with the weight of the evidence but, more importantly, not backed up by any record the white house was willing to provide ambassador sondland. if that call didn t exist or is confused with another call, what proof is there that this president wasn t doing exactly what it looks like? if mueller had phone records like this, who knows what else he would have brought to beare n that probe. they once again inform the obvious. this wasn t one perfect call. it was a highly imperfect alliance of lots of pieces, players, all in the service of a potus with a poison pursuit, one that appears to have started as a cover for the mueller report and culminated with a president abusing his power by pressuring a foreign policy to help him politically. now, if there are other explanations for the calls and the testimony, we welcome it. this is about the truth.
backed up by any records the white house was willing to provide ambassador sondland. if that call didn t exist or whatever, is confused with another call, then what proof is there that this president wasn t doing exactly what it looks like. if mueller had phone records like this, who knows what else he would have brought to bear in that probe. now, they once again inform the obvious. this wasn t one perfect call. it was a highly imperfect alliance of lots of pieces, players, all in the service of a potus with a poison pursuit, one that appears to have started as a cover for the mueller report and culminated with a president abusing his power by pressuring a foreign power to help him politically. now, if there are other explanations for the calls and the testimony, we welcome it. this is about the truth. but choosing to ignore all this only makes what it looks like look more obvious.
trying to do to get the ukrai ukrainians to be more serious about investigating corruption. that meant getting rid of that prosecutor who wasn t doing anything and getting one in place that would actually fight corruption. where his son and that company is concerned is succeeding in that, to get the ukrainians to change prosecutors and investigate corruption would have made it more likely that that company would be investigated rather than less likely. on the face of it, it doesn t hold up and doesn t make any sense. let me ask you about what you have seen and learned in terms of the way in which the state department is working in the trump administration. particularly the attack on the previous ukrainian ambassador, these attacks on the state department officials. the president calls them never trumpers, when there s no evidence that either of them was that. what s that doing to the state
pursuing corruption. what vice president biden was trying to do was get the ukrainians to be more serious about investigating corruption. and that in this particular case meant getting rid of that prosecutor who wasn t doing anything and getting one in place who would actually fight corruption. the point being where his son in that company is concerned is succeeding in that, including leveraging u.s. assistance to get the ukrainians to change prosecutors and investigation corruption, would have made it more likely that that company would be investigated rather than less likely. on the face of it, it doesn t hold up and doesn t make any sense. let me ask you about what you have seen and learned in terms of the way in which the state department is working in the trump administration. particularly the attack on the previous ukrainian ambassador, these attacks on these state department officials. the predcalls them never
trumpers when there s no evidence that either of them was that. what are you hearing in terms of what is that doing to the state department, to ambassadors? this was already a tough situation. and then on top of that, this particular ukraine case, where you see the ambassador to ukraine, yovanovitch, 30-year veteran of the foreign service, highly respected who had done hard posts. by the way, in republican and democratic administrations. i think president bush appointed her as ambassador to armenia. highly respected, well liked. fired for the apparent reason of just not willing to do the president s bidding. she came under fire in the media because rudy giuliani and the president s son, don jr., started going after her and making allegations. and next thing you know she s removed and the state department misled the public saying she was removed as schedule when it wasn t as scheduled.