know, registered to vote and these kinds of things. we had all the -- the controversy around acorn many years ago. and so they have been planting this seed for a long time that -- that democrats are stealing elections or democrats are doing something to disrupt elections which now sort of looks like projection. because they are the ones who are really interested in -- in disrupting the electoral process. >> but -- but they are the ones who control the states. where -- where this is going on. you know, who -- who at least can call the state legislatures in michigan, in pennsylvania, in wisconsin, and -- and the entire government in texas. so it's not just rhetoric. they have the ability to make it harder for students to vote, people of color to vote, poor people to vote. people who vote democratic and that's what they are doing. but even beyond that, they are going into the vote-counting process itself. and that's something new. that is something that -- is -- is an escalation of this -- of these tactics. and in many of these states, there is no check and we'll see what the -- what the courts do about it. but the answer is probably not much. >> well, also, kirsten, what's so cynical and frankly unamerican about this and -- and the being done by so many republicans is that this actually was an incredibly -- probably the most successful election in terms of turnout, people casting votes on all sides of the political aisle. republicans and democrats. it was actually a very good election for republicans, other than the fact that -- that, you know, their president did not get -- get re-elected. i mean, that's the -- what's -- the cynicism of it and it -- it's -- it's kind of so shameless and brazen. >> yeah. exactly. i mean, it -- it is completely cynical and it is -- and it is an attack on democracy. and it's something that people shouldn't take lightly. people should see where this is headed. it's already highly problematic. it's already leading to them passing laws that are going to make it difficult for people to vote. and it's -- it's only going to get worse. the idea that it would become normalized for republicans to never concede that they lost an election. you know, that they have -- that they -- they literally have their -- the last republican president who will not concede that he lost the election. and the overwhelming majority of republicans accepting that. and -- and -- and believing that joe biden is an illegitimate president. democracy can't work in those circumstances. >> so, jeff, how does this fever dream that the republicans seem to be in, how does it break? >> you know what? i don't know. and i don't know that it does break. you know, the -- the -- these states are going to conduct a midterm election in a year -- in a little more than a year. and we're going to see these changes in action and we're going to see whether and how they -- they change the vote-counting process to skew it in their favor. you know, there is no leadership in the republican party except for donald trump now. i mean, you know, at the moment, you know, it looked like after january 6th that mitch mcconnell, that kevin mccarthy, were going to start to speak out against him. but they -- they've retreated and trump is the republican party now. >> jeff toobin, kirsten powers. thank you, appreciate it. coming up next, new information in the killing of gabby petito and the disappearance of her fiance brian laundrie. and later, covid scare on the set of "the view." two co-hosts, sunny hostin and ana navarro ushered out as test results came in. as you will see, that's not even like half the story. ana navarro joins us ahead. ded y because you love the ocean- not spreadsheets. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire [ sneeze ] are you ok? 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>> reporter: anderson, we have been working actually a couple scenes tonight. bouncing back and forth between the two. first, here at the laundrie home just about an hour and a half ago, there were reports of shots fired. ten police cars came racing down this street. two officers went inside. they had gotten a call about shots fired from an unknown number. they came here, checked it out. no evidence of shots fired so all was well. earlier in the day, we were at the carlton reserve where they have been searching for days now for brian laundrie. the north port police say they are just as committed now. their drive is just as strong to find him as on day one. they have been searching the swamps, the woods, the marsh, very deep water in that area as well and they have all kinds of tools they are using. they're throwing everything at this. they are using swamp buggies, air boats, atvs, drones, they have officers on foot, as well. they will continue, anderson, to search through the weekend trying to find areas where they think he is more likely to be if he is there, anderson. >> and i understand, there's some new information from someone who was a friend of -- of gabby petito? >> reporter: that's right. cnn spoke with a woman named rose davis. she is a friend of gabby's and we wanted to know -- we had some questions for her about brian laundrie. and she told us this. she said that he is out there. this is regarding the search. if he is alive, he's out there camping out. she also said, quote, he is jealous at times. she said she had seen that when she was with the two of them. and she says he does not have friends, anderson. he reads books. >> i know you also spoke with another woman today who says that she had an encounter with brian laundrie in wyoming? >> reporter: correct. i spoke with a woman named norma jean, we spent some time on the phone. she said that she picked up brian laundrie in wyoming on august 29th. she said that he climbed into her passenger seat. they drove for a bit together. she was on her way home from church. she said there was a bible on the dashboard. it fell when she went to make a right turn. he touched it. she is offering it up to the fbi, of course, if they want to look at some fingerprints. she told me that he told her that he had been hiking for days along the snake river. he mentioned that he had a fiancee. he did not mention gabby petito, by name, she said but that he told her his fiancee was back in their van working on their travel blog that they were keeping. she also said that he asked her to drop him at the spread creek dispersed camping area. we know that is where gabby petito's remains were found. she said that she offered to drive him all the way in to where their van was. we've been there. that's about 2 1/2 miles in. she said that he said, no, no, no, just drop me here at the entrance which she did and went on her way. but what's key here is the timing of everything. this woman called the fbi and told -- after she had seen this other woman, miranda baker, who had done these tiktok videos saying that she, too, had picked up brian laundrie hitchhiking. miranda baker said she dropped him at the jackson lake dam on august 29th, the same day, around 6:09 p.m. this woman says she picked him up nearby that same area on that same day around 6:15 p.m. and dropped him at that dispersed camping area. so the puzzle pieces, anderson, do seem to be coming together. >> randi, appreciate it. let's get some perspective on all this. cnn senior law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe. former deputy director of the fbi joins us. so the fbi spending this amount of resources in the nature reserve and local authorities in hopes of finding brian laundrie. what does it tell that investigators might know or is it a sign of not knowing? >> you know, anderson, at this point i feel like it's a sign of not knowing. and by that i mean, they don't have many other really hot leads to follow. like, of course, the main lead which they received from the parents about a week ago was that he had left to go hiking in this area. of course, the car was found in that area which substantiates the lead. so that's what, you know, they continue to work on the information they have. it's a little bit confounding that they haven't developed additional information. there haven't been any other sightings that we are aware of, of laundrie in the area or in anyplace else since he's been home. so it's -- they're really focused it sounds like on the one thing they have. >> you heard from randi that according to a source, laundrie left home without either his phone or wallet and his parents were worried he might hurt himself. how much weight would investigators give to something like that in this sort of a manhunt? >> so, not having the cell phone with him is a big deal because it means one of the primary ways that you can track somebody electronically is not at play in this scenario. so that's frustrating to investigators. as far as not bringing his wallet, that's really up in the air. you can interpret that in different ways. it could be that he didn't want credit cards because he didn't want to be tracked through the use of those -- those -- you know, access to those funds. or it could be that he was going into the woods and he didn't really have a long time horizon of having to support himself on his own for a while. either because he maybe intended to take his own life or maybe he was actually going to go for a hike. it could go in either direction. >> i mean, in a case like this, how does law enforcement deal with the family of -- of laundrie? i mean, are they -- are they under suspicion? are they -- does it depend on how they respond, what information they give? >> it's incredibly sensitive, anderson. i can tell you, in -- across the range of my experience and similar manhunts, kind of kidnapping issues, things like that, you have to deal with the family in a very careful way. they can be an important source of information. they are, you know, they could -- you know, there is a certain amount of empathy that you need to bring to the table in dealing with the family. on the other hand, you have to really re-evaluate everything they tell you from multiple perspectives because there's always the possibility that they are actually aiding and abetting his efforts to avoid law enforcement and to avoid, you know, being taken into custody. so i can tell you that the fbi and local law enforcement are probably interacting with the family as often as they can to keep them talking, keep them engaged. but are also really re-evaluating everything they say with a fine-toothed comb to try to divine which direction they are actually leaning. >> it is so interesting how many people have become interested obviously in this case and how people are kind of coming forward, one hopes accurately. describing things that they say they saw. you know, that 911 recording popped up of somebody who called into police saying they saw laundrie hitting petito which then led ultimately to the moab police department pulling them over. >> yeah. so that tells us what we suspected from the beginning, right? laundrie is highly recognizable. people are seeing these stories. they are seeing the media around it. people who had chance encounters with him on august 29th or other times are calling in and relating their stories. so that's -- for me, that's what makes it particularly strange that we haven't had any such sightings or information like that, that we are aware of, since after he came home to florida. and that could indicate that he's actually deep in that reserve and is not being seen by folks. he's not being seen on the street or interacting or -- or -- you know, hitchhiking for rides and things like that. it could be that he is still in that forest. >> andrew mccabe, appreciate it. thank you. there is more breaking news. by now, you have likely seen the video. two co-hosts of "the view" told to leave the set on live tv just moments before interviewing vice president kamala harris because they were told they tested positive for code covid. there is an update. i will talk to one of them, ana navarro, next. tums vs. mozzarella stick when heartburn hits, fight back fast with tums chewy bites. fast heartburn relief in every bite. crunchy outside, chewy inside. ♪ tums, tums, tums, tums ♪ tums chewy bites as someone who resembles someone else... i appreciate that liberty mutual knows everyone's unique. that's why they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. 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>> i need the two of you to step off for a second. >> okay. >> ana and -- and -- and sunny have to leave. >> yes. >> shall i introduce the vice president? >> yes. >> okay. so, vice president -- >> no. >> no? >> no. >> okay. shall we dance? let's do a tap dance. >> ana navarro joins us now. so what happened? you have two negative tests now. how -- how are you feeling? and just, can you walk us through what happened? >> i'm feeling great. first thing i want to do, anderson, is say thank you to all the well-wishers. there's been so many people on social media wishing us well. and we're doing great. i also want to thank the vice president's office, kamala harris herself, her team, symone sanders, tina. i want to thank the secret service. they were all great and, you know, and -- and the team at "the view." it takes so much work to do an interview like this and it's something that we were excited about. we were prepared to ask some tough questions. we were very proud to have the vice president come on "the view." and then, all of a sudden, it turned into an episode of, like, "curb your enthusiasm." just surreal. >> how often are you tested for live tv? >> i'm tested weekly. >> okay. >> i'm tested every -- every -- every time -- you know, i co-host a couple of times -- couple of days a week and i usually get tested before i come into the building. >> so -- >> so we were all tested weekly. there is a lot of measures taken at "the view." there's -- you know, like in your show. there's limited staff on the -- on the floor. everybody's wearing masks, except for the people on camera. you know? >> i just want to watch this moment with you because it's -- it's just kind of -- it is -- there's something about it, kind of stunning to watch. let's just watch this. >> there seems to be something happening here that i'm not 100% aware of. can someone please apprise me of the situation? >> i need the two of you to step off for a second. >> okay. >> ana and -- and -- >> so at this point, you don't know anything is going on? >> no. we had -- we -- >> you can talk over this. yeah. what -- what -- what's going through your mind at this point? >> we had actually -- we had actually -- we had just been told. we learned about these positive covid tests which all indications are might be false positives. while we are sitting there on the air. now, because of covid, the -- the table at "the view" was like the size of an aircraft carrier. so joy is clear on the other side. i don't think she sees commotion of when sunny and i are told by the executive producer brian that this is happening and, of course, it's a very awkward moment. it's, you know, puzzling. >> oh, i see. so -- so you have been told before joy says the thing of like stuff is happening i don't know what it is and i would like to be apprised of it. that's my joy impression. you had already been told in your ears? or someone had whispered to you? >> we had just been told in our ears and we are, you know, we're like, what? what did you just say? did i just hear you right? >> right. >> and this is in the middle of live tv. >> sure. >> and as you know, anderson, the show must go on. and so, you know, we're -- we're trying -- >> so what happens to when you leave that stage? are you whisked -- is everyone like, okay, just go this way? or -- or what happens? >> well, we -- you know, were -- were -- were sent to the back. to the backstage. the vice president was in a separate room. we had had no contact with her during the entire day. >> right. >> and -- and so, they are trying to figure out what is the safe way to conduct this interview and how do we do this? and i've got to say, her team rolled with it. you know, it was crazy. she ended up doing the -- the -- the interview from that room via remote in her ears while we were locked up in our dressing rooms waiting for the test results that we took. so we took a rapid antigen test and we took a pcr. both have come back false positive for me. i can't speak for sunny. you know, it's her privacy. it's up to her to talk about her test results. >> right. >> and i am waiting for another one. >> okay. >> so that i can fly home to miami and maybe one day see my husband. >> all right. i wish you the best. i -- i -- i keep in touch. let me know. ana navarro, thank you so much. appreciate it. my best to sunny as well. coming up next, documentary filmmaker, ken burns, on his new pbs biography of muhammad ali which i am very excited about and his take on where we are right now in this threat to democracy. heyyy! 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>> yeah. i just think that we're -- hi, anderson -- we are at an intersection without any stoplights or stop signs and everything is coming at us. you know, there is a virus from one direction. covid. there's a virus of racial injustice and white supremacy that's 402 years old. there is an age-old human virus of lies and disinformation and conspiracy and paranoia. and all of those things are sort of hitting at the same moment. so it's -- it -- it makes this as fraught as it gets and because so much of the misinformation came from the previous occupant of the white house, there is a -- a much bigger ripple effect. it continues to go and you and i were speaking, of course, around the time of the insurrection about it. and i think that it's interesting that we're -- we're still arguing. nobody has come together. nobody's laid down their arms or said, you know, this didn't happen. >> and the other -- you know, the -- in the two-party system, the -- the one party has continued to just genuflect before this -- this false idol. you brought up a comment by -- by abraham lincoln who said, quote, all the armies of europe, asia, and africa could not by force take a drink from the ohio river or make a track on the blue ridge in the trial of a thousand years. no, if destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher as a nation of free men, we will live forever or die by suicide. wow. i mean, that sounds -- >> yeah. so, he -- yeah, i mean, he got it. he -- he understood it, you know, really well and, in fact, he would go on. he was a young lawyer then. not even 29 years old. he was speaking to a group of folks in springfield, illinois. and he'd go on to preside over the closest this country's ever come to national suicide, the civil war. but you also begin to realize the great protection that two oceans and two benign neighbors have afforded us since the british burned the white house in the war of 1812 is gone, you know, and there is nobody going to be landing in montauk to save us. nobody will be landing there. so we have to save ourselves and it is disappointing that all the great movements of our country's positive growth have come from both republicans and democrats working together. they are not agreeing completely but they are finding a middle ground. and when you have these splits the way we have now, it's incredibly dangerous. >> muhammad ali, the subject of your new film on pbs. what did his story tell us about america where we are right now? because the thing about muhammad ali. i am not a -- i'm not a sports person but i'm so fascinated by him. he was somebody who now everyone looks back and says, oh, my god, he was amazing. he was ridiculed. people wanted to destroy him. people hated him. he was a traitor. what does he say about us? >> well, you know, he intersects with all the great themes of the last half of the 20th century which are, of course, all the themes we're wrestling with. the role of sports in society, the role of black athletes, the definition of black masculinity and black manhood, the nature of the civil rights or the human justice movement. race. politics. war. sex. it's all there. and he's there. and his story comes down to a kind of a theme of freedom. it's really difficult for a black person in america to escape the specific gravity of the almost daily injustices that are visited. it's about courage, not just in the ring in this brutal and sometimes beautiful sport but refusing in the case of muhammad ali to accept -- accept induction into the united states army during the vietnam war. and it's about love. this man died the most beloved person on this planet, admired by billions with a "b." and so what we wanted to do, sarah burns, david mcmahon, my co-directors and i, was to tell the complete story of muhammad ali from his birth and boyhood in segregated jim crow louisville, kentucky, to his death from parkinson's just five years ago, anderson. and understand the ways in which his life speaks to us today. the courage that was involved. the freedom that it -- that it represents that we all want. and the love that we seem incapable of reminding ourselves ought to exist in order to even tackle these, you know, binary political problems that -- that seem so intractable. he understood something. something that speaks to us so well. >> you talk about somebody who stood up for beliefs, who was almost destroyed because of -- of his beliefs. >> yes. >> and -- and then, i mean, you know, i mean, then there is the whole, you know, the -- him and that whole -- i mean, it's just such an incredible, incredible story. >> so his fights are the collective works of william shakespeare. it's just so dramatic, each one, kinshasa. the first and second liston fights. the three frasier fights. the places when he lost, the places when he came back but he did lose 3 1/2 years at the height of his profession. but his fights before the draft thing consumed him are masterpieces. but he was willing, he said -- he's 22, to say i would stand before a machine gun rather than go against the teachings of my faith. he made a faith-based decision but as a black man in america in the mid-'60s or even now, that decision was seen as a middle finger to the united states. and it had to be taken care of. so he -- he was indicted. he was convicted. he was sentenced to the maximum. amazing. >> this is streaming right now? >> yeah, pbs.org/ali. any of the pbs platforms, also, you know, roku and amazon and -- >> i'm watching tonight. i am going to start it tonight. how many -- how many episodes? >> it's four episodes. eight hours. and i can't wait for you to see it because i didn't make it for people that were interested in boxing. i knew they'd come along. what i was interested in, this person who turns out to be one of the most significant americans who's ever lived. and so relevant today as we struggle with exactly what you asked at the beginning. >> i am going to binge tonight and all tomorrow. ken burns, thank you, can't wait. ahead, interest in the death of gabby petito has raised important questions. why don't other missing person cases involving black people and other minorities get more attention? those stories should be told. we will share some of them with you, next. i wonder how the firm's doing without its fearless leader. you sure you want to leave that all behind? yeah. stay restless with the rx. crafted by lexus. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. ♪ ♪ when technology is easier to use... ♪ barriers don't stand a chance. ♪ that's why we'll stop at nothing to deliver our technology as-a-service. ♪ new customers get our best deals on all smartphones. that's right. but what if i'm already a customer? 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