come up malcolm. malcolm. malcolm, my friend. you must let the other guest speaker. it is rude. please let thomas speak. thank you. okay, so malcolm said that these statues represent white supremacy. i m not in a position to tell malcolm what he should think about these statues. these are pieces of art. folks are free to make their own interpretation of what they mean or don t mean. there are a variety of different ways of looking at these pieces. for him to say that these are this way and that anyone who disagrees with that is wrong, to me, it s absurd. these are pieces of art, they are created in a manner in which there are a multiplicity of ways of looking at them, and when they look at these pieces of art, they have a variety of different ways of interpreting them. i have been around these pieces of art all of my life, and it never occurred to me for one second that they were pieces of white supremacy. in fact, mitch landrieu wrote
who else is left? is madison okay? james madison okay with you? no, he is not okay. he was a slave owner. he is not. laura: okay. so we need to rename washington, d.c., correct? yes, i would do that. laura: okay, rename washington, d.c. that s not for me to determine. laura: no, we need to know, malcolm, where you are coming from. and we just established it, thank you very much. let s move on to thomas, thomas, time for you to talk on. white supremacy, we got it. thomas, what is your sense on this? well, laura, thank you for having me, first of all. i would like to say, i love the fact that malcolm wants to allow washington, d.c., to vote on the name of the capital. why didn t he allow us to have a vote in new orleans on the removal of the monuments? the mayor, the city council has decided for themselves on this issue laura: let him speak please
himself said, when he was challenged to take down the statues, mitch said, what are you talking about? i don t know what you mean. statues mean white supremacy? the reason that mitch did not understand that, a lot of folks in this city do not see the statues that way. laura: let s go back to malcolm. malcolm, malcolm, hold on. malcolm when these statues laura: malcolm, until the last, i don t know, two, three years i ve come to new orleans on and off for the last two or three years. until the last, about two years, i hadn t heard anyone talk about the statues in charlottesville, in new orleans, in new york, i hadn t heard anyone until mostly outside agitators came in and said, guess what, history has to
be eradicated, we have to rename every federal building, we have to completely reach change history and we have to get rid of it all. had never heard it. this is the fundamental problem. because what is happening in the city is that one group of people is deciding for everyone else how we should think about a piece of art. this is, to me, the most frightening occurrence of this whole thing. laura: okay, talking over each other. they put them up without any input whatsoever from the black community, and now that we are the majority, it is up to us to decide what laura: malcolm, you are right. malcolm, i agree. malcolm, you re not going to believe this, but i agree with you. it is up to the people to decide. end of the people decide they want to remove the monuments, that is the will of the people. don t ram it through at night and remove the statues and put them in a place we don t even know where those statues are. and we don t know what is
going to happen to them. one of the things that is so shocking about the whole process is that the city council never had any plan in place for what happens to the monuments. laura: we are all against the white supremacy but we offer history as well. malcolm and thomas, will have your back, thank you so much. and president trump, by the way, has made remarkable transformation into, believe it or not, a powerful voice for faith. franklin graham is up next to it s easy to think that all money managers are pretty much the same. but while some push high commission investment products, fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and layered fees. fisher investments never does. and while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that s why most of our clients come from other money managers.