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you guys have your ideas on you? i you guys have your ideas on you? [ .ave you guys have your ideas on you? gaveit you guys have your ideas on you? gave it to you guys have your ideas on you? i gave it to him, man. he _ you guys have your ideas on you? i gave it to him, man. he has - you guys have your ideas on you? i gave it to him, man. he has her. you guys have your ideas on you? i | gave it to him, man. he has her id? i cive gave it to him, man. he has her id? i give him — gave it to him, man. he has her id? i give him my _ gave it to him, man. he has her id? i give him my id... _ gave it to him, man. he has her id? i give him my id... just— gave it to him, man. he has her id? i give him my id... just stay - gave it to him, man. he has her id? i give him my id... just stay here. i i give him my id... just stay here. it wasn't us- _ i give him my id... just stay here. it wasn't us. just _ i give him my id... just stay here. it wasn't us. just stand _ i give him my id... just stay here. it wasn't us. just stand from - i give him my id... just stay here. it wasn't us. just stand from the l it wasn't us. just stand from the back, it wasn't us. just stand from the back. 0k? _ it wasn't us. just stand from the back. 0k? -- — it wasn't us. just stand from the back, 0k? -- stay _ it wasn't us. just stand from the back, 0k? -- stay further- it wasn't us. just stand from the back, 0k? -- stay further back, | it wasn't us. just stand from the - back, 0k? -- stay further back, 0k? back, 0k? —— stay further back, 0k? what— back, 0k? —— stay further back, 0k? what is— back, 0k? —— stay further back, 0k? what is your— back, 0k? —— stay further back, 0k? what is your name? what is yours? what _ what is your name? what is yours? what is _ what is your name? what is yours? what is it? — what is your name? what is yours? what is it? william ricardo. ricardo? _ what is it? william ricardo. ricardo? all right. asked mr adam about me... 0k we will fiaure it asked mr adam about me... 0k we will figure it out- — they gave me some too, i toured theirm _ they gave me some too, i toured theirm up~ — they gave me some too, ! toured their... up. gave— they gave me some too, i toured their... up. gave you _ they gave me some too, i toured their... up. gave you what? - they gave me some too, i toured l their... up. gave you what? some fake _ their... up. gave you what? some fake money, — their... up. gave you what? some fake money, i_ their... up. gave you what? some fake money, i don't _ their... up. gave you what? some fake money, i don't know, - their... up. gave you what? somel fake money, i don't know, whoever this coguette, _ fake money, i don't know, whoever this coquette, -- _ fake money, idon't know, whoever this coquette, —— this— fake money, i don't know, whoever this coquette, —— this coquette... l this coquette, —— this coquette... he came — this coquette, —— this coquette... he came out _ this coquette, —— this coquette... he came out and _ this coquette, —— this coquette... he came out and started - this coquette, —— this coquette... he came out and started telling l this coquette, —— this coquette... i he came out and started telling that dude and _ he came out and started telling that dude and i_ he came out and started telling that dude and i told _ he came out and started telling that dude and i told him, _ he came out and started telling that dude and i told him, do _ he came out and started telling that dude and i told him, do told - he came out and started telling that dude and i told him, do told him - he came out and started telling that| dude and i told him, do told him and he told _ dude and i told him, do told him and he told them — dude and i told him, do told him and he told them come _ dude and i told him, do told him and he told them come back— dude and i told him, do told him and he told them come back in— dude and i told him, do told him and he told them come back in the - dude and i told him, do told him and he told them come back in the car. he told them come back in the car and come — he told them come back in the car and come back— he told them come back in the car and come back in— he told them come back in the car and come back in the _ he told them come back in the car and come back in the store, - he told them come back in the car and come back in the store, but . he told them come back in the carl and come back in the store, but he was tatkihgm _ and come back in the store, but he was tatkihgm he— and come back in the store, but he was talking- - -_ and come back in the store, but he was talking... he was like why what i have fake — was talking... he was like why what i have fake money? _ was talking... he was like why what i have fake money? where - was talking... he was like why what i have fake money? where when . was talking... he was like why what i have fake money? where when i l was talking... he was like why what l i have fake money? where when i get fake money from? —— where would i get... indistinct he over there fighting with the law — he over there fighting with the law... . . ., he over there fighting with the law... ., ., . he over there fighting with the law... ricardo how are you related to flo d? law... ricardo how are you related to floyd? he _ law... ricardo how are you related to floyd? he used _ law... ricardo how are you related to floyd? he used to _ law... ricardo how are you related to floyd? he used to do _ law... ricardo how are you related to floyd? he used to do security i to floyd? he used to do security work at the _ to floyd? he used to do security work at the salvation _ to floyd? he used to do security work at the salvation army, - to floyd? he used to do security. work at the salvation army, man. to floyd? he used to do security - work at the salvation army, man. how do ou work at the salvation army, man. how do you know — work at the salvation army, man. how do you know him? _ work at the salvation army, man. how do you know him? i _ work at the salvation army, man. how do you know him? i am _ work at the salvation army, man. how do you know him? i am telling - work at the salvation army, man. how do you know him? i am telling you - do you know him? i am telling you how. do you know him? i am telling you how- how — do you know him? i am telling you how- how are _ do you know him? i am telling you how. how are you _ do you know him? i am telling you how. how are you guys _ do you know him? i am telling you how. how are you guys together? | do you know him? i am telling you i how. how are you guys together? we were getting — how. how are you guys together? we were getting a _ how. how are you guys together? we were getting a rag- — how. how are you guys together? we were getting a rag. no, _ how. how are you guys together? we were getting a rag. no, i _ how. how are you guys together? we were getting a rag. no, i have - how. how are you guys together? we were getting a rag. no, i have seen l were getting a rag. no, i have seen him in the store, _ were getting a rag. no, i have seen him in the store, he _ were getting a rag. no, i have seen him in the store, he is _ were getting a rag. no, i have seen him in the store, he is my - were getting a rag. no, i have seen him in the store, he is my ex. - were getting a rag. no, i have seen him in the store, he is my ex. did l him in the store, he is my ex. did ou not him in the store, he is my ex. did you not know him but you say he is with you? — you not know him but you say he is with you? he — you not know him but you say he is with ou? . . you not know him but you say he is with ou? . , . with you? he was getting a ride with him and he told _ with you? he was getting a ride with him and he told me _ with you? he was getting a ride with him and he told me to _ with you? he was getting a ride with him and he told me to come - with you? he was getting a ride with him and he told me to come on - with you? he was getting a ride with him and he told me to come on but| with you? he was getting a ride with l him and he told me to come on but he would give me a ride. uk. him and he told me to come on but he would give me a ride.— would give me a ride. 0k, 'ust stay ut that. would give me a ride. 0k, 'ust stay put that. i— would give me a ride. 0k, 'ust stay put that. i don't * would give me a ride. 0k, 'ust stay put that. i don't need _ would give me a ride. 0k, just stay put that. i don't need him, - would give me a ride. 0k, just stay put that. i don't need him, i - would give me a ride. 0k, just stay put that. i don't need him, i got. would give me a ride. 0k, just stay put that. i don't need him, i got a l put that. i don't need him, i got a ride. is put that. i don't need him, i got a ride- is this _ put that. i don't need him, i got a ride. is this our _ put that. i don't need him, i got a ride. is this our ride _ put that. i don't need him, i got a ride. is this our ride here? - put that. i don't need him, i got a ride. is this our ride here? just i ride. is this our ride here? just stay put. _ ride. is this our ride here? just stay put. all — ride. is this our ride here? just stay put, all right? _ ride. is this our ride here? just stay put, all right? yeah i ride. is this our ride here? just i stay put, all right? yeah because he was fighting. — stay put, all right? yeah because he was fighting. he _ stay put, all right? yeah because he was fighting, he is _ stay put, all right? yeah because he was fighting, he is over _ stay put, all right? yeah because he was fighting, he is over there - was fighting, he is over there fighting _ was fighting, he is over there fighting he— was fighting, he is over there fi i htini. . was fighting, he is over there fiihitin. . .,~ was fighting, he is over there fiihitin. . . ~ ., fighting. he is making it more difficult. he — fighting. he is making it more difficult. he is _ fighting. he is making it more difficult. he is making - fighting. he is making it more difficult. he is making it i fighting. he is making it more difficult. he is making it more difficult — difficult. he is making it more difficult. he is making it more difficult. . . difficult. he is making it more difficult. . , ., difficult. he is making it more difficult. . , . . , , difficult. he is making it more difficult. . , . difficult. he was falling asleep and when he woke _ difficult. he was falling asleep and when he woke up _ difficult. he was falling asleep and when he woke up they _ difficult. he was falling asleep and when he woke up they were... i i had my hands showing... officer did ou i had my hands showing... officer did you see _ i had my hands showing... officer did you see the _ i had my hands showing. .. officer did you see the individual- i had my hands showing... officer did you see the individual on i i had my hands showing... officer did you see the individual on the i did you see the individual on the left—hand walking by? yes. you had no interaction with her at this point? you would agree that this was a 123 and i7 point? you would agree that this was a 123 and 17 z on your body can footage? a 123 and 17 2 on your body can footaie? . a 123 and 17 2 on your body can footage ?- yet _ a 123 and 17 2 on your body can footage?- yet i _ a 123 and 17 2 on your body can footage?- yet i had - a 123 and 17 z on your body can footage? yes. yet i had my hands showini footage? yes. yet i had my hands showing though. _ footage? yes. yet i had my hands showing though. who _ footage? yes. yet i had my hands showing though. who is _ footage? yes. yet i had my hands showing though. who is adam? i | footage? yes. yet i had my hands i showing though. who is adam? i was ieittin a showing though. who is adam? i was getting a laptop _ showing though. who is adam? i was getting a laptop and _ showing though. who is adam? i was getting a laptop and he _ showing though. who is adam? i was getting a laptop and he gave - showing though. who is adam? i was getting a laptop and he gave me i showing though. who is adam? i was getting a laptop and he gave me my i getting a laptop and he gave me my phonem _ getting a laptop and he gave me my phonem you — getting a laptop and he gave me my phone... you can— getting a laptop and he gave me my phone... you can come _ getting a laptop and he gave me my phone... you can come in— getting a laptop and he gave me my phone... you can come in there i getting a laptop and he gave me my phone... you can come in there and talk phone... you can come in there and taik to— phone... you can come in there and taik to him — phone... you can come in there and talk to him-— phone... you can come in there and talk to him._ you - phone... you can come in there and talk to him._ you might i phone... you can come in there and talk to him._ you might if| talk to him. ok, sure. you might if i iet m talk to him. ok, sure. you might if i get my little _ talk to him. ok, sure. you might if i get my little pass? _ talk to him. ok, sure. you might if i get my little pass? where - talk to him. ok, sure. you might if i get my little pass? where is i talk to him. ok, sure. you might if i get my little pass? where is it? i i get my little pass? where is it? ok, io i get my little pass? where is it? ok. go ahead- — i get my little pass? where is it? ok, go ahead. make _ i get my little pass? where is it? ok, go ahead. make it _ i get my little pass? where is it? ok, go ahead. make it quick. i i get my little pass? where is it? | ok, go ahead. make it quick. face 0k, go ahead. make it quick. face me. ok, go ahead. make it quick. face me. . . ok, go ahead. make it quick. face me-- getting _ ok, go ahead. make it quick. face me-- getting in _ ok, go ahead. make it quick. face me.- getting in trouble i ok, go ahead. make it quick. face me.- getting in trouble for| me. yes sir. getting in trouble for nothini , me. yes sir. getting in trouble for nothing. i — me. yes sir. getting in trouble for nothing, i didn't _ me. yes sir. getting in trouble for nothing, i didn't do... _ me. yes sir. getting in trouble for nothing, i didn't do... that's i me. yes sir. getting in trouble for nothing, i didn't do... that's ok, | nothing, i didn't do... that's ok, ou nothing, i didn't do... that's ok, you guys- -- _ nothing, i didn't do... that's ok, you guys- -- and _ nothing, i didn't do. .. that's ok, you guys... and after— nothing, i didn't do. .. that's ok, you guys... and after all- nothing, i didn't do... that's ok, you guys... and after all this i nothing, i didn't do... that's ok, you guys... and after all this is i you guys... and after all this is suhtiei~~ _ you guys... and after all this is subtle...-_ subtle,... all this is a set of? don't you _ subtle,... all this is a set of? don't you hear _ subtle,... all this is a set of? don't you hear your _ subtle,... all this is a set of? don't you hear your friend i subtle,... all this is a set of? i don't you hear your friend yelling over there? don't you hear your friend yelling overthere? i can don't you hear your friend yelling over there? i can hear him yeiiing~~ _ over there? i can hear him yelling... i'm waiting for my partners _ yelling... i'm waiting for my partners i_ yelling... i'm waiting for my partners. i will talk to my partners and see _ partners. i will talk to my partners and see what's up. he partners. i will talk to my partners and see what's up.— partners. i will talk to my partners and see what's up. he said he knew him to so if— and see what's up. he said he knew him to so if you _ and see what's up. he said he knew him to so if you knew— and see what's up. he said he knew him to so if you knew him,... i and see what's up. he said he knew him to so if you knew him,... you i him to so if you knew him,... you know floyd? _ him to so if you knew him,... you know floyd? i _ him to so if you knew him,... you know floyd? i know _ him to so if you knew him,... you know floyd? i know the _ him to so if you knew him,... you know floyd? i know the people i him to so if you knew him,... you know floyd? i know the people in | him to so if you knew him,... you i know floyd? i know the people in the store very well- _ know floyd? i know the people in the store very well. that's _ know floyd? i know the people in the store very well. that's good. - officer look right here... that's it, ricardo. just the door. all that's it, ricardo. just the door. aii right? — that's it, ricardo. just the door. all right? no one has come close to us. all right? no one has come close to us so— all right? no one has come close to us so right — all right? no one has come close to us. so right now we only have nobody has come _ us. so right now we only have nobody has come close to us so we are good with the _ has come close to us so we are good with the masks. oh, has come close to us so we are good with the masks-— with the masks. oh, he called her. did he call— with the masks. oh, he called her. did he call her? _ with the masks. oh, he called her. did he call her? did _ with the masks. oh, he called her. did he call her? did floyd - with the masks. oh, he called her. did he call her? did floyd call- with the masks. oh, he called her. i did he call her? did floyd call her? is it a _ did he call her? did floyd call her? is it a white — did he call her? did floyd call her? is it a white girl? _ did he call her? did floyd call her? is it a white girl?— is it a white girl? yeah, right here. is it a white girl? yeah, right here- stay — is it a white girl? yeah, right here. stay put _ is it a white girl? yeah, right here. stay put guys, - is it a white girl? yeah, right here. stay put guys, all- is it a white girl? yeah, right. here. stay put guys, all right? is it a white girl? yeah, right i here. stay put guys, all right? you don't _ here. stay put guys, all right? you don't want — here. stay put guys, all right? you don't want to be involved in that. shouting just stay here, all right? they're takini just stay here, all right? they're taking pictures _ just stay here, all right? they're taking pictures over— just stay here, all right? they're taking pictures over there. i just stay here, all right? they're taking pictures over there. -- i just stay here, all right? they're i taking pictures over there. -- just taking pictures over there. -- 'ust stay here. — taking pictures over there. -- 'ust stay here. aufi taking pictures over there. -- 'ust stay here, all right? i taking pictures over there. -- just stay here, all right? everybody i stay here, all right? everybody recordini stay here, all right? everybody recording and... _ stay here, all right? everybody recording and... expletive i recording and... expletive i don't know, _ recording and... expletive i don't know, he _ recording and... expletive i don't know, he got... i indistinct stay here until my partners in them are done over there, we will figure things out, all right.— things out, all right. right now we are grabbing _ things out, all right. right now we are grabbing an — things out, all right. right now we are grabbing an ambulance - things out, all right. right now we are grabbing an ambulance for i things out, all right. right now we i are grabbing an ambulance for floyd, 0k? he— are grabbing an ambulance for floyd, ok? he might have hurt himself. they hurt him?! he — ok? he might have hurt himself. they hurt him?! he might— ok? he might have hurt himself. they hurt him?! he might have _ ok? he might have hurt himself. they hurt him?! he might have hurt - hurt him?! he might have hurt himself, hurt him?! he might have hurt himself. all— hurt him?! he might have hurt himself, all right? _ hurt him?! he might have hurt himself, all right? who - hurt him?! he might have hurt| himself, all right? who knows. hurt him?! he might have hurt i himself, all right? who knows. they have an ambulance _ himself, all right? who knows. he have an ambulance here himself, all right? who knows. tu3:1 have an ambulance here and everything. i just see what everything. can ijust see what y'all did to him? he on the ground and everything! 5m? y'all did to him? he on the ground and everything!— y'all did to him? he on the ground and everything! stay over here, 0k. he's on the — and everything! stay over here, 0k. he's on the ground? _ and everything! stay over here, 0k. he's on the ground? yes. _ and everything! stay over here, 0k. he's on the ground? yes. where? l he's on the ground? yes. where? riuht he's on the ground? yes. where? right here- _ he's on the ground? yes. where? right here. he's _ he's on the ground? yes. where? right here. he'sjust _ he's on the ground? yes. where? right here. he'sjust talking - he's on the ground? yes. where? right here. he'sjust talking to . right here. he's just talking to some kid... show wanda. —— showanda. what was that? _ show wanda. —— showanda. what was that? just— show wanda. —— showanda. what was that? just stay put, we will figure it out— that? just stay put, we will figure it out 0k — that? just stay put, we will figure it out 0k ricardo? i don't want to -ive it out 0k ricardo? i don't want to give you — it out 0k ricardo? i don't want to give you guys any problems. why is he going _ give you guys any problems. why is he going to — give you guys any problems. why is he going to the hospital? 0h, give you guys any problems. why is he going to the hospital? oh, man... you're _ he going to the hospital? oh, man... you're not _ he going to the hospital? oh, man... you're not helping. what's my partners — you're not helping. what's my partners get over here, they can explain — partners get over here, they can explain to— partners get over here, they can explain to you guys, all right? -- wh is explain to you guys, all right? -- why is he — explain to you guys, all right? 3» why is he going to explain to you guys, all right? »» why is he going to the hospital? — — shawanda —— shawanda you are not helping. -- shawanda you are not helping. he —— shawanda you are not helping. hrs. needs —— shawanda you are not helping. needs his —— shawanda you are not helping. h3: needs his phone? it's in the car. t needs his phone? it's in the car. i don't want you reaching in the car. he will_ don't want you reaching in the car. he will get— don't want you reaching in the car. he will get in his car once he is done _ he will get in his car once he is done with— he will get in his car once he is done with that. his car is not going anywhere — done with that. his car is not going anywhere. he done with that. his car is not going an here. ., , ., done with that. his car is not going an here. .,, ., , ., anywhere. he has to get the phone. do not no anywhere. he has to get the phone. do not go into _ anywhere. he has to get the phone. do not go into the _ anywhere. he has to get the phone. do not go into the car. _ anywhere. he has to get the phone. do not go into the car. i _ anywhere. he has to get the phone. do not go into the car. i don't - anywhere. he has to get the phone. do not go into the car. i don't want| do not go into the car. i don't want you guys— do not go into the car. i don't want you guys going to the car, that's it. i don't know, something is wrong. once my partners come over here you can ask _ what? just go straight, man. it is tight— what? just go straight, man. it is tight here — what? just go straight, man. it is tight here. you guys good? officer chant, tight here. you guys good? officer chan , we tight here. you guys good? officer chang. we are _ tight here. you guys good? officer chang, we are pausing _ tight here. you guys good? officer chang, we are pausing the - tight here. you guys good? officer chang, we are pausing the video . tight here. you guys good? officerl chang, we are pausing the video for a second, you would agree that the ambulance appears to be leaving 13021 z on your body one cam? yes. 130212 on your body one cam? yes. waitin: 130212 on your body one cam? yes. waiting for— 130212 on your body one cam? yes. waiting for 320. _ that is bogus. he is such a man he has his_ that is bogus. he is such a man he has his knee — that is bogus. he is such a man he has his knee on _ that is bogus. he is such a man he has his knee on his— that is bogus. he is such a man he has his knee on his neck! - that is bogus. he is such a man he has his knee on his neck! fire - that is bogus. he is such a man he has his knee on his neck!— has his knee on his neck! are you cu s has his knee on his neck! are you guys good _ has his knee on his neck! are you guys good with — has his knee on his neck! are you guys good with these _ has his knee on his neck! are you guys good with these two? - has his knee on his neck! are you - guys good with these two? indistinct he is already gone, he doesn't need his phone — he is already gone, he doesn't need his phone ls — he is already gone, he doesn't need his phone. is that his phone? he is gone _ his phone. is that his phone? he is gone he _ his phone. is that his phone? he is gone he is — his phone. is that his phone? he is gone he is already went to hospital. are you _ gone he is already went to hospital. are you sure? put his phone back. what _ are you sure? put his phone back. what happened, why see in the hospital? what happened, why see in the hosital? 1 ., what happened, why see in the hosital? ., ., ., know, hospital? you ran him though? know, that man took — hospital? you ran him though? know, that man took our _ hospital? you ran him though? know, that man took our name. _ hospital? you ran him though? know, that man took our name. what - that man took our name. what happened to him? he said... timer;t happened to him? he said... they ket happened to him? he said... they ke -t his happened to him? he said... they kept his foot _ happened to him? he said... they kept his foot on _ happened to him? he said... they kept his foot on him _ happened to him? he said... they kept his foot on him and _ kept his foot on him and everythingm _ kept his foot on him and everything. . ._ kept his foot on him and everything... kept his foot on him and eve hina...~ ., ~ ., everything... what?! and what happened? _ everything. .. what?! and what happened? i— everything... what?! and what happened? i tried _ everything... what?! and what happened? i tried to _ everything... what?! and what happened? i tried to get - everything... what?! and what happened? i tried to get him . everything... what?! and what i happened? i tried to get him into the car, happened? i tried to get him into the car. but _ happened? i tried to get him into the car, but he _ happened? i tried to get him into the car, but he wouldn't. .. - happened? i tried to get him into the car, but he wouldn't... i - happened? i tried to get him into the car, but he wouldn't. .. i told| the car, but he wouldn't... i told him _ the car, but he wouldn't... i told him to— the car, but he wouldn't... i told him to get— the car, but he wouldn't... i told him to get in— the car, but he wouldn't... i told him to get in car— the car, but he wouldn't... i told him to get in car because - the car, but he wouldn't... i told him to get in car because i- the car, but he wouldn't... i told him to get in car because i know| the car, but he wouldn't... i told i him to get in car because i know he cant _ him to get in car because i know he can't. .. r ., ., . him to get in car because i know he can't. .. ~ 1, ., . i” can't... are good? all right, you cu s are can't... are good? all right, you guys are good- _ can't... are good? all right, you guys are good. he _ can't... are good? all right, you guys are good. he said - can't... are good? all right, you guys are good. he said these . can't... are good? all right, you| guys are good. he said these two can't... are good? all right, you - guys are good. he said these two are -ood guys are good. he said these two are good but _ guys are good. he said these two are good but i'm not too sure about this _ good but i'm not too sure about this. .. . .. good but i'm not too sure about this. .. , ., �*, good but i'm not too sure about this. .. ,., �*, ., this. that is a sylvie's truck, our ex co-worker. _ this. that is a sylvie's truck, our ex co-worker. if _ this. that is a sylvie's truck, our ex co-worker. if i _ this. that is a sylvie's truck, our ex co-worker. if i get _ this. that is a sylvie's truck, our ex co-worker. if i get her - this. that is a sylvie's truck, our ex co-worker. if i get her phonei this. that is a sylvie's truck, our| ex co-worker. if i get her phone i ex co—worker. if i get her phone i can call— ex co—worker. if i get her phone i can call and — ex co—worker. if i get her phone i can call and tell— ex co—worker. if i get her phone i can call and tell her, _ ex co—worker. if i get her phone i can call and tell her, sir. - ex co—worker. if i get her phone i can call and tell her, sir. the- ex co-worker. if i get her phone i can call and tell her, sir.- can call and tell her, sir. the car is auoin can call and tell her, sir. the car is going to _ can call and tell her, sir. the car is going to stay _ can call and tell her, sir. the car is going to stay put _ can call and tell her, sir. the car is going to stay put right - can call and tell her, sir. the car is going to stay put right here i is going to stay put right here until— is going to stay put right here until we — is going to stay put right here until we figure it out. well you better look _ until we figure it out. well you better lock it _ until we figure it out. well you better lock it because - until we figure it out. well you better lock it because his - until we figure it out. well you | better lock it because his phone until we figure it out. well you - better lock it because his phone is sitting right there. just better lock it because his phone is sitting right there.— sitting right there. just stay put, my partner _ sitting right there. just stay put, my partner is — sitting right there. just stay put, my partner is going _ sitting right there. just stay put, my partner is going to _ sitting right there. just stay put, my partner is going to come - sitting right there. just stay put, i my partner is going to come back, i don't _ my partner is going to come back, i don't know— my partner is going to come back, i don't know what the plan is. do you mind if i please _ don't know what the plan is. do you mind if i please just _ don't know what the plan is. do you mind if i please just get _ don't know what the plan is. do you mind if i please just get his - don't know what the plan is. do you mind if i please just get his phone? j mind if i please just get his phone? i don't _ mind if i please just get his phone? i don't want — mind if i please just get his phone? idon't want you _ mind if i please just get his phone? i don't want you guys _ mind if i please just get his phone? i don't want you guys touching - mind if i please just get his phone? i don't want you guys touching the. i don't want you guys touching the car. ,, , i don't want you guys touching the car. ., , r ., -- sirens blaring officer chang, you would agree that the timestamp on your body worn camera when the fire truck arrives is 132 and 50 seconds z correct? yes. ididn't hear i didn't hear nobody. indistinct. i think when i got here, the doors were _ i think when i got here, the doors were open, — i think when i got here, the doors were open, so they are both... they are gone- — were open, so they are both... they are gone- are _ were open, so they are both... they are gone. are you _ were open, so they are both. .. they are gone. are you still— were open, so they are both... they are gone. are you still good? - were open, so they are both... they are gone. are you still good? he's l are gone. are you still good? he's in the hospital. _ radio chatter. i tried to get into the car... i tried — i tried to get into the car... i tried to _ i tried to get into the car... i tried to get _ i tried to get into the car... i tried to get him _ i tried to get into the car... i tried to get him to— i tried to get into the car... i tried to get him to get- i tried to get into the car... i tried to get him to get in- i tried to get into the car... i tried to get him to get in the i tried to get into the car... i- tried to get him to get in the car. officer— tried to get him to get in the car. officer chang. _ tried to get him to get in the car. officer chang, you _ tried to get him to get in the car. officer chang, you would - tried to get him to get in the car. officer chang, you would agree l tried to get him to get in the car. l officer chang, you would agree not that the fire truck appears to be leaving, correct? yes. timestamp on your video is on 135 06 z, correct? yes. your video is on 135 06 2, correct? yes. ., , . your video is on 135 06 2, correct? yes. ., . . ., �*, yes. sub'ect to the court's ruling. now a yes. subject to the court's ruling. now a few — yes. subject to the court's ruling. now a few follow-up _ yes. subject to the court's ruling. now a few follow-up questions i yes. subject to the court's ruling. i now a few follow-up questions here, now a few follow—up questions here, officer chang for you. it seems to me that you are walking around quite a bit, can you explain why? just makin: a bit, can you explain why? just making sure. — a bit, can you explain why? just making sure. i _ a bit, can you explain why? just making sure, i was _ a bit, can you explain why? just making sure, i was concerned for the officer's— making sure, i was concerned for the officer's safety and the crowd so i wanted _ officer's safety and the crowd so i wanted to — officer's safety and the crowd so i wanted to make sure that the officers — wanted to make sure that the officers were ok. did wanted to make sure that the officers were ok.— wanted to make sure that the officers were ok. did you observe other people _ officers were ok. did you observe other people at — officers were ok. did you observe other people at other— officers were ok. did you observe other people at other locations i other people at other locations besides where mr floyd and the officers were? you besides where mr floyd and the officers were?— besides where mr floyd and the officers were? ., .., ._ ., .,, officers were? you can say at least one at every _ officers were? you can say at least one at every corner _ officers were? you can say at least one at every corner of _ officers were? you can say at least one at every corner of the - one at every corner of the intersection.— one at every corner of the intersection. . y., ., ,, , .,, intersection. did you observe people standin: in intersection. did you observe people standing in the _ intersection. did you observe people standing in the speedway _ intersection. did you observe people standing in the speedway parking i intersection. did you observe people j standing in the speedway parking lot to? . standing in the speedway parking lot to? yes. and they were one or two --eole to? yes. and they were one or two people on — to? yes. and they were one or two people on the _ to? yes. and they were one or two people on the corner where you guys were? and at least one person across the street to the west, right? southwest corner? now in terms of the general area, would you describe that as a pretty busy intersection? yes, traffic and foot traffic. 50. that as a pretty busy intersection? yes, traffic and foot traffic.- yes, traffic and foot traffic. so, a fair number _ yes, traffic and foot traffic. so, a fair number of _ yes, traffic and foot traffic. so, a fair number of cars, _ yes, traffic and foot traffic. so, a fair number of cars, vehicles i fair number of cars, vehicles driving to the intersection as well as a fair number of people on bikes or on foot walking past? yes. all ri . ht, or on foot walking past? yes. all right, ultimately _ or on foot walking past? yes. all right, ultimately did this pretty much and your involvement in this case? . , , much and your involvement in this case? . , so much and your involvement in this case?_ so you - much and your involvement in this i case?_ so you pretty case? yes, i suppose. so you pretty much went _ case? yes, i suppose. so you pretty much went back _ case? yes, i suppose. so you pretty much went back to _ case? yes, i suppose. so you pretty much went back to your _ case? yes, i suppose. so you pretty much went back to your regular- much went back to your regular duties with the park police, correct? yes. based on that your honour, i have no further questions. cross—examination. good morning officer chang. just a few follow—up questions for you. in the video we just watched at one point when you were talking with officer tao, a centre like you were asking him still read? is that what you said? what does that mean? ihis you said? what does that mean? his body camera was still on. and i you said? what does that mean? his body camera was still on. and so i you said? what does that mean? his| body camera was still on. and so you were asking — body camera was still on. and so you were asking him _ body camera was still on. and so you were asking him if— body camera was still on. and so you were asking him if his _ body camera was still on. and so you were asking him if his was _ body camera was still on. and so you were asking him if his was still i body camera was still on. and so you were asking him if his was still on i were asking him if his was still on because you had your still on still? yes. 50 because you had your still on still? yes, .,' . ., because you had your still on still? yes. .,' . ., ,., because you had your still on still? yes. .,' . ., y., ., yes. so officer chang when you are workin: yes. so officer chang when you are working for— yes. so officer chang when you are working for the _ yes. so officer chang when you are working for the minneapolis - yes. so officer chang when you are working for the minneapolis park i working for the minneapolis park police, you go through the academy with city police workers, correct? yes. . . r with city police workers, correct? yes. . . ~ ., with city police workers, correct? yes. . , ~ ., ., yes. -- recruits. at that point do ou yes. -- recruits. at that point do you know — yes. -- recruits. at that point do you know whether _ yes. -- recruits. at that point do you know whether you _ yes. -- recruits. at that point do you know whether you end i yes. -- recruits. at that point do you know whether you end up i yes. -- recruits. at that point do you know whether you end up at| yes. -- recruits. at that point do i you know whether you end up at the city police or the per police? lltlul’hen city police or the per police? when ou first city police or the per police? when you first start _ city police or the per police? when you first start the _ city police or the per police? when you first start the academy, i city police or the per police? when you first start the academy, you i you first start the academy, you already— you first start the academy, you already know who you will be working for. already know who you will be working for the _ already know who you will be working for. r . .. already know who you will be working for. r , ., ., , already know who you will be working for. m ., already know who you will be working for. r .. ~ ., already know who you will be working for. r ., ~' ., for. as far as you know, those recruits. _ for. as far as you know, those recruits. you _ for. as far as you know, those recruits, you could _ for. as far as you know, those recruits, you could be - for. as far as you know, those recruits, you could be working for. as far as you know, those i recruits, you could be working with them someday in the future? 1 recruits, you could be working with them someday in the future? i guess on a straight — them someday in the future? i guess on a straight if _ them someday in the future? i guess on a straight if we _ them someday in the future? i guess on a straight if we patrolled - them someday in the future? i guess on a straight if we patrolled the i on a straight if we patrolled the same _ on a straight if we patrolled the same area or precinct... but when ou start same area or precinct... but when you start you _ same area or precinct... but when you start you could _ same area or precinct... but when you start you could end _ same area or precinct... but when you start you could end up - same area or precinct... but when you start you could end up being l same area or precinct... but whenj you start you could end up being a city officer just like you start you could end up being a city officerjust like them?- city officer 'ust like them? know. so when city officerjust like them? know. so when initially _ city officerjust like them? know. so when initially when _ city officerjust like them? know. so when initially when you i city officerjust like them? know. so when initially when you get i city officerjust like them? know. | so when initially when you get the offer from — so when initially when you get the offer from the employer, you receive the offer _ offer from the employer, you receive the offer from minneapolis park police _ the offer from minneapolis park police prior to starting the academy. police prior to starting the academy-— police prior to starting the academy. police prior to starting the academ . ., academy. ok, now! get it. so you know ou academy. ok, nowi get it. so you know you you— academy. ok, now! get it. so you know you you know _ academy. ok, now! get it. so you know you you know you _ academy. ok, nowi get it. so you know you you know you will- academy. ok, now! get it. so you know you you know you will be i academy. ok, now! get it. so you| know you you know you will be part police and others may be city but when you get out on the streets... —— park police. when you are out on streets and monitor the person that you already 3— streets and monitor the person that you already —— you also have authority to assist with because outside of parks? in terms of an average shift let's say, how often do you do this where you assist on a city police call? hat do you do this where you assist on a city police call?— city police call? not often unless we are close _ city police call? not often unless we are close by _ city police call? not often unless we are close by because - city police call? not often unless we are close by because there i city police call? not often unless we are close by because there is| city police call? not often unless i we are close by because there is no cause _ we are close by because there is no cause at— we are close by because there is no cause at parks but we pretty much keep— cause at parks but we pretty much keep ourselves busy with the park system _ keep ourselves busy with the park system. but keep ourselves busy with the park s stem. �* , ., , keep ourselves busy with the park sstem. , keep ourselves busy with the park sstem.�* , ., system. but if you self assigned to hel a ci system. but if you self assigned to help a city call. — system. but if you self assigned to help a city call. you _ system. but if you self assigned to help a city call, you will _ system. but if you self assigned to help a city call, you will not i system. but if you self assigned to help a city call, you will not get i help a city call, you will not get in trouble from your supervisor for that? no. because that is all part of your responsibilities, you are allowed to do that? yes. and in fact when you work with the park police. you have the same radio traffic, you are able to hear the same radio traffic as the city police officers? yes. �* .,. ~' , ., traffic as the city police officers? yes. . ... ,. , ., ., yes. and in fact i think you heard to the city _ yes. and in fact i think you heard to the city officers _ yes. and in fact i think you heard to the city officers as _ yes. and in fact i think you heard to the city officers as your- to the city officers as your partners, correct? so when you are there you look to them as your partners in working the scene? yes. and ou partners in working the scene? yes. and you would _ partners in working the scene? yes. and you would expect _ partners in working the scene? yes. and you would expect they feel the same way about you? 1 and you would expect they feel the same way about you?— and you would expect they feel the same way about you?- and | same way about you? i guess. and with this particular— same way about you? i guess. and with this particular call, _ same way about you? i guess. and with this particular call, you i same way about you? i guess. and with this particular call, you heard| with this particular call, you heard a request for back—up, right on this call? a request for back-up, right on this call? . and a request for back—up, right on this call? yes. and because you heard some noise _ call? yes. and because you heard some noise in _ call? yes. and because you heard some noise in the _ call? yes. and because you heard some noise in the background, you decided initially to go late some sirens and to self assigned i think was the term you used? 3— sirens and to self assigned i think was the term you used? —— lights and sirens. it sounds like on your way there you turned off your lights and sirens, correct?— there you turned off your lights and sirens, correct? yes. and that was before you — sirens, correct? yes. and that was before you arrived? _ sirens, correct? yes. and that was before you arrived? yes. _ sirens, correct? yes. and that was before you arrived? yes. and i sirens, correct? yes. and that was| before you arrived? yes. and when ou before you arrived? yes. and when you arrive. — before you arrived? yes. and when you arrive. i _ before you arrived? yes. and when you arrive, i think we even heard as you arrive, i think we even heard as you are pulling up, the officers already assigned called code for, correct? . already assigned called code for, correct?- and _ already assigned called code for, correct? yes. and that ted michael what is your— correct? yes. and that ted michael what is your understanding back in may 25th, 2020 is what code for means? ,., , may 25th, 2020 is what code for means?_ so - may 25th, 2020 is what code for means?_ so it - may 25th, 2020 is what code for means?_ so it is i may 25th, 2020 is what code for i means?_ so it is under means? scene safety. so it is under control, correct? _ means? scene safety. so it is under control, correct? yes. _ means? scene safety. so it is under control, correct? yes. and - means? scene safety. so it is under control, correct? yes. and when i means? scene safety. so it is under| control, correct? yes. and when you not control, correct? yes. and when you got there. — control, correct? yes. and when you got there. you _ control, correct? yes. and when you got there. you got — control, correct? yes. and when you got there, you got out of your squad car, correct? got there, you got out of your squad car. correct?— got there, you got out of your squad car, correct? yes. and you see two city officers — car, correct? yes. and you see two city officers and — car, correct? yes. and you see two city officers and one _ car, correct? yes. and you see two city officers and one who do you they'd find out is officer king speaking with mr floyd? yes. and mr flo dis speaking with mr floyd? yes. and mr floyd is sitting on the sidewalk against the wall not appearing to be threatening at that time? ho. threatening at that time? no. doesn't appear _ threatening at that time? no. doesn't appear to _ threatening at that time? no. doesn't appear to be agitated or upset at that time? ho. doesn't appear to be agitated or upset at that time?— doesn't appear to be agitated or upset at that time? no. he was so riaht upset at that time? no. he was so right there — upset at that time? no. he was so right there sitting _ upset at that time? no. he was so right there sitting on _ upset at that time? no. he was so right there sitting on the _ upset at that time? no. he was so right there sitting on the sidewalk| right there sitting on the sidewalk he is _ right there sitting on the sidewalk he is pretty peaceful? yes. and when that happened. _ he is pretty peaceful? yes. and when that happened. you — he is pretty peaceful? yes. and when that happened, you never— he is pretty peaceful? yes. and when that happened, you never heard i he is pretty peaceful? yes. and when that happened, you never heard the i that happened, you never heard the officers call for a code three to other officers responding? ho. officers call for a code three to other officers responding? no. so the did other officers responding? no. so they did rrot _ other officers responding? no. so they did not call _ other officers responding? no. so they did not call code _ other officers responding? no. so they did not call code three, i they did not call code three, correct? _ they did not call code three, correct? ~ .. they did not call code three, correct? ~ ., ., , , ., correct? we are doing this question thin. you correct? we are doing this question thing. you heard _ correct? we are doing this question thing. you heard later— correct? we are doing this question thing. you heard later there - correct? we are doing this question thing. you heard later there was i correct? we are doing this question thing. you heard later there was a i thing. you heard later there was a call for code three on the ambulance ems, correct? but there was never a call for code three for the responding officers. 1 call for code three for the responding officers. call for code three for the res-condin officers. ., �* , responding officers. i don't believe so, no. responding officers. i don't believe so. no- and _ responding officers. i don't believe so, no. and when _ responding officers. i don't believe so, no. and when you _ responding officers. i don't believe so, no. and when you arrived i responding officers. i don't believe so, no. and when you arrived and. responding officers. i don't believe i so, no. and when you arrived and got out, i so, no. and when you arrived and got out. i assume — so, no. and when you arrived and got out. i assume you — so, no. and when you arrived and got out, i assume you are _ so, no. and when you arrived and got out, i assume you are trained - so, no. and when you arrived and got out, i assume you are trained to - out, i assume you are trained to assess the situation correct? and you did that as you are getting out of your squad car? yes. and when you did that, did you hear officer king asked mr floyd for his name? i did. asked mr floyd for his name? i did, es. and asked mr floyd for his name? i did, yes- and you _ asked mr floyd for his name? i did, yes. and you heard _ asked mr floyd for his name? i did, yes. and you heard mr _ asked mr floyd for his name? i did, yes. and you heard mr floyd - asked mr floyd for his name? i did, yes. and you heard mr floyd given l yes. and you heard mr floyd given his full name? _ yes. and you heard mr floyd given his full name? spell _ yes. and you heard mr floyd given his full name? spell it? _ yes. and you heard mr floyd given his full name? spell it? yes. - yes. and you heard mr floyd given his full name? spell it? yes. and | his full name? spell it? yes. and his full name? spell it? yes. and his date of— his full name? spell it? yes. and his date of birth? _ his full name? spell it? yes. and his date of birth? i _ his full name? spell it? yes. and his date of birth? i believe - his full name? spell it? yes. and his date of birth? i believe so, i his date of birth? i believe so, es. his date of birth? i believe so, yes- and _ his date of birth? i believe so, yes- and you _ his date of birth? i believe so, yes. and you were _ his date of birth? i believe so, yes. and you were able - his date of birth? i believe so, yes. and you were able to - his date of birth? i believe so, yes. and you were able to run | his date of birth? i believe so, - yes. and you were able to run that throuuh yes. and you were able to run that through your _ yes. and you were able to run that through your system? _ yes. and you were able to run that through your system? correct. - then you observed as the officers walked mr floyd over to their squad car, correct? walked mr floyd over to their squad car. correct?— walked mr floyd over to their squad car, correct? yes. and that's when ou car, correct? yes. and that's when you decided _ car, correct? yes. and that's when you decided to _ car, correct? yes. and that's when you decided to move your squad car up you decided to move your squad car up to that area correct? and your intention was to help those who officers with what they were doing? correct scapula but as soon as you -ot correct scapula but as soon as you got it. _ correct scapula but as soon as you got it. they— correct scapula but as soon as you got it, they ask you to watch the scene _ got it, they ask you to watch the scene by— got it, they ask you to watch the scene by the dragon walk... -- you were asked — scene by the dragon walk... -- you were asked to _ scene by the dragon walk... -- you were asked to watch _ scene by the dragon walk... -- you were asked to watch the _ scene by the dragon walk... -- you were asked to watch the scenes - scene by the dragon walk... -- you. were asked to watch the scenes with the two passengers... and once he walked back over there you really could not see what was going on with mr floyd in front of the cup foods. i believe at that time, they still had floyd — i believe at that time, they still had floyd against the car. i believe during _ had floyd against the car. i believe during that — had floyd against the car. i believe during that time, yes. 30 had floyd against the car. i believe during that time, yes.— during that time, yes. so against the driver side _ during that time, yes. so against the driver side of _ during that time, yes. so against the driver side of their _ during that time, yes. so against the driver side of their squad - during that time, yes. so against| the driver side of their squad car? i believe so, yes. but the driver side of their squad car? i believe so, yes.— i believe so, yes. but once he walked over _ i believe so, yes. but once he walked over to _ i believe so, yes. but once he walked over to the _ i believe so, yes. but once he walked over to the fire - i believe so, yes. but once he walked over to the fire side i i believe so, yes. but once hei walked over to the fire side of i believe so, yes. but once he - walked over to the fire side of the road over by the dragon walk, you could no longer see what was going on with mr floyd?— could no longer see what was going on with mr floyd? yes. you indicated that the crowd _ on with mr floyd? yes. you indicated that the crowd was getting louder and more aggressive, correct? yes. but ou and more aggressive, correct? yes. but you knew _ and more aggressive, correct? yes. but you knew that _ and more aggressive, correct? yes. but you knew that there _ and more aggressive, correct? yes. but you knew that there were now for officers over at that scene, correct?— officers over at that scene, correct?- and - officers over at that scene, correct?- and your| officers over at that scene, - correct?- and your main correct? correct. and your main focus was _ correct? correct. and your main focus was on — correct? correct. and your main focus was on washing _ correct? correct. and your main focus was on washing those - focus was on washing those passengers?— focus was on washing those passengers? focus was on washing those assenrers? , ., passengers? yes, in the car scapula and ou passengers? yes, in the car scapula and you assume _ passengers? yes, in the car scapula and you assume that _ passengers? yes, in the car scapula and you assume that those - passengers? yes, in the car scapula and you assume that those four- and you assume that those four officers — and you assume that those four officers were 0k over there... you officers were 0k over there. .. you assume that _ officers were 0k over there. .. you assume that they _ officers were 0k over there... wm. assume that they were 0k officers were 0k over there... wm. assume that they were ok because there were four of them, and if you had radioed from help, you would have heard it over your radio and they never radioed for help? mo. i they never radioed for help? no. i have no further questions, your honour. . .. have no further questions, your honour. ., ~ , ., have no further questions, your honour. ., ~ i. i. have no further questions, your honour. ., ~ ., have no further questions, your honour. ., ., . , honour. thank you, you are excused. we will take — honour. thank you, you are excused. we will take a _ honour. thank you, you are excused. we will take a ten _ honour. thank you, you are excused. we will take a ten minute _ honour. thank you, you are excused. we will take a ten minute break- we will take a ten minute break while _ we will take a ten minute break while we — we will take a ten minute break while we check _ we will take a ten minute break while we check the _ we will take a ten minute break while we check the availability i we will take a ten minute breakl while we check the availability of the next — while we check the availability of the next witness _ while we check the availability of the next witness so _ while we check the availability of the next witness so it _ while we check the availability of the next witness so it will- while we check the availability of i the next witness so it will probably be our _ the next witness so it will probably be our last — the next witness so it will probably be our last break— the next witness so it will probably be our last break before _ the next witness so it will probably be our last break before we - the next witness so it will probably be our last break before we breakl be our last break before we break for lunch — be our last break before we break for lunch. council— be our last break before we break for lunch. council of— be our last break before we break for lunch. council of chamber. - be our last break before we break for lunch. council of chamber. so| for lunch. council of chamber. so than for lunch. council of chamber. than another pause in the trial there of derek chauvin, the former minneapolis police officer on trial for the murder and man's —— manslaughter of george floyd last yearfor manslaughter of george floyd last year for some manslaughter of george floyd last yearfor some but manslaughter of george floyd last year for some but we were just watching there was testimony from another of the police officers who were at the scene, that was peter chang who was from the minneapolis park police who was called to the scene and he was a showing or the court was showing some of his body cam footage from the scene after george floyd had been arrested and apologies for some of the bad language you may have heard on that body cam footage but the trial is continuing, 12th day of the truck, the defence putting their case interviewing their witnesses and we will be back there when the trial resumes. now let's look at some of the other main stories this evening for you. and the latest on the vaccination programme. if you're over 45 years old and live in england you can now book your covid jab, as the vaccination programme enters its next phase. everyone over 50 or in a high risk group has now been offered a first dose, according to the government, and ministers say they're on track to offer all adults a vaccine by the end ofjuly. it comes as officials try to contain new cases of the south african variant in south london, where hundreds of thousands of residents have been asked to come forward for tests. the prime minister has warned infections will rise as the economy reopens, and he's urged people to continue to be cautious. jim reed reports. another major milestone for the vaccination programme. all over 50s and those in high—risk groups in the uk have now been offered that first dose. at this vaccination centre in reading, they will now be inviting the next age group down. it's great we've managed to achieve the target of getting everyone in the 1—9 groups vaccinated by the deadline, by the timetable. a little bit ahead, actually. we are now going to the 16—49 group, they are being asked to come forward. all those aged 45 and up can now use the nhs website to book appointments. the site appeared to crash this morning as thousands more tried to get a slot, though it is now back up and running. overall, more than 32 million people have had at least one jab of the astrazeneca and pfizer vaccines. going forward, though, the nhs will have to give a shot to all those coming back for a second booster dose, while at the same time trying to keep first doses going for those younger age groups. are you feeling well today? today, the firstjabs using a third vaccine, made by the american firm moderna, are being given in england following a roll—out in wales and scotland. the supply forecast gives us confidence that, assuming those supplies carry on as expected then, yes, we will not only deliver on the april 15th milestone of everybody aged 50 and above having had the chance for a vaccine, but all adults by the end ofjuly. all this comes at an important time in this pandemic. pub gardens and shops in england are now open for the first time this year. the successful vaccine roll—out has helped to drive down infections and deaths. but scientists say the public still needs to follow the rules to avoid another wave of infections. the vaccines are only one part of the solution to the problem. people do need to continue to be careful and to avoid infecting each other. you can have this infection without realising it and so there is a risk. there are now all these tests available that people can obtain to test themselves, and people should use those and i, certainly, for one, are going to continue to take a lot of care. and today, another reminder of how easily this virus can spread. every resident of two london boroughs, wandsworth and lambeth, is being asked to take a pcr covid test. that's after a large cluster of infections caused by a variant of the virus first found in south africa. we have an outbreak _ that we are aware of in a local care home, but we also know - there has been some spread to the wider community _ and we've been testing and tracing contacts from that outbreak. but what we want to do now is check there's no further spread _ across our boroughs, _ both in lambeth and wandsworth. lambeth council says it is fairly confident it has the outbreak under control, but all those living in the boroughs, plus anyone who travels through, have been told they should get tested to reduce the chance of it spreading. jim reed reporting there. well, we get more now on the south african variant of covid—19 by talking to doctorjulian tang. he's a clinical virologist in respiratory sciences at the university of leicester. thank you very much for being with us. we heard quite a lot about the south african us what it is and why we should be concerned about it. the south we should be concerned about it. tue south african we should be concerned about it. tte south african variant we should be concerned about it. he south african variant is we should be concerned about it. t'te south african variant is for we should be concerned about it. he south african variant is for that region, including the... but also the couple mutations that aren't in the couple mutations that aren't in the variant. which have been brought out in small populations in south africa. which should just perhaps 10% or less efficacy from the astrazeneca vaccine. so 10% or less efficacy from the astrazeneca vaccine.- astrazeneca vaccine. so the vaccines. — astrazeneca vaccine. so the vaccines. is _ astrazeneca vaccine. so the vaccines, is that _ astrazeneca vaccine. so the vaccines, is that what - astrazeneca vaccine. so the | vaccines, is that what you're saying? they are not necessarily as effective against that variant? yeah, so, vaccines that have been tested against the south african variant include astrazeneca and pfizer and moderna, and astrazeneca doesn't show good protection against that variant. the mru vaccine is slightly better response, but also reduced compared to their response to the original wuhan virus. so, the south african variant seems to have a property that escapes more effectively from the vaccines is concerning. also, isn't more than other variants? tt concerning. also, isn't more than other variants?— concerning. also, isn't more than other variants? it certainly seems to be more _ other variants? it certainly seems to be more transmissible - other variants? it certainly seems to be more transmissible it - other variants? it certainly seems. to be more transmissible it doesn't seem to be more severe. you may see some increased transmissibility with that variant. this some increased transmissibility with that variant. �* . . that variant. as we heard in the re ort, that variant. as we heard in the report. those — that variant. as we heard in the report, those two _ that variant. as we heard in the report, those two areas - that variant. as we heard in the report, those two areas of- that variant. as we heard in the | report, those two areas of south london are surge testing. how effective do you think that is likely to be?— likely to be? i'm not sure. it depends— likely to be? i'm not sure. it depends on _ likely to be? i'm not sure. it depends on how _ likely to be? i'm not sure. it depends on how much - likely to be? i'm not sure. it depends on how much that i likely to be? i'm not sure. it- depends on how much that virus is actually assimilating beyond those identified already, and that would depend on the contacts and how much that track and trace can track them down. very often, as soon as you find one or a cluster,... we might find one or a cluster,... we might find a cluster of ten. the virus may have actually spread and be incubating and ten, 20 or 30 others depending on contact rates. thank ou so depending on contact rates. thank you so much- _ depending on contact rates. thank you so much. that's _ depending on contact rates. thank you so much. that's very - depending on contact rates. thank you so much. that's very good - depending on contact rates. thank you so much. that's very good of i depending on contact rates. thank you so much. that's very good of you to talk to us. the number of people who have died and had covid—19 on their death certificate has surpassed 150,000. that differs from the daily figure that we get from the daily figure that we get from the government. that is the measure of deaths within 28 days of a positive covid test. that figure currently stands at just over 127,000. just if currently stands at just over 127,000. just if you're confused about those two sets of data. let's talk to our head of statistics robert cuffe. just explain that difference again and tell us about this figure of 150,000, obviously very grim. this this figure of 150,000, obviously ve rim. r this figure of 150,000, obviously ve rim. a ., ., very grim. as you say, we have two measures- — very grim. as you say, we have two measures. when _ very grim. as you say, we have two measures. when we _ very grim. as you say, we have two measures. when we look _ very grim. as you say, we have two measures. when we look at - very grim. as you say, we have two measures. when we look at every l very grim. as you say, we have two i measures. when we look at every day, the number of people who died within 28 days of a positive test. that could have happened yesterday or the day before or recently. that's really useful for monitoring the terrans, but it missed people who got tested or do died after a test. the office for national statistics look at death certificates and any mention of covid as a factor involved in those deaths, and then count up those numbers. the number tends to be a bit bigger. it gives us a better picture of the overall total of the pandemic, and if that number that's gone past 150,000 deaths today. the more narrow version is 127, still terribly large. version is 127, still terribly larae. , . . version is 127, still terribly larae. , ., ., large. just give us an overall icture large. just give us an overall picture of — large. just give us an overall picture of what _ large. just give us an overall picture of what is _ large. just give us an overall picture of what is happening | large. just give us an overall- picture of what is happening now in terms of the number of cases and the number of deaths that we're seeing on a day—to—day basis. number of deaths that we're seeing on a day-to-day basis.— on a day-to-day basis. we're in a very different _ on a day-to-day basis. we're in a very different position _ on a day-to-day basis. we're in a very different position now - on a day-to-day basis. we're in a i very different position now compared to when we passed 100,000. so, at the moment, we saw... we're seeing deaths falling every week. there were only a50 deaths in the week that pushed us over the total, and when we passed 100,000, we were coming up on seeing 1000 deaths in a single week, a 95% fall. more recently today, we saw 23 deaths within 20 days of a positive test. that's not very different compared to last week, when the figure was 20 deaths last tuesday. last week involved a bank holiday, and you get different numbers than. the case numbers continue to fall. we saw around 2700 positive cases announced just recently by the government, and the seven day average looks to have fallen by about 500 compared to where it was. the falls aren't as massive as we seen recently, but they're certainly not going in the wrong direction.— they're certainly not going in the wrong direction. scotland's first minister, nicola sturgeon, has brought forward the easing of some covid restrictions — ten days earlier than expected. she also said the limits on how many people can meet outdoors will increase to six adults from six households. our correspondent lorna gordon says nicola sturgeon's announcement will be welcomed by many. some big, significant changes coming earlier than expected and it's all to do with that stay local restriction here in scotland that was meant to stay in place until april 26th, so that's a little under two weeks' time. it would have been a week on monday it was lifted, but nicola sturgeon today announcing that because the data, the number of cases, is all moving in the right direction, the case numbers are falling and falling quite fast and quite dramatically, in part because of that vaccination programme, she says they're bringing forward, accelerating the route map out of lockdown and that the stay local restriction will be lifted on friday. at that point, family and friends can travel across scotland for recreation, to see each other, as long as they stay outside. one other key change that comes in on friday, the four people from two different households that are allowed to meet up outdoors will change to six people from six households being allowed to meet outdoors, and that of course doesn't include children under 12, they are in addition to any limited group numbers that are meeting. but the stay local restriction is being lifted on friday, a lot of people will be very pleased to hear that they can meet family and friends who live outside of their council area again. the organisers of the edinburgh festival say it will go on this year. details of the programme will be announced. they are hoping to stage live performances to socially distance is audiences across the city as well as streaming them on line. here is the as executive director of the facts double. what kind of festival isn't going going to be? �* . kind of festival isn't going going to be? �* , ., ., , kind of festival isn't going going tobe? �*, ., .,, ., kind of festival isn't going going tobe? �*, ., ., , to be? it's going to be a different kind of festival _ to be? it's going to be a different kind of festival this _ to be? it's going to be a different kind of festival this year. - kind of festival this year. obviously, we still are in a pandemic. but we're hopeful that by the time all this comes along, we'll have a little bit more flexibility and relaxation. so, we're planning to come back live, the first time in well over a year. we'll have the programme of brilliant actors and artists in three bespoke, specially built outdoor venues. to get people that come for they will be outdoors, you can see all the artist that they would like to get from a normal experience. haas that they would like to get from a normal experience.— that they would like to get from a normal experience. how many people do ou normal experience. how many people do you think — normal experience. how many people do you think you _ normal experience. how many people do you think you will— normal experience. how many people do you think you will have _ normal experience. how many people do you think you will have in - normal experience. how many people do you think you will have in the - do you think you will have in the audience?— do you think you will have in the audience? ~ �* , ., , , audience? we're still doing numbers on that because _ audience? we're still doing numbers on that because the _ audience? we're still doing numbers on that because the guidance - audience? we're still doing numbers on that because the guidance has i on that because the guidance has just come out this afternoon but it will be within the government guidance, so it'll be in the hundreds, i expect.- guidance, so it'll be in the hundreds, i expect. guidance, so it'll be in the hundreds,iexect. , , ., hundreds, i expect. this must have been an absolute _ hundreds, i expect. this must have been an absolute nightmare - hundreds, i expect. this must have been an absolute nightmare for- hundreds, i expect. this must have| been an absolute nightmare for you to try and plan and keep up with all the various restrictions and to chart the way that the virus is going. is this better than you were expecting at one stage?— going. is this better than you were expecting at one stage? yeah, there have been some _ expecting at one stage? yeah, there have been some dark— expecting at one stage? yeah, there have been some dark days. - expecting at one stage? yeah, there have been some dark days. no - expecting at one stage? yeah, there have been some dark days. no one i expecting at one stage? yeah, there i have been some dark days. no one has known a year like this in their career, but i think we are kind of confident and happy where the numbers have landed because they're not1 million miles away from where we thought we might end up. festival have to plan months in advance of when they happen. actually, we need to make a call as to what we are going to do, so we took the decision that we were going to go outdoors and that we would have hundreds rather than thousands. it's really good to see the guidance today because i think we're in the right ballpark. because i think we're in the right ballark. �* ., ., ballpark. and what about the performance? _ ballpark. and what about the performance? they - ballpark. and what about the performance? they must - ballpark. and what about the performance? they must be| ballpark. and what about the - performance? they must be excited that they can be part of this year's festival. t that they can be part of this year's festival. .. that they can be part of this year's festival. ,, , , ., , that they can be part of this year's festival. ~' , ,., , , that they can be part of this year's festival. ~' , , , , festival. i think everybody is 'ust des - erate festival. i think everybody is 'ust desperate to�* festival. i think everybody is 'ust desperate to come i festival. i think everybody is 'ust desperate to come back i festival. i think everybody is 'ust desperate to come back and i festival. i think everybody is just| desperate to come back and have festival. i think everybody is just i desperate to come back and have a performance in real life. i think digital has been fantastic over the last 12 months, but i think it's nothing to replicate that sense of coming together and experiencing everything a brilliant performance can give you with your friends and family. obviously, we're looking at performers predominantly from scotland and the uk, but with some individual international artists that i think everybody is looking forward to getting back on stage. really good luck to you, i hope it's a triumph. fran hegyi, executive director of the edinburgh festival. bbc news can exclusively reveal that the government's lgbt advisory panel has been disbanded — after three of its members quit last month. it's understood that the panel has not formally met senior government representatives since last year. our political correspondentjessica parker broke the story. this was set up under theresa may's government. it originally number. in part, there were concerns over claims that what was dragging its feet over a ban on conversion therapy. we knew the terms of offer was due to end at the in the march, but a couple panelists thought they might still be in office. they haven't really heard from the government and they were willing to carry on advising the government on lgbt issues. we broke this morning that the advisory panel had actually been disbanded. the equalities minister wrote to them and thanked them for their service and said she would appoint a new one. we don't really know much more about that at the moment. really know much more about that at the moment-— the moment. what's been the reaction? _ the moment. what's been the reaction? there _ the moment. what's been the reaction? there has _ the moment. what's been the reaction? there has been - the moment. what's been the i reaction? there has been some the moment. what's been the - reaction? there has been some anger and criticism- — reaction? there has been some anger and criticism. there _ reaction? there has been some anger and criticism. there was _ reaction? there has been some anger and criticism. there was already - and criticism. there was already anger and criticism last year. which was defined by a number of health bodies as the practice of changing someone's sexuality or gender identity. they say it's a legally complex and they're trying to figure out plans to bring a band and liz truss said she will being friends varies shortly. —— bring plans. crisp and blunt chairs a parliamentary group on lgbt global rights and says the government is making a series of unforced errors in this area and is potentially doing itself reputational damage —— crispin blunt. the doing itself reputational damage -- crispin lalum-— crispin blunt. the prime minister has insisted... _ crispin blunt. the prime minister has insisted... will _ crispin blunt. the prime minister has insisted... will be _ crispin blunt. the prime minister has insisted... will be given - crispin blunt. the prime minister has insisted... will be given free | has insisted... will be given free reign. the labour party says the scope of the investigation is not adequate. it wants a full inquiry. how did former prime minister david cameron used his contacts and did his employer benefit from his converts? the government is holding a review of schemes the company was involved in, headed by a lawyer. i would like it to be done quickly, but i want him to have the maximum possible access and so we can all understand exactly what happened and that will of course be presented to parliament in due course. in parliament, there are lots of questions already for the health secretary, who went for a drink with mr cameron and mr greensill after the finance firm had proposed using an app it had devised in the nhs. absolutely, i attended a social meeting organised by the former prime minister. and given that departmental business came up, i reported it to officials in the normal way. labour accused the government of a pattern of behaviour. it is cronyism and it stinks. so if he thinks he has done nothing wrong and has nothing to hide, - will he publish all of the minutes, all the e—mails, all— the correspondence, _ all the directions he gave to civil servants and all his text messages with david cameron so we can- see exactly what went on with the awarding of his contract? i there are questions for the business secretary, too. last year greensill was chosen to give loans to other companies, like the owners of liberty steel, as part of a government scheme to help businesses through the pandemic. the british business bank, which ran it, said it wasn't lobbied by mr cameron. the business secretary was asked if he had been. presumably mr cameron didn't lobby you, ministers or officials in the department in...? i have never received a single phone call whatsoever from mr cameron. lobbying is a usual part of politics, and david cameron says he didn't break any rules, although he said there were lessons to be learned. labour says the review isn't enough. tomorrow, it will force a vote to try to get mps to run their own investigation. church leaders have appeal for politicians to provide a unified response to what they called heartbreaking scenes of violence in northern ireland. almost 90 police officers have been injured in writing in the last week, although recent nights have been quiet. the british and irish government and to the european union. earlier in the commons, brandon lewis said there is still work to do to ease tensions. northern ireland has made huge strides over the last two decades, but it is a post—conflict society and they do remain evidence of fragility. some sections of the community feel their concerns are not understood. the reconciliation, equality and mutual understanding between the communities and traditions envisioned in the belfast good friday agreement is not recognised or experienced by all. there is still work to do. the shadow northern _ there is still work to do. the shadow northern ireland secretary criticised the prime minister and said the instability was caused by the loss of trust. the said the instability was caused by the loss of trust.— the loss of trust. the prime minister — the loss of trust. the prime minister made _ the loss of trust. the prime minister made promises i the loss of trust. the prime minister made promises to | the loss of trust. the prime i minister made promises to the the loss of trust. the prime _ minister made promises to the people of northern ireland that there would be of northern ireland that there would he no _ of northern ireland that there would be no border with great britain. knowing — be no border with great britain. knowing full well is brexit deal would — knowing full well is brexit deal would introduce barriers across the irish sea _ would introduce barriers across the irish sea. he made those promises because _ irish sea. he made those promises because he — irish sea. he made those promises because he knew economic separation would _ because he knew economic separation would he _ because he knew economic separation would be unacceptable to the unionist— would be unacceptable to the unionist community. and the growing political— unionist community. and the growing political instability we are seeing has its _ political instability we are seeing has its roots in the loss of trust that _ has its roots in the loss of trust that this — has its roots in the loss of trust that this cause. trust matters. it is what _ that this cause. trust matters. it is what secured and has always sustained — is what secured and has always sustained the belfast good friday agreement. in moments of instability, what sirjohn major and tony blair. — instability, what sirjohn major and tony blair, the right honourable member— tony blair, the right honourable member understood, labourand member understood, labour and conservative, is member understood, labourand conservative, is that trust, leadership and partnership are paramount to finding a way forward in northern ireland. our paramount to finding a way forward in northern ireland.— in northern ireland. our ireland correspondent _ in northern ireland. our ireland correspondent chris _ in northern ireland. our ireland correspondent chris page - in northern ireland. our ireland correspondent chris page has i in northern ireland. our ireland i correspondent chris page has given me the latest on situations in belfast itself.— belfast itself. after a week of street violence _ belfast itself. after a week of street violence in _ belfast itself. after a week of street violence in various - belfast itself. after a week of. street violence in various parts belfast itself. after a week of - street violence in various parts of northern ireland, the last three nights have been totally quiet. the local and the violence is down to a number of factors —— of the lull. street protests have been called off because of the death of prince philip, they say it's not inappropriate for demonstrations to be held during the period of mourning. they've appeal for people not to take to the streets in protest. church leaders, youth workers, community activists have been on the ground in places where there was trouble last week to try to steer any young people who are turning out, perhaps looking to cause trouble, to try to keep a sense of calm. there's been a lot of work going on on the ground away from the cameras. so, now the intention very much turning to the underlying causes of the situation. you had unionist politicians criticising the government for different reasons. unionist, that part of the brexit deal has resulted and an effective trade border between northern ireland and the west of the uk. also, nationalists say the government need to be more engaged and northern ireland, and there needs to be a summit between there needs to be a summit between the british and irish government under... which was good friday agreement. the irish prime minister will travel to london tomorrow to have some talks about the situation in northern ireland and about the ongoing issues around the northern ireland protocol, although he won't be negotiating directly with london eye about the protocol, because that is the european commission's job. eye about the protocol, because that is the european commission'sjob. he will look at the issues around the process to try to reach an agreement between the uk and the eu to ease the way that protocol is operating. it may go some way to defusing the tension. . . it may go some way to defusing the tension. , ., ., �* , tension. chris page. the world's which is people _ tension. chris page. the world's which is people will— tension. chris page. the world's which is people will have - tension. chris page. the world's which is people will have to - which is people will have to radically change their lifestyles if climate change is to be tackled. the cambridge sustainability commission, the wealthiest 5%, were responsible for more than a third of the growth in emissions between 1990 on 2015. people need to fly less, insulate their property and ditch polluting cars. take off for the sunshine. pollution from flying is growing, but it's routine for many of us in rich nations. the more you fly, the more you pollute, so the commissions as frequent fliers should pay more tax. the government says it might breach privacy, but the rich must change, they say. that class of individuals. whose behaviour needs to be targeted... what we are arguing is these are a shrink and shares so we need to shrink and shares so we need to shrink the carbon budget in line with the budget. we need to share that response leave fairly. the wealthy 196 _ that response leave fairly. the wealthy 196 to _ that response leave fairly. the wealthy 1% to people in it twice as much gas as the poorest. this clearly must change, the report says. change is coming. technology will help cure the climate problem. i think government policy should not focus _ i think government policy should not focus on _ i think government policy should not focus on penalising people, and instead — focus on penalising people, and instead be encouraging people to take up— instead be encouraging people to take up clean technologies. we should technology hasn't stopped emissions rising. that's partly because people are driving ever bigger cars. there's much support for taxing or banning large suvs like these. the report says the rich must lead the way and cutting emissions. rich versus poor— it'll be a theme this year. president biden is a meaning a climate summit next week and the uk's climate summit next week and the uk's hosting another in november. they won't be allowed to forget it's mostly the wealthy who've overheated the planet. george is next with the bbc news at six. here is the weather with ben rich. hello. if you are spending a bit more time outdoors this week, a mainly dry outlook may well be welcome, but if you're a gardener or grower, you might well be looking for some rain by now. all the main raring bearing systems a re systems are well away from our shores. high pressure is fending them off and keeping us largely dry, but not completely dry. we have seen some showers that managed to pop up during the day and we will see some more of those during the day tomorrow. from the time being, many spots will be dry with long, clear spells. temperatures for many spots not quite as low as they were last night, but —6 looks quite likely in part of northeast scotland. one or two mist and fog patches around but for the majority, it's a fine looking day with patchy cloud and sunny spell. again, you will see just one or two showers popping up. on first glance, the winds don't look like much of a future. they will be very light in much places, but close to the east coast, the winds will become straight off the chilly waters of the north —— most places. so temperatures across the east coast of scotland and england really will struggle, just seven, eight or 9 degrees. quite a noticeable breeze for coast of norfolk, so far, essex and kent. a bit of shelter, it will be a little bit of shelter, it will be a little bit warmer. 12 degrees for glasgow, 13 and cardiff. frost looks set to be a feature once again. into thursday morning, and the orientation of this high means that eastern areas will continue to see a feat of cold air from the north sea. it also looks like we'll see these line of showers skipping in from the north sea. many places again through thursday, dry with some spells of sunshine, highest temperatures out west. parts of northern what ireland and western scotland could look at value of 1a or 15 degrees. temperatures will be good... some rain in the far northwest. today at six: the vaccination roll out is on target — but it comes with a prime ministerial warning. people under a5 in england are now being offered a jab — borisjohnson says it's no time to let our guard down. it's notjust the vaccine roll—out that's causing the reduction in deaths and infections. overwhelmingly, that's been delivered by the lockdown. we need to continue to be cautious and be sensible, as we roll forward with the vaccination programme. and right on cue — a new cluster of the south african variant in south london. everybody in the area is being asked to get a test. now the johnson & johnson vaccine is linked to blood clots. american health experts want a pause in its roll—out, and the company is delaying its distribution in the eu. that vaccine is not due for use in the uk till the autumn

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