send a strong message to all who walked in the shadows about who was still in charge in this city. laura: new orleans took down four confederate statues last may after the city council declared them in a public nuisance. there was no vote of the people. landrieu called the effort a move toward healing. let s discuss statues, the mayor s priorities, and what is next with the coordinator with the group called take em down nola and the leader of the robert elite monument association. malcolm, let s start with you. you must be pretty happy that you took down four statues, got jeff davis down, robert e. lee, got that liberty monuments down, and general beauregard, got four statues down, what s next for you? well, our name is take em
down nola, and we want to take them all down. there are 20 more statues that are dedicated to white supremacy in the city of new orleans. we have hundreds of streets named and parks named for confederate and white supremacists, and we want to wipe the slate clean, and we have challenged the mayor, from the very beginning, don t do a half job, let s do the whole job. laura: malcolm, i want to jump in here, because jackson square, that is new orleans, jackson square, do you say that jackson square jackson square is not new orleans? no, it s not new orleans. do you want andrew jackson to be laura: do you want andrew jackson to be eradicated okay, let s move on. would you like thomas jefferson, anything related to thomas jefferson thomas jefferson has to go? george washington has to go?
be eradicated, we have to rename every federal building, we have to completely reach change history and we have to get rid of it all. had never heard it. this is the fundamental problem. because what is happening in the city is that one group of people is deciding for everyone else how we should think about a piece of art. this is, to me, the most frightening occurrence of this whole thing. laura: okay, talking over each other. they put them up without any input whatsoever from the black community, and now that we are the majority, it is up to us to decide what laura: malcolm, you are right. malcolm, i agree. malcolm, you re not going to believe this, but i agree with you. it is up to the people to decide. end of the people decide they want to remove the monuments, that is the will of the people. don t ram it through at night and remove the statues and put them in a place we don t even know where those statues are.
george washington has to go? who else is left? is madison okay? james madison okay with you? no, he is not okay. he was a slave owner. he is not. laura: okay. so we need to rename washington, d.c., correct? yes, i would do that. laura: okay, rename washington, d.c. that s not for me to determine. laura: no, we need to know, malcolm, where you are coming from. and we just established it, thank you very much. let s move on to thomas, thomas, time for you to talk on. white supremacy, we got it. thomas, what is your sense on this? well, laura, thank you for having me, first of all. i would like to say, i love the fact that malcolm wants to allow washington, d.c., to vote on the name of the capital. why didn t he allow us to have a vote in new orleans on the removal of the monuments? the mayor, the city council has decided for themselves on this issue
and we don t know what is going to happen to them. one of the things that is so shocking about the whole process is that the city council never had any plan in place for what happens to the monuments. laura: we are all against the white supremacy but we offer history as well. malcolm and thomas, will have your back, thank you so much. and president trump, by the way, has made remarkable transformation into, believe it or not, a powerful voice for faith. franklin graham is up next to give us some perspective today. me. the thought of my symptoms returning was keeping me from being there for the people and things i love most. so, i talked to my doctor and learned humira can help get, and keep,uc under control when other medications haven t worked well enough. and it helps people achieve control that lasts so you could experience few or no symptoms.