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rather than the roads. yorkshire are investigating a new racism allegation — this time from a former academy cricketer. it comes after their new chairman said azeem rafiq should be praised for being a whistleblower on discrimination. this is poppies, an artwork that captured the nation back in 2014. i'll start to the day and a mild day generally. we have cloud and rain moving across england and wales and wales and showers in scotland and northern ireland with sunshine in between and wherever you are, it will be breezy. good morning. a man who was injured caving in the brecon beacons has been rescued after being trapped underground for two days. he is said to be in good spirits after 250 worked in shifts to bring him to safety. 0ur correspondence sent this report. mission accomplished. after more than two days of painstaking, exhausting work, relief all round. together, these volunteers carried the casualty through an underground assault course of boulders, streams and ledges, the longest stretcher carry ever by a british cave rescue team. it is absolutely amazing. the cooperation, the professionalism. everybody dealt with it. the controllers, down to the grunts at the sharp end, it was just amazing. it's the biggest rescue any of us have done, i hope we will ever do. the casualty is an experienced caver in his 405. on saturday, he fell and suffered multiple injuries, but could talk to his rescuers throughout. when you consider how long he has been in the cave, how long he has been on the stretcher, he is doing very well indeed. so he's been talking to the medics along the way and they have been having a conversation, but we are waiting for them to come out, now. this is what draws enthusiasts here. a sculpted subterranean world, in places almost 300 metres deep. it attracts cavers from across the uk. after 50 hours underground and the efforts of 250 volunteers, the casualty is now safe and on their way to hospital. bringing this rescue operation to a successful conclusion. for the volunteers, days of endeavour and years of training have tonight brought their reward. a 10—year—old boy has died after being attacked by a dog in south wales. the incident occurred at a house in caerphilly at around four o'clock yesterday afternoon. 0ur reporter tomos morgan is there for us this morning . what more can you tell us? we know the emergency services, police and ambulance, were called about 3:55pm yesterday. when the welsh ambulance service arrived at the scene, a ten—year—old boy had already died. it is believed he died after being attacked by a dog. the dog was destroyed. there is still a police presence here. yesterday evening, this road was cordoned off. the court and only came down in the early hours, as police continue investigations, trying to decipher what happened. we understand from a neighbour, they told the bbc they believe the incident happened in one of the homes on the street but that is not confirmed. police carrying on with investigations, trying to find out what happened here yesterday on the outskirts of caerphilly. the prime minister has refused to apologise over attempts to change the rules on how mps' standard of conduct should be in force. mr johnson was not at the debate with labour accusing him of running scared. adam fleming, there was anger across the house yesterday. 50 adam fleming, there was anger across the house yesterday.— the house yesterday. so many divisions on _ the house yesterday. so many divisions on display _ the house yesterday. so many divisions on display yesterday | the house yesterday. so many l divisions on display yesterday as mps discussed this. you have the opposition versus the government, the government represented by stephen barclay, the cabinet office minister. you had a former government chief whip, mark harper, saying the prime minister should apologise. then you had conservative mps elected at the last election being quite critical of longer serving conservative mps for being too sympathetic towards 0wen paterson, the mp about whom this was about. in the standards committee, mps who look at these cases, there were divisions about whether the committee operates correctly. it was like one of those windscreens that gets smashed and does not break but there are cracks all over it. the issue will not go away. because the standards committee would like there to be a vote on the 0wen paterson case. even though he has resigned as an mp and gone from the house of commons, they think there needs to be a rubber—stamping of the report. that committee is working on a code of conduct for mps in future, which is probably going to be published before the end of the year and i think that will cause another one of these debates about what are the rules around mps, are they allowed second jobs and how did they get punished? if they are found to have broken the rules. climate change is a far bigger problem than coronavirus potentially, the warning from the government's chief scientific adviser. sir sir patrick vallance said combating global warming will require technology and changes in behaviour. coronavirus has been devastating and effective people across the globe but it will settle down and it will go back to being a seasonal disease most likely. this is something that is getting worse over a long period. and without concerted, long—term action, it will continue to get worse. water companies are warned they will face consequences if they do not reduce the flow of sewage released into rivers. it comes after mps voted to accept a government amendment for tougher restrictions on the practice. it is hoped to end a row between the commons and lords on the issue but some say the new rules do not go far enough. poland has sent an extra 12,000 troops to its eastern border with belarus, in an attempt to stop migrants entering the country. video footage shows hundreds of people near a barbed—wire fence, with some attempting to force their way through. the polish government has accused belarus of trying to provoke a major confrontation by encouraging people to cross the border. rolls—royce has secured the funding it needs to push forward with a project to develop new small nuclear power plants. the investment will allow the engineering firm to work on designs for the reactors, which it hopes will be supplying low carbon energy to millions of homes by the end of the decade. critics say the focus should be on renewables — but the company insists nuclear has a part to play, too. jewellery that belonged to marie antoinette is up for auction in geneva and it is estimated the diamonds will sell for around £1.5 million. they are among rare and historically significant pieces on offer. a pair of bracelets containing 112 diamonds. they once graced the arm of marie antoinette. when the revolution began, france's last queen managed to save herjewels, smuggling them out with her daughter. she couldn't save herself. tonight, more than two centuries after her death, the bracelets will go to the highest bidder, blue—blooded or commoner. but for how much? pricewise, i don't think you can put a price on history. how much is someone willing to pay for something from the last queen of france. it's a piece of french history that has remained within those families for more than 200 years. and again, that is exceptionally rare to find, and especiallyjewels of such great quality. there's more royaljewellery — a huge sapphire and diamond brooch with matching earrings once owned by grand duchess maria pavlovna, the aunt of russia's last tsar. these jewels were smuggled out of bolshevik st petersburg, hidden in a newspaper. the duchess died in exile in france. and, finally, there's a rainbow of rare modern diamonds — pink, orange and yellow. but the stars of this week's auctions are undoubtedly the historicjewels, with their message, perhaps, that while diamonds are for ever, those who wear them, however grand, are not. diamond is not necessarily always your best friend. if you had 1.5 million, would you wear them? yes, all the time, every day. people who wear expensive watches. i do not have any expensive watches. is that because you would lose them. is that because you would lose them. i would take the watch off or lose it or drop it. i really like the idea that you wear your best stuff, your best dress, watch, whatever you can. if you had marie antoinette's jewellery. what is that? it belonged to the last french queen, i will have you know. sounds like 0nly have you know. sounds like only fools and horses! marie antoinette's jewellery, get your jewellery marie antoinette's jewellery, get yourjewellery here, £5! i am sorry. good morning, lovely to see you. good morning, lovely to see you. good morning. this morning is a mild start, milderthan good morning. this morning is a mild start, milder than yesterday. today and the next days, it will remain so. we have light wind, and the exception is in the far north of scotland and northern and western isles with gusts up to 50 mph into tomorrow and by the end of the week, a chance some of us could have strong winds, even gales. this morning fog in parts of the south—east. a weather front across southern scotland, northern england and wales. heading south with the rain. hill fog with that and a second weather front will bring showers. behind it, sunshine. showers across the north and west where we have gusty wind. and in the far south, staying dry until later. you can see how the cloud move south ahead of the weather front. temperatures ranging from 10—15, 16. 0vernight, we have the weather front producing rain in parts of england and wales. some fog in the hills associated with this. it sinks south and behind it showers continue. some clear skies in the north. in some sheltered glens in the north—east of scotland, temperature is low enough for frost. scotland, temperature is low enough forfrost. temperatures scotland, temperature is low enough for frost. temperatures closer to freezing and these temperatures represent what you can expect in towns and cities. in england and wales, temperatures holding up overnight. a mild start for england and wales. the weather front will weaken. producing cloud and spots of rain and behind it sunshine and showers. at times, cloud as well. gusty winds across the northern and western isles and far north scotland. by the end of the day, we will see a new weather front. that will see a new weather front. that will rain. temperatures tomorrow, nine in the north, about 15 in the south. millions of people in afghanistan are facing starvation this millions of people in afghanistan are facing starvation this winter millions of people in afghanistan are facing starvation this winter in what the un says is fast becoming the world's worst humanitarian crisis. the head of the world food programme said country risks turning into hell on earth following drought and the withdrawal of un troops. john simpson sent this report. winter's coming, and it looks like being a bad one. the camels are on the move to warmer areas. we're heading west out of kabul through the taliban roadblocks. it's not long before we reach the snow. injalrez district, food aid is being distributed, flour to make bread. everyone here knows that things are likely to get really bad in a few weeks. "there's a real possibility we'll be frozen this winter," this man tells me. these people are so poor, they can't afford to buy food orfuel for heating. a humanitarian disaster could bring the taliban down. so they're cooperating with the international aid agencies, even if they don't like them. the head of the world food programme visiting kabul doesn't mince his words. the winter months are coming. we're coming out of a drought. the next six months are going to be catastrophic. it is going to be hell on earth. we reach bamiyan, an agricultural centre which has been hit by drought, like many other parts of afghanistan. and of course, there was an infamous taliban crime here. a couple of hundred yards along the cliff from the place where the statues of the buddhas used to stand — until the taliban destroyed them — a woman called fatuma lives. she's a widow, raising her seven friendly, intelligent children on her own. before the taliban took over, she got by with occasional food aid and the money she and her eldest boy earned from weeding the fields and herding sheep. but the drought has put an end to all that, and food aid doesn't reach here. within weeks, they could all be starving. some women sell their daughters for marriage, i say. would she? "if it was absolutely necessary to keep everyone alive," she answers. but she'd hate it. listening to all this, it was hard not to think of your own family. imagine if this was your little girl or your little boy or your grandchild about to starve to death. you would do everything you possibly could. and when there's $400 trillion worth of wealth on the earth today, shame on us if we let any child die from hunger. fatima's children leave for school — those who are allowed to go. like millions in this country, their lives are under real threat. the next few months will decide. john simpson, bbc news, bamiyan. we will be speaking tojohn simpson later on the programme. let's take a look at today's papers. many of them leading on the fallout of the attempted overhaul on standards rules for mp5. the times' headline describes "anger as pm skips sleaze showdown" — referring to him missing a commons debate. the paper also says tory mps are calling on him to apologise. "just say sorry for the mess, prime minister" says the daily express on its front page. the paper says there's been "fury from the opposition and deep misgivings from many on his own side". the guardian carries this picture of sistersjill and louise who were reunited in new york after spending two years apart. the first double—jabbed foreign travellers arrived at us airports yesterday, after a 20—month covid—19 travel ban was lifted. that photo is brilliant. and one of the most read stories on the bbc website. the best time to get some sleep. researchers say the optimal bedtime is between 10pm and 11pm and if you go to sleep at that time it reduces your risk of heart attacks and strokes. going to bed too early, too late. i do go to bed between ten and 11. but you get up at three. i am causing issues at the other end of the day. astronauts can get saucy when they reach mars as the red planet's soil can grow tomatoes. tomato sauce. sorry about that. they can cultivate a crop in a bio dome with simulated atmosphere from the planet including its dusty soil. if we get to mars, you can have some tomato ketchup. you could take some with you. and nice picture. in the mirror newspaper, does your dog watch television? she quite likes rugby. not the answer i expected. look at this. a television channeljust for dogs. maybe if you have to leave your dog at home, you put the dog tally on. this is a great excuse. if you have a picture of your dog watching breakfast, send them through. i love these. apparently not going down too well with the dogs. i thought dogs could not see television. i have something to ask you here. a high—level question in the sun newspaper. how is dan still in the tv show? do you know what? tell me. when i watch strictly at home, i always think the test is do i want to see that couple dance next week? i have always said from the start, you have got to enjoy it and remember it is a privilege to be on the programme, you have got to work hard and improve every week and the best way to answer that. i had a chat with cecil in the park when i walked the dog on sunday and he came up. he had a chat and said do you mind if! up. he had a chat and said do you mind if i have a chat? i said far away. his wife, she died 30 odd years ago. they used to dance together. he said he stopped dancing when his wife died. he said he had watch strictly this year for the first time in a long time and he said watching you, the enjoyment you get from dancing, he goes, i have loved watching that so much. he has gone back and started having lessons again. that is what the programme is all about. can you as somebody who has never danced before bring the m has never danced before bring the joy that i have never understood comes from dancing until i started going on this programme. cecil, you said? may be cecil and lots of people like him are people who are voting. i do not know if cecil is voting, but whatever happens... it is a gorgeous thing. good morning, cecil. tens of thousands of ceramic poppies displayed at the tower of london have been given a permanent home. the original exhibition drew millions as part of the world war i centenary commemorations. 0ur reporter is by the poppies. this is poppies, part of the original artwork back in 2014. it really captured the nation back then when it marked the centenary of world war i. today it is in a permanent place, part of the artwork at imperial war museum north. almost 13,000 ceramic poppies now in their permanent place. the wave and weeping window together in a new display at imperial war museum. these were among nearly 900,000 poppies that made up the blood swept lands and seas of red installation at the tower of london in 2014. each poppy representing a life lost among the british and colonial forces on the front line of world war i. poppies are something we naturally associate with conflict, and that has its roots in the first world war. and we think of that conflict as one of devastation and destruction. but poppies were actually one of the few sources of brightness and colour in these devastated landscapes on the western front. more than five million people visited the original artwork marking the centenary of the war. the sections were exhibited around the country, including at st george's hall in liverpool and the silk mill in derby. the wave and the weeping window were bought for the nation in 2015 and donated to imperial war museum's permanent collection three years later. from the beginning to now, it's always needed to be, for me, a beautiful sight to see. and then you dive into it with the story behind it of the death and the destruction and people's sacrifice, what they fought for, and we still do. today, the sections are combined in a new design. poppies will open to the public tomorrow. just look at this, 30 metres high. it is bigger in terms of height, in terms of the installation that was at the tower of london. at many locations around the country, also, for many years. i am joined by the designer who helped to realise the vision of the artist. tom piper. you first saw this finished piece of work when you arrive today. what first saw this finished piece of work when you arrive today. what is our work when you arrive today. what is your impression? _ work when you arrive today. what is your impression? i— work when you arrive today. what is your impression? i am _ work when you arrive today. what is your impression? i am really- work when you arrive today. what is your impression? i am really proud. j your impression? i am really proud. it has been a huge team effort from the whole team who have been welding away two months to create it. over 10,000 poppies and beautiful to have it in a permanent installation, integrated into the building. the vision that the artist had was very dramatic. it was very new, never been done before. how did you help him realise that vision? i was him realise that vision? i was brou:ht him realise that vision? i was brought on-board _ him realise that vision? i was brought on-board originally l him realise that vision? i wasl brought on-board originally by him realise that vision? nw; brought on—board originally by the tower of london to help create it on the ground. i came up with the additional metaphors of the poppies behaving like blood flowing out of the building, so the one that poured out of the window and went under the bridges. and because it was a huge undertaking trying to install it. we thought we would do it in three weeks but realised it was such a big problem logistically to make that many poppies and plant them so it became a three month long installation where the public got so involved with 20,000 volunteers who planted it. we finished it on the 10th of november and it had one day and then we took it apart. everybody bought them and thousands of people across the world have a poppy. it lives on through them and also this installation here.— lives on through them and also this installation here. people might have foraotten installation here. people might have forgotten that _ installation here. people might have forgotten that every _ installation here. people might have forgotten that every poppy - installation here. people might have forgotten that every poppy is - installation here. people might have forgotten that every poppy is made l forgotten that every poppy is made by hand, representing a life lost. fit, by hand, representing a life lost. powerful metaphor that paul brought to the poppy. it represents an individual person and i found to the poppy. it represents an individual person and ifound it moving around the country, with the installation, working with volunteers and hearing their stories of loss in the first world war and subsequent conflicts, and for me it has been a powerful installation that highlights the traumatic loss of life in war and in a way it should be telling us to think carefully before going into that situation again. it is carefully before going into that situation again.— carefully before going into that situation again. it is a dramatic installation _ situation again. it is a dramatic installation now, _ situation again. it is a dramatic installation now, bringing - situation again. it is a dramatic - installation now, bringing together to create something new. we reaponded — to create something new. - responded to the buildings when we went around the country. when we went around the country. when we went to the mining museum, rather than seven metres high, we looked at the wheel and thought let's come off that. here it is the same, i have come into the building, how will we respond and use that height? still have the idea of it being like a liquid pouring down. to make the poppies bounce of the building and curled around so this drama in the installation. the curled around so this drama in the installation-_ installation. the final poppy has not been put — installation. the final poppy has not been put in _ installation. the final poppy has not been put in place. _ installation. the final poppy has not been put in place. we - installation. the final poppy has not been put in place. we will. installation. the final poppy has| not been put in place. we will do thatjust not been put in place. we will do that just after 8am and not been put in place. we will do thatjust after 8am and include a family who lost their son in battle in 2007. thank you. that is spectacularly beautiful. i remember the original installation at the tower of london. so beautiful. time now to get the news where you are. good morning. i'm asad ahmad. ambulances at a hospital in hertfordshire are having to sometimes wait up to five hours to hand over patients to an a&e department. and while they're at the lister hospital in stevenage, they could be in a queue of almost a dozen ambulances waiting to do the same. east and north hertfordshire nhs trust accepts the situation is "extremely seriously". but they say they believe they "do better than many other places". after the recent shortage of hgv drivers, there's a warning of a shortage of security and other staff working in london's night—time economy. as demand for security staff has increased at covid testing sites and shopping centres, there aren't the staff to fill all the vacancies left behind, which means some venues might have to reduce their hours or close altogether. over the last 19 months, you know, of closure, particularly for the businesses that predominantly use security, many of those people have had to find work elsewhere. on top of that you've got brexit and you've also got the requirement in the public realm for more security. a bus company has started offering free travel passes to the homeless. reading buses has teamed—up with the homeless prevention charity, launchpad, to help people make essentialjourneys. the company already offers discounted travel to people withjob centre plus cards, who actively looking for work. a look at the travel situation now. now the weather with kate. good morning. it is a misty start but a very mild one. temperatures overnight and stayed in double figures. we do have a cold front bearing towards us. that will bring more cloud. ahead of it we are hanging onto this mild air. we got a few bites bells when the mist and fog lifts. we will still soy season bright and sunny spells. clouds thickening towards the end of the afternoon as heads south. maximum temperatures 16 celsius. very mild. 0vernight that cold front really takes its time. it is gradually going to increase the cloud. some spots of rain potentially as we head into wednesday. the minimum temperature between nine and 11 celsius. another mild night. that cold front stalls and stays with us through tomorrow. patchy rain. there is to remaining cloudy. you will notice that area of low pressure coming in from the west, heading towards us towards the end of the week. that turns the weather more unsettled on friday. the temperature stay mild but gradually getting a little bit chillier as we had through the weekend. i'm back in half an hour. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast, with sally nugent and dan walker. coming up on breakfast this morning. his most gruelling challenge yet — we catch up with rugby star kevin sinfield as he prepares to run 101 miles in one day. safe at last — we'll speak to some of those involved in that remarkable two day cave rescue in the brecon beacons. and a life in lyrics — comedian rob brydonjoins us to discuss his musicaljourney from wales to the west end. over the past month, we've showed you some incredible and frankly unpleasant pictures of sewage being discharged into rivers and coastlines in england. it's an issue which has caused a huge public outcry, and mps have now voted in favour of a government compromise to place a legal duty on water companies to reduce the flow of waste into waterways. but do the new proposals go far enough? let's put that question to campaigner hudo tagholm from surfers against sewage. good morning to you. give us an idea of how you feel about this latest development?— of how you feel about this latest development? thank you. you 'ust mentioned the fi development? thank you. you 'ust mentioned the shocking * development? thank you. you just mentioned the shocking images i development? thank you. you just l mentioned the shocking images you have shown over the past month. this is a huge _ have shown over the past month. this is a huge issue. we are disappointed by the _ is a huge issue. we are disappointed by the vote _ is a huge issue. we are disappointed by the vote last night. we have been working _ by the vote last night. we have been working on— by the vote last night. we have been working on the top duke of wellington amendment, trying to push that through this process. sadly, mps didn't vote for this last night. it mps didn't vote for this last night. it would _ mps didn't vote for this last night. it would have been a better reflection of the public mood run the sheer— reflection of the public mood run the sheer volume of sewage pollution --oin the sheer volume of sewage pollution going into _ the sheer volume of sewage pollution going into our rivers and coastline. something — going into our rivers and coastline. something the public want to see an end to _ something the public want to see an end to we _ something the public want to see an end to. we felt the duke of wellington amendment was a tougher step forward. there are good things in the _ step forward. there are good things in the government's amendment by the duke of— in the government's amendment by the duke of wellington amendment would have gone further and faster and set out a _ have gone further and faster and set out a better— have gone further and faster and set out a better framework to take action — out a better framework to take action. ~ ~' ., out a better framework to take action. ~ ~ ., ., , , action. we know that you represent surfers. action. we know that you represent surfers- give _ action. we know that you represent surfers. give us _ action. we know that you represent surfers. give us an _ action. we know that you represent surfers. give us an idea _ action. we know that you represent surfers. give us an idea of - action. we know that you represent surfers. give us an idea of some . action. we know that you represent surfers. give us an idea of some of| surfers. give us an idea of some of the stories you have been hearing, some of those tales about what people have been experiencing, to get an idea of how bad the problem is in places?— is in places? absolutely. we represent — is in places? absolutely. we represent more _ is in places? absolutely. we represent more than - is in places? absolutely. we represent more than surfersj is in places? absolutely. we - represent more than surfers and work on a range _ represent more than surfers and work on a range of— represent more than surfers and work on a range of issues. the figures speak— on a range of issues. the figures speak for— on a range of issues. the figures speak for themselves. 400,000 separate — speak for themselves. 400,000 separate sewage pollution events last year. — separate sewage pollution events last year, over 3 million hours of sewage — last year, over 3 million hours of sewage pollution going into rivers and coastlines. i have served at the moutb— and coastlines. i have served at the mouth of— and coastlines. i have served at the mouth of rivers that have pollution coming _ mouth of rivers that have pollution coming down them. i have swum through— coming down them. i have swum through sewage plumes. many of our members _ through sewage plumes. many of our members are people who just through sewage plumes. many of our members are people whojust bathe in the summertime. they report a gastroenteritis to us and other things— gastroenteritis to us and other things related to sewage pollution. 0ur things related to sewage pollution. our rivers — things related to sewage pollution. 0ur rivers and coastlines should be the jewel— 0ur rivers and coastlines should be the jewel in — 0ur rivers and coastlines should be the jewel in the crown of the stair code _ the jewel in the crown of the stair code of— the jewel in the crown of the stair code of the — the jewel in the crown of the stair code of the ecosystem restoration. we hope _ code of the ecosystem restoration. we hope this amendment will hold the water companies to account. that is what _ water companies to account. that is what we _ water companies to account. that is what we are — water companies to account. that is what we are campaigning in now. we want to— what we are campaigning in now. we want to make sure their huge profits are diverted into protecting and restoring — are diverted into protecting and restoring nature for everyone, and stopping _ restoring nature for everyone, and stopping people from having to have the risk— stopping people from having to have the risk of— stopping people from having to have the risk of bathing or swimming ? where _ the risk of bathing or swimming ? where swimming in sewage pollution. the problem is, as with many issues, it is cost. it would cost billions of pounds to rectify this issue, wouldn't it? it of pounds to rectify this issue, wouldn't it?— wouldn't it? it is a really good oint. wouldn't it? it is a really good point- cost — wouldn't it? it is a really good point. cost is _ wouldn't it? it is a really good point. cost is always - wouldn't it? it is a really good point. cost is always front - wouldn't it? it is a really goodj point. cost is always front and centre — point. cost is always front and centre of— point. cost is always front and centre of people's minds. but we need _ centre of people's minds. but we need to— centre of people's minds. but we need to have the right debate around that. need to have the right debate around that there _ need to have the right debate around that. there have been some wildly inflated _ that. there have been some wildly inflated numbers. no one is calling for a full— inflated numbers. no one is calling for a full separation of our sewage and surface water, which we currently _ and surface water, which we currently have. we are calling for distinct _ currently have. we are calling for distinct pieces of action to stop the worst— distinct pieces of action to stop the worst of sewage pollution. this is not _ the worst of sewage pollution. this is not going to cost £600 billion. this will— is not going to cost £600 billion. this will cost somewhere between four and _ this will cost somewhere between four and 60 billion. 0ver this will cost somewhere between four and 60 billion. over the past 30 years— four and 60 billion. over the past 30 years the water industry has made £60 billion— 30 years the water industry has made £60 billion in profits given out to shareholders. this is something that is affordable. it won't add a huge amount— is affordable. it won't add a huge amount to — is affordable. it won't add a huge amount to water bills. it will protect— amount to water bills. it will protect vital environments for now and the _ protect vital environments for now and the future. i don't think we should — and the future. i don't think we should be — and the future. i don't think we should be distracted by that. this is about— should be distracted by that. this is about making sure we have rivers fitted _ is about making sure we have rivers fitted to _ is about making sure we have rivers fitted to swim and a coastline we can truly— fitted to swim and a coastline we can truly celebrate. fine fitted to swim and a coastline we can truly celebrate.— fitted to swim and a coastline we can truly celebrate. one phrase that eo - le can truly celebrate. one phrase that people might _ can truly celebrate. one phrase that people might hear _ can truly celebrate. one phrase that people might hear quite _ can truly celebrate. one phrase that people might hear quite a _ can truly celebrate. one phrase that people might hear quite a bit - can truly celebrate. one phrase that people might hear quite a bit at - can truly celebrate. one phrase that people might hear quite a bit at the | people might hear quite a bit at the moment with regards to this issue is progressive reduction. feargal sharkey has been a key campaigner on this. concerned about those amendments you were mentioning where companies are allowed, as long as they show aggressive reduction they can carry on, and the point he makes is that if you are dumping, let's say for example, 3 million tonnes of sewage into the rivers and you reduce that by it on, you can claim thatis reduce that by it on, you can claim that is progressive reduction. what he of that argument i is it an important one to make? absolutely. some of the — important one to make? absolutely. some of the vagueness _ important one to make? absolutely. some of the vagueness of _ important one to make? absolutely. some of the vagueness of that - some of the vagueness of that amendment that has gone through. we have to _ amendment that has gone through. we have to pay— amendment that has gone through. we have to pay attention to make sure the government is holding water companies to account, that of the government is funding the regulator is empowering the regulators during -- to— is empowering the regulators during -- to truly— is empowering the regulators during —— to truly take action now, to make sure _ —— to truly take action now, to make sure water— —— to truly take action now, to make sure water companies can't put their profits— sure water companies can't put their profits ahead of protecting the environment. we need a decade of investment— environment. we need a decade of investment and change and nature -based _ investment and change and nature —based solutions, and enhanced solutions— —based solutions, and enhanced solutions to solve this problem. that _ solutions to solve this problem. that is— solutions to solve this problem. that is what happened in the 1990s, when _ that is what happened in the 1990s, when we _ that is what happened in the 1990s, when we first started out campaigning. it was tough legislation. it forced water companies to act. that delivered the first wave _ companies to act. that delivered the first wave of— companies to act. that delivered the first wave of change to tackle sewage — first wave of change to tackle sewage pollution in the 1990s. we need the _ sewage pollution in the 1990s. we need the same now, the same vision and ambition — need the same now, the same vision and ambition to create driving oceans — and ambition to create driving oceans and rivers for everyone for the future — oceans and rivers for everyone for the future-— the future. good to talk to you. thank you _ the future. good to talk to you. thank you very _ the future. good to talk to you. thank you very much. - the future. good to talk to you. thank you very much. speaking the future. good to talk to you. i thank you very much. speaking to the future. good to talk to you. - thank you very much. speaking to us from cornwall, which is like a server's paradise.— from cornwall, which is like a server's paradise. maybe not all of the time. server's paradise. maybe not all of the time- cat _ server's paradise. maybe not all of the time. cat is _ server's paradise. maybe not all of the time. cat is here _ server's paradise. maybe not all of the time. cat is here with - server's paradise. maybe not all of the time. cat is here with the - the time. cat is here with the sport. more developments in the story from yorkshire in the last few hours? yes, cricket still very much under the spotlight and a huge new online survey opens today run by the independent commissioner —— the independent commissioner —— the independent commissioner —— the independent commission into quality, a new body calling for people from elite levels of support to grass roots, to go online and share their experiences of discrimination and abuse in the sport. good morning. a former yorkshire county cricket club academy player says he was racially abused by a member of staff, in the latest allegation of racism against the club. yorkshire say they will investigate. this comes after the new chairman apologised to former captain azeem rafiq after his experiences of racism at yorkshire. lord patel said the club's investigation into mr rafiq's allegations, after which no one was disciplined, had been badly handled. we need to learn from our mistakes and ensure the right people are in place and ensure we do better. not only in terms of the root issues of racism or discrimination, but also how, as a club, we deal with any issues that arise going forward. newcastle's wait for a new manager is finally over. many people expected eddie howe to take the job at stjames' park, and now it's been confirmed. the former bournemouth boss replaces steve bruce, who was sacked shortly after the saudi arabian backed takeover of the club was completed. amanda staveley described eddie howe as a passionate coach. here's what some newcastle fans think of the appointment. i think it'll be tricky. but even if we do go down to the championship, i think he's got what it takes to get us back up. so, yeah, ithink he'll do a good job. he's an attacking manager, so hopefully he'll shore up the defence a bit and we'll see some good football at st james'. he's got experience. i think that's what you need right now, because you don't want to bring someone in who hasn't had a relegation battle before. he's got to do a lot better than his predecessor was. i think he's an intelligent man. i think that's what you need as a modern manager. - arsenal's emile smith rowe has been called up to the senior england men s squad for the first time. smith rowe was due to join the under 21s, but was upgraded to the senior squad for the world cup qualifiers against albania and san marino. marcus rashford, james ward prowse, mason mount and luke shaw have pulled out with injury and illness. you may have seen the row in modern pentathlon, with the governing body deciding to remove the horse riding discipline and replace it with another sport for 2028. it is, in part, a reaction to events at the tokyo games, when one horse was struck by a coach for refusing to compete. there's been strong opposition from pentathletes, who want to preserve their sport. team gb�*s olympic champion joe choong is one of almost 700 athletes, to sign a petition, calling for the president of the international union to stand down. it's one of the original olympic sports — it's one of the original olympic sports it— it's one of the original olympic sports. it was invented at the same time as— sports. it was invented at the same time as the — sports. it was invented at the same time as the current olympic movement in i912~ _ time as the current olympic movement in i912~ we _ time as the current olympic movement in 1912. we have got 109 years of history — in 1912. we have got 109 years of history no — in 1912. we have got 109 years of history. no other multisport tests athletes _ history. no other multisport tests athletes over such a range of different, contrasting sports. i think— different, contrasting sports. i think without that history behind us, i_ think without that history behind us, i would think without that history behind us, iwould really think without that history behind us, i would really question the pentathlon's place in the olympics, which _ pentathlon's place in the olympics, which is _ pentathlon's place in the olympics, which is why it is so important to keep— which is why it is so important to keep the — which is why it is so important to keep the five sports together. you can't help but think it may not have been what was in mind when the pentathlon was designed. it was fencing, running, swimming, riding, the shooting. if they're going to take that out of... and also, what an entertaining party. it is take that out of. .. and also, what an entertaining party.— an entertaining party. it is one of the best things _ an entertaining party. it is one of the best things to _ an entertaining party. it is one of the best things to watch. - an entertaining party. it is one of the best things to watch. joe - an entertaining party. it is one of. the best things to watch. joe chung and kate french _ the best things to watch. joe chung and kate french both _ the best things to watch. joe chung and kate french both won - the best things to watch. joe chung and kate french both won gold - the best things to watch. joe chung and kate french both won gold and| and kate french both won gold and they both got the same horse. ask that a german rider. she was leading as well. she just saw her olympic champs as completely dissolve by the fact hurst didn't want tojump. is dissolve by the fact hurst didn't want to jump. is that fair? these people competing for four years ? were preparing for four years. people competing for four years ? were preparing forfour years. it all depends which choice you are allocated. d0 all depends which choice you are allocated. , ., all depends which choice you are allocated. . ., ,, . allocated. do you classic with tinker -- _ allocated. do you classic with tinker -- tinker _ allocated. do you classic with tinker -- tinker with - allocated. do you classic with tinker -- tinker with classic l allocated. do you classic with - tinker -- tinker with classic sport? tinker —— tinker with classic sport? i do not. it tinker -- tinker with classic sport? i do not. ., , tinker -- tinker with classic sport? idonot. . ., , tinker -- tinker with classic sport? idonot. ., , , i do not. it was certainly very dramatic- _ i do not. it was certainly very dramatic. we _ i do not. it was certainly very dramatic. we certainly - i do not. it was certainly very i dramatic. we certainly enjoyed i do not. it was certainly very - dramatic. we certainly enjoyed our double gold. could trains be the solution to the problems caused by the lorry driver shortage we've been hearing about? nina's at a depot in peterborough to find out more. good morning. isn't it beautiful? good morning. isn't it beautiful? good morning — good morning. isn't it beautiful? good morning from _ good morning. isn't it beautiful? i good morning from peterborough, where the sun is coming up. in that office there are a handful of offers from gb railfreight, a handful of around 1000 members of staff. they tentacles stretch around the uk. they are the third biggest rail freight company in the country. they take containers from across the continent, deliver them to different parts of the country, where they are then taken to supermarket shelves, into our homes. we don't even know whether in these containers that have just arrived with a cup of could be anything from christmas decorations to jumpers, could be anything from christmas decorations tojumpers, car could be anything from christmas decorations to jumpers, car parts and chemicals. they are faster and go further than hgv lorries. that is why they are being asked to step up to help with the hgv driver crisis. extra services are being laid on to guarantee more than 4.5 million bottles of wine in time for christmas. that is to mitigate the problems around the hgv driver shortage. tesco is looking towards this as a solution. they are planning to increase the number of containers on rail freight every yearfrom 65,000 containers on rail freight every year from 65,000 annually, containers on rail freight every yearfrom 65,000 annually, to 90,000 by the end of this year. they say that will save tens of millions of road miles every year. now each train, it's millions of road miles every year. now each train, its estimated, takes 60 hgv lorries off the road, therefore a meeting and a third of therefore a meeting and a third of the emissions of air travel and around a third of the emissions of road travel. really good for the environment. but at the moment around £30 billion worth of goods, and freight trains every year. about and freight trains every year. about a 10th of the goods that ended up in our shops. massive potential for growth. dave is in charge of the trains here. he has seen increased demand as we come out of covid. good morning. i much of a surge have you seen in demand forfreight use on of a surge have you seen in demand for freight use on the railways? good morning. welcome to peterborough. welcome to gb railfreight. we have been working guite _ railfreight. we have been working quite hard over the last 18 months i’ili'lt quite hard over the last 18 months right through the pandemic. our colleagues were working overtime 18 months _ colleagues were working overtime 18 months ago to move things like ppe and medical supplies. the same colleagues are now working overtime as we _ colleagues are now working overtime as we face _ colleagues are now working overtime as we face those supply chain challenges. we as we face those supply chain challenges-— as we face those supply chain challenues. ~ ~' ., ., ., ., challenges. we know that almost half of adults in the _ challenges. we know that almost half of adults in the uk _ challenges. we know that almost half of adults in the uk have _ challenges. we know that almost half of adults in the uk have noticed - of adults in the uk have noticed something missing from the shelves in the past few months. how ambitious is it to say that freight trains could overtake hgv lorries to help with that problem? the supply chain is a mixture _ help with that problem? the supply chain is a mixture of _ help with that problem? the supply chain is a mixture of both _ help with that problem? the supply chain is a mixture of both modes i help with that problem? the supply chain is a mixture of both modes of| chain is a mixture of both modes of transport _ chain is a mixture of both modes of transport but certainly freight is a cornerstone of the national supply chain— cornerstone of the national supply chain network. and we should be using _ chain network. and we should be using more — chain network. and we should be using more of it. it is an economic as well— using more of it. it is an economic as well as — using more of it. it is an economic as well as environmentally friendly way of— as well as environmentally friendly way of moving goods, particularly when _ way of moving goods, particularly when we — way of moving goods, particularly when we face a shortage of hgv drivers— when we face a shortage of hgv drivers we — when we face a shortage of hgv drivers we ought to be using those scarce _ drivers we ought to be using those scarce resources for the last few miles— scarce resources for the last few miles and — scarce resources for the last few miles and moving the majority of the distance _ miles and moving the majority of the distance by— miles and moving the majority of the distance by rail freight. miles and moving the majority of the distance by railfreight. i�*m distance by railfreight. i'm thinkin: distance by railfreight. i'm thinking about _ distance by railfreight. i“n thinking about the scarcity on the lines, especially as we see an increase in passenger numbers. how do you logistically overcome that? you are competing for space on the railway lines. brute you are competing for space on the railway lines-— railway lines. we are collaborating ve well railway lines. we are collaborating very well with _ railway lines. we are collaborating very well with network _ railway lines. we are collaborating very well with network rail - railway lines. we are collaborating very well with network rail at - railway lines. we are collaborating very well with network rail at the | very well with network rail at the moment, — very well with network rail at the moment, so the whole industry has come _ moment, so the whole industry has come together. the ports are giving us priority — come together. the ports are giving us priority. network rail are easing some _ us priority. network rail are easing some restrictions on the network. we have an _ some restrictions on the network. we have an open — some restrictions on the network. we have an open access agreement, so we find our— have an open access agreement, so we find our way— have an open access agreement, so we find our way through that networking between _ find our way through that networking between passenger traffic. we noticed — between passenger traffic. we noticed during the covid crisis when there _ noticed during the covid crisis when there was— noticed during the covid crisis when there was a — noticed during the covid crisis when there was a downturn in passenger numbers— there was a downturn in passenger numbers and timetables reduced, we have more _ numbers and timetables reduced, we have more capacity. that needs to be for good, _ have more capacity. that needs to be for good, not — have more capacity. that needs to be for good, notjust have more capacity. that needs to be for good, not just christmas. have more capacity. that needs to be for good, notjust christmas. it�*s for good, not 'ust christmas. it's ossible for good, not 'ust christmas. it's possible to — for good, notjust christmas. ut�*s possible to increase in tandem with the increased passenger numbers. finally, presumably there is a problem with recruiting and training hgv drivers, similarfor you? taste problem with recruiting and training hgv drivers, similar for you? we are a rurowin hgv drivers, similar for you? we are a growing business _ hgv drivers, similar for you? we are a growing business and _ hgv drivers, similar for you? we are a growing business and have - hgv drivers, similar for you? we are a growing business and have been i a growing business and have been since _ a growing business and have been since 1999, so we are used to recruiting _ since 1999, so we are used to recruiting people. we are used to training _ recruiting people. we are used to training people. you are here at the brand-new— training people. you are here at the brand—new training facility where we train our— brand—new training facility where we train our drivers. there are 90 going — train our drivers. there are 90 going through training at the moment and the _ going through training at the moment and the pipeline is full. it's a good — and the pipeline is full. it's a good problem to have. it and the pipeline is full. it's a good problem to have. it will be interesting _ good problem to have. it will be interesting to _ good problem to have. it will be interesting to see _ good problem to have. it will be interesting to see how- good problem to have. it will be interesting to see how much i good problem to have. it will be interesting to see how much it | good problem to have. it will be i interesting to see how much it takes off the roads going forward. there is a bottleneck. it takes around six months to train drivers here. there is a high percentage of them who don't get through the first round of tests. there is a campaign happening at the moment. we have been talking at the moment. we have been talking a lot about cop26. there is a campaign that freight belongs on rail. a big campaign to boost what we are seeing here in peterborough. important to say that over the weekend we did see the first 643 bottles of wine making their way from the thames estuary to the midlands by this extra service that has been laid on. panic not, sally, i know you are keen on a glass of claret over christmas. fingers crossed it will make it all the way to you in manchester. i was going to make the same joke back to you! so predictable. you know each other far too well. i so predictable. you know each other far too well-— far too well. i was going to bring carol n. far too well. i was going to bring carolyn- maybe _ far too well. i was going to bring carolyn. maybe have _ far too well. i was going to bring carolyn. maybe have some i far too well. i was going to bring carolyn. maybe have some per l far too well. i was going to bring i carolyn. maybe have some per sector around at her house. —— carol. good morning. today we are looking at him i'll start to the day and it is going to be a mild day generally. that is the forecast for the next few days. light winds as well. the exception is across the far north of scotland, the northern and western isles, where it will be quite gusty. we have got of weather front which has been with this overnight producing some rain across northern ireland, southern scotland, northern england as well. but for the rest of us it's very cloudy but dry. patchy fog in the south—east. in the north we are looking at areas of cloud, but still some sunny skies coming through. that is called a star to the day as it was yesterday. northern ireland you will see the weather front bringing the rain. continuing across southern scotland, northern england, north wales. ahead of that some brighter breaks in the cloud. a little bit of sunshine. areas of cloud too. compared to this time yesterday morning we are looking at milder conditions. —— wilder conditions. through the day the weather front continues to very slowly move southwards. hill fog, rain and the cloud out of it will continue to push south as well. but it won't get into the far south of england, where we are likely to hang on to the sunshiny longest. along the south coast you may catch siad shower. showers moving across scotland, getting into northern ireland. some of those could be quite sharp. behind them we are looking at sunshine. these are the temperatures. ten to 16 degrees. light winds. just a breeze, apart from the north of scotland where we have the gusty winds. they will be with us again tonight. clear skies in the north—east. temperatures will fall away. the weather front slips south. rain and hill fog associated with this. in england and wales in particular is going to be another mild night. behind the weatherfront we will see it turning that bit cooler in the north and cold enough in sheltered vents in the north—east for a touch of frost. we started tomorrow with some sunshine. showers packing in on the breeze. you can see too we have a weak weather front south, producing all this cloud and some patchy rain. temperatures from nine in the north to 15 in the south. gusty winds in the northern and western isles, and the far north of scotland. another weatherford waiting in the wings is good to be coming our way during the course of thursday. it will slip southwards. 0n thursday. it will slip southwards. on thursday we have got a ridge of high pressure setting things down. areas of cloud, some sunshine. by the end of the day it looks like we will see some rain coming into northern ireland, strengthening winds. potentially on friday some strong winds with gales and heavy rain. i will tell you strong winds with gales and heavy rain. iwill tell you more strong winds with gales and heavy rain. i will tell you more about that as we go through the week. a year after running seven marathons in seven days, rugby star kevin sinfield is again preparing to lace up his trainers for an epic challenge in aid of motor neurone disease research. this time, kevin will be attempting to run 101 miles injust 24 hours. the route will take him from rugby union club leicester tigers, where he currently works as defence coach, to his old league club, leeds rhinos. he's doing it once again to help his friend and former teammate, rob burrow, who was diagnosed with mnd in 2019. we've been catching up with kevin, and his new team, ahead of the challenge. kev is one of those people who when he speaks, you listen.— he speaks, you listen. people cravitate he speaks, you listen. people gravitate towards _ he speaks, you listen. people gravitate towards him - he speaks, you listen. people| gravitate towards him because he speaks, you listen. people i gravitate towards him because he is so decent — gravitate towards him because he is so decent. humble. it sounds like i have _ so decent. humble. it sounds like i have got— so decent. humble. it sounds like i have got a — so decent. humble. it sounds like i have got a massive man crush. i probably— have got a massive man crush. i probably do. have got a massive man crush. i probably do— have got a massive man crush. i probably do. have got a massive man crush. i robabl do. , , ., i. probably do. the way he speaks, you aotta probably do. the way he speaks, you gotta listen- — probably do. the way he speaks, you gotta listen. his _ probably do. the way he speaks, you gotta listen. his presence _ probably do. the way he speaks, you gotta listen. his presence light i probably do. the way he speaks, you gotta listen. his presence light up i gotta listen. his presence light up a room _ gotta listen. his presence light up a room in — gotta listen. his presence light up a room in those _ gotta listen. his presence light up a room in those team _ gotta listen. his presence light up a room in those team meetings. i gotta listen. his presence light up i a room in those team meetings. he: doesn't a room in those team meetings. doesn't say much because he still doesn't _ doesn't say much because he still doesn't know what is going on about. that is— doesn't know what is going on about. that is the _ doesn't know what is going on about. that is the reality of it. he is still— that is the reality of it. he is still talking about sets of six. i'm like, _ still talking about sets of six. i'm like. cared — still talking about sets of six. i'm like, cared for, get it out of your system, — like, cared for, get it out of your system, made. it's _ system, made. it's been a huge challenge switching. the sports are similar but massively different as well. i didn't know anybody. i started from scratch. i suppose in many ways rob and what we did for rob last december, pushed me down this route my thing, the fact you had to take some risks and try to get the most out of your life. this opportunity presented itself. it's been great. he has brought quiet authority. he is very— he has brought quiet authority. he is very comfortable in his own skin as a coach — is very comfortable in his own skin as a coach it _ is very comfortable in his own skin as a coach. it took me ages, years, and you _ as a coach. it took me ages, years, and you can — as a coach. it took me ages, years, and you can see why he was captain for so _ and you can see why he was captain for so long — and you can see why he was captain for so long. those are the qualities he brings — for so long. those are the qualities he brings a— for so long. those are the qualities he brings. a quiet leadership. my wife he brings. a quiet leadership. m wife suggested running he brings. a quiet leadership. mg wife suggested running with both clubs. it was all inspired by rob. he will be in all of our heads and hearts when we take on the run. we are going to do our best for him. l are going to do our best for him. i think it's crazy, to be fair. it works— think it's crazy, to be fair. it works out— think it's crazy, to be fair. it works out to be 160 kilometres or something. credit to him. he is doing _ something. credit to him. he is doing it for— something. credit to him. he is doing it for a good mate of his struggling at the moment. itjust shows— struggling at the moment. itjust shows the — struggling at the moment. itjust shows the character of him. the guy you want— shows the character of him. the guy you want to — shows the character of him. the guy you want to go into the trenches with because he do anything for you. everybody— with because he do anything for you. everybody here is proud of him. good _ everybody here is proud of him. good morning, leicestertigers. inspirational, _ good morning, leicestertigers. inspirational, admirable, - good morning, leicester tigers. i inspirational, admirable, incredible and what _ inspirational, admirable, incredible and what a — inspirational, admirable, incredible and what a fantastic _ inspirational, admirable, incredible and what a fantastic thing - inspirational, admirable, incredible and what a fantastic thing to - inspirational, admirable, incredible and what a fantastic thing to do i inspirational, admirable, incredible and what a fantastic thing to do for| and what a fantastic thing to do for and what a fantastic thing to do for a friend _ and what a fantastic thing to do for a friend what _ and what a fantastic thing to do for a friend. what more _ and what a fantastic thing to do for a friend. what more could - and what a fantastic thing to do for a friend. what more could you i and what a fantastic thing to do for a friend. what more could you do? it's a friend. what more could you do? it'sjust_ a friend. what more could you do? it'sjust awesome. _ a friend. what more could you do? it's just awesome. he _ a friend. what more could you do? it's just awesome.— a friend. what more could you do? it's just awesome. it's 'ust awesome. he is doing great at it'sjust awesome. he is doing great at the minute- _ it'sjust awesome. he is doing great at the minute. he _ it'sjust awesome. he is doing great at the minute. he is _ it'sjust awesome. he is doing great at the minute. he is pulling - at the minute. he is pulling together for the defence. he's a great _ together for the defence. he's a great bloke. he's running from leicester— great bloke. he's running from leicester to leeds rhinos, 100 miles — leicester to leeds rhinos, 100 miles. ., , , miles. one of the first things kev soke to miles. one of the first things kev spoke to us _ miles. one of the first things kev spoke to us about _ miles. one of the first things kev spoke to us about when - miles. one of the first things kev spoke to us about when he i miles. one of the first things kevl spoke to us about when he arrived was you _ spoke to us about when he arrived was you play— spoke to us about when he arrived was you play with _ spoke to us about when he arrived was you play with your— spoke to us about when he arrived was you play with your mates i spoke to us about when he arrived was you play with your mates and i spoke to us about when he arrived i was you play with your mates and you -et was you play with your mates and you get a _ was you play with your mates and you get a bond _ was you play with your mates and you get a bond that— was you play with your mates and you get a bond that lasts _ was you play with your mates and you get a bond that lasts a _ was you play with your mates and you get a bond that lasts a lifetime. i get a bond that lasts a lifetime. the bond — get a bond that lasts a lifetime. the bond he _ get a bond that lasts a lifetime. the bond he has _ get a bond that lasts a lifetime. the bond he has with— get a bond that lasts a lifetime. the bond he has with his - get a bond that lasts a lifetime. - the bond he has with his team—mates, with leeds, _ the bond he has with his team—mates, with leeds, he — the bond he has with his team—mates, with leeds, he has _ the bond he has with his team—mates, with leeds, he has built— the bond he has with his team—mates, with leeds, he has built that _ the bond he has with his team—mates, with leeds, he has built that with- with leeds, he has built that with leicester~ — with leeds, he has built that with leicester~ it— with leeds, he has built that with leicester. it inspires _ with leeds, he has built that with leicester. it inspires him - with leeds, he has built that with leicester. it inspires him to- with leeds, he has built that with leicester. it inspires him to run. i leicester. it inspires him to run. since _ leicester. it inspires him to run. since i've — leicester. it inspires him to run. since we met _ leicester. it inspires him to run. since i've met kev— leicester. it inspires him to run. since i've met kev he _ leicester. it inspires him to run. since i've met kev he has - leicester. it inspires him to run. i since i've met kev he has actually made _ since i've met kev he has actually made me — since i've met kev he has actually made me feel really bad about myself because _ made me feel really bad about myself because he's a pretty good man, isn't _ because he's a pretty good man, isn't it? — because he's a pretty good man, isn't it? its— because he's a pretty good man, isn't it? it's pretty special. it's a ridiculous— isn't it? it's pretty special. it's a ridiculous challenge, isn't it? absolutely ridiculous. there's gotta be something pretty strong about him. be something pretty strong about him he's — be something pretty strong about him. he's already done something ridiculous, — him. he's already done something ridiculous, seven in seven days. he runs— ridiculous, seven in seven days. he runs a _ ridiculous, seven in seven days. he runs a marathon for fun now. it is so far— runs a marathon for fun now. it is so far out— runs a marathon for fun now. it is so far out of— runs a marathon for fun now. it is so far out of my realm of understanding, that i have absolutely no idea. i'm so proud of him _ absolutely no idea. i'm so proud of him. firstly, — absolutely no idea. i'm so proud of him. firstly, to be able to do what he does _ him. firstly, to be able to do what he does in — him. firstly, to be able to do what he does in terms of the errors and the diligence that goes into coaching a premiership team, and then to _ coaching a premiership team, and then to be — coaching a premiership team, and then to be able to prepare for something like this with your mate, i've something like this with your mate, i've only— something like this with your mate, i've only got aberration. he will have _ i've only got aberration. he will have massive, massive support here. probably— have massive, massive support here. probably a _ have massive, massive support here. probably a bit apprehensive. i was like this last time. i think you want to get started, you want to get going. as i said on the show, and marathon for it but probably not 100 mile fit. —— i am marathon fit. as the great sally nugent told me, you don't run with your legs, you're wrong with this. in many ways i wanted to be horrible, i wanted to be uncomfortable, i wanted to be raining and sleeping in windy. i want everything to get thrown at us that can be because people out there are having a off with mnd. they are fighting every top flight at the minute. we are just showing then we care. that's a proper hug. i have said it before. i love _ that's a proper hug. i have said it before. i love kevin _ that's a proper hug. i have said it before. i love kevin sinfield. i- that's a proper hug. i have said it before. i love kevin sinfield. i do| before. i love kevin sinfield. i do too. before. i love kevin sinfield. i do too- there _ before. i love kevin sinfield. i do too. there are _ before. i love kevin sinfield. i do too. there are some _ before. i love kevin sinfield. i do too. there are some people i before. i love kevin sinfield. i do too. there are some people are l before. i love kevin sinfield. i do i too. there are some people are good too. there are some people are good to treat too. there are some people are good to great lengths _ too. there are some people are good to great lengths to _ too. there are some people are good to great lengths to help _ too. there are some people are good to great lengths to help their - to great lengths to help their friends out. i know he has got lots of support and people are along the way. but he doesn't need to do that. he just wants to do it because he loves rob and his family so much that he wants to make a difference. what kevin would say easy actually does need to do it. he needs to be a part of it. he wants to be a team—mate. he was his captain since they were 12. he is still his captain now and they are not playing together any more. he is a leader, a leader at home, a leader on the pitch, a leader in hisjob and he just setting an example in helping other follow him by doing just setting an example in helping otherfollow him by doing his best. you watch that and you think, kev, whatever we can do to help, we will do it. he is a natural leader. he is a natural captain, a natural cheerleader. when you see somebody like that who digs really deep and find something in themselves, you just want to follow them, whatever he is doing. we will support you, we will give you the money you need to try to raise as much as possible to try to raise as much as possible to try to raise as much as possible to try to make a difference. when we saw how do the last marathon, seven and seven, so many people watch this programme and got involved and support of that. i'm sure the same will happen again. did support of that. i'm sure the same will happen again.— support of that. i'm sure the same will happen again. did you notice he finally admitted _ will happen again. did you notice he finally admitted i _ will happen again. did you notice he finally admitted i taught _ will happen again. did you notice he finally admitted i taught him - finally admitted i taught him everything about running. the great sally nugent! i gave him the best running advice ever. he is teasing me because he knows he is being slightly mean. me because he knows he is being slightly mean-— me because he knows he is being sliahtl mean. ~ ., ,, , ., slightly mean. well done, superman -like. we slightly mean. well done, superman -like- we will _ slightly mean. well done, superman -like. we will support _ slightly mean. well done, superman -like. we will support you _ slightly mean. well done, superman -like. we will support you every i —like. we will support you every step of the way. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. time now to get the news where you are. good morning. i'm asad ahmad. ambulances at a hospital in hertfordshire are having to sometimes wait up to five hours to hand over patients to an a&e department. and while they're at the lister hospital in stevenage, they could be in a queue of almost a dozen ambulances waiting to do the same. east and north hertfordshire nhs trust accepts the situation is "extremely seriously". is "extremely serious". but they say they believe they "do better than many other places". after the recent shortage of hgv drivers, there's a warning of a similar shortage of security and other staff working in london's night—time economy. as demand for security staff has increased at covid testing sites and shopping centres, there aren't the staff to fill all the vacancies left behind, which means some venues might have to reduce their hours or close altogether. over the last 19 months, you know, of closure, particularly for the businesses that predominantly use security, many of those people have had to find work elsewhere. on top of that you've got brexit and you've also got the requirement in the public realm for more security. a bus company has started offering free travel passes to the homeless. all those wanting to get to job interviews who are at risk of losing their homes. reading buses has teamed—up with the homeless prevention charity, launchpad, to help people make essentialjourneys. the company already offers discounted travel to people withjob centre plus cards, who actively looking for work. a look at the travel situation now. a good service on all lines. and if you want to know the situation arose in railways, tune into your local bbc radio station. now the weather with kate. good morning. it is a misty start but a very mild one. temperatures overnight and stayed in double figures. we do have a cold front bearing towards us. that will bring more cloud. ahead of it we are hanging onto this mild air. we got a few bright spells when the mist and fog lifts. we will still see some bright and sunny spells. cloud thickening towards the end of the afternoon as it heads south. maximum temperatures 16 celsius. very mild. overnight that cold front really takes its time. it is gradually going to increase the cloud. some spots of rain potentially as we head into wednesday. the minimum temperature between nine and 11 celsius. another mild night. that cold front stalls and stays with us through tomorrow. patchy rain. thursday remaining cloudy. you will notice that area of low pressure coming in from the west, heading towards us towards the end of the week. that turns the weather more unsettled on friday. the temperature stays mild but gradually getting a little bit chillier as we had through the weekend. i'm back in half an hour. bye for now. good morning, welcome to breakfast with dan walker and sally nugent. our headlines today. get vaccinated or risk losing yourjob — front line nhs workers in england will today be told they will have to get double jabbed by the spring. rescued after two days trapped underground — an injured caver is brought to safety. he's said to be in good spirits. just amazing. it is the biggest rescue any of us have done. i hope we will ever do. a ten—year—old boy dies after he was attacked by a dog in south wales. yorkshire are investigating a racism allegation this time from a former academy cricketer. it comes after their new chairman said azeem rafiq should be praised for being a whistleblower on discrimination. rain crossing england and wales. showers across england and northern ireland. in between sunshine but light winds. all the details later. it's tuesday, 9th of november. some breaking news this morning. front—line nhs staff in england will be required to be fully vaccinated with the government is expected to make the announcement later today. a deadline will be set for next spring to give time for workers to have both doses. our health editor hugh pym reports. compulsory vaccination against covid for staff in adult social care is already being implemented in england. there's a deadline later this week for care workers to comply, apart from those deemed to be exempt. it's understood that, later today, the government will announce that the policy will be extended to staff in patient—facing roles in the nhs in england. they'll be required as a condition of deployment in those posts to be double—jabbed by next spring, unless there are medical reasons for exemption. the deadline has been set to allow for the gap between first and second doses. around 90% of nhs staff in england have already been vaccinated against covid. the health secretary, sajid javid, said last month that he was leaning towards compulsoryjabs for nhs staff and the main issue was patient safety. health leaders say they see the benefits of the policy, though some have expressed reservations, arguing that there is a risk some staff might quit at a time of concerns about staffing gaps. the health union unison has argued that the key to convincing hesitant staff should be persuasion, not force. decisions on the issue are devolved and it's possible that the other uk nations will take a different route to england. a man who was injured caving in the brecon beacons has been rescued after being trapped underground for two days. he is said to be in good spirits after 250 people worked in shifts to bring him to safety. our correspondent sent this report. mission accomplished. after more than two days of painstaking, exhausting work, relief all round. together, these volunteers carried the casualty through an underground assault course of boulders, streams and ledges, the longest stretcher carry ever by a british cave rescue team. it is absolutely amazing. the cooperation, the professionalism. everybody dealt with it. the controllers, down to the grunts on the sharp end, it was just amazing. it's the biggest rescue any of us have done, i hope will ever do. the casualty is an experienced caver in his 405. on saturday, he fell and suffered multiple injuries, but could talk to his rescuers throughout. when you consider how long he has been in the cave, how long he has been in the stretcher, he is doing very well indeed. so he's been talking to the medics along the way and they have been having a conversation, but we are waiting for them to come out, now. this is what draws enthusiasts here. a sculpted subterranean world, in places almost 300 metres deep. it attracts cavers from across the uk. after 50 hours underground and the efforts of 250 volunteers, the casualty is now safe and on their way to hospital. bringing this rescue operation to a successful conclusion. for the volunteers, days of endeavour and years of training have tonight brought their reward. a 10—year—old boy has died after being attacked by a dog in south wales. the incident occurred at a house in caerphilly at around four o'clock yesterday afternoon. our reporter tomos morgan is there for us this morning. what more can you tell us? there has been a police — what more can you tell us? there has been a police presence _ what more can you tell us? there has been a police presence this _ what more can you tell us? there has been a police presence this morning. | been a police presence this morning. you might be able to see in the distance police officers outside the house where the boy lived. they have been coming in and out as the investigation continues trying to establish what happened yesterday afternoon. let me tell you what happened in terms of the timeline. the emergency services were called around 3:55pm but the welsh ambulance service pronounced the ten—year—old dead at the scene, when they arrived. the dog was also then destroyed and an investigation was carried out by forensic teams. many units from gwent police trying to work out how this took place. a neighbour told the bbc they believe the incident took place inside the house, but that is not confirmed. we expect an update from gwent police at some stage this morning so hopefully we will get that before the end of the programme today. the prime minister has refused to apologise over the government's attempt to change the rules governing how mps standards of conduct should be enforced. mrjohnson wasn't at an emergency debate about the subject yesterday — with labour accusing him of �*running scared'. no 10 said it was due to a "long—standing commitment" to visit a hospital. we can speak to adam fleming. it got fruity in the house on this issue. there were divisions all over the place with the opposition accusing the government of corruption and a conservative former chief whip saying the prime minister should be there and apologising. you had conservative mps elected in 2019 accusing longer serving colleagues of being too sympathetic towards owen paterson and also of being a bit patronising to the younger generation. even on the standards committee of mps who decide on these cases, you had disagreements among conservative members of the committee about what should happen to that committee. there were cracks appearing in the conservative party as a result of this. in terms of what happens next, i think it will die down, not least because parliament is going on a breakfor half term. i think what will happen next is the standards committee is working on a new code of conduct across a range of areas, which they were doing in advance of this. they hope that will be published before the end of the year and i think that will spark a debate about this, the process, do you have an appeals process, do you have an appeals process for mps found to have broken the rules? new guidelines about mps doing otherjobs while sitting in parliament? and as we saw yesterday, when parliament debates those topics, it gets quite heated. brute topics, it gets quite heated. we have dominic raab coming up at 7:30am. drake has spoken for the first time since eight people died at a festival in texas. he said... drake was a surprise performer at the event and is being sued along with tavish scott over the deadly crash. water companies have been warned they will face "consequences" if they don't reduce the flow of raw sewage being released into england's rivers. it comes after mps voted to accept a government amendment imposing tougher restrictions on the practice. ministers hope it will end a row between the commons and the lords over the issue. but some campaigners say the new rules don't go far enough diamonds that belong to marie antoinette are up for auction in geneva and estimated to sell for around £1.5 million. they are among rare and historically significant stones on offer. they look pretty snazzy. that is one way to describe them. pretty gorgeous. you said you would wear them if you got hold of them. you would need to be careful. i cannot have precious things like that. if you have nice things, why lock them away? you would wear them. because they are worth far too much money. it is theoretical. i do not think we will have the diamonds. we were talking about working hours. there is new research suggesting if you go to bed at 11pm and have seven hours of sleep, it is good for heart health. how do you think we are doing? the fact i fell asleep standing up yesterday... it is a good indication i am not getting enough. and while carroll is talking you can have a snooze. during the weather, never. good morning. forsome during the weather, never. good morning. for some a beautiful start. looking at lovely sunrises as we have just seen in looking at lovely sunrises as we havejust seen in north looking at lovely sunrises as we have just seen in north tyneside. others have a lot of cloud and rain stop the common denominator is a mild start. we have fog in the southeast and hill fog around the rain and showers moving across scotland and northern ireland. between, cloud and sunshine. and light wind with the exception of gusty wind up to 50 mph in the far north of scotland and northern and western isles. temperatures 10—15. as we head over night, the weather front continues to push across england and wales. taking rain with it, hill fog. behind it, clear skies. particularly in the north—east of scotland. in sheltered glens here, temperatures will be low enough for frost. further south, glens here, temperatures will be low enough forfrost. further south, a mild night in england and wales. northern ireland not doing too badly. tomorrow, the same weather front across england and wales producing cloud and rain fragmenting. behind it, showers in northern england and showers getting in across northern and western scotland. some on the coastline of northern ireland. some sunshine and these are the temperatures, 10—15. a light breeze except in the far north. there will be gusts up to 50 mph is there. are you ready? i have been paying close attention. there will be weather today. it took 53 hours and more than 250 volunteers — and last night a complicated rescue mission ended in relief when a man was pulled to safety from a cave in the brecon beacons. the caver is said to be in good spirits, despite his multiple injuries. we can speak now to two people involved in the rescue mission — paul taylor and steve thomas are from the south and mid wales cave rescue team. thank you for being with us. give us an idea of the scale of the operation. talk us through what happened. the operation. talk us through what ha ened. , . operation. talk us through what happened-— operation. talk us through what hauened. ,. , . ., happened. the rescue started on saturday at _ happened. the rescue started on saturday at about _ happened. the rescue started on saturday at about 1pm. - happened. the rescue started on saturday at about 1pm. when i happened. the rescue started on| saturday at about 1pm. when the alarm _ saturday at about 1pm. when the alarm was — saturday at about 1pm. when the alarm was raised. to inform us that there _ alarm was raised. to inform us that there had _ alarm was raised. to inform us that there had been an accident underground. that resulted in the initial— underground. that resulted in the initial response from the south and mid wales— initial response from the south and mid wales cave rescue team. it very quickly— mid wales cave rescue team. it very quickly began to realise this would be a serious rescue. that put in place _ be a serious rescue. that put in place the — be a serious rescue. that put in place the plans to contact other teams — place the plans to contact other teams and that is howl place the plans to contact other teams and that is how i got involved from my— teams and that is how i got involved from my team in the gloucestershire cave rescue — from my team in the gloucestershire cave rescue group and then it snowballed to teams across the uk. how is _ snowballed to teams across the uk. how is the _ snowballed to teams across the uk. how is the rescued man doing at the moment and how was he when you've got to see him? that moment and how was he when you've got to see him?— got to see him? at the moment, all! know is he is— got to see him? at the moment, all! know is he is doing _ got to see him? at the moment, all! know is he is doing well. _ got to see him? at the moment, all! know is he is doing well. he - got to see him? at the moment, all! know is he is doing well. he is - got to see him? at the moment, all! know is he is doing well. he is a i know is he is doing well. he is a strong guy. when we first encountered him he had just had the accident. but he is a good guy, strong spirit. he accident. but he is a good guy, strong spirit-— accident. but he is a good guy, stron: sirit. , �* strong spirit. he will be good. am i riaht in strong spirit. he will be good. am i right in thinking _ strong spirit. he will be good. am i right in thinking that _ strong spirit. he will be good. am i right in thinking that it _ strong spirit. he will be good. am i right in thinking that it is _ strong spirit. he will be good. am i right in thinking that it is a - right in thinking that it is a serious business, you need a permit to be in those caves. how complicated was the rescue? how did you get to him? the complicated was the rescue? how did you get to him?— you get to him? the cave is complicated _ you get to him? the cave is complicated and _ you get to him? the cave is complicated and very i you get to him? the cave is complicated and very long, | you get to him? the cave is i complicated and very long, 38 you get to him? the cave is - complicated and very long, 38 miles of known survey and passages with a vertical range ofjust under one kilometre. it is an extensive cave. you have to be confident to be in there, which everybody was. but accidents happen. a boulder can stay in place 10,000 years and one day will move. that is the way it goes. when we got to him, it was a case of assessing how he was, working out what we would need, logistics of equipment, what has got to come in and where from. what we need with medical supplies. we had team doctors. everyone was allocated jobs and the operation to move him took place, which initially was slow. after 15 hours, he was into a bigger passage and so it became easier. then it was a case of moving him. then it was a case of moving him. the caves are natural things, they have no foot paths. it is in its natural state. have no foot paths. it is in its naturalstate. it have no foot paths. it is in its natural state. it is a geological wonder book full of boulders, potholes, climbs, waterfalls, it is all in there. each has to be negotiated in its own way. it is a slow process but we have done it many times and we have rehearsed this. we have had call—outs of a similar nature not this long. there was nothing that surprised us. we knew how to deal with every problem, it was just the time taken to deal with it. we had a fantastic team with it. we had a fantastic team with cave rescue teams from around the country and everybody responded. it is a voluntary operation, no one is paid. everybody is here because they want to do their best and they did their best. the cooperation and standard to which everybody worked was 100%. we standard to which everybody worked was 100%. ~ . ., ., ,, was 100%. we are hearing from steve how complex — was 100%. we are hearing from steve how complex the _ was 100%. we are hearing from steve how complex the situation _ was 100%. we are hearing from steve how complex the situation was. - was 100%. we are hearing from steve how complex the situation was. when j how complex the situation was. when you went into this did you realise how long it would take you to perform the rescue? it was a long time. it perform the rescue? it was a long time. ., , ., perform the rescue? it was a long time. . ., perform the rescue? it was a long time. ., ., ., ,. perform the rescue? it was a long time. . , ., ., ,. ., time. it was a long rescue, i have to say that _ time. it was a long rescue, i have to say that i _ time. it was a long rescue, i have to say that i personally _ time. it was a long rescue, i have to say that i personally did - time. it was a long rescue, i have to say that i personally did not. time. it was a long rescue, i have to say that i personally did not go underground. i was part of the surface — underground. i was part of the surface support, which is an important _ surface support, which is an important part, supporting the guys and girls— important part, supporting the guys and girls underground. the surface side is _ and girls underground. the surface side is most important. i cannot say anything _ side is most important. i cannot say anything about howl side is most important. i cannot say anything about how i felt as far as the underground was concerned. what strikes me is — the underground was concerned. what strikes me is that _ the underground was concerned. thrust strikes me is that you guys the underground was concerned. hissrusgt strikes me is that you guys are incredibly well prepared for situations like this and i imagine the man himself but his family and friends also thankful. it was a long operation but ultimately, we hope, successful. , ., , ,., , operation but ultimately, we hope, successful. , ., , , . ., successful. yes, absolutely. we are aware of our — successful. yes, absolutely. we are aware of our environment _ successful. yes, absolutely. we are aware of our environment that - successful. yes, absolutely. we are aware of our environment that we i aware of our environment that we enjoy. it is not a reckless thing we do and no more dangerous than anybody else. it is more dangerous sitting on the sofa watching tv. we are prepared. we will not encounter things we have not prepared for and practice many times. in that regard, i would not say it is routine but it is something we know we can do and the volunteers are 100% keen and dedicated. nobody complained about anything they had to do and a lot of it involved lying in water having a stretcher pulled over you and nobody said no, they did what they had to do. we are all part of the same team. it do. we are all part of the same team. ,., , ~' do. we are all part of the same team. ,., , ,, ., do. we are all part of the same team. , ,, ., ., ., team. it sounds like a great team effort. team. it sounds like a great team effort- steve. _ team. it sounds like a great team effort. steve, do _ team. it sounds like a great team effort. steve, do you _ team. it sounds like a great team effort. steve, do you need - team. it sounds like a great team effort. steve, do you need to - team. it sounds like a great teaml effort. steve, do you need to keep spirits up at times like that? do you sing, talk, focus on thejob? 0h, you sing, talk, focus on thejob? oh, the banter! it can be a tough thing, especially when there is a delay and you have to wait. and we are soaked through to the skin and there is always a draft in a cave so there is always a draft in a cave so there is a chill factor and it does not take long to sap you. keeping spirits up, we have treats, we carry them in our helmet, and supporting each other. it is a friendly environment we create. we do not try to create it, it creates itself and thatis to create it, it creates itself and that is the nature of the people who get involved doing this. i was lying in the passage at one point and to the right there was a yorkshire accent, to the left was a somerset and opposite me an irish accent. we represented the uk completely and it was fabulous. it was like we had known each other all our lives and that tends to happen with these kinds of events. it is that tends to happen with these kinds of events.— that tends to happen with these kinds of events. it is fantastic to hear ou kinds of events. it is fantastic to hear you describe _ kinds of events. it is fantastic to hear you describe what - kinds of events. it is fantastic to hear you describe what you - kinds of events. it is fantastic to | hear you describe what you went through over that long rescue. well done. i'm sure people would like to pass on their best wishes and gratitude to the team so thank you. it is amazing to see a team come together like that. do not know each other. working carefully on trying to save someone's life and you pull together and it works. i did not realise people would be lying on the ground having the stretcher passed over them. and the latest is that the gentleman, no information about who he is, but i understand he is in good spirits. more now on the breaking news. the government is set to require all front line nhs staff in england to be fully vaccinated by spring next year. sarah jarvis and sarahjarvis and chris hopson are with us. chris, we have spoken to you on this issue and many others. do you welcome this mandatory vaccinations for nhs staff? how do you feel about it?— you feel about it? obviously, it is sood you feel about it? obviously, it is good news _ you feel about it? obviously, it is good news in _ you feel about it? obviously, it is good news in terms _ you feel about it? obviously, it is good news in terms of _ you feel about it? obviously, it is good news in terms of being - you feel about it? obviously, it is good news in terms of being ablej you feel about it? obviously, it is i good news in terms of being able to ensure _ good news in terms of being able to ensure that — good news in terms of being able to ensure that we protect staff, patients _ ensure that we protect staff, patients and visitors from nhs members of staff having infections. let's not _ members of staff having infections. let's not forget an issue about covid-19 — let's not forget an issue about covid-19 is _ let's not forget an issue about covid—i9 is it can be asymptomatic so you _ covid—i9 is it can be asymptomatic so you might not know you have it. there _ so you might not know you have it. there is _ so you might not know you have it. there is also — so you might not know you have it. there is also another risk to patient _ there is also another risk to patient safety and quality of care and witches if we lose significant numbers — and witches if we lose significant numbers of staff as a result of mandatory vaccination, that will put very significant pressure on the nhs _ very significant pressure on the nhs we — very significant pressure on the nhs. we say to the government is yes, we _ nhs. we say to the government is yes, we see the logic of why you would _ yes, we see the logic of why you would want to do this, but please help us— would want to do this, but please help us manage the risk of losing staff, _ help us manage the risk of losing staff, because that also has a big risk in _ staff, because that also has a big risk in terms of patient safety and quality— risk in terms of patient safety and quality of— risk in terms of patient safety and quality of care. there are two things— quality of care. there are two things to _ quality of care. there are two things to manage here. this applies to front-line — things to manage here. this applies to front-line staff _ things to manage here. this applies to front-line staff only. _ things to manage here. this applies to front-line staff only. what - to front—line staff only. what percentage of front—line staff are already double vaccinated? percentage of front-line staff are already double vaccinated? across the nhs, already double vaccinated? across the nhs, we _ already double vaccinated? across the nhs, we do — already double vaccinated? across the nhs, we do not _ already double vaccinated? across the nhs, we do not have - already double vaccinated? across the nhs, we do not have the - the nhs, we do not have the breakdown between front line and non—frontline, and that is a fairly wavy— non—frontline, and that is a fairly wavy line — non—frontline, and that is a fairly wavy line it— non—frontline, and that is a fairly wavy line. it is not immediately clear— wavy line. it is not immediately clear necessarily who is or is not front— clear necessarily who is or is not front line — clear necessarily who is or is not front line. we know in total around 90%. _ front line. we know in total around 90%, may — front line. we know in total around 90%, may be up to 92% of nhs staff are vaccinated. the reason why that is so _ are vaccinated. the reason why that is so high, — are vaccinated. the reason why that is so high, above the population as a whole. _ is so high, above the population as a whole. is — is so high, above the population as a whole, is because trust leaders and gp_ a whole, is because trust leaders and gp colleagues have worked really hard to _ and gp colleagues have worked really hard to ensure people who were vaccine — hard to ensure people who were vaccine hesitant, and there are people — vaccine hesitant, and there are people who have reasons as to why they feel _ people who have reasons as to why they feel vaccine hesitant, have worked — they feel vaccine hesitant, have worked hard to drive up take up. what's _ worked hard to drive up take up. what's the — worked hard to drive up take up. what's the nhs has done well is to reduce _ what's the nhs has done well is to reduce the — what's the nhs has done well is to reduce the number of people who are not vaccinated, but there are somewhere between 80,000, 90,000 nhs staff not— somewhere between 80,000, 90,000 nhs staff not vaccinated. and it is important we work hard with them before _ important we work hard with them before the — important we work hard with them before the deadline to try to get as many— before the deadline to try to get as many of— before the deadline to try to get as many of them vaccinated, so we do not face _ many of them vaccinated, so we do not face this — many of them vaccinated, so we do not face this problem, a cliff edge effectively of numbers of staff leaving~ — effectively of numbers of staff leaving. that is the problem the social— leaving. that is the problem the social care — leaving. that is the problem the social care sector, his deadline for mandatory— social care sector, his deadline for mandatory vaccination occurs later this week, — mandatory vaccination occurs later this week, that is the problem they face and _ this week, that is the problem they face and it— this week, that is the problem they face and it is giving them significant issues. we want to avoid that in— significant issues. we want to avoid that in the — significant issues. we want to avoid that in the nhs.— that in the nhs. sarah, chris talked about the lack— that in the nhs. sarah, chris talked about the lack of _ that in the nhs. sarah, chris talked about the lack of clarity _ that in the nhs. sarah, chris talked about the lack of clarity about - about the lack of clarity about whether you are front line or not front—line staff. that is a huge problem because if this is mandatory, and you are not aware of whether they are front line, who draws a line?— whether they are front line, who draws a line? . , ,., draws a line? that is something we are waiting — draws a line? that is something we are waiting for _ draws a line? that is something we are waiting for the _ draws a line? that is something we are waiting for the detail— draws a line? that is something we are waiting for the detail of- draws a line? that is something we are waiting for the detail of the - are waiting for the detail of the announcement today. if you are a front _ announcement today. if you are a front facing — announcement today. if you are a front facing doctor, nurse, porter, you know — front facing doctor, nurse, porter, you know whether you are front line or not _ you know whether you are front line or not but _ you know whether you are front line or not but there are plenty of staff with a _ or not but there are plenty of staff with a degree of contact with patients, where they get drafted in if we are _ patients, where they get drafted in if we are short of staff, where it is not _ if we are short of staff, where it is not always completely clear and you might — is not always completely clear and you might not know that in advance. that is— you might not know that in advance. that is something trust leaders need to work— that is something trust leaders need to work through but what we are good at, to work through but what we are good at. where _ to work through but what we are good at, where we get a request, a requirement to do something like that, _ requirement to do something like that, we — requirement to do something like that, we have a good management structure _ that, we have a good management structure able to work through complexities like that but that is a complexity we will need to work three _ complexity we will need to work three. .. . complexity we will need to work three, ., g ., , complexity we will need to work three. ., , ., three. sarah jarvis, your reaction to this news- _ three. sarah jarvis, your reaction to this news. what _ three. sarah jarvis, your reaction to this news. what you _ three. sarah jarvis, your reaction to this news. what you make - three. sarah jarvis, your reaction to this news. what you make of. three. sarah jarvis, your reaction i to this news. what you make of the decision? i— to this news. what you make of the decision? i agree _ to this news. what you make of the decision? i agree with _ to this news. what you make of the decision? i agree with everything i decision? i agree with everything chris has said and the only aspect he has not pulled out is the regional variation. this is england, scotland, wales —— it is only england, scotland, wales and northern ireland have not made an announcement. dorset, you have 95% staff vaccinated. in bedford and luton and dunstable, only 80% of staff vaccinated. over the winter that means more risk to patients in deprived areas. we saw studies showing people of south asian origin have a gene that makes them more vulnerable to covid infection, but you also have greater risk of large numbers of staff in those areas go, so a difficult balancing act. ianthem so a difficult balancing act. when we talk about _ so a difficult balancing act. when we talk about nhs _ so a difficult balancing act. when we talk about nhs recruitment, l we talk about nhs recruitment, another issue, with currently 93,000 vacancies, are you worried, sarah, there will be an exodus of staff and that shortage will be assassinated by the situation? i that shortage will be assassinated by the situation?— that shortage will be assassinated by the situation? i am very worried about that- — by the situation? i am very worried about that. 93,000 _ by the situation? i am very worried about that. 93,000 staff _ by the situation? i am very worried about that. 93,000 staff is - by the situation? i am very worried about that. 93,000 staff is slightly under the number of people, 110,000 people, out of1.1i million, under the number of people, 110,000 people, out of 1.4 million, who have not been vaccinated. we could be doubling the number of vacancies. i doubling the number of vacancies. i do not think we have a breakdown of how many are front line but i think a lot of those people who are in vacancies and have not been vaccinated will be in front line jobs. but we also need to bear in mind that as a doctor, i take it for granted i have to be vaccinated against hepatitis b so i do not put patients at risk of an incurable illness that could cause liver cancer. i have been required to do that the entire 36 years i have been a doctor. it is not as if this is entirely new.— a doctor. it is not as if this is entirel new. , , ., ., , entirely new. chris, you said last week ou entirely new. chris, you said last week you would _ entirely new. chris, you said last week you would prefer _ entirely new. chris, you said last week you would prefer if - entirely new. chris, you said last week you would prefer if the - week you would prefer if the messaging on this had been entirely successful and therefore people had been able to make their own choice about being vaccinated. i do not know how you feel about this decision now. we hear staff will have to be double vaccinated by next spring. do you feel the messaging has not worked as well as you might have hoped?— has not worked as well as you might have hoed? , , ., ., ~ ., have hoped? trusts have worked hard to ersuade have hoped? trusts have worked hard to persuade people — have hoped? trusts have worked hard to persuade people to _ have hoped? trusts have worked hard to persuade people to take _ have hoped? trusts have worked hard to persuade people to take up - have hoped? trusts have worked hard to persuade people to take up the - to persuade people to take up the vaccine _ to persuade people to take up the vaccine but we know there are some people _ vaccine but we know there are some people who — vaccine but we know there are some people who feel strongly about this. it is people who feel strongly about this. it is not _ people who feel strongly about this. it is not easy to understand. i am somebody— it is not easy to understand. i am somebody who has been gratefully double _ somebody who has been gratefully double vaccinated as quickly as i could, _ double vaccinated as quickly as i could, just — double vaccinated as quickly as i could, just about to go for my booster~ _ could, just about to go for my booster. we do need to understand why some _ booster. we do need to understand why some people are vaccine hesitant _ why some people are vaccine hesitant. what the trust leaders say to us— hesitant. what the trust leaders say to us is— hesitant. what the trust leaders say to us is the — hesitant. what the trust leaders say to us is the way they have managed to us is the way they have managed to drive _ to us is the way they have managed to drive up— to us is the way they have managed to drive up voluntary take—up is by having _ to drive up voluntary take—up is by having patients careful, encouraging and supportive conversations that really _ and supportive conversations that really understand why the individual does not _ really understand why the individual does not want to get vaccinated, and then directly meet those concerns in a supportive and helpful way. and often _ a supportive and helpful way. and often peer—to—peer conversations help _ often peer—to—peer conversations help we — often peer—to—peer conversations help. we know that colleagues from black communities at the moment tend to have _ black communities at the moment tend to have a _ black communities at the moment tend to have a lower rate of take—up. a lot of— to have a lower rate of take—up. a lot of trust— to have a lower rate of take—up. a lot of trust say having a black doctor— lot of trust say having a black doctor talking to a black doctor, that has— doctor talking to a black doctor, that has made a difference. it is important — that has made a difference. it is important that government does not skate _ important that government does not skate great people when it makes the announcement today, who are currently — announcement today, who are currently hesitant. and one piece of optimism _ currently hesitant. and one piece of optimism. what is interesting in other— optimism. what is interesting in other nations, at the point when the announcement about mandatory vaccination is made, it has provided a useful— vaccination is made, it has provided a useful spur— vaccination is made, it has provided a useful spur in places if the language and tone is right to go back— language and tone is right to go back round and have conversations again~ _ back round and have conversations again we — back round and have conversations again. we have seen in other nations that there _ again. we have seen in other nations that there is — again. we have seen in other nations that there is quite a quick take—up of that— that there is quite a quick take—up of that last — that there is quite a quick take—up of that last tale of people who were hesitant _ of that last tale of people who were hesitant. if we get it right, there is an— hesitant. if we get it right, there is an opportunity to stimulate a conversation that has not succeeded so far. _ conversation that has not succeeded so far. and _ conversation that has not succeeded so far, and ensure we have people who are _ so far, and ensure we have people who are vaccinated before we hit the deadline _ who are vaccinated before we hit the deadline and avoid the cliff edge of people _ deadline and avoid the cliff edge of people leaving the service. it is interesting _ people leaving the service. it is interesting to _ people leaving the service. it is interesting to talk _ people leaving the service. it 3 interesting to talk to both of you. let us know what you think. you can get in touch on the website. the other issue is care homes, and being extended beyond the front line. that is an issue that might come up. something we might put to dominic raab in the next minutes. now the news where you are. good morning. i'm asad ahmad. ambulances at a hospital in hertfordshire are having to sometimes wait up to five hours to hand over patients to an a&e department. and while they're at the lister hospital in stevenage, they could be in a queue of almost a dozen ambulances waiting to do the same. east and north hertfordshire nhs trust accepts the situation is "extremely seriously". but they say they believe they "do better than many other places". after the recent shortage of hgv drivers, there's a warning of a shortage of security and other staff working in london's night—time economy. as demand for security staff has increased at covid testing sites and shopping centres, there aren't the staff to fill all the vacancies left behind, which means some venues might have to reduce their hours or close altogether. over the last 19 months, you know, of closure, particularly for the businesses that predominantly use security, many of those people have had to find work elsewhere. on top of that you've got brexit and you've also got the requirement in the public realm for more security. a bus company has started offering free travel passes to the homeless, or those wanting to get to job interviews who are at risk of losing their homes. reading buses has teamed—up with the homeless prevention charity, launchpad, to help people make essentialjourneys. the company already offers discounted travel to people withjob centre plus cards, who actively looking for work. a look at the travel situation now. now the weather with kate. good morning. it is a misty start but a very mild one. temperatures overnight and stayed in double figures. we do have a cold front bearing towards us. that will bring more cloud. ahead of it we are hanging onto this mild air. we got a few bright spells when the mist and fog lifts. we will still see some bright and sunny spells. clouds thickening towards the end of the afternoon as heads south. maximum temperatures 16 celsius. very mild. overnight that cold front really takes its time. it is gradually going to increase the cloud. some spots of rain potentially as we head into wednesday. the minimum temperature between nine and 11 celsius. another mild night. that cold front stalls and stays with us through tomorrow. patchy rain. thursday remaining cloudy. you will notice that area of low pressure coming in from the west, heading towards us towards the end of the week. that turns the weather more unsettled on friday. the temperatures stay mild but gradually getting a little bit chillier as we had through the weekend. i'm back in an hour. bye for now. good morning, welcome to breakfast with dan walker and sally nugent. frontline nhs staff could be required to be fully vaccinated by next spring, under plans expected to be announced by the government later. it comes as the deadline for all care home staff to be double jabbed comes into place on thursday. we can get some more detail on this from the deputy prime minister, dominic raab, whojoins us now. good morning. what can you tell us about this? — good morning. what can you tell us about this? i— good morning. what can you tell us about this? i think _ good morning. what can you tell us about this? i think you _ good morning. what can you tell us about this? i think you are - about this? i think you are referring _ about this? i think you are referring to _ about this? i think you are referring to a _ about this? i think you are referring to a leaked - about this? i think you are | referring to a leaked report about this? i think you are - referring to a leaked report on twitter~ — referring to a leaked report on twitter. i'm afraid of the government won't comment on that. we will obviously — government won't comment on that. we will obviously set out any further announcements in the usual way. what i announcements in the usual way. what i would _ announcements in the usual way. what i would say _ announcements in the usual way. what i would say is _ announcements in the usual way. what i would say is the boosterjabs are past 10 _ i would say is the boosterjabs are past 10 million. it is absolutely past10 million. it is absolutely critically— past 10 million. it is absolutely critically important that we see through— critically important that we see through the colder winter months getting _ through the colder winter months getting the booster roll—out out there _ getting the booster roll—out out there i— getting the booster roll—out out there. i think we are in a much better— there. i think we are in a much better place than we were a year ago because _ better place than we were a year ago because of— better place than we were a year ago because of the rate of vaccination of the _ because of the rate of vaccination of the country. and of course there are still— of the country. and of course there are still concerns, we still have to be vigilant — are still concerns, we still have to be vigilant. at the rate of cases on the last— be vigilant. at the rate of cases on the last data was down. the r rate was down — the last data was down. the r rate was down in — the last data was down. the r rate was down in the week before. there is still— was down in the week before. there is still every — was down in the week before. there is still every reason to be vigilant _ is still every reason to be vigilant. but i think we are in a fundamentally different place in relation — fundamentally different place in relation to the pandemic because of the vaccination roll—out over the past _ the vaccination roll—out over the past months and year. you the vaccination roll-out over the past months and year.— the vaccination roll-out over the past months and year. you say it is from a leaked _ past months and year. you say it is from a leaked report _ past months and year. you say it is from a leaked report on _ past months and year. you say it is from a leaked report on twitter. i l from a leaked report on twitter. i would point out that the bbc understands this is to be the case. our health editor has reported this exclusively from seven o'clock this morning. 50 if we perhaps understand that this will be happening, are you saying then that if it is a leaked report on twitter this might not be the case? ., �* _ report on twitter this might not be the case? ., �* ., �* the case? no, i'm saying i don't comment— the case? no, i'm saying i don't comment on _ the case? no, i'm saying i don't comment on leaked _ the case? no, i'm saying i don't comment on leaked reports - the case? no, i'm saying i don't i comment on leaked reports about the case? no, i'm saying i don't - comment on leaked reports about what the golf— comment on leaked reports about what the golf may or may not do. —— the government — the golf may or may not do. —— the government. we set out are announcements on this and the usual way. announcements on this and the usual way we _ announcements on this and the usual way. we have been mindful of encouraging greater take—up, way. we have been mindful of encouraging greatertake—up, or maximum— encouraging greatertake—up, or maximum take up if you like, of the vaccination — maximum take up if you like, of the vaccination and the booster is to go with it _ vaccination and the booster is to go with it. particularly in vulnerable settings — with it. particularly in vulnerable settings like care homes and in the nhs _ settings like care homes and in the nhs but— settings like care homes and in the nhs. but those announcements are made _ nhs. but those announcements are made in — nhs. but those announcements are made in the right way, the correct way, _ made in the right way, the correct way, by— made in the right way, the correct way. by the — made in the right way, the correct way, by the health secretary. if way, by the health secretary. if this announcement does go ahead would it be a failure of the messaging? would you think that may by making this a requirement that the messaging the government has put out has not been successful?— out has not been successful? forgive me if i don't — out has not been successful? forgive me if i don't take _ out has not been successful? forgive me if i don't take the _ out has not been successful? forgive me if i don't take the tempting - me if i don't take the tempting offer— me if i don't take the tempting offer to— me if i don't take the tempting offer to comment on a leaked report. but what _ offer to comment on a leaked report. but what i _ offer to comment on a leaked report. but what i would say is, look, that there _ but what i would say is, look, that there has— but what i would say is, look, that there has been a significant increase _ there has been a significant increase in the take—up of boosters. we encourage everyone to do that. we are encouraging everyone else vulnerable settings, care homes and the nhs, _ vulnerable settings, care homes and the nhs, to take up the vaccine. we know— the nhs, to take up the vaccine. we know it _ the nhs, to take up the vaccine. we know it is _ the nhs, to take up the vaccine. we know it is the best resilience, the best line — know it is the best resilience, the best line of— know it is the best resilience, the best line of defence against the pandemic. by way of context, if you look at _ pandemic. by way of context, if you look at the — pandemic. by way of context, if you look at the situation now and all the data — look at the situation now and all the data compared to a year ago, we are in— the data compared to a year ago, we are in a _ the data compared to a year ago, we are in a fundamentally different place _ are in a fundamentally different place. we have got the resilience in place _ place. we have got the resilience in place yes. — place. we have got the resilience in place. yes, we need to be vigilant. yes, _ place. yes, we need to be vigilant. yes. we _ place. yes, we need to be vigilant. yes. we will— place. yes, we need to be vigilant. yes, we will constantly look at what more _ yes, we will constantly look at what more we _ yes, we will constantly look at what more we can do. what i think we are in a much _ more we can do. what i think we are in a much better place as we come through— in a much better place as we come through these colder winter months. i completely understand you don't want to comment on a leaked report. let's talk theoretically. do you see the situation at the moment in the care industry where care workers are losing theirjobs because they are refusing to be double jabbed, that the same may happen in the nhs? you are askin: the same may happen in the nhs? you are asking me the same question by a different— are asking me the same question by a different route with all of your journalistic cunning, and i pay great — journalistic cunning, and i pay great credit to you for that. what i would _ great credit to you for that. what i would just — great credit to you for that. what i would just say though is in relation to care _ would just say though is in relation to care homes you've got a very, very— to care homes you've got a very, very vulnerable residential group. and i_ very vulnerable residential group. and i think — very vulnerable residential group. and i think people would expect us to take, _ and i think people would expect us to take, to— and i think people would expect us to take, to learn the lessons throughout the pandemic, and take every— throughout the pandemic, and take every step— throughout the pandemic, and take every step that we can take to make sure that _ every step that we can take to make sure that they're safe and of course these _ sure that they're safe and of course these are _ sure that they're safe and of course these are difficult decisions. but that is— these are difficult decisions. but that is ultimately what government has to— that is ultimately what government has to stand up and do. i think the care home — has to stand up and do. i think the care home setting will be more resilient, — care home setting will be more resilient, more secure for its residents— resilient, more secure for its residents as a result of that. the difference _ residents as a result of that. the difference is _ residents as a result of that. the difference is that _ residents as a result of that. ire: difference is that for residents as a result of that. tue: difference is that for care home is the situation that every worker going into a care home needs to be double jabbed, whereas with the nhs it is front—line staff only. booths; double jabbed, whereas with the nhs it is front-line staff only.— it is front-line staff only. why is that? look, — it is front-line staff only. why is that? look, these _ it is front-line staff only. why is that? look, these are _ it is front-line staff only. why is that? look, these are difficult, l that? look, these are difficult, finely— that? look, these are difficult, finely balanced decisions. we want to encourage people voluntarily to take up _ to encourage people voluntarily to take up the vaccines and the boosters _ take up the vaccines and the boosters because it is the best line of defence — boosters because it is the best line of defence. the way we get to that, the different settings, we will look at different means to achieve that. fundamentally, the more people that have the _ fundamentally, the more people that have the vaccine, particularly in those _ have the vaccine, particularly in those vulnerable settings, the safer we will _ those vulnerable settings, the safer we will be — those vulnerable settings, the safer we will be. �* , those vulnerable settings, the safer we will be. h ., ., those vulnerable settings, the safer we will be. �*, ., ,, ., we will be. let's talk about something _ we will be. let's talk about something we _ we will be. let's talk about something we know - we will be. let's talk about something we know is - we will be. let's talk about - something we know is definitely happening, the debate in the house of commons yesterday. the prime minister did not attend. ijust want to read you this quote, which i know you will have heard, from a former conservative chief whip, mark harper. he said, if the team captain gets it wrong i think he should come and apologise to the public and this house. do you agree that boris johnson should have been in that debate yesterday afternoon? look. johnson should have been in that debate yesterday afternoon? look, we have 'ust debate yesterday afternoon? look, we have just been — debate yesterday afternoon? look, we have just been talking _ debate yesterday afternoon? look, we have just been talking about _ debate yesterday afternoon? look, we have just been talking about the - have just been talking about the vaccine — have just been talking about the vaccine roll—out. and the prime minister— vaccine roll—out. and the prime minister was vaccine roll—out. and the prime ministerwas in a vaccine roll—out. and the prime minister was in a hospital in the north-east _ minister was in a hospital in the north—east looking at the nhs, the resilience _ north—east looking at the nhs, the resilience and our ability to deal with the — resilience and our ability to deal with the backlogs we have seen inevitably because of the pandemic. and the _ inevitably because of the pandemic. and the senior minister responsible for this— and the senior minister responsible for this area, the cabinet office minister. — for this area, the cabinet office minister, stephen barclay, was in the house — minister, stephen barclay, was in the house of commons. he said, and i am happy— the house of commons. he said, and i am happy to— the house of commons. he said, and i am happy to repeated today, that it was a _ am happy to repeated today, that it was a mistake to conflate the individual case in relation to owen paterson, — individual case in relation to owen paterson, with the broader, wider question— paterson, with the broader, wider question of— paterson, with the broader, wider question of how we have due process, a right— question of how we have due process, a right of— question of how we have due process, a right of appeal and so forth. we regret— a right of appeal and so forth. we regret that. and we now proceed forward — regret that. and we now proceed forward i— regret that. and we now proceed forward. i think it is right to say we need — forward. i think it is right to say we need a — forward. i think it is right to say we need a system which is both robust — we need a system which is both robust and _ we need a system which is both robust and also sustainable. and i know— robust and also sustainable. and i know the — robust and also sustainable. and i know the committee on standards is looking _ know the committee on standards is looking at— know the committee on standards is looking at how they can strengthen the due _ looking at how they can strengthen the due process in relation to that. that will— the due process in relation to that. that will be — the due process in relation to that. that will be an important step forward — that will be an important step forward. as much of this they can be done _ forward. as much of this they can be done in _ forward. as much of this they can be done in a _ forward. as much of this they can be done in a cross—party basis, the better~ — done in a cross—party basis, the better. it— done in a cross-party basis, the better. ., ., , done in a cross-party basis, the better. . ~ , ., better. it makes it more sustainable. _ better. it makes it more sustainable. don't - better. it makes it more sustainable. don't you l better. it makes it more - sustainable. don't you think the words we heard from steve barclay yesterday would have meant a lot more coming from the prime minister himself as the team captain? weill. himself as the team captain? well, it's precisely _ himself as the team captain? well, it's precisely because _ himself as the team captain? well, it's precisely because we _ himself as the team captain? well, it's precisely because we are - himself as the team captain? well, it's precisely because we are a - himself as the team captain? well, it's precisely because we are a team that you _ it's precisely because we are a team that you have got to stephen barclay. _ that you have got to stephen barclay, in the area that he is responsible for, a senior member of the cabinet. — responsible for, a senior member of the cabinet, in the house of commons explaining _ the cabinet, in the house of commons explaining how we are going to proceed. — explaining how we are going to proceed, and the prime minister dealing — proceed, and the prime minister dealing with covid, which i suspect many— dealing with covid, which i suspect many of— dealing with covid, which i suspect many of your viewers, it is the thing — many of your viewers, it is the thing that— many of your viewers, it is the thing that has been preoccupying them _ thing that has been preoccupying them most of the past weeks and months — them most of the past weeks and months. he has been in the north—east looking at a hospital, looking _ north—east looking at a hospital, looking at— north—east looking at a hospital, looking at the challenges but also the investment being put in to make sure we _ the investment being put in to make sure we come through this pandemic and we _ sure we come through this pandemic and we learn the lessons and deal with not— and we learn the lessons and deal with notjust the health challenges, but the _ with notjust the health challenges, but the wider challenges that we have got— but the wider challenges that we have got as a country, economically and socially — have got as a country, economically and socially. it is a team effort. the government has been clear. the conflation _ the government has been clear. the conflation of — the government has been clear. the conflation of the two was a mistake, we regret— conflation of the two was a mistake, we regret it — conflation of the two was a mistake, we regret it. we need to try and get a process— we regret it. we need to try and get a process which is sustainable, commands public confidence, is robust _ commands public confidence, is robust but — commands public confidence, is robust but also has the right of appeal. — robust but also has the right of appeal, the due process. ithink robust but also has the right of appeal, the due process. i think in any walk— appeal, the due process. i think in any walk of— appeal, the due process. i think in any walk of life, you would expect that _ any walk of life, you would expect that l _ any walk of life, you would expect that. ., any walk of life, you would expect that. . . ., , ., ~ ., any walk of life, you would expect that. . . ., , .,~ ., ., that. i am curious to know how you feel this morning _ that. i am curious to know how you feel this morning about _ that. i am curious to know how you feel this morning about perhaps i feel this morning about perhaps other members of the conservative party, mps, the red wall mps, mps who were elected more recently maybe than yourself, who came in, if you like come on the back of boris johnson plus my popularity, who may be are not happy with what they were made to do last week. how aware are you of that unhappiness among fellow mps? ~ , , . ., ., mps? with respect, there are quite a few hypotheticals _ mps? with respect, there are quite a few hypotheticals there. _ mps? with respect, there are quite a few hypotheticals there. we - mps? with respect, there are quite a few hypotheticals there. we have - few hypotheticals there. we have courts _ few hypotheticals there. we have courts listen very carefully. i was in the _ courts listen very carefully. i was in the house of commons myself yesterday — in the house of commons myself yesterday. we listen to the views of all mps _ yesterday. we listen to the views of all mps lt _ yesterday. we listen to the views of all mps. it is a team effort. the right— all mps. it is a team effort. the right thing _ all mps. it is a team effort. the right thing to do is to listen but also _ right thing to do is to listen but also make _ right thing to do is to listen but also make decisions. that is what we have taken— also make decisions. that is what we have taken a — also make decisions. that is what we have taken a very swift decision, this was— have taken a very swift decision, this was a — have taken a very swift decision, this was a mistake, we regret it, we move _ this was a mistake, we regret it, we move on _ this was a mistake, we regret it, we move on at— this was a mistake, we regret it, we move on. at the issue i think that has been — move on. at the issue i think that has been raised and was raised on all sides— has been raised and was raised on all sides of— has been raised and was raised on all sides of the house of commons about— all sides of the house of commons about having a sustainable, robust system _ about having a sustainable, robust system but also one with due process, _ system but also one with due process, as in any walk of life, including — process, as in any walk of life, including the bbc, or if you are a doctor. _ including the bbc, or if you are a doctor. a — including the bbc, or if you are a doctor, a teacher, i think that is the right— doctor, a teacher, i think that is the right thing to be debating. hopefully we will work with a cross—party process to get the right result _ cross-party process to get the right result. ., ., �* ., , result. the labour leader said boris johnson was — result. the labour leader said boris johnson was running _ result. the labour leader said boris johnson was running scared. - result. the labour leader said boris johnson was running scared. do - result. the labour leader said borisj johnson was running scared. do you agree it was not a very good look? i agree it was not a very good look? i don't think the politicisation by the labour party, given how much money— the labour party, given how much money that— the labour party, given how much money that they take from the unions, — money that they take from the unions, is _ money that they take from the unions, is particularly an attractive look for keir starmer. we ought _ attractive look for keir starmer. we ought to— attractive look for keir starmer. we ought to be — attractive look for keir starmer. we ought to be coming together to make sure there _ ought to be coming together to make sure there is public confidence in our institutions, including how we do our— our institutions, including how we do ouriob— our institutions, including how we do ourjob as mps, and that we've aot do ourjob as mps, and that we've got a _ do ourjob as mps, and that we've got a robust — do ourjob as mps, and that we've got a robust system for complaints and impropriety, but also a fair system~ — and impropriety, but also a fair system. that is what we should be working _ system. that is what we should be working towards.— system. that is what we should be working towards. what are your -- what is your _ working towards. what are your -- what is your view _ working towards. what are your -- what is your view of _ working towards. what are your -- what is your view of mps _ working towards. what are your -- what is your view of mps earning i what is your view of mps earning money from second jobs?- what is your view of mps earning money from second jobs? money from second 'obs? there are ve strict money from second 'obs? there are very strict rules. — money from second jobs? there are very strict rules. they _ money from second jobs? there are very strict rules. they need - money from second jobs? there are very strict rules. they need to - money from second jobs? there are very strict rules. they need to be i very strict rules. they need to be properly— very strict rules. they need to be properly declared. there is the register— properly declared. there is the register of financial interest in the house of commons. i think that people _ the house of commons. i think that people do— the house of commons. i think that people do want to see mps in politics— people do want to see mps in politics have exposure and experience that comes outside the political— experience that comes outside the political world, whether it's from the armed — political world, whether it's from the armed forces, the nhs, whether it is from _ the armed forces, the nhs, whether it is from the world of business, it needs— it is from the world of business, it needs to — it is from the world of business, it needs to be — it is from the world of business, it needs to be properly declared. and ultimately, voters will decide on their— ultimately, voters will decide on their mp. — ultimately, voters will decide on their mp, whether they are spending enough _ their mp, whether they are spending enough time doing the job for them as their— enough time doing the job for them as their constituents. as enough time doing the 'ob for them as their constituents._ as their constituents. as young as ou as their constituents. as young as you declare _ as their constituents. as young as you declare it _ as their constituents. as young as you declare it it _ as their constituents. as young as you declare it it doesn't _ as their constituents. as young as you declare it it doesn't matter. as their constituents. as young as i you declare it it doesn't matter how much you earn, is that what you are saying? dash—mac as long as you declare it. saying? dash-mac as long as you declare it. ., �* , saying? dash-mac as long as you declare it. . �* , ., saying? dash-mac as long as you declare it— declare it. that's not what i'm sa ins. declare it. that's not what i'm saying- it _ declare it. that's not what i'm saying- it is — declare it. that's not what i'm saying. it is ultimately - declare it. that's not what i'm saying. it is ultimately a i declare it. that's not what i'm i saying. it is ultimately a judgment for the _ saying. it is ultimately a judgment for the electors. i do think it is important _ for the electors. i do think it is important and it is respect of —— respectable and legitimate for parliament to be exposed to the worlds _ parliament to be exposed to the worlds of — parliament to be exposed to the worlds of business and the armed forces _ worlds of business and the armed forces i_ worlds of business and the armed forces. i know there are members of the house _ forces. i know there are members of the house of— forces. i know there are members of the house of commons who still work in the _ the house of commons who still work in the nhs _ the house of commons who still work in the nhs. that exposure is important for the debates we have, and make _ important for the debates we have, and make sure we don't become ever more _ and make sure we don't become ever more secluded and out of touch with the priorities of what is going on in the _ the priorities of what is going on in the world outside the house of commons — in the world outside the house of commons-— commons. we've talked a fair bit about the prime _ commons. we've talked a fair bit about the prime minister- commons. we've talked a fair bit about the prime minister boris i about the prime minister boris johnson hospital visit i am going to share some pictures from the hospital visit yesterday, hexham general hospital, not wearing a mask. everybody else in the image is wearing a mask. what type of message do you think that sends out? i wearing a mask. what type of message do you think that sends out?— do you think that sends out? i know the prime minister _ do you think that sends out? i know the prime minister took _ do you think that sends out? i know the prime minister took the - do you think that sends out? i know the prime minister took the advice l the prime minister took the advice on the _ the prime minister took the advice on the clinical setting he was in and follow the protocols and procedures that were applied there. that is— procedures that were applied there. that is what everybody should do. do that is what everybody should do. dy: you that is what everybody should do. you think that is what everybody should do. idlt? you think though that maybe that is not the best look for a prime minister going into a hospital? i know you say in clinical settings he were a mask. i was working in a hospital setting last week and we put masks on from the moment we set footin put masks on from the moment we set foot in the door. the put masks on from the moment we set foot in the door.— foot in the door. the right thing to do is take the _ foot in the door. the right thing to do is take the advice _ foot in the door. the right thing to do is take the advice you've - foot in the door. the right thing to do is take the advice you've got i foot in the door. the right thing to l do is take the advice you've got and follow— do is take the advice you've got and follow the _ do is take the advice you've got and follow the guidance very carefully. i follow the guidance very carefully. i know _ follow the guidance very carefully. i know that is what the pm did. i am asoin to i know that is what the pm did. i am going to cord _ i know that is what the pm did. i am going to cord from _ i know that is what the pm did. tarn going to cord from the hospital. they say, anyone attending our hospitals or community settings must continue to wear a face covering at all times to protect patients, visitors and staff.— all times to protect patients, visitors and staff. your reaction to that? well, _ visitors and staff. your reaction to that? well, my — visitors and staff. your reaction to that? well, my understanding i visitors and staff. your reaction to that? well, my understanding is l visitors and staff. your reaction to i that? well, my understanding is that the prime _ that? well, my understanding is that the prime minister followed all the guidance _ the prime minister followed all the guidance that was given to him from the moment he was at the hospital and obviously in the different settings _ and obviously in the different settings he visited. and that is right — settings he visited. and that is right i— settings he visited. and that is risht. ~' ., settings he visited. and that is risht. ~ ., ,., settings he visited. and that is risht. ~ ., , right. i know there were some points in the hospital— right. i know there were some points in the hospital visit _ right. i know there were some points in the hospital visit yesterday - right. i know there were some points in the hospital visit yesterday he i in the hospital visit yesterday he was wearing a mask. we have a image of him herewatching vaccinations happening. a few moments before this happened he put it on because he was asking. it’s happened he put it on because he was askins. �* , ., happened he put it on because he was askins. v ., ., ., asking. it's quite right to follow the guidance. _ asking. it's quite right to follow the guidance. that _ asking. it's quite right to follow the guidance. that is _ asking. it's quite right to follow the guidance. that is what i asking. it's quite right to follow the guidance. that is what you | asking. it's quite right to follow- the guidance. that is what you have 'ust the guidance. that is what you have just described and i think it is quite — just described and i think it is quite right. and of course whenever mps and _ quite right. and of course whenever mps and ministers, and especially the prime — mps and ministers, and especially the prime minister, going to one of those _ the prime minister, going to one of those addicts, we wanted to follow the advice — those addicts, we wanted to follow the advice very closely. i am assured _ the advice very closely. i am assured that is exactly what happened. i assured that is exactly what happened-— assured that is exactly what has-ened. ., , . happened. i have 'ust read you the suote happened. i have 'ust read you the quote from _ happened. i have just read you the quote from northumbria _ happened. i have just read you the quote from northumbria nhs i happened. i have just read you the| quote from northumbria nhs trust. happened. i have just read you the i quote from northumbria nhs trust. do you not think you may be was not following the guidance? ho. you not think you may be was not following the guidance? no, because recisel as following the guidance? no, because precisely as you _ following the guidance? no, because precisely as you said, _ following the guidance? no, because precisely as you said, the _ following the guidance? no, because precisely as you said, the settings i precisely as you said, the settings where _ precisely as you said, the settings where it— precisely as you said, the settings where it was required he did wear a mask _ where it was required he did wear a mask. l�*rn _ where it was required he did wear a mask. �* , ., where it was required he did wear a mask. �* , ,, ., ,., where it was required he did wear a mask. �* , ,, ., , .,, mask. i'm 'ust thinking about people who are mask. i'm just thinking about people who are watching _ mask. i'm just thinking about people who are watching at _ mask. i'm just thinking about people who are watching at home _ mask. i'm just thinking about people who are watching at home who i mask. i'm just thinking about people who are watching at home who are i who are watching at home who are visiting relatives in hospital, nhs staff, who are working on of the most difficult circumstances, wearing ppe for hours on end, ijust wonder how i would feel if i was working ten hour shifts in a hospital and had to wear a mask all the time, or whatever type of safety agreement, the prime minister arrived and wasn't wearing one? i arrived and wasn't wearing one? i think the most important thing for all of— think the most important thing for all of the — think the most important thing for all of the clinicians and anyone visiting, — all of the clinicians and anyone visiting, whether it is visiting patients— visiting, whether it is visiting patients or as a minister or in other— patients or as a minister or in other working settings, you follow the guidance. the guidance for the specific— the guidance. the guidance for the specific settings, that is what the prime _ specific settings, that is what the prime minister did.— specific settings, that is what the prime minister did. dominic raab, thank ou prime minister did. dominic raab, thank you very _ prime minister did. dominic raab, thank you very much _ prime minister did. dominic raab, thank you very much indeed. i prime minister did. dominic raab, | thank you very much indeed. thank ou. cat thank you very much indeed. thank you- cat was _ thank you very much indeed. thank you- cat was on _ thank you very much indeed. thank you. cat was on the _ thank you very much indeed. thank you. cat was on the sofa _ thank you very much indeed. thank you. cat was on the sofa watching i you. cat was on the sofa watching that. and she _ you. cat was on the sofa watching that. and she has _ you. cat was on the sofa watching that. and she has quite _ you. cat was on the sofa watching that. and she has quite a - you. cat was on the sofa watching that. and she has quite a bit i you. cat was on the sofa watching that. and she has quite a bit of i that. and she has quite a bit of sport this morning. starting with the situation in yorkshire. yes, and i think we could in general undergoing a serious period of introspection at the moment following those allegations of racism that have rocked yorkshire county cricket club. there is a new body called the independent commission for equality in cricket. they are launching an online survey today encouraging anyone who plays cricket, whether grassroots or an elite player, professional cricketer, to go online, fill in this one that is asking these questions about people's experiences playing cricket and one that they have experienced discrimination, abuse, going to make cricket a more accessible sport for everybody. yorkshire say anybody who suffered discrimination or abuse should speak up discrimination or abuse should speak up as well as part of that survey. a former academy player has come forward to say he was racially abused by a member of staff, and new chairman lord patel thanked azeem rafiq for exposing racism at the club. well, the allegation came on the day that the new chairman lord patel apologised to former player azeem rafiq and praised his courage in exposing the racism he was subjected to. he said the club's investigation into rafiq's allegations — after which no one was disciplined — had been badly handled. we need to learn from our mistakes and ensure the right people are in place and ensure we do better. not only in terms of the root issues of racism or discrimination, but also how, as a club, we deal with any issues that arise going forward. eddie howe is the new boss at newcastle united — his appointment was confirmed almost three weeks after the departure of steve bruce. the former bournemouth manager takes over with newcastle second from bottom in the premier league, and without a win all season. bruce left by mutual consent shortly after the saudi arabian—backed takeover of the club. co—owner amanda staveley described howe as a passionate and dynamic coach. here's what some newcastle fans think. we were going to hear from newcastle fans what we have not got those this hour. chelsea continue their women's champions league campaign today, when they take on swiss side servette in geneva. chelsea currently sit second in their group behind german side wolfsburg on goal difference, and manager emma hayes thinks her team is in a good place as they approach the halfway mark in group stage. arsenal's emile smith rowe has been called up to the senior england men s squad for the first time. smith rowe was due to join the under 21s, but was upgraded to the senior squad for the world cup qualifiers against albania and san marino. marcus rashford, james ward prowse, mason mount and luke shaw have pulled out with injury and illness. quite a long list. everyone is in the doctor's office. p55 quite a long list. everyone is in the doctor's office.— quite a long list. everyone is in the doctor's office. as he got bad teeth? somebody's _ the doctor's office. as he got bad teeth? somebody's got - the doctor's office. as he got bad teeth? somebody's got wisdom l the doctor's office. as he got bad i teeth? somebody's got wisdom teeth issues? we have got a story today about how hard it is to see a dentist.— hard it is to see a dentist. maybe he is waiting _ hard it is to see a dentist. maybe he is waiting to _ hard it is to see a dentist. maybe he is waiting to find _ hard it is to see a dentist. maybe he is waiting to find an _ hard it is to see a dentist. maybe he is waiting to find an nhs i he is waiting to find an nhs dentist. ., ., , , , ., dentist. carol is testing us on the weather today. _ dentist. carol is testing us on the weather today. pay _ dentist. carol is testing us on the weather today. pay close - dentist. carol is testing us on the | weather today. pay close attention and care she asks you any questions. here we go. morning, carol. what have you got for us? ,., ., ., ., ., for us? good morning. i have got most everything _ for us? good morning. i have got most everything in _ for us? good morning. i have got most everything in this _ for us? good morning. i have got most everything in this forecast. | most everything in this forecast. first of all it is a mile start to the day. yesterday many central and eastern areas, temperatures round about freezing or above. look at this today across the land. 1112th, 13th and 14th. that is at this time of the day. it will be mild as we go through the day. maximum temperatures for the time of the year. we have a weather front sinking south producing some rain and some hilt fog. ahead of it to the cloud will build. the far south of england should stay dry bar the odd shower on the coast. behind it we have got showers across parts of scotland and northern ireland. here you can also see some sunshine. areas of cloud at times, light breezes, except for the far north where we are looking at winds of 40 miles an hour. temperatures today ten to 15 degrees. as we head through this evening and overnight here is the weather front slipping southward slowly. still rain on it, still hilt fog and still a lot of cloud. behind it some showers. they will be some clear skies as well. so, there will be a touch of frost in some sheltered lines, especially so in north—east scotland. no such issues as we come further south, certainly a mild start to the day. another cloudy one. patchy rain and lightweights. to the north of the weather front once again we are looking at a mixture of sunshine and showers. gusty winds in the far north of the country. temperatures between nine and 15. it looks like something very unsettled may be coming our way on friday. we have got it all. write it down, quick! i we have got it all. write it down, suick! ., ., we have got it all. write it down, suick! . . ._ we have got it all. write it down, tuick! ., ., quick! i am having the day off tomorrow. — quick! i am having the day off tomorrow, sell, _ quick! i am having the day off tomorrow, sell, and - quick! i am having the day off tomorrow, sell, and you i quick! i am having the day off tomorrow, sell, and you can l quick! i am having the day off i tomorrow, sell, and you can do it. never. too scared. hate tomorrow, sell, and you can do it. never. too scared.— never. too scared. we couldn't survive without _ never. too scared. we couldn't survive without your _ never. too scared. we couldn't survive without your expertise. | survive without your expertise. thank you. if you've been struggling to find an nhs dentist in recent months you may not be alone. campaigners say it's becoming an increasing issue in england, and have called on the government to do more to improve access. we've been asking people about their experiences. i'm a i'm a nurse. i usually work in leeds and essex. i had my wisdom tooth out four weeks ago. i have had some complications since. i've recently started feeling that i've been developing an infection. obviously as a nurse i know the signs and symptoms of that. i have just not been able to get the support with that. i can't get treatment either within the nhs or the private sector. i within the nhs or the private sector. ., , ., , sector. i did ring 111 last november because i had _ sector. i did ring 111 last november because i had nerve _ sector. i did ring 111 last november because i had nerve pain _ sector. i did ring 111 last november because i had nerve pain and i sector. i did ring 111 last november because i had nerve pain and the i because i had nerve pain and the pain my— because i had nerve pain and the pain my -- — because i had nerve pain and the pain my —— pain shooting up my face. ihavent— pain my —— pain shooting up my face. i haven't slept — pain my —— pain shooting up my face. i haven't slept for two nights. i was asked _ i haven't slept for two nights. i was asked if my face was swollen and i was asked if my face was swollen and i said. _ was asked if my face was swollen and i said. no, _ was asked if my face was swollen and i said. no, i_ was asked if my face was swollen and i said, no, i have no swelling at all. i said, no, i have no swelling at all~ they— i said, no, i have no swelling at all. theyjust said, then we can't uet all. theyjust said, then we can't get you — all. theyjust said, then we can't get you in— all. theyjust said, then we can't get you in for an emergency appointment. | get you in for an emergency appointment-— get you in for an emergency appointment. get you in for an emergency a- ointment. ., ., ., ,, ., appointment. i had to take it into m own appointment. i had to take it into my own hands- — appointment. i had to take it into my own hands. i— appointment. i had to take it into my own hands. i heated - appointment. i had to take it into my own hands. i heated on i appointment. i had to take it into my own hands. i heated on the i appointment. i had to take it into i my own hands. i heated on the hob and i_ my own hands. i heated on the hob and l lanced — my own hands. i heated on the hob and i lanced the _ my own hands. i heated on the hob and i lanced the boil— my own hands. i heated on the hob and i lanced the boil on _ my own hands. i heated on the hob and i lanced the boil on the - my own hands. i heated on the hob and i lanced the boil on the side i my own hands. i heated on the hob and i lanced the boil on the side of| and i lanced the boil on the side of my dom _ and i lanced the boil on the side of my dom and — and i lanced the boil on the side of my dom and got— and i lanced the boil on the side of my dom and got instant— and i lanced the boil on the side of my dom and got instant relief. i. my dom and got instant relief. i realised — my dom and got instant relief. i realised i— my dom and got instant relief. i realised i wasn't _ my dom and got instant relief. i realised i wasn't going - my dom and got instant relief. i realised i wasn't going to - my dom and got instant relief. i realised i wasn't going to get i my dom and got instant relief. ll realised i wasn't going to get any help from — realised i wasn't going to get any help from the _ realised i wasn't going to get any help from the dentist, _ realised i wasn't going to get any help from the dentist, who - realised i wasn't going to get any help from the dentist, who is- realised i wasn't going to get anyl help from the dentist, who is only going _ help from the dentist, who is only going to _ help from the dentist, who is only going to do — help from the dentist, who is only going to do emergencies. - help from the dentist, who is only going to do emergencies. new. help from the dentist, who is only going to do emergencies.- help from the dentist, who is only going to do emergencies. now i have a broken tooth _ going to do emergencies. now i have a broken tooth it's _ going to do emergencies. now i have a broken tooth it's pretty _ going to do emergencies. now i have a broken tooth it's pretty painful i a broken tooth it's pretty painful and i_ a broken tooth it's pretty painful and i cannot get an emergency appointment. i have to call every morning — appointment. i have to call every morning at— appointment. i have to call every morning at 8am and just pray that they have — morning at 8am and just pray that they have the one appointment available. my they have the one appointment available. g , , ., available. my problems began when i moved away — available. my problems began when i moved away from _ available. my problems began when i moved away from wales _ available. my problems began when i moved away from wales and - available. my problems began when i moved away from wales and moved i available. my problems began when i i moved away from wales and moved back to manchester~ _ moved away from wales and moved back to manchester~ in— moved away from wales and moved back to manchester. in wales _ moved away from wales and moved back to manchester. in wales i _ moved away from wales and moved back to manchester. in wales i had _ moved away from wales and moved back to manchester. in wales i had no - to manchester. in wales i had no problem — to manchester. in wales i had no problem seeing _ to manchester. in wales i had no problem seeing my— to manchester. in wales i had no problem seeing my dentist. i to manchester. in wales i had no problem seeing my dentist. as. to manchester. in wales i had no i problem seeing my dentist. as soon as i got— problem seeing my dentist. as soon as i got back— problem seeing my dentist. as soon as i got back to— problem seeing my dentist. as soon as i got back to manchester- problem seeing my dentist. as soon as i got back to manchester i- problem seeing my dentist. as soon as i got back to manchester i found i as i got back to manchester i found it difficult _ as i got back to manchester i found it difficult to — as i got back to manchester i found it difficult to get _ as i got back to manchester i found it difficult to get an _ as i got back to manchester i found it difficult to get an appointment. l it difficult to get an appointment. i developed — it difficult to get an appointment. i developed quite _ it difficult to get an appointment. i developed quite a _ it difficult to get an appointment. i developed quite a bit _ it difficult to get an appointment. i developed quite a bit of- it difficult to get an appointment. i developed quite a bit of a - i developed quite a bit of a toothache _ i developed quite a bit of a toothache. and _ i developed quite a bit of a toothache. and i— i developed quite a bit of a toothache. and i got- i developed quite a bit of a toothache. and i got to - i developed quite a bit of a| toothache. and i got to the i developed quite a bit of a - toothache. and i got to the point where _ toothache. and i got to the point where it— toothache. and i got to the point where it was— toothache. and i got to the point where it was getting _ toothache. and i got to the point where it was getting worse - toothache. and i got to the point where it was getting worse and l where it was getting worse and worse — where it was getting worse and worse. eventually— where it was getting worse and worse. eventually i— where it was getting worse and worse. eventually i ended - where it was getting worse and worse. eventually i ended up . where it was getting worse and - worse. eventually i ended up having to gel— worse. eventually i ended up having to gel emergency— worse. eventually i ended up having to get emergency dental _ worse. eventually i ended up having i to get emergency dental appointment in my tooth _ to get emergency dental appointment in my tooth had — to get emergency dental appointment in my tooth had to— to get emergency dental appointment in my tooth had to be _ to get emergency dental appointment in my tooth had to be extracted. - in my tooth had to be extracted. so marry— in my tooth had to be extracted. so many peorrle _ in my tooth had to be extracted. so many people sharing - in my tooth had to be extracted. so many people sharing their. so many people sharing their stories. so, what's causing the backlog? we can speak now to eddie crouch, the chair of the british dental association. good morning. thank you for being with us. i would imagine those are the sorts of stories you are hearing wherever you go at the moment? yes. wherever you go at the moment? yes, it is uuite wherever you go at the moment? yes, it is quite distressing, _ wherever you go at the moment? yes, it is quite distressing, they know as a people. we have lost about 35 million _ as a people. we have lost about 35 million appointments since the start of the _ million appointments since the start of the pandemic. those stories are sadly— of the pandemic. those stories are sadly typically true. why of the pandemic. those stories are sadly typically true.— sadly typically true. why are we in this situation? _ sadly typically true. why are we in this situation? many _ sadly typically true. why are we in this situation? many things, - sadly typically true. why are we in | this situation? many things, really. we had access _ this situation? many things, really. we had access problems _ this situation? many things, really. we had access problems to - this situation? many things, really. we had access problems to nhs . we had access problems to nhs dentistry— we had access problems to nhs dentistry before the pandemic. it hasjust— dentistry before the pandemic. it hasjust made the matter so much worse _ hasjust made the matter so much worse the — hasjust made the matter so much worse. the funding for nhs dentistry is one _ worse. the funding for nhs dentistry is one area _ worse. the funding for nhs dentistry is one area of the nhs were it's actually— is one area of the nhs were it's actually better than it was a decade a-o, actually better than it was a decade ago, remarkably. it is the number one problem that comes to health. myself— one problem that comes to health. myself and sir robert francis wrote to the _ myself and sir robert francis wrote to the chancellor ahead of the spending review. not a single penny from the _ spending review. not a single penny from the spending review has come to dentistry— from the spending review has come to dentistry and we need something that the backlog we have. the dentistry and we need something that the backlog we have.— the backlog we have. the backlog is one thin. the backlog we have. the backlog is one thing- i— the backlog we have. the backlog is one thing. i would _ the backlog we have. the backlog is one thing. i would imagine - the backlog we have. the backlog is one thing. i would imagine there . the backlog we have. the backlog is| one thing. i would imagine there are also knock—on effects in other areas of the nhs as well. for anyone who has had dental pain, when it gets really bad you can't really do anything else. you have to get medical help from somewhere? yeah, the gp and accident _ medical help from somewhere? yeah, the gp and accident and _ medical help from somewhere? yeah, the gp and accident and emergency are the _ the gp and accident and emergency are the wrong places to go for dental— are the wrong places to go for dental treatment. the numbers of antibiotics— dental treatment. the numbers of antibiotics been prescribed for people — antibiotics been prescribed for people who really need dental treatment is inappropriate. and at a time when _ treatment is inappropriate. and at a time when we have got problems with antibiotic— time when we have got problems with antibiotic resistance it is not the way forward. the antibiotic resistance it is not the way forward-— antibiotic resistance it is not the wa forward. . . , ., ., ., way forward. the advice is to go to an emergency _ way forward. the advice is to go to an emergency centre _ way forward. the advice is to go to an emergency centre if _ way forward. the advice is to go to an emergency centre if you - way forward. the advice is to go to an emergency centre if you have . way forward. the advice is to go to i an emergency centre if you have got problems. is an emergency centre if you have got roblems. , ., an emergency centre if you have got roblems. , . ., :: :: problems. is that not right? the 700 emeruen problems. is that not right? the 700 emergency centres _ problems. is that not right? the 700 emergency centres they _ problems. is that not right? the 700 emergency centres they set - problems. is that not right? the 700 emergency centres they set up - problems. is that not right? the 700 emergency centres they set up at - problems. is that not right? the 700| emergency centres they set up at the start of— emergency centres they set up at the start of the _ emergency centres they set up at the start of the pandemic are in the main— start of the pandemic are in the main general practices and they are trying _ main general practices and they are trying to— main general practices and they are trying to do— main general practices and they are trying to do with their own patients as well _ trying to do with their own patients as well it — trying to do with their own patients as well. it is not the solution, perfectly _ as well. it is not the solution, perfectly. what we need is some financial— perfectly. what we need is some financial assistance to dentists, so that we _ financial assistance to dentists, so that we can — financial assistance to dentists, so that we can see more patients. diy dentist , that we can see more patients. diy dentistry. i — that we can see more patients. diy dentistry. i can _ that we can see more patients. idiiitj’ dentistry, i can see you shaking your head already. not something you would recommend to anybody. you can understand why maybe there is somebody watching this morning in bad pain, who doesn't know what to do about it, the painkillers are not helping, what do they do? well. do about it, the painkillers are not helping, what do they do? well, 111, i'm afraid, helping, what do they do? well, 111, pm afraid. is — helping, what do they do? well, 111, i'm afraid, is probably _ helping, what do they do? well, 111, i'm afraid, is probably the _ helping, what do they do? well, 111, i'm afraid, is probably the answer. i'm afraid, is probably the answer for them — i'm afraid, is probably the answer forthem. many i'm afraid, is probably the answer for them. many of those patients are struggling _ for them. many of those patients are struggling to gain access. in certain— struggling to gain access. in certain parts of the country it is easier— certain parts of the country it is easier than _ certain parts of the country it is easier than others. i certain parts of the country it is easierthan others. i mean, in cornwall— easierthan others. i mean, in cornwall prior to the pandemic people — cornwall prior to the pandemic people are having to wait about 18 months _ people are having to wait about 18 months for an nhs appointment. that is probably— months for an nhs appointment. that is probably about three years now. we are _ is probably about three years now. we are talking about england. what is the situation in other parts of the uk? ., , , , the uk? there has been better financial support _ the uk? there has been better financial support for _ the uk? there has been better financial support for dentist - the uk? there has been better financial support for dentist in | financial support for dentist in scotland, wales and northern ireland — scotland, wales and northern ireland. they have had some funding to assist— ireland. they have had some funding to assist them with equipment. we have not— to assist them with equipment. we have not had a single penny inning them~ _ have not had a single penny inning them in _ have not had a single penny inning them. in wales they are going through— them. in wales they are going through a _ them. in wales they are going through a contract review at the moment, — through a contract review at the moment, which is going to help them. what about— moment, which is going to help them. what about the... money makes a difference. are dentists going private because of money concerns? how does that impact on the industry? i how does that impact on the industry?— how does that impact on the indust ? ~' ., . industry? i think the morale in the profession. _ industry? i think the morale in the profession, and _ industry? i think the morale in the profession, and i— industry? i think the morale in the profession, and i have _ industry? i think the morale in the profession, and i have worked - industry? i think the morale in the profession, and i have worked in l profession, and i have worked in dentistry— profession, and i have worked in dentistry for 37 years, i have never seen _ dentistry for 37 years, i have never seen my— dentistry for 37 years, i have never seen my colleagues so demoralised. unless _ seen my colleagues so demoralised. unless something really adventurous is put _ unless something really adventurous is put forward by the government to modernise _ is put forward by the government to modernise dentistry and make it a place _ modernise dentistry and make it a place where we can treat our patients _ place where we can treat our patients appropriately, i don't patients appropriately, idon't think— patients appropriately, i don't think we — patients appropriately, i don't think we are going to have a solution _ think we are going to have a solution. ~ think we are going to have a solution-— think we are going to have a solution. ~ . ., ., , ., solution. we have got lots of comments — solution. we have got lots of comments coming _ solution. we have got lots of comments coming in - solution. we have got lots of comments coming in from i solution. we have got lots of - comments coming in from viewers. i will reduce on. thank you to all of those who sent these m. jodi has tweeted, impossible to get appointments, wouldn't see you unless you booked with a hygienist first. ignored concerns and cancelled appointments. this was after two years of trying to book an appointment and she finally gave up. is that a common story that you are hearing? is that a common story that you are hearin: ? ., �* is that a common story that you are hearin- ? . ~ , g is that a common story that you are hearin: ? . ~ , g . is that a common story that you are hearin: ? . ~ , . , . ., hearing? yeah. and staff at dental ractices hearing? yeah. and staff at dental practices are _ hearing? yeah. and staff at dental practices are getting _ hearing? yeah. and staff at dental practices are getting the _ hearing? yeah. and staff at dental practices are getting the brunt - hearing? yeah. and staff at dental practices are getting the brunt of. practices are getting the brunt of that on— practices are getting the brunt of that on a — practices are getting the brunt of that on a daily basis. the messaging from the _ that on a daily basis. the messaging from the government and the nhs has not been _ from the government and the nhs has not been strong enough. adam from the government and the nhs has not been strong enough.— not been strong enough. adam says, i have not been — not been strong enough. adam says, i have not been able _ not been strong enough. adam says, i have not been able to _ not been strong enough. adam says, i have not been able to find _ not been strong enough. adam says, i have not been able to find a _ not been strong enough. adam says, i have not been able to find a single - have not been able to find a single practice locally taking on new nhs patients. they are all either private or not taking on patients at all. what do you do in that situation?— all. what do you do in that situation? g ., . situation? my own practice was stru: aalin situation? my own practice was struggling to — situation? my own practice was struggling to actually _ situation? my own practice was struggling to actually deal - situation? my own practice was struggling to actually deal with | situation? my own practice was . struggling to actually deal with the patients— struggling to actually deal with the patients we had on our list before the pandemic. so it's impossible to take on— the pandemic. so it's impossible to take on new— the pandemic. so it's impossible to take on new patients at the moment. we are _ take on new patients at the moment. we are only— take on new patients at the moment. we are only providing about 50% to 60% of— we are only providing about 50% to 60% of the — we are only providing about 50% to 60% of the appointments we did before _ 60% of the appointments we did before the pandemic. | 60% of the appointments we did before the pandemic.— before the pandemic. i hope you realise we're _ before the pandemic. i hope you realise we're not _ before the pandemic. i hope you realise we're not blaming - before the pandemic. i hope you realise we're not blaming you i before the pandemic. i hope you i realise we're not blaming you these issues. ., . ., , issues. no, i have got broad shoulders- _ issues. no, i have got broad shoulders. freddie - issues. no, i have got broad shoulders. freddie says i issues. no, i have got broad shoulders. freddie says hisl issues. no, i have got broad i shoulders. freddie says his wife is reanant shoulders. freddie says his wife is pregnant so _ shoulders. freddie says his wife is pregnant so she — shoulders. freddie says his wife is pregnant so she is _ shoulders. freddie says his wife is pregnant so she is entitled - shoulders. freddie says his wife is pregnant so she is entitled to i shoulders. freddie says his wife is pregnant so she is entitled to free i pregnant so she is entitled to free dental care and there is nothing available. a four year waiting list, which is pointless. private companies have no obligation to provide extra support for pregnant people. it's probably the wrong thing to say but you can see why people are banging their heads against the wall, which won't help with your dental issues? trio. with your dental issues? no, absolutely- _ with your dental issues? no, absolutely. i— with your dental issues? no, absolutely. i would - with your dental issues? no, absolutely. i would advise anyone who can't — absolutely. i would advise anyone who can't get access to an nhs dentist— who can't get access to an nhs dentist to — who can't get access to an nhs dentist to write to their mps. i have _ dentist to write to their mps. i have meetings every week with mps about— have meetings every week with mps about the _ have meetings every week with mps about the problems they have got but mps are _ about the problems they have got but mps are the solution. when about the problems they have got but mps are the solution.— mps are the solution. when you say the government _ mps are the solution. when you say the government do _ mps are the solution. when you say the government do something, i mps are the solution. when you say i the government do something, magical or amazing, what do they need to do? they need to work with the profession to come up with a solution _ profession to come up with a solution. contract changes are part of it _ solution. contract changes are part of it. , ,, ., . i. of it. ok. do let us know what you think about _ of it. ok. do let us know what you think about that. _ of it. ok. do let us know what you think about that. we _ of it. ok. do let us know what you think about that. we have - of it. ok. do let us know what you think about that. we have had i of it. ok. do let us know what you think about that. we have had sol think about that. we have had so many comments because, as you well understand, there are many people out there in that desperate situation. do let us know. send us in your comments. and anything else we are talking about this morning. eddie, thank you for answering our questions and trying to attend to some of those concerns. if you are really worried this morning about pain in their wrong mouth or their friends and family and can't find a solution. it so upsetting. you friends and family and can't find a solution. it so upsetting.- solution. it so upsetting. you are as frustrated. _ solution. it so upsetting. you are as frustrated. i _ solution. it so upsetting. you are as frustrated. i can _ solution. it so upsetting. you are as frustrated. i can tell. - stay with us. headlines coming up. good morning, welcome to breakfast with dan walker and sally nugent. our headlines today. get vaccinated or risk losing yourjob — front line nhs workers in england will today be told they will have to get double jabbed by the spring. a ten—year—old boy dies after he was attacked by a dog in south wales. rescued after two days trapped underground — an injured caver is brought to safety. he's said to be in good spirits. just amazing. it is the biggest rescue any of us have done. i hope will ever do. good morning, all aboard the wine express as extra services are laid on to help deliver 4 million bottles of wine we ask whether railways beat the roads when it comes in the future of freight. yorkshire are investigating a new racism allegation — this time from a former academy cricketer. it comes after their new chairman said azeem rafiq should be praised for being a whistleblower on discrimination. good morning, a mile day with cloud aroundand sam rain across parts of england and wales and showers in scotland and northern ireland. in between, bright skies or sunny spells. the details later. it's tuesday, 9th of november. breaking news. front—line nhs staff in england will be required to be fully vaccinated with the government is expected to make the announcement later today. a deadline will be set for next spring to give time for workers to have both doses. our health editor hugh pym reports. compulsory vaccination against covid for staff in adult social care is already being implemented in england. there's a deadline later this week for care workers to comply, apart from those deemed to be exempt. it's understood that, later today, the government will announce that the policy will be extended to staff in patient—facing roles in the nhs in england. they'll be required as a condition of deployment in those posts to be double—jabbed by next spring, unless there are medical reasons for exemption. the deadline has been set to allow for the gap between first and second doses. around 90% of nhs staff in england have already been vaccinated against covid. the health secretary, sajid javid, said last month that he was leaning towards compulsoryjabs for nhs staff and the main issue was patient safety. health leaders say they see the benefits of the policy, asa as a doctor i take it for granted i have to be vaccinated against hepatitis b so i don't put patients at risk of an incurable illness that could cause liver cancer, and i have been required to do that the entire 36 years i have been a doctor. it is not as if this is entirely new. health leaders say they see the benefits of the policy, though some have expressed reservations, arguing that there is a risk some staff might quit at a time of concerns about staffing gaps. there are still between 80,000, 90,000 staff who have not been vaccinated and it is important we work hard with them over the next months before the deadline to try to get as many as possible vaccinated so we do not face this problem of a cliff edge of effectively numbers of staff leaving. the health union unison has argued that the key to convincing hesitant staff should be persuasion, not force. decisions on the issue are devolved and it's possible that the other uk nations will take a different route to england. a man who was injured while caving in the brecon beacons has been rescued after being trapped underground for two days. he is said to be in good spirits after 250 people worked in shifts to bring him to safety. hywel griffith sent this report. mission accomplished. after more than two days of painstaking, exhausting work, relief all round. together, these volunteers carried the casualty through an underground assault course of boulders, streams and ledges, the longest stretcher carry ever by a british cave rescue team. it is absolutely amazing. the cooperation, the professionalism. everybody dealt with it. the controllers, down to the grunts on the sharp end, it was just amazing. it's the biggest rescue any of us have done, i hope will ever do. the casualty is an experienced caver in his 405. on saturday, he fell and suffered multiple injuries, but could talk to his rescuers throughout. when you consider how long he has been in the cave, how long he has been in the stretcher, he is doing very well indeed. so he's been talking to the medics along the way and they have been having a conversation, but we are waiting for them to come out, now. but we are waiting for this is what draws enthusiasts here. but we are waiting for a sculpted subterranean world, in places almost 300 metres deep. it attracts cavers from across the uk. after 50 hours underground and the efforts of 250 volunteers, the casualty is now safe and on their way to hospital. bringing this rescue operation to a successful conclusion. for the volunteers, days of endeavour and years of training have tonight brought their reward. of endeavour and years of training a 10—year—old boy has died after being attacked by a dog in south wales. the incident occurred at a house in caerphilly at around four o'clock yesterday afternoon. our reporter tomos morgan is there for us this morning. what more can you tell us? ijust what more can you tell us? i 'ust soke to what more can you tell us? i 'ust spoke to locals i what more can you tell us? i 'ust spoke to locals who i what more can you tell us? i 'ust spoke to locals who live i what more can you tell us? ijust spoke to locals who live here, i spoke to locals who live here, completely torn apart by what happened yesterday afternoon when the police and emergency services were called at around 3:55pm to an incident here, just outside caerphilly, when the welsh ambulance service and paramedics arrived, a ten—year—old boy was pronounced dead at the scene. it is believed he was attacked by a dog. the dog was destroyed straightaway. this morning, there has been police presence. gwent police continue investigations here and we expect an update at some point in the next hour or two from gwent police as to how their investigation is progressing. they told the public there will be an increased presence in the area as they continue their investigation, but not to be alarmed as they do so. i think the question will be how did this incident take place and where, and could anything have been done to prevent it? we expect an update at some point later this morning as the police continue investigations into the tragedy that happened yesterday afternoon here in caerphilly. happened yesterday afternoon here in caerhill . ., ~ happened yesterday afternoon here in caerhill. . ,, the prime minister has refused to apologise over the government's attempt to change the rules governing how mps standards of conduct should be enforced. mrjohnson wasn't at an emergency debate about the subject yesterday — with labour accusing him of 'running scared'. no 10 said it was due to a "long—standing commitment" to visit a hospital. we can speak to adam fleming. you will no doubt listening to what dominic raab said on that issue. it sounds like the government will put the power in the hands of the house of commons standards committee to look into these issues. they were looking into these anyway because thatis looking into these anyway because that is theirjob and also because they are in the process right now of writing a new code of conduct for mp5. their intention is that will be mps. their intention is that will be published and debated before christmas and that will become the point at which parliament has another conversation about the rules for disciplining mps and whether mps have the right to appeal that decision and also the rules around mps having second jobs, which is rising up the agenda. because newspapers have combed through the register of mps' interests, to see who has been doing what. in terms of the debate, we did not see the prime minister. we saw the cabinet office minister steve barclay and said the government regretted what they did when they linked the case of owen paterson, an individual, with a potential reform of the system for how mps are disciplined. also what yesterday revealed worse cracks on this within the conservative party with the former chief whip mark harper, who used to be responsible for party discipline saying the prime minister should have been there and apologising to mp5. you had mps elected in 2019 saying mps who had been around longer had maybe been too sympathetic to owen paterson and also been patronising to the new ones. and others on the standards committee at odds about how it should work in the future. it might not peak as an issue again for anotherfew weeks. taste might not peak as an issue again for another few weeks.— another few weeks. we have been kee - in: another few weeks. we have been keeping carol— another few weeks. we have been keeping carol on _ another few weeks. we have been keeping carol on her— another few weeks. we have been keeping carol on her toes. - keeping carol on her toes. good morning. if you have not stepped outside it is a mile start. certainly in central and eastern areas, milderthan certainly in central and eastern areas, milder than yesterday. certainly in central and eastern areas, milderthan yesterday. for the next few days areas, milder than yesterday. for the next few days we are looking areas, milderthan yesterday. for the next few days we are looking at spots of rain and this morning it is in southern scotland, northern england, north wales and slowly moving southwards. cloud will build ahead of it but we will hang on to sunshine in some southern counties with possibly the odd shower. we have showers moving south across scotland and northern ireland. then we are looking at a mixture of sunny spells with areas of cloud and also more showers across the north and west. gusty wind in the far north of scotland. up to 50 mph. generally, light wind for most. temperatures 10-15. light wind for most. temperatures 10—15. overnight, we have a weather front slowly slipping south across england and wales. cloud associated with this ant hill fog. behind it showers, but also clear skies and in sheltered lens in the north—east of scotland, temperatures will fall no enough for frost. it means tomorrow first thing, there will be sunshine under clear skies. showers in scotland and northern ireland but a lot of drying weather and sunshine. england and wales, showers and sunshine. this is the weather front in southern areas producing cloud and spots of rain. temperatures nine in the north, 111—15 as the top temperature. it is a morning where you need a brain. it certainly is. i have a frog in my throat. i am sorry. —— you need a cup of tea. i will send you love and a cup of tea. thousands of ceramic poppies have found a new home in trafford. it was part of the world one centenary commemorations. our report is there. good morning. welcome to imperial war museum north. this is poppies, 30 metres high, reaching up to the top of this building and this is a culmination of two pieces of work from 2014 that marks the centenary of the first world war. the artist who came up with the idea is here today. what is your impression of this new piece of work? it today. what is your impression of this new piece of work?— this new piece of work? it looks fantastic in _ this new piece of work? it looks fantastic in this _ this new piece of work? it looks fantastic in this phase. - this new piece of work? it looks fantastic in this phase. the i this new piece of work? it looks i fantastic in this phase. the redness against the metal, it looks spectacular, and also brings home what each flower represents, a person who died in the first world war. in the imperial war museum, the country's keeping of the history of the war. it is mind blowing it is left here, it has come home to rest. it makes me proud. it was your original idea. take us back to when you have the first thought that this is what you wanted to achieve. first of all at the tower of london and then the tour around the uk and finally here today. in then the tour around the uk and finally here today.— then the tour around the uk and finally here today. in 2012 i found the will of a _ finally here today. in 2012 i found the will of a lady _ finally here today. in 2012 i found the will of a lady who _ finally here today. in 2012 i found the will of a lady who fought i finally here today. in 2012 i found the will of a lady who fought in i finally here today. in 2012 i found l the will of a lady who fought in the first world war, which was unusual and kicked my memory and some sort of spirit in my head to carry on going. it was the idea of how many people died in the first world war, how many people would survive, what i could do to represent it. ifound out how many. i persuaded loads of people to work with me on this and the place to do it. i don't know, it was something that came about and needed to happen. it all fell into place. 300 people to make them, three places. it became one massive family and we wanted to do it. the ma'ori family and we wanted to do it. the majority of — family and we wanted to do it. the majority of those poppies were bought by families, 13,000 of them gifted to the nation and this is what makes up poppies, combining the wave and weeping window. the what makes up poppies, combining the wave and weeping window.— wave and weeping window. the ladies who bou~ht wave and weeping window. the ladies who bought them _ wave and weeping window. the ladies who bought them were _ wave and weeping window. the ladies who bought them were fantastic i wave and weeping window. the ladies who bought them were fantastic to i wave and weeping window. the ladiesj who bought them were fantastic to do it and give it to the nation. it gave a chance for them to have a life going around the country and i suppose like people who were forgotten, they found a home here to rest for the rest of their time. each and every poppy represents a life last in the front line of battle in the first world war but the significance of the poppy for everyone who lost a loved one. the final poppy will be put in place by cheryl, in memory of your son. what cheryl, in memory of your son. what kind of a guy — cheryl, in memory of your son. what kind of a guy was _ cheryl, in memory of your son. what kind of a guy was he? _ cheryl, in memory of your son. what kind of a guy was he? he _ cheryl, in memory of your son. twist kind of a guy was he? he was cheryl, in memory of your son. ryousgt kind of a guy was he? he was a wonderful guy. 1 million watts smile and always made people laugh, and a joke at everything. abs, and always made people laugh, and a joke at everything-— joke at everything. a very good lad. he wrote a — joke at everything. a very good lad. he wrote a letter _ joke at everything. a very good lad. he wrote a letter before _ joke at everything. a very good lad. he wrote a letter before he - joke at everything. a very good lad. he wrote a letter before he went i joke at everything. a very good lad. he wrote a letter before he went to | he wrote a letter before he went to afghanistan to be read if he died. do you remember what that said? i can remember it. dad, don't be sad, i died doing what i love and serving the british army was it. it then went on and left messages for his brothers and sisters and his mum cheryl. abs. brothers and sisters and his mum che l. �* , ., . ., cheryl. a very thoughtful lad. you have one of _ cheryl. a very thoughtful lad. you have one of the _ cheryl. a very thoughtful lad. you have one of the poppies _ cheryl. a very thoughtful lad. you have one of the poppies that i cheryl. a very thoughtful lad. you have one of the poppies that sits| cheryl. a very thoughtful lad. you l have one of the poppies that sits on his grave. how would he feel about what you are doing today? he would be over the — what you are doing today? he would be over the moon, _ what you are doing today? he would be over the moon, he _ what you are doing today? he would be over the moon, he would - what you are doing today? he would be over the moon, he would love i what you are doing today? he would be over the moon, he would love it, j be over the moon, he would love it, to be remembered this way.- to be remembered this way. cheryl, almost 15 years _ to be remembered this way. cheryl, almost 15 years since _ to be remembered this way. cheryl, almost 15 years since you _ to be remembered this way. cheryl, almost 15 years since you last i to be remembered this way. cheryl, almost 15 years since you last tony. | almost 15 years since you last tony. time does not heal that hurt. irlat time does not heal that hurt. not reall . time does not heal that hurt. not really- you _ time does not heal that hurt. not really. you just _ time does not heal that hurt. not really. you just learn to live with it, really. — really. you 'ust learn to live with it, reall . ., . ., it, really. you are holding the final poppy _ it, really. you are holding the final poppy that _ it, really. you are holding the final poppy that you - it, really. you are holding the final poppy that you will i it, really. you are holding the final poppy that you will put l it, really. you are holding the| final poppy that you will put in place. we will let you do that in a moment. ., ., , ., , moment. how does it feel to be involved? _ moment. how does it feel to be involved? l _ moment. how does it feel to be involved? i am _ moment. how does it feel to be involved? i am so _ moment. how does it feel to be involved? i am so proud. i moment. how does it feel to be involved? i am so proud. there| moment. how does it feel to be i involved? i am so proud. there is a secial involved? i am so proud. there is a special place _ involved? i am so proud. there is a special place for — involved? i am so proud. there is a special place for this _ involved? i am so proud. there is a special place for this final - involved? i am so proud. there is a special place for this final poppy i special place for this final poppy and we will let channel put it in place here at imperial war museum north. the final piece in this new installation. it will open to the public tomorrow. back to you. thank you very much. that is the most beautiful installation. breathtaking. remember the initial photographs. and seeing them at the tower of london. dramatic is probably not the right word but incredible to see it. when you see them in place and think of the lives lost. it is the numbers, isn't it? it is the simplicity of it that makes it powerful. let's have a look at it now. this is the installation going up at the imperial war museum. this camera was set up while it was put in place. a huge amount of work. but breathtaking, as it is being revealed. and as you just heard, every single p°ppy. and as you just heard, every single poppy. it and as you just heard, every single poppy, it represents and 35 you just heard, every single p°ppy, it represents an and as you just heard, every single poppy, it represents an individual, but it is the family and memories behind that. that is why it is so important to stop and think about what those families have gone through and sacrifices made. a beautiful thing. afghanistan we have talked about a lot and millions of people in that country faced starvation this winter in what the un says is fast becoming the world's worst humanitarian crisis. the head of the world food programme said the country risks turning into hell on earth following drought and withdrawal of us and allied troops. we can speak tojohn simpson now, whojoins us from afghanistan. it is great to see you this morning. i have watched reports you have been filing, deeply moving stories. tell me now about the situation and what it is like where you are today. it is a strange feeling. i have been to various crises of this sort but further down the road, when people are actually walking skeletons, dying by the roadside, it is not like that here. the people look pretty reasonably well fed. there is food in the shop still. but everybody knows thatjust around the corner, just maybe a couple of weeks away, three weeks away, the snow is coming, it looks like being a really bad winter. there has been a drought here most of the year. people have got no money to buy food. and they are looking over the edge of the precipice. they will have an awful lot of access to international news media as you expect, although bbc radio is listened to by huge numbers of people. they know it. everybody knows it is just going to happen. that is why it is quite emotional. you do you think about your own children, grandchildren, who before christmas, these people here, so similar in many ways, could be dying of hunger. we are seeing images of the family you spoke to in the report you filed. just the most incredible story. the family of seven children. tell us about the situation they are in. you were deeply moved by what you saw. i in. you were deeply moved by what ou saw. ., , in. you were deeply moved by what ou saw. . , ., in. you were deeply moved by what ou saw. ., ., , in. you were deeply moved by what ou saw. ., .,, ., , you saw. i was. to be honest, i thinki you saw. i was. to be honest, i think i went — you saw. i was. to be honest, i think i went over— you saw. i was. to be honest, i think i went over the _ you saw. i was. to be honest, i think i went over the top. i i you saw. i was. to be honest, i think i went over the top. i did | you saw. i was. to be honest, i. think i went over the top. i did not mean to. it was not terribly professional of me but anyway, that is in the past now. that family live on a piece of bread a day. that is their meal. the kids can sometimes get something at school but usually not very much. basically, that is where they are now. the mother used to earn money reading the fields but the farmers are pretty much going out of business because of the drought —— and reading the fields. a little boy was practising training to be a shepherd but the guy who owns the sheep simply is not able to keep the same number of sheep and he cannot hire anybody, even a kid on pennies a day. so they have absolutely nothing. the urgency is not that they are starving right now, but that they will be starving in a few weeks. that is what age agencies here want to do. they want to sort out the problem —— aid agencies want to sort out the problem before it gets desperate. the mother in that situation was faced with the most impossible question. you asked her, if they are absolutely desperate, what is the final thing you might be able to do to help yourfamily. tell us final thing you might be able to do to help your family. tell us what she answered.— to help your family. tell us what she answered. well, i said to her uuite a she answered. well, i said to her quite a lot _ she answered. well, i said to her quite a lot of— she answered. well, i said to her quite a lot of women _ she answered. well, i said to her quite a lot of women are - she answered. well, i said to her quite a lot of women are selling i quite a lot of women are selling their daughters to older men for marriage. would you do that? she has these two very sweet daughters, 16 and 15. like my daughters once were. and she said, she would have to do it if it was a question of keeping the family from absolute dire starvation. she said of course she would hate to do it. and the two girls were of course totally horrified by the idea. theyjust want to go back to school. but these taliban will not let older girls go to school. that is the situation they are faced with, selling their children to make sure the whole family has enough food simply to get through the day. just that one piece of bread to get them through the day. taste of bread to get them through the da . ~ ., of bread to get them through the da . ~ . ., . ., day. we heard from the head of the world food — day. we heard from the head of the world food programme _ day. we heard from the head of the world food programme who - day. we heard from the head of the world food programme who spoke | world food programme who spoke passionately about the situation. how important is it people listen? the news we'd talk about most mornings is domestic, we are talking about different crises at home. how important is it people listen now? i important is it people listen now? i think they have to feel there is a point to helping. this is... i have done this so many times where you watch television and you think, there is nothing i can do whatsoever. actually, because the aid agencies are making a fuss before the worst of the crisis hits us, it is possible for people to make money over to the international community. my colleagues here, and i worked it out that if the people just living in those caves and a roundabout, the really poor ones, to feed them, get them through winter, would only cost about £200,000. we are not talking millions and billions. but it has to be done. the aid agencies have to do it. a lot of people say, well, that money obviously is going in the pockets of officials. i am certainly not saying the taliban are not corrupt because i am afraid every politician orjust about in afghanistan, there is an element of corruption. but the taliban are people who have just arrived in power. they do not have the scope and ability to control the country in that way. the aid agencies, that a man from the world food programme i interviewed, he said the taliban are operating very helpfully with them. they are just doing everything the world food programme want because the taliban themselves know how desperate this is. they know the whole place could come crashing around their ears and they won't help so that they are allowing the aid agencies to do anything that the agencies think they ought to do. i have seen the food yelled out, it is well organised. the taliban are doing the organisation. people do not have to worry their money will end up in a bank account in geneva. the government here, they are just not operating on that level. they have no idea about corruption on that scale, like the previous government did. and so there are people —— things people can do and can be done with assurance. you things people can do and can be done with assurance.— with assurance. you are in taliban -controlled _ with assurance. you are in taliban -controlled territory. _ with assurance. you are in taliban -controlled territory. i _ with assurance. you are in taliban -controlled territory. i want i with assurance. you are in taliban -controlled territory. i want to i with assurance. you are in taliban| -controlled territory. i want to ask —controlled territory. i want to ask you, we mentioned the family at the start of this conversation. how representative is that family of other families representative is that family of otherfamilies near representative is that family of other families near where you are now? i other families near where you are now? ~' ., . , other families near where you are now? ,, ., . , ., . , now? i think totally, totally representative. _ now? i think totally, totally representative. 0k, - now? i think totally, totally representative. 0k, fine, . now? i think totally, totally representative. 0k, fine, i| now? i think totally, totally i representative. 0k, fine, i said to our superb fixer here please find us a poorfamily. he found us a particularly poor family. a poorfamily. he found us a particularly poorfamily. but a poorfamily. he found us a particularly poor family. but not so poon particularly poor family. but not so poor, probably not the poorest, even in these caves behind us. there will be people who are worse off than them. there are some better off people. there are plenty of people who will get through this crisis unscathed. but there will be hundreds of thousands, millions of people who live in dire conditions who will not survive if they are not helped. it who will not survive if they are not heled. , ., ., ., ~ ., helped. it is great to talk to you this morning. _ helped. it is great to talk to you this morning. john _ helped. it is great to talk to you this morning. john simpson - helped. it is great to talk to you i this morning. john simpson talking live from afghanistan on the situation, the impending crisis. at the start of the chat he said he was a little embarrassed getting emotional about covering the story and in the many years of reporting is something he has not shown publicly before. can i say thank you to those who got in contact on a range of issues from sending pictures of your dog is watching tv, to some of the stuff we have talked about, including trying to get a dental appointment. some people say they are able to get appointments. but many out there, they have shared frustrations this morning. thank you for getting in contact. i love it when everybody gets in touch. it is part of the conversation, what we do in the morning. we are here because you are watching and we love to be part of a dental appointment. some people say they are able to get appointments. but many good morning. i'm asad ahmad. ambulances at a hospital in hertfordshire are having to sometimes wait up to five hours to hand over patients to an a&e department. and while they're at the lister hospital in stevenage, they could be in a queue of almost a dozen ambulances waiting to do the same. east and north hertfordshire nhs trust accepts the situation is "extremely seriously". but they say they believe they "do better than many other places". after the recent shortage of hgv drivers, there's a warning of a shortage of security and other staff working in london's night—time economy. as demand for security staff has increased at covid testing sites and shopping centres, there aren't the staff to fill all the vacancies left behind, which means some venues might have to reduce their hours or close altogether. over the last 19 months, you know, of closure, particularly for the businesses that predominantly use security, many of those people have had to find work elsewhere. on top of that you've got brexit and you've also got the requirement in the public realm for more security. a bus company has started offering free travel passes to the homeless, or those at risk of losing their homes, wanting to get to job interviews. reading buses has teamed—up with the homeless prevention charity, launchpad, to help people make essentialjourneys. the company already offers discounted travel to people withjob centre plus cards, who actively looking for work. a look at the travel situation now. now the weather with kate. good morning. it is a misty start but a very mild one. temperatures overnight and stayed in double figures. we do have a cold front bearing towards us. that will bring more cloud. ahead of it we are hanging onto this mild air. we've got a few bright spells when the mist and fog lifts. we will still see some bright and sunny spells. cloud thickening towards the end of the afternoon as it heads south. maximum temperatures 16 celsius. very mild. overnight that cold front really takes its time. it is gradually going to increase the cloud. some spots of rain potentially as we head into wednesday. the minimum temperature between nine and ii celsius. another mild night. that cold front stalls and stays with us through tomorrow. patchy rain. thursday remaining cloudy. you will notice that area of low pressure coming in from the west, heading towards us towards the end of the week. that turns the weather more unsettled on friday. the temperatures stay mild but gradually getting a little bit chillier as we had through the weekend. i'm back in half an hour. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with sally nugent and dan walker. morning live follows us on bbc one this morning. let's find out what's in store with sara and gethin. coming up on morning live... it happens in a blink of an eye and without you even knowing. following a recent rise in drink—spiking in pubs and clubs, dr punam tells us how to spot the signs and what to do if you or a loved one is targeted. and, as studies show you're more likely to get some cancers — - but less likely to survive them if you're black, dr esho - investigates why this is and shares the personal reason he wants - to change the stigma surrounding the disease in his community. - also today — around two million tonnes of electrical items are thrown away in the uk every year, but dom littlewood uncovers the secrets to extending the life span of your appliances so you can help save the planet and some cash. plus, it's the time of year. for comfort food and there's nothing more comforting| than a good old crumble. our chef anna haugh tells us why it doesn't just - have to be for dessert — you can even make one with sausages! i she likes mixing it up. in today's strictly fitness, janette teaches us the charleston inspired by clara and aljaz's strictly performance from 2020. and, he's spent the last - two decades travelling the world, but adventurer simon reeve is sticking to home turf- for his latest series. he shows us a side to the lake . district we've never seen before. see you at 9:15. see you then. i'm there. i'm excited about sir kevin _ see you then. i'm there. i'm excited about sir kevin sinfield. _ see you then. i'm there. i'm excited about sir kevin sinfield. i _ see you then. i'm there. i'm excited about sir kevin sinfield. i know - about sir kevin sinfield. i know he's not so kevin yet. a year and after running seven marathons in seven days, kevin sinfield is preparing again to lace up those trainers for another epic challenge in aid of motor neurone disease research. , , research. this time he will be attempting — research. this time he will be attempting to _ research. this time he will be attempting to run _ research. this time he will be attempting to run 101 - research. this time he will be attempting to run 101 miles . research. this time he will be l attempting to run 101 miles in research. this time he will be - attempting to run 101 miles in 204i was. the route will take in from leicester tigers, where he is currently working as a coach, to his old club, leeds rhinos. he currently working as a coach, to his old club, leeds rhinos.— old club, leeds rhinos. he is doing it aaain to old club, leeds rhinos. he is doing it again to help _ old club, leeds rhinos. he is doing it again to help his _ old club, leeds rhinos. he is doing it again to help his friend _ old club, leeds rhinos. he is doing it again to help his friend rob - it again to help his friend rob burrow, diagnosed with mnd in 2019. we have been catching up with kevin and his new team as they build up to this new challenge. kev is one of those people who when he speaks, you listen. people gravitate towards him because he is so decent. humble. it sounds like i have got a massive man crush. i probably do. the way he speaks, | you've got to listen. his presence lights up a room in those team meetings. - he doesn't say much because he still doesn't know what is going on about. that is the reality of it. he's rugby league. he is still talking about sets of six. i'm like, kev, get it out of your system, mate. it's been a huge challenge switching. the sports are similar, but massively different as well. i didn't know anybody. i started from scratch. i suppose in many ways rob, and what we did for rob last december, pushed me down this route, the fact you have to take some risks and try to get the most out of your life. this opportunity presented itself. it's been great. he has brought quiet authority. he's very comfortable in his own skin as a coach. it took me ages, years, and you can see why he was captain for so long. those are the qualities he brings. a quiet leadership. my wife suggested running with both clubs. do the maths and work out of the route. it was all inspired by rob. he will be in all of our heads and hearts when we take on the run. we are going to do our best for him. i think it's crazy, to be fair. it works out to be 160 kilometres or something. credit to him. he is doing it for a good mate of his struggling at the moment. it just shows the character of him. the guy you want to go into the trenches with because he'll do anything for you. everybody here is proud of him. good morning, leicestertigers. inspirational, admirable, - incredible and what a fantastic thing to do for a friend. what more could you do? it'sjust awesome. he is doing great at the minute. he is pulling together for the defence. he's a great bloke. he's running from leicester to leeds rhinos, 100 miles. one of the first things kev spoke to us about when he arrived - was you play with your mates and you get a bond _ that lasts a lifetime. the bond he has with his team—mates, with leeds, he has built— that with leicester. it inspires him to run. since i've met kev he has actually made me feel really bad about myself because he's a pretty good man, isn't he? he's pretty special. it's a ridiculous challenge, isn't it? absolutely ridiculous. there's got to be something pretty strong about him. he's already done something ridiculous, seven in seven days. he runs a marathon for fun now. it is so far out of my realm of understanding, that i have absolutely no idea. i'm so proud of him. firstly, to be able to do what he does in terms of the errors and the diligence that goes into coaching a premiership team, and then to be able to prepare for something like this for your mate, i've only got admiration. he will have massive, massive support here. probably a bit apprehensive. i was like this last time. i think you want to get started, you want to get going. as i said on the show, i'm marathon—fit, but probably not 100 mile—fit. as the great sally nugent told me, you don't run with your legs, you run with this. in many ways i want it to be horrible, i want it to be uncomfortable, i want it to be raining and sleeting and windy. i want it to be raining i want everything to get thrown at us that can be, because people out there are having it tough with mnd. they are fighting every top flight at the minute. we are just showing then we care. what a brilliant, brilliant image that is. did you know i was great, by the way?— that is. did you know i was great, b thewa? ., ., by the way? you can't say that about ourself! by the way? you can't say that about yourself! listen, _ by the way? you can't say that about yourself! listen, i— by the way? you can't say that about yourself! listen, i love _ by the way? you can't say that about yourself! listen, i love every- by the way? you can't say that about yourself! listen, i love every word i yourself! listen, i love every word that comes out of his mouth. he is teasinu. i that comes out of his mouth. he is teasing- i don't _ that comes out of his mouth. he is teasing. i don't think _ that comes out of his mouth. he is teasing. i don't think it _ that comes out of his mouth. he is teasing. i don't think it really - teasing. i don't think it really means that. i teasing. i don't think it really means that.— teasing. i don't think it really meansthat. ~ ., ., , , means that. i know so many people have been inspired _ means that. i know so many people have been inspired by _ means that. i know so many people have been inspired by what - means that. i know so many people have been inspired by what he - have been inspired by what he continues to do. that is something we will follow in this programme very closely. we will follow in this programme very closely-— very closely. definitely. let's go back to the _ very closely. definitely. let's go back to the breaking _ very closely. definitely. let's go back to the breaking news, - very closely. definitely. let's go| back to the breaking news, front line nhs toughening that will be required to be fully vaccinated against covid. the government is expected to make the announcement later today. expected to make the announcement later toda . �* , expected to make the announcement iatertoda . �*, ,, .,~ ., expected to make the announcement iatertoda. �*, ,, ., later today. let's speak to nick trir rle, later today. let's speak to nick triggle. our — later today. let's speak to nick triggle, our health _ later today. let's speak to nick . triggle, our health correspondent. sally was trying to get some more information out of dominic raab about an hour ago. he talked about at this point twitter speculation. it will be interesting to see how this will work logistically? it will. from what we understand the deadline _ will. from what we understand the deadline of spring will be set. that is important because nhs managers have said _ is important because nhs managers have said they wouldn't want mandatory vaccination brought in during _ mandatory vaccination brought in during the — mandatory vaccination brought in during the winter, which is expected to be _ during the winter, which is expected to be an _ during the winter, which is expected to be an incredibly difficult winter for the _ to be an incredibly difficult winter for the nhs. to be an incredibly difficult winter forthe nhs. now to be an incredibly difficult winter for the nhs. now currently, to be an incredibly difficult winter forthe nhs. now currently, 92% to be an incredibly difficult winter for the nhs. now currently, 92% of health_ for the nhs. now currently, 92% of health staff have had both doses of a covid _ health staff have had both doses of a covid vaccine, but that still leaves — a covid vaccine, but that still leaves about 100,000 staff who are not vaccinated. when you look at kind of— not vaccinated. when you look at kind of the — not vaccinated. when you look at kind of the differences between different areas, in some hospitals 20% of— different areas, in some hospitals 20% of staff are not vaccinated. in others _ 20% of staff are not vaccinated. in others it _ 20% of staff are not vaccinated. in others it is — 20% of staff are not vaccinated. in others it is only 5%. obviously the concern _ others it is only 5%. obviously the concern is — others it is only 5%. obviously the concern is that if more of the staff does _ concern is that if more of the staff does not _ concern is that if more of the staff does not come forward for thisjab, it will— does not come forward for thisjab, it will increase the number of started — it will increase the number of started -- _ it will increase the number of started —— staffing shortages in the health— started —— staffing shortages in the health service, which will cause significant problems and concerns about— significant problems and concerns about safety to patients. the other issue, about safety to patients. the other issue. which _ about safety to patients. the other issue, which we _ about safety to patients. the other issue, which we spoke _ about safety to patients. the other issue, which we spoke to - about safety to patients. the other issue, which we spoke to chris - issue, which we spoke to chris hobson about, he was talking about how some people don't know if they are front line workers or not. there is that distinction _ are front line workers or not. there is that distinction as _ are front line workers or not. there is that distinction as well, - are front line workers or not. there is that distinction as well, isn't - is that distinction as well, isn't there? — is that distinction as well, isn't there? yes. that is quite a fine line _ there? yes. that is quite a fine line you — there? yes. that is quite a fine line. you can have back—up staff, administration staff, and they would still pass— administration staff, and they would still pass through the woods. wendy vaccination — still pass through the woods. wendy vaccination programme was being rolled _ vaccination programme was being rolled out— vaccination programme was being rolled out the definition of front line staff — rolled out the definition of front line staff was actually much, much wider— line staff was actually much, much wider than — line staff was actually much, much wider than you'd expect. when you look at _ wider than you'd expect. when you look at kind — wider than you'd expect. when you look at kind of the numbers currently, there are about 100,000 vacancies— currently, there are about 100,000 vacancies in— currently, there are about 100,000 vacancies in the health service. so clearly. _ vacancies in the health service. so clearly. this— vacancies in the health service. so clearly, this has potential to kind of double — clearly, this has potential to kind of double dose vacancies. of the expectation will be that in the coming — expectation will be that in the coming months lots of staff will come _ coming months lots of staff will come forward. but talking to people who run _ come forward. but talking to people who run those vaccination programmes, they say often there is not one _ programmes, they say often there is not one individual reason why people are hesitant. and it's only through having _ are hesitant. and it's only through having individual conversation by conversation that you persuade people — conversation that you persuade people to come forward and have that vaccination _ people to come forward and have that vaccination. they say that's what's -ot vaccination. they say that's what's got to— vaccination. they say that's what's got to happen in the coming months if those _ got to happen in the coming months if those shortages in the nhs are not to— if those shortages in the nhs are not to be — if those shortages in the nhs are not to be made worse by this policy which, _ not to be made worse by this policy which, chris— not to be made worse by this policy which, chris hobson himself said to the programme earlier, it's a logical— the programme earlier, it's a logical move, you can understand the lo-ic logical move, you can understand the logic of— logical move, you can understand the logic of this, — logical move, you can understand the logic of this, but there are concerns— logic of this, but there are concerns and there are risks in introducing it. we must remember this is— introducing it. we must remember this is only— introducing it. we must remember this is only being introduced in england. — this is only being introduced in england, scotland, northern ireland orwales _ england, scotland, northern ireland orwales -- — england, scotland, northern ireland orwales. —— this england, scotland, northern ireland or wales. —— this is only introduced in england — or wales. —— this is only introduced in england. scotland, northern ireland— in england. scotland, northern ireland when wales haven't put forward — ireland when wales haven't put forward yet. let's get more reaction to that decision. we arejoined by let's get more reaction to that decision. we are joined by sarah gorton, head of health at the unison union. good morning. your reaction to this news? i know dominic raab wouldn't confirm it is actually happening but the news emerging that this will be mandatory, made mandatory, when it is announced later? ., mandatory, when it is announced later? . ., ., ., mandatory, when it is announced later? . . ., ., ., , later? yeah, we have had a few false starts on this — later? yeah, we have had a few false starts on this one _ later? yeah, we have had a few false starts on this one already. _ starts on this one already. ministers, as soon as the vaccines were _ ministers, as soon as the vaccines were available, ministers started talking _ were available, ministers started talking about leaping to the low and making _ talking about leaping to the low and making it _ talking about leaping to the low and making it mandatory. and we have been _ making it mandatory. and we have been really— making it mandatory. and we have been really big supporters of the vaccine _ been really big supporters of the vaccine programme, the trade unions that work— vaccine programme, the trade unions that work with employers, with the officials, _ that work with employers, with the officials, to get to the stage where we have _ officials, to get to the stage where we have got over 90%, as nick was 'ust we have got over 90%, as nick was just saying. — we have got over 90%, as nick was just saying, which is a really, really— just saying, which is a really, really high level of voluntary take-up _ really high level of voluntary take—up. what is going to make the difference _ take—up. what is going to make the difference between that and the fullest _ difference between that and the fullest possible recovery is understanding the data, understanding the data, understanding why people are not yet vaccinated. _ understanding why people are not yet vaccinated, whether that is actually because _ vaccinated, whether that is actually because they are declining or for some _ because they are declining or for some other reason. and understanding, having those conversations that nick was talking about _ conversations that nick was talking about. what we are really concerned about _ about. what we are really concerned about is _ about. what we are really concerned about is that once this is made mandatory, employers and officials will rely _ mandatory, employers and officials will rely on — mandatory, employers and officials will rely on the law and step down those _ will rely on the law and step down those efforts. and as we have seen through— those efforts. and as we have seen through the general booster programme, that means dropping numbers — programme, that means dropping numbers. we are concerned about this _ numbers. we are concerned about this. concerned about the tone, concerned — this. concerned about the tone, concerned about the message it sends to nhs— concerned about the message it sends to nhs staff that even if they comply— to nhs staff that even if they comply with government requests, they be _ comply with government requests, they be listened to. and concerned about _ they be listened to. and concerned about the _ they be listened to. and concerned about the impact this will have on capacity— about the impact this will have on capacity in— about the impact this will have on capacity in staffing. | about the impact this will have on capacity in staffing.— capacity in staffing. i will talk about capacity _ capacity in staffing. i will talk about capacity in _ capacity in staffing. i will talk about capacity in a _ capacity in staffing. i will talk about capacity in a moment. | capacity in staffing. i will talk - about capacity in a moment. first of all, let's address one obvious thing. are you concerned people will lose theirjobs? it’s thing. are you concerned people will lose theirjobs?— lose their 'obs? it's absolutely awful lose theirjobs? it's absolutely awful thinking _ lose theirjobs? it's absolutely awful thinking that _ lose theirjobs? it's absolutely awful thinking that we - lose theirjobs? it's absolutely awful thinking that we could i lose theirjobs? it's absolutely i awful thinking that we could lose vital health staff for these reasons. i think what is more likely. — reasons. i think what is more likely. if— reasons. i think what is more likely, if you think about the wider economy— likely, if you think about the wider economy and what's happening in certain— economy and what's happening in certain sectors, particularly retail. _ certain sectors, particularly retail, what is more likely is that those _ retail, what is more likely is that those who— retail, what is more likely is that those who are in those roles that you just — those who are in those roles that you just talked about, where people are front _ you just talked about, where people are front line but nonclinical front line, _ are front line but nonclinical front line. may — are front line but nonclinical front line, mayjust see there is better pay and — line, mayjust see there is better pay and more alternatives elsewhere. so the _ pay and more alternatives elsewhere. so the biggest risk is actually that if this— so the biggest risk is actually that if this adds to the drop in morale and the — if this adds to the drop in morale and the lack of motivation amongst mh have _ and the lack of motivation amongst mh have staff. —— nhs staff. people could _ mh have staff. —— nhs staff. people could feel— mh have staff. —— nhs staff. people could feel badly treated and just decide _ could feel badly treated and just decide to leave. could feel badly treated and 'ust decide to leavei could feel badly treated and 'ust decide to leave. what is your advice to them going _ decide to leave. what is your advice to them going to — decide to leave. what is your advice to them going to be? _ decide to leave. what is your advice to them going to be? we _ decide to leave. what is your advice to them going to be? we have - decide to leave. what is your advice j to them going to be? we have been reall , to them going to be? we have been really. really _ to them going to be? we have been really, really keen _ to them going to be? we have been really, really keen to _ to them going to be? we have been really, really keen to support - really, really keen to support efforts — really, really keen to support efforts to roll out the vaccine programme. and our goal, it is twofold — programme. and our goal, it is twofold. firstly, providing proper advice _ twofold. firstly, providing proper advice to— twofold. firstly, providing proper advice to health workers about what the issues _ advice to health workers about what the issues are. and one of the things— the issues are. and one of the things that's really difficult at the moment, talking about this today. — the moment, talking about this today. is— the moment, talking about this today, is that we haven't seen the detail— today, is that we haven't seen the detail of— today, is that we haven't seen the detail of the legislation. one of the things we will be keen to see is if there _ the things we will be keen to see is if there is— the things we will be keen to see is if there is an alternative route in there _ if there is an alternative route in there you — if there is an alternative route in there. you extensively covered the us approach to the mandatory vaccination. they provide an alternative for daily testing. we will be — alternative for daily testing. we will be looking to see the detail and things like that and what kind of legislation the government proposes to take through this. secondly, our role has very much been _ secondly, our role has very much been trying — secondly, our role has very much been trying to listen to staff, understand what their concerns are and feed _ understand what their concerns are and feed those back in, so that those _ and feed those back in, so that those who— and feed those back in, so that those who are running the communications, those who are doing what nick— communications, those who are doing what nick was talking about, having those _ what nick was talking about, having those individual conversations, can target _ those individual conversations, can target them and the concerns staff have, _ target them and the concerns staff have, so _ target them and the concerns staff have, so they can focus on where this will— have, so they can focus on where this will make the most difference. sarah _ this will make the most difference. sarah gorton, thank you. it is uuarter sarah gorton, thank you. it is quarter to _ sarah gorton, thank you. it is quarter to nine. _ sarah gorton, thank you. it is quarter to nine. let's - sarah gorton, thank you. it 3 quarter to nine. let's find out what is happening with carol. good morning.- is happening with carol. good morninu. ., , ., good morning. good morning. it is a mile start to — good morning. good morning. it is a mile start to the _ good morning. good morning. it is a mile start to the day _ good morning. good morning. it is a mile start to the day if _ good morning. good morning. it is a mile start to the day if you _ good morning. good morning. it is a mile start to the day if you have - mile start to the day if you have not ventured outside. much milder thanit not ventured outside. much milder than it was yesterday across central and eastern areas, when temperatures were close to freezing or in low single figures. today we are in double figures. we will be like this for much of the next few days. there will be some rain at times. we have got some rain this morning. a week by the front moving across southern scotland into northern england, taking its rain with it, eventually getting into north wales. we have also got some showers coming in across the outer hebrides. you can see the two fronts associated with that. the spacing in the isobars tells you we have got light winds today. the north of scotland can expect gusts of a0 to 50 mph. the showers in the north—west slipping south through the day. interspersed with sunshine. at times there will be areas of cloud. as we can further south, sunshine across northern ireland, then we move into the rain. moving slowly southwards across northern end, getting into wales, drizzle in the south—west of england. ahead of it to the cloud is going to build but not quite arriving in the southern counties, the five south and south—east, until much later. but here you mayjust catch the odd shower as you will do across the channel islands. temperatures today ranging from about nine or ten in the north to about nine or ten in the north to about 1a or 15 about nine or ten in the north to about 1a or15 in about nine or ten in the north to about 1a or 15 in the south. through this evening and overnight the weather front moves slowly south, taking its cloud and rain with it, hill fog associated with this. a few showers in the north and west. under clear skies across the north—east it will be cult enough in sheltered plans for a touch of frost. that does mean tomorrow morning we wake up does mean tomorrow morning we wake up to blue skies and sunshine. still there will be showers crossing scotland, northern ireland and northern england, with a lot of dry weather too. meanwhile, northern england, with a lot of dry weathertoo. meanwhile, in the northern england, with a lot of dry weather too. meanwhile, in the south of thing that we have got our weather front producing cloud and spots of rain. showers getting in across parts of wales, light winds except for the far north of scotland, were once again you will have gusts of a0 to 50 mph. temperatures nine to 15 degrees. a couple of degrees above average for the time of the year. into thursday, we still have a weak weather front across parts of scotland producing showers. at times there will be areas of cloud, but equally, some sunshine as we have a ridge of high pressure across us. it will be replaced by an area of low pressure coming in from the atlantic. the timing and tracking of this is still open to question, but we are expecting some rain and strengthening wind in the west later on thursday to cross us on friday. if you have got outdoor plants, keep watching. thank you, carol. speak to you later. from playing the eccentric uncle bryn in gavin and stacey, to hosting panel shows such as would i lie to you, rob brydon has been making us laugh for decades. but his talents don'tjust lie in comedy — he's also an accomplished singer. let's take a listen. # look for the bare necessities, this simple bare necessities. # forget about your worries and your strife. # the bare necessities, old mother nature's recipes, that brings the bare necessities of life. # islands in the stream, that is what we are. # no one in between, how can we be wrong? # sale away with me, to another world. # and we will rely on each other. # and we will rely on each other. # you can sing it with a cry in your voice. as # before you know it starts feeling good. you've simply got no choice. # you simply got no choice. rob joins us now to discuss his new tour, which blends together comedy and music. watching that, that was a nervous moment? , ., ., ., , ., moment? neil diamond. i did a show with him and — moment? neil diamond. i did a show with him and interviewed _ moment? neil diamond. i did a show with him and interviewed him - moment? neil diamond. i did a show with him and interviewed him first, i with him and interviewed him first, which _ with him and interviewed him first, which was — with him and interviewed him first, which was amazing. when we were doing _ which was amazing. when we were doing the _ which was amazing. when we were doing the interview i started telling — doing the interview i started telling him about one of his songs, and i_ telling him about one of his songs, and i started doing a little bit of it on— and i started doing a little bit of it on the — and i started doing a little bit of it on the guitar. and he said, we should _ it on the guitar. and he said, we should do— it on the guitar. and he said, we should do that at the palladium. and i thought. _ should do that at the palladium. and i thought, well, should do that at the palladium. and ithought, well, ok. because he's guite _ ithought, well, ok. because he's quite the — ithought, well, ok. because he's quite the alpha male. so we come over and _ quite the alpha male. so we come over and we — quite the alpha male. so we come overand we are quite the alpha male. so we come over and we are going to do that. and he _ over and we are going to do that. and he said. _ over and we are going to do that. and he said, you should play the guitar~ _ and he said, you should play the guitar~ do — and he said, you should play the uuitar. ,, i and he said, you should play the guitar-- i can _ and he said, you should play the guitar-- i can play - and he said, you should play the guitar.- i can play the i guitar. do you? i can play the uuitar guitar. do you? i can play the guitar but— guitar. do you? i can play the guitar but i — guitar. do you? i can play the guitar but i can't _ guitar. do you? i can play the guitar but i can't play - guitar. do you? i can play the guitar but i can't play the - guitar. do you? i can play the i guitar but i can't play the guitar, you know? — guitar but i can't play the guitar, you know? iwas guitar but i can't play the guitar, you know? i was terrified. and the drummer, — you know? i was terrified. and the drummer, his drummer, just passed away. _ drummer, his drummer, just passed away. a _ drummer, his drummer, just passed away, a guy— drummer, his drummer, just passed away, a guy called ronnie todt, who was elvis's _ away, a guy called ronnie todt, who was elvis's drummer until he died. i have _ was elvis's drummer until he died. i have got— was elvis's drummer until he died. i have got him — was elvis's drummer until he died. i have got him behind me and i was having _ have got him behind me and i was having to — have got him behind me and i was having to give them directions in the run — having to give them directions in the run up — having to give them directions in the run up to that song, telling them _ the run up to that song, telling them what i wanted them to do. he. looks them what i wanted them to do. looks like he them what i wanted them to do. he: looks like he loves you. arm around the shoulder. he looks like he loves you. arm around the shoulder-— the shoulder. he got on well. his wife, the shoulder. he got on well. his wife. who — the shoulder. he got on well. his wife. who is _ the shoulder. he got on well. his wife, who is his _ the shoulder. he got on well. his wife, who is his manager, - the shoulder. he got on well. his wife, who is his manager, she i the shoulder. he got on well. his. wife, who is his manager, she said during _ wife, who is his manager, she said during the — wife, who is his manager, she said during the interview, you guys get along _ during the interview, you guys get along really well. trust me, that is not always— along really well. trust me, that is not always the case.— along really well. trust me, that is not always the case. you've got this amazin: not always the case. you've got this amazing show _ not always the case. you've got this amazing show you _ not always the case. you've got this amazing show you are _ not always the case. you've got this amazing show you are doing - not always the case. you've got this amazing show you are doing at - not always the case. you've got this amazing show you are doing at the l amazing show you are doing at the minute. it amazing show you are doing at the minute. ., , �* ., minute. it doesn't involve neil diamond- _ minute. it doesn't involve neil diamond- he _ minute. it doesn't involve neil diamond. he is _ minute. it doesn't involve neil diamond. he is not _ minute. it doesn't involve neil diamond. he is not there. - minute. it doesn't involve neil diamond. he is not there. i. minute. it doesn't involve neil. diamond. he is not there. i don't want _ diamond. he is not there. idon't want to— diamond. he is not there. i don't want to misrepresent this. you are sinrain want to misrepresent this. you are singing and — want to misrepresent this. you are singing and performing. _ want to misrepresent this. you are singing and performing. you - want to misrepresent this. you are singing and performing. you are i want to misrepresent this. you are i singing and performing. you are like a quadruple threat, aren't you? threat is a good word. it is an old—fashioned evening of entertainment, basically, telling my life story— entertainment, basically, telling my life story with songs to illustrate stuff _ life story with songs to illustrate stuff. starting off with when i was at school — stuff. starting off with when i was at school in porthcawl comprehensive, where i met ruth jones _ comprehensive, where i met ruth jones we — comprehensive, where i met ruth jones. we were kids and did guys and dolls and _ jones. we were kids and did guys and dolls and carousel, to songs i have song _ dolls and carousel, to songs i have song on _ dolls and carousel, to songs i have song on the — dolls and carousel, to songs i have song on the radio, in gavin and stacey. — song on the radio, in gavin and stacey, stuff like that. neil diamond and a few things with tom jones _ diamond and a few things with tom jones i_ diamond and a few things with tom jones. i talk about that. again, how intimidating it is to sing with people — intimidating it is to sing with people who are truly great. that's incredible- _ people who are truly great. that's incredible. you _ people who are truly great. that's incredible. you are _ people who are truly great. that's incredible. you are back - people who are truly great. that's incredible. you are back on - people who are truly great. that's incredible. you are back on the i incredible. you are back on the road. you have not been on the road that long because you had this massive break, 18 months of being stuck at home. we massive break, 18 months of being stuck at home.— stuck at home. we were doing the tour and we _ stuck at home. we were doing the tour and we literally _ stuck at home. we were doing the tour and we literally stopped - stuck at home. we were doing the tour and we literally stopped it i tour and we literally stopped it during — tour and we literally stopped it during the sound check at one of the venues _ during the sound check at one of the venues because that was when the prime _ venues because that was when the prime minister did his press conference where he helpfully said, we recommend you don't go to the theatre _ we recommend you don't go to the theatre. we are not saying you can't. — theatre. we are not saying you can't. but _ theatre. we are not saying you can't, but we recommended. i said, right. _ can't, but we recommended. i said, right, i_ can't, but we recommended. i said, right, ican't— can't, but we recommended. i said, right, i can't have people coming to my right, ican't have people coming to my shock— right, i can't have people coming to my shock and getting ill, so we stopped — my shock and getting ill, so we stopped it. now we are back out, around _ stopped it. now we are back out, around the — stopped it. now we are back out, around the country. i was in warrington last night, we are going to southampton. next week, the london _ to southampton. next week, the london palladium, which is where the clip with— london palladium, which is where the clip with neil diamond was. two nights— clip with neil diamond was. two nights there. which is, for someone like me. _ nights there. which is, for someone like me, that is the place. lien; like me, that is the place. very excitina. like me, that is the place. very exciting- i— like me, that is the place. very exciting. i love _ like me, that is the place. very exciting. i love the _ like me, that is the place. very exciting. i love the way - like me, that is the place. very exciting. i love the way you - like me, that is the place. , exciting. i love the way you get to all the venues, warrington, the london palladium...!_ all the venues, warrington, the london palladium...! listen, in many wa s london palladium...! listen, in many ways warrington _ london palladium...! listen, in many ways warrington is _ london palladium...! listen, in many ways warrington is a _ london palladium...! listen, in many ways warrington is a better _ london palladium...! listen, in many ways warrington is a better venue i ways warrington is a better venue than the _ ways warrington is a better venue than the palladium, because it's just. _ than the palladium, because it's just. it _ than the palladium, because it's just. it is — than the palladium, because it's just. it is a — than the palladium, because it's just, it is a beautiful room, it is an old—fashioned oblong room. and you want— an old—fashioned oblong room. and you want that for comedy. you want hard surfaces, the laughs bounce, the audience. the palladium is very special, _ the audience. the palladium is very special, it— the audience. the palladium is very special, it is— the audience. the palladium is very special, it is the london palladium. but i _ special, it is the london palladium. but i love _ special, it is the london palladium. but i love places like saint georges hall in _ but i love places like saint georges hall in blackburn. there is someone in bradford — hall in blackburn. there is someone in bradford. those places for me will always— in bradford. those places for me will always be my first choice. once thins will always be my first choice. once things started _ will always be my first choice. once things started to _ will always be my first choice. once things started to reopen, _ will always be my first choice. cute: things started to reopen, and will always be my first choice. (mae: things started to reopen, and we were beginning to talk to those in the theatre and doing gigs, the smile on theirfaces the theatre and doing gigs, the smile on their faces when they talk about being back in front of a crowd, that must be so nice to get that reaction back after not having it for a while? the that reaction back after not having it for a while?— it for a while? the first night of the store now _ it for a while? the first night of the store now was _ it for a while? the first night of the store now was properly - the store now was properly emotional. i really had to stop myself, — emotional. i really had to stop myself, because it's what people like me. — myself, because it's what people like me. it — myself, because it's what people like me, it is what we do. we are in this bizarre — like me, it is what we do. we are in this bizarre situation where we couldn't— this bizarre situation where we couldn't do it. in the past it's always— couldn't do it. in the past it's always been, if you can't sell the tickets. — always been, if you can't sell the tickets, that is the only reason why you can't— tickets, that is the only reason why you can't do— tickets, that is the only reason why you can't do it, but now it was this other— you can't do it, but now it was this other thing — you can't do it, but now it was this other thing. and i you can't do it, but now it was this otherthing. and i know, because again— otherthing. and i know, because again people i meet are also audiences, we also go to shows, and i audiences, we also go to shows, and l have _ audiences, we also go to shows, and l have been— audiences, we also go to shows, and i have been to quite a few recently. and you _ i have been to quite a few recently. and you can — i have been to quite a few recently. and you can sense it's all at a higher— and you can sense it's all at a higher level, the audiences are getting — higher level, the audiences are getting more out of it and the performance. they are just loving being _ performance. they are just loving being on — performance. they are just loving being on stage. find performance. they are 'ust loving being on stagah being on stage. and watch as the show change _ being on stage. and watch as the show change from _ being on stage. and watch as the show change from stage -- - being on stage. and watch as the show change from stage -- howl being on stage. and watch as the - show change from stage -- how much show change from stage —— how much does the show change from place to place? j does the show change from place to lace? ., ~' ., ., . ., ., place? i talk to the audience a lot, ialwa s place? i talk to the audience a lot, i always have _ place? i talk to the audience a lot, i always have done. _ place? i talk to the audience a lot, i always have done. in _ place? i talk to the audience a lot, i always have done. in this - place? i talk to the audience a lot, i always have done. in this show. place? i talk to the audience a lot, | i always have done. in this show we make _ i always have done. in this show we make up— i always have done. in this show we make up a — i always have done. in this show we make up a son, something i have always— make up a son, something i have always done with utah. now it is the whole _ always done with utah. now it is the whole band. we take requests. iwas talk to— whole band. we take requests. iwas talk to the _ whole band. we take requests. iwas talk to the audience. always find stuff _ talk to the audience. always find stuff out — talk to the audience. always find stuff out about them. in that sense it does— stuff out about them. in that sense it does change every night. the backbone — it does change every night. the backbone of the show is the same. but it— backbone of the show is the same. but it is— backbone of the show is the same. but it is different. they will be different — but it is different. they will be different things happening. i�*m different things happening. i'm interested different things happening. il�*tii interested in what you said about being nervous playing with neil diamond and tom jones, because you strike me as someone who is very confident. do you ever get nervous about performing, or do you love that moment when you walk out on stage, or do you think, let's do this? i stage, or do you think, let's do this? ., ., ., , this? i love it and i always fight any nervousness _ this? i love it and i always fight any nervousness that _ this? i love it and i always fight any nervousness that would i this? i love it and i always fight any nervousness that would be | any nervousness that would be debilitating. but, yes, last night turned _ debilitating. but, yes, last night turned out to be a great night. i'd had three — turned out to be a great night. i'd had three weeks off for half term. it is natural— had three weeks off for half term. it is natural to feel nervous. i don't — it is natural to feel nervous. i don't think— it is natural to feel nervous. i don't think that ever goes away but i do think— don't think that ever goes away but i do think you learn how to cope with— i do think you learn how to cope with it _ i do think you learn how to cope with it and — i do think you learn how to cope with it and another part of your mind _ with it and another part of your mind says. _ with it and another part of your mind says, come on, you have done this before — mind says, come on, you have done this before. but you never know. you never— this before. but you never know. you never know — this before. but you never know. you never know. you can have a run of great _ never know. you can have a run of great shows — never know. you can have a run of great shows and you go out suddenly and you _ great shows and you go out suddenly and you think, this is a bit different. _ and you think, this is a bit different, and every audience is different. — different, and every audience is different, you have to get a feel for them, — different, you have to get a feel for them, you alter what you do a little _ for them, you alter what you do a little bit — for them, you alter what you do a little bit so— for them, you alter what you do a little bit. so for the london palladium, that is very different to last night — palladium, that is very different to last night. last night they were like that — last night. last night they were like that. the palladium is more like that. the palladium is more like that— like that. the palladium is more like that and more like that. so you've — like that and more like that. so you've got _ like that and more like that. so you've got to work that room a little _ you've got to work that room a little bit — you've got to work that room a little bit differently. and then, 'ust little bit differently. and then, just the — little bit differently. and then, just the nature of the audience changes — just the nature of the audience changes. so you are always... you know _ changes. so you are always... you know in— changes. so you are always... you know in sherlock where benedict cumberbatch...? it's like that. that bit is _ cumberbatch...? it's like that. that bit is a _ cumberbatch...? it's like that. that bit is a bit _ cumberbatch...? it's like that. that bit is a bit quiet, may be a need to -ive bit is a bit quiet, may be a need to give them — bit is a bit quiet, may be a need to give them more attention. it's like spinning _ give them more attention. it's like spinning plates. give them more attention. it's like spinning plates-— spinning plates. when you say you firht spinning plates. when you say you fight debilitating _ spinning plates. when you say you fight debilitating knives, _ spinning plates. when you say you fight debilitating knives, how - spinning plates. when you say you fight debilitating knives, how do i fight debilitating knives, how do you do that? what are the words you say to yourself in your head? mellie say to yourself in your head? well, ou learn say to yourself in your head? well, you learn techniques _ say to yourself in your head? well, you learn techniques whether - say to yourself in your head? well, you learn techniques whether it is 'ust you learn techniques whether it is just simple things like breathing through— just simple things like breathing through your nose. if you are nervous, _ through your nose. if you are nervous, if— through your nose. if you are nervous, if you are anxious, it is going _ nervous, if you are anxious, it is going to — nervous, if you are anxious, it is going to get _ nervous, if you are anxious, it is going to get in the way of your voice — going to get in the way of your voice. ,, . . going to get in the way of your voice. ,, ., ., ., ., ., voice. shall we all do that now? let's do some _ voice. shall we all do that now? let's do some mindfulness! - voice. shall we all do that now? j let's do some mindfulness! you voice. shall we all do that now? - let's do some mindfulness! you have to do— let's do some mindfulness! you have to do that _ let's do some mindfulness! you have to do that. and you just have to say. _ to do that. and you just have to say, on. — to do that. and you just have to say, on, let's do it. the to do that. and you 'ust have to say, on, let's do it._ say, on, let's do it. the other thin is say, on, let's do it. the other thing is you — say, on, let's do it. the other thing is you have _ say, on, let's do it. the other thing is you have tremendousj say, on, let's do it. the other i thing is you have tremendous fun say, on, let's do it. the other - thing is you have tremendous fun in yourjob doing it. i was saying to sally beforehand one of the most fun things i have done on tv is come on would i lie to you. it is interesting you talk about mindfulness, one of the lies lee mack had to make up that day was we went on a silent retreat. when you get a job like that, it is so much fun for you to be part of that with those two guys and the guests. you make it fun for everyone on it but it is a brilliant day, isn't it? i am the luckiest guy in the world because — am the luckiest guy in the world because that is such a great show to do. because that is such a great show to do david _ because that is such a great show to do. david handley and myself genuinely get on because it is not always— genuinely get on because it is not always the — genuinely get on because it is not always the way. you can watch a tv show _ always the way. you can watch a tv show and _ always the way. you can watch a tv show and think, they are having the time of— show and think, they are having the time of their lives, it's no great secret— time of their lives, it's no great secret that _ time of their lives, it's no great secret that you two can't stand the sight _ secret that you two can't stand the sight of _ secret that you two can't stand the sight of each other. somehow you make _ sight of each other. somehow you make it _ sight of each other. somehow you make it work on camera. we get on welt _ make it work on camera. we get on welt we _ make it work on camera. we get on welt we see — make it work on camera. we get on well. we see each other socially. when _ well. we see each other socially. when people come on the show, they have a _ when people come on the show, they have a good _ when people come on the show, they have a good time. i remember pettet's— have a good time. i remember pellet's sports bag. that was true. it was _ pellet's sports bag. that was true. it was such— pellet's sports bag. that was true. it was such a ridiculous story that nobody believed. i remember having a meal before the show. i walked into the green room and the three of you were eating meat balls and having a chat. that is the magic of the programme. chat. that is the magic of the programme-— chat. that is the magic of the programme. chat. that is the magic of the rorramme. ., ~ ., , programme. david and i like to help lee with programme. david and i like to help tee with the — programme. david and i like to help lee with the cutlery. _ programme. david and i like to help lee with the cutlery. he _ programme. david and i like to help lee with the cutlery. he is - programme. david and i like to help lee with the cutlery. he is getting l lee with the cutlery. he is getting a lot better. it is still new for him — a lot better. it is still new for him. ., , ., ., ., rob brydon's show is called a night of songs & laughter, and is touring now. you're watching bbc breakfast. it's 8:59. good morning, welcome to bbc news. i'm victoria derbyshire — here are your headlines. the government's set to announce that all front line nhs staff in england will have to be fully vaccinated against covid—19 by next spring. it is good news in terms of being able to ensure that we protect staff, patients and visitors from nhs members of staff having infection. if you work in the nhs, what's your reaction? 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