himself said, when he was challenged to take down the statues, mitch said, what are you talking about? i don't know what you mean. statues mean white supremacy? the reason that mitch did not understand that, a lot of folks in this city do not see the statues that way. >> laura: let's go back to malcolm. malcolm, malcolm, hold on. malcolm -- >> when these statues -- >> laura: malcolm, until the last, i don't know, two, three years -- i've come to new orleans on and off for the last two or three years. until the last, about two years, i hadn't heard anyone talk about the statues in charlottesville, in new orleans, in new york, i hadn't heard anyone until mostly outside agitators came in and said, guess what, history has to