who else is left? is madison okay? james madison okay with you? >> no, he is not okay. he was a slave owner. he is not. >> laura: okay. so we need to rename washington, d.c., correct? >> yes, i would do that. >> laura: okay, rename washington, d.c. >> that's not for me to determine. >> laura: no, we need to know, malcolm, where you are coming from. and we just established it, thank you very much. let's move on to thomas, thomas, time for you to talk on. white supremacy, we got it. thomas, what is your sense on this? >> well, laura, thank you for having me, first of all. i would like to say, i love the fact that malcolm wants to allow washington, d.c., to vote on the name of the capital. why didn't he allow us to have a vote in new orleans on the removal of the monuments? the mayor, the city council has decided for themselves on this issue -- >> laura: let him speak please