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dose know in the forecast today but we have sunshine and showers. tomorrow we will see rain and it will clear and high pressure will settle things down for the weekend. all the details later. it's wednesday, 30th august. the head of the uk's national air traffic control service has blamed a single piece of flight data for the disruption that has left thousands of passengers stranded. martin rolfe says the issue was incredibly rare and he is confident it can be prevented from happening again. nats has faced heavy criticism from airlines for what happened. jon donnison reports. the waiting goes on. for a third day, air passengers are facing misery, delays and uncertainty, with many still scrambling to get home. ian smales from wakefield is stuck in france with his wife and son after his flight was cancelled on monday and no more available till friday. there were people in distress, you could hear people on the phone to other family members asking if they could transfer some money across to them. there were kids that were crying, people that were due to go to other places. everywhere there were people just looking in shock. and i think everybody we spoke to just felt they were just left on their own. they are now hoping to fly to glasgow later today and drive south to yorkshire. and ian's family are not alone. with the cancellation we had last night, it was just airport officials that basically gave us a letter to say, you know, sort out your own accommodation, sort out your own flights. yes, yes, you'll get, you know, refunds for your flight, refunds for your... be able to claim for your accommodation, keep all your receipts. but it was basically thousands of people last night were left to fend for themselves. all this disruption was caused by a technical problem at air traffic control provider nats. the organisation's chief executive has now apologised and says changes have already been made. we understand the way the system didn't handle the data that we saw, the way it failed, if you like. so we have put in place already procedures to make sure that if that happens again, we can resolve it very, very quickly. that, though, will likely be little comfort for the hundreds of thousands of passengers whose flights have been cancelled or severely delayed and who now face a struggle to get any sort of compensation. jon is at heathrow. we know about the glitch but the impact for passages goes on. day three of impact for passages goes on. d: three of delays impact for passages goes on. d looked at the online departures board at heathrow and it is not as bad as yesterday but still shows a few cancellations and delays for outgoing flights in the first few hours this morning. this situation is probably worse for people trying to get back to the uk because those flights are already incredibly busy at this time of year and people are trying to rebook, do it themselves, and they are finding they are not getting availability. possibly until as late as next week. all the while they are running up large hotel bills which eventually when they get back to the uk they will have to struggle, i think, back to the uk they will have to struggle, ithink, in back to the uk they will have to struggle, i think, in some cases, to get that money paid back from the airlines. the advice at heathrow remains to check with the airlines before you come to the airport and check your flight is going. when you look at the numbers it is remarkable. more than 2000 flights we think have been cancelled, affecting more than 300,000 passengers. if you want all the advice on what to do, when you are travelling, go to the bbc website. there is a lot of good information there. later, we will speak to the chief executive of national air traffic service and find out what this technical glitch is that caused it and ask if it can happen again. victoria. good morning. nottinghamshire police are flying flags at half mast in tribute to 46—year—old sergeant graham saville who died while trying to help a distressed man on railway tracks near newark last thursday. police say he was a hugely respected and popular colleague. phil mackie reports. sergeant graham saville was responding to calls that a distressed man was on the tracks of the east coast main line near newark when he was hit by a train and critically injured last thursday evening. the man he saved, who's 29, is being treated in hospital after suffering an electric shock. flags are flying at half mast at nottinghamshire police stations and chief constable kate meynell said news of sergeant saville's death was a complete shock. on thursday, graham went to work to protect the people from nottinghamshire from harm, and it's testament to his dedication and bravery that he was killed in the line of duty whilst trying to save the life of another man. his service and sacrifice will never be forgotten. among many other tributes, the prime minister rishi sunak tweeted that it was a terrible reminder of the work the police do every day to keep us safe. "my thoughts are with his family, friends and the whole of nottinghamshire police force." investigations have focused on the state of the track and embankment, as well as looking into whether the train could have been stopped sooner. british transport police said its inquiries were still in their early stages, and described the officer's death as devastating news. phil mackie, bbc news, nottinghamshire. the man who was chief executive of the nhs trust where nurse lucy letby murdered seven babies wrote in a now—deleted blog about being "persuaded" to run a london trust by a senior nhs england boss. tony chambers has been accused of ignoring concerns raised by doctors who worked with letby. social affairs correspondent michael buchanan reports. this is tony chambers last year helping to open the royal liverpool hospital, one of severaljobs he did after leaving chester. he was chief executive of the trust when lucy letby murdered at least seven babies and attempted to murder at least six other infants in her care betweenjune 2015 and june 2016. paediatric doctors who worked with letby said mr chambers failed to live up to his own commitments when they reported their concerns. as a chief exec, i pledge to support a culture where the front—line staff are supported in raising concerns and, more importantly, me listening to them when they do. the chief executive left the countess of chester trust two months after lucy letby was arrested — in large part due to the breakdown of his relationship with the doctors who worked in the neonatal unit. within 15 months, he found himself another leadership job as interim chief executive of this large nhs trust in east london, with the full support of nhs england. in a now deleted blog seen by the bbc, mr chambers wrote... the bbc understands that he was appointed to run the london trust despite nhs england in the north west effectively blocking him from running a trust locally due to how his tenure in chester had ended. after leaving london, mr chambers got two other interim chief executive roles in cornwall and in sussex. the bbc understands nhs england approved bothjobs, despite letby�*s trial having started when the second appointment was made. nhs england said tony chambers was appointed to his posts after a competitive process and that sir david sloman was not aware of the events of the countess of chester trust when mr chambers was appointed to the london trust. michael buchanan, bbc news. the russian authorities say an airport in the north—western city of pskov has been attacked by drones. russian state media says four military transport aircraft were damaged. two of the aircraft are reported to have burst into flames. the area is close to the border with estonia. the property website zoopla says the number of houses sold in the uk this year is on track to be the lowest in more than a decade. around one million sales are set to be completed — down almost a fifth from last year. the foreign secretary, james cleverly, has arrived in beijing for the first visit to china by a senior minister in more than five years. he's due to meet the chinese foreign secretary and vice—president to discuss climate change and international security. china corresspondent stephen mcdonell explained the importance of these talks. the governments of britain and china really want these talks to go ahead. but even after five years, because relations between the chinese government and western nations are certainly not smooth, you would expect at least some level of tensions. when the uk foreign secretary sits down with his chinese counterpart, wang yi. and these are also not smooth waters to navigate forjames cleverly, because there are backbenchers in his own party who don't even want him here in the first place. they would argue that the chinese government is now beyond the point of no return when it comes to authoritarianism. so they want more so—called decoupling. that means less contact with china on all fronts. well, the uk foreign secretary would argue no, what's important is to have direct engagement with china, to smooth trade relations with this economic giant. he says he will raise human rights abuses. he says he will call on beijing to do more to pressure russia to end its invasion of ukraine, plus that there are these enormous global problems, like climate change, that simply cannot be solved without china's involvement. so he says because of china's size, because of its history, because of its place in the world, you just cannot ignore this country. the us state of florida is preparing for hurricane idalia, which is expected to make landfall later. the state governor has issued evacuation orders, amid warnings of isft high storm surges in some coastal areas. 0ur correspondentjohn sudworth has sent this report from the city of tampa. the unusually warm conditions in the gulf of mexico have fuelled the hurricane. though it's not the wind speeds that pose the greatest threat to life, but the storm surge, as large amounts of sea water are forced into florida's low—lying coastal communities. with more than 20 counties under evacuation orders, for days, the authorities have been warning those residents unable to stay with friends or relatives to head for the emergency shelters. it's difficult for me to understand, because this is my first evacuation in my entire life and it's just difficult. in your neighbourhood, have some people chosen to stay, do you know? yes, some have chosen to stay. what do you think about that? i mean, it's up to them, it's their choice. but i highly recommend for them to evacuate because it's their safety, it's their lives on the line. forecasters have now adjusted the predicted track for this hurricane, taking it towards an area of the state of florida known as the big bend, where the florida panhandle bends round into the peninsula. and there with reports that dozens of people are still holding out in their homes, the authorities are making increasingly desperate appeals for them to heed the warnings and get out. if you have not evacuated, you need to do that right now. you need to drop what you're doing. you need to go to your room, pack up, pack your things and get to safety. if you need power, you need to get to safety. you need to evacuate right now. officials in florida are repeatedly using the word "catastrophic" to describe the potential impact. more than 5,000 national guard members are on standby, as are nearly 40,000 electrical engineers, with major power cuts expected. john sudworth, bbc news, florida. hundreds of tents have been left behind at campsites following leeds festival at the weekend. drone footage shows camping equipment littered all over the fields at bramham park. volunteers and charities who visited the site to salvage the tents described it as appalling. i thought those pictures were from the festival ongoing. an awful lot of mess to clear up. good luck with that to the volunteers. here's carol. in the studio with us. it is lovely to be with you both. 0n in the studio with us. it is lovely to be with you both. on a day when the weather is quiet, more quiet than in the states. what is happening in the uk is a mixture of bright spells, sunshine and showers. fewer showers than yesterday and a bit more sunshine. we start this morning with showers in the north of the country and the west. some cloud will bubble up through the day which will bubble up through the day which will spark showers. they could be sharp in east anglia, and thundery here. towards the evening, many showers will fade and we will have a pleasant evening sunshine. these are the temperatures, 15—20, so lower than yesterday. through the evening and overnight, we are looking at clear skies to start. we have a weather front coming in from the west and the cloud will thicken. the wind will start to strengthen. but it is the supermoon tonight. at 2.35 in the morning. if you are out looking for this, we are looking at a lot of clear sky, so good luck. it will be a cool night so wrap up warm if you are stepping out. temperatures 8—10 but in sheltered glens, it could be 4—5. tomorrow starting with dry weather and sunshine in the east. the cloud and rain in the west will push northwards and eastwards as we go through the day. some uncertainty about the northern extent. this is what we think at the moment. north—east england and much of scotland, a fine and dry day with sunshine. showers in the west. the rain moving away from parts of wales. temperatures 15 in the north, 21 towards the south. after that, high pressure building and the weather looks settled on friday and early part of next week. so it might be good tonight for the blue supermoon. there is a good chance of seeing it. there is a good chance of seeing it. the first time in a couple of years. hence the expression once in a blue moon. ukraine's summer counter—offensive has met stiff russian resistance, leading to minimal gains over the last few months. quentin sommerville has been reporting from the front line and speaking to ukrainian soldiers, who are being bombarded by russian artillery in the fight for territory. its gains are modest, but from kupiansk to lyman further south, russia is resurgent. and in the serebrianski forest, it's especially fierce. we are heading deep into this forest. there has been a lot of fighting here. this is an artillery strike this morning, maybe a couple of hours ago. you see it's still burning. all this road, bad roads and missile systems, can you see, no tops of the trees. the men compare the artillery barrages to the first world war�*s verdun. but there is a new lethal threat to contend with here, kamikaze drones. bleep! the gunner has fallen inside. he is unhurt, he signals. that was a drone attack against our car, that was a ppd drone, a russian ppd drone. so, they saw us, they send a ppd drone and now they are seeking us, hunting us. so we need to go faster. we are just a couple of hundred metres from our position. the drones work in pairs. a surveillance drone is still up above so they get off the road. so, we've had to — we had to stop goping forward. the danger here is, the deeper you get into the forest, the cover doesn't get better. it's constant russian artillery, it's setting some of the trees on fire. and it's turning all these areas into wide open areas, very exposed. no tree cover here. so we had to come off the road. there are drones up above and we just saw what they can do. you can watch a longer version of quentin's report on the bbc news at six this evening. let's have a look at today's papers. many of the front pages sum up a second day of delays for air passengers. the mirror focuses on a family who it says have forked out an extra £4,000 on a flights to get home to belfast from majorca. the labour mayor of london, sadiq khan, faces a revolt over ulez, according to the telegraph. the paperfeatures an image of protesters carrying what is described as a mock coffin. the paper quotes transport secretary mark harper, who has called for there to be a grace period before drivers in london are issued fines. and the times says that scientists are "pouring cold water on beer goggles". they report on a study by the university of pittsburgh, which found that alcohol cannot make someone appear more attractive. here's the striking painting of the monarch of the glen painting, by sir edwin landseer — one of the most famous british pictures of the 19th century. it's in the news this morning because it's been moved to its new home at the national gallery of scotland, with only one month to go until the opening of the new scottish galleries at the national in edinburgh on 30th of september. it is magnificent. four women who were all raped by the same man have waived their anonymity to campaign for better treatment for rape victims in the justice system. 23—year—old logan doig was sentenced to nine and a half years, with a further three years' extended sentence, at glasgow's high court last month. 0ur reporter catriona renton has been speaking to three of the women about supporting each other in court and making it easier to get justice in scotland. none of us would have any reason to know each other. he's the only common denominator, and that's the only reason we do know each other. we all came together in a group chat that was called safe space, and that's just exactly what it was. and we got to know each other in that capacity, in that group chat, just sharing in bits and pieces about what had happened to us and we soon began to realise that we'd actually experienced near enough the same. and then the trust just grew, where we felt we could confide in each other to share our experiences. without each other and without that group chat, we never would have made it to trial. what we're doing is just to help people in the future, like people coming after us. so we gain absolutely nothing from this. we are just trying, to the best of our ability, use our awful experiences to hopefully help other people and make the changes that need to happen. from start to finish, the process was long and draining. there was a time that each and every one of us wanted to drop out and be finished with it. it's such a long, horrible process and it felt never—ending. what is the point? like, we're not getting anywhere with this. it just was so consuming for those two and a half years. and, like, we couldn't move on with our life. people were telling us to move on and just put it to the back of your head until the time comes. that's impossible. we all had no idea and there is no manual out there and there's just nothing for a long, long time. it's like you go and report and there's nothing. how do you feel victims are treated? terribly. there needs to be stricter guidelines on what defence lawyers can say to a victim giving evidence. because you aren't treated like a human, you're just like a bit of evidence and it's disgusting, it's so retraumatising. he was always treated as innocent until proven guilty, but we were always treated as liars until proven truthful. in the court system, not by anyone who took statements or anyone that was involved in building the case, but in the court system, you've got to stand there and defend your truth and all he's got to do is sit there. because he's innocent until they've made their minds up. but you've got to convince them. that you're not lying? uh—huh. we've put ourselves through this, come out battered and bruised by the end, and we have essentially got a serial rapist and abuser locked away. so he's not going to hurt anyone else, and that's why we did all this. we were lucky enough to have each other — even now, like navigating, being public and stuff — other people don't. and i think that's one of the main things for us, because, in hindsight, looking back, some of us can see so clearly why people on their own would drop their charges. but obviously, at that moment, we hopped on the group chat. and even after logan doig was found guilty, the women felt they weren't given the chance to be heard. in scotland, it is not standard practice for victim impact statements to be read out in full in court. we were under the impresson that, if we wanted to, we could read our victim impact statements. we never got to. it was never even offered, it was never a suggestion. actually, we were told it doesn't look good if you do. but he'd already been convicted. when you're on the stand, you know you're giving your evidence, and it's about what happened to you in that moment, you're not then given the opportunity to actually be direct to the person that destroyed you, to be like, well, you've not actually destroyed me. you know, having that opportunity to be able to directly say to them this is what you did, and making them listen to how it did impact your life, but also where you are now and the position that you're in now. i almost feel like it's a bit cheated, because it was really cold and callous on the stand. that was hannah mclaughlan, jennifer mccann and hannah reid speaking to our reporter catriona renton. remarkable to see that unity and have them speaking publicly like that. a spokesperson for the scottish government told us that victim statements are used to inform sentencing decisions, and that it's committed to improving the system to better reflect the needs of victims. if you've been affected by any of the issues mentioned in that report, there's help on the bbc website. still to come on breakfast. welcome aboard thisl northern service to... duduth. dudworth. dodworth. welcome aboard this northern service to... wumwell. not womb—well? no, wumwell. northern rail is re—recording some of its automated announcements to correct mistakes with the pronouncation of place names. it follows a backlash from passengers, proud of where they live and frustrated with the train company getting some of them wrong. a lot of places in the uk have interesting names. 0utsiders get it wrong and it really annoys. sometimes getting it wrong here ourselves. we'd love to hear from you. you can tell us properly this morning how you want it pronounced if you are in li—cester. aln—wick. it would be great if people send videos, how people wrongly pronounce it and how they should pronounce it. give us an education this morning. the number is there and you can get in touch on social media. and the qr code will connect you automatically. do not forget to tell us who you are and crucially where you are getting in touch from. we will be able to name check that also, hopefully correctly. time for the news, travel and weather where you are. a very good morning and welcome to bbc london, i'm thomas magill. campaigners have occupied a block of empty flats owned by the ministry ofjustice in islington and are demanding they are given to families who need homes in the borough. the block used to be occupied by prison officers at pentonville but has been vacant for a decade. the ministry ofjustice says an application to turn the site into new housing was turned down by the council and they're continuing to look for the best way to use the building. campaigners say around 15,000 families are on the housing waiting list in islington. cameras used to enforce the nearly expanded ultra low emission zone are continuing to be vandalised. the latest incident was reported in bromley where four cameras were painted red in protest. the mayor insists the zone is needed to tackle air pollution. a £160 million scrappage scheme is still available for all londoners to claim a maximum of £2,000 per vehicle from. bob and his daughter are among the thousands of londoners who have applied but says the process is slow. she applied last monday, the 21st, the first day of the scrappage scheme, and up to today we've heard nothing. and for more on the arguments for and against the expansion of ulez, head over to our website. let's see how the tube is running at this time of the morning. there's a good service on all of the network. and just a reminder, rail bosses are advising people to plan ahead if you're intending to use the trains on friday as strike action is planned. 16 operators are affected including southern, southeastern and swr which has said the majority of its network will be closed. and rmt members are also taking industrial action on saturday. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. last night's clear skies mean it's a bright start this morning, plenty of sunshine but today we do have a chance of one or two showers. the cloud will gradually start to bubble up through this morning. with that we get the showers, just some scattered ones as we head through the afternoon, especially, but still some sunny spells and temperatures today reaching 20 celsius. that shower risk will fade into the evening, becoming dry and largely clear and under those clear skies, temperatures again sneaking back down into single figures. quite a fresh night, the minimum of eight celsius. a bright start tomorrow morning, short lived. you can see this cloud just moving in, that's our next front and that is going to bring more cloud and some quite unsettled conditions through thursday. the cloud spreads across, with it the rain arrives and that rain is really going to come and go through the course of thursday. perhaps a few sharper bursts mixed in there as well. temperatures tomorrow, a cool 17 or 18 celsius. high pressure builds towards friday and into the weekend so it's looking largely fine and dry and the temperatures a little warmer. that's it from me, more on the bbc news app and on bbc radio london throughout the morning. i'll be back in half an hour but for now lets cross back tojon and victoria. hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and victoria valentine. within the next few hours, foreign secretary, james cleverly, will meet with chinese foreign minister, wang yi, in an attempt to smooth relations between the west and beijing. mr cleverly is the first senior minister to travel to china since 2018, and hopes to discuss climate change and russia's invasion of ukraine. we arejoined now by dr yujie, senior research fellow on china at chatham house. senior research fellow thank senior research fellow you very much indeed for joining thank you very much indeed for joining us. how significant is this meeting today, both for the uk and for china? , ., , , meeting today, both for the uk and forchina? , ., _ _ for china? obviously it symbolically it is very important, _ for china? obviously it symbolically it is very important, as _ for china? obviously it symbolically it is very important, as you - for china? obviously it symbolically it is very important, as you said - it is very important, as you said earlier, after nearly five years there has been no senior uk minister landing in beijing. but on the other hand i don't think we should take this single visit as being a sign of improvement of the relations between beijing and london, giving a whole range of sticking points that has been around on the relationship. doctor dr yu, a partnerfor report —— there seems to be confusion over the policy for china. do you know what britain's initial strategy is regarding china?— what britain's initial strategy is regarding china? judging from the inte . rated regarding china? judging from the integrated review _ regarding china? judging from the integrated review refresher, - regarding china? judging from the integrated review refresher, china has been the defining challenge of all time, and that was the conclusion that on the one hand, we want to be tough with china but on the other hand, the uk also wants to retain that sense of economic partnership with china at the same time. i think the key message is bought rishi sunak and james cleverly, striking a of medium weight and ambivalence when it comes to dealing with the second largest economy in the world. but to dealing with the second largest economy in the world.— to dealing with the second largest economy in the world. but why should china listen to _ economy in the world. but why should china listen to britain _ economy in the world. but why should china listen to britain these _ economy in the world. but why should china listen to britain these days? - china listen to britain these days? there are plenty of good reasons that china to listen to the one hand the uk remains a permanent member of the uk remains a permanent member of the un security council, something that the china and uk could work together on global issues. but also given the current stage of the chinese economy, with the sense of the weak growth prospect, the more western investment stays in china, the better. we are coming to a criticaljuncture the better. we are coming to a critical juncture that the better. we are coming to a criticaljuncture that beijing begins to shift its attitude towards the collective wet as well. in terms ofthe the collective wet as well. in terms of the uk china — the collective wet as well. in terms of the uk china relationship, - the collective wet as well. in terms of the uk china relationship, whatl of the uk china relationship, what kinds of project might happen, but kinds of project might happen, but kind of things might we notice that symbolise any future cooperation? i think the key area will be on climate change and financial services. but given the current political climate, when we are talking about university and scientific research collaboration, that will not be on the table at all. i think that will not be on the table at all. ithink it that will not be on the table at all. i think it will be on the climate change side and global governance on financial policy side. what do you think beijing really thinks of the uk these days? it has been a rapidly changing world, a complex world, brexit, the economy, the pandemic, big changes since there was any meeting between the two countries. what they think of us in beijing? two countries. what they think of us in bei'in: ? . ~ two countries. what they think of us in bei'in: ? ,, . .,, in beijing? since the last meeting, nearl five in beijing? since the last meeting, nearly five years _ in beijing? since the last meeting, nearly five years ago, _ in beijing? since the last meeting, nearly five years ago, the - in beijing? since the last meeting, nearly five years ago, the world i in beijing? since the last meeting, | nearly five years ago, the world has really changed quite a lot. i think the one key thing for chinese leaders, they couldn't really get their head around regarding firstly their head around regarding firstly the brexit mode, and secondly, to have witnessed a successive change of prime minister in the uk. and beijing is trying to evaluate what exactly the uk can bring towards china. i think really the mood in beijing the sense of looking for clarity from london. it’s clarity from london. it's fascinating, _ clarity from london. it's fascinating, it's - clarity from london. it's fascinating, it's going to be an interesting meeting, dr yujie, interesting meeting, dr yu jie, thank interesting meeting, dr yujie, thank you forjoining us in our newsroom in london.- thank you forjoining us in our newsroom in london. i think it's about time we talk about sport, good morning. when do you ever hear about this? six british players in action on the second day of the us open, all winning, all seven have made it through the first round, and none of them dropped a set, 18 sets played and won. . ., , ., ., them dropped a set, 18 sets played | and won-_ you and won. once in a blue moon! you have not and won. once in a blue moon! you have got to — and won. once in a blue moon! you have got to feel— and won. once in a blue moon! you have got to feel for _ and won. once in a blue moon! you have got to feel forjodie _ and won. once in a blue moon! you have got to feel forjodie burrage i have got to feel forjodie burrage who was playing the anchor leg of the seven, no pressure on her that she got through, and danny murray as well. how often can we say that? —— andy murray as well. yes, good morning. a really memorable day for british tennis with the six players in action yesterday all making it through, tojoin lily miyazaki in the second round. andy murray one of those, straight out of the blocks against frenchman corentin moutet of france, winning the first set 6—2. but moutet threatened to end that perfect run of sets, wasting two set points in the second, before murray held his nerve to win and then take the third. he'll play grigor dimitrov next. yeah, i thought i did well. difficult match against a very skilful opponent. a very different game style to pretty much all of the guys on the tour now. and, yeah, there were a lot of long points and tricky moments out there, you know, a lot of stuff going on there on the court so i did well to get it done in three sets. cameron norrie another one through. he beat alexander shevchenko, winning injust over an hour and a half and will be hoping to progress further than the fourth round, which he reached last year. the british number two jack draper saw off world number 102 radu albot with ease. that was before dan evans made it four british men into round two. katie boulterjoining that list of brits, beating diane parry of france to reach the second round at the us open for the first time. as did jodie burrage, the relief she managed to continue that clean sweep, and plays aryna sabalenka next. what a night for salford fc who beat leeds, two divisions above them, that the biggest upset in the second round of the league cup last night. a match settled by the dreaded penalties, salford holding their nerve, much to the delight of the players and co—owner nicky butt, who was watching alongside former manchester united team—mate roy keane. 9—8 it was settled on penalties after it finished 1—1 in normal time. perhaps no surprise to hear manchester city's erling haaland won the pfa men's players' player of the year award. it follows that astonishing break—out season in the premier league last term, 52 goals in all competitions. 0n social media haaland said he was truly honoured. "thank you pfa for this!" rachel daly won the women's award. in saudi arabia, former premier league players continue to make their mark following their big money moves to the gulf state. riyad mahrez scored for al—ahli while former liverpool striker sadio mane was on the scoresheet for al nassr, set up by cristiano ronaldo, who also scored twice as they beat al shabab 4—0. spanish police have revealed four people have been arrested for an alleged attempt to sabotage a stage of the vuelta a espana. police said they were planning to spill hundreds of litres of a liquid similar to motor oil on the road during monday's third stage. thankfully there were no reported issues during yesterday's stage which was won by kaden groves in a thrilling sprint finish. 0verall leader remco evenepoel finished in the chasing pack and keeps the leaders red jersey holding a five second lead. and finally what the world has been waiting for, harry kane in lederhosen! the england captain, after making the move to bayern munich, aside from scoring goals, has been wearing the traditional bavarian outfits, drinking beer and eating german sausage for a club photoshoot. it appears he needed a few tips from his german team—mate thomas muller in how to cut his weisswurst. i think thatjust i think that just translates to white sausage. do you think his england team—mate are going to remind him of that photo shoot? i don't think he is ever going to live that down. it don't think he is ever going to live that down. , don't think he is ever going to live that down-— don't think he is ever going to live that down. , ., ~ ., ., that down. it will be taken out and ut on that down. it will be taken out and put on posters _ that down. it will be taken out and put on posters for— that down. it will be taken out and put on posters for the _ that down. it will be taken out and put on posters for the next - that down. it will be taken out and | put on posters for the next england germany game! fin put on posters for the next england germany game!— put on posters for the next england germany game! on the back of all of the t-shirts, — germany game! on the back of all of the t-shirts, a _ germany game! on the back of all of the t-shirts, a pasty _ germany game! on the back of all of the t-shirts, a pasty sausage! - as florida prepares forfierce winds and torrential rain from hurricane idalia, a rare weather event has been captured in tampa. collect this, is that amazing? pilots at macdill air force base filmed st elmo's fire, a lightning—like weather phenomenon in which luminous plasma is created in an atmospheric electric field. absolutely stunning. i can hear the songin absolutely stunning. i can hear the song in my head from the 80s movie. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. you have been looking at that situation across the atlantic because the hurricane is looking pretty terrifying? yes, category two butjust on the cost of a category three, sustained wind of 110 miles an hour. this is hurricane franklin, but this is what we are keeping an eye on, strengthening to the gulf of mexico, it is hurricane idalia, moving at 80 miles an hour towards florida. at the moment it is 160 miles south of tallahassee —— it is moving at 18 miles an hour. it will produce a strong winds, torrential rain and it will have a huge storm surge. 16 feet, a double—decker bus is about 15 feet. it will be taller than that. it is fuelled by the warm waters of the gulf of mexico which currently in the north—east are about 31 degrees, a few degrees higher than they normally would be. so a lot of devastation is likely to be caused by this, not least flooding and there will be real risk to life as well. it is expected to make landfall this morning us time. todayit make landfall this morning us time. today it is quieter for us, sunny spells and scattered showers, fairly hit and miss as we go through the course of the day. no pressure driving our weather but it is driving our weather but it is driving out into the north sea currently. —— low pressure driving the weather. things will be quieted towards the end of the week as that establishes itself. today we have some trying to start with, a peppering of showers in the north and west, the cloud will bubble up and west, the cloud will bubble up and set off a further showers. in east anglia, they could be heavy and thundering. 15 degrees, not quite as high as they were yesterday. it will feel pleasant enough of through this evening and overnight, with that of with clear skies but also with the cloud is building and we will see some in strengthening winds. it is the blue super moon tonight, to 30 5am central and eastern areas, documentary at 2:35am. you might see it. tomorrow we start dry with sunshine in the north and east by the rain continuing to pile on the west, moving north and east. this is how far we think it's going to get, this position could change a little bit. it is looking like a fine day in scotland in the north—east of england with temperatures 15 to 20 degrees. as we move further into the weak towards the weekend, friday low pressure has moved away, or lend early doors. then a mixture of bright spells, sunshine and a few showers. as we head into the weekend, here comes the high—pressure, it will stay with us not just through the high—pressure, it will stay with us notjust through the put into the early part of next week, possibly dare i say it, a of next week. —— a lot of next week. we will start with mist and fog, some will be slow to lift, a lot of dry weather and sunshine and temperatures creeping up, 23 at the maximum on saturday. typical, back to school and the weather gets better. that typical, back to school and the weather gets better.— typical, back to school and the weather gets better. at least it's not snowing! _ if you've ever renovated your home or if you work in the trade you'll know that getting rid of old carpets can be a bit of a task and not very environmentally friendly. are mainly made of plastic. most unwanted carpet currently ends up in landfill even though it could be upcycled into other products. ben can tell us more. good morning from the uk's first carpet recycling factory here in northampton. this is one of several truckloads that will arrive today alone. this is a whole mix of unsorted different material types of carpet, that is how they arrive all bundled up. they then get cut up and sorted into sizes that can be put through the machines according to material, that it is another pallet that has been cut up and ready. the first stage of the process turns it into this, have a look at that. that is the best bit of processing but you can see all sorts of different materials in there, that's not much use, it cannot be made into anything just yet. the next step of the process turns it into these plastic pellets which can be reused and recycled, turned into all sorts of products, temporary driveways, grass, roof tiles. half a million tonnes of carpetjust like that gets thrown away in the uk every year. at the momentjust 2% of it gets recycled and turned into other material. here at this factory, they processed 12 tonnes of carpet every day, their aim is processed 12 tonnes of carpet every day, theiraim is to processed 12 tonnes of carpet every day, their aim is to recycled, repurposed 20,000 tonnes every year. let's find out a little bit more about the process. simon is here from the company that delivers the carpet, where it until coming from? it comes from the carpets where we fit to the new build sector, we collect the cuts and bring them back to our distribution centre catering to our distribution centre catering to be boiled and distributed. so is it 'ust the to be boiled and distributed. so is it just the midlands _ to be boiled and distributed. so is it just the midlands and further itjust the midlands and further afield? , ., ., ., afield? yes, we have it all over the country 14 — afield? yes, we have it all over the country 14 regions. _ afield? yes, we have it all over the country 14 regions. if— afield? yes, we have it all over the country 14 regions. if the _ afield? yes, we have it all over the country 14 regions. if the carpet. country 14 regions. if the carpet are not coming _ country 14 regions. if the carpet are not coming to _ country 14 regions. if the carpet are not coming to be _ country 14 regions. if the carpet are not coming to be recycled, l country 14 regions. if the carpet - are not coming to be recycled, where would they be going? thea;r are not coming to be recycled, where would they be going?— would they be going? they would be auoin to would they be going? they would be going to landfill— would they be going? they would be going to landfill or— would they be going? they would be going to landfill or burned _ would they be going? they would be going to landfill or burned to - would they be going? they would be going to landfill or burned to make | going to landfill or burned to make energy, unfortunately. let’s going to landfill or burned to make energy, unfortunately.— energy, unfortunately. let's speak to the founder— energy, unfortunately. let's speak to the founder and _ energy, unfortunately. let's speak to the founder and chief— energy, unfortunately. let's speak to the founder and chief executive | to the founder and chief executive of this, the uk's first recycling factory for carpets. it's a very niche business to go into, what made you set it up?— you set it up? i have been in carets you set it up? i have been in carpets most _ you set it up? i have been in carpets most of _ you set it up? i have been in carpets most of my - you set it up? i have been in carpets most of my life, - you set it up? i have been in carpets most of my life, my | you set it up? i have been in - carpets most of my life, my parents owned _ carpets most of my life, my parents owned a _ carpets most of my life, my parents owned a retail store and took over a few years _ owned a retail store and took over a few years ago and i noticed the amount— few years ago and i noticed the amount of— few years ago and i noticed the amount of waste i was producing. it tended _ amount of waste i was producing. it tended to _ amount of waste i was producing. it tended to be fully propylene —based carpets, _ tended to be fully propylene —based carpets, i_ tended to be fully propylene —based carpets, i saw that no one was doing anything. _ carpets, ! saw that no one was doing anything. so— carpets, i saw that no one was doing anything, sol carpets, i saw that no one was doing anything, so i took the mantle and thought— anything, so i took the mantle and thought i_ anything, so i took the mantle and thought i would go and start facility _ thought i would go and start facili , i: i: i: i: thought i would go and start facili . :: :::::: ., , thought i would go and start facili . :: 11:1: ., , , thought i would go and start facili , :: ijijij ., , ., facility. 20,000 tonnes is your aim to re cle facility. 20,000 tonnes is your aim to recycle and _ facility. 20,000 tonnes is your aim to recycle and reuse _ facility. 20,000 tonnes is your aim to recycle and reuse carpets, - facility. 20,000 tonnes is your aim to recycle and reuse carpets, just l facility. 20,000 tonnes is your aim to recycle and reuse carpets, just a tiny fraction of what gets thrown out every year. is capacity to do more? ., out every year. is capacity to do more? . ., ., , ., more? there are areas, we are lookin: more? there are areas, we are looking at — more? there are areas, we are looking at other _ more? there are areas, we are looking at other sites - more? there are areas, we are looking at other sites in - more? there are areas, we are looking at other sites in the - more? there are areas, we are| looking at other sites in the uk, one in_ looking at other sites in the uk, one in scotland, one in wales, 40.000 — one in scotland, one in wales, 40,000 tonnes per facility. the ambition— 40,000 tonnes per facility. the ambition is to have ken around the uk, in_ ambition is to have ken around the uk, in order— ambition is to have ken around the uk, in orderto ambition is to have ken around the uk, in order to take the majority of the 500 _ uk, in order to take the majority of the 500 thousand tonnes of waste. —— the 500 thousand tonnes of waste. —— the ambition _ the 500 thousand tonnes of waste. —— the ambition is to have ken around the ambition is to have ken around the uk _ the ambition is to have ken around the uk. if— the ambition is to have ken around the uk. , ., , ., the ambition is to have ken around the uk. , .,, ., ., ., the uk. if people want to do the ri . ht the uk. if people want to do the right thing. _ the uk. if people want to do the right thing. how _ the uk. if people want to do the right thing, how do _ the uk. if people want to do the right thing, how do they - the uk. if people want to do the right thing, how do they make l the uk. if people want to do the i right thing, how do they make sure their carpet ends up here when i have finished with it rather than in landfill or being incinerated or bad? ., . , , ~ , .,~ bad? product design is key, making sure it is all — bad? product design is key, making sure it is all one _ bad? product design is key, making sure it is all one polymer, _ bad? product design is key, making sure it is all one polymer, we - bad? product design is key, making sure it is all one polymer, we look. sure it is all one polymer, we look at polypropylene carpet, making sure that is _ at polypropylene carpet, making sure that is polypropylene to get here through— that is polypropylene to get here through the waste management companies. they will identify it as a polymer— companies. they will identify it as a polymer carpet and they can't pass it on to _ a polymer carpet and they can't pass it on to us _ a polymer carpet and they can't pass it on to us and it can be recycling. so it— it on to us and it can be recycling. so it is— it on to us and it can be recycling. so it is about _ it on to us and it can be recycling. so it is about choosing the right carpet when you are buying but what about throwing it up? can you put it in normal recycling? ida. about throwing it up? can you put it in normal recycling?— about throwing it up? can you put it in normal recycling? no, you have to no throu~h in normal recycling? no, you have to go through specialist _ in normal recycling? no, you have to go through specialist companies - in normal recycling? no, you have to go through specialist companies like| go through specialist companies like in the _ go through specialist companies like in the retail company, making sure they have — in the retail company, making sure they have got the right weight management companies can it to us. -- waste _ management companies can it to us. —— waste management companies. | —— waste management companies. i find it astonishing that carpet that emerged like that from the carpets can turn into pellets like this. i will show you the machines that do the process later, it is really quite impressive. it's quite therapeutic doing this, to be honest. ,, , , ., . honest. quite mesmerising watching ou. it is honest. quite mesmerising watching you- it is like — honest. quite mesmerising watching you. it is like one _ honest. quite mesmerising watching you. it is like one of— honest. quite mesmerising watching you. it is like one of those _ honest. quite mesmerising watching you. it is like one of those asmr - you. it is like one of those asmr videos, you. it is like one of those asmr videos. just _ you. it is like one of those asmr videos, just chill _ you. it is like one of those asmr videos, just chill out, _ you. it is like one of those asmr videos, just chill out, the - you. it is like one of those asmr videos, just chill out, the brain l videos, just chill out, the brain can go to neil, i love it. i wonder if our can go to neil, i love it. i wonder if your carpet— can go to neil, i love it. i wonder if your carpet is— can go to neil, i love it. i wonder if your carpet is in _ can go to neil, i love it. i wonder if your carpet is in ben's - can go to neil, i love it. i wonder if your carpet is in ben's hands! l if your carpet is in ben's hands! that's a weird thought. it's fair to say summer has been a bit of a wash—out and while lots of us may still be holding out for a barbecue or a sunny afternoon in the garden, some shops have already brought out the christmas decorations. in august! 0nly only 117 days 0nly117 days till christmas! only 117 days till christmas! quite a lot of shops _ only 117 days till christmas! quite a lot of shops have _ only 117 days till christmas! quite a lot of shops have already - only 117 days till christmas! quite a lot of shops have already got i only 117 days till christmas! quite a lot of shops have already got the gratings out. we are in the spirit. —— and they have already got the decorations out. business is missing out in the summer tried out doing this, just after the august bank holiday! so it means looking ahead to christmas. you holiday! so it means looking ahead to christmas.— to christmas. you look like an elf. it reall to christmas. you look like an elf. it really suits _ to christmas. you look like an elf. it really suits you. _ alison freeman is at thirsk garden centre in north yorkshire and can tell us more. i bet he will look completely straight and we look ridiculous! —— she will look straight! it is a lovely christmassy scene in august, i wish i could see what you guys look like! christmas in august. the summer has been a wash—out so sales of traditional summer that are not going well in garden centres so they have got the christmas decorations out. this is what we are talking about, garden furniture, you would normally expect b big sales but our garden centres have not seen it so they have to find other ways of getting customers through the doors. the owner of garden centre is here, helen, would you normally have them out this early? date here, helen, would you normally have them out this early?— them out this early? we have never had them out _ them out this early? we have never had them out this _ them out this early? we have never had them out this early _ them out this early? we have never had them out this early so - them out this early? we have never had them out this early so far - had them out this early so far before. so had them out this early so far before. , . ,, had them out this early so far before. , . i. ., before. so why have you got them out? garden _ before. so why have you got them out? garden furniture _ before. so why have you got them out? garden furniture sales - before. so why have you got them out? garden furniture sales are i before. so why have you got them l out? garden furniture sales are very slow at the — out? garden furniture sales are very slow at the moment. _ out? garden furniture sales are very slow at the moment. so _ out? garden furniture sales are very slow at the moment. so we - out? garden furniture sales are very slow at the moment. so we are - out? garden furniture sales are very slow at the moment. so we are just| slow at the moment. so we are just trying to bring more people into the garden centre. trying to bring more people into the garden centre-— trying to bring more people into the garden centre. what has affected it? the weather. — garden centre. what has affected it? the weather, garden _ garden centre. what has affected it? the weather, garden furniture - garden centre. what has affected it? the weather, garden furniture was . the weather, garden furniture was very good up untiljune, were very pleased with it. but when the cold weather came and the rain came, furniture sales really started to trickle through. i5 furniture sales really started to trickle through. is it furniture sales really started to trickle through.— furniture sales really started to trickle through. is it 'ust garden furniture, as h trickle through. is it 'ust garden furniture, as it _ trickle through. is itjust garden furniture, as it plants _ trickle through. is itjust garden furniture, as it plants as - trickle through. is itjust garden furniture, as it plants as well? | furniture, as it plants as well? plants have been a bit disappointing, especially summer bedding plant playback. so disappointing, especially summer bedding plant playback.— disappointing, especially summer bedding plant playback. so what are --eole bedding plant playback. so what are people buying _ bedding plant playback. so what are people buying? _ bedding plant playback. so what are people buying? so _ bedding plant playback. so what are people buying? so a _ bedding plant playback. so what are people buying? so a moment - bedding plant playback. so what are people buying? so a moment are i people buying? so a moment are lookin: to people buying? so a moment are looking to the — people buying? so a moment are looking to the new— people buying? so a moment are looking to the new season, - people buying? so a moment are looking to the new season, theyl people buying? so a moment are i looking to the new season, they are buying bulbs and seeds for next year. it buying bulbs and seeds for next ear, ., ., " , buying bulbs and seeds for next ear, ., ., ", " ., year. it looks like a winter wonderland _ year. it looks like a winter wonderland here, - year. it looks like a winter wonderland here, what i year. it looks like a winter| wonderland here, what has year. it looks like a winter i wonderland here, what has the customer reaction beam? thea;r wonderland here, what has the customer reaction beam? they can't believe it, they _ customer reaction beam? they can't believe it, they go, _ customer reaction beam? they can't believe it, they go, oh, _ customer reaction beam? they can't believe it, they go, oh, no! - customer reaction beam? they can't believe it, they go, oh, no! they i believe it, they go, oh, no! they ut their believe it, they go, oh, no! they put their hands _ believe it, they go, oh, no! they put their hands in _ believe it, they go, oh, no! they put their hands in their - believe it, they go, oh, no! they put their hands in their pockets? they do, actually, on sunday we had a very good day poor soil to christmas. 50 a very good day poor soil to christmas.— a very good day poor soil to christmas. , ., , ., ., christmas. so people are horrified but they are _ christmas. so people are horrified but they are spending? _ christmas. so people are horrified but they are spending? yes, i christmas. so people are horrified but they are spending? yes, they| but they are spending? yes, they are! we have _ but they are spending? yes, they are! we have spent _ but they are spending? yes, they are! we have spent a _ but they are spending? yes, they are! we have spent a lot - but they are spending? yes, they are! we have spent a lot of i but they are spending? yes, theyl are! we have spent a lot of money but they are spending? yes, they i are! we have spent a lot of money on the coffee shop to try and attract people in, and hopefully when they come in they will spend the money in the garden centre.— the garden centre. thank you so much. the garden centre. thank you so much- let's _ the garden centre. thank you so much. let's find _ the garden centre. thank you so much. let's find out _ the garden centre. thank you so much. let's find out about i the garden centre. thank you so i much. let's find out about whether consumers are ready for this, our business expert in, graham, good morning. business expert in, graham, good morninu. ., business expert in, graham, good morning-_ do - business expert in, graham, good morning-_ do you - business expert in, graham, good l morning._ do you think morning. hello, there. do you think customers are _ morning. hello, there. do you think customers are ready _ morning. hello, there. do you think customers are ready for _ morning. hello, there. do you think customers are ready for this, i morning. hello, there. do you think customers are ready for this, is i morning. hello, there. do you think customers are ready for this, is the | customers are ready for this, is the consumer ready for business in august? i consumer ready for business in au . ust? ., consumer ready for business in au~ust? . ., , consumer ready for business in au~ust? . . , ., consumer ready for business in au~ust? . . , , august? i am always asked this, but if retailers were _ august? i am always asked this, but if retailers were not _ august? i am always asked this, but if retailers were not selling - august? i am always asked this, but if retailers were not selling would i if retailers were not selling would not have — if retailers were not selling would not have it — if retailers were not selling would not have it out so early. in the current — not have it out so early. in the current cost _ not have it out so early. in the current cost of living crisis, people _ current cost of living crisis, people are spreading the cost of christmas so they want to buy things in august— christmas so they want to buy things in august and spread the cost and the spending over a period of several— the spending over a period of several months. we the spending over a period of several months.— the spending over a period of several months. ~ ~ ., , several months. we know the summer has been a wash-out, _ several months. we know the summer has been a wash-out, terrible - has been a wash—out, terrible weather and sales have gone down in furniture, our gardens in trouble? absolutely not, garden centres are absolutely booming. they are an unsung _ absolutely booming. they are an unsung part of the retail landscape, department stores are changing on the street— department stores are changing on the street but garden centres are becoming — the street but garden centres are becoming more like department stores. — becoming more like department stores. it— becoming more like department stores, it has got the cafe, the gift, _ stores, it has got the cafe, the gift, the — stores, it has got the cafe, the gift, the it's all about that the sense — gift, the it's all about that the sense of— gift, the it's all about that the sense ofjoy and, an amusement that you cannot _ sense ofjoy and, an amusement that you cannot get on your phone. looking — you cannot get on your phone. looking behind you, will you be buying any christmas gifts? i will! buying any christmas gifts? i will be supporting — buying any christmas gifts? i will be supporting independent businesses on the _ be supporting independent businesses on the high street but it's a bit early— on the high street but it's a bit early for— on the high street but it's a bit early for me. do on the high street but it's a bit early for me-— on the high street but it's a bit earl for me. i. ~ ., early for me. do you think garden centres will _ early for me. do you think garden centres will provide? _ early for me. do you think garden centres will provide? yes, - early for me. do you think garden centres will provide? yes, it i early for me. do you think garden centres will provide? yes, it has i centres will provide? yes, it has done really _ centres will provide? yes, it has done really well. _ centres will provide? yes, it has done really well. what - centres will provide? yes, it has done really well. what hasn't i centres will provide? yes, it has i done really well. what hasn't sold in furniture — done really well. what hasn't sold in furniture has made up in booming sales— in furniture has made up in booming sales in_ in furniture has made up in booming sales in cafe — in furniture has made up in booming sales in cafe and pet wares. people rediscovered their gardens in covid, and we _ rediscovered their gardens in covid, and we are — rediscovered their gardens in covid, and we are still seeing their trend of the _ and we are still seeing their trend of the spending there. do and we are still seeing their trend of the spending there.— and we are still seeing their trend of the spending there. do you like christmas? _ of the spending there. do you like christmas? yes, _ of the spending there. do you like christmas? yes, but _ of the spending there. do you like christmas? yes, but not - of the spending there. do you like christmas? yes, but not yet! i- of the spending there. do you like i christmas? yes, but not yet! i have 'ust not to christmas? yes, but not yet! i have just got to show _ christmas? yes, but not yet! i have just got to show you _ christmas? yes, but not yet! i have just got to show you this, _ christmas? yes, but not yet! i have just got to show you this, my i just got to show you this, my favourite thing i have found so far, a lovely little white fluffy owl, how christmassy is that? i don't really know _ how christmassy is that? i don't really know what _ how christmassy is that? i don't really know what you _ how christmassy is that? i don't really know what you say, i how christmassy is that? i don't really know what you say, it i how christmassy is that? i don't really know what you say, it is l really know what you say, it is lovely. a lovely fluffy owl. brute really know what you say, it is lovely. a lovely fluffy owl. we are not feeling _ lovely. a lovely fluffy owl. we are not feeling it. _ lovely. a lovely fluffy owl. we are not feeling it, terribly _ not feeling it, terribly christmassy. it not feeling it, terribly christmassy.- not feeling it, terribly christmassy. not feeling it, terribly christmass . , , . not feeling it, terribly christmass. , ,~ i] not feeling it, terribly christmass. , ,~ m christmassy. it is very cute. i love the owl, christmassy. it is very cute. i love the owl. it's _ christmassy. it is very cute. i love the owl, it's the _ christmassy. it is very cute. i love the owl, it's the christmas - christmassy. it is very cute. i love the owl, it's the christmas meal l the owl, it's the christmas meal which we are struggling with. i get it for businesses, it is important. still to come on breakfast. tv presenter sarah beeny has spent much of her life in the unpredictable world of property renovation. her latest book is all about the many homes she's lived in and moving to a former dairy farm in somerset. sarah will be here to tell us all about it at 8.15am. because over the last couple of years she has also been battling health issues with breast cancer, she will talk about that as well in her book. she talked about how home has become even more important to her. ., has become even more important to her. . ., ., ., her. that said of home, finding home and family- — time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. a very good morning and welcome to bbc london, i'm thomas magill. cameras used to enforce the newly expanded ultra low emission zone are continuing to be vandalised. the latest incident was reported in bromley where four cameras were painted red in protest. the mayor insists the zone is needed to tackle air pollution. a £160 million scrappage scheme is still available for all londoners a £1.6 million scrappage scheme is still available for all londoners to claim a maximum of £2,000 per vehicle from. bob and his daughter are among the thousands of londoners who have applied — but says the process is slow. she applied last monday, the 21st, the first day of the scrappage scheme, and up to today we've heard nothing. that was a £160 million pot for the scrappage scheme. and for more on the arguments for and against the expansion of ulez head over to our website. campaigners have occupied a block of empty flats owned by the ministry ofjustice in islington and are demanding they are given to families who need homes in the borough. the block used to be occupied by prison officers at pentonville — but has been vacant for a decade. the ministry ofjustice says an application to turn the site into new housing was turned down by the council and they're continuing to look for the best way to use the building. campaigners say around 15,000 families are on the housing waiting list in islington. let's see how the tube is running at this time of the morning — there's a good service on all of the network. and just a reminder — rail bosses are advising people to plan ahead if you're using the trains on friday as strike action is planned by some drivers. 16 operators are affected including southern, southeastern and swr — which has said the majority of its network will be closed. and rmt members are also taking industrial action on saturday. now onto the weather. good morning. last night's clear skies mean it's a bright start this morning, plenty of sunshine but today we do have a chance of one or two showers. the cloud will gradually start to bubble up through this morning. with that, we get the showers, just some scattered ones as we head through the afternoon, especially, but still some sunny spells and temperatures today reaching 20 celsius. that shower risk will fade into the evening, becoming dry and largely clear and under those clear skies, temperatures again sneaking back down into single figures. quite a fresh night, the minimum of eight celsius. a bright start tomorrow morning, short lived. you can see this cloud just moving in, that's our next front and that is going to bring more cloud and some quite unsettled conditions through thursday. the cloud spreads across, with it the rain arrives and that rain is really going to come and go through the course of thursday. perhaps a few sharper bursts mixed in there as well. temperatures tomorrow, a cool 17 or 18 celsius. high pressure builds towards friday and into the weekend so it's looking largely fine and dry and the temperatures a little warmer. that's it from me. more on the bbc news app and on bbc radio london throughout the morning. i'll be back in half an hour. good morning, welcome to breakfast with victoria valentine and jon kay. 0ur headlines. a single piece of flight data is blamed for the disruption that has left tens of thousands of passengers stranded. a police officer dies five days after being hit by a train while trying to help a distressed man on the tracks. the us state of florida braces itself for hurricane idalia, which is expected to hit land in the next few hours. cruising through. a british clean sweep on day two at the us open — with the six players in action all reaching the second round, including andy murray. after 20 years wowing crowds with tricks of the mind, derren brown is taking a step back with his new show and putting the magic in the hands of others. he'lljoin us on the sofa before 8. good morning. a day of sunshine and showers. tomorrow, some will see rain, then high pressure settles the weather down on friday and into the weekend. all the details later. it's wednedsday, 30th august. our main story. the head of the uk's national air traffic control service has blamed a single piece of flight data for the disruption that has left thousands of passengers stranded. martin rolfe says the issue was incredibly rare and he is confident it can be prevented from happening again. nats has faced heavy criticism from airlines for what happened. jon donnison reports. the waiting goes on. for a third day, air passengers are facing misery, delays and uncertainty, with many still scrambling to get home. ian smales from wakefield is stuck in france with his wife and son after his flight was cancelled on monday and no more available till friday. there were people in distress, you could hear people on the phone to other family members asking if they could transfer some money across to them. there were kids that were crying, people that were due to go to other places. everywhere there were people just looking in shock. everybody we spoke to just felt they were just left on their own. they are now hoping to fly to glasgow later today and drive south to yorkshire. and ian's family are not alone. with the cancellation we had last night, it was just airport officials that basically gave us a letter to say, you know, sort out your own accommodation, sort out your own flights. yes, yes, you'll get, you know, refunds for your flight, refunds — be able to claim for your accommodation, keep all your receipts. but it was basically thousands of people last night were left to fend for themselves. all this disruption was caused by a technical problem at air traffic control provider nats. the organisation's chief executive has now apologised and says changes have already been made. we understand the way the system didn't handle the data that we saw, the way it failed, if you like. so we have put in place already procedures to make sure that if that happens again, we can resolve it very, very quickly. that, though, will likely be little comfort for the hundreds of thousands of passengers whose flights have been cancelled or severely delayed and who now face a struggle to get any sort of compensation. jon is at heathrow. we know the cause but the impact goes on for passengers. haifa we know the cause but the impact goes on for passengers.— goes on for passengers. how are thins goes on for passengers. how are things looking? _ goes on for passengers. how are things looking? i— goes on for passengers. how are things looking? i do _ goes on for passengers. how are things looking? i do not - goes on for passengers. how are things looking? i do not think- goes on for passengers. how are things looking? i do not think it | goes on for passengers. how are | things looking? i do not think it is as bad as the past days but the disruption does go on. i think we are looking at numbers of around 2000 flights cancelled since monday affecting around 300,000 passengers. i looked at the departures board online at heathrow. not as bad as yesterday but still cancellations listed. i think the truth is it is not as bad for people flying out as it is for flying back because many are trying to get back for the start of the school year after their summer holiday. it is a busy time of year and they find they are trying to rebook and they are having to do it themselves and finding there is no availability. there might not be flights until the weekend, perhaps next week. all the while, people are racking up large hotel bills. when they get back they will have to try to claim the money back. they should be entitled to do so. at heathrow, the advice is do not come to the airport unless you have checked with the airline your flight is running. for the latest travel advice, check on the bbc website.— on the bbc website. there is a lot of iood on the bbc website. there is a lot of good information _ on the bbc website. there is a lot of good information there. - on the bbc website. there is a lot of good information there. thank| of good information there. thank you. we will hear from passengers who are stuck and catching up with them in the next half hour and speaking to martin rolfe. he is the top man at the national air traffic service. he will explain in detail what went wrong and can he guarantee it will not happen again? now, victoria has more of today's news. nottinghamshire police are flying flags at half mast in tribute to graham saville, a 46—year—old sergeant who died whilst trying to help a distressed man on railway tracks near newark last thursday. phil mackie reports. sergeant graham saville was responding to calls that a distressed man was on the tracks of the east coast main line near newark when he was hit by a train and critically injured last thursday evening. the man he saved, who's 29, is being treated in hospital after suffering an electric shock. flags are flying at half mast at nottinghamshire police stations and the chief constable kate meynell said news of sergeant saville's death was a complete shock. on thursday, graham went to work to protect the people from nottinghamshire from harm, and it's testament to his dedication and bravery that he was killed in the line of duty whilst trying to save the life of another man. his service and sacrifice will never be forgotten. among many other tributes, the prime minister rishi sunak tweeted that it was a terrible reminder of the work the police do every day to keep us safe. "my thoughts are with his family, friends and the whole of nottinghamshire police force." investigations have focused on the state of the track and embankment, as well as looking into whether the train could have been stopped sooner. british transport police said its inquiries were still in their early stages, and described the officer's death as devastating news. phil mackie, bbc news, nottinghamshire. the russian authorities say an airport in the northwestern city of pskov has been attacked by drones. russian state media says four military transport aircraft were damaged. two of the aircraft are reported to have burst into flames. the area is close to the border with estonia. the man who was chief executive of the nhs trust where nurse lucy letby murdered seven babies, wrote in a now—deleted blog about being "persuaded" to run a london trust by a senior nhs england boss. tony chambers resigned from the countess of chester nhs trust in september 2018. he has been accused of ignoring concerns raised by doctors who worked with letby. the property website zoopla says the number of houses sold in the uk this year is on track to be the lowest in more than a decade. around one million sales are set to be completed, down almost a fifth from last year. the foreign secretary, james cleverly, has arrived in beijing for the first visit to china by a senior minister in more than five years. the visit comes as mps on the foreign affairs committee accuse the uk government of having no clear policy towards the country because there was too much secrecy. here's our china corresspondent, stephen mcdonell. the governments of britain and china really want these talks to go ahead. but even after five years, because relations between the chinese government and western nations are certainly not smooth, you would expect at least some level of tensions when the uk foreign secretary sits down with his chinese counterpart, wang yi. and these are also not smooth waters to navigate forjames cleverly, because there are backbenchers in his own party who don't even want him here in the first place. they would argue that the chinese government is now beyond the point of no return when it comes to authoritarianism. so they want more so—called decoupling. that means less contact with china on all fronts. well, the uk foreign secretary would argue no, what's important is to have direct engagement with china, to smooth trade relations with this economic giant. he says he will raise human rights abuses. he says he will call on beijing to do more to pressure russia to end its invasion of ukraine, plus that there are these enormous global problems, like climate change, that simply cannot be solved without china's involvement. so he says because of china's size, because of its history, because of its place in the world, you just cannot ignore this country. the us state of florida is preparing for hurricane idalia, which is expected to make landfall later. the state governor has issued evacuation orders amid warnings of 16ft high storm surges in some coastal areas. 0ur correspondentjohn sudworth has sent this report from the city of tampa. the unusually warm conditions in the gulf of mexico have fuelled the hurricane. though it's not the wind speeds that pose the greatest threat to life, but the storm surge, as large amounts of sea water are forced into florida's low—lying coastal communities. with more than 20 counties under evacuation orders, for days, the authorities have been warning those residents unable to stay with friends or relatives to head for the emergency shelters. it's difficult for me to understand, because this is my first evacuation in my entire life and it's just difficult. in your neighbourhood, have some people chosen to stay, do you know? yes, some have chosen to stay. what do you think about that? i mean, it's up to them, it's their choice. but i highly recommend for them to evacuate because it's their safety, it's their lives on the line. forecasters have now adjusted the predicted track for this hurricane, taking it towards an area of the state of florida known as the big bend, where the florida panhandle bends round into the peninsula. and there with reports that dozens of people are still holding out in their homes, the authorities are making increasingly desperate appeals for them to heed the warnings and get out. if you have not evacuated, you need to do that right now. you need to drop what you're doing. you need to go to your room, pack up, pack your things and get to safety. if you need power, you need to get to safety. you need to evacuate right now. officials in florida are repeatedly using the word "catastrophic" to describe the potential impact. more than 5,000 national guard members are on standby, as are nearly 40,000 electrical engineers, with major power cuts expected. john sudworth, bbc news, florida. we have just heard we havejust heard in we have just heard in the last moments on breaking news from the us national hurricane center the hurricane has been upgraded to a category three. so stronger than previously measured. three out of five, the scale goes up to five. to understand more about what that means, we can speak to carol. it has strengthened from two up carol. it has strengthened from two up to three. how bad is that? it is pretty bad. we expect it to be a category four when it makes landfall. currently it is 160 miles south of tallahassee. gaining energy from the gulf of mexico which is very warm. in the north—east, 31 celsius, above average for the time of year. as it makes landfall, we expect a storm surge of 16 feet. if you think a double—decker bus is 15 foot, another foot on top. a huge well of water so catastrophic flooding, danger to life, the wind strengthening further, gusts already over 100 mph. strengthening further, gusts already over100 mph. it is strengthening further, gusts already over 100 mph. it is a deadly hurricane we are looking at and we will update you on what is happening. closerto will update you on what is happening. closer to home, things are quiet with sunny spells and scattered showers. not everyone will have a shower but some already have them. this is the low pressure driving the weather and everything is rotating around it so showers in the north and west of scotland, northern ireland, north—west england, wales and the southwest. some with cloud but many on a dry note with sunshine. showers continue in the far north of scotland. here it will feel cooler on the coast. there is the odd shower but mostly dry here. whale seeing showers on the north—westerly breeze. and the south—west of england. through the rest of the day, more fair cloud. we could see further showers, some in east anglia could be thundery. temperatures down on yesterday, 14-19 north temperatures down on yesterday, 14—19 north to south. 0vernight, clear skies to start. the next front coming in from the atlantic introducing cloud and rain and strengthening winds. ahead of this, clear skies in the north and east and some central parts of england. if you are looking at the blue supermoon, you might be lucky tonight. it will be cold where we have the clear skies. and milder where we have cloud and rain. tomorrow starting with sunshine but as the rain comes in, it will push northwards and eastwards. brighter skies across north—east england and much of scotland away from the west where we are looking at showers. temperatures, 14 in the north, 20 in the south. early on friday, the rain clears. high pressure across the uk. for most, dry, some cloud, sunny spells and a few showers. the temperature is 14—21. it looks very much like high pressure will remain through the weekend and into next week. thank you. we will get some tips on the blue supermoon and how to get a good picture of it in a few minutes. you try to do it on your phone. it is difficult. what is that? that is rubbish! campaigners say thousands of uk households risk facing hardship, as their benefits are reduced to pay off tax credit debts. each year, about a third of all households claiming tax credits receive more money than they should, mainly due to fluctuating work and family circumstances. in some cases, these debts only come to light when people are moved onto universal credit. 80,000 households owe the government £5,000 or more and 800,000 families had their benefits reduced last year, as part of a repayment plan. the government is trying to recover more than £1.5 billion in overpaid tax credits. it says it's committed to supporting those struggling with repayments, but campaigners say the automatic deductions are leaving some people unable to afford basics like food and rent. let's speak now to grace brownfield from the money advice trust. she has this advice. i think we can go live to grace. who can tell us what people need to know and do. good morning. if people are stuck in this situation, they are forced to repay and are already struggling, what should they do? if you are having a deduction from your benefit to repay an overpayment and it is not affordable, you can ask the department for work and pensions to reduce the amount they are taking and usually it is helpful if you show them a budget and why the deduction is not affordable and what if anything you can afford to repay. 0ur advisers can help you put together the budget. we have a budget tool online. there are options available if you are struggling with a deduction. hagar struggling with a deduction. how much of a problem _ struggling with a deduction. how much of a problem is this and how much of a problem is this and how much worse is it getting for people looking for advice? it is much worse is it getting for people looking for advice?— looking for advice? it is a significant _ looking for advice? it is a significant problem. i looking for advice? it is a i significant problem. 800,000 looking for advice? it is a _ significant problem. 800,000 people last year had deductions taken and because there is no affordability assessment, they often are leaving people without enough to live on. advisers are hearing from people every day skipping meals, people with health conditions who cannot afford to put the heating on because benefits are reduced to a level below what they need to pay for those costs. it is likely the problem could get worse because we are seeing more people move from tax credits to universal credit, where the deductions can be taken. it would be a brilliant time for the government to make changes ahead of the ramping up of the moving to universal credit. brute the ramping up of the moving to universal credit.— the ramping up of the moving to universal credit. we have someone, we can hear— universal credit. we have someone, we can hear from _ universal credit. we have someone, we can hear from them, _ universal credit. we have someone, we can hear from them, they - universal credit. we have someone, we can hear from them, they have i we can hear from them, they have struggled to pay those debts. i just struggled to pay those debts. i 'ust find it shocking. it i struggled to pay those debts. ijust find it shocking. it makes me very depressed — find it shocking. it makes me very depressed having to go to food banks — depressed having to go to food banks i— depressed having to go to food banks. i went to payday loans. and according _ banks. i went to payday loans. and according to — banks. i went to payday loans. and according to my doctor i am suffering _ according to my doctor i am suffering stress and anxiety. it is shockini. suffering stress and anxiety. it is shocking- a _ suffering stress and anxiety. it 3 shocking. a former nurse having to go for a payday loan because she cannot cover this. the government has said, we are committed to supporting those struggling adding that universal credit deductions help recover taxpayers' money when overpayments are made. the government says essentially they are trying to recover £1.5 billion that should not have been spent and need the money back. what is the fair way to do this? people are struggling but the money is owed. repaying debts to government _ but the money is owed. repaying debts to government is _ but the money is owed. repaying | debts to government is important but the money is owed. repaying i debts to government is important but it should not be done in the way that pushes people into financial difficulty which is what we are sadly seeing. we would like government to reduce the amount they take for debts such as these overpayments, giving people longer to repay and making sure it is done in an affordable way.— in an affordable way. thank you. if ou are in an affordable way. thank you. if you are struggling _ in an affordable way. thank you. if you are struggling with _ in an affordable way. thank you. if you are struggling with this - in an affordable way. thank you. if you are struggling with this and i in an affordable way. thank you. if you are struggling with this and it | you are struggling with this and it affects you, there is available information on the website. plenty of advice on work and money and debt and all things like that on the business pages. a super blue moon will be visible over the uk tomorrow night, treating stargazers to a phenomenon that will only happen once this year. unlike its name suggests, a blue moon does not describe its colour, but instead refers to the second full moon in one calendar month — an event which only happens once every two or three years. fiona lamdin explains how you can capture the perfect photograph. it's just after midnight and we are out stargazing, finding out how to take the perfect picture of the blue moon, regardless of what kit you have. andy smith is an astro—photographer. he has been taking photos of our night skies for 20 years. here is the last blue moon andy captured. but despite its name, it is not actually blue. it refers to the second full moon in a month. this is an extra—special supermoon this month because we have had two moons that have been at apogee, which means they are very close to earth. we are looking at a distance of 222,000 miles, roughly, whereas the average distance to the moon is 250,000. this is what we are going to see over the next day or so. other than a huge amount of patience, what are your top tips for getting that perfect shot? you have got to decide what type of picture you want. do you want a landscape type of picture or do you want a close—up of the moon itself? you might wantjust an horizon with some hills, or trees, or even buildings. that might be part of your composition. if you are in the back garden, it might be a neighbour's tree or house. it depends on what you want to make the picture. can my phone take a good shot? absolutely. get your mobile phone. you want somewhere stable to actually hold it. then what we want to do is get the moon in the centre, if you can. pull this light symbol down and then we press the take button. our biggest problem right now — the moon is in a battle with the clouds. but after hours of waiting, we finally saw her. and assuming it's not cloudy, this is what you're hoping for. this blue supermoon will peak in the early hours of thursday morning, just after 2am. and if you are weighing up if it's worth setting your alarm, this specific phenomenon, the second supermoon in a single month, won't happen again until 2037. that's in 14 years' time. it isa it is a choice of getting up at three in the morning or waiting another decade or more. 14 years. what is worse? we will leave it to them tomorrow to show us the pictures on their phones. you need to put down the light sensor on the phone. 2.45. yes. in the east of the country apparently it is better so don't bother if you are on the west side. nearly all types of carpet can be upcycled and made into new products, from sports pitches to insulation — but currently most of it ends up in landfill. ben is at a facility in northampton hoping to change that. good morning. good morning from the uk's first carpet recycling factory. half a million tonnes of carpet is thrown out every single year and here they sort through it, check the material can be recycled, cut it up, and turn it into this. a lot of different materials and fabrics, not much use to anyone, but it gets turned into plastic pellets and can be used to make car bumpers, roof tiles. i will show you machines that do the process later. first, the news where you are. a very good morning and welcome to bbc london, i'm thomas magill. cameras used to enforce the nearly expanded ultra low emission zone are continuing to be vandalised. the latest incident was reported in bromley where four cameras were painted red in protest. the mayor insists it's needed to tackle air pollution. a £160 million scrappage scheme is available for all londoners to claim a maximum of £2,000 per vehicle. bob and his daughter are among the thousands of londoners who have applied but says the process is slow. she applied last monday, the 21st, the first day of the scrappage scheme, and up to today we've heard nothing. and for more on the arguments for and against the expansion of ulez, head over to our website. campaigners have occupied a block of empty flats owned by the ministry ofjustice in islington and are demanding they are given to families who need homes in the borough. the block used to be occupied by prison officers at pentonville, but has been vacant for a decade. the ministry ofjustice says an application to turn the site into new housing was turned down by the council and they're continuing to look for the best way to use the building. campaigners say around 15,000 families are on the housing waiting list in islington. let's see how the tube is running at this time of the morning. there's a good service on all of the network. and just a reminder, rail bosses are advising people to plan ahead if you're intending to use the trains on friday as strike action is planned by some drivers. 16 operators are affected including southern, southeastern and swr which has said the majority of its network will be closed. and rmt members are also taking industrial action on saturday. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. last night's clear skies mean it's a bright start this morning, plenty of sunshine but today we do have a chance of one or two showers. the cloud will gradually start to bubble up through this morning. with that we get the showers, just some scattered ones as we head through the afternoon, especially, but still some sunny spells and temperatures today reaching 20 celsius. that shower risk will fade into the evening, becoming dry and largely clear and under those clear skies, temperatures again sneaking back down into single figures. quite a fresh night, the minimum of eight celsius. a bright start tomorrow morning, short lived. you can see this cloud just moving in, that's our next front and that is going to bring more cloud and some quite unsettled conditions through thursday. the cloud spreads across, with it the rain arrives and that rain is really going to come and go through the course of thursday. perhaps a few sharper bursts mixed in there as well. temperatures tomorrow, a cool 17 or 18 celsius. high pressure builds towards friday and into the weekend so it's looking largely fine and dry and the temperatures a little warmer. that's it from me, more on the bbc news app and on bbc radio london throughout the morning. i'll be back in half an hour but for now let's cross back to jon and victoria. hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and victoria valentine. more now on our main story this morning, as airlines and passengers try to get back on track following the problems with air traffic control. some details have been provided on exactly what went wrong, but questions now turn to how to prevent this happening again in future. we're joined now by the chief executive of national air traffic control service, martin rolfe. good morning, i imagine it has been a nightmarish 48 hours also for you. can you explain to a really simple terms for those of us who are not au fait with air traffic technicalities, what went wrong? thank you for having me on. before i do that, obviously you talked about it being a nightmare, i absolutely appreciate this has been a nightmare for those people affected and i want to sincerely apologise to everything a person. i know how frustrating it is, how distressing it is, and we absolutely understand that that is not something we want to happen. these are incredibly rare events. that doesn't make it any less distressing but they are incredibly rare. we handle 2 million flights a year thickly and efficiently and very occasionally have a problem and very occasionally have a problem and very occasionally have a problem and very occasionally it is of a magnitude that causes this problem. in this instance it was caused by some data that our systems were not expecting, they are designed to fail in a way that means it goes to manual processing because that is a safer way of doing things. it's not ideal in moving people quickly but it is a safe and that our overriding priority, and that's what we have been working on since our system is back up and running on monday at 2:30pm. back up and running on monday at 2:30m. , , ., �* , . 2:30pm. they you weren't expecting, what does mean? _ 2:30pm. they you weren't expecting, what does mean? we _ 2:30pm. they you weren't expecting, what does mean? we -- _ 2:30pm. they you weren't expecting, what does mean? we -- the - 2:30pm. they you weren't expecting, what does mean? we -- the data i 2:30pm. they you weren't expecting, j what does mean? we -- the data you what does mean? we —— the data you were expecting, what does that mean? we are still investigating, we are expecting to report on monday but our early indications are that we receive millions of flight plans every year, that plans where the aircraft is going and what route it is going and what height it wants to fly at. one of those came in and was not sufficiently studied, formatted and described in a way which made it very difficult for us to process which meet in those circumstances, if all other things fail, if they cannot work out how to present data to the controller safely, we revert to the controller safely, we revert to manual processes and that allows us to safely get everybody to the destinations. it us to safely get everybody to the destinations.— us to safely get everybody to the destinations. , , ., ., ., , destinations. it seems extraordinary to me that one _ destinations. it seems extraordinary to me that one little _ destinations. it seems extraordinary to me that one little bit _ destinations. it seems extraordinary to me that one little bit of _ destinations. it seems extraordinary to me that one little bit of flight i to me that one little bit of flight data being incorrect can throw the entire airspace of the country out for days. so entire airspace of the country out for da s. ~' entire airspace of the country out for da s. ~ ., ., for days. so i think there are a coule for days. so i think there are a couple of _ for days. so i think there are a couple of things _ for days. so i think there are a couple of things there. - for days. so i think there are a couple of things there. i i for days. so i think there are aj couple of things there. i would absolutely agree it is extraordinary, it hardly ever happens in the last time anything of this nature in this scale of destruction happened was in 2014. it is extraordinary and rare. as i said before, you are absolutely right around the disruption, our system to around the disruption, our system to a back up and operating at about 2:30pm on monday, a couple of hours after the incident was detected, but at this time of year, the entire aviation system working at complete capacity because everybody is flying. so that leads to the length of time it takes to get the entire system back up and running. passengers are frustrated and try to change their plans and they are out of pocket and wondering how to get their money back. lots of airlines are angry about this because they are angry about this because they are the ones who have to reschedule. some of them pointing fingers at you guys and saying, you should be held responsible, you should be compensating people here. brute responsible, you should be compensating people here. we fully take responsibility _ compensating people here. we fully take responsibility for _ compensating people here. we fully take responsibility for the _ compensating people here. we fully take responsibility for the failure i take responsibility for the failure on monday and have worked incredibly hard since then to make sure we have had an entirely normal service. 0bviously had an entirely normal service. obviously there are very well established processes about how passengers are looked after and that is set out by people like simon cowell that the secretary of state. we —— people like simon calder. people not being able to go on holiday or go home, they cannot get money from airlines or insurances and they might want money from you. i can absolutely understand everybody�*s frustration and i sincerely apologise for that, we obviously aim to provide an excellent service all year round every single day, and we mostly do. in terms of those passengers, they have rights and that has been well explained, there are very well established mechanisms for how those passages are supported and they should not be out of pocket as a result of this. i should not be out of pocket as a result of this.— result of this. i guess this is a iuestion result of this. i guess this is a question of — result of this. i guess this is a question of confidence, i result of this. i guess this is a l question of confidence, people result of this. i guess this is a i question of confidence, people will be thinking about future holidays and thinking, i don't want to risk it, face this kind of disruption myself. can you reassure them that after what you have learned in the last couple of days, nothing like this can happen again? obviously we have worked — this can happen again? obviously we have worked incredibly _ this can happen again? obviously we have worked incredibly hard - this can happen again? obviously we have worked incredibly hard since . this can happen again? obviously we \ have worked incredibly hard since we restored the service on monday to make sure that this type of event cannot happen again. we operate a complex system, it is a system which covers the entire country and half of the north atlantic ocean and we work extremely hard to make sure that failures like this or any failures that cause disruption to passengers is minimised. we are confident this cannot happen again and we are absolutely confident and everybody should be confident that whatever happens, we will always keep aircraft safe and make sure passengers get to their destination eventually safely. we aim to do it on time, but if all else fails, we will absolute prioritise safety, thatis will absolute prioritise safety, that is what we are here for. thank ou for that is what we are here for. thank you forjoining _ that is what we are here for. thank you forjoining us. _ the disruption has meant thousands of passengers are trying to find alternative ways to get to where they need to be. serena hamilton was supposed to be flying from belfast to newcastle for an important hospital appointment to check on her progress following a heart transplant. shejoins us now. thank you so much forjoining us. we really appreciate you speaking to us here on breakfast. explain what happened to you. i here on breakfast. explain what happened to vom— here on breakfast. explain what happened to yon-— happened to you. i was to fly to newcastle _ happened to you. i was to fly to newcastle on _ happened to you. i was to fly to newcastle on monday _ happened to you. i was to fly to newcastle on monday for - happened to you. i was to fly to newcastle on monday for an - newcastle on monday for an appointment on tuesday morning, i got a message on my app to say that the flight was delayed, at three o'clock in the morning, which is ridiculous because flights don't fly in the early hours of the morning. i phoned easyjet, it took me six times to get through to them, twice i was cut off. when i did get through, the lady told me to carry on with my plans and go ahead to the airport. i went to the airport and booked into special assistance which i normally do, and the lady at special assistance told me that my flight had been cancelled. that was the first i heard that the flight was cancelled, husband check to the board and said it was cancelled. 50 we had board and said it was cancelled. so we had no knowledge of the cancelled flight until you are already at the airport, and it was a special assistance who told you. did you have any idea why, where you told why? have any idea why, where you told wh ? ., ., , , ., why? no, i had briefly looked on the internets to — why? no, i had briefly looked on the internets to see _ why? no, i had briefly looked on the internets to see that _ why? no, i had briefly looked on the internets to see that there _ why? no, i had briefly looked on the internets to see that there was - internets to see that there was disruption, with the airlines, and i just thought it was some sort of disruption, i didn't know what was going on. i took the ladies word, to say to go to the airport which we did. the special assistance lady told me it had been cancelled. there was no easyjet customer service to go to, there is drop—off where you checkin go to, there is drop—off where you check in your bag, and there was a massive, massive queue of people trying to get further flights as well. that was the first message that i got through, at 20 past four, which i got when i got back. what which i got when i got back. what im act which i got when i got back. what impact hasn't _ which i got when i got back. what impact hasn't had _ which i got when i got back. what impact hasn't had on _ which i got when i got back. what impact hasn't had on you? -- - which i got when i got back. what impact hasn't had on you? —— has that had on you? i impact hasn't had on you? -- has that had on you?— impact hasn't had on you? -- has that had on you? i was meant to be at hosital that had on you? i was meant to be at heapital for _ that had on you? i was meant to be at hospital for an _ that had on you? i was meant to be at hospital for an angiogram - at hospital for an angiogram yesterday morning. at half past seven in the morning, and the next flight was at that time so i could not take that flight either which was delayed as well. so it means now that i spent all day yesterday on the phone trying to contact my hospital to make them aware that i wasn't fit to travel. and now i i have to wait for them to contact the relevant department to get a further test, a very important test because this is a yearly angiogram you have after having a transplant. it tells you how your heart is working, and if it's going well, i do hope that it is. but you still have that in the back of your head, is there something wrong or isn't there? you just wait for the good news hopefully that you get when you're ct comes. and being seen in belfast in six months but that has put that back now. , , ., ., . ~' in six months but that has put that back now. , , ., ., ., ~ ., back now. they you for talking to us, i back now. they you for talking to us. i hepe _ back now. they you for talking to us. i hepe that — back now. they you for talking to us, i hope that you _ back now. they you for talking to us, i hope that you get _ back now. they you for talking to us, i hope that you get through l back now. they you for talking to | us, i hope that you get through to the hospital and managed to get that crucial scan but back in your diary and rescheduled for you. we hope that the stress dissipates around your condition, thank you for your time. ., �* . ., your condition, thank you for your time. ., �* _, ., ~ i., , time. you're welcome, thank you very much. keepin keep in touch and let us know if you are affected by these ongoing delays as well. g ., are affected by these ongoing delays as well. , ., , are affected by these ongoing delays as well. g ., , , as well. john is here with the sport this morning- _ as well. john is here with the sport this morning. a _ as well. john is here with the sport this morning. a lot _ as well. john is here with the sport this morning. a lot to _ as well. john is here with the sport this morning. a lot to celebrate. i this morning. a lot to celebrate. yes, seven british players in the opening round in the us open, including andy murray and all seven have made it through, brilliantly. some days we talk about early exits were british players, not today. and interestingly, everyone won them in straight sets. what a clean sweep. stop there! a really memorable day for british tennis with the six players in action yesterday all making it through, tojoin lily miyazaki in the second round. andy murray one of those, straight out of the blocks against frenchman corentin moutet of france, winning the first set 6-2. but moutet threatened to end that perfect run of sets, wasting two set points in the second, before murray held his nerve to win and then take the third. he'll play grigor dimitrov next. yeah, i thought i did well. difficult match against a very skilful opponent. a very different game style to pretty much all of the guys on the tour now. and, yeah, there were a lot of long points and tricky moments out there, you know, a lot of stuff going on there on the court so i did well to get it done in three sets. cameron norrie another one through. he beat alexander shevchenko, winning injust over an hour and a half and will be hoping to progress further than the fourth round, which he reached last year. the british number two jack draper saw off world number 102 radu albot with ease. that was before dan evans made it four british men into round two. katie boulterjoining that list of brits, beating diane parry of france to reach the second round at the us open for the first time. as did jodie burrage, the relief she managed to continue that clean sweep, and plays aryna sabalenka next. what a night for salford fc who beat leeds, two divisions above them. that was the biggest upset in the second round of the league cup last night. a match settled by the dreaded penalties, salford holding their nerve, much to the delight of the players and co—owner nicky butt, who was watching alongside former manchester united team—mate roy keane. 9—8 it was settled on penalties after it finished 1—1 in normal time. perhaps no surprise to hear manchester city's erling haaland won the pfa men's players' player of the year award. it follows that astonishing break—out season in the premier league last term — 52 goals in all competitions. bukayo saka and laurenjames, alongside him, won the young player of the year awards while rachel daly won the women's player of the year. tonight, it's a huge night for rangers. they're in the netherlands to face psv eindhoven in the second leg of their play—off. upfor grabs, a place in the champions league group stages for the winner. with the tie poised at two—all, rangers manager michael beale is happy with his side being labelled underdogs. listen, we expect it, the other team needs to be confident, they're in their home stadium. and the first game is a draw, we don't read too much into that. we know that we have to perform, ifeel, better than we performed last week if we want to go through. this team is due a big performance so it's there, the opportunity for us is clear. england one—day cricket captain jos buttler admits he's feeling and finally not the shorts we're used to seeing harry kane in. the england captain has been embracing life in munich, since making the move to bayern. and asdie from scoring goals, he's been donning lederhosen, the traditional bavarian outfits, drinking beer and eating german sausage. they think he wears it well? there you go, the legs in all their glory. what an outfit. we were thinking it was the lure of silverware that drew him to munich, perhaps not. it is him to munich, perhaps not. it is the beer- — him to munich, perhaps not. it is the beer. and _ him to munich, perhaps not. it is the beer. and tight _ him to munich, perhaps not. it is the beer. and tight embroidered | the beer. and tight embroidered ants. the beer. and tight embroidered pants- and _ the beer. and tight embroidered pants. and the _ the beer. and tight embroidered pants. and the pasty _ the beer. and tight embroidered pants. and the pasty sausage. i the beer. and tight embroidered - pants. and the pasty sausage. what a combo, _ pants. and the pasty sausage. what a combo, who _ pants. and the pasty sausage. what a combo, who could say no? | pants. and the pasty sausage. what a combo, who could say no?— combo, who could say no? i would have thought _ combo, who could say no? i would have thought he _ combo, who could say no? i would have thought he was _ combo, who could say no? i would have thought he was a _ combo, who could say no? i would have thought he was a full - combo, who could say no? i would have thought he was a full english | have thought he was a full english man, ratherthan have thought he was a full english man, rather than a full german, they 90, man, rather than a full german, they go, well done. man, rather than a full german, they go. well done-— man, rather than a full german, they go, well done. where are yours, jon? i can't believe — go, well done. where are yours, jon? i can't believe they _ go, well done. where are yours, jon? i can't believe they got _ go, well done. where are yours, jon? i can't believe they got him _ go, well done. where are yours, jon? i can't believe they got him to - go, well done. where are yours, jon? i can't believe they got him to do - i can't believe they got him to do it. j i can't believe they got him to do it. ., , ., , , it. i imagined his mates! -- his -hone it. i imagined his mates! -- his phone is— it. i imagined his mates! -- his phone is full— it. i imagined his mates! -- his phone is full of— it. i imagined his mates! -- his phone is full of messages - it. i imagined his mates! -- his phone is full of messages from | it. i imagined his mates! -- his. phone is full of messages from his mates! now, there's nothing more irritating than someone mispronouncing the place where you live. a train operator has had to re—record 3a announcements after getting them wrong. so let's have a go this morning. would you pronounce it like this... slaithwaite. orlike this? slough—it. the answer was the second one. i wouldn't know. so it's... slough—it. let's try another. do you say it like this... mossley hill. orlike this? muzzely hill. it was the first one. they sounded really similar to me. it was the first one. northern trains said it had updated its announcements but the company faced a backlash for still getting some of them wrong. james vincent has this report. welcome aboard this northern service to... duduth. dudworth. dodworth. welcome aboard this northern service to... wumwell. not womb—well? no, wumwell. don't get a place name wrong, first rule ofjournalism school. people hate it. but northern trains are going back to the recording studio. because they got over 30 place names wrong, they've had to go and record them all over again. this has come from our customers, basically, pride in their own pronunciations. and i don't come from yorkshire, so it's been a learning curve for me as well. even if you are from round here, you can still get it very wrong. yeah, getting some yorkshire place names can be tricky. hello to people in slaithwaite. yeah, it's "slough—it," mate. oh. and people in sowerby bridge... "sawbry bridge" is how to say it. oh, sorry. and people in thurnscoe as well, hello to you... "thurnscuh." blimey! how did you get them wrong in the first place? surely you need to be getting out there doing your research. there's lots of different dialects. it's really, i mean, i started working for northern a couple of years ago, just travelling in and out of work on my first trip into leeds, pulled into what i thought was slaithwaite and then heard "slough—it" and thought, wow! up the line, dodsworth has become "duddeth". but not everybody agrees. duddeth. interesting, because some people are telling me dodsworth. duddeth. dod—worth and i'm from cudworth. but is it not "cuddeth?" it's not cuddeth. oh, no. bbc english, in't it? well, i don't think i do that. how do you pronounce this village? oh, well, i say dod—worth, but i'm not from around here. people get annoyed enough at trains as it is and getting the name of their town or village wrong, well, it's going to annoy them even more. people get quite frustrated and annoyed. the pronunciation of the place names of where people come from is very dear to them and it is a kind of shibboleth, a kind of password or code to show that you know that you're from the local area. it's very important to get all place names right and we do get told off by you if we get them wrong. we asked you to tell us the place names near you that people always mis—pronounce. send the little video about how people pronounce it and how you would like it to be pronounced and we will correct the record but we have had tongues coming in. lots coming in from frome in somerset. yes, it is froome! it's the same as the weather, we get it wrong as well sometimes, you pronounce it as you see them! he would never get anything wrong! —— you would get nothing wrong! these are the temperatures you can expect as you step out. many of us in double figures but in rural parts, temperatures fell to between four and 5 degrees. a chilly start. this morning we will hang onto some showers especially across western areas. as the cloud bubbles up, that will spark a few more showers. we will spark a few more showers. we will not all see them but they are going to be knocking around. a few in northern ireland and england and we will keep a peppering across the far north of scotland. with the breeze coming in from the north it will feel cooler. the showers continue in east anglia, they could be heavy with the odd rumble of thunder. temperatures ranging from 15 in the north to 20 in the south. through the evening and overnight we are starting with clear skies, showers fade, but then we have got liquor cloud and rain coming in from the south—west. if you are hoping to see the super moon, a good chance with clear skies in south and eastern areas but wrap up warm because it will be chilly. these are the temperatures in town and cities but not so in the west with the cloud and rain. tomorrow the main advances north and east, does not make a huge amount of progress and in eastern areas we hang on to the sunshine for the longest. a pleasant day in north—east england and scotland, temperature —wise tomorrow, we are looking at the dizzy heights of between 15 in the north to 20 as we go towards the south—east. thank you. he pronounced ramsgate wrong. i’m thank you. he pronounced ramsgate wronu. �* , ., thank you. he pronounced ramsgate wroni. �* , ., , illusionist derren brown can make you predict the future and even forget your own name, and he's best known for making the impossible possible. do you remember convincing middle managers to commit armed robbery? russian roulette on tv? he managers to commit armed robbery? russian roulette on tv?— russian roulette on tv? he has done it all. now he's created a brand new show called unbelievable, which is coming to the west end. before we speak to him, let's take a look at his most recent tour, showman. listen carefully. you know what it's like to forget some really obvious bit of information, something you know, that you know, and it can happen with your own name. so on the count of three, you will forget your name. all knowledge, all concept, all memory of that name will have gone. this will only be for a few minutes, i'll bring it back, so it's perfectly comfortable. when i say three, your hands will pop apart and separate. and as they do that name too willjust come apart and separate from your mind. and the harder you struggle in vain to try to remember whatever it was, the more impossible it is to recall. on the count of three, you forget your name, now. one, two... three, your hands come apart. your eyes open, the name's gone, think back, try to remember what it was, it's the weirdest feeling, try and remember it. the harder you try, the further it goes. then turn to the person next to you and try and say it. nothing comes out. nothing comes out, itjust sticks. don't tell them, don't tell them what their names are. derrenjoins us now. derren, i must say, you just sat down and i shook your hand and i got a bit freaked out. am i going to remember my name? is he going to play tricks on me? do you find that when people meet you for the first time, and they are a bit frightened of meeting you? i time, and they are a bit frightened of meeting you?— of meeting you? i think so, yeah. it's so wrong _ of meeting you? i think so, yeah. it's so wrong because _ of meeting you? i think so, yeah. it's so wrong because i'm - of meeting you? i think so, yeah. it's so wrong because i'm not - of meeting you? i think so, yeah. it's so wrong because i'm not like that in real life at all. it would be unbearable for everybody. it's a strange thing. i have a couple of friends that i found out when they first met me, it took a few times before they relaxed. maybe it is a thing. 50 before they relaxed. maybe it is a thin._ ,., before they relaxed. maybe it is a thini, ., �* before they relaxed. maybe it is a thini. ., �* ., thing. so you aren't running round trickini thing. so you aren't running round tricking people — thing. so you aren't running round tricking people and _ thing. so you aren't running round tricking people and playing - tricking people and playing practicaljokes. i�*m tricking people and playing practicaljokes.— tricking people and playing practicaljokes. tricking people and playing iractical'okes. ., , ., �* practical 'okes. i'm really not, i'm iuite practicaljokes. i'm really not, i'm quite shy- — practicaljokes. i'm really not, i'm quite shy. that's _ practicaljokes. i'm really not, i'm quite shy. that's really _ quite shy. that's really interesting. _ quite shy. that's really interesting. i- quite shy. that's really interesting. i wonder l quite shy. that's really - interesting. i wonder whether quite shy. that's really _ interesting. i wonder whether that is part— interesting. i wonder whether that is part of— interesting. i wonder whether that is part of your decision to stand back— is part of your decision to stand back from — is part of your decision to stand back from being centre stage will sell so _ back from being centre stage will sell so we — back from being centre stage will sell so we saw you doing the show there. _ sell so we saw you doing the show there. you — sell so we saw you doing the show there, you are involved in the new show— there, you are involved in the new show but — there, you are involved in the new show but not in it. it�*s there, you are involved in the new show but not in it.— show but not in it. it's a chilly really liberating. _ show but not in it. it's a chilly really liberating. that - show but not in it. it's a chilly really liberating. that show . show but not in it. it's a chilly - really liberating. that show toured for a long time showman, and it overlapped with writing this new show unbelievable so i wanted a break. we had spent 20 years, the three of us, three of us make our shows, trying to do something with mind—reading and now we are trying to do the same with conjuring. this is a fun family show, it isn't dark and scary which people think my stuff is, i don't know why they think that. it's a lovely fun thing, it's really liberating, not having to get up and do it but also play with ideas that i would not normally do like magic magic. it's really enjoyable. do like magic magic. it's really enjoyable-— do like magic magic. it's really en'o able. ., ., . enjoyable. you are calling it magic maiic, but enjoyable. you are calling it magic magic, but there _ enjoyable. you are calling it magic magic, but there are _ enjoyable. you are calling it magic magic, but there are no _ enjoyable. you are calling it magic magic, but there are no actual - magic, but there are no actual magicians in it? so how did it work? we auditioned for people who are actors and musicians so they could bring a lot of other skills to the show. it's a really interesting way of doing it. and the result is that, first of all, they can do a bunch of stuff which i cannot do, there they are. it's sort of ego lists which can get in the way of magic, the ego of some performers who think they are better or cleverer than you. there is none of that. these are people with a much wider range of skills. they didn't come to this show with a hollowed of pre—kinship —— whole load of preconceptions, this isn'tjust magicians doing the act which is what magic shows have been forever. it's a really eye—opening and fresh way of doing it. wejust wanted eye—opening and fresh way of doing it. we just wanted to start again with what a magic show was. fine it. we just wanted to start again with what a magic show was. are you missini it with what a magic show was. are you missing it secretly, _ with what a magic show was. are you missing it secretly, if _ with what a magic show was. are you missing it secretly, if you _ with what a magic show was. are you missing it secretly, if you are - with what a magic show was. are you missing it secretly, if you are in - missing it secretly, if you are in the wings and telling them what to do? you must think, i can do this. it is nerve—racking, we opened, we are in manchester this week and then in the west end. we opened in colchester and it was nerve—racking because if you are on stage you are in control of what you are doing, if things go wrong, you can work things out, but when you are sat in the audience watching people do the show that you have written and directed, and then things start to go wrong, it's absolutely terrible because you can't do anything. you can't help. that was nerve—racking, and unexpected. apart from that, it's very lovely, going, you guys do it. and they bring things to it which i wouldn't and that's really nice. 50. wouldn't and that's really nice. so, what in your— wouldn't and that's really nice. so, what in your view makes good magic? what is a good magic show? it’s what is a good magic show? it's reall what is a good magic show? it�*s really interesting because the trouble with magic is that if you can click your fingers and make anything happen, that's really bad drama. that's like being a god figure, that's not really dramatic or interesting. what we find interesting our heroes, people that struggle. so i think it's the lack of humanity that gets in the way. when magicians are humans and you can connect to the human being, i think that makes all the difference. it's something i try and do with my shows and definitely with this show it's a big part of it. and also taking something which is essentially a bit childish and dishonest like magic and making it grown—up and honest and have something to say, this show is about something, notjust the trick. those things can really help. it's a wonderful feeling when it's done well, wonder and astonishment in all those good points.— those good points. terrible feeling when it's done _ those good points. terrible feeling when it's done badly. _ those good points. terrible feeling when it's done badly. when - those good points. terrible feeling when it's done badly. when it's - those good points. terrible feeling 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fine. we | we survived, no tricks. all fine. we think! derren's show 'unbelievable' opens at the criterion theatre on the 19th september. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. beanie a very good morning and welcome to bbc london. i'm thomas magill. cameras used to enforce the nearly expanded ultra low emission zone are continuing to be vandalised. the latest incident was reported in bromley where four cameras were painted red in protest. the mayor insists the zone is needed to tackle air pollution. a £160 million scrappage scheme is still available for all londoners who can claim a maximum of £2,000 per vehicle. campaigners have occupied a block of empty flats owned by the ministry ofjustice in islington demanding they are given to families who need homes in the borough. the block used to be occupied by prison officers at pentonville, but has been vacant for a decade. the ministry ofjustice says an application to turn the site into new housing was turned down by the council and they're continuing to look for the best way to use the building. let's see how the tube is running. there's a good service on all of the network. now onto the weather. it'll start dry and sunny — but then scattered showers will move in this afternoon with some thunder in places. top temperature of 20c. that's it from me. more on the bbc news app and on bbc radio london throughout the morning. i'll be back in half an hour. good morning, welcome to breakfast with victoria valentine and jon kay. our headlines. the man in charge of the uk's air traffic control service tells breakfast the system is safe and the issue which has caused widespread disruption is isolated. we fully take responsibility for the failure on monday. and have worked incredibly hard since then to ensure we have an entirely normal service. a police officer dies five days after being hit by a train while trying to help a distressed man on the tracks. we on the tracks. throw out half a million tonnes of we throw out half a million tonnes of carpet every year. good morning from the first carpet recycling factory. ifind out how from the first carpet recycling factory. i find out how that get shredded by the machines and ultimately is turned into plastic pellets instead of going into landfill. a british clean sweep on day two at the us open — with the six players in action all reaching the second round, including andy murray. it may still be august but christmas decorations are definitely out. i am at a garden centre in yorkshire where we will find out how some businesses are tackling a slump in sales of garden furniture after a 5°99y sales of garden furniture after a soggy summer. thankfully no snow in the forecast. we have a mixture of sunshine and showers. tomorrow some will see rain, then high pressure settles things down on friday and the weekend. all the details later. it's wednedsday, 30th august. our main story. the head of the uk's national air traffic control service has blamed a single piece of flight data for the disruption that has left thousands of passengers stranded. martin rolfe says the issue was incredibly rare and he is confident it can be prevented from happening again. nats has faced heavy criticism from airlines for what happened. jon donnison reports. the waiting goes on. for a third day, air passengers are facing misery, delays and uncertainty, with many still scrambling to get home. ian smales from wakefield is stuck in france with his wife and son after his flight was cancelled on monday and no more available till friday. there were people in distress, you could hear people on the phone to other family members asking if they could transfer some money across to them. there were kids that were crying, people that were due to go to other places. everywhere there were people just looking in shock. everybody we spoke to just felt they were just left on their own. they are now hoping to fly to glasgow later today and drive south to yorkshire. and ian's family are not alone. with the cancellation we had last night, it was just airport officials that basically gave us a letter to say, you know, sort out your own accommodation, sort out your own flights. yes, yes, you'll get, you know, refunds for your flight, refunds — be able to claim for your accommodation, keep all your receipts. but it was basically thousands of people last night were left to fend for themselves. all this disruption was caused by a technical problem at air traffic control provider nats. the organisation's chief executive has now apologised and says changes have already been made. in this instance we know it was caused by data the systems were not expecting. they are designed to fail in a way which means we revert to manual processing so controllers do more themselves, because that is a safer way of doing things. it is not ideal in terms of moving people quickly but it is safe and that is our overriding priority. that, though, will likely be little comfort for the hundreds of thousands of passengers whose flights have been cancelled or severely delayed and who now face a struggle to get any sort of compensation. jon is at heathrow. this disruption goes on. we are looking at more than 2000 flights that have been cancelled since monday, affecting around 300,000 passengers. it does go on. two days after the outage. i looked at the departures board at heathrow. it looks better than yesterday but still cancellations and delays. in manchester, it looks a little better, but still delays listed on the departure board this morning. i think it is worse for people heading back to the uk than for those flying out because many people are coming back after the summer holiday, trying to get back in time for the start of the new school year. many flights are already booked up. and you have people who are having to scramble, do it themselves, look online, trying to find flights and not getting availability possibly until as late as next week. and all the while racking up huge hotel bills, having to pay for meals. when they get back to the uk they will have to try to claim that money back from the airlines. the advice from heathrow and other airports in the country is to check with the airline before you head to the airport. we have details of all the travel advice on the bbc website. there is advice on the bbc website. there is a iood life advice on the bbc website. there is a good life page _ advice on the bbc website. there is a good life page constantly - updated on the website. victoria has more of the news. nottinghamshire police are flying flags at half mast in tribute to graham saville, a 46—year—old sergeant who died whilst trying to help a distressed man on railway tracks near newark last thursday. phil mackie reports. sergeant graham saville was responding to calls that a distressed man was on the tracks of the east coast main line near newark when he was hit by a train and critically injured last thursday evening. the man he saved, who's 29, is being treated in hospital after suffering an electric shock. flags are flying at half mast at nottinghamshire police stations and the chief constable kate meynell said news of sergeant saville's death was a complete shock. on thursday, graham went to work to protect the people from nottinghamshire from harm, and it's testament to his dedication and bravery that he was killed in the line of duty whilst trying to save the life of another man. his service and sacrifice will never be forgotten. among many other tributes, the prime minister rishi sunak tweeted that it was a terrible reminder of the work the police do every day to keep us safe. "my thoughts are with his family, friends and the whole of nottinghamshire police force." investigations have focused on the state of the track and embankment, as well as looking into whether the train could have been stopped sooner. british transport police said its inquiries were still in their early stages, and described the officer's death as devastating news. phil mackie, bbc news, nottinghamshire. the russian authorities say an airport in the north—western city of pskov has been attacked by drones. we're joined now by our russia editor, steve rosenberg. what more do we know about this attack? this follows a pattern. in recent weeks we have seen an increase in the number of drone attacks in russia, sometimes deep inside russian territory. what we have seen over the past ours is a large—scale drone attack targeting six regions of russia and also russian occupied crimea, although it is not clear how much damage has been done by the attacks, russian officials say most rents have been shut down. the most significant attack appears to be in pskov, north—west russia, where in the airport was attacked. initially official said four military transport had been damaged which was revised down to two. another region is being targeted that borders ukraine and those drone attacks continued until the morning and the tv tower was targeted. there is an irony about this that president putin, when he started the so—called special military operation, the invasion, he said there was a need to boost russian security. the drone attacks suggest that instead of increasing russian national security, the invasion of ukraine has brought more insecurity for russia and the russian people. thanks. the foreign secretary, james cleverly, has arrived in beijing for the first visit to china by a senior minister in more than five years. he's there for a series of meetings with chinese officials on topics including international security and climate change. he also promised to raise concerns over human rights issues. the man who was chief executive of the nhs trust where nurse lucy letby murdered seven babies, wrote in a now—deleted blog about being "persuaded" to run a london trust by a senior nhs england boss. tony chambers resigned from the countess of chester nhs trust in september 2018. he has been accused of ignoring concerns raised by doctors who worked with letby. the property website zoopla says the number of houses sold in the uk this year is on track to be the lowest in more than a decade. around one million sales are set to be completed, down almost a fifth from last year. the us state of florida is preparing for hurricane idalia, which is expected to make landfall later. the state governor has issued evacuation orders, amid warnings of 16ft high storm surges in some coastal areas. our correspondentjohn sudworth has sent this report from the city of tampa. the unusually warm conditions in the gulf of mexico have fuelled the hurricane. though it's not the wind speeds that pose the greatest threat to life, but the storm surge, as large amounts of sea water are forced into florida's low—lying coastal communities. with more than 20 counties under evacuation orders, for days, the authorities have been warning those residents unable to stay with friends or relatives to head for the emergency shelters. it's difficult for me to understand, because this is my first evacuation in my entire life and it's just difficult. in your neighbourhood, have some people chosen to stay, do you know? yes, some have chosen to stay. what do you think about that? i mean, it's up to them, it's their choice. but i highly recommend for them to evacuate because it's their safety, it's their lives on the line. forecasters have now adjusted the predicted track for this hurricane, taking it towards an area of the state of florida known as the big bend, where the florida panhandle bends round into the peninsula. and there with reports that dozens of people are still holding out in their homes, the authorities are making increasingly desperate appeals for them to heed the warnings and get out. if you have not evacuated, you need to do that right now. you need to drop what you're doing. you need to go to your room, pack up, pack your things and get to safety. if you need power, you need to get to safety. you need to evacuate right now. officials in florida are repeatedly using the word "catastrophic" to describe the potential impact. more than 5,000 national guard members are on standby, as are nearly 40,000 electrical engineers, with major power cuts expected. john sudworth, bbc news, florida. jason allen from cbs news says there are safety concerns for those living in crystal river florida, which is about about an hour north of tampa. we are here in crystal river, the elevation is only four feet or so above sea level. as we go further to the north, in the big bend area of florida, very, very rural area. very small communities. a lot of people are living in areas that are just like this, two or three or four feet above sea level and in many structures that have not been tested by winds or storm surges like this. those are also the places where those floodwaters are going to inundate and be, well, here where we are, seven to 11 feet of additional water on top of what you see. in those spots where the hurricane comes directly ashore, they are saying potentially 15 feet or more. those are the biggest concerns right now for people here. it seems to be changing by the minute. it is expected to make landfall in the next two hours. you are watching it closely. yes, upgraded to a category three while we have been on air with wind speeds of 120 mph. we expect it to be upgraded further to a category four, which means wind speeds of 130 mph with gusts as much as 161 miles per hour. these hurricanes can also lead to tornadoes, so devastating, huge, catastrophic hurricane. what we have is a mixture of sunshine and scattered showers. they are with us in parts of the north and west. a brighter start with sunshine in central and eastern areas. as we go through the day, more fairweather cloud will produce showers. some could be heavy across east anglia, where we could hear thunder. temperatures are down on yesterday, 15—20. this evening and overnight, we lose a lot of showers. we have clear skies. towards the west, northern ireland, wales, south—west england, perhaps the isle of wight, we will see cloud building and then the rain comes in and the wind will strengthen. if you hope to see the blue supermoon, there is a good chance in central and eastern areas under clear skies but it will be a cold night so make sure you wrap up warm if you do that. tomorrow, we start with a lot of dry weather and sunshine in central and eastern areas as well as scotland. we have the rain pushing northwards and eastwards and this is where we think is the northern extent but that might change slightly. temperatures 15—20 north to south. the rain continues to clear early on friday morning and high pressure starts to build. the weather will turn settled. some cloud breaking through the day. still some showers. temperatures, 14 in the north, 2! in the south. and the high pressure remains through the weekend and into next week. the presenter sarah beeny has dedicated much of her life to property renovation and helping others on her tv shows like 'beeny�*s restoration nightmare' and 'help, my house is falling down'. sarah's latest move, to a former dairy farm in somerset, saw her family say goodbye to city life and embrace country living. she documented their experience in her latest book, while also going through a breast cancer diagnosis and treatment. just have a quick look at sarah beeny�*s new life in the country. we have been fighting the seasons since we moved in because we were trying to dig the foundations in the winter, which is a really stupid thing to do. we were building in the winter. fighting the seasons on a farm is an uphill battle. i have sort of given in to it a bit. i've accepted it. if you just do the right thing at the right time. so this is the right time to be emptying the pond. the sooner we empty it, the sooner we can get it working as a really good wildlife environment. we can use the summer with all the animals that are going to come, and the birds and put fish in and plants. it will be a really lovely ecosystem, this. sarah joins us now. good morning. do you feel at home? yes, i might as well being. it is so cool yes, i might as well being. it is so cool. it yes, i might as well being. it is so cool. , ., , ., ., yes, i might as well being. it is so cool. , ., ., cool. it is lovely to have you here. how are things? _ cool. it is lovely to have you here. how are things? really _ cool. it is lovely to have you here. how are things? really well, - cool. it is lovely to have you here. how are things? really well, i - cool. it is lovely to have you here. how are things? really well, i am | how are things? really well, i am lucky. i had a lucky diagnosis and i am lucky to live in the uk, have the nhs, lucky to be the age i am and live the time i do. so many things to be grateful for. live the time i do. so many things to be gratefulfor. we live the time i do. so many things to be grateful for.— to be grateful for. we are so familiar with _ to be grateful for. we are so familiar with you, _ to be grateful for. we are so familiar with you, you - to be grateful for. we are so familiar with you, you have i to be grateful for. we are so - familiar with you, you have been on our screens a long time, renovating properties. looking at your book, you have done this way before we saw you have done this way before we saw you do it on tv. you bought your first home early, you were very young. and this is called the simple life. why is the notion of home so important? i life. why is the notion of home so important?— important? i think it always has been. important? i think it always has been- what _ important? i think it always has been- what i — important? i think it always has been. what i am _ important? i think it always has been. what i am interested - important? i think it always has been. what i am interested in, | important? i think it always has| been. what i am interested in, i always wanted to be self—employed so i started a property development and investment company with my brother and then boyfriend, now husband, when we were 19. we had two companies we ran through my 20s. i did not start on telly until i was 30. i think that is why they asked me. we already have these companies. this book is more about home. i have not had that many homes. i find the concept of home interesting. ultimately, it is about people. we are all the same, we need food and water, shelter. and hopefully people around to love and love us. is water, shelter. and hopefully people around to love and love us.— around to love and love us. is that all we want? _ around to love and love us. is that all we want? i _ around to love and love us. is that all we want? i guess _ around to love and love us. is that all we want? i guess the _ around to love and love us. is that all we want? i guess the concept l around to love and love us. is that| all we want? i guess the concept of home changes during our lives according to our situation and who we are with. according to our situation and who we are with-— according to our situation and who we are with. ., .., ., «i i. ., we are with. you can make your home an here. we are with. you can make your home anywhere- i — we are with. you can make your home anywhere. i think _ we are with. you can make your home anywhere. i think having _ we are with. you can make your home anywhere. i think having a _ we are with. you can make your home anywhere. i think having a home - we are with. you can make your home anywhere. i think having a home that| anywhere. i think having a home that works well is easier. it is easier to have running water than not. it is hard work not to have it. there is hard work not to have it. there is a point at which a home that functions well makes it easier to live in it, but i guess i was always in search of home. i had a lovely childhood. my mother died when i was quite young. i guess i was sort of in search of what other people find home. which is why we had a development company because i felt i knew how to create homes for other people and myself. i5 knew how to create homes for other people and myself.— people and myself. is that why you went back to _ people and myself. is that why you went back to the _ people and myself. is that why you went back to the countryside - people and myself. is that why you went back to the countryside with i went back to the countryside with the family, to recreate the idyllic sense of home? it the family, to recreate the idyllic sense of home?— the family, to recreate the idyllic sense of home? it probably was a little bit of _ sense of home? it probably was a little bit of a _ sense of home? it probably was a little bit of a hark— sense of home? it probably was a little bit of a hark back _ sense of home? it probably was a little bit of a hark back to - sense of home? it probably was a little bit of a hark back to my - little bit of a hark back to my childhood and thinking i wanted to give them what i had. but also i guess the journey along the way. the book covers the different stages of my life and ends up with now i am in somerset. by the time we bought a farm in somerset and built a house, we were dispersed around the countryside because we had a house in yorkshire and we had a camping field in somerset because we could not go to the wedding venue. we had a home in london. then we had various properties with business all over the place. we had some retail all over the place. everything was everywhere. i call it decluttering. we de—cluttered to somerset. is it simpler, life in the countryside? it is ironic, the title. when i started writing the book, i mean, i still strive for that. it is a state of mind, the simple life. ifind it difficult to say no to things that come along because life is exciting and there are opportunities. i find it hard not to say yes to opportunities. i am trying hard to potter around my greenhouse. but i find it difficult to resist opportunity when it comes along. i5 opportunity when it comes along. is that consciously trying to look after yourself better after your diagnosis?— diagnosis? not so much. i was diagnosed _ diagnosis? not so much. i was diagnosed with _ diagnosis? not so much. i was diagnosed with cancer- diagnosis? not so much. i was diagnosed with cancer a - diagnosis? not so much. i was diagnosed with cancer a year. diagnosis? not so much. i was. diagnosed with cancer a year ago diagnosis? not so much. i was- diagnosed with cancer a year ago and it did not change me at all, well, it did not change me at all, well, it did not change me at all, well, it did because i had to go through treatment, but i would hate to think i am a different person now. i am a lot less nervous of cancer now. it was like the big bad wolf. now, you just deal with it. and i think the earlier the diagnosis, the better the outcome, so you have to get to the outcome, so you have to get to the doctor quick. treatment is amazing compared to a0 years ago and in a0 years, it will be totally nothing. ifeel in a0 years, it will be totally nothing. i feel fortunate that i have opened that box of demons, looked inside. they are not exactly pretty. looked inside. they are not exactly re . ~ ., looked inside. they are not exactly ire , . ., , ., looked inside. they are not exactly re .~ ., ., looked inside. they are not exactly ire .~ ., ., looked inside. they are not exactly ire .~ ., , pretty. what you do so beautifully in the book. _ pretty. what you do so beautifully in the book, you _ pretty. what you do so beautifully in the book, you weave _ pretty. what you do so beautifully in the book, you weave narratives| in the book, you weave narratives through it. things like parenting, your experience of being a child, your experience of being a child, your mother, who sadly died when you were young. through that process of writing, what did you realise about your upbringing and how it informed your upbringing and how it informed your parenting and decisions to move through life through different properties? it through life through different properties?— through life through different iiroerties? , , ., properties? it probably made the relationship _ properties? it probably made the relationship between... - properties? it probably made the relationship between. .. i - properties? it probably made the relationship between. .. i look- properties? it probably made the i relationship between... i look back on the relationship between my mum and dad and with my brother, it is a close relationship and probably has shaped... i have four sons. close relationship and probably has shaped... i have foursons. iam lucky to have them and it has shaped my relationship with them and as they grow. now they have a band with my husband. they have a new song out tomorrow which is exciting. they have a band that is flying. i think the relationship i have with them has been coloured by my childhood. i am immensely proud of them. i do pinch myself and think, how did i end up here, how did i end up with... they won a competition to play at glastonbury and i was at glastonbury thinking, do i deserve this? how did i get so jammy, this is amazing. 50 this? how did i get so 'ammy, this is amazing.— this? how did i get so 'ammy, this is mung.— this? how did i get so 'ammy, this is amazini. ., ., ., ., is amazing. so i am fortunate. your mother pushed _ is amazing. so i am fortunate. your mother pushed you _ is amazing. so i am fortunate. your mother pushed you and _ is amazing. so i am fortunate. your mother pushed you and your- is amazing. so i am fortunate. your| mother pushed you and your brother to enter things like poetry recitals, music competitions. she pushed to you and maybe you did not pushed to you and maybe you did not push your children but there is the element of driving forward that carries on through the generations. there is definitely a forward trajectory. it would be a lie to say i did not push my children because when they were young i made them play the piano. i did not make them have a band but i made them learn various instruments. they put a band together and wrote the first song with my husband and that flu and they released others. that is cool. i do expect a lot out of life for myself and everyone around me. it is lovel to myself and everyone around me. it is lovely to have — myself and everyone around me. it is lovely to have you here looking so well. property developer and rock mum. the simple life: how i found home by sarah beeny is out tomorrow. if you've ever renovated your home, or if you work in the trade — you'll know that getting rid of old carpets can be a bit of a task and not very environmentally friendly. something sarah would tackle on tv. most unwanted carpet currently ends up in landfill — it's plastic even though it could be upcycled into other products. ben can tell us more. good morning. they get so many lorry—loads of this old thrown out carpet. offcuts from new build, some carpets people are throwing out. it is an impressive process. this is the first carpet recycling factory in the uk, here in northampton. it arrives and gets shredded and sorted and goes into this machine where it is chopped up. it comes down through the finals. it goes to the next machine. you can see the components have been taken apart. you have some of the backing, the top layer. from there, it is pushed down, goes through the machine, is sucked up by the funnel, from that it takes it all the way around. it goes into this machine which then can pack to sit down. ultimately, it is put into what look like insulation blocks but thatis what look like insulation blocks but that is not where it ends because it then comes through another machine to be made into these plastic pellets. this means the carpet can be recycled and turned into... this is a tile for a temporary driveway. these are roof tiles. it saves the carpet being burnt or going into landfill. we throw out half a million tonnes of carpet every year. just 2% at the moment is recycled and reused. here they process something like 20,000 tonnes every year. we can find out more about the process. ian is from a carpet manufacturer. the process begins when you are buying a new carpet. how do you make sure new carpets can be recycled here. we how do you make sure new carpets can be recycled here-— be recycled here. we have designed and manufactured _ be recycled here. we have designed and manufactured the _ be recycled here. we have designed and manufactured the carpet - be recycled here. we have designed and manufactured the carpet so - be recycled here. we have designed| and manufactured the carpet so they can be recycled at the end of its life and do that by ensuring we have the same single polymer for the raw materials, the yarn and backing. if people are buying a new carpet, is there a symbol they can look for so they know it can be recycled? it does not exist but the trade body is working on ensuring the manufacturers have the symbol so the consumer knows what they can do with the carpet at end of life. that consumer knows what they can do with the carpet at end of life.— the carpet at end of life. that is the carpet at end of life. that is the process _ the carpet at end of life. that is the process of _ the carpet at end of life. that is the process of making - the carpet at end of life. that is the process of making sure - the carpet at end of life. that is the process of making sure it i the carpet at end of life. that is l the process of making sure it can the carpet at end of life. that is - the process of making sure it can be recycled. what about when you are throwing it out? roger is from a waste management company. what used to happen before a facility like this existed? hm to happen before a facility like this existed?— to happen before a facility like this existed? . ., , ., ., this existed? an old carpet would go to a landfill site. _ this existed? an old carpet would go to a landfill site. more _ this existed? an old carpet would go to a landfill site. more recently, - to a landfill site. more recently, it goes to an incineration plant where the energy is recovered, and hopefully a place like this. if people want to do the right thing and make sure when they are throwing out their carpet it ends up here and not in landfill, incinerated, how do they make sure that happens? there are two types — they make sure that happens? there are two types of _ they make sure that happens? there are two types of customer. - they make sure that happens? there are two types of customer. if- they make sure that happens? ifurr are two types of customer. if your carpet fitter is sending it here, great. if you lift the carpet, take it to your recycling centre who will potentially send it here. do not put it in general waste and not in recycling at home.— it in general waste and not in recycling at home. what about throwini recycling at home. what about throwing it _ recycling at home. what about throwing it into _ recycling at home. what about throwing it into a _ recycling at home. what about throwing it into a skip? - recycling at home. what about throwing it into a skip? no, i recycling at home. what about - throwing it into a skip? no, because it is contaminated _ throwing it into a skip? no, because it is contaminated with _ throwing it into a skip? no, because it is contaminated with other- throwing it into a skip? no, because it is contaminated with other waist, | it is contaminated with other waist, even other carpet ways like rods and metal. ., , ., , , ., metal. that needs to be separated out. metal. that needs to be separated out- thank — metal. that needs to be separated out. thank you. _ metal. that needs to be separated out. thank you. it _ metal. that needs to be separated out. thank you. it is _ metal. that needs to be separated out. thank you. it is so _ metal. that needs to be separated | out. thank you. it is so impressive. i find out. thank you. it is so impressive. ifind it astonishing out. thank you. it is so impressive. i find it astonishing that shredded carpets, within hours, can be turned into these pellets and go on to have a new lease of life instead of ending up in landfill or being incinerated. studio: what a great idea. they look like coffee beans. it reminds me of the scene in amelie. that looks very satisfying. he will be doing that all day. morning live follows breakfast on bbc one this morning. let's find out what they have in store with gethin and michelle. i cannot believe only 2% of carpets are recycled. coming up, as the summer holidays come to a close, skin cancer in the uk is rising, and cases of melanoma are now at an all time high. today, dr ranj is here to help you spot the warning signs. over 170,000 cases of skin cancer are diagnosed each year, that's more than a50 a day. i'll show you how to prevent it and why a ruler could be the key to early detection. and i was thinking he was doing his homework! plus, if you've been swindled by a builder, solicitor ayesha nayyar�*s here to explain how your home insurance could cover your legal fees. also michelin—starred chef marcus wareing returned to our screens this week with tales from a kitchen garden. it is quite some garden. he'll be telling us what we can expect from the new series and why you should never put your tomatoes in the fridge. that is a revelation. and ahead of the new series of the awardwinning sitcom mrs brown's boys, stars of the show brendan o'carroll and jenny gibney are here to dish the dirt on what it's really like working with your family and why a hidden code word in the script caused chaos on set. all that plus, rhys stephenson's busy today, he's discovering how the cost of going to university has led to a rise in people taking on apprenticeships. led to a rise in people taking and he's leading us in strictly fitness at the end of the show. see you at 9:15. i was looking at your carpet and wondering where it might end up one day. let us know when you want to get rid of it. time for the news, travel and weather where you are. a very good morning and welcome to bbc london, i'm thomas magill. cameras used to enforce the nearly expanded ultra low emission zone are continuing to be vandalised. the latest incident was reported in bromley where four cameras were painted red in protest. the mayor insists it's needed to tackle air pollution. a £160 million scrappage scheme is available for all londoners to claim a maximum of £2,000 per vehicle. bob and his daughter are among the thousands of londoners who have applied but says the process is slow. she applied last monday, the 21st, the first day of the scrappage scheme, and up to today we've heard nothing. and for more on the arguments for and against the expansion of ulez head over to our website. campaigners have occupied a block of empty flats owned by the ministry ofjustice in islington and are demanding they are given to families who need homes in the borough. the block used to be occupied by prison officers at pentonville but has been vacant for a decade. the ministry ofjustice says an application to turn the site into new housing was turned down by the council and they're continuing to look for the best way to use the building. campaigners say around 15,000 families are on the housing waiting list in islington. let's see how the tube is running at this time of the morning. there's a good service on all of the network. and just a reminder, rail bosses are advising people to plan ahead if you're intending to use the trains on friday as strike action is planned by some drivers. i6 operators are affected including southern, southeastern and swr which has said the majority of its network will be closed. and rmt members are also taking industrial action on saturday. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. last night's clear skies mean it's a bright start this morning, plenty of sunshine but today we do have a chance of one or two showers. the cloud will gradually start to bubble up through this morning. with that we get the showers, just some scattered ones as we head through the afternoon, especially, but still some sunny spells and temperatures today reaching 20 celsius. that shower risk will fade into the evening, becoming dry and largely clear and under those clear skies, temperatures again sneaking back down into single figures. quite a fresh night, the minimum of eight celsius. a bright start tomorrow morning, short lived. you can see this cloud just moving in, that's our next front and that is going to bring more cloud and some quite unsettled conditions through thursday. the cloud spreads across, with it the rain arrives and that rain is really going to come and go through the course of thursday. perhaps a few sharper bursts mixed in there as well. temperatures tomorrow, a cool 17 or 18 celsius. high pressure builds towards friday and into the weekend so it's looking largely fine and dry and the temperatures a little warmer. that's it from me for now. more on the bbc news app, download the app and remember to selct london. and on bbc radio london through—out the morning. i'll be back in half an hour but for now let's cross back to jon and victoria. hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and victoria valentine. nottinghamshire police force is flying its flags at half mast in tribute to graham saville, the officer killed trying to help a distressed man on railway tracks near newark. sergeant saville was hit by a train in balderton last thursday as he tried to rescue the man. he was a6. we'rejoined now by inspector simon riley from nottinghamshire police federation. simon, federation. first, my condolences to you, simon, first, my condolences to you, i am so sorry for your loss. hoop simon, first, my condolences to you, i am so sorry for your loss.— i am so sorry for your loss. how is the police — i am so sorry for your loss. how is the police force _ i am so sorry for your loss. how is the police force holding _ i am so sorry for your loss. how is the police force holding up? - i am so sorry for your loss. how is the police force holding up? good| the police force holding up? good mornini. the police force holding up? good morning- it's _ the police force holding up? good morning. it's fair _ the police force holding up? good morning. it's fair to _ the police force holding up? good morning. it's fair to say _ the police force holding up? good morning. it's fair to say that - the police force holding up? (ems morning. it's fair to say that the force is devastated by the news that came out yesterday and there are a lot of very sad people around the force at the minute.— force at the minute. let's talk about the _ force at the minute. let's talk about the man, _ force at the minute. let's talk about the man, i _ force at the minute. let's talk about the man, i have - force at the minute. let's talk about the man, i have heard i force at the minute. let's talk| about the man, i have heard a force at the minute. let's talk - about the man, i have heard a lot of warm tributes coming through about the work that he did, how brave he was, what was he like as a colleague? i was, what was he like as a colleague?— was, what was he like as a colleague? was, what was he like as a colleaiue? ., , ., ., ., ., colleague? i was fortunate enough to be graham's — colleague? i was fortunate enough to be graham's inspector _ colleague? i was fortunate enough to be graham's inspector a _ colleague? i was fortunate enough to be graham's inspector a few- colleague? i was fortunate enough to be graham's inspector a few years i be graham's inspector a few years ago on one of the response teams in the city, and i can say he was absolutely everything you would want in a police officer. he was kind, compassionate, determined, strong, ultimately professional and knew his purpose as a police officer. ifind ultimately professional and knew his purpose as a police officer.— purpose as a police officer. and how are the family? _ purpose as a police officer. and how are the family? i _ purpose as a police officer. and how are the family? i have _ purpose as a police officer. and how are the family? i have not _ purpose as a police officer. and how are the family? i have not had - purpose as a police officer. and how are the family? i have not had a - are the family? i have not had a contact person _ are the family? i have not had a contact person lay _ are the family? i have not had a contact person lay with - are the family? i have not had a contact person lay with the - are the family? i have not had a i contact person lay with the family, they are being supported by specially trained officers within the minute, i can only imagine what they are going through but i would like to say no more than that. it just goes to show what officers have to deal with and how unexpected things can be and how much bravery is involved in being in the police. you are absolutely, itjust shows. —— yes, absolutely. a fairly routine they can change with devastating consequences if we have seen. {lit consequences if we have seen. of course there were officers involved because this has become a scene, what happens next, there is an investigation?— what happens next, there is an investiiation? , ., ., ., investigation? there is an ongoing investigation. _ investigation? there is an ongoing investigation, being _ investigation? there is an ongoing investigation, being led _ investigation? there is an ongoing investigation, being led by- investigation? there is an ongoing investigation, being led by british| investigation, being led by british transport police. obviously there were a lot of our members who attended to that seen on the night, many of whom are going through a particularly difficult time as a result of what they experienced and what they were called upon to do on the night. and they are being given all the support that they need. inspector simon riley, thank you for your time and inspector simon riley, thank you for yourtime and i inspector simon riley, thank you for your time and i am sorry for your loss, thank you.— how much exercise do you usually do each week and would you describe yourself as active? a new national activity task force is being launched by the government to encourage us to spend more time on the move. what does that mean? well, it aims to help an additional 2.5 million adults and i million children be physically active by 2030. adults should aim to carry out at least 150 minutes of moderate intensity activity each week and children should do 60 minutes of physical activity every day. but figures from sport england show that at the moment more than 2 million young people are active for less than 30 minutes a day. according to nhs england, one in seven children are obese by the time they start school. but where are we supposed to be exercising? today's announcement comes amid warnings that half of the uk's community swimming pools face closure or cuts amid crippling energy costs. the chancellor has announced a £63 million support package for public swimming pools which is due to be delivered next month. we're joined now by ali oliver, chief executive of the youth sport trust. and also by steve shilley from ashton—under—lyne swimming club. thank you forjoining us, both of you. ali, first to you, what is your response to what you have just heard from jon? response to what you have 'ust heard from jon? ., .. response to what you have 'ust heard from jon? ., «i i. . ., ., from jon? thank you, victoria. our resionse from jon? thank you, victoria. our response and _ from jon? thank you, victoria. our response and the _ from jon? thank you, victoria. our response and the whole _ from jon? thank you, victoria. our response and the whole of- from jon? thank you, victoria. our response and the whole of the - from jon? thank you, victoria. ouri response and the whole of the horse book sector response is a great that this strategy is being launched, it shines a light on the essential nature of inspiring the nation and taking the steps to help the nation improve its health and well—being on an individual level, but the language is really encouraging about the role of sport and physical activities for strengthening communities, protecting the nhs and driving the economy. there is a lot to celebrate and feel really good about in the report. but as always any strategy should be measured on its impact, and we are yet to see the detail on exactly what the implementation and will be for the strategy. i'm very hopeful about it and i think as a sector as a whole we welcome a real attempt by government to leveraged the sport and physical activity sector. we are brilliant on an international stage, we have had a great summer of sport but we are not so good as grassroots activity support. we need to be active and protect our health and well—being of our communities as well—being of our communities as well as winning medals and standing on a podium. well as winning medals and standing on a podium-— well as winning medals and standing on a podium. good morning, steve, i hoie ou on a podium. good morning, steve, i hope you are — on a podium. good morning, steve, i hope you are listening _ on a podium. good morning, steve, i hope you are listening to _ on a podium. good morning, steve, i hope you are listening to ali, - on a podium. good morning, steve, i hope you are listening to ali, she - hope you are listening to ali, she sounds pretty hopeful. what is the situation facing your club at the moment? ., ., ., , ., ., , moment? tomorrow night is our last niiht, it moment? tomorrow night is our last night. it shuts _ moment? tomorrow night is our last night, it shuts down _ moment? tomorrow night is our last night, it shuts down on _ moment? tomorrow night is our last night, it shuts down on sunday. - moment? tomorrow night is our last night, it shuts down on sunday. it'si night, it shuts down on sunday. it's the end _ night, it shuts down on sunday. it's the end of— night, it shuts down on sunday. it's the end of an era for ashton swimming club, we are moving to a place _ swimming club, we are moving to a place which — swimming club, we are moving to a place which is 20 minutes drive away which _ place which is 20 minutes drive away which isn't _ place which is 20 minutes drive away which isn't good, notjust for the swimming — which isn't good, notjust for the swimming club at the whole community. it's devastating, while we have _ community. it's devastating, while we have been here setting up, people were in— we have been here setting up, people were in the _ we have been here setting up, people were in the pool swimming, they are here from _ were in the pool swimming, they are here from 6am. it's going to affect the whole — here from 6am. it's going to affect the whole community, devastating, how the _ the whole community, devastating, how the council can shut this when the health— how the council can shut this when the health and well—being of the whole _ the health and well—being of the whole community is at risk, ijust don't _ whole community is at risk, ijust don't know— whole community is at risk, ijust don't know what they're thinking. have _ don't know what they're thinking. have you — don't know what they're thinking. have you been able to run the numbers are what you think the impact might be, how many people might drop off in terms of the sports that they currently do as a result of this? late sports that they currently do as a result of this?— sports that they currently do as a result of this? we have about 140 members but _ result of this? we have about 140 members but there _ result of this? we have about 140 members but there was _ result of this? we have about 140 members but there was a - result of this? we have about 140 members but there was a diving i result of this? we have about 140 i members but there was a diving club in here— members but there was a diving club in here that — members but there was a diving club in here that they have to move, during _ in here that they have to move, during the — in here that they have to move, during the day there is about 500 throughout the week, 500 children come _ throughout the week, 500 children come from — throughout the week, 500 children come from local schools. they have about _ come from local schools. they have about i000 — come from local schools. they have about 1000 children coming for swimming lessons. they have all got to be _ swimming lessons. they have all got to be put _ swimming lessons. they have all got to be put in — swimming lessons. they have all got to be put in. not everybody can afford _ to be put in. not everybody can afford to — to be put in. not everybody can afford to travel will stop a lot of people — afford to travel will stop a lot of people will get the bus or walk in, they're _ people will get the bus or walk in, they're not— people will get the bus or walk in, they're not thinking, like, on a saturday. _ they're not thinking, like, on a saturday, loads of children go for a public— saturday, loads of children go for a public swim, where are they going to go? they— public swim, where are they going to go? they willjust be around on the streets _ go? they willjust be around on the streets. they're not going to travel a long _ streets. they're not going to travel a long way — streets. they're not going to travel a long way-— a long way. that's the situation in ashton under— a long way. that's the situation in ashton under lyme, _ a long way. that's the situation in ashton under lyme, the - a long way. that's the situation in ashton under lyme, the council l a long way. that's the situation in - ashton under lyme, the council there say that due to the significant financial changes in the national economy which have ravaged the financial capacity to remain financial capacity to remain financial viable as an organisation, and rising energy costs are factors. that's the reality, ali, we can have all of the targets we want, but we don't have the places to go to, and we will not reach these targets are. my we will not reach these targets are. my heart sinks when i listen to steve because that is the reality in many places. i have to reinforce the high—level ambition, those figures you talked about earlier, a task force overseeing the delivery of those, that's the first step. and what has come on one side that is the detail of the strategy and implementation, in particular how we are going to tackle that swimming is always a cost. swimming pools cost a lot to run, we have ageing infrastructure. but if this is a national priority, that we teach every child to swim and we want to encourage the adult population to be more active, we had to take these things seriously and we need to see both investment but also innovation, creativity, new ways of thinking. and as always it's a mixture of supply and demand, we need to ramp up supply and demand, we need to ramp up demand from the public to want to be active, and see this as a priority to use their votes in the next election to vote for parties that promote health and well—being and the long—term happiness and health of our children, but we also need to have the supply of facilities, coaches, teachers, volunteers, all of those things that go along side, they have to come out of the detail of this strategy. that is an interesting _ of the detail of this strategy. that is an interesting challenge, making people want to be active. people's budgets are pressed and their time is short. a lot of people think, they discount it. how do you make them want to do it? i they discount it. how do you make them want to do it?— them want to do it? i think there are of a few _ them want to do it? i think there are of a few very _ them want to do it? i think there are of a few very simple - them want to do it? i think there are of a few very simple things. i them want to do it? i think there i are of a few very simple things. i'm not trying to make this sound less challenging but fundamentally we have to start with children and make sure that their relationship with movement and physical activity is positive. that means we have to have great physical education in our schools, a plentiful supply of after—school sports so every child can find a sport they love. as we know as we get older behaviour is driven by beliefs and values and at the moment there is not enough educational awareness of the impact of physical activity on our physical and mental health. statistics like physical activity can get rid of about 1 physical activity can get rid of abouti million cases of diabetes per year, 100,000 cases of dementia, it can raise academic attainment and achievement in our schools, it can lower referrals to mental health services for our young people, all of this needs to be talked about more. this strategy and a task force behind it really i hope up the ante on public awareness. when people know these things and they are struggling, there are many things we can do with low—cost, we can walk more, enjoy the outdoors with our family. we can make playtimes at school more active and more joyful more children. there are simple things we have to do but we have to understand why and then we have to be empowered and supported to do it. we need to see local clubs, local volunteers helped and aided to maintain provision at a local level. if it isn't local and accessible, evenif if it isn't local and accessible, even if you get that demand right, people want to try and get to a sport, they cannot get there or it's too expensive, then that will be a barrier. hate too expensive, then that will be a barrier. ~ ., too expensive, then that will be a barrier. . ., ., ., barrier. we have to leave it there, ali oliver and _ barrier. we have to leave it there, ali oliver and steve _ barrier. we have to leave it there, ali oliver and steve shelley, - barrier. we have to leave it there, | ali oliver and steve shelley, thank you very much forjoining us. it's fair to say summer has been a bit of a wash—out. and while lots of us may still be holding out for a barbecue or a sunny afternoon in the garden... are we really doing this? we are. some shops have already brought out the christmas decorations. in august! i can't believe we're doing this. 117 days till christmas. ho ho ho or no, no, no! alison freeman is at thirsk garden centre in north yorkshire and can tell us more. lots of businesses bringing on christmas early for commercial reasons. , ., ., christmas early for commercial reasons. , ., ., reasons. yes, good morning. look at this beautiful— reasons. yes, good morning. look at this beautiful winter _ reasons. yes, good morning. look at this beautiful winter wonderland - reasons. yes, good morning. look at this beautiful winter wonderland in i this beautiful winter wonderland in august. we are talking about the fact that these goods have come out early this year because perhaps in the more traditional pieces like furniture and plants, they are not selling as well as they should because of the bad weather. i am joined by one of the owners here. are they out a bit early, these decorations? its, are they out a bit early, these decorations?— are they out a bit early, these decorations? i ., . ., , , decorations? a touch earlier, yes, we tend to — decorations? a touch earlier, yes, we tend to get _ decorations? a touch earlier, yes, we tend to get them _ decorations? a touch earlier, yes, we tend to get them out - decorations? a touch earlier, yes, we tend to get them out around i we tend to get them out around september time. we tend to get them out around septembertime. but we tend to get them out around september time. but it takes so long to set up, and because the summer has not been as good as normal, we have got them out a touch earlier. talking about some are not being as good, how has that affected your furniture and plant sales? massively, it was a slow start in march and april, the weather did get good and it picked up but then it turned bad again so it has been a bit hit and miss this summer. diversification, that is what you are doing, so you are trying to get people in the store, is it working? it is, we try to do all of the good displays to bring people in, make everyone happy. it's all good. thahk everyone happy. it's all good. thank ou ve everyone happy. it's all good. thank you very much- _ everyone happy. it's all good. thank you very much. leo _ everyone happy. it's all good. thank you very much. leo runs _ everyone happy. it's all good. thank you very much. leo runs the - everyone happy. it's all good. thank you very much. leo runs the coffee | you very much. leo runs the coffee shop here. a bit of christmas and that in the coffee shop as well? yes, we have to bring people in and bring the christmas spirit in there. we are putting some christmas pastries— we are putting some christmas pastries out, coffee with maple syrup. — pastries out, coffee with maple syrup, trying to make people more christmassy if that is a word! it is and ou christmassy if that is a word! it is and you definitely _ christmassy if that is a word! ht 3 and you definitely are doing that! let's talk to graham, our business expert. how our gardens and is doing, are they in trouble? thea;t expert. how our gardens and is doing, are they in trouble? they are actually booming, _ doing, are they in trouble? they are actually booming, even _ doing, are they in trouble? they are actually booming, even with - doing, are they in trouble? they are actually booming, even with the - doing, are they in trouble? they arej actually booming, even with the wet july. what happened injuly is that although sales of garden furniture were down, sales in other areas like pet care and gifts and the cafe was up. garden centres are becoming more like department stores, they are destinations with a whole range of different categories. £11!" destinations with a whole range of different categories. our consumers read for different categories. our consumers ready for christmas _ different categories. our consumers ready for christmas yet? _ different categories. our consumers ready for christmas yet? i _ different categories. our consumers ready for christmas yet? i think - ready for christmas yet? i think the are, ready for christmas yet? i think they are. in _ ready for christmas yet? i think they are, in that _ ready for christmas yet? i think they are, in that it _ ready for christmas yet? i think they are, in that it is _ ready for christmas yet? i think they are, in that it is a - ready for christmas yet? i think they are, in that it is a big - ready for christmas yet? i think. they are, in that it is a big issue, as the cost of living crisis, people want to spread the cost of christmas over a longer period so it makes sense to have these items out now. do you love christmas? i sense to have these items out now. do you love christmas?— sense to have these items out now. do you love christmas? i do. what is our do you love christmas? i do. what is your favourite _ do you love christmas? i u what is your favourite decoration? do you love christmas? i do. what is your favourite decoration? i - do you love christmas? i do. what is your favourite decoration? i always i your favourite decoration? i always sa retail your favourite decoration? i always say retail is — your favourite decoration? i always say retail is full _ your favourite decoration? i always say retail is full of _ your favourite decoration? i always say retail is full of stars _ your favourite decoration? i always say retail is full of stars so - your favourite decoration? i always say retail is full of stars so it - say retail is full of stars so it has to be a star for the christmas tree. i i has to be a star for the christmas tree. i . ., ., i. has to be a star for the christmas tree, i . ., ., y., i has to be a star for the christmas tree. i i ., ., i. i love tree. which one for you, leo? i love the iolar tree. which one for you, leo? i love the polar bear. _ tree. which one for you, leo? i love the polar bear, it _ tree. which one for you, leo? i love the polar bear, it caught _ tree. which one for you, leo? i love the polar bear, it caught my - tree. which one for you, leo? i love the polar bear, it caught my eye. i tree. which one for you, leo? i love| the polar bear, it caught my eye. he has the polar bear, it caught my eye. he. has -ot the polar bear, it caught my eye. has got a the polar bear, it caught my eye. he: has got a good per character. which is yours, joe? i has got a good per character. which is yours. joe?— is yours, joe? i love the owls. we have a good _ is yours, joe? i love the owls. we have a good selection _ is yours, joe? i love the owls. we have a good selection of- is yours, joe? i love the owls. we have a good selection of towels i | have a good selection of towels i really like them.— have a good selection of towels i really like them. they are nice and white and fluffy. _ really like them. they are nice and white and fluffy. this _ really like them. they are nice and white and fluffy. this is _ really like them. they are nice and white and fluffy. this is my - white and fluffy. this is my favourite, look, a little set of angel wings. sadly, jon and victoria, it does not come in my size. ii, , victoria, it does not come in my size. , ., victoria, it does not come in my size, , ., , victoria, it does not come in my size. , ., , ., ., victoria, it does not come in my size. ., , ., ., size. maybe that is not a bad thing, alison. size. maybe that is not a bad thing, alison- lots — size. maybe that is not a bad thing, alison. lots of _ size. maybe that is not a bad thing, alison. lots of people _ size. maybe that is not a bad thing, alison. lots of people are - size. maybe that is not a bad thing, alison. lots of people are not - size. maybe that is not a bad thing, | alison. lots of people are not happy with us this morning for even talking about christmas. john has beenin talking about christmas. john has been in touch saying, this is a crime, hand yourselves into the nearest police station. i5 crime, hand yourselves into the nearest police station. is it ever too early to _ nearest police station. is it ever too early to crank _ nearest police station. is it ever too early to crank out _ nearest police station. is it ever too early to crank out mariah i nearest police station. is it ever - too early to crank out mariah carey? yes! �* , ., too early to crank out mariah carey? yes! �*, ., ., 3:1, ., thereza bazar was one half of the 80s pop group dollar and now more than a0 years after releasing popular singles including mirror, mirror, she's hitting the stage once more fora uk tour. let's take a listen to some of her greatest hits. # mirror mirror mon amour, send me what i'm waiting for # pick me up an image so fine, so fine # mirror mirror mon amour, send me what i'm waiting for # set my heart on making you mine. # so give me back my heart # that's all i have to live for # give me back my heart. # 0h, l�*amour # now i'm aching for you # mon amour # what's a boy in love supposed to do? thereza joins us now. good morning, welcome home! you have literallyjust good morning, welcome home! you have literally just flown in from australia?— literally just flown in from australia? , ., i, australia? yes, i arrived yesterday and it does — australia? yes, i arrived yesterday and it does feel _ australia? yes, i arrived yesterday and it does feel like _ australia? yes, i arrived yesterday and it does feel like coming - australia? yes, i arrived yesterdayj and it does feel like coming home, i'm pretty excited.— i'm pretty excited. quite a long 'ourne , i'm pretty excited. quite a long journey. not — i'm pretty excited. quite a long journey, not disrupted - i'm pretty excited. quite a long journey, not disrupted by - i'm pretty excited. quite a long journey, not disrupted by the i journey, not disrupted by the delays? journey, not disrupted by the dela s? ., ., , journey, not disrupted by the dela s? ., �* delays? no, iwas so lucky, i didn't even know— delays? no, iwas so lucky, i didn't even know they _ delays? no, iwas so lucky, i didn't even know they were _ delays? no, iwas so lucky, i didn't even know they were happening . delays? no, iwas so lucky, i didn't| even know they were happening and delays? no, iwas so lucky, i didn't. even know they were happening and i got to the hotel and i was watching you guys, thinking, oh, my gosh, i'm so lucky! wejust landed you guys, thinking, oh, my gosh, i'm so lucky! we just landed at manchester airport was very quiet and now i understand why. those poor people, i hope everyone gets home soon, it must be very tough. igreat soon, it must be very tough. great to have you _ soon, it must be very tough. great to have you here. _ soon, it must be very tough. great to have you here. and _ soon, it must be very tough. great to have you here. and so - soon, it must be very tough. great to have you here. and so exciting. to have you here. and so exciting ou have to have you here. and so exciting you have got _ to have you here. and so exciting you have got a — to have you here. and so exciting you have got a new— to have you here. and so exciting you have got a new tour- to have you here. and so exciting you have got a new tour coming i to have you here. and so exciting i you have got a new tour coming up, how are _ you have got a new tour coming up, how are rehearsals going, has it been _ how are rehearsals going, has it been a — how are rehearsals going, has it been a while?— how are rehearsals going, has it been a while? about 40 years! i'm not really counting. _ been a while? about 40 years! i'm not really counting. rehearsals, i not really counting. rehearsals, even though i was in sydney and the band are all northerners and we are rehearsing in leeds, they are amazing and just to be working with amazing and just to be working with a live band which we never did with dollar, we never got the opportunity, we were the cash cows of the record companies, every day was a different city or different country doing us a television and we never really did touring. from country doing us a television and we never really did touring.— never really did touring. from what i have read. — never really did touring. from what i have read. you — never really did touring. from what i have read, you weren't _ never really did touring. from what i have read, you weren't really - never really did touring. from what j i have read, you weren't really sure what you are getting into when new breakthrough. you knew you were entering the pop industry, but it was an eye—opener. i entering the pop industry, but it was an eye-opener.— entering the pop industry, but it was an eye-opener. i didn't know what i was _ was an eye-opener. i didn't know what i was doing, _ was an eye-opener. i didn't know what i was doing, i— was an eye-opener. i didn't know what i was doing, i was _ was an eye-opener. i didn't know what i was doing, i was such - was an eye-opener. i didn't know what i was doing, i was such a i what i was doing, i was such a child. i didn't even know much about p0p child. i didn't even know much about pop music and fell in love with pop and had the most amazing opportunities. lots of hard work, but i believe you can create your luck so it was really good. you were not reading — luck so it was really good. you were not reading the _ luck so it was really good. you were not reading the contract, _ luck so it was really good. you were not reading the contract, you - not reading the contract, you weren't signing up for the rights, it was a very different business. very different and we were manipulated and you just had to be very polite, especially being a young woman, it was so sexist. you just had to really behave. i was thought of as fluff, basically, fluff and they we were called cheesy, and a lot worse. people were buying our records, i thought people liked us. but it was tough. hoar buying our records, i thought people liked us. but it was tough.— liked us. but it was tough. how did ou liked us. but it was tough. how did you handle — liked us. but it was tough. how did you handle the _ liked us. but it was tough. how did you handle the criticism _ liked us. but it was tough. how did you handle the criticism at - liked us. but it was tough. how did you handle the criticism at the - you handle the criticism at the time? — you handle the criticism at the time? it's _ you handle the criticism at the time? it's not easy hearing this kind _ time? it's not easy hearing this kind of— time? it's not easy hearing this kind of words.— kind of words. no, i was very vulnerable. _ kind of words. no, i was very vulnerable. i— kind of words. no, i was very vulnerable. i used _ kind of words. no, i was very vulnerable. i used to - kind of words. no, i was very vulnerable. i used to watch i kind of words. no, i was very i vulnerable. i used to watch our television performances hiding behind the sofa, going, maybe that is ok, and i would go, why did i choose to wear that dress? you didn't have an entourage, you didn't have anybody to dress you or help you choose, you just did it all by yourself. you choose, you 'ust did it all by ourself. ., ., , ., you choose, you 'ust did it all by ourself. ., ., yourself. so, touring now, you can kind of reclaim _ yourself. so, touring now, you can kind of reclaim it, _ yourself. so, touring now, you can kind of reclaim it, you _ yourself. so, touring now, you can kind of reclaim it, you can - yourself. so, touring now, you can kind of reclaim it, you can do - yourself. so, touring now, you can kind of reclaim it, you can do it - yourself. so, touring now, you can kind of reclaim it, you can do it as| kind of reclaim it, you can do it as you want to do it in your own terms. there is a thing about ageing, you see, it all started with covid and someone asked me to write a book and i thought, no, someone asked me to write a book and ithought, no, who someone asked me to write a book and i thought, no, who would want to read about me? i undid a pandora's box with all the music and the silly antics and i thought, it is a pretty good story and what is the ending? and i thought, that's me and i'm not dead yet. i have got a 97—year—old mother so, dead yet. i have got a 97—year—old motherso, i dead yet. i have got a 97—year—old mother so, i am 68, dead yet. i have got a 97—year—old motherso, iam 68, i dead yet. i have got a 97—year—old mother so, i am 68, i started when i got my 60s and now i'm very proud of it. —— got my 60s and now i'm very proud of it. -- i got my 60s and now i'm very proud of it. —— i started when i got my 60s. we stop ourselves because of our age so part of our tour is reconnecting, meeting people and banging the drum and saying, it doesn't matter how old you are, don't put off what you want to do. old you are, don't put off what you want to do-— want to do. just get on with it. baniiin want to do. just get on with it. banging the — want to do. just get on with it. banging the drum _ want to do. just get on with it. banging the drum in _ want to do. just get on with it. banging the drum in the - want to do. just get on with it. banging the drum in the most| banging the drum in the most fabulous — banging the drum in the most fabulous shoes, can we try and get these _ fabulous shoes, can we try and get these on _ fabulous shoes, can we try and get these on camera?— fabulous shoes, can we try and get - these on camera?_ they these on camera? banging shoes! they io ve well these on camera? banging shoes! they go very well with _ these on camera? banging shoes! they go very well with the _ these on camera? banging shoes! they go very well with the glitterball. - these on camera? banging shoes! they go very well with the glitterball. i - go very well with the glitterball. i didn't know about the christmas! what made me laugh, you pointed out, during _ what made me laugh, you pointed out, during covid. _ what made me laugh, you pointed out, during covid, everyone was padding around _ during covid, everyone was padding around in _ during covid, everyone was padding around in slippers, so everyone has had to— around in slippers, so everyone has had to re—emerge in some ways. for you. _ had to re—emerge in some ways. for you, you _ had to re—emerge in some ways. for you. you are — had to re—emerge in some ways. for you, you are back on stage in shoes like that. _ you, you are back on stage in shoes like that. it — you, you are back on stage in shoes like that. it is — you, you are back on stage in shoes like that, it is quite a thing of the 41 — like that, it is quite a thing of the 41 years. it like that, it is quite a thing of the 41 years-— like that, it is quite a thing of the 41 years. like that, it is quite a thing of the 41 ears. , ., the 41 years. it is quite a thing, i have been _ the 41 years. it is quite a thing, i have been jumping _ the 41 years. it is quite a thing, i have beenjumping up— the 41 years. it is quite a thing, i have been jumping up and - the 41 years. it is quite a thing, i have beenjumping up and down| the 41 years. it is quite a thing, ii have beenjumping up and down in the 41 years. it is quite a thing, i - have beenjumping up and down in my bedroom with heels on thinking, or my hips going to be ok? because you just don't know. i run around in trainers like mostly we do. it is funny. i have to say, i have met some fantastic people along the way already. i was having a conversation with a radio station not very far from here and the local mayor, madame mayor, it was live, and we ended up having this incredible chat and she said, i said, do you know how i am? she could, of course, i said, do you want to come to burnley? she said, i'm coming! to the show! i love community radio, hospital radio, and i wanted to ask you, one of the other things, it's very strange life that we lead, have got a partner in sydney who has a neurological degenerative disease which is really hard and very sad to live through that. and at the same time i'm planning a very sparkling p0p party time i'm planning a very sparkling pop party tour. which is a bit crazy. but if you are a carer, you have to care about yourself to be able to care for others which are so important. and as my favourite word is serendipitous, i have been introduced to this charity called different strokes, which is a different strokes, which is a different —— british charity. std? different -- british charity. stay there for one _ different -- british charity. stay there for one second, _ different -- british charity. stay there for one second, i - different —— british charity. stay there for one second, ijust have to tell our view is that it is 8:59am. hello. welcome to wednesday's show. i'm standing in but nicky campbell all this week on the nation's phone in. just when you thought it was safe to go on holiday, airport chaos is back. more than 1,800 flights — a quarter of a million passengers travelling to or from the uk have had theirjourneys cancelled in the last a8 hours. it is because something went wrong at travel services, the wrong bit of data entered on somewhere. it means endless delays, stuck at airports, trying to book a hotel, sleeping on airport floors, pre—booking flights, airport floors, pre—booking flights, a lot of it going out the pockets of passengers themselves. they will be compensated for that. they will get the money back, but what about the knock—on effect of this? mist work, cancelled events, mist hospital appointments in some cases, never mind the stress of the situation. you don't get compensation for that. the question this morning as who should pay. the airline say it is nothing to do with them and not their fault nothing to do with them and not theirfault and nothing to do with them and not their fault and may have to do tape for the disruption that is being caused, but some people are saying, they are not really fulfilling their obligations in supporting passengers. let us know how it has

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