have ancillary consequences that harm biden in the long run. i don t know. nunes, this administration and every republican in washington has to deal with the first question first, right? they have to address you are right, dave, you are 100% right whether it s 1964, barack obama or all of the thing. in each of those cases what was necessary? transparency. at the end when you screw up you have to go to transparency and that s what they should have done with lois learner and the i.r.s. and what they have to do now. they have to deal with this before they can move on to nunes s suggestion it s about the iowa eye caucuses. julie: they admit they went ahead and spoke to the ukrainian president. the question is if there is quid pro quo. i m about to lose my voice. did they do it for $250 million
exercise appears to have been about revealing the evidence in mule esrer s investigation to the very subject that have investigation donald trump. here to tep me understand what s going on, barbara boxer from california who hosts the fight back podcast, jim manley and fordham law professor jed sugarman. senator botcher, have you ever seen anything like what we saw today? no, and when i first heard about this partisan briefing from the fbi and the white house to nunes and gowdy, i put in a call to adam schiff because i was so stunned by it and left a message and said, please, please, we ve got to get in there. look, i served on the foreign relations committee for a long time. i think you know that. i was very senior when i left. and we have never, and i mean never ever had a briefing on a sensitive subject without both sides being there. you cannot do there to this
from the fbi and the white house to nunes and gowdy, i put in a call to adam schiff because i was so stunned by it and left a message and said, please, please, we ve got to get in there. look, i served on the foreign relations committee for a long time. i think you know that. i was very senior when i left. and we have never, and i mean never ever had a briefing on a sensitive subject without both sides being there. you cannot do there to this country. and you know, this was nothing caused spy gate. they can say spy gate all they want. this is really watergate two. this is another break-in. it s a break-in into the fbi files on an ongoing investigation by the very people that are the subject of the investigation. and i just want to say i don t know if devin nunes cares a wit what i think but he had better watch out because this looks to me like more obstruction?
does it like an activist himself meeting with the media. there are some huge problems with that anyone who looks at the addendum at the bottom and thinks they were transparent with that fisa judge isn t paying attention. the democratic national committee, along with hillary clinton s campaign paid for this and then you might put in i believe it s valid. and then the judge can make his own decision. but, until we see the fisa documents, it s all up to conjecture and posturing. rachel: where are these fisa judges? if i were a fisa judge and been provided this incomplete information, i would be angry. i don t understand the system enough, they are upset. steve: listen. it s all secret. we are probably never going to see you any of that stuff. to nunes point, it looks like the department of justice, when they have provided documents to members of congress and whatnot, they have redacted them so significantly, it does look like they are hiding some stuff. rachel: let s not forget former di
hide behind closed doors. and indeed the republicans have done the same thing when they took issue with steve bannon refusing to answer questions in closed session. so that s really what he s complaining about. he and his son, that s not a leak, but it is calling them on the carpet for refusing to answer very relevant questions that go to the issue of whether the president of the united states obstructed justice. all right, i have to say that i am confused this evening and i would like you to clarify. okay. last week, the committee voted on party lines to release the nunes memo and not the rebuttal memo. the nunes memo gets declassified and the president released. it comes out, lands largely with a thud, but not to folks like sean hannity and the president. now today they voted unanimously to release the democratic memo. why? what changed? well, what changed is i think a week of shaming, essentially. they tried to make the argument publicly that they were taking this extraordin