properly a little later. ukraine says a russian attack on a village in the east of the country has killed at least 50 people. that would make it the deadliest missile strike in months. officials said a cafe and a shop were hit in the village of hroza, not far from kupiansk. a six—year—old boy is said to be among the dead. there has been intense fighting in the region in recent weeks, with russia attempting to recapture territory it lost last year. this latest russian attack took place in the middle of the day, as european leaders were meeting in the spanish city of granada, with ukraine one of the big issues being discussed. president zelensky made a point of being at the talks in person. he asked european leaders for more air defence missiles and said other countries could thank ukraine for protecting them from russian aggression. we must not allow putin to destabilise any other parts of the world and our parties in order to ruin europe's power. we must continue to put pressure with sanctions politically and economically so that russia cannot spread chaos. the presence of russia, its military or proxies on the territory of any other country is a threat to all of us, i'm sure, and we must work together to push russia out of the territory of other countries. there is a political crisis in the us, and a rising tide on the right there of fatigue with the war. but a realisation in europe that it's hard to continue that struggle against the russian invasion without the americans involved. the european union's foreign affairs chief has warned that political infighting is threatening washington's ability to fund the ukrainian military. ukraine needs the support of the european union, which is sure that we have it and we will increase it, but also the support of the us. my hope, the hope of the ukrainians and i think that everybody that doesn't want putin winning this war is to look for the ways for the us to retake this issue and continue supporting ukraine. but the european commission president ursula von der leyen was more possitive. as ukraine needs predictability. and reliability in the direct budget support, as far as i oversee - the situation in the united states, i am very confident of support - for ukraine from the united states. what the united states - is working on is the timing. meanwhile, president vladimir putin claimed that russia did not start the 20—month—long war in ukraine and accused europe of trying to isolate moscow. translation: it's not us who shuts the door on joint communication. i it's europe that's fencing itself off from us and creating a new iron curtain. let's bring in our panelists. nathalie tocci, director for the institute of international affairs rome. miles taylor, formerly chief of staff at the us department of homeland security. hello to you both, great to see you. what do you make of the words we heard there from various european leaders about the support for ukraine? i leaders about the support for ukraine? ~ , leaders about the support for ukraine? ~' , , ., , ukraine? i think the big story reall is ukraine? i think the big story really is one _ ukraine? i think the big story really is one of— ukraine? i think the big story really is one of a _ ukraine? i think the big story really is one of a realisation l ukraine? i think the big story - really is one of a realisation both in fact_ really is one of a realisation both infect in— really is one of a realisation both in fact in europe and indeed within the biden— in fact in europe and indeed within the biden administration that this is a fairly— the biden administration that this is a fairly obvious thing but this is a fairly obvious thing but this is going — is a fairly obvious thing but this is going to _ is a fairly obvious thing but this is going to be a long war. so in a sense, _ is going to be a long war. so in a sense, and i_ is going to be a long war. so in a sense, and i think it sort of immersed really quite strikingly in the parallel reality that we heard from _ the parallel reality that we heard from vladimir putin's words that putin_ from vladimir putin's words that putin wiii— from vladimir putin's words that putin willjust go on. putin has one chance _ putin willjust go on. putin has one chance to — putin willjust go on. putin has one chance to reverse the situation on the ground, — chance to reverse the situation on the ground, and that is of course of fatigue _ the ground, and that is of course of fatigue in_ the ground, and that is of course of fatigue in the west and especially where _ fatigue in the west and especially where there is fatigue to the reaching _ where there is fatigue to the reaching of its climax with a return of donald — reaching of its climax with a return of donald trump to the white house. so of donald trump to the white house. 50 there _ of donald trump to the white house. 50 there is— of donald trump to the white house. 50 there is a — of donald trump to the white house. so there is a realisation that we are in_ so there is a realisation that we are in this — so there is a realisation that we are in this for the long haul because _ are in this for the long haul because putin will not stop the war. some _ because putin will not stop the war. some of— because putin will not stop the war. some of it _ because putin will not stop the war. some of it the question is are we equipping — some of it the question is are we equipping ourselves to be prepared for that— equipping ourselves to be prepared for that long war? are our defence industries — for that long war? are our defence industries equipping themselves to be in this— industries equipping themselves to be in this for the long haul? are our economies, is our public opinion? _ our economies, is our public opinion? so i think as perhaps a few months _ opinion? so i think as perhaps a few months ago — opinion? so i think as perhaps a few months ago there was this idea perhaps. — months ago there was this idea perhaps, this illusion that come the end of— perhaps, this illusion that come the end of the _ perhaps, this illusion that come the end of the year after one or two ukrainian — end of the year after one or two ukrainian counter offensives this would _ ukrainian counter offensives this would have eventually not necessarily settled itself into a cease—fire or a peace agreement, but the level_ cease—fire or a peace agreement, but the level of— cease—fire or a peace agreement, but the level of violence would have gone _ the level of violence would have gone down. i think we now understand that this _ gone down. i think we now understand that this is _ gone down. i think we now understand that this is not going to happen, and hence — that this is not going to happen, and hence a degree of anxiety also of course _ and hence a degree of anxiety also of course as— and hence a degree of anxiety also of course as this comes alongside obviously— of course as this comes alongside obviously what's happening in united states. _ obviously what's happening in united states. a _ obviously what's happening in united states, a string of elections happening in europe and hence the idea of— happening in europe and hence the idea of saying are we actually prepared to be in this for the long haul? _ prepared to be in this for the long haul? �* , ., ., ,, prepared to be in this for the long haul? �*, ., ., ,, ~ , haul? let's go to the us. miles, ureat haul? let's go to the us. miles, treat to haul? let's go to the us. miles, great to see _ haul? let's go to the us. miles, great to see you. _ haul? let's go to the us. miles, great to see you. this _ haul? let's go to the us. miles, i great to see you. this commitment haul? let's go to the us. miles, - great to see you. this commitment to funding the war in ukraine, is it seriously endanger there? yeah, it actually is- — seriously endanger there? yeah, it actually is. and _ seriously endanger there? yeah, it actually is. and i _ seriously endanger there? yeah, it actually is. and i got _ seriously endanger there? yeah, it actually is. and i got to _ seriously endanger there? yeah, it actually is. and i got to agree - seriously endanger there? yeah, it actually is. and i got to agree with | actually is. and i got to agree with the frarnihg — actually is. and i got to agree with the frarnihg of— actually is. and i got to agree with the framing of the _ actually is. and i got to agree with the framing of the big _ actually is. and i got to agree with the framing of the big question . the framing of the big question being _ the framing of the big question being our— the framing of the big question being our countries— the framing of the big question being our countries prepared . the framing of the big questionl being our countries prepared for the framing of the big question - being our countries prepared for the lon- being our countries prepared for the long haul— being our countries prepared for the long haul and — being our countries prepared for the long haul and is— being our countries prepared for the long haul and is ukraine _ being our countries prepared for the long haul and is ukraine prepared i long haul and is ukraine prepared for the _ long haul and is ukraine prepared for the long — long haul and is ukraine prepared for the long haul? _ long haul and is ukraine prepared for the long haul? and _ long haul and is ukraine prepared for the long haul? and the thing. long haul and is ukraine prepared . for the long haul? and the thing we don't _ for the long haul? and the thing we don't have — for the long haul? and the thing we don't have an — for the long haul? and the thing we don't have an answer— for the long haul? and the thing we don't have an answer to _ for the long haul? and the thing we don't have an answer to is- for the long haul? and the thing we don't have an answer to is one - don't have an answer to is one of the united — don't have an answer to is one of the united states— don't have an answer to is one of the united states is— don't have an answer to is one of the united states is prepared - don't have an answer to is one of the united states is prepared for| the united states is prepared for the united states is prepared for the long — the united states is prepared for the long haul _ the united states is prepared for the long haul. now— the united states is prepared for the long haul. now we _ the united states is prepared for the long haul. now we saw- the united states is prepared for- the long haul. now we saw european leaders _ the long haul. now we saw european leaders this — the long haul. now we saw european leaders this week _ the long haul. now we saw european leaders this week expressed - the long haul. now we saw european| leaders this week expressed cautious optimism _ leaders this week expressed cautious optimism that — leaders this week expressed cautious optimism that the _ leaders this week expressed cautious optimism that the united _ leaders this week expressed cautious optimism that the united states - leaders this week expressed cautious optimism that the united states is. optimism that the united states is in it, _ optimism that the united states is in it. lrut— optimism that the united states is in it. but i— optimism that the united states is in it, but i don't— optimism that the united states is in it, but i don't think— optimism that the united states is in it, but i don't think we - optimism that the united states is in it, but i don't think we have - optimism that the united states is in it, but i don't think we have anl in it, but i don't think we have an answer to— in it, but i don't think we have an answer to that _ in it, but i don't think we have an answer to that question, - in it, but i don't think we have an i answer to that question, especially given— answer to that question, especially given how— answer to that question, especially given how tumultuous _ answer to that question, especially given how tumultuous the - answer to that question, especially given how tumultuous the political| given how tumultuous the political environment — given how tumultuous the political environment is _ given how tumultuous the political environment is in _ given how tumultuous the political environment is in the _ given how tumultuous the political environment is in the us— given how tumultuous the political environment is in the us house i environment is in the us house representatives, _ environment is in the us house representatives, upon - environment is in the us house representatives, upon which i environment is in the us housel representatives, upon which any further— representatives, upon which any furtherfunding_ representatives, upon which any further funding for— representatives, upon which any further funding for ukraine - representatives, upon which any - further funding for ukraine depends. and you _ further funding for ukraine depends. and you actually _ further funding for ukraine depends. and you actually see _ further funding for ukraine depends. and you actually see some _ and you actually see some indications _ and you actually see some indications of— and you actually see some indications of how- and you actually see some l indications of how concerned and you actually see some - indications of how concerned the biden— indications of how concerned the biden administration— indications of how concerned the biden administration is - indications of how concerned the biden administration is getting l biden administration is getting about— biden administration is getting about this _ biden administration is getting about this because _ biden administration is getting about this because they - biden administration is getting about this because they are . biden administration is getting - about this because they are looking into ways _ about this because they are looking into ways that — about this because they are looking into ways that they _ about this because they are looking into ways that they can _ about this because they are looking into ways that they can support - into ways that they can support ukraine — into ways that they can support ukraine if— into ways that they can support ukraine if congress _ into ways that they can support ukraine if congress does - into ways that they can support ukraine if congress does not i ukraine if congress does not continue _ ukraine if congress does not continue to— ukraine if congress does not continue to provide - ukraine if congress does not continue to provide the - ukraine if congress does not - continue to provide the necessary funding — continue to provide the necessary funding ahd— continue to provide the necessary funding. and the _ continue to provide the necessary funding. and the fact _ continue to provide the necessary funding. and the fact that - continue to provide the necessary funding. and the fact that right. continue to provide the necessary. funding. and the fact that right now you've _ funding. and the fact that right now you've got — funding. and the fact that right now you've got conservative _ funding. and the fact that right now you've got conservative leaders - you've got conservative leaders competing _ you've got conservative leaders competing against _ you've got conservative leaders competing against each - you've got conservative leaders competing against each other. you've got conservative leaders| competing against each other in you've got conservative leaders - competing against each other in the house _ competing against each other in the house is _ competing against each other in the house is not — competing against each other in the house is not a — competing against each other in the house is not a good _ competing against each other in the house is not a good signal- competing against each other in the house is not a good signal becausel competing against each other in the| house is not a good signal because i suspect— house is not a good signal because i suspect they — house is not a good signal because i suspect they will _ house is not a good signal because i suspect they will be falling - house is not a good signal because i suspect they will be falling all - suspect they will be falling all over— suspect they will be falling all over each— suspect they will be falling all over each other— suspect they will be falling all over each other to— suspect they will be falling all over each other to say- suspect they will be falling all over each other to say that i over each other to say that they're going _ over each other to say that they're going to _ over each other to say that they're going to give — over each other to say that they're going to give the _ over each other to say that they're going to give the biden— going to give the biden administration - going to give the biden administration a - going to give the bideni administration a harder going to give the biden- administration a harder and going to give the biden— administration a harder and harder time on _ administration a harder and harder time on ukraine, _ administration a harder and harder time on ukraine, which— administration a harder and harder time on ukraine, which means - administration a harder and harder time on ukraine, which means it'sl time on ukraine, which means it's going _ time on ukraine, which means it's going to _ time on ukraine, which means it's going to be — time on ukraine, which means it's going to be harder— time on ukraine, which means it's going to be harder and _ time on ukraine, which means it's going to be harderand harder- time on ukraine, which means it's going to be harder and harder to. time on ukraine, which means it's. going to be harder and harder to be ekact— going to be harder and harder to be exact funds out _ going to be harder and harder to be exact funds out of _ going to be harder and harder to be exact funds out of the _ going to be harder and harder to be exact funds out of the us _ going to be harder and harder to be exact funds out of the us congressl exact funds out of the us congress on this— exact funds out of the us congress on this issue — exact funds out of the us congress on this issue. so _ exact funds out of the us congress on this issue. so i— exact funds out of the us congress on this issue. so i think— exact funds out of the us congress on this issue. so i think we - exact funds out of the us congress on this issue. so i think we are - exact funds out of the us congress on this issue. so i think we are in. on this issue. so i think we are in a very— on this issue. so i think we are in a very alarming _ on this issue. so i think we are in a very alarming moment - on this issue. so i think we are in a very alarming moment for- a very alarming moment for ukrainians— a very alarming moment for ukrainians because - a very alarming moment for ukrainians because us- a very alarming moment for. ukrainians because us support a very alarming moment for- ukrainians because us support is uncertain, — ukrainians because us support is uncertain, certainly— ukrainians because us support is uncertain, certainly not - ukrainians because us support is uncertain, certainly not from - ukrainians because us support is uncertain, certainly not from the| uncertain, certainly not from the white _ uncertain, certainly not from the white house _ uncertain, certainly not from the white house but _ uncertain, certainly not from the white house but from _ uncertain, certainly not from the white house but from the - uncertain, certainly not from the white house but from the us- white house but from the us congress. _ white house but from the us congress, which _ white house but from the us congress, which holds - white house but from the us congress, which holds the i white house but from the us. congress, which holds the purse strings— congress, which holds the purse strings of— congress, which holds the purse strings of america's _ congress, which holds the purse strings of america's federal - congress, which holds the purse - strings of america's federal budget. thank— strings of america's federal budget. thank you _ strings of america's federal budget. thank you both _ strings of america's federal budget. thank you both so _ strings of america's federal budget. thank you both so much _ strings of america's federal budget. thank you both so much for - strings of america's federal budget. thank you both so much for that. i thank you both so much for that. back with un just a moment. many countries at that summit in granada are also wanting to talk about the issue of migration. spain's prime minister, pedro sanchez, says his country cannot cope with irregular immigration without help from the european union. the bloc is seeking a deal on handling new arrivals, less than a year before continent—wide elections. sea arrivals to spain from senegal and other african countries increased by a fifth so far this year compared with last year, with more than 3500 reaching the canary islands last month because of milder weather and calmer seas, according to official statistics. translation: what cannot happen is that there are certain _ zones in our country — such as southern spain, the canary islands or balearic islands — to face and assume all this irregular migration phenomenon without the solidarity of the rest of european countries. so i think we have reached a balance point that is good for spain. uk's rishi sunak and italy's giorgia meloni have been pushing to get the issue of illegal migration to the top of the aganda. they met on the sidelines of the gathering. here's what the italian prime minister had to say. translation: i believe we are far | from isolated in this negotiation. | europe's perception and intentions on migration are evolving towards a more pragmatic line of legality, which wants to fight traffickers, stop illegal immigration and manage migration. let's bring in our panel again because this is a huge issue in europe and the us. we will start with europe. what do you make of the attempts here to try and come to some kind of deal? i’m attempts here to try and come to some kind of deal?— attempts here to try and come to some kind of deal? i'm not sure this translates well _ some kind of deal? i'm not sure this translates well into _ some kind of deal? i'm not sure this translates well into english, - some kind of deal? i'm not sure this translates well into english, but - translates well into english, but this is— translates well into english, but this is a — translates well into english, but this is a story— translates well into english, but this is a story of _ translates well into english, but this is a story of the _ translates well into english, but this is a story of the mountain l translates well into english, but i this is a story of the mountain that delivers _ this is a story of the mountain that delivers a — this is a story of the mountain that delivers a little _ this is a story of the mountain that delivers a little mouse, _ this is a story of the mountain that delivers a little mouse, frankly- delivers a little mouse, frankly speaking _ delivers a little mouse, frankly speaking i_ delivers a little mouse, frankly speaking. i know— delivers a little mouse, frankly speaking. i know it's— delivers a little mouse, frankly speaking. i know it's an - delivers a little mouse, frankly speaking. i know it's an italian| speaking. i know it's an italian foundation, _ speaking. i know it's an italian foundation, but _ speaking. i know it's an italian foundation, but essentially- speaking. i know it's an italiani foundation, but essentially this speaking. i know it's an italian i foundation, but essentially this is obviously— foundation, but essentially this is obviously a — foundation, but essentially this is obviously a big _ foundation, but essentially this is obviously a big phenomenon, - foundation, but essentially this is i obviously a big phenomenon, right? and the _ obviously a big phenomenon, right? and the deal— obviously a big phenomenon, right? and the deal that _ obviously a big phenomenon, right? and the deal that we _ obviously a big phenomenon, right? and the deal that we have _ obviously a big phenomenon, right? and the deal that we have seen- and the deal that we have seen emerging — and the deal that we have seen emerging after— and the deal that we have seen emerging after it— and the deal that we have seen emerging after it many, - and the deal that we have seen emerging after it many, many. and the deal that we have seen- emerging after it many, many months of negotiations — emerging after it many, many months of negotiations essentially _ emerging after it many, many months of negotiations essentially sees - emerging after it many, many months of negotiations essentially sees on - of negotiations essentially sees on the one _ of negotiations essentially sees on the one hand — of negotiations essentially sees on the one hand greater— of negotiations essentially sees on| the one hand greater responsibility on countries — the one hand greater responsibility on countries of _ the one hand greater responsibility on countries of first _ the one hand greater responsibility on countries of first arrival- the one hand greater responsibility on countries of first arrival such - on countries of first arrival such as my— on countries of first arrival such as my own— on countries of first arrival such as my own italy— on countries of first arrival such as my own italy or— on countries of first arrival such as my own italy or spain, - on countries of first arrival such as my own italy or spain, but. as my own italy or spain, but especially— as my own italy or spain, but especially italy— as my own italy or spain, but especially italy at _ as my own italy or spain, but especially italy at this - as my own italy or spain, but especially italy at this point i as my own italy or spain, buti especially italy at this point in time — especially italy at this point in time given— especially italy at this point in time given that _ especially italy at this point in time given that the _ especially italy at this point in time given that the main - especially italy at this point in - time given that the main increase in flows _ time given that the main increase in flows is _ time given that the main increase in flows is actually _ time given that the main increase in flows is actually coming _ time given that the main increase in flows is actually coming from - flows is actually coming from tunisia — flows is actually coming from tunisia and _ flows is actually coming from tunisia and especially- flows is actually coming from tunisia and especially libya l flows is actually coming from i tunisia and especially libya as well — tunisia and especially libya as well so— tunisia and especially libya as well so on— tunisia and especially libya as well. so on the _ tunisia and especially libya as well. so on the one _ tunisia and especially libya as well. so on the one hand, - tunisia and especially libya as. well. so on the one hand, great responsihility_ well. so on the one hand, great responsibility for— well. so on the one hand, great responsibility for the _ well. so on the one hand, greati responsibility for the processing and the — responsibility for the processing and the speeding _ responsibility for the processing and the speeding up _ responsibility for the processing and the speeding up of- responsibility for the processing and the speeding up of the - and the speeding up of the processing _ and the speeding up of the processing of— and the speeding up of the processing of asylum - and the speeding up of the - processing of asylum applications serving _ processing of asylum applications serving to— processing of asylum applications serving to avoid _ processing of asylum applications serving to avoid so—called - processing of asylum applications i serving to avoid so—called secondary movements. — serving to avoid so—called secondary movements. ie _ serving to avoid so—called secondary movements, ie the _ serving to avoid so—called secondary movements, ie the fact— serving to avoid so—called secondary movements, ie the fact that - serving to avoid so—called secondaryl movements, ie the fact that migrants arrive _ movements, ie the fact that migrants arrive in_ movements, ie the fact that migrants arrive in a _ movements, ie the fact that migrants arrive in a first — movements, ie the fact that migrants arrive in a first country, _ movements, ie the fact that migrants arrive in a first country, ie _ movements, ie the fact that migrants arrive in a first country, ie italy, - arrive in a first country, ie italy, and _ arrive in a first country, ie italy, and in _ arrive in a first country, ie italy, and in before _ arrive in a first country, ie italy, and in before their— arrive in a first country, ie italy, and in before their application l arrive in a first country, ie italy, | and in before their application is processed, _ and in before their application is processed, they— and in before their application is processed, they sort _ and in before their application is processed, they sort of - and in before their application is processed, they sort of forget . and in before their application is l processed, they sort of forget and move _ processed, they sort of forget and move into — processed, they sort of forget and move into other— processed, they sort of forget and move into other countries - processed, they sort of forget and move into other countries like - processed, they sort of forget and move into other countries like for| move into other countries like for exampte — move into other countries like for example germany. _ move into other countries like for example germany. so _ move into other countries like for example germany. so a - move into other countries like for example germany. so a greater. example germany. so a greater responsibility— example germany. so a greater responsibility uncovers - example germany. so a greater responsibility uncovers a - example germany. so a greater responsibility uncovers a first. responsibility uncovers a first arrival. — responsibility uncovers a first arrival. and _ responsibility uncovers a first arrival, and then— responsibility uncovers a first arrival, and then for- responsibility uncovers a first arrival, and then for all- responsibility uncovers a first arrival, and then for all the l responsibility uncovers a first . arrival, and then for all the talk of solidarity, _ arrival, and then for all the talk of solidarity, where _ arrival, and then for all the talk of solidarity, where solidarity . arrival, and then for all the talk| of solidarity, where solidarity in principle — of solidarity, where solidarity in principle means _ of solidarity, where solidarity in principle means a _ of solidarity, where solidarity in principle means a relocation - of solidarity, where solidarity in principle means a relocation ofl principle means a relocation of migrants — principle means a relocation of migrants so _ principle means a relocation of migrants so as— principle means a relocation of migrants so as to _ principle means a relocation of migrants so as to have - principle means a relocation of migrants so as to have a - principle means a relocation of migrants so as to have a fairer| migrants so as to have a fairer distribution— migrants so as to have a fairer distribution basically— migrants so as to have a fairer distribution basically of- migrants so as to have a fairer. distribution basically of migrants and asylum—seekers— distribution basically of migrants and asylum—seekers across - distribution basically of migrants and asylum—seekers across the i distribution basically of migrants i and asylum—seekers across the eu, yes, indeed, — and asylum—seekers across the eu, yes, indeed, there _ and asylum—seekers across the eu, yes, indeed, there is— and asylum—seekers across the eu, yes, indeed, there is decided - and asylum—seekers across the eu, yes, indeed, there is decided that. yes, indeed, there is decided that now solidarity _ yes, indeed, there is decided that now solidarity has _ yes, indeed, there is decided that now solidarity has to _ yes, indeed, there is decided that now solidarity has to be _ yes, indeed, there is decided that| now solidarity has to be obligatory on the _ now solidarity has to be obligatory on the one — now solidarity has to be obligatory on the one hand _ now solidarity has to be obligatory on the one hand and _ now solidarity has to be obligatory on the one hand and yet _ now solidarity has to be obligatory on the one hand and yet flexible . now solidarity has to be obligatoryi on the one hand and yet flexible as well, _ on the one hand and yet flexible as well, right? — on the one hand and yet flexible as well, right? which— on the one hand and yet flexible as well, right? which kind _ on the one hand and yet flexible as well, right? which kind of- on the one hand and yet flexible as well, right? which kind of really. well, right? which kind of really does _ well, right? which kind of really does strike _ well, right? which kind of really does strike as _ well, right? which kind of really does strike as a _ well, right? which kind of really does strike as a sort _ well, right? which kind of really does strike as a sort of - well, right? which kind of really does strike as a sort of traditioni does strike as a sort of tradition in terms — does strike as a sort of tradition in terms now— does strike as a sort of tradition in terms. now all _ does strike as a sort of tradition in terms. now all this _ does strike as a sort of tradition in terms. now all this to - does strike as a sort of tradition in terms. now all this to say - does strike as a sort of traditionl in terms. now all this to say that as nothing — in terms. now all this to say that. as nothing fundamental has actually changed _ as nothing fundamental has actually changed within _ as nothing fundamental has actually changed within the _ as nothing fundamental has actually changed within the eu, _ as nothing fundamental has actually changed within the eu, what- as nothing fundamental has actually changed within the eu, what has. changed within the eu, what has and is fundamentally— changed within the eu, what has and is fundamentally changing _ changed within the eu, what has and is fundamentally changing is - changed within the eu, what has and is fundamentally changing is what i changed within the eu, what has and is fundamentally changing is what isl is fundamentally changing is what is happening _ is fundamentally changing is what is happening outside _ is fundamentally changing is what is happening outside the _ is fundamentally changing is what is happening outside the eu. - is fundamentally changing is what is happening outside the eu. where i happening outside the eu. where basically— happening outside the eu. where basically you _ happening outside the eu. where basically you have _ happening outside the eu. where basically you have a _ happening outside the eu. where basically you have a sort - happening outside the eu. where basically you have a sort of - basically you have a sort of cocktail _ basically you have a sort of cocktail of _ basically you have a sort of cocktail of repression - basically you have a sort of cocktail of repression in . basically you have a sort of - cocktail of repression in tunisia, repression — cocktail of repression in tunisia, repression and _ cocktail of repression in tunisia, repression and racism _ cocktail of repression in tunisia, repression and racism in - cocktail of repression in tunisia, repression and racism in tunisia| repression and racism in tunisia which _ repression and racism in tunisia which is — repression and racism in tunisia which is one _ repression and racism in tunisia which is one of— repression and racism in tunisia which is one of the _ repression and racism in tunisia which is one of the reasons - repression and racism in tunisia - which is one of the reasons why the leader— which is one of the reasons why the leader there — which is one of the reasons why the leader there is _ which is one of the reasons why the leader there is pushing _ which is one of the reasons why the leader there is pushing migrants. which is one of the reasons why the leader there is pushing migrants up into europe — leader there is pushing migrants up into europe you _ leader there is pushing migrants up into europe. you have _ leader there is pushing migrants up into europe. you have of— leader there is pushing migrants up into europe. you have of course - into europe. you have of course ongoing — into europe. you have of course ongoing conflict _ into europe. you have of course ongoing conflict in— into europe. you have of course ongoing conflict in libya. - into europe. you have of 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by. we will look at the issue in the us with miles injust a of new standby and we will come back to you both for that in just a second. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. prosecutors have concluded there is "no realistic prospect of conviction" for 21 people arrested on the day of the king's coronation to prevent a breach of the peace. the metropolitan police say they will face no further action. the force said in may that 52 arrests were made for a range of reasons, and has since expressed "regret" over the arrests. a man who took a crossbow to windsor castle on christmas day in 2021 to "kill" queen elizabeth ii has been given a nine—year prison sentence. jaswant singh chail will be kept in broadmoor high—security psychiatric hospital, before moving to prison. he's the first person in the uk to be convicted of treason since 1981 after pleading guilty in february. voters are heading to the polls in scotland's first recall by—election. the ballot in rutherglen and hamilton west was triggered when constituents voted to remove former snp mp margaret ferrier. you're live with bbc news. thanks very much for your company. next we will head to the us— mexico border. mexico's president has criticised the decision to build new sections of wall at the us border. president biden approved the construction of a section of border wall, in southern texas, in an effort to stop illegal immigration. around 32 kilometres will be built in starr county, which is on the border with mexico. there have been more than 245,000 crossings in the area this year. but the move is a major u—turn by president biden, who'd criticised his predecessor for his wall policy. donald trump posted that he will awaitjoe biden's apology. the timing is not ideal. it comes as top white house officials are in mexico, as the two neighbours attempt to ease tensions at the border. the secretary of state, antony blinken, and the attorney general, merrick garland, were hoping to tackle the issues of drug trafficking and illegal migration. but instead, the mexican leader is not happy. andres manuel lopez obrador told reporters he believed the white house had come under pressure from extreme right—wing groups. translation: i'm going to talk i about a proposal that was released yesterday to allow the construction of a wall on the border, which is contrary to what president biden has said. authorising the construction of a wall is a setback. it does not solve the problem. the us secretary of state attempted to get things back on track, speaking about what the two nations had in common. we're proceeding based on a sense of shared responsibility, cooperation, collaboration, mutual respect. this framework reflects our nations' shared interests and shared responsibility in addressing crime, violence, trafficking. it also underscores a shared understanding that we have that while policing and border enforcement are absolutely critical tools, they alone cannot address the complex drivers of our security challenges. we are waiting to hear from antony blinken again with a podium and let turns ready awaiting a press conference about what those high—level discussions have been about if they come to any concrete conclusions so we are keeping across that for you. so why has the construction of this section of border wall been approved now? the bbc�*s meghan owen explains more. now, here we can see the current barrier between the us and mexico. and here, if we zoom in, we can see biden's new proposal. it's a 20—mile stretch of wall in southern texas, and this completely contradicts what he said in 2020 when he was running for election. there will not be another foot of wall constructed on my administration, number one. well, us customs and border protection are defending the move, saying they're only using funds that were already allocated in 2019 to help with the construction of the border barrier. so what is behind joe biden's decision? well, he's been grappling a rise in illegal migrant crossings in the us. in fact, this year alone, we saw 245,000 crossings in the rio grande valley. that's the area where he wants to build this new section of the wall. mexico's president also said that in the last week alone, there were 10,000 border arrivals every day, and september is expected to break records. now, this is putting a huge strain on us cities. new york declared a state of emergency last year because of an influx of migrants. here are some workers building temporary accommodation to house those asylum—seekers. in fact, the city's mayor believes they could be spending $12 billion over the next three years. so presidentjoe biden is facing difficult politics. now, here is leslie vinjamuri from chatham house. we've seen the recent politics in the house, where any number of issues are coming up and certainly border security has been a long—standing one. it's now because of that pressure to keep the government funded. building a border wall was one of trump's signature policies, but for biden's administration, well, this move is a realfirst. let's bring our panel back in. nathalie tocci, director for the institute of international affairs rome. miles taylor, formerly chief of staff at the us department of homeland security. miles, to you on the wall first. surprising or not? i miles, to you on the wall first. surprising or not?— surprising or not? i don't think it's surprising _ surprising or not? i don't think it's surprising at _ surprising or not? i don't think it's surprising at all. _ surprising or not? i don't think it's surprising at all. i - surprising or not? i don't think it's surprising at all. i think- surprising or not? i don't think i it's surprising at all. i think what is lost in this conversation is that with government appropriations timelines and contracting timelines, when these things happen, they don't happen because the president went to sleep one night and woke up is that i want to build more border wall. they happen because of multi—year planning about how to increase security in various sectors, but here is the important thing to note. there is a crisis at that us southern border, and joe biden has realised more and more during his administration that it is a crisis. in fact, millions of people have come in, almost close to two mean people in the past year illegally through that us southern border. compare that to 1 million... miles, i'm compare that to 1 million... miles, i'm afraid--- _ compare that to 1 million... miles, i'm afraid... we _ compare that to 1 million... miles, i'm afraid... we are _ compare that to 1 million... miles, i'm afraid... we are just _ compare that to 1 million... miles, i'm afraid... we are just losing - i'm afraid... we arejust losing you. we will try to reestablish that line, i think. you. we will try to reestablish that line, ithink. some you. we will try to reestablish that line, i think. some of the numbers there that he was talking about. it does underline the scale of what is going on. it does underline the scale of what is auoin on. , does underline the scale of what is aoian on. , going on. it underlines the scale that is going _ going on. it underlines the scale that is going on _ going on. it underlines the scale that is going on and _ going on. it underlines the scale that is going on and it _ going on. it underlines the scale that is going on and it underlies| that is going on and it underlies the fact— that is going on and it underlies the fact that precisely because of that scale, this is not something that scale, this is not something that can — that scale, this is not something that can be resolved through sort of, that can be resolved through sort of. you _ that can be resolved through sort of, you know, magic wand solutions, right? _ of, you know, magic wand solutions, right? and _ of, you know, magic wand solutions, right? and so in a sense, it's a kind of— right? and so in a sense, it's a kind of similarand right? and so in a sense, it's a kind of similar and very different situation — kind of similar and very different situation in europe. in europe, basically— situation in europe. in europe, basically what we have seen from last year — basically what we have seen from last year to this year is essentially a doubling of numbers, and there — essentially a doubling of numbers, and there are people sort of thinking _ and there are people sort of thinking about naval blockades in the mediterranean. and yet, you know _ the mediterranean. and yet, you know. is— the mediterranean. and yet, you know, is the solution like a wall something _ know, is the solution like a wall something which is going to fix this? _ something which is going to fix this? especially the contrast between on the one hand measures like building walls which obviously have a _ like building walls which obviously have a very emotional in a sense appeal— have a very emotional in a sense appeal and — have a very emotional in a sense appeal and give you the impression that this _ appeal and give you the impression that this is — appeal and give you the impression that this is a solution as opposed to, you _ that this is a solution as opposed to, you know, the antony blinken visit to— to, you know, the antony blinken visit to mexico trying to address this issue — visit to mexico trying to address this issue through building a relationship and a partnership with mexico _ relationship and a partnership with mexico. and by the way this is something that the us can do because on the _ something that the us can do because on the other side of the border there _ on the other side of the border there is— on the other side of the border there is a — on the other side of the border there is a democratic country like mexico _ there is a democratic country like mexico that difficult as it is is possible _ mexico that difficult as it is is possible to actually partner with. a totally _ possible to actually partner with. a totally different situation again in this respect in europe, where on the other— this respect in europe, where on the other hand _ this respect in europe, where on the other hand you basically have a mix of failed, _ other hand you basically have a mix of failed, failing and repressive states— of failed, failing and repressive states basically. let of failed, failing and repressive states basically.— of failed, failing and repressive states basically. let me bring him back in on it _ states basically. let me bring him back in on it that _ states basically. let me bring him back in on it that point _ states basically. let me bring him back in on it that point because i back in on it that point because thatis back in on it that point because that is an interesting potential point of difference. let's come back to human could you just tell us again those numbers that you were just outlining when we lost you. in the past year, about to meet people enter the us illegally across the southern border compared to about1 million that came into the us legally and got green cards. that's a little bit of an overdose visible vacation, but right now you have politicians in washington single people coming through the back door of the us in the front door, and that's unfair to people who wait years in some cases to get to come to the us. a lot of republicans think that the by the administration has not been treating it like a crisis, which it is, but is also important to consider thatjoe biden's likely opponent in the election is talking about vastly more extreme measures in a waffles of donald trump is now repeatedly talked about sending missiles into mexico, into the nation of a democratic ally because of the crisis. so i think mexicans and government officials need to be more worried about that than they do the by the administration setting up additional barriers at the southern border which had been in development for a number of years. there is potentially much more serious repercussions in the us when it comes to our domestic politics and what could happen if the trauma administration comes back in office. interesting. wall aside then, what are the other potential concrete things that they'll be working on between the two countries? i think she as always _ between the two countries? i think she as always hit _ between the two countries? i think she as always hit the _ between the two countries? i think she as always hit the nail- between the two countries? i think she as always hit the nail on - between the two countries? i think she as always hit the nail on the i she as always hit the nail on the head, which is going to the root causes of migration is ultimately where this issue gets resolved. and what you are seen primarily is economic migrants coming to the us. now under us law, you are allowed to come and reside here if you are fleeing violence and persecution. it's called claiming asylum, but ultimately the us courts find of the vast majority of these individuals are not actually flee lyrical violence from their governments. they are fleeing very poor economic circumstances so the more that the us and the western world can invest in those democracies, in those countries and to stabilise them, the likelier it is to get those root causes. that's what antony blinken is primarily there to talk about, and at the end of the day, that's really what is going to alleviate the crisis and we see that in other places around the world, including of course in britain where you end “p of course in britain where you end up having to think about north africa and the middle east and what economic conditions are like to stand migration from those locations. stand migration from those locations-— stand migration from those locations. , ., locations. 0k, interesting, our ranel locations. 0k, interesting, our panel there. — locations. ok, interesting, our panel there, former— locations. 0k, interesting, our panel there, former chief - locations. 0k, interesting, our panel there, former chief of i locations. 0k, interesting, our i panel there, former chief of staff at the development of home and security in the us and half the job is done they'll be back with us for the next half hour. i want to mark your card as we have this life eating we are expecting to hear from antony blinken, us secretary of state, coming up. and also the mexican counterpart there as well. talking about we are assuming what miles was talking about there, try to tackle some of those underlying longer—term potential measures to try and get a grip of that issue. do stay with us. this bbc news. hello. much of europe is seeing some significant october heat at the moment, and the uk no exception. things are going to be warming up over the next few days. now, it was a bit of a mixed picture on thursday. here was some sunshine in cornwall, but further north, many of us had more cloud and outbreaks of rain. so keswick, in cumbria, a fairly drizzly story a little bit earlier on on thursday. now, the next few days, then, yes, some rain around, mainly towards the north, but i think we're all going to notice that the temperatures will be gradually rising, especially through the course of the weekend. now, for the rest of thursday evening and overnight, we've got some wet weather through parts of wales, the midlands. later in the night, more rain into parts of northern ireland and southern scotland, as well. either side of that, some clearer, drier weather, and it's going to be a mild night, much milder than last night across scotland. lows between about 10—15 degrees to start your friday. that's more typical of daytime temperatures this time of year. now, through the day on friday, then, some more wet weather for northern ireland initially, southern scotland, parts of northern england as well. further south across england and for much of wales, a predominantly dry day. some mist and some low cloud, particularly around coasts and hills towards the west. sunny spells, but cooler conditions across the north of scotland. so the mid—teens here, but 22—23 degrees possible down towards the south—east. now, heading on into the weekend, then, we've got this frontal system, and it's going to be really slow—moving, bringing some rain on saturday. that divides the cool air across the far north of scotland to the much warmer, humid air that's going to be piling in from the south. so saturday, plenty of dry, sunny weather for much of england, wales, northern ireland, too. a bit of cloud and mistiness. but for scotland, it is going to be pretty wet under that rain. could be some localised flooding. now, temperatures for most of us 19—25 degrees or so, but only around 10—15 with the cooler air and the rain across parts of scotland. so a day of real contrasts. we've still got this front with us into sunday, but it starts to lift a bit further north and it'll tend to turn a little bit more lighter and patchier through the day. so still some rain in the far north across parts of scotland on sunday, but for the rest of the uk, another fine, dry day with autumn sunshine around. probably not quite as warm as saturday, but still temperatures up to about 23 degrees in the south—east. typically the mid—teens, though, across parts of scotland. so the outlook — lots of dry, warm weather for parts of england and wales over the next five days or so. a few showers further north, but temperatures for all of us will be above average for the time of year. bye— bye. hello, i'm lewis vaughanjones. you're watching the context on bbc news. global temperatures hit record levels in september. one scientist described the rise as gobsmackingly bananas." temperatures across the world in september were the warmest on record, breaking the previous high by a huge margin, according to the eu climate service. last month was almost a whole degree warmer than the average september temperature between 1991 and 2020. experts say 2023 is now "on track" to be the warmest year on record. our climate editor, justin rowlatt, is here with more details. one scientist described the jump in temperatures this september as gobsmacking bananas. the new data show the average global temperature in september was 16.38 degrees celsius. that beats the previous record for september by half a degree, the largestjump ever recorded. now, take a look at this. the line in the middle of this graph represents average global temperatures for the month of september between 1991 and 2020. looking back to the 1940s, we could see septembers were colder than that for many years. but look, when we get to the year 2000, that changes. temperatures rise steadily into this year. and just look at that peak.